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Polarity wisdom 11
My stroke of insight 2 - Jill Bolte Taylor
Are You A DAO?
Deliberately developmental organizations (DDO) 4
How not to manage complexity 4
Jungian shadow work 1
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So
all
right,
so
thank
you
guys
all
for
coming.
So
this
is,
I
think,
the
fourth
time
I've
presented
this
to
the
gravity
group,
the
last
two
times.
I've
had
sort
of
two
sessions
per
training,
but
I
think
this
time
it's
one,
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
put
a
lot
into
into
the
one
training,
but
basically
I'm
regis
chapman
durgados.
I
run
a
yoga
studio
here.
You
guys
actually
see
me
sort
of
in
my
yoga
studio.
Most
of
the
time
it
looks
like
this.
C
So,
let's
see
so,
who
am
I
I'm?
Basically
all
of
these
things,
a
bit
of
a
autistic
polymath
and
and
my
partner
is
olympic
medalist.
Pan
am
games
medalist
and
commonwealth
games
medalist.
We
had
sort
of
talked
about
gravity
dao
as
the
beginning
about
being
a
shelling
point
for
the
kind
of
solution
that
people
choose.
In
the
absence
of
communication,
you
know
how
do
we
treat
each
other
when
we
don't
have
people
to
guide
us
and
and
and
other
things-
let's
admit
some
more
folks?
C
So
this
is
also
very
nicely
harmonized
with
the
mission
for
the
token
engineering,
commons
and
so
right
now
we're
basically
in
phase
one
of
kind
of
sort
of
you
know
splitting
from
token
engineering
commons
in
in
a
practical
sense,
but
if
not
to
not
at
all,
really
in
the
in
the
sort
of
philosophical
sense.
So
this,
I
think
I
originally
did
this
because
it
was
the
first.
C
And
mindful
about
you
know
the
the
complexity
of
the
situation.
Try
to
have
a
situational
awareness
about,
what's
going
on,
to
try
to
think
in
in
these
broad-minded
ways,
so
that
we
can
lead
with
our
compassion
and
mindfulness
in
such
a
way
that
it
can
create
connections
and
and
allow
for
the
the
humanity
and
in
what
is
arguably
often
a
a
very
busy
situation
and
fraught
with
a
lot
of
you
know.
Stress,
and
the
primary
thing
I
think
is
to
be
able
to
sort
of
be
moderative
and
be
able
to
hold
space.
C
Go
about
holding
space
right,
so
basically,
there
are
three
things
about
participating:
there's
the
curated
material.
So
if
you're
gonna,
for
example,
attend
a
training
like
this
one,
there's
a
bunch
of
curated
material
like
this
graphic
and
other
things,
concepts
and
other
things
that
have
already
been
created.
So
we
as
gravitons
and
when
we
pop
into
other
communities
they
already
have
a
kind
of
cultural
dynamic.
C
They
have
certain
ways
to
go
about
doing
things
and
it's
our
job
to
sort
of
step
in
there
and
figure
out
how
how
the
the
moder,
how
to
moderate
between
the
discussions,
which
have
you
know
in
the
cross-pollination
side
of
the
thing,
may
have
stopped
being
generative
and
become
you
know
otherwise,
sort
of
unhealthy,
and
then
you
know
also
to
sort
of
work
with
the
existing
culture
as
it
is
and
then
gradually
sort
of
make
changes.
So
this
is
a.
This
is
a
model
that
can
work
at
multiple
levels.
C
So,
if
you're
participating
in
a
group,
that's
got
a
sort
of
bounded
systems.
Thinking
sort
of
got
to
get
things
done,
sort
of
mode.
You
can
work
in
that
participation
model
across
the
top
and
that
sort
of
handles
how
to
participate
within
corn
with
informed
consent
and
deal
with
expectations
and
safety.
Allow
for
people
to
talk
about
what's
alive
in
them
and
to
discover
things
and
then
on
the
the
back
side
of
that
to
make
sense
of
it.
And
then
then
you
know
create
or
modify
whatever
processes
might
exist
or
need
to
change.
A
C
So
my
the
basis
for
what
I
talk
about
is
often
you
know
dealing
with
the
neuroanatomy
of
the
brain,
the
left
and
right,
brain
and-
and
there
are
just
two
basic
ways
of
thinking
and
when
they
combine
together.
The
whole
idea
is
to
sort
of
work
in
this
sort
of
paradoxical
way,
so
we
can
come
up
with
the
third
alternative
that
might
exist
between
what
it
seems
to
be
two
apparent
opposites.
C
So
you'll
see
that
this
thing
is
actually
this
thing
that
I'm
talking
about
is
repeated
over
and
over.
You
know
in
this
process,
and
so
when
I'm
talking
about
you
know,
decolonization
part
of
the
thing
is
to
recognize
that
colonization
takes
place
fundamentally
in
the
divided
thinking
brain
like
the
the
extractive
exploitive.
C
You
know,
monetary
system
that
we're
all
participating
in
outside
of
the
world
of
cryptocurrencies
is
all
because
our
culture
validates
teaches
and
acts
like.
The
only
thing
that
exists
is
this
divided
way
of
thinking,
which
has
inevitable
effects
in
terms
of
people,
and
so
we'll
we'll
say
that
this
thing
has
more
or
less
value.
This
person
has
more
or
less
value.
C
One
is
jill
bolte
taylor's,
very
inspirational,
my
stroke
of
insight
where
she
had
a
hematoma
that
exploded
in
her
brain
and
she
had
to
watch
her
own
sort
of
brain
devolve,
it's
kind
of
cool
in
a
way
because
she
was
a
brain
anatomist,
and
so
she
got
to
see
it
from
the
inside
and
sort
of
then
see
how
her
right
brain
sort
of
took
over
and
how
she
could
experience
the
unified
nature
of
reality.
This
is
also
true
in
the
years
today
spent
living
in
a
hindu
monastery.
C
A
lot
of
the
spiritual
stuff
that
you
go
through
and
study
is
really
about
validating
the
sort
of
right
hemisphere
of
the
brain,
and
I
think
what
that
does.
It
has
implications
for
how
we
behave
against
the
society
and-
and
you
can
actually
see
you
know
how
these
things
roll
up.
I
have
a
much
larger
presentation
that
includes
all
of
this
stuff
that
I
talk
about.
That's
really
specific
to
decolonization,
but
it
usually
takes.
You
know
a
two
or
three
hour
period
to
explain.
C
So
I'm
not
gonna
get
into
the
whole
thing.
I'm
just
gonna,
you
know
stay
with
the
the
the
key
points
here,
but
if
you
can
just
understand
that
there
are
two
fundamental
ways
to
think
and
one
is
divided
and
the
other
is
unified
and
in
order
to
decolonize
ourselves,
we
have
to
understand
the
the
various
reflexive
divided
ways
of
thinking
we've
been
brought
up
with
in
our
education
system
and
otherwise
and
and
the
ethical
systems
that
we
need
to
create,
considering
the
unified
side
of
the
picture.
C
So
yeah
thanks
for
the
thanks
for
the
link,
it's
the
same
link
that
I
have
here
so
one
of
the
most
inspiring
things
and
in
fact,
when
I,
when
I
left
the
ashram
living
for
these,
for
where
I
lived
for
many
years,
I
saw
this
video
and
I
was
like
oh
well.
That
was
what
I
was
doing
all
this
time,
so
it
was
a
very
nice
way
to
contextualize
some
of
this
work
that
I
had
been
doing.
C
You
know
internally
and
then
my
when
I
came
to
the
token
engineering
commons,
I
saw
that
actually,
what
we
were
doing
is
we
were
doing
this
thing
called
the
cultural
build,
and
then
what
I
realized
was
was
that
the
internal
relationships
that
we
were
having
around
our
own,
divided
brains
had
been
very
much
revealed
in
terms
of
the
I'm
going
to
admit
some
more
folks
very
much
revealed
in
the
way
that
our
social
forms
are
happening.
So
you
know
sexism,
racism,
transphobia.
C
The
thing
is:
is
that
all
the
pretexts
for
this
kind
of
narcissistic
abuse
are
just
you
know
relatively
simplistic
right,
so
the
the
point
of
all
of
this
is
to
to
sort
of
understand
how
that's
tricked
us
in
the
financial
system
which,
because
I'm
talking
to
folks
in
in
daos
and
and
in
token
engineering
commons
and
often
you
know,
dowser
focus
on
you
know
crypto
economics,
I'm
sort
of
hedging
a
little
bit
toward
that.
But
my
point
about
that
is
just
that.
C
The
way
we
treat
each
other
the
way
we
educate
each
other,
the
way
we
socialize
when
we
talk
to
each
other.
All
of
these
things,
the
in
the
the
financial
systems
and
instruments
that
we've
created
on
the
back
of
this
divided
way
of
thinking
all
are
revealed
inside
of
the
inside
of
the
culture
that
that
basically
just
makes
even
unified
things
into
divided
things,
and
so
so
yeah.
C
So
here's
a
whole
bunch
of
lists
of
different
things
that
I've
sort
of
observed
about
the
nature
of
of
these
different
social
forms
right
and
so
prior
to
colonization.
What
we
had
was,
you
could
have
a
you,
could
have
the
whole
entire
world
was
sort
of
in
a
more
or
less
unified
way
of
thinking
as
a
whole,
and
so
you
can
have
somebody
like
a
genghis
khan
or
somebody
come
along
and
do
very
divided.
C
You
know
colonizer
kind
of
approach
to
things,
but
their
their
actions
would
be
sort
of
reabsorbed
back
into
the
overlying
unified
mentality
that
existed
on
the
planet
at
the
time.
Well,
with
since
colonization
by
europe
and
and
others,
you
know
basically
that
that
is
now
a
worldwide
phenomenon,
so
the
the
the
the
thermostatic
balance
that
used
to
be
able
to
happen
with
a
generally
unified
approach
to
things.
C
Talking
there,
and
so
it
used
to
be
that
you
know
we
could
contextualize
ourselves
in
this
unified
way.
But
now
we
have
an
entire
planet,
that's
covered
in
divided
colonizer
world
views,
and
so
we
almost
have
to
to
re-balance
things
so
that
the
unified
mindset
can
can
come
back
right,
and
so
it's
in
my
view,
the
the
whole
reason
why
cryptocurrencies
exist
is
to
try
to
redress
that
balance.
C
I
think
everybody
is
suffering
under
this
social
form,
and
but
some
of
us
have
a
certain
amount
of
blindness
to
it
that
we're
not
aware
of
so
it's
my
feeling
and
my
reason
for
participating
in
token
engineering
commons
is
to
try
to
help
individual
people
to
understand
and
recognize
what's
going
on
and
then
that'll
make
them.
You
know
more
able
to
create
financial
instruments
and
deal
with
each
other
in
such
a
way
that
we
can
undo
the
legacy
of
of
that
colonization.
C
So,
like
I
said
before,
we
still
have
you
know
two
monetary
systems
and
you
know,
there's
an
extract,
exploitative
versus
the
aligned
and
generative
side
of
the
picture,
and
of
course,
you
know
from
dealing
with
dealing
with
the
dow
side
of
things
that
there
are
regenerative
eco
villages
and
things
that
are
all
coming
up.
All
all
of
these
are
a
response
to
to
that
type
of
setup
as
well.
C
So
what
I
was
looking
for
was
just
a
unifying
framework
in
which
to
understand
how
all
of
these
things
works
and
and
there's
a
certain
amount
of
inherent
complexity
to
it.
So
the
the
next
slide
is
about
about
working
with
four
basic
principles
that
are
set
up
in
sort
of
two
halves.
One
is
the
trust
creation
side,
the
other
is
the
conflict
management
side
right,
and
so
my
my
emphasis
is
really
on.
C
C
C
C
So
principal
a
basically
around
trust
creation.
I'm
really
a
fan
of
you
know
these
three
basic
things.
One
one
is
the
connection
framework
which
I
won't
go
into
here,
but
we
can
talk
about
in
another
context,
spiral,
dynamics
and
integral
theory,
which
essentially
are
theories
of
everything
that
give
you
a
sense
of
how
people
can
develop
their
own
internal
work.
C
Principle
b
is
about
ostrom's
principles.
This
is
a
very
beautiful
graphic
that
I
found
today
that
actually
talks
about
this.
The
gravity
group
is
is
focused
on
on
about
half
of
of
these
things,
specifically
so
four
five,
six
and
eight.
So
the
point
of
four
five
and
six
should
be
obvious
to
people
who
are
participating
in
an
individual
dow
and
then
the
the
responsibility
for
governing
the
common
in
nested
tiers.
So
that
would
mean
our
relationships
with
other.
C
C
So
it's
also
true
that
if
you
don't
care
for
all
the
individual
participants
in
your
group,
then
when
you
reach
out
to
other
dows
and
that
relationship
is
going
to
be
more
fraud,
and
so
part
of
the
idea
behind
gravity
is
to
not
only
improve
all
the
individual
participants
but
as
a
side
effect.
You
would
end
up
having
an
excellent
way
of
dealing
with
things
on
the
on
the
down
or
down
side
of
the
picture
and
and
when
you're
interacting
and
having
partnerships,
and
things
like
that.
C
So
it's
also
true
that
there's
a
bit
of
an
evolution
that
I've
noticed
here
and
I
think
that
I
think
gravity
and
the
gravity
now
and
and
just
recognizing
that
there
is
a
kind
of
step
two
to
this.
What
I've
noticed
is
that
a
lot
of
people
are
like
I'm
tired
of
this
abusive
extractive
system.
I'm
just
gonna
go
over
and
jump
into
a
dow
right,
but
what
they
don't
really
realize
is
that
they
need
to
work
on.
C
You
know
how
to
deprogram
and
decolonize
from
the
abusive
extractive
system
and
take
back
agency
and
autonomy.
We've
been
trained
away
from
knowing
how
to
retain
our
own
agency
and
autonomy
and
how
to
take
responsibility,
and
so
it's
a
it's
a
complex
thing.
You
have
to
have
a
lot
of
trauma,
informed,
compassionate
groups
and
teams
and
people
who
have
language
around
those
things,
and
so
you
know,
gravity
and
gravitons
are
all
about.
C
You
know
trying
to
get
those
things
worked
on
and
and
and
make
the
participants
in
the
system
better
at
all
of
that,
so
that
they
they
can
actually
fulfill
the
promise
of
the
dao,
which
is
really
a
kind
of
digital
version
of
an
intentional
community.
From
you
know
that
has
happened
for
a
long
time.
You
know
so,
and
I
also
you
know.
C
I
often
say
that
this
step
number
two
is
the
shadow
side
of
the
psychological
shadow
side
of
of
daos
right,
where
you
don't
just
get
to
skip
over
all
that
other
work,
and-
and
I
do
notice
that
that,
even
in
the
token
engineering
commons
it
took
an
entire
year
to
do
a
cultural
build.
There
are
still
parts
of
that
that
we
missed
you
know.
C
I've
taken
it
further
in
the
sense
that
I
believe
that,
there's
once
you
are
actually
a
dow
that
gives
you
a
different
sort
of
ground
floor
on
which
a
place
of
strength
from
which
to
come.
Where,
then,
what
do
you
do?
And-
and
so
you
have
a
stable
decentralized
structure
from
which
then
individuals
can
sort
of
grow
and
become
the
best
versions
of
themselves
in
in
step.
C
Theory
of
everything
this
is
the
all
quadrants
all
levels
model
and
it
may
seem
a
little
bit
confusing,
but
there's
a
very
simple.
You
know
narrative
framework
that
you
can
use
to
understand
this.
If
you
find
yourself
in
the
individual
interior,
that's
where
you
generally
are
going
to
operate
from
right,
your
general
self
and
consciousness
is
going
to
have
a
certain
developmental
level
and
you're
going
to
be.
C
So
so
these
these
kinds
of
tools
give
us
some
way
of
kind
of
grasping
the
larger
forces
at
work.
When
it
comes
to
you
know,
dealing
with
conflicts
right.
So
it's
also
true
that
if
you've
got
a
whole
bunch
of
people
who
are
working
out
of
the
egocentric
self
like
a
lot
of
these,
what
do
you
want
to
call
them?
You
know
coin
groups
or
whatever,
if
we're
just
trying
to
take
advantage
of
people.
C
So
so
and
then
there's
a
system,
that's
created
by
that
culture
and
world
view,
and
so
what
I've
noticed,
there's
a
kind
of
there's
a
kind
of
pendulum
that
goes
between
the
the
individual
self
and
the
consciousness
and
the
social
system
and
environment
that
that
sort
of
is
the
result
of
the
cultural
worldview.
So
the
individual
participants
influence
the
culture
and
worldview
which
then
influences
the
system,
and
then
that
system
then
works
backward
and
influences
the
cultural
worldview
and
the
individuals
participating
in
the
system.
C
C
So
that's
why
we're
sort
of
talking
about
it
here
and
then
you
know
we
can
use
other
tools,
and
this
is
just
one
of
many,
but
I
wanted
to
give
you
an
example
of
a
worksheet
and
if
you
were,
if
you're
paying
a
decent
amount
of
attention,
you
might
have
noticed
that
way.
Back
here
I
had,
I
have
included
the
the
the
polarity
mapping
infinity
symbol
behind
right
because
it
actually
relates
directly.
C
So
if
you,
if
you
take
a
look
at
the
way,
you
can
actually
just
sit
down
with
it
with
the
group
and
and
try
to
take
a
look
at
this.
This
is
basically
a
worksheet
that
you
could
use
to
figure
out.
The
ways
in
which
you
know
conflicts
can
occur
because
oftentimes,
it's
a
conflict
between
sort
of
two
false
dualities
people
who
are
afraid
of
change.
People
who
are
you
know,
feel
like
they're,
stuck
in
us
to
overly
stable
system,
and
there
can
grow
conflict
between
that
so
in
gravity.
C
So
if
you
want
to
participate
in
helping
us
deal
with
the
website
or
do
they
need
planning
or
and
then
bianca's
got
a
psychology
working
group,
and
so
these
are
some
of
the
other
things
that
we're
doing.
I
will
say
that
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
I'm
talking
to
you
about
now,
the
narrative
things
that
I'm
talking
about
we'll
be
offering
a
group
course
between
the
omega
group
and
gravity
that
sort
of
talks
about
how
to
look
at
a
particular
thing.
C
C
A
You've
gone
really
deep
into
a
lot
of
of
complex
concepts,
but
it
all
can
be
explained
really
easily.
So
we
can
also
make
some
some
like
memes
or
metaphors
to
to
like
explain
what
we're
talking
about,
divided
and
unified
and
and
yeah.
How?
How
can
this
change
of
approach
make
an
impact
on
how
you
you
face
a
situation.
C
A
C
C
And
so,
when
we're
dealing
with
conflicts,
you
know
it's
important
to
be
able
to
parse
out
all
those
things
and
to
have
tools
to
kind
of
break
that
up,
so
that
you
can
understand
the
underlying
narratives
and
hidden
things
which
you
know
kind
of
exist
there.
So
so
yeah
I
mean
I
have
gone
really
deep
into.
A
C
Yeah
and-
and
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
just
that-
it's
been
my
observation-
that
a
persistent
decontextualization
where,
where
you
know
when
I
go
to
scratch,
my
head
I'll
accidentally,
poke
myself
in
the
eye
and
I'm
you
know
I'm
just
there
yelling
at
my
finger.
That
seems
to
be
the
way
our
culture
works.
Now
you
know
what
I'm
saying
like
it's
just
the
dumbest
thing
in
the
world
to
me,
and
so
I
like,
I
want
a
solution
for
that.
C
What's
a
what's
a
way
that
I
can
think
about
this,
so
that
when
I
accidentally
do
put
myself
in
the
eye
and
go
no,
no,
it's
okay!
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying
and,
and
so
so
the
the
point
of
it
is:
is
that
yeah
it's
true
what
what
what
sean
is
saying?
You
know
this
stuff
is
only
complex
because
people
have
made
it
complex
right.
We
we
have
yeah.
C
A
Yes
thanks.
First,
thank
you
for
this
great
presentation,
which
summarizes
all
these
practices
to
build
a
healthy
community.
And
what
I
wanted
to
ask
you
is:
what
do
you
think
that
the
technology
or
the
dao
adds
to
it?
And
how
do
you
think
this
can
survive
in
some
way,
a
large
scale
and
technology,
because
we
are
talking
on
one
part
of
practices,
of
an
intention
behind
these
practices
and
then
comes
the
tokens
and
all
the
technology
stuff
and
also
the
large
scale
in
terms
of
a
number
of
people.
A
C
So
there
are
three
basic
examples
that
I
like
to
give
that's
related
to
this.
Okay,
so
so
so
think
about,
like
you
know,
let's
say
somebody
a
figure
like
jonas
salk
right,
so
he
discovered
a
you
know,
vaccine
for
a
debilitating
disease
and
then
gave
it
away
to
the
world
right.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
know
what
a
dobsonian
telescope
is,
but
I
know
the
guy
who
invented
the
dobsonian
telescope,
that
john
dobson.
C
He
was
a
vedantic
monk
and
lived
in
a
hindu
monastery
for
30
years,
and
so
like
he's
one
of
my
mentors,
and
so
so
he
actually
invented
the
dobsonian
telescope
and
gave
away
that,
and
so
now
he
has
made
it.
He
used
to
have
a
thing
called
the
sidewalk
astronomers.
Would
you
know
he
pointed
at
the
on
san
francisco
and
he'd
point.
You
know
and
people
come
look
at
saturn.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
be
like
homie.
I
had
no
idea
you
could
build
something
from
home
depot.
You
know
that
could
see.
C
Saturn
do
you
know
what
I
mean
so
it
was
like.
So
you've
got
this
sort
of
egalitarian
sort
of
mindset.
That's
thinking
about
the
commons
thinking
about
right,
and
so
that's
what
I
was
saying
about
gravity
being
so
rooted
in
ostrom's
principles
and
the
groundedness
of
the
comets,
and
what
what's
happened
with
us
is
the
colonizer
mindset.
C
Basically,
when
you
can
see
it
here
where
I
live
in
beerus
columbia,
you've
got
you
know,
what's
called
crown
land
technically
owned
by
the
queen
of
england,
so
you've
got
you've
got
you
know
so
that
she
just
sends
the
queen
is
like
yeah:
go
in
and
cut
down
all
the
trees,
so
all
the
old
growth
trees.
So
that's
the
way
we
tend
to
treat
the
comets.
You
know
we
treat
water.
This
way
we
treat
you
know
native
people.
This
way
we
treat
every
you
know
like.
C
So
this
is
what
we
do
with
the
economist.
This
is
an
extractive
process,
but
what
if
we
were
to
value
the
commons
instead,
like
a
jonassock
or
a
you
know,
and
then
what
you
would
end
up
with
would
be
one
of
my
favorite
things.
It's
like
hinduism
is
a
decentralized
religion.
I
don't
know
if
you're
aware
of
this,
but
hinduism
the
indian
continent
was
was
invaded
for
like
a
thousand
years
consecutively,
never
ending
so
there's
just
so
many
people
just
constantly
invading
it
right.
C
So
that's
actually
kind
of
what
the
financial
system
is
is
now
we,
if
we
just
have
this
extractive
system,
so
the
response
that
the
hindus
had
was.
They
took
all
of
their
religion,
away
from
the
temples
and
away
from
the
churches,
and
now
every
hindu's
got
a
locked
room
in
their
house
where
they
worship
and
that's
how
it
works
for
them
right.
That's
a
decentralized
religious,
a
billion
people
and
so
like.
C
For
me,
the
original
sort
of
crypto
thing
you
know
is
is
got
a
bunch
of
other
examples
that
you
can
use
to
see
how
people
respond
right,
and
so
so
a
mega
group
is
about
trying
to
create
people
who
would
respond,
like
jonas
saw
can
like
john
dobson
to
stress,
right
or
or
to
their
intelligence
or
to
their
ability
to
deal
with
complexity
right.
So,
jonas,
not
everybody
can
discover
a
vaccine
for
because
not
everybody's
that
smart,
but
those
people,
then
can
you
know
so
for
me.
C
C
You
know,
come
to
these
other
ways
of
thinking
and
then
as
a
population,
then
we
can
be
wise
enough
to
make
a
decentralized
choice
like
the
hindus
did
about.
You
know
decentralizing,
you
know
their
religion
or
their
their
worship
or
their.
You
know
their
own
internal
practices
to
ground
them,
whatever
you
want
to
call
those
things
their
spirituality,
so
you
know
we
can
do.
We
can
do
that
with
finance
too,
and
it's
also
true
that
you
know
abusive
systems
in
order
to
replace
them.
C
You
have
to
kind
of
create
parallel
systems,
which
and
and
it's
important,
that
you
have
people
who,
like
jonah,
salk
and
john
dobson,
who
are
creating
these
parallel
systems
that
don't
just
recreate
another
problematic
system.
That's
going
to
blow
up
in
the
faces
of
people
three
or
four
generations
down
the
line
right,
so
that's
kind
of
did
I
answer
your
question.
A
C
A
C
C
The
extractive
abusive
mindset
is
the
the
mindset
of
a
merchant.
It's
just
straight
up
right.
One
thing:
one
person
has
this
amount
of
value
and
all
objects
are
evaluated
according
to
value,
I
mean
even
look
at
how
our
mentality
is
about
our
psychology.
You
know,
do
I
have
worth
do.
I
have
value,
you
know
what
I'm
saying
like.
What
is
it
that
I
do
value?
It's
just
subversively,
true
that
we
have
learned
to
treat
ourselves
in
this
kind
of
way.
C
So
what
I'm
suggesting
is
that
that
technology
itself
isn't
the
problem,
but
technology
has
typically
been
used
to
aggregate
well
for
the
already
wealthy
right,
that's
just
typically
how
it
works
right.
So
it's
just
so
so.
Up
to
now
you
know
it's
it's
like
you
know.
Merchants
have
just
basically
merchants
run
the
world
now.
Nation
states
are
just
figureheads
and-
and
you
know
it's
the
merchants
that
decide
everything
and
and
the
mentality
of
having
this
thing
is
worth
more
or
less
because
of
some
arbitrary
system.
You
can
undo
that
problem
with
technology.
C
So
let's
say,
for
example,
an
example
of
decontextualization
is:
let's
make
everything
into
one
token.
Well,
how
about
we
take
the
old
hindu
idea
about
the
eight
forms
of
wealth
and
instead
of
smashing
it
all
down
into
a
single
token
that
we
actually
talk
about
the
circular
genius
and
social
wealth
and
and
and
and
all
these
different
kinds
of
things
that
can
happen
where
it
can
fill
us
up
and
make
us
feel
wealthy
rather
than
smashing
it
all
down
into
one
decontextualized
thing:
that's
that's
what
colonization
does
that's?
C
What
colonizers
do
there
can
be
only
one
right,
so
my
point
is:
is
that
we
often
we
often
do
this,
and
so
I
spend
a
lot
of
time
anybody
who's
been
in
groups
with
me.
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
saying:
can
we
make
this
broader
right
and
I've
got
a
I've
got
an
actual.
You
know
those
of
you
have
been
in
groups
with
me
in
the
past
might
hear
me
say
the
words.
I
have
a
graphic
for
that,
a
fair
bit,
because
I
almost
always
do.
C
C
It's
that's.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
technology
is
created,
but
you
have
to
have
we
have.
We
have
to
actively
create
people
who
are
thinking
about
the
commons
before
themselves
and
so
that
we
can
then
take
that
technology
and
leverage
it
for
the
use
of
the
commons
rather
than
against
you
know,
and
and
and
what
I'm
suggesting
is
that
this
left
and
right
brain
way
of
thinking
is
all
about.
C
You
know
shifting
the
balance
of
that
for
for
people
and
making
it
so
that
more
people
can
understand
that
they've
been
lied
to
by
society.
They've
been
educated
in
a
weird
way
that
makes
it
jonathan
hate
calls
it
the
weird,
the
western
you're
educated,
industrialized,
rich
democratic
nations,
that
that
the
amount
of
influence
that
goes
into
the
our
brain
wiring
it
actually
for
weird
versus
non-weird
societies,
let's
say
native
or
indigenous
peoples
versus
you
know
these
these
colonized
societies
that
it
even
goes
to
visual
processing.
C
So
if
you
draw
like
a
line
on
a
piece
of
paper
right
for
a
a
weird
mentality,
they're
going
to
see
they're
going
to
see
the
square
and
they're
going
to
see
the
line
as
two
separate
entities,
whereas
a
non-weird
or
a
native
population
would
regard
those
two
things
in
relationship
with
each
other
right.
It
is
so
deeply
held
and
I
feel
like
we
need
to
recognize
the
problem
and
then
work
within
these
new
communities
to
educate
our
way
out
of
that
sort
of
issue
that
that
we're
facing.
A
If,
if
we
don't
work
on
on
those
people,
we
will
end
up
having
like
destructive
doubts
and
and
if,
if
we
work
on
on
that
infrastructure
of
the
new
institutions,
then
we
will
have
a
high
impact
on
on
the
future,
because
those
new
institutions
will
will
build
the
future.
And
if
we
work
on
on
that
ethic,
for
these
new
institutions,
we
will
have
a
direct
impact
on
the
in
the
future
and
yeah.
I
will
pass
it
to
to
sean
too.
B
C
B
C
B
B
But
I
I
don't
know
I
like,
I
think
my
major
takeaway
from
this
is
and
something
that
really
resonates
with
me
is
like
something
you
said
that
you
can't
show
someone
compassion
if
you
don't
show
that
for
yourself,
and
I
think
that
that
can
go
up
towards
the
organizations
too
right.
So
if
organizations
are
formed
in
a
way
and
they're
not
like
owning
these,
these
thought
processes
in
this
way
of
doing
things.
B
Then
it
resonates
in
in
their
actions,
and
I
think
that
through
like
this
training,
specifically,
if
we
can
kind
of
find
that
place
in
ourselves
and
and
come
to
these
conflicts
from
that
place,
we're
also
opening
up
these
people
that
are
having
conflicts
to
this
way
of
thinking,
and
I
think
that's
so
it's
so
important
like
not
not
just
for
taos.
I'm
saying
like
for
the
evolution
of
humanity
like
this
is
true.
B
C
I
I
keep
this
thing
as
a
reminder.
It
was
one
of
the
one,
spiritual
teachers
that
my
partner
loves
and-
and
this
is
in
like
a
little
calendar
thing,
it's
got
some
reminders
and
and
the
the
teacher
of
this
current
teacher
that
we're
you
know
used
to
say
who
are
you
to
set
right
the
world
you
have
to
first
rectify
yourself
and
your
own
mind.
When
the
mind
becomes
right,
then
everything
will
appear
all
right,
look
within
yourself,
but
then,
if
you're
going
to
act
on
the
basis
of
that,
then
you
can.
C
You
can
act
from
a
place
of.
Am
I
the
doer
of
this
thing.
You
know
non-viewership
is
really
big
because
you
want
to
in
many
ways
you
want
to
act
on
behalf
of
the
universe
right,
but
if
you
still
think
that
you
are
the
unique
you
know
contributor
to
this
or
I
donated
so
much
money
or
I
did
you
know,
I
created
this
token-
that's
going
to
change
the
world.
C
B
B
C
Yeah
and
I
think
it
harkens
back
to
ostrom's
principles,
so
if
we're
doing
mutual
monitoring,
what
are
we
monitoring
for?
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying
like,
for
example,
I
would
like
somebody
to
say
that
somebody
like
griff
or
livy,
or
how
effective,
are
they
at
breaking
up
and
distributing
the
power
that
they
have
because
they're
people
who
are
there
at
the
foundation
of
this
thing,
how
effective
are
they
at
that?
I
would
reward
them
for
giving
away
their
power
right.
You
can
see
that
griff
is
amazing
at
that.
C
You
can
see
that
liv
is
amazing
at
that
right,
but
it's
the
thing
we
don't
measure,
but
why
right
so
like
so
so
I
would
want
to
look
at
all
these
metrics.
How
effective
have
you
been
at
deprogramming
yourself
from
the
abusive
extractive
economy?
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying,
how
effective
have
you
been
at
decolonizing
yourself
or
taking
up
a
unified
perspective
right?
I
would
want
to
have
metrics
on
that
stuff
and
not
you
know
many
of
the
other
things
that
I
see
dows
actually
putting
metrics
on
so
yeah.
C
Those
of
you
who
need
to
go,
you
know
you're
you're,
welcome
to
go,
but
I'm
gonna,
like
I
say,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
stay,
and
so
you
I
can
answer
all
the
rest
of
your
questions
until
they're
done
so
we're
at
the
top
of
the
hour,
and
I
want
to
respect
people's
time.
But
I'm
I'm
off
today.
So
I
don't
have
any
time
constraints.
A
C
B
B
I
want
to
say
I
want
to
say
that
everything
you've
shared
deeply
resonates,
and
you
know
I'm
pretty
freshly
only
three
months
through
part
of
the
give
it
team
and
I've
been
last
year,
hi
from
costa
rica,
part
of
building
intentional
communities
on
the
ground.
We
were
successful
enough
to
you
know,
have
our
own
association
set
up
and
founded,
and
we
are
actually
actively
working
on
our
micro
economy.
B
And
it's
actually
I've
never
grown
more
and
my
really
my
relationships
were
never
stronger.
If
there
were
not
the
conflicts
there
that
we
were
able
to
work
through
together,
but
it
does
take
a
lot
of
personal
work,
a
lot
of
work
with
the
ego
and
really
taking
putting
out
the
personal
agenda
and
looking
at
the
bigger
picture
on
me
in
that
only
this
this
way
we
can
really
aim
and
try
to
do
bigger
things.
So.
C
Yeah
and
it's
interesting
what
I'm
talking
about
the
left
and
the
right,
those
things
are
not
opposites.
One
includes
the
other.
Do
you
see
what
I'm
saying
so
it's
not
that
you
know,
but
but
the
divided
way
of
thinking
sets
up
a
false
duality
about
everything.
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying
and
and
then
it
is
actually
the
ego
is
nothing
but
a
construction
of
those
mistakes.
It
is
a
is
a
thing
you
have
to
put
in
effort
to
maintain
right.
So
so.
C
And
then
I'm
going
to
validate
that
fallacy
over
and
over
again,
and
then
on
top
of
that,
I'm
going
to
build
a
whole
another
group
of
house
of
cards
and
I'm
going
to
keep
validating
all
of
this
stuff,
and
then
I'm
going
to
call
myself
you
know
by
this
name
and
and
the
value
of
having
another
name
I
figured
out-
was
that
you
you
you,
you
have
to
look
at
your
identity.
I
went
from
being
a
king
right,
regis,
it's
good
to
be
the
king
to
being
a
servant
right.
C
This
is
very
much
like
a
paradoxical
way
of
looking
at
that.
So
I
I
almost
feel
like
groups
like
yours,
should
take
on
a
different
name
for
what
role
you're
currently
inhabiting
in
the
dao
or
whatever,
in
a
sense
right,
because
then
it
would
change
your
identification
as
to
what's
going
on.
So
I
I
just
sorry
to
add
to
that,
but
I
I
wanted
to
just
add
that
so
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
you
100.
B
This
is
a
this
is
a
beautiful
discussion.
Yes,
and
I
agree-
oh
oh,
it's
coming
back
it's
coming
back.
I
didn't
want
to
say
that
we,
I
mean
that's
the
beauty
of
duality
right,
we're
living
in
a
world
of
contrast.
So
how
can
we
embrace
it
all
and
and
find
a
piece
with
it
all
cause?
I
used
to
run
away
from
conflict
now,
it's
my
like.
I
find
so
much
passion
in
it,
so
it's
really
just
changing
the
perspectives
and
making
new
relationships
with
yourself
and
with
all
the
narratives.
You
have
in
your
mind.
C
Right
well,
and
the
other
thing
that
happens
with
this
culture
is,
is
that
it
actually
the
cult
the
divided
culture
fosters
immaturity,
because
the
from
my
definition
of
maturity
means
your
ability
to
resolve,
apparent,
dualities
right
and
to
transcend
and
include
those
two
things
in
a
common
understanding
that
would
make
it
so
that
both
of
those
things
are
both
valid,
but
also
no
longer
just
pulling
you
like,
you're
being
drawn
and
quartered.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
it's
just
you
have
to.
C
You
have
to
pull
yourself
up
and
out
of
that
and
and
create
a
kind
of
thing,
and,
and
that
is
the
process
itself
of
maturity,
of
repeating
that
over
and
over
and
over
again,
so
I
could
be
70
years
old
and
be
a
man
baby
like
we
see
in
public.
You
know
life
all
over
the
place
now,
but
you
know,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
the
culture
does
that?
And
so
we
have
the
chance
to
create
our
own
thought
culture
and
to
create
our
own.
C
You
know
make
decisions
that
are
that
are
in
fact,
mature
and
that
would
that
would
systems
that
wouldn't
enable
us
to
transcend
and
include
apparent
dualities
into
a
larger
understanding
and
recontextualize
our
lives.
And
so
a
lot
of
what
I
do
is
I
just
you
know,
flood
people
with
contacts
and
then
and
then
they're
like.
Oh,
my
god.
This
is
too
much
like,
but
you
know
I
do
that
for
a
reason,
because
I
feel
like
that
has
to
maybe
break
the
hold
of
the
decontextualized
colonized
sort
of
way
of.
B
C
B
B
B
B
But
it
was,
it
was
sweet
to
be
with
nature,
listening
to
you
and
and
experiencing
the
evolution
of
your
presentations.
That's
a
treat
to
see
to
see
the
ways
this
says.
I
remember
the
presentations
before
I
attended
my
first
graviton
training,
so
they
were
different
before
then.
Evolves
through
then
have
changed
now
and
are
now
like
this
and
are
still
changing.
So
it's
just
awesome
to
watch
these
graphics
evolve
because
that's
that's
what
happens
over
time
and
it's
beautiful
to
like
visually
see
it.
B
What's
like,
what's
been
done
to
us
by
our
environments,
right
products
of
our
environments
and
and
there's
going
to
be
so
many
different
ways
to
reach
so
many
people
and
there's
going
to
be
like
a
need
for
so
many
people
to
speak
to
these
things
in
so
many
different
ways.
So
I
just
have
a
lot
of
appreciation,
like
I
will
kind
of,
because
I'm
autistic
I'll
disassociate
a
little
bit
before
I'll
get
activated
by
you.
B
I'll
have
to
be
like
oh
shoot,
spacing
out,
hey,
you
know
like
fidget,
or
something
and
I'll
be
all
right,
but
I
don't
get
activated
by
you.
I
don't
like
want
to
disassociate
and
be
like.
Oh
my
gosh,
because
of
something
you
had
like
you,
keep
it
in
a
like
this
english
math
place
or
something
is
kind
of
what
it
feels
like
for
me.
So
I
just
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
magic
yeah.
B
Okay,
yeah
technology
is
great
right,
I'm
still
waiting
for
the
paperless
office.
So
yes,
nice
meeting,
those
amongst
you,
I
haven't
met
yet,
and
you
know
they
call
out
a
few.
I
have
so
I've
been
only
like
morning
to
learn
from
this
initiative
for
about
six
months
and
now
that
I'm
three
sessions
late,
I'm
still
hopeful.
B
So
what
what
I
wanted,
since
my
focus,
is
pretty
much
I'm
kind
of
put
my
spirituality
thing
on
hold
a
couple
of
years
ago.
As
far
as
the
active
work
kind
of
back
to
societal
and
I'm
what
I
observed
when
I
first
got
involved
was
daos
in
the
dao
stack
and
aragon
ecosystems,
but
three
years
ago,
is
that
people
kept
proposing
cause-based
political,
action-based
dows
and
they
never
ever
done
anything.
B
They
didn't
even
develop
through
the
very
initial
stages,
and
I
was
curious
about
that
that
somehow
what
those
folks
were
envisioning
and
what
dao
structures
at
the
time
offered
really
was
not
a
match,
and
lately
there's
been
this
kind
of
labeling
of
impact
does,
but
I
don't
necessarily
see
those
really
happen
either.
So
I'm
wondering
from
this
community
what
your
thoughts
are
about.
You
know
the
wants
and
the
outcomes.
C
Let's
use
it,
let's
see,
is
a
political
example.
Okay.
So
if
you
look
at
the
the
sort
of
propaganda
of
the
western
mentality
right,
the
russia
went
through
in
the
90s.
It
went
through
this
whole
glasnost
period.
Right
where
things
you
know,
we
had
democracy
showed
up
in
in
russia
and
everything,
but
it's
really
funny,
because
you
know
with
the
advent
of
vladimir
putin
and
everything
you
know
from
our
perspective,
that
was
like
30
years
of
geez.
It
must
be
nice
to
finally
be
russia
experiencing
this
kind
of
thing.
C
C
Department
wasn't
a
good
apartment,
they
had
a
car,
they
wasn't
a
good
car,
but
they
had
something.
You
know
what
I'm
saying,
but
then
then
the
the
moment
democracy
opened
up.
Then
all
the
kleptocrats
showed
up
and
took
everything,
and
there
was
nothing
left
for
any
of
them,
and
so
now
you
have
to
have
another
strong
leader
back.
You
know
in
vladimir
putin
to
put
things
right
again.
So
that's
why
you
know
that
person
has
so
so
it's
interesting
to
see
how
the
the,
if
you
look
at
it
from
the
inside
right,
the
shadow
part.
C
They
were
not
ready,
they
didn't
have
tools.
So
this
is
what
I'm
talking
about
with
my
step
two
thing
on
the
on
the
screen:
you
don't
just
jump
over
and
just
suddenly
become
a
democracy
in
russia.
They
have
no
competence
at
that.
They
have
they've
lived
for
hundreds
of
years
without
that
stuff.
You
know
I'm
saying
so,
there's
just
no
way
to
just
drop
them
into
this,
because
all
you'll
end
up
with
is
a
bunch
of
people.
Stealing
money
from
them
and
and
all
those
people
are
now
billionaires
right.
C
They
were
common
street
thugs
before,
but
now
they're
billionaires.
So
you
know
I
mean
it's
just
because
they
weren't,
given
they
weren't,
given
the
the
tools
and
the
mentality.
So
what
I'm
saying
is:
is
that
that
I
think
that's
as
true
of
of
of
dowse,
as
it
is
anything
else,
because
we
just
didn't
address
the
underlying
structural
and
and
individual
participatory
systems
that
would
evolve
that
to
make
it
so
that
democracy
was
then
viable
for
russia.
C
I
I
find
this
a
lot
in
dallas
and
even
in
a
group,
that's
just
forward
thinking
as
token
engineering
commons
there's
all
this
psychological
shadow
of
the
legacy
cultural
code
base
that
comes
with
you
and
you
have
to
have
a
system,
that's
prepared
to
handle
all
of
those
things,
and
so
that's
what
I
would
say
is
probably
if,
if
you
could,
you
know,
look
at
your
other
dows.
I
would.
C
I
would
say
that
there
is
a
a
whole
lot
of
agreement
about
the
way
in
which
you
should
go
about
this
thing,
because
a
lot
of
people
go
something's
really
wrong
and
they
go.
You
know
what
it
is.
It's
just
one
thing
and
then
let's
solve
that
one
problem
and
then
there's
like
the
real
problem
is
a
thousand
things.
C
But
you
know
you,
don't
you
don't
do
the
work
to
to
document
those
thousand
things
much
less
put
in
you
know,
systems
in
place
that
would
allow
you
to
evolve
and
subvert
and
and
and
heal
and
and
deal
with
all
of
the
those
other
999
things
right.
So
that's
what
I
you
know
what
I
find
and
that's
why
decontextualized
colonized
systems
work
so
well
is
because,
if
you,
if
nobody
knows
anything
about
themselves
or
the
systems
on
which
any
of
this
stuff
is
built,
I
mean
look
at
the
financial
system.
C
Now
the
nightmare
that
is
moving
from
the
current
financial
system
to
cryptocurrency
is
really
difficult
because
all
of
the
security
all
of
the
other
stuff
is
all
on.
You
there's
just
this
massive
learning
curve
that
you're
not
interested
in
learning
about
the
the
the
the
metaphor
I
often
use
is,
is
if
anyone's
ever
ever,
read
isaac
asimov's
the
irobot
series,
the
protagonist
in
that,
in
that
film
or
book
series,
suddenly
realizes
that
there
is
a
problem
with
the
robots,
and
the
thing
that
he
has
to
do
is
to
teach
he's.
C
Robots
have
existed
for
generations,
he
doesn't
even
know
how
to
dress
himself
anymore,
because
it's
been
done
with
the
assistance
of
robots
for
his
whole
life,
and
so
his
way
of
rebelling
against
the
system
is
to
teach
himself
how
to
dress
himself
in
the
morning
without
the
help
of
a
robot.
So
this
is
this
is
the
problem
we
are
all
in
in
the
financial
system
and
in
the
political
system
and
in
caring
for
ourselves
and
in
mental
health,
and
even
when
we
try
to
organize
away
from
these
kinds
of
things.
C
C
C
There
was
no
underlying
change
in
the
structure
of
that.
You
know
you
had
the
russian
revolution,
but
then
what
really
changed
there?
Nothing!
You
know
what
I
mean
like
like
you,
just
re
they're,
just
reproducing
the
system
with
different
people
at
the
top
of
it
right
using
different
pretexts
for
the
same
abuse
right
so
you're
calling
yourself
comrade
whatever.
But
are
you
right?
How
are
you
you're
still
above
everyone
else
right?
C
So
so
I
guess
you
know
I'm
just
pointing
out
my
my
view
of
both
intentional
communities,
which
I
have
20
years
experience
at
and
and
and
dao.
So
I
do
think
it
really
depends
on
what
your
version
of
success
is
right.
If
success
is
just,
you
know,
throw
the
bastards
out
and
you're
just
recreating
the
system.
I
don't
know
that
that's
success,
but
I
guess
we
can
all
have
different
definitions
for
that.
C
C
A
So
working
on
on
the
humans
is,
is
the
way
that
we
think
that
we
will
end
up
eventually
finding
the
best
recipe
for
these
new
institutions,
but
yeah.
It's
it's
just
an
intentional
change
that
needs
to
be
done
in
the
humans
so
that
the
technology
can
can
can
be
used
ethically
and
and
for
the
impact
and
of
the
well-being
of
humanity.
C
You
might
want
to
look
that
up
cbc
radio,
astra
taylor,
and
I
think
the
title
of
it
is
democracy-
may
not
exist,
but
we'll
miss
it
when
it's
gone,
you
know
the
way
that
I
describe
sort
of
people
talk
about
democracy
like
it's
an
object
when
in
fact
it's
a
kind
of
tensegrity
system
right,
it's
a
system.
That
means
it
maintains
itself
through
tension.
C
So
if
you,
the
metaphor,
I
always
use
is
if
you
pick
up
a
handful
of
sand
right,
if
you
squeeze
it
too
hard
like
an
authoritarian,
then
it
runs
through
the
your
fingers.
If
you
just
let
it
out
too
much,
you
know
like
an
anarchist.
Would
you
know,
then
the
sand
also
runs
to
your
fingers.
There's
a
kind
of
a
perfect
amount
of
tension
which
exists
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
the
thing.
C
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
and
that
that
changes,
because
there
are
all
the
time
pieces
of
sand
being
added
and
people
pieces
of
sand
being
being
moved
out
of
the
thing?
So
you
have
to
have
kind
of
an
appropriate
way
of
dealing
with
that
so
and-
and
this
funny
thing
is-
is
that
the
human
body
is
also
a
tedsegrity
system,
maintains
itself
against
gravity
through
through
tension
and
there's
there's
systems
that
like
ostrom.
C
But
it's
true
mentally
it's
true
societally,
it's
true
and
that's
why
I
came
down
with
this
left
and
right.
Brain
hatha
yoga
is
about
sun,
which
is
the
left
brain,
which
is
the
sun
and
left
brain
tah,
which
is
moon,
and
so
that's
you
know,
that's
the
psychology,
it's
also
physiology,
and
so
from
my
perspective,
you
need
to
stack
all
of
those
things
up
in
a
coherent
way
to
make
it
work
so
yeah
and
again
it
is
evolving
all
the
time,
but
many
of
the
forces
are
the
same.
C
So
even
if
I
evolve
and
end
up
with
six
arms.
Instead,
you
know
a
thousand
generations
from
now
gravity's
still
all
going
to
be
here.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
I'm
still
going
to
have
to
move
all
of
those
arms
in
the
same
way.
So
you
know
anyway,
so
I
hope
that's
not
too
obscure
a
metaphor,
but
are
there
any
other
questions
or
or
anything
else
bruno
I
see
you
zepta.
This
is
here
who
goes
here.
You
have
questions
or
comments.
B
Now
that,
like
is
you,
know
pretty
much
focused
on.
You
know
people
of
color,
so
a
lot
of
those
a
lot
of
those
problems
that
you
you
face
within,
like
the
community.
You
you
face
everyone
you're
gonna,
face
within
business,
but
they're.
You
know
no
matter
what
your
doubt
was
doing,
and
I
see
that
from
know
it
doesn't
even
matter
so
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
you
know
say.
Obviously
I
appreciate
everything
that
you're
doing
here.
B
You
know
everyone
who's
listening
understand
like
if
you
are
trying
to
get
a
doubt
open.
You
know
and
to
start
a
doubt,
these
things
are
extremely
important
when
it
comes
down
to
community
building,
especially
when
it's
when
it's
a
legitimate
community,
you
know
if
you
want
to
come
in
and
make
a
fake
dow
and
like
close
everything
off
and
make
everything
you
know
yeah.
That's
that's!
That's
a
lot
easier
than
what's
going
on
as
far
as
that's
why
these
things
are
so
important.
B
C
C
Caring
for
the
comments
right,
so
you
have
to
care
for
the
commons,
the
individuals
and
the
systems
all
simultaneously.
You
have
to
do
all
three
of
those
things
right.
So
it
seems
to
me
that
that
in
our
society
we
basically
we
set
up
asymmetric
systems.
That
cares
only
for
maybe
2
000
people
around
the
whole
world.
C
You
know
the
healing
the
all
of
these
things
all
simultaneously
that
just
you
know,
that's
it
unless
you're
intentional
and
that
you've
you've
you've
inventoried
the
whole
space.
You
know
about
what
it's
going
to
take
to
get
there.
It's
going
to
be
much
more
of
a
challenge,
because
that
gives
an
opening
to
the
the
extractive
abusive
side
to
either
show
up
unconsciously
within
you
and
you'll
sabotage.
C
Your
own
interests,
unconsciously,
or
I
mean
there's
just
so
many
ways
in
which
you
know
the
the
that
system
is
set
up
to
prevent
descent
or
or
anything
else
you
know.
So
it's
a
very
big
challenge,
and
so-
and
it
is
complex
right
because
life
is
complex
and
the
colonized
systems
have
had
500
years
to
set
up
these
unequal
asymmetric
systems.
You
know
for
us,
so
we
have
to
do
something
about
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
catch
all
of
the
tricks
right.