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A
New
flat
yeah
and
and
my
my
daughter,
like
the
auntie
and
her,
they
have
such
a
close
connection,
but
it
was
super
emotional
today.
B
A
A
Okay,
yes,
so
we
move
times
and
it
seems
to
work
for
the
for
the
hearty.
Can
one
says
in
in
german
that
the
hard
core
or
the
heart
cheats
so
and
yeah
we
have
the
survey
out
and
lydia
is
guessing
hello.
A
Oh
I'm
sorry.
I.
F
A
New
to
you
know,
reading
let's
try.
E
Oh
yeah,
I
yeah
I'm
going
through
something
similar
but
well
intentions.
I
would
like
to
sync
because
two
weeks
ago
I
wasn't
able
to
attend
the
the
meeting
and
it's
bi-weekly.
So
it's
part
of
an
effort
of
just
getting
a
better
awareness
of
of
what
happens
in
in
every
project,
so
yeah
just
up
sinking
as
a
general
intention
and
no
distractions
today,
I'll
pass
it
to.
E
B
Yeah
intention
to
sync
up
in
the
in
the
first
round
of
our
type
form,
see
how
we're
doing
and
how
we
can
spread
it.
More
and
distractions
are
not
not
distracted
right
now
and
pass
to
lady.
G
Yes,
hello,
maybe
similar
intentions,
like
all
of
you
like
trying
to
sync
up
here,
to
see
how
our
work
is
progressing
this
weekend
for
the
past
week.
I
think
we
have
make
some
improvements
and
some
progress
in
the
survey
as
well
and
and
to
see
how
this
is
going
and
in
general
to
yeah.
Do
you
to
get
getting
things
done
and
and
being
here
with
you
and
super
present
right
now,
with
all
of
you
and
I'll
pass
it
to
huanka.
C
Thanks
ladie
yeah,
my
intention
is
to
contribute
to
the
omega
working
group,
as
I
can,
and
my
distraction
is
that
I
am
promoting
the
event
we
are
hosting
from
in
ethereum
colombia
next
week.
So
like
I
am
just
like,
following
all
of
you
in
twitter,
from
the
columbia
account
and
like
promoting
the
the
event
and.
F
A
Yes,
intention
is
to
to
get
more
sorted
every
time
we
meet
it's
a
bit
difficult
with
this
group,
but
at
the
same
time,
yeah
I
look
forward.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
threats
coming
together
for
the
transdisciplinarity.
I
want
to
give
updates.
So
look
forward
to
that
and
distractions
is
like
my
ahead-
is
here
always
too
much
or
a
lot
to
do
that
I
enjoy
doing,
but
at
the
same
time
only
having
24
hours?
A
So
yes,
so
I
hope
you,
you
know,
how
do
you
call
it?
A
I
cut
me
some
slack
that
I'm
still
looking
up
to
our
agenda
and
probably
will
add
to
it
as
we
go,
but
yeah
I
mean
we
have
sent
out
the
survey,
and
maybe
you
know
what
can
we
do
or
how
many
have
already
responded
to
that
that
we
can
go
and
where
we
can
share
it
next
and
then
I'd
like
to
ask
you
or
us
how
we
go
about
this
manifesto
like
what
do
we
envision
to
to
have
after
a
couple
of
army
things,
we
will
have
a
workshop,
etc.
A
A
A
Is
about,
I
think,
last
time
or
the
time
before
we
already
discussed
that
it
would
be
good
to
have
this
knowledge
hub
of
you
know
a
that
we
get
one
person
who
knows
one
of
those
disciplines
are
active
and
is
also
active
in
token
engineering
and
kind
of
reach
out
to
them,
or
ourselves
also
start
creating
this
knowledge
hub
with
reading
lists
or
references
or
discipline.
So
these
are
just
three
things
that
you
know
I
knew
I
had
on
on.
My
just
hide
them.
B
Yeah
no,
I
wanted
to
add
to
the
point
you
you
brought
up
of
the
manifesto,
because
I
was
talking
to
tamara
today
about
how
some
working
groups
they
are.
They
are
needed
for
the
structure
of
the
tc
and,
and
some
working
groups
are
more
like
almost
something
like
the
tc
would
like
to
fund
as
a
project
type
of
thing,
and
I
feel
like
omega
is
kind
of
like
this,
something
that
it's
a
potential
like
funding
opportunity
for
that
the
tc
could
support
like
this
deeper
research
with
token
engineering.
B
A
Yeah
get
it
yeah
totally
agree,
because
I
think
also
like
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
do
uncover
as
a
research
and
probably
we
might
not
be
able
to
pull
it
off
just
among
us,
but
we
might
definitely
be
able
to
pull
it
together.
What's
and
and
in
coordinated
areas
and
describe
it
also.
G
Yeah
connected
with
this,
I
think
I'm
thinking
like
this
omega
group
is
like
putting
the
the
bases
or
like
the
fundamentals
in
in
place,
and
maybe
these
sleeves
are
these
research
or
funding
structure?
Is
it's
a
way
to
to
acknowledge
that
we
are
trying
to
to
accomplish
something
that
is
not
very
much
operational
in
the
structure?
Maybe,
but
it's
like
having
to
do
with
these
ethics
or
or
this
overseeing
role,
maybe
about
the
the
research
or
the
fundamentals
of
token
engineering
of
ethics
in
in
this
in
this
area.
G
A
And
basically,
okay,
and
also
does
it
also
go
towards
this?
You
know
keeping
a
pulse
on
in
the
community
saying
what
are
the
needs
like
when
we
we
decided
that
we
said
okay,
we're
going
to
have
two
services,
because
we
couldn't
finish
up,
you
know
or
put
all
the
questions
into
one
serving
said
there
will
be
a
a
second
round,
but
thinking
about
about
it,
actually
it's
quite
interesting
to
have
regular
surveys
within
the
community
to
see
because
it's
so
fast
moving
right.
A
If
I
just
think
about
where
we
were
just
a
year
ago,
no
defined
and
none
of
these
you
know,
learning
opportunities
existed
even
and
now
we're
here
so
and
then
one
year
later
will
be
completely
different
again.
So
if
we
had
these
community
surveys,
where
we
also
gather
qualitative
data
and
then
about
the
collision
of
the
community,
as
well
as
the
knowledge
and
exchange
knowledge
dissemination
potential
of
us
where
we
can
improve
at
that,
what
could
be
could
be
also
one.
G
Point
yeah
and
it
connects
very
much
with
the
transit
disciplinary
theme,
because
if
we
need
to
have
this
research
in
all
domains,
so
we
need
to
connect
with
lots
of
people
in
the
community
as
well
and
to
have
all
these
layers
like
addressed
so
maybe
having
the
community
inside
this
research
overseeing
ethical
fundamentals
for
the
for
the
domain
area.
It's
like
we're
interested,
maybe
to
put
that
into
the
manifesto
that
we
expect,
or
we
hope
to
be
something
more
of
an
overseeing
role,
integrating
all
these
aspects.
A
Okay,
cool
well,
very,
very
good,
very
good
lydia.
Do
you
have
a
name
or
also
juan
any
input
or
any
tips
about
to
manifest
to
them?
I
think
content-wise.
I
can
start
it
and
and
and
share.
I
think,
last
time
you
shared
the
manifesto.
A
I
have
the
link
of
the
manifested
template,
definitely
and
basically,
and
just
made
some
notes
from
what
you
all
said.
What
we
could
put
in
there
lydia
do
you
have
like.
Is
this
now
something
first
time
that's
happening
or
how
should
we
go
about
it
like?
Should
that
be,
and
then
a
proposal,
extra
proposal
or
would
the
manifesto
and
the
content
of
it
be
sufficient.
B
H
H
B
Okay,
good,
so
no
take
a
break.
No
sorry,
so
just
a
recap
of
if
we
should,
if
the
manifesto
is
enough
as
it
is
or
if
we
should
make
a
manifesto
and
a
proposal
is
that
it.
B
I
think
a
manifesto
would
be
nice
for
just
because
it
is
a
working
group
and
we
have
a
lot
of
processes
that
are
connected
to
this
format.
Already,
like
the
transparency
audit
and
all
of
them
are
kind
of
the
same
and
then
for
the
proposal.
We
could
it
wouldn't
be
that
much
work.
You
know
to
transfer
to
the
proposal
and
then
we
can
link
to
manifesto
and
just
be
a
little
bit
more
specific
about
like
what
we're
trying
to
achieve.
B
Maybe
the
proposal
links
to
just
one
or
two
milestones
off
the
off
the
manifesto
and
then
after
we
post
the
further
one.
A
Okay,
okay
and
there,
basically,
I
would
just
open
open
it
up
and
and
have
your
inputs
as
well,
but
I
think
from
what
we
can
propose
and
where
the
research
topics
are
like
this
knowledge
hub
and
the
recurring
community
survey.
A
And
basically
you
know
those
two
initiatives.
I
would
just
open
it
up
and
also
have
your
input
as
in
what
should
we
go
about?
First,
basically,
I
think
all
of
those
topics
are
somehow
in
in
in
the
vicinity
of
things
that
I'm
doing
so,
I'm
more
like
what
the
majority
of
the
group
things
should
be,
the
first
ones
we
can.
We
can
link.
So
I'm.
G
Yeah,
maybe
we
can
wait
for
some
results
from
the
survey
and
we
can
get
insights
from
that
and
to
see
okay.
This
is
most
interesting
for
a
lot
of
the
community
and
start
with
that
proposal
to
get
some
initiative
going
first,
maybe
something
that
is
bigger
for
the
community
more
important
or-
and
I
will
say
that
you're
raising
this,
I
think
it's
a
super
good
resource.
C
I
think
that
it's
a
great
idea
to
have
this
survey,
like
maybe
imagined
periodically,
so
that
we
can
have
like
a
baseline
and
see
like
the
effectivity
of
of
the
work
that
we
are
doing
and
I
wanted
to
ask
can.
Can
we
see
how
many
people
have
answered
the
the
type
form
right
now.
B
Can
you
spend
10
minutes
on
this
or
something
and
we
had
a
huge
drop
off
so
28
people
started
and
just
five
completed
it
and
we
had
50
views
and
there
was
a
huge
drop
off
even
in
the
first
message,
44
of
the
people
that
dropped
off
was
just
in
there
in
the
first
page,
like
hi.
There
token
engineer
so.
A
So
I'm
I'm
totally
lost
like
how
do
you
speak
yeah?
Let's,
let's
ask
for
for
some.
You
know
comm
communications
magic
in
there.
F
E
Just
then
like
an
idea,
just
straight
like
throw
it
out
as
praise
from
omega.
It's
like
hey
omega
is
like
praising
help
us
with
this,
like
you'll,
get
some
praise
just
like
straightforward,
just
say
it
like
that.
So
I
mean
it's
like
a
short
time
like
incentive,
but
it's
like
hey
you'd,
like
some
praise
like
give
us
some
minutes
and
check
this.
Just
let
me
know
whenever
you're
ready
and
we'll
praise
you
and
yeah
just.
E
A
Olivia,
please,
because
actually
I
would
I
you
know,
I
would
definitely
do
the
one
like
get
to
people
and
say
and
right
now
we're
reaching
out
quite
quite
a
lot
anyways
and
I
just
tell
them.
Take
10
minutes.
Do
the
survey
please
and
then
we
have
if
we
have
one
with
the
with
these.
You
know,
if
you
do
this,
you're
gonna
get
something
you
know,
and
this
is
this
whole
motivation
reward
thing.
That's
going
on.
A
And
yeah,
we
should
just
try
it
because
44
44
drop
off
is
quite
a
lot,
and
that
also
means
like
they
find
it
interesting
with
the
a
bit
visual.
Obviously
they
open
it
up,
but
then
one
thing
I
was
like
also
seven
minutes
is
a
lot.
F
A
A
G
So
I'm
just
maybe
suggesting
that,
because
we,
our
initial
role,
was
to
ascertain
how
the
how
the
domain
is
seen
in
terms
of
ethics
and
transdisciplinary
as
well
in
diversity
and
inclusion.
So
well.
This
is
like
thinking
out
out
loud.
Maybe
if
we
don't
achieve
this
in
terms
of
the
size
of
the
sample,
because
we
don't
have
this
inside
saying
in
a
good
format
or
something
like
that.
G
Maybe
we
can
try
to
research
this
in
a
more
qualitative
manner
and
try
to
yes
to
to
base
the
fundamentals
from
what
what
we
observe
instead
of
having
the
community
telling
us
everything,
so
it
may
be
decided
as
well.
If
we
are
trying
to
put
this
group
as
a
research
and
ethics
and
inclusion,
we
can
just
also
say
we
we
can
research
in
both
things
in
perspective
from
our
internal
values
or
our
internal
perspective.
G
So
maybe
we
can
do
that
as
well
like
trying
to
to
foster
this
in
in
this
qualitative
manner,
as
well,
not
only
the
quant
and
the
quant
survey
and
say:
okay,
we
we
aspire
to
be
in
this
kind
of
research
group,
and
we
can
put
this
in
in
this
context
as
well.
So,
of
course
we
want
the
the
sample
and
the
size
to
be
super
representative,
but
maybe
we
can
just
as
part
as
well
to
be
okay.
We
we
need
to
keep
this
going.
A
Yeah
yeah
personally,
definitely
like.
Personally,
I
think
I'd
really
just
like
to
see
see
some
answers
to
those
questions
and
the
second
thing
about
ethics
and
token
engineering.
I
think
that
is
exactly
the
type
of
research
project
that
we
can
actually
define,
because
that's
something
we
didn't
even
start
asking
right,
that's
one
thing
and
about
the
transdisciplinarity
again
we
could
say
this
is
something
we
want
to
foster
right.
A
We
see
that
that
is
there,
even
if
you
know
like
people
from
political
science
or
or
law,
you
know
don't
think
of
them
immediately
as
token
engineers
and
they
always
hear
the
the
engineers
talk
about
token
engineering,
but
we
still
want
to
actually
have
that.
How
do
you
call
it?
Have
that
perspective
that
all
of
these
kind
of
merges
or
and
plays
into
token
engineering
again
it's
an
aspirational
thing
more
than
that
we
say:
okay,
we're
just
asking
how
it
is
and
whatever
comes
back.
G
A
I
mean
if
we,
if
we
reach
out
to
them,
I
think
that
will
definitely
help
as
well
to
you
know
to
our
direct
contacts,
but
that,
with
the
praise,
just
changing
the
the
first,
what
do
you
call
it?
The
first
hello
message:
I
think
we
should
try
it
make
it.
What
did
you
say
cut
to
the
chase?
A
C
I
had
the
impression
that
maybe
that
first
slide
could
be
a
little
bit
shorter
in
the
text.
B
Yeah,
I
agree,
maybe
something
very
like
that
makes
the
person
feel
important
like
we
want
to
like
that,
you're
you're,
a
token
engineer,
it's
important
for
us
to
know
about
you
and
not
so
much
like.
B
A
Okay,
okay,
cool
and
then
basically
try
and
every
time
we
reach
out
or
or
realize
we're
talking
to
a
person
working
in
token
engineering
project.
We
just
think
about
giving
them
the
survey.
A
Okay,
manifesto,
sorry.
A
Yeah
and
basically
do
the
decoration
list.
I
still
have
in
my
mind
or
basically.
A
For
example,
I'm
thinking
what
is
the
best
format,
if
you
do
it
in
in
ocean,
for
example,
that
people-
I
guess
a
lot
of
people
can
can
handle
right.
It's
a
nice
editing
interface,
but
we
can
also
nicely
extract
it
to
a
github
as
a
markdown
document
for
for
them
for
any
repository.
You
might
want
to
share
it
with
later
on.
A
G
So
maybe
we,
if
we
think
about
this,
like
a
global
repository
like
starting
from
the
very
beginning,
something
like
it's
already
within
the
community,
because
I
I
guess
there
are
lots
of
resources
that
can
be
just
added
there
from
from
the
beginning
and
then
making
this
like
with
all
the
petals
I
like
to
to
bring
in
the
power-
and
I
don't
know
well,
if
the
format,
if
now
soon
it's
like
the
best
way
to
go,
I
I
would
say
maybe
start
with
a
format
that
is
very
easy
to
implement
at
the
very
beginning
and
to
spread
to
bring
in
all
the
resources
that
are
already
there,
and
I
may
be
thinking
in
the
medium
time
to
do
this,
like
a
registry
which
can
be
associated
to
the
super
global
community
and
made
this
like
more
decentralized
as
well
in
the
spirit
of
of
the
community
as
well.
G
So
starting
with
something
that
is
very
friendly,
that
is
very
accessible
to
your
ld
domains
and
then
thinking
maybe
about
registry.
That
is
like
vouchers
and
say
these
resources
are
the
one
that
that
you
can
trust.
Not
only
us
saying
that,
but
helping
the
the
other
people
just
vouching
for
this,
and
maybe
this
can
be
in
a
later
stage
to
have
this
more
brother,
because
we
cannot
start
with
a
super
big
registry
idea.
I
think
it's
not
a
weekly
yeah.
A
Yeah
there
is
a
proposal
from
sean
the
central
database,
basically,
and
I
think
it
was
one
of
the
first
where
he
just
thought.
It's
a
good
idea
to
always
have
have
a
database
of
our
knowledge
hub.
A
Okay,
that's
cool,
okay,
so,
basically
good
shall
we
try
and
divide
and
conquer
the
the
work
a
little
bit
in
a
sense
yeah.
I
think
starting
this
creation
list
with
the
with
the
petal
crypto
economics,
flower
and
the
different
disciplines
and
underneath
maybe
just
start
a
list
of.
B
G
I'm
super
interested
in
maybe
I
would
need
some
guidance
to
to
know
where
I
can
just
toward
the
resources
that
are
already
within
the
working
groups
in
the
coming
tr
to
march
this.
But
I
I
will
be
happy
to
liaise
with
this
yeah.
A
Yeah,
so
the
one
list
we
started,
there
is
one
on
the
token
engineering
community
github
do.
Does
anyone
else
know
any
any
reading
any
resources
list
that
have
been.
E
B
G
A
Or
maybe
just
continue
this
one
and
just
finding
is
glossary
reference
to
two
sources.
A
A
G
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
was
also
thinking
more
like
okay.
We
have
these
different
disciplines,
let's
say
games
theory
and
what
are
the
best
resources
for
for
a
token
project
to
start,
not
with
maybe
the
the
theory
of
game
theory.
A
But
what
is
the
most
practical
entry
point
and
then
some
reading
to
to
get
people
around,
and
hopefully
that
would
be
someone
who
is
from
game
theory
and
is
working
in
token
projects.
So
they
know
what
of
game
theory
everything.
What
of
that
is
especially
interesting
for
incentive
mechanism
design
so
that
type
of
reading
list
or
resource
list,
and
then
for
all
of.
A
Yeah
exactly
and
then
get
actually
find
people
like
every
one
of
us
could
say
hey.
I
can
help
with
this
or
just
start
that
and
then
reach
out
to
to
people
who
could
who
would
get
motivated
to
actually
take
a
lead
and
start
curating
this
these
resources
for
their
domain.
Basically,
and
with
the
background
that
it
should
be
useful
for
a
token
project
or
a
practitioner
who
needs
to
get
their
head
around
without
having
to
understand
all
or
without
having
to
have
this
deep
knowledge
that
the
domain
expert
has.
G
Yeah,
okay,
so
both
ways
as
well,
because
we're
investing
this
like
a
month
ago,
like
saying
we
need
this
subject
matter
as
part
of
you
to
follow
this
and
to
make
the
leads,
but
maybe
we
need
to
first
to
do
the
first
research
and
to
construct
a
basic
list
and
then
to
have
all
the
linkage
to
the
to
the
experts
so
yeah.
I
see
it
always
like.
If
we're
writing
this,
when
we
we
have
reached
to
them
right.
A
Okay
cool,
so
if
you
just
really
really
started
and
and
take
a
leap
there,
you
know
every
one
of
us
will
support,
definitely
and
then
also
with
sparring
like
how
which
way
to
go
about
it,
and
then
there
have
been
reading
lists.
Also,
I
can
see
and.
D
C
A
So
if,
if
you
can
basically
let
even
you
have
this
just
the
skeleton
of
this
document
when
you
share
that
and
if
you
then
can
add
to
that
list
directly,
I
know
you
have
already
started
sharing
in
the
chat.
Maybe
we
just
copy
paste
it,
but
if
you
then
also
can
can
lick
it
up,
link
it
up.
That
would
be
great.
A
What's
there
as
well
for
the
ecosystem,
value
flows
course,
we've
always
done
a
couple
of
reading
lists,
and
now
I'm
also
cleaning
it
up
one
more
so
there
will
be
again
light
weight
reading
into
into
some
of
the
areas.
I
can
also
share
that
list
as
soon
as
I
have
cleaned
it
up,
for
example,.
A
Maybe
it's
already
cleaned
up
for
anyways,
so
we
do
have
some
scattered
list
and
the
really
good
idea
to
start
and
then
cons,
fill
out
from
there.
Okay,
okay,
then
the
next
big
to
do
is
basically
the
the
manifesto
and
the
topics.
I
think
the
contents
that
we
have
already.
I
can
just
rewire
them
into
the
manifesto
template
that
livia
and
I
think,
one
already
shared
and
then
just
ask
for
your
for
your
input
and
maybe
also
mark
up
how
we
can
or
which
parts
we
can
formulate
into
a
proposal.
G
Can
you
repeat
again
sorry
yeah?
I
didn't
go,
I'm
saying
that
from
maybe
observing
what
is
going
on
in
the
in
the
groups
or
in
the
token
engineering
commons
in
url
and
libya
said
that
this
group,
maybe
is
not
so
much
focused
on
operational
or,
let's
say,
super
specific
day-to-day
things.
G
Maybe
we
need
some
kind
of
maybe
suggestions
or
proposal
or
saying
that
we
we
we
want
to
to
operate
in
a
neutral
way
to
oversee
the
processes
that
are
already
in
place,
because
maybe
we
have
I'm
not
super
knowledgeable
about
this
software
of
politics,
but
I
I
see
that
maybe
there
is
a
lack
for
for
overseeing
the
whole
process
in
a
way
to
say:
okay,
there
are
specific
things
you
can
do
in
the
community,
but
I
see
that
there
is
like
maybe
a
lack
of
general
coordination
to
say.
G
Okay,
these
processes
are
in
place,
but
maybe
when
they
are
in
place,
some
of
them
can
not
work.
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
place
for
a
sanction,
or
maybe
for
cyanides
or
for
a
stealership
of
of
the
general
reson
detroit
of
the
community.
Maybe-
and
I
maybe
see
this
group
as
some
group
that
can
do
that
in
a
way-
I
don't
it's-
this
is
not
very
clear
because
it's
difficult
to
put
into
words,
but
maybe
this
over
overseeing
community
or
overseeing
group
or
suggestions.
H
B
G
B
Is
you're
saying
that
some
of
the
processes
they
are
not
so
clear
from
from
a
bigger
perspective
of
like?
Are
you
wondering
if
there
is
anything
in
the
tc
that
oversees
everything
that
is
happening
simultaneously?
Is
that
it.
G
Yeah
in
a
way
like
that,
because
it's
fragmented
and
maybe
some
people
are
super
aware
of
what
is
happening
in
one
petal
in
one
domain,
but
maybe
you
use
it
from
the
bigger
picture.
Maybe
you
can
see?
Okay.
This
is
not
very
well
managing
in
this
specific
two
links
and-
and
I
see
that
maybe
there
is
need
for
that
overseen,
bigger
picture
bro,
but
I
don't
know
who
can
check
around
because
it's
like
yeah.
B
Yeah,
I
think
there
might
be
like
two
layers
of
it.
One
one
of
them
is
the
the
community
stewards
working
group
that
is
somehow
over
has
a
general
view
of
everything
that
is
going
on
and
gets
together
to
coordinate
on,
like
we've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
a
fractal,
this
position
of
things
to
to
scale
horizontally.
B
So
how
can
we
scale
and
then
one
person
doesn't
have
the
knowledge
of
everything
that
is
happening,
but
we
have
those
clusters
that
this
person
communicates
with
this
person
that
communicate.
So
everything
is
interconnected,
even
though
it's
very
hard
for
because
of
the
complexity
for
one
person
to
like,
have
it
all.
B
But
maybe
there
is
another
layer
that
is
overseeing
te
as
a
whole
and
not
the
tc,
and
I
think
sometimes
this
gets
confusing
because
overseeing
tec
now
we're
pretty
much
talking
about
the
structure,
the
foundation
and
then
overseeing
te
is
basically
impossible
now,
because
it's
like
this
complexity
like
over
multiplied.
G
Yeah
completely
because
I
it
gets
to
the
complexity
of
this
fractalized
governance
system
and,
if
you
add
what
like,
we
have
list
like
these
two
layers,
that
is
the
tc
and
then
t.
I
see
that
it
has
to
be
organic,
but
at
the
same
way
you
need
to
have
these
fundamentals,
and
maybe
like
the
manifesto
of
this
research,
has
to
to
put
into
place
that
this
is
a
complex
thing.
G
But
you
have
to
to
think
out
this
in
with
first
principles
and
to
yeah-
and
maybe
I
don't
want
to
see
like
this-
is
preemptive
measures
and
but
yeah.
Maybe
it's
needed
some
kind
of
this
yeah
of
understanding
of
the
awareness
of
this
complexity,
which
is
gonna
be
bigger
as
far
as
we
continue
grow
growing
in
in
both
communities
and
indeed
several
governance
levels
yeah.
It
goes
to
that
completely.
A
I
think
at
some
point,
maybe
it
will
be
more
like
you
know,
going
further
and
then
coming
close
again
then
going
further
again
and
it's
something
like
one
thing
is
really
the
complexity
of
the
field
and
because
it's
emerging
and
it's
diverse
people
coming
together-
and
you
know
digital
infrastructures,
utility
infrastructures
we're
talking
about.
So
I
think
this
group
should
focus
at
first
on
on
capturing.
A
That
complexity,
there
is
a
word
for
it
like
requisite
complexity
or
something,
but
I
guess
once
once
we
have
the
the
rhythm
once
we
have,
for
example,
gone
through
getting
this
manifesto
together,
getting
the
community
survey
answers
and
actually
getting
you
know.
Feedback
from
community
and
community
members
are
dropping
regularly,
and
you
know
token
engineers
making
time
to
actually
learn
about
ethics
and
token
entering
and
they
care
about
the
diversity
of
it,
etc.
A
I
would
like
to
you
know,
get
that
first
and
cultivate
that
that
first
or
that's
the
challenge,
for
example,
wherever
I
say
when
we
have
that,
then
all
of
a
sudden
things
become
clearer
like
what
is
it
that
you
know?
What
are
the
activities
we
started
top
lanes
during
commons
because
we
wanted
to
create,
have
that
commons
resource
to
be
able
to
fund
things
of
importance
to
the
community
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
then
like?
What
is
this
community?
A
And
we
find
you
know
original
thinking
of
trend
from
the
2018s.
But
what
happened
in
the
last
three
years?
And
we
have
also
community
fluctuation
and
what
we
think
what
it
is
we're
doing,
and
it
is
very
much
influenced
by
the
market.
A
So
in
a
in
a
sense
right
and
then
literally
when
the
when
we
don't
have
the
bull
market,
we
have
people
coming
in
and
really
interested
and
have
time
or
more
time
to
actually
learn
and
there's
this
interesting
cycle.
That
is
already
apparent
after
two
years.
For
example,
you
know
market
pool,
everyone
is
doing
stuff
and
then
bear
markets.
You
know
and
people
are
still
in
it
and
they
start
and
take
the
time
to
actually
learn
and-
and
you
know,
build
their
muscles
so
that
the
next
time.
G
G
G
Also
it's
more
like
economics
research
in
the
in,
in
the
end,
how
this
market
interacts
with
with
the
communities
which
are
working
with
their
time
and
if
we
foster
these
ethics.
For
this
research
question
is
something
that
is
super
interactive
in
in
a
way
right.
A
Yeah
yeah
and
then
there
are
now
more
of
the
regenerative
communities.
A
Permaculture
communities,
ub
community
currency,
like
these
two
topics,
which
are
you
know,
as
old
as
humanity,
almost
and
really
coming
in
and
asking
for
what
token
engineering
could
do
for
for
those
communities
to
get
off
the
ground
or
for
those
concepts
to
finally
fly
so
they
are.
A
They
are
quite
interesting
makeup
or
or
patterns.
We
see
in
the
community
and
basically-
and
I
think
we
have
the
right
background
and
also
the
motivation
to
actually
sort
that
out
figure
that
out
as
we
find
time
but
again
that
information
yeah
as
libya
also
says.
It's
also
super
interesting
to
have
as
input
into
token
engineering
comments
and
so
on,
but
token
answering
comments
to
make
it
operational
to
make
it
run.
A
A
You
know
how
they
call
it
very
structured,
outputs
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
and
then,
basically,
who
is
overseeing
or
how
is
that
governance
structure
then
really
embedded.
It's
also
clarified
or
becoming
more
clear.
Now,
right,
libya,
at
least
the
legal
side,
is
somehow
definitely
written
up
and
all.
B
Yeah
yeah,
the
governance
has
been,
I
mean
I
think
it
took
it's
experimental.
You
know
I
was.
I
was
very
like
I've
been
I've
been
feeling
a
little,
not
disappointed,
but
but
puzzled
with
how,
with
all
the
governance
tools
we
have
and
and
with
the
it
feels
like,
we
are
running
in
a
pace
that
doesn't
match
the
tools
we
have
available
like
this.
This
thing
that
everyone
is
too
busy
for
everything
is
getting
really
like
over.
A
B
Though
it
almost
makes
me
want
to
cry
is
something
that
it
feels
like
it
has.
No
solution,
like
I
feel
nervous
talking
about
it
is,
is
how
many
things
we're
asking
from
people
that
already
have
no
time
to
like
a
dinner
with
their
family.
You
know
like.
Oh,
let
me
let
me
put
an
hour
on
like
mission,
vision
and
values
like
who
cares
it's
getting
to
this
point.
You
know
of
like
how
sorry
I'm
just
ranting,
and
this
is
being.
B
The
moment
that
we
need
to
bring
our
priorities
to
things
that
we
really
want
to
see
evolving.
So
what
is
the
best
way
to
engage
with
people
in
this
sense?
Is
it
through
a
voting
session,
or
is
it
through
a
call
that
we
can
gather
the
information
from
there
or
is
it
like?
What
are
the
possibilities
we
have?
Is
there
something
we're
not
seeing
in
terms
of
governance
tools?
B
G
It
totally
feels
your
pain,
like
you're,
just
renting
this,
because
of
something
that
is
important,
and
this
goes
to
the
previous
thing
we
were
discussing
like
this-
is
such
a
complexity
already
and
within
a
streamlined
resources
and
the
processes
and
the
governance
in
our
lives
and
the
way
we
respond
to
these
organizations,
which
are
quite
new,
but
I
still
we
can
just
bring
in
all
the
complexity
which
is
in
the
other
systems,
and
maybe
we
don't
want
to
do
that
like
building
something
new,
but
still
putting
on
more
problems
that
or
the
same
things
that
have
been
hurdles
in
our
lives
so
yeah.
G
This
is
like
eating
streamlining
things
and
and
matching
resources
with
time
and
also
with
the
with
our
objectives,
because,
like
not,
we
are
yes.
I
think
this
is
not
very
fair
trust
for
for
for
the
bigger
community
or
for
ourselves.
So
that's
more
important
as
well.
A
Okay,
I
take
this
with
me
because
I
I
really
really
enjoy
this
in
a
sense
that
be,
first
of
all,
also
what
you
need
is
mutual
support.
A
You
know,
like
you,
have
the
space
to
to
say,
as
it
is
currently
I'm
in
one:
the
invisible
economy,
data,
they're,
doing
a
governance
experiment,
it's
the
data
experiment,
you
know
it's
like
no
rules,
number
one
rule
is
there
are
no
rules
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
so
it's
very
fluid
only
the
liberation
and
so
on
and
so
forth
and
no
voting
and,
on
the
other
hand,
there's.
You
know
token
answering
comments
with
the
token
log.
A
There
was
a
vision,
mission
and
values
vote
and
I
was
literally
like
okay
things
to
do
and
then
and
then
I'm
like.
Okay,
I
was
there
in
the
beginning,
and
I
said
that
was
okay
and
now
basically
people
are
going
to
vote.
Okay.
Maybe
if
there
is,
you
know,
I
really
had
to
look
at
all
of
the
things
that
need
to
be
done
and
literally
choose.
But
how
do
you
choose
or
or
what
do
you
like-
the
purpose?
A
Why
we're
in
this
that
we
need
to
really
just
ask
and
then
come
down
to
that
and
then
just
ask
okay,
that
thing
that
we
have
on
our
hands
right
now
with
the
tools
that
we
have.
Are
we
still
in
the
right
direction?
A
If
that
is
a
yes
and
the
purpose
is
still
gets
the
art
in
the
morning,
that's
as
good
as
it
gets
right
and
then
basically
second,
and
then
what
needs
to
change.
So
I
feel
you
know
more
motivated
and
more
helped
and
and
less
disturbed
by
by
madness
and
literally
the
the
tooling.
A
It's
amazing
that
so
many
things
that
could
be
automated
getting
people
together,
scheduling
things
that
take
four
to
fifty
percent
of
our
times
that
you
know
we
should
really
just
put
the
requirements
list
and
put
money
in
there
and
then
get
that
forty
percent
freed
up,
for
example,
and
that's
basically
something
that's
also
coming
up
in
all
of
those
groups
right
and
then.
A
Yeah,
so
how
about
that?
How
about
that
like
what?
If
we
could
get
that
out
there
literally
a
specification
that
would
make.
A
Governance,
information
gathering
easier,
you
know
not
a
tool
for
voting
or
whatever,
but
literally
the
things
that
you
know
olivia
you
have
been
doing
for
over
a
year.
I
know
that
bea
and
the
others
were
doing
in
the
invisible
economy.
A
They
are
all
always
the
same
things
and
they
eat
up,
like
40-50
percent
of
the
time,
to
actually
get
people
together
to
and
get
them
on
board
and
get
them
up
to
date,
so
that
one
can
have
actually
a
space
for
discussing
what
needs
to
be
discussed,
or
you
know
laying
out.
A
Thursdays
are
unfortunate
at
the
same
time.
Is
our
tech
community
call,
but
there's
the
crypto
art
session.
A
Thursdays
and
fridays
are
the
system
modeling,
but
again
like?
Maybe
it's
also
something
that
we
can
just
organize
in
one
of
those
one
of
these
sessions
that
we
have
here
that
we
say
yeah
like
like
a
brain
dump
of
what
would
make
our
lives
easier
in
bringing
to
you
know,
yeah,
you
know
what
what
what
are
the
actions
that
we
had
to
do
over
and
over,
but
take
up
so
much
time
and
what?
Why
do
we
feel
or
where
do
we
feel
ineffective
due
to
what
and
what
can
be
improved?
A
G
And
it's
gonna
be
an
opening,
so
we
can
just
make
a
list,
but
it's
gonna
be
something
that
is
gonna,
be
up
in
every
process.
So
yeah
it's
it's
kind
of
overlapping
everything,
so
yeah.
A
Okay,
so
I'm
I'm
adding
that
I'm
adding
that
and
try
to
connect
some
of
those
threads
but
you're,
not
alone
livia,
hey,
look
at
us
join.
We
were
just
about
to
to
close
it
out.