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A
Being
more
open,
even
more
inclusive
and
and
showing
basically
to
our
maybe
more
academia.
B
Well,
I
was
just
saying
to
darker
and
mount
money
that
I've
been
to
an
omega
call
in
a
while,
because
sometimes
it
can
be
a
little
bit
over
my
head,
but
I
I
don't
know
I'm
just
gonna
keep
like
calming.
I
guess
from
now
on
to
to
learn
more
because
that's
like
that's
how
I
will
learn.
I
guess
should
I
be
like
interrupting
someone's
talking.
If
I
there's
something
I
don't
understand
or.
A
Yes,
I
mean
in
in
any
case,
please
do
yeah
give
a
signal,
because
I
guess
it's
really
it's
important
to
all
of
us
and
to
to
make
this
really
not
just
about
engineers
perspective,
but
more
holistic
and
participation
and
token
engineering
or
token
economies,
I'm
making
that
thinking
about
or
working
out
the
ethics
of
that.
So
please
do.
B
Okay,
and
so
before,
when
I
joined
an
omega
call,
it
was
kind
of
just
like
talking
about
something
that
happened
in
the
crypto
space.
I
guess
and
then
just
like
people
sharing
their
opinions
on
it.
What
will
be
the
focus
on
the
talk
today,
or
is
it
just
a
continuation
of
a
past
conversation.
A
So
I
made
I
put
the
topics
together
in
the
in
the
agenda
for
for
today,
at
the
very
least-
and
I
try
to
be
more
consistent
on
that-
I
don't
know
if
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it,
everyone,
but
I'll
share
it
again
and
in
the
group,
if
you
like
and
oh
yeah,
so
basically
you
know
we
have
these
two
two
initiatives
worked
out.
One
is
really
figuring
out
we're
talking
about
ethical
engineering,
but
what
is
the
ethics?
And
what
is
the
ethos?
A
A
The
sources
that
have
enriched
their
understanding
of
token
engineering,
maybe
because
it's
their
background
or
maybe
because
it
was
something
completely
new
to
them,
but
they
grew
into
it.
They
learned
because
of
talking
engineering.
So
these
are
the
two.
I
guess
rather
practical
things
right.
A
And
yeah,
and
basically
one
of
one
of
the
top
or
token
engineering
ethics
topic
is
the
one
I
would
actually,
if
you
have
time
or
basically
that
would
be
the
thing
I
would
love
to
discuss
today.
A
How
are
we
going
to
operationalize
that
you
know
what
is
it
going
to
be?
Is
it
going
to
be
this
exchange
people
coming
in
and
exchanging
about
yeah,
their
ethical
concerns
or
dilemmas
that
they're
in
and
or
basically
the
the
evolving
domain
of
it,
or
are
we
just
going
to
be
fine
by
saying
okay,
these
are
the
the
ethical
principles
we,
you
know
we
figure
them
out
by
exchanging
together
in
focus
groups
and
in
the
omega
working
group.
You
wrote
it
up.
A
You
can
read
it
in
and
token
engineering
git
book,
that's
it
right,
so
that
that
is,
for
example,
one
one
topic
of
today.
How
do
we
capture
those
principles
and
once
captured?
B
Maybe,
instead
of
oh,
no
I'm
getting
an
echoes
from
mount
money.
Sorry,
let
me
just
oh
okay
there!
Thank
you.
I
wonder
if,
instead
of
just
sharing
them
on
the
chat,
we
we
can
start
like
a
google
drive
categorize,
I
guess
yeah
google
drive
where
the
content
can
start
getting
categorized
and
then
and
then
people
will
link
to
that
google
drive
and
discuss
on
the
chat,
because
then
at
least
the
links
are
getting
collected
and
aren't
just
getting
lost
in
the
discord
history.
C
I
have
I
have
something
to
add
regarding
that
from
yesterday's
robinson
session
that
I
hosted
regarding
the
psychology
of
leadership.
There
are
a
couple
of
chapters
that
deal
with
the
the
the
ethical
dilemmas
and
in
leadership,
and
I
think
I
think
leadership
is
a
good
on
ramp
onto
leadership.
I
mean
on
to
onto
ethics,
like
the
the
the
concepts
of
leadership
within
organizations
specifically
within
daos
can
be
a
way
in
which
we
people
can
start
getting
interested
in
in
ethics
and
how
it's
practically
applied.
C
It's
very
interesting
that
I
mean
power
creates
moral
dilemmas,
but
the
the
fundamental
the
fundamental
ethical
dilemma
in
in
leadership
is
that,
if
you
want
to
accomplish
something
great,
you
are
never
going
to
be
able
to
create
just
benefits
for
everyone,
so
that
that's
something
that
has
to
be
addressed
right.
There
are
going
to
be
winners
and
losers,
and
there
has
to
be
a
compromise.
C
So
I
mean
that's
practical:
that's
real
life,
not
just
like
textbook
ethics,
and
I
think
it
could
be
a
way
for
ethics
to
start
getting
into
the
conversation
and
not
just
something
that
has
to
be
covered
for
optics.
You
know,
I
certainly
don't
see
it
as
that,
but
I
think
that's
like
I
feel
like
that's
what
what
it
feels
like
in
in
the
culture.
Certainly
that
was
the
case
when
I
was
taking
ethic
classes
in
school,
but
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
to
bring
that
out.
C
I
think
you
know
the
the
using
leadership
as
a
segue
into
ethics,
practical
everyone.
C
That-
and
we
could-
I
mean
I
I'd-
be
happy
to
do
a
presentation
on
that
or
or
something
that
would
help
towards
that
towards
that
notion.
Besides
the
capability
approach,
one
of
course.
C
A
Go
ahead
and
while
durga
does
is
pulling
up
the
graphics
just
wanted
to
add.
That's
exactly
the
point
right
I
mean
in
the
olden
world.
Leadership
is
taken
by
one
person
right
and
the
rest
is
following
and
in
these
decentralized
participatory
networks,
what
we
want
is
actually
everyone
doing
their
own
research
and
that's
a
call
for
participation
right
and
that's
the
call
for
taking
leadership
taking
responsibility.
D
A
Accountable
as
a
participant,
and
if
you
say
something
that
others
don't
see
you
it's
your
responsibility
and
and
the
economy,
the
token
economy
needs
you
to
actually
bring
that
forth
and
there
should
be
processes
that
actually
make
each
voice
or
that
signaling,
visible
and
so
on.
So
yeah
totally
agree,
and
I
guess
what
we're
seeing
is
that
leadership
isn't
just
reserved
to
the
leader,
but
it's
being
distributed
among
all
participants
and
that's
why
we're
looking
into
all
of
these
decision
making
frameworks
yeah
and
here
we
are
look
at
us.
E
Okay,
so
I
found
this
beautiful
graphic.
This
is
not
something
that
I
created,
but
I
think
it's
really
nice
in
terms
of
so
in
terms
of
leadership
right
there's,
a
kind
of
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
like
the
top
versus
the
bottom,
you
are
doing
and
they're
doing
right.
So
there's
a
kind
of
continuum
there
and
then
the
thing
is
is
that
as
a
leader
you
are
doing
in
the
name
of
of.
D
E
In
in
many
in
many
ways
right,
so
there
could
be
something
that
you're
doing
sort
of
personally
you
know
so
in
the
case
of
you
know,
somebody
who's,
just
you
know
using
his
leadership
thing
like
harvey
weinstein.
As
a
kind
of
you
know,
that's
something
he's
doing
that.
Just
he's
using
his
position
to
sort
of
get
that
done,
but
a
real
leader
really
would
do
something
as
though
you
know
they
were
doing
it.
E
For
you
know
the
overall
group,
and
so
I
think,
consent
is
important
and
I
think,
in
terms
of
leadership,
we
often
take
leadership
to
mean
that
we
are
going
to
serve
take
except
allow
certain
kinds
of
things
to
occur
outside
of
the
consent
right,
and
I
don't
think
that's,
okay
in
a
decentralized
sort
of
situation
right.
E
That's
part
of
the
reason
why
we
do
all
these
things
like
we
have
params
parties,
we're
like
okay,
you
get
to
design
your
economy
because
part
of
your
and
even
before,
consent.
There
has
to
be
all
this
all
this
education
that
takes
place
right,
and
so
my
participation
is
sort
of
in
a
meta
way
to
try
to
make
sure
that
people
who
are
being
leaderful
and
the
individuals
participating
in
this
system
kind
of
understand
the
context
in
which
they're
operating,
and
so
I
think
you
know
I've
said
this
a
bunch
of
times.
E
You
know
what
what
a
an
organization
or
a
culture
educates
is
what
it
becomes,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
we
need
to
consider
consent
in
terms
of
of
this
as
well.
So
that's
so
what
I'm
talking
about
ethics
in
my
own
work?
I
often
refer
to
this
thing
because
you
know
it's
it's
like
there's
some
quadrants
here
and
so
I'd
be
interested
to
see.
If
anybody
you
know,
has
any
feedback
for
me
about
how
this
might
frame
ethics
that
we've
already
talked
about.
E
Well,
I
guess
you
know
if
you're
a
leader
you're,
often
taking
first
of
all
like
manu,
was
saying,
there's
a
kind
of
directionality
to
that
you.
A
E
E
People
might
follow
you
right,
and
so
so
I
think
to
make
sure
that
a
leader
understands
that
there
are
these
different
aspects
that
that
happen
is
just
very
important.
A
E
A
You
know
these
graphics
are
so
deep,
which
should
really
take
a
take,
or
let
me
ask
back
to
to
manu
how
do
you
relate
this
graphic
to
what
you
brought
to
the
table
with
respect
to
leadership
and
what
you
shared
and
the
graviton
working
group
already.
A
A
Yeah,
exactly
and
inside
where
it
seems
really
is
a
give
and
take
it's
always
both
sides.
Always
the
tango
basically
definitely
resonates
with
what
systems
you
want
to
be
part
of
right.
C
Yeah
the
the
to
relate
this,
I
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
go
over
it
because
it
was
towards
the
end,
but
the
it
is
they're.
Definitely
like
complimentary
and
the
what's
outside
the
consent
is
there's
a
chapter
on
the
pathology
of
of
leadership.
C
So
like
yeah
managers
that
get
like
self-absorbed
like
door,
guys
give
a
great
example
weinstein,
and,
and
so
they
they
do,
go
go
into
that
and-
and
you
know,
give
suggestions
on
how
to
avoid
that.
If
your
manager
and
like
the
steps,
ideally
a
manager,
a
good
manager
follows
and
and
so
yeah
that
the
two
are
are
yeah
they're
in
the
same
they're
in
the
same
page.
So
to.
E
Speak,
I
can
see
I'm
looking
at
this.
The
section
down
here,
that's
sort
of
south,
of
your
your
section
on
the
psychopathology
of
of
power,
psychopathology
and
power.
You
know
yeah
so.
C
D
C
Little
bit
of
that,
but
I
don't
I
it
was
more
philosophically,
but
I
think
we're
at
a
point
where
we
need
to
because
if
we
don't,
we
we
allow
externalities
to
act
implicitly
and
and
so
not.
We
cannot
allow
that
anymore
running
out
of
time.
A
Actually,
st
to
accept,
sociopaths
or
like
it
is
an
accepted
knowledge,
be
it
capitalism,
corporatism
or
corporatocracy.
However,
we
may
want
to
call
it,
but
it's
literally,
oh
you
as
a
ceo,
you
have
to
be
a
psychopath.
A
Because
you
are
forced
to
actually
defend
the
system
that
you
know,
dishes
out
externalities
to
actually
make
a
profit
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
this
definitely
resonates
and
just
to
sum
up
what
for
me,
you
know
why
it
resonated
so
much
is
or
how
it
relates
to
ethics
inside.
D
A
The
content
right
that
that
seems
to
be
the
the
ethical
code
of
conduct.
However,
you
collaborate
with
anyone
in
any
circumstance.
It's
you
know
you
serve,
but
the
other
side
is
allow
you
give
the
other
side
is
actually
receiving,
and
so
on
and
yeah.
E
So,
to
go
back
to.
E
Points
I
uploaded
the
thing
to
the
that
graphic
to
the
omega
group
and
then
also
I
posted
the
second
movie
link.
It's
called
the
new
corporation.
Their
original
movie
was
called
the
corporation
and
actually.
E
C
Mean
leadership
yeah
that
approach
honestly,
it's
it's
so
like
it
can
be,
it's
so
all-encompassing
in
a
way
it
it's
it.
It
really
boils
down
to
the
math
like
okay.
How
do
how
do
we
and
it's
the
same
thing?
I
I
think
this
is
where
omega
meets
the
reward
system
task
force
and
and
that's
where
we
try
to.
We
try
to
quantify
qualitative
aspects.
C
The
community
approach
deals
with
okay
freedom,
right
freedom
to
to
freedom,
to
pursue
something
and
and
and
to
actually
have
the
opportunity
to
to
fulfill
that
that
that
pursuit
right,
that
the
pursuit
of
happiness
is
it's
on
the
constitution.
But
what,
if
you
don't
have
access
to
credit
like?
How
are
you
going
to
pursue
your
app?
C
If
you
don't
have
any
access
to
credit,
you
you
can't
you
don't
have
a
diploma,
you
don't
have
any
any
skills
like
you,
you
were
just
dealt
the
bad
card,
and
so
so
yeah
I
mean
it's.
It's
really
about
honing
down
the
scope
and
yeah
like
connecting
with
the
reward
system
and
seeing
how
how
the
capability
approach
can
be
can
be
applied
and
and
start.
You
know
doing
something
with
them.
A
That's
super
interesting,
and
I
I
guess
we,
let's,
let's
reserve
one
one
session,
just
just
for
that.
I
would
say
just
this
topic
like
how
do
you
you
can
contribute
right,
but
whether
this
contribution
is
of
value,
you
know
you
can
autonomously
be
intrinsically
motivated,
but
if
your
gift
basically
will
be
received
and
is
in
need
or
is
needed
by
the
community
and
so
on
so
all
of
these
sites
and
then
whether
that's
then
becomes
a
really
valuable
contribution
now
or
maybe
you
contribute
now,
but
months
later,
people
actually
see
the
value
of
it.
A
A
These
are
the
things
that
resonate
when
you
or
how
that
seems
to
connect
to
some
things
like
rewards
systems,
but
in
general
also
you
know
the
code
of
collaboration
or
the
code
of
contribution.
You
know
you
can
contribute
by
yourself
and
your
contribution
might
just
fulfill
you
and
be
the
reward
in
and
on
itself,
but
whether
that
then
becomes
a
useful
contribution
to
community
and
becomes
helps
in
progress
that
at
least
needs
and
so
on.
So
and
then
again
coming
back
to
the
capability
right.
A
C
Else,
sorry,
I
I
I
want
to
bring
to
the
table
the
fact
that
it's
fairly
easy
to
lie
with
this
statistics
by
just
controlling
the
sample
space
or
where
you
pick
it
from
and
that's
that's
an
ethical
matter
in
itself.
I
don't
know
how:
how
can
we
go
on
about
creating
some
sort
of.
C
Knowledge
of
of
because
I
mean
we,
we
we
gravitate
towards
statistics
and,
and
just
you
know,
graphs
and
having
having
that
type
of
quantified
notion,
but
we
don't
ask
like
how
the
sausage
made
in
that
sense.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
can
be
tied
into
some
other
topics,
but
I
think
I
think
it's
relevant
because
I
mean
they
they
they
are
used
to
justify.
C
Now,
with
the
with
the
current
crisis
right,
a
lot
of
statistics
went
around
both
ways
pro
and
against
everything
you
know:
vaccines
or
staying
in
down
whatever
it.
D
C
A
C
C
It's
a
public
good,
because
critical
thinking
ought
to
be.
You
know
there.
There
ought
to
be
like
like
a
a
ground
for
for
critical
thinking
to
develop
and
without
the
right,
unbiased
statistic.
If
there's
such
a
thing,
that
cannot
happen,
but
just
something
else.
Maybe
something
else
is
important
to
play
into
account
at
least
minimally.
A
There
is
a
german
saying,
I
don't
know
if
you,
if
it's
also
known
but
never
trusted,
statistics
that
you
didn't
fake
yourself.
I
just
edited,
as
you
didn't
compile
yourself,
but
in
the
sense
that
goes
back
to
you
know
if
you,
if
you
would
so,
the
ethical
aspect
of
you
know
compiling
data,
making
sure
that
the
statistics
then
actually
are
trustworthy
and
not
skewed,
definitely
a
thing
of
ethical
concern
or
it's
the
underlying
of
ethical,
ethical,
ai
for
example.
So
definitely
we
added
this
onto
the
the
big
topic
list.
Basically,.
E
Position
in
terms
of
being
consistent
and
persistent,
so
if
I,
with
my
name,
you
know
associated
with
this
thing,
show
up
with
the
same
message
each
time
then
pretty
soon
people
are
going
to
go.
Okay,
I
get
it.
This
is
a
person
who's
being
transparent,
and
it's
going
to
understand
what's
going
on,
and
I
I
think
just
showing
up
is
often
a
big
thing
too
right
too.
E
So
I
think
there's
another
graphic
that
I
really
like
that.
I
showed
in
one
of
the
gravity
things
that
it's.
D
A
D
E
E
Yeah,
it's
not
just
that
that
the
thing
in
and
of
itself
is
ethical
or
not
ethical.
It's
that
the
person
and
their
approach
and
what
they're
saying
and
you
know
everything
is.
A
I
I
just
to
this
happens
in
an
omega
working
group
and
I
personally
say
that
I
enjoy
it,
but
if
people
you
know
that
it
seems
like
they're
going
off
on
attention,
but.
A
No,
no,
but
I
believe
you're,
basically,
you
know
coming
up
with
missing
puzzle
pieces
so,
and
this
one,
in
my
view
would
be
just
put
on
the
table,
is
definitely
one
that
is
contribution,
collaboration,
consistency,
your
freedom,
but
also
your
capabilities
that
maybe
create
freedom
or
legitimize
that
that
freedom
right,
the
autonomy
and
the
health
interdependence
you
know
in
the
individual
and
collective.
So
these
are
all
recurring
topics,
and
this
one
definitely
is
one
topic.
A
E
See
the
reason
why
I
say
that
is:
is
I'm
showing
up
all
the
time
to
serve?
So,
let's
look
right
at
this.
You
were
doing
thing
right,
so
I'm
showing
up
all
the
time
saying
I'm
taking
an
action
to
benefit
somebody
else,
but
there
they
may
require
20
other
things
to
hear
from
me
before
they
can
then
accept
it.
E
You
see
what
I'm
saying
so
in
a
similar
way
like
I
have
no
flip
and
clue
what's
going
on
in
most
of
the
other
rest
of
the
token
engineering
commons,
my
job
is
to
care
about
the
individual
people
who
are
here
and
some
you
know,
provide
some
context
to
the
efforts
that
they're
making.
That's
my
that's
my
bag.
E
That's
what
I
do
so
so
the
the
fact
is
that
I
have
to
show
up
and
be
clear
and
consistent
and
precise
and
and
be
able
to
adapt
and
that's
what
I'm
doing
on
the
you
know
in
order
for
them,
then
to
accept
it
at
the
same
time.
At
the
same
time,
if
I
showed
up
here
saying
I'm
martyring
myself
and
no
one's
listening
to
me
and
oh
my
god,
you
know
what
I'm
saying
like.
If
I
did
that
you
see
what
I'm
saying.
A
E
A
So
no
perfect
yeah.
D
There's
something
that
I
wanted
to
say
because
it
has
been
in
my
mind
but
yeah
it
can
be
maybe
a
tangent
a
little
bit,
but
I
will
try
to
keep
it
close
to
what
we're
talking
about
and
instead
I
think
that
one
of
the
most
unethical
things
right
now
is
politics.
D
Like
yeah
like
we,
we
are
having
this
technology,
that
is
an
economy,
and
it
can
be
seen
from
an
economic
point
of
view.
But
the
reality
is
that
these
economies
that
we
are
building
can
subvert
and-
and
I
liked
that
narrative
from
the
the
omega
chat
can
subvert
the
things
that
that
that
we
live
in
now,
and
I
think
that
would
be
like
a
very
ethical
approach
on
on
the
practice
that
we
can
also
have
in
in
in
our
loop.
D
I'm
talking
about
this,
because
I
I
loved
on
the
crypto
cities,
article
that
that
vitalik
wrote
and
I
think,
like
yeah.
The
the
most
ethical
thing
we
can
do
to
the
world
is.
D
A
An
intention
bring
the
the
the
intention
of
it
right.
We
say
all
politics
has
gone,
you
know
gone
to
and
and
then
just
say:
okay,
we
don't
want
to
have
politics,
but
that's
we
are
human,
social,
political
organism
and
this
whole
dark
space
or
decentralized.
Decentralization,
obviously
is
political
right,
so
that
resonated
a
lot
as
well
and
the
way
you
put
it
when
I
try
to
connect
it
back
to
what
we
have
on
the
table
now.
A
Is
it
really
more
or
less
also
not
just
giving
up
just
because
we
are
seeing
the
shadow
side
of
things
right
right?
I
mean,
if
I
would
say:
okay,
it's
all
my
kids.
Everything
number
go
up,
but
if
I
only
see
the
shadow
side
of
things
I
want
to,
you
know
become
a
nucleus
thing:
okay,
I
I
will
live
from
day
to
day
and
then
you
know
hope
you
know
that
I
don't
harm
no
one,
but
I
don't
even
not
really
care
and
whatever
right.
A
Everything
can
be
corrupted
or
is,
and
if
not,
then
it
will
be
and
so
on,
but
actually
taking
back
or
yeah
subverting
what
we
see
as
the
shadow
side
and
then
getting
it
back
to
the
center
to
the
more
balanced
area
of
of
this
consent.
D
E
Been
existing
with
people
treating
them
in
a
shadow
way
like
a
slave,
let's
say,
then:
if
you're
compassionate
toward
that
person
who's
been
trapped
in
a
kind
of
slavery,
then
you
can
that
that
subverts
the
slavery
itself
and
then
brings
them
in
a
position
where
they
then
actually
can
serve
somebody.
You
know
in
a
way
that
you
know
might
actually
be
better
than
somebody
who
hadn't
had
to
live
through
that
difficulty
right.
So
you
can
be
it's
interesting
because
it
is.
E
D
E
For
building
is
very
different
than
the
skillful
subverting,
and
so
you
have
to
say
I'm
trying
to
help
and
encourage
and
and
and
be
compassionate
toward
people
who
then
I'm
going
to
want
to
assist
in
us,
creating
tools
to
subvert
a
broken
system
right.
So
it's
an
interesting
question
because
those
two
things
appear
to
be
opposites,
but
when
you
chain.
E
Then
you
can
flip
it
around,
so
you
could
be
a
narcissist
who
goes
in
and
everything
that
you
destroy
or
everything
you
touch
you
destroy
because
you
came
in
saying:
I'm
gonna
be
good
to
you
and
do
all
these
things
and
say
great
I'll.
Let
you
come
in
my
house
and
then
you
set
it
on
fire.
You
know.
So
it's
just
an
interesting
question
and
I
think
we
need
to
consider
both
of
those
together
right.
E
The
shadow
and
the
light
together
when
we're
thinking
about
everything,
and
then
we
end
up
coming
to
a
more
balanced.
You
know
idea
of
it.
A
You
know
exactly,
and
you
can
just
take
a
take,
take
a
moment
and
just
accept
right
that
that
both
exist
and
just
also
maybe
just
create
that
space,
where
the
participants
can
also
just
accept
that,
but
together,
basically
again
through
consent
and
and
through.
E
A
Yeah,
so
I
don't
know
how
how
you
see
it,
but
I
would
say
we
definitely
have
another
one
and
manu.
If
you
say
it
works
well
with
the
capabilities
approach.
A
Maybe
we
have
just
one
one
more
session
where
you
share,
or
you
know,
also
call
on
any
one
of
us
to
to
help
you
put
it
together,
but
I
would
love
to
have
one
session
solely
really
focused
on
this.
You
know
leadership
the
way
politics,
the
way
we
used
to
and
how
we
see
it.
It
is
going.
You
know
the
the
pathologies
of
it,
but
then
how
we
actually
by
seeing
that,
can
choose
to
be
in
this
healthy
space
together.
Maybe.
E
E
D
D
E
A
The
the
yeah,
the
way
I
see
it
like,
I
guess
it's
really
about
reflection
right-
reflect,
for
example,.
A
A
And
then
they
can
actually
move
forward
right,
that
there
is
really
no
space
for
some
meta
game,
manipulation
and
co-opting
still
taking
place,
because
we
are
just
always
aware
so
that
that's
basically
my
my
wish
for
these
parties,
but
their
networks
also
for
individuals
and
for
myself
to
have
these
faculties
and
then
to
to
be
able
to
navigate
really
the
the
the
toughest
patches,
even
as
an
individual,
but
also
as
a
collective.
A
And
you
know
a
reward
system
right
if
a
reward
system
should
help
us
to
actually
navigate
right,
give
us
or-
or
you
know,
feedback
and
and
amplify
signals
to
help
us
navigate
these.
These
highly
complex
adaptive,
dynamic
systems,
then
that
reward
system
should
pick
up
on
on
these
subtleties
on
these
contributions,
etc.
So
this
definitely
resonates
a
lot
and
I
can
at
least
say
one
and
I'm
sure
there
are
more
communities
who
would
be
interested
in
exactly
this
discussion
and
then
also
again
how
it,
how
it
ties
to
to
reward
system.
A
So
definitely
could
we
could
have.
I
don't
know
many
manu,
please
interrupt
if
you
had
something
else
in
mind,
but
you
could
definitely
have
another
focus
group
based
on
these
ins
on
these
things
that
you
just
shared
here.
C
Because
I
I'd
really
like
like
it
to
have
a
spiritual
underpinning
to
it,
the
the
the
book
that
I
derive
most
of
the
content
from
is
it's
more
academic
and
and
actually
it's
it's
like
corporative
or
yeah.
It's
it's
based
on
okay
leadership
in
a
management
context
in
corporations,
so
it
has
to
be
applied.
D
C
It's
interesting
at
the
end
of
the
chapter.
He
says
that
it's
it's
very
easy
for
someone
to
legitimize
their
leadership
position
if
they
claim
that
they
have
been
sent
from
god
and
it
goes
on
to
become
going
to
say
that,
like
kings
like
pharaohs,
that
was
their
whole
thing.
Right,
like
we
are
god
and
then
anarchy
was
where
we're
god's
representative
and
then
like
in
the
like,
in
historically
like
in
in
western
europe,
like
the
church,
had
like
a
huge
amount
of
leadership
or
quality
influence.
If
you
will,
but
it
was
like.
A
C
And
they
didn't
have
any
armies,
but
it
was
because
they
were
like
okay,
we
are
god's
representative
on
earth,
so
there
is.
There
is
enough
to
tie
the
two
together
like
spirituality
and.
C
But
I'd
like
to
go
more
into
like
the
shadow
aspect
of
it
and
how
it
ties
into
hinduism
and
and
and
vedic
philosophy,
and
all
that
is
an
expert.
E
Yeah,
we
just
got
done
talking
about
that
in
our
in
our
spirit,
analytics
group
here.
A
Yeah:
okay,
no
super
cool.
What
is
the
book
called
again.
A
F
One
of
the
coaches
that
I've
really
found
effective
in
my
life
is
his
name,
is
brian
tracy,
so
check
out
brian
tracy
he's
a
bit
older
school,
but
in
age,
but
his
the
principles
are
universal
and
timeless,
and
it
just
it
amps
you
up,
while
you're
listening
to
it,
yeah
really
really
good
stuff.
Please.
A
Do
share
in
the
channel
as
well.
Oh
you
do
so.
Okay,
thanks
cool
cool,
so
just
one
more
thing
and
this
whole
leadership-
and
I
guess
we
can
do
the
focus
group
decentralized
with
the
ship
kind
of
thing.
Okay,
but
definitely.
A
Stories
from
their
communities
or
token
economies
to
it,
for
example,
data
invisible
economy,
that's
a
big
current
topic,
definitely
super
cool
and
also
please
share
anything.
You
had
in
mind
the
books,
the
names
in
the
omega
channel-
please
I
am
just
putting
it
under
here.
Somehow
may
I
say
manuka
facilitator
and
you
always.
I
always
have
your
bags
super
interested
in
helping
with
that,
and
we
could
do
start
with
you
know
before
you
go
into
making
a
session.
A
You
could
make
the
the
theme
of
the
second
focus
group,
where
you
can
actually
gather
more
yeah,
more
food
for
for
formation.
If
you
go
from
people
in
the
trenches
of
token
economies
to
that
we
have
just
seven
minutes
and
before
juan
also
goes,
I
wanted
to
actually
come
back
to
one
aspect.
A
Rhythm
still,
so
I
wanted
to
ask
you
juan:
how
do
you
see?
I
mean
there
is
definitely
this
ethics
consent,
like
the
this
two
working
groups,.
A
If
we
are
actually
acting
ethical
or
you
know,
with
these
ethical
principles
right,
we
are
actually
doing
a
lot
towards
preventing
conflict
to
arise
without
being
noticed.
For
example,.
A
D
I
I
was
talking
about
this
with
durgadas
and
with
mount
manu
and
with
baby
and.
D
That
really
gravity
focuses
a
lot
in
the
part
of
managing
conflict
when
it
arises
and
having
strategies
to
handle
it.
But
there's
also
this
this
other
side
of
the
picture
that
is
even
bigger.
That
is
how
to
prevent
conflict
from
arising,
and
I
for
sure
feel
that
yeah,
that
that's
has
a
lot
of
relationship
with
the
ethics
side
of
it
and
with
the
developmental
thinking
and
with
the
growth
of
of
mind
and
spirit.
D
So
yeah,
I
I
think
for
sure,
and
absolutely
these
are
like
two
sides
of
the
coin,
and
and-
and
I
would
like
to
to
promote
this
more
like
yeah,
but
either
participating
more
more
from
more
in
omega
or
or
or
joining
forces
with
gravity
to
to
to
make
a
more
full
picture
that
that
that
can
avoid
both
sides.
Of
of
of
it.
A
D
And
I,
I
think
that
sorry,
sorry,
sorry
for
interrupting
that
durga
has
made
it
really
really
well
in
one
of
his
infographics.
I
will
try
to
to
paste
it
in
the
in
the
document
where
he
shows
like
the
the
two
sides
of
of
the
of
of
of
the
equation
and
yeah.
I
I
I
think
that
this
other
side,
this
light
side,
can
can
be
more
developed
as
a
narrative
as
te
ethics
or
or
yeah
leadership
growth.
D
There's
a
lot
of
names
to
inner
engineering,
yeah
yeah,
it's
to
have
what
would
be
the
narrative
to
have
that,
but
for
sure
to-
and
this
is
also
very
related
to
to
the
onboarding
yeah,
because
the
onboarding
is
a
process.
But
this
could
be
also
like
the
ethics
that
is
behind
the
boarding
process.
A
A
Just
all
reasoning,
also,
you
know
again
coming
back
to
do
your
own
research
that
you
actually
say.
Okay,
I
want
to
participate
in
this
community
and
it
is
not
just
to
the
community
to
actually,
you
know,
put
everything
in
a
consumable
format
for
me,
but
actually
I
also
do,
engage
and
find
information
and
so
on,
for
my
informed
participation,
it's
kind
of
the
ethics
of
it
of
it
all
the
the
very
basic
practical,
practical
ethics,
because
that's
something,
for
example,
I
had-
or
I
had
seen
from
for
myself.
A
A
And
capabilities-
and
you
know
if
this
is
a
participator
network-
everyone
in
their
capacities
should
be
yeah
actively
participating,
meaning
also
actively
leading
some
some
part
of
this
network
right.
Some
part
of
value
value.
Add
it's
it's
quite
interesting
to
see
how
it
all
ties
together.
E
A
Just
quickly,
if
you
have,
you
know
some
more
more
concrete
feedback
here,
how
we're
capturing
this.
I
think
nick
already
put
together
that
we
should
really
not
just
let
the
links
reside
on
in
in
the
chat
but
actually
build.
This
google
drive
together
that
can
become
part
of
the
library
etc.
A
The
same
way,
I
would
say
that
we
put
together
this
document
about
the
ethical
principles
and
then
maybe
people
really
add
what
other
activities
working
group
in
token
engineering
commons,
but
also
in
general,
these
these
ethical
principles,
map
too
and
then
basically,
the
write-up
could
be
git
book,
starting
with
the
the
just
dock
and
then
basically,
these
these
sessions
that
seem
to
come
out
and
then
basically,
we
give
them
twice
here
or
they
are
just
recorded
and
they
can
be
accessed
anytime,
and
the
working
group
can
just
be
there
to.
A
A
In
the
summary-
and
I
would
say
next
week,
let's
have
another
session
where
we
make
it
more
concrete
or
already
go
through
the
documents
that
that
we
start
now.