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B
So
how
who's
all
your
camera
was
connected
for
a
moment,
but
now
it's
loading.
Where
are
you
juan?
Are
you
in
paris.
A
A
C
B
A
B
A
great
day
awesome
are
there,
so
what's
the
plan
for
today,
or
it
must
be
afternoon
there
right
so
are
the
actually
is
the
conference
finished
or
is
it
still.
A
Going
yes,
yes,
no,
the
conference
is
finished
and
there's
like
an
event,
but
like
it's
been
really
hard
to
enter
and
most
of
the
people
is
in
the
line
waiting
to
like
check
so
yeah.
A
Yeah
yeah
super
interesting
topics
and
like
from
my
own
point
of
view
now
I
see
that
the
community
is
a
little
bit
more
mature
and
yeah
like
they
are,
including
more
cultural
and
governance
topics
in
in
all
the
the
the
and
legal
topics
in
all
the
the
the
conference
and
like
yeah,
even
vitalik
stock
was
like
take
away
that
much
relevance
to
defeat
because
it's
it's
not
like
the
real
purpose
of
ethereum
wow.
A
B
D
B
So
was
did,
did
the
tec
recruit
a
lot
of
did
the?
Did
you
guys
get
the
message
out.
D
A
A
But
but
I
I
think
that
in
the
next
days
we
will
for
sure
see
some
changes
in
the
hatch.
A
F
C
B
G
No,
I
had
your
user
volume
actually
set
quite
low.
Maybe
you
were
like
really
loud
one
time.
G
B
Went
for
I
went
over
to
meet
jessica
and
jeff
last
night
they're
here
in
victoria.
B
Do
just
made
dinner,
I
hung
out,
they
have
a
hot
tub,
so
we
hopped
in
the
hot
tub.
B
Yeah
really
really
nice
airbnb.
It's
it's
about
45
minutes
out
of
the
city,
it's
in
michousen,
so
it's
a
nice
sort
of
wooded
area.
They
have
a
beautiful
view
of
the
water
and
it's
nice
hanging
out
there.
So
I
just
slept
they
had
a
pullout
couch,
so
I
slept
over.
But
I
I
had
some
stuff
going
on
at
6
30
this
morning,
so
I
had
to
get
up
early,
but
it
was
the
next
like
morning,
sunrise
drive.
It
was.
It
was
quite
nice.
G
B
They're
here
for
two
weeks
really
to
they,
they
come
out.
They
have
a
long
history
out
here
on
the
west
coast,
jeff's
uncle
lives
on
one
of
the
islands.
The
gulf
islands
actually
runs
a
mushroom
farm
and
grows
richie,
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
B
So
they're
quite
familiar
with
the
area
and
they
just
wanted
to
get
out
for
a
bit.
They
they're
heading
over
to
europe
for
the
crypto
commons
gathering.
B
That
sounds
pretty
tempting,
but
honestly,
I
don't
think
so.
I
think
I
just
I
want
to
stay
here.
I
want
to
focus
on
hemp
on
hemp.
I
want
to
like
start
really
getting
involved
in
hemp
and
regenerative
agriculture.
I
just
feel
like
there's.
I
see
a
lot
around
me
in
my
network
here
like
being
activated,
and
I
want
to
just
jump
in
and
get
full
leverage
I
want
to
like
be
here
now
like
I'm
here
in
this
spot.
B
I
want
to
make
the
absolute
most
of
it
like
people
are
going
to
these
conferences
and
I'm
sure
they're
meeting,
all
the
greatest
people
and
having
all
these
life-changing
events
and
like
having
all
these
great
conversations,
but
I'm
like
I
want
to
just
achieve
that
level
of
sort
of
impact
right
here,
and
you
know
I
don't
have
to
go
to
a
conference.
I
just
need
to
be
here
and
be
focused
and
do
what
I
absolutely
need
to
be
doing.
G
I
I
think,
there's
something
to
me
yeah,
you
know
I
don't
know.
Sometimes
I
have
a
hard
time
like
leaving
the
awesome
things
I
have
going
on
you're
like
yeah.
This
could
be
good
and
I
could
like
potentially
meet
people
and
do
things
but,
like
I
don't
know,
yeah
there's
also
a
lot
of
things
that
you
can
do
kind
of
like
where
you're
at,
if
you're,
in
a
good
location,.
D
B
Yeah,
oh
exactly
that's
huge,
even
so
like
I.
I
want
to
do
a
mass
like
regenerative,
agriculture
with
bamboo
and
hemp,
but
I've
just
I'm
starting
with
one.
I've
got
one
little
bamboo
plant
here
and
I'm
like.
If
I
can't
take
care
of
this
little
guy,
then
how
can
I?
How
could
I
possibly
take
care
of
a
thousand
of
them?
You
know,
and
even
with
like
recycling
like,
I
really
am
passionate
about
like
delicately
sorting
recycling.
It's
one
of
my
big
pastimes
in
life.
B
I
really
enjoy
it
because
it's
such
a
meditation
and
it's
it's
really
nice
to
have
that
space
to
like
go
through
everything
that
you've
consumed
and,
like
you
know,
just
connect
with
it
before
it
gets
shipped
off
into
the
world
and
becomes
someone
else's
problem.
So
I
really
like
putting
maximum
intention
and
effort
into
like
my
waste,
my
personal
waste
disposal
and
I'm
like
until
I
get
this
right.
I'm
not
gonna
be
able
to
go
fix
the
world
and
get
everyone
else
to
like
do
waste
properly
right,
which
I
would
like
to
do.
G
Dude,
I'm
like
so
on
the
same
page
with
you
and
actually
like
today,
so
what
I
do,
since
costa
rica
has
like
really
poor
waste
management
systems
like
there's
nothing
happening
here.
I
I
like
doing
my
own
compost.
Okay,
that's
easy
and
then
like
with
all
my
plastics
I
make
like
bottle
bricks,
so
I
stuff
them
into
like
an
empty
bottle,
and
I
just
like
you
know
really
pack
them
in,
like
you
know
so,
for
one
month
I'll
have
like
no
probably
like
two
to
three
months.
G
I
have
like
a
gallon
that
I
kind
of
go
through
where
I
just
like.
I
pack
all
this
plastic
into
the
bottle
brick
and
I
always
like
make
it
clean,
and
then
you
can
use
those
bottle
bricks
as
like
a
foundation
to
like
pour
concrete
over
and
like
make
compost
with
it.
So
I
do
that.
I
burn
all
my
toilet
paper
and,
like
my
paper
garbage,
then
I
have
like
the
odds
and
ends
like
some
cans
and
things,
but
I
try
just
not
to
buy
that
ship
like
I.
G
Because
then
they
become
this
like
question
of
like
what
do
I
do
with
it,
and
so
like
I'm,
really
good
at
managing
my
own
waste.
I
produce
like
very,
very,
very,
very,
very
little
garbage
like
at
the
end
of
like
you
know.
Eight
months
of
being
here,
I
have
like
three
bottle
bricks
that
are
like
super
packed
and
then,
like
you
know,
like
a
little
box
full
of
my
like
a
box
of
fame
full
of
like
a
couple
of
containers
from
mushrooms
or
like
or
like
my
cans
yeah.
G
And
then
it's
like
right
now.
There's
this
like
recycling
collection
thing
happening
where
you
know
tomorrow
in
town
they're
like
collecting
everybody's
recycling
and
taking
it
away,
and
but
then
I'm
asking
I've
asked
like
four
or
five
times
like:
where
does
it
go
like?
What
are
they
doing
with
these
bottles
that
they're
collecting?
Because
a
lot
of
recycling
just
gets
put
on
like
boats,
because
they
can't
process
it
all
and
then
so
like
from
even
canada
and
the
united
states?
They
just
put
it
on
like
huge
ships
and.
G
And
then
I've
been
like
asking
all
these
people
like
what
like,
what
are
they
doing
like?
What
are
they?
Where
is
this?
Waste
going
and
people
are
just
like
not
giving
me
straight
answers
and
being
like
they're
doing
the
best
they
can
with
it?
I'm
like
what
does
that
mean
like
can't
you
be
responsible
for
your
garbage
and
not
just
like
take
this
blind
solution
of
like
oh,
send
it
away.
B
G
Definitely
so
it's
just
like
I
get
like
a
little
bit
like
I've,
been
getting
a
little
ragey
about
it
today
because,
like
my
friends
here
who
are
like
supposedly
conscious
hippies
who
care
about
the
earth
or
they're
like
they're,
just
not
they're
like
oh,
you
know
they're
doing
the
best
they
can
with
it
and
I'm
like
that's,
not
even
an
answer.
That's
not
an
answer
to
the
question
of
where
does
it
go.
G
H
B
H
G
H
H
He
wanted
to
call
results,
resources
for
solutions
or
something
like
that,
because
he
told
the
name,
management
and
conflict
was
not
the
right
one,
and
you
just
remind
me
of
this
kind
of
you
know,
concept
of
if
there
is
resources
that
if
a
conflict
is
conflict,
it's
a
research
and
then
you
just
don't
call
it
conflict,
because
it's
very
first
possibility,
and
so
just
putting
that
out
there-
that's
cool
okay,.
B
B
Right
like
killer
whales,
and
they
said
that
orcas
absolutely
do
not
respond
to
negative
reinforcement.
You
can't
punish
them,
they
said.
Actually,
if
you
punish
an
orca
whale,
it'll
literally
just
eat
you
and
that's
happened,
and
so
they
say
the
only
way
to
train
an
orca
is
to
use
strictly
positive
reinforcement
and
so
and
how
you
do
that
is
you
have
to
just
let
it
at
first
you
just
let
it
do
whatever
it
wants
and
if
it
ever
does
something
that
somewhat
closely
resembles
the
behavior
that
you'd
like
to
reinforce.
B
Then
you
reward
it,
so
you
can
only
reward
it.
You
can
never
punish
it
away
from
other
behaviors,
so
you
let
it
completely
take
its
random
path
and
as
it
moves
towards
desirable
behavior,
you
you
give
it
rewards
and
then
it'll
start
to
gravitate.
So
it's
like
a
training
environment
with
dogs.
You
can
use
negative
reinforcement,
they'll
respond
very
well
to
like
they,
they
feel
kind
of
shame
and
it
can
guide
their
behavior,
but
with
orcas
you
it
doesn't
exist
they're.
B
B
G
F
G
Yeah,
but
I
think
it's
also
cool,
because
I
thought
about
this
as
well
with
people
like
people
that
I'm
in
relationship
with
and
I'm
like.
Oh,
I
don't
really
like
when
this
thing
happens,
but
I
like
when
this
thing
happens,
and
you
know
when
you're
like
constantly
complaining
like
I
don't
do
this,
don't
do
this
oftentimes
it
like
creates,
like
a
stream
yeah
and
just
like
makes
makes
the
situation
not
feel
good.
G
G
B
Yeah
that
that's
funny
that
comes
up
actually
in
in,
like
the
world
of
token
engineering
and
just
the
other
day,
we
were
talking
about
how
you
could
sort
of
control
prices,
and
someone
was
coming
from
traditional
banking
and
they're,
like
isn't
that
market
manipulation
and
we
were
just
like
well
nowadays,
we
call
it
token
engineering,
but
you
know
it
sounds
it's
so
weighted
like
it's
bringing
all
this
baggage
from
prior
worlds
of
like.
Oh,
if
you
try
to
exercise
any
sort
of
control
over
like
dynamics
of
an
economy
or
a
market.
B
There's
this
blanket
term
of
like
hey,
that's
market
manipulation,
but
actually
it's
just
like
control
systems.
It's
it's
design
and
engineering.
It's
like
getting
the
results
that
we
wish
to
manifest
so
yeah.
This
there's
there's
a
lot
of
like
limitations
that
we
inherit
from
the
language
of
like
prior
worlds,
and
just
I
think,
stemming
from
sort
of
dominator
culture
and
colonialism,
there's
so
much
constraint
over
like
how
people
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
reduction
of
autonomy
in
traditional
systems.
B
B
Yeah,
modern
colonialism
is
everything
it's,
so
I
think
it's
like
the
problem
with
policing
too.
I
was
thinking
I
was.
I
had
this
conversation.
Oh,
I
got
to
see
jeff
and
jessica
last
night
they're
here
in
victoria.
We
we
had
dinner
together
and
this
came
up.
I
think
the
problem
with
policing
like
when
you
see
it,
especially
in
the
states
with
the
whole
black
lives
matter
movement-
is
it's
like
microcolonialism,
it's
something.
I
noticed
that
an
issue
that
was
arising.
People
were
talking
about
this.
How
typically
police
are
not
policing
their
own
community?
B
You
know
they
all
go
to
like
a
dispatch,
and
then
they
go
police
a
certain
region
and
none
of
them
actually
live
in
that
region.
So
you
you
have
these
police
officers
who
are
in
a
community
that
they're
not
from
so
it's
like
this
sort
of
micro.
They
might
be
in
the
same
city,
but
a
different
region
within
the
city
that
they're
policing.
So
it's
kind
of
like
a
micro
colonialism.
H
There
is
a
reasoning
for
that.
Most
of
the
times
is
that
only
in
the
state,
during
panama,
when
poor
people
only
have
two
options
as
a
job,
you
are
either
a
teacher
or
either
you
are
a
police.
So
the
reason
here
is:
if
poor
people
who
wearing
gangs
are
young,
become
part
of
the
police.
They
then
just
reinforce
the
bad
behavior
in
their
own
neighborhood.
So.
H
Sent
at
least
in
panama,
they
are
sent
away
from
their
own
neighborhood
to
prevent
them
to
sort
of
exercise
controlled
and
corruption
over
their
own
neighborhoods.
So
yeah,
it's.
I,
I
think
the
context
of
this.
F
H
Of
thing
that
you
mentioned
racism
and
and
all
this
stuff,
I
think
it's
it's
harsh,
because
it's
a
human
behavior
that
it's
tricky
to
kind
of
deconstruct
in
a
way
that
it's
authority
and
thoroughly
will
always
be
conflicted.
Fighting
it
doesn't
matter
if
it's
poor
middle
class
white
black,
it's
just
conflicting
with
human
nature,.
G
B
Yeah,
I
think,
bigger
picture
thinking
is
really
important
for
this
community.
It's
so
easy
for
people
to
get
stuck
in
sort
of
tunnel
vision
and
forget
that
everything
that
we're
producing
is
has
so
much
value
like
almost
infinite
value,
because
it
can
be
reused
and
repurposed
in
so
many
different
places
to
solve.
This
is
just
the
first
instance.
This
is
like
training
grounds.
This
is
training
level,
zero,
yeah.
G
Like
the
picture
is
too
big
and
I
don't
know
getting
caught
into
the
details
and
it
becomes
like
challenging
to
like
I
mean
sometimes
I
feel
like
really
motivated
and
then
there's
so
many
different
things.
I
want
to
get
involved
with.
I'm.
B
Yeah,
that's
a
very
zen
state
of
mind,
like
being
in
harmony
with
all
the
moving
pieces,
because
that
can
be
overwhelming
trying
like
seeing
all
these
places
that
you
might
need
to
be
or
be
aware
of.
It's
I
think
ever
I
think
we're
all
familiar
with
that
feeling
of
like
whoa
and
just
like
getting
way
overwhelmed
in
a
moment.
But
it's
such
a
sort
of
zen
practice
to
just
like,
be
to
just
accept
and
be
like
yep
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and
I've
signed.
B
You
know
all
of
us
can
say
like
wow
we've
signed
up
for
a
lot.
You
know
you
and
me
get
interested
in
all
these
new
emerging
opportunities,
and
I
definitely
over
subscribe
myself,
often
which
I've
been
reversing.
I've
been
reversed
trying
in
theory,
I've
been
reversing
that
like
trying
to
make
space
instead
of
give
up
space-
and
my
I
know
that
I
have
to
be
meditating
every
day,
pretty
much
I
feel
like.
B
If
I
can
achieve
that,
then
I've
created
the
space
in
my
life
just
because
that's
sort
of
the
the
proof
of
like
yep
I've
created
space
like
I
have
time
to
just
sit
and
do
nothing
else,
and
I
think
if
I
can
get
into
that
sort
of
flow,
which
I
have
definitely
been
dipping
my
toes
in
then
I'm
then
then
I'll
be
in
like
this
nice
sort
of
equilibrium,
sort
of
balance,
state.
G
Totally,
I
know
honestly,
I
I'm
like
really
really
in
some
ways
like
very
reliant,
like
my
emotional
well-being,
my
general
overall
well-being
is
really
reliant
on
my
ability
to
take
space
and
time
for
like
spiritual
practice
and
like
movement
and
meditation
like
yoga
and
like
sitting
and
like
some
balance
of
both
or
even
if
I
just
like.
Even
if
I
like
do
yoga,
but
I
mostly
lay
down.
B
Yeah
so
like
I,
I
definitely
I
bake
every
day.
I
definitely
engage
in
spiritual
practice,
but
a
lot
of
like
fiery
like
active,
like
solar,
like
I
run
so
I
go
run
through
the
city
and
for
me
that's
a
spiritual
practice
like
the
breathing
of
it
and
just
sort
of
the
trance
state
of
mind
and
the
physical
exertion
and
exhaustion
I
love
being
in
exhaustion
spaces.
B
So
for
me
that
that's
a
very
spiritual
practice-
and
I
can
I
get
those
in
like
every
day,
but
it's
the
balance,
the
opposite
end
of
the
spectrum,
the
sitting
and
the
being
still
that
I
actually
find
a
harder
it's
more
difficult,
because
I'm
very
driven
honestly,
I
don't.
I
have
like
an
addictive
personality
and
I
use
that
to
drive
me
to
get
to
places
and
to
show
up
and
to
be
passionate.
Like
I
get
addicted
to
work,
I
get
addicted
to
running
right,
and
so
I
kind
of
yeah.
E
B
B
So
I
get
myself
hooked
on
the
work
that
I
want
to
be
working
on
or
the
product
that
I
want
to
be
producing
or
the,
but
it's
hard
there's
some
things
that
don't
have
that,
like
physiological
hook,
for
example,
when
I
eat
an
apple,
I
feel
amazing
afterwards,
like
if
I
wake
up
in
the
morning
and
like
drink
some
lemon
water
and
eat
an
apple.
I
just
feel
amazing,
but
it's
completely
non-addictive.
B
F
B
I
get
a
little
bit
out
of
balance
with
leveraging
that,
like
almost
I
almost
train
speaking
of
training,
I
almost
train
my
brain,
like
I
fix
the
dopamine
attractive
receptors
to
like
pull
me
into
the
places
I
need
to
be,
but
almost
to
a
to
it
being
a
crutch.
You
know
so
so
that's
that's!
The
sitting
still
is
the
opposite.
End
of
that
spectrum,
like
sitting
still,
is
not
addictive,
even
though
it
can
lead
to
like
immense
pleasure
and
immersion
and
bliss.
G
Yeah,
definitely
I
mean
yes,
I
I
kind
of
agree
like
I
think
it's
true,
I
think
like
coffee
is
definitely
like.
Physiologically
addictive
and
people
like
lots
of
people,
even
myself
like.
If
I
have
you
know,
I
don't
almost
never
drink
coffee,
but
once
in
a
while,
I
do
once
like
I'll,
have
one
coffee
and
be
like
that
was
great,
like
special
treat
and
then
the
next
day
I
kind
of
want
it
and
then
like
and
then
I
have
it
two
days
and
then
it's
like
the
third
day.
I
kind
of
need
it
yeah.
G
See
this
like
distinct
like
but,
like
I
don't
know,
you
use
lemon
water
as
an
example
which
is
like
kind
of
funny.
You
don't
feel
like
in
the
morning
this
like
physiological
pull
to
like
have
lemon
water,
and
it's
definitely
not
for
me
the
same
pull
as
coffee,
but
I've
had
lemon
water
in
the
morning
every
day
for,
like
the
majority
of
my
out
well,
basically
my
whole
adult
life
like
when
did
I.
G
G
G
Yeah
and
same
with
yoga,
I
practice
yoga
like
every
day
and
it's
so
for
me
like
like
this
morning,
I
was
like
laying
in
bed
and
feeling
grumpy
about
something,
and
then
I
went
on
my
phone
and
I
started
looking
at
like
different
yoga
practices
on
on
gaia
tv,
and
I
found
one
and
I
started
listening
to
it
and
I'm
like
oh,
my
god.
It
sounds
so
good
like
I
was
like
like.
I
was
like.
The
practice
of
self-love
is
about
like
getting
grounded
in
your
center
like
yeah.
Yes,.
I
G
F
G
And
I'm
like
really
addicted
to
that
feeling.
Good
and
I
don't
know
I
think,
like
maybe
most
people,
probably
people
more
often
like
people
other
than
me,
have
had
more
tendency
to
kind
of
like
indulge
in
things
that
are
like
not
good
for
them
but
like
it
like
kind
of
makes
them
feel
good
for
a
minute
or
something
like
that.
But
it's
never
been
my
tendency
like
I've,
never
smoked
and,
like
I
don't
know,
people
who
smoke.
Why
did
you
even
start
that
I
always
thought
it
was.
F
G
G
B
Hello
show
off
some
sweet
footage
of
paris
and
then
drop
it.
J
I
B
Like
why
why
people
make
decisions
that
make
them
not
feel
good?
In
fact
it's
so
common,
it's
like
a
majority.
You
know
like
alcohol,
culture
and
cigarette
smoking
like
why.
How
do
people
start
that?
You
know
it's
like
where
at
what
point?
And
why
are
people,
and
we
all
do
it
even
lauren,
I'm
sure
at
some.
B
G
Yeah
and
we're
also
talking
about
well,
actually
it
kind
of
started
because
john
was
saying
he
doesn't
feel
like
a
physiological
like
pull
or
attraction
to
some
things
like
having
lamb
and
water
in
the
morning,
and
I
was
like
I
do
I
wake
up
in
the
morning
and
I'm
like
I
want
that
lemon
water,
so
bad.
J
Okay,
I
don't
know
why
I
don't
understand,
like
did
you
guys
ever
listen
to
like
eckhart
tolle
and
the
pain
bodies
on
the
pain
body,
stuff.
B
B
J
J
J
Whether
or
not
it's
true
but
just
to
be
able
to
separate
yourself
and
be
like
that's
not
me,
okay,
bacteria,
like
I'm
getting
this
craving
for
something
I
don't
want
it's
the
bacteria
you
know,
and
these
kind
of
these
kinds
of
framings
and
points,
because
why
are
we
doing?
I
don't
know
if
it's
even
important
to
understand
you
know
I'm
not
as
much
of
a
researcher
as
an
engineer,
I
want
to
call
the
phone
you
know,
and
so
it's
like
well,
what
does
it
take
to
solve
the
problem.
G
F
G
Like
yeah,
it's
the
truth,
it's
the
truth,
and
it
like
confirms
this
thing
in
my
ego
that
like
doesn't
feel
good,
but
in
a
way
feels
good,
because
it's
like
that
confirmation.
It's
just
like
this,
like
ego
confirmation-
and
I
think
that,
like
I
don't
know
as
we
kind
of
like
grow
and
get
over
some
of
our,
then
we
can
kind
of
like
get
over
our
our
tendency
to
look
for
scenarios
that
are
like
confirming
our
like
negative
self
stories.
B
And
and
the
awareness,
so
that
sounds
like
what
eckhart
tolle
is
getting
to
like
the
utility
of
of
stillness
and
space
and
quietness
to
like
notice
those
really
subtle,
sensations
that
emerge
instead
of
reacting
to
them.
It's
funny,
because
I
was
just
reading
his
his
book
on
stillness.
Oh,
I
got
to
go
for
dinner
last
night
with
jess
and
and
jeff
they're
here
in
victoria.
B
In
the
hot
tub
it
was
tons
of
fun.
Oh
yeah,.
B
Yep
exactly
yep
last
night
I
went
over
to
their
place.
It
was
my
first
time
seeing
jessica
in
person
it's
kind
of
trippy.
I
would
say
it's
trippy
like
getting
to
know
someone
so
deeply,
and
for
so
long
and
like
you
know
I've,
I
I
meet
with
jessica
a
lot
online
like
at
least
every
week.
We
end
up
hopping
in
the
same
call
and
kind
of
and
face
to
face.
You
know
video
calls
it
there.
It's
it's
really
approaching
reality.
B
Almost
like
you
know,
video
calls
today
are
pretty
realistic,
it's
almost
like
being
in
person,
and
so
it
was
just
really
a
trippy
sensation
to
see
jessica
in
in
the
flesh.
B
I
was
really
reflecting
on
that,
especially
as
we
move
towards
like
vr
and
things
like
I'm
and
younger
generations,
who
are
just
growing
up
now,
especially
in
covid,
where,
like
life
is
online,
it's
going
to
be
interesting
how
people
form
like
really
deep
relationships
over
the
internet
and
then
having
the
experience
of
meeting
physically,
but
but
it's
kind
of
cool,
because
it's
like
we
have
multiple
worlds.
Now
like
you
can
be.
K
G
Yeah
yeah,
I
wish
I
got
to
meet
more
people
this
way
so
that
I
could
have
like
more
points
of
reference
and
experience.
Oh
yeah,
I
don't
know
like
it's
always
something
strange
like
it
was
really
like
interesting
and
strange
to
meet
you
griff
when
you
came
because
it
was
like.
Oh
I
don't
know,
you
were
definitely
taller
than
I
thought,
but
different
something
different.
Something
feels
different.
I
don't
know,
and
so
it's
just
I
don't
know
it's
just
really
interesting.
I
think
there's
like
the
computer
looks
very
realistic.
J
J
K
E
K
G
B
Yeah
yeah,
something
I
like
to
think
about
is
that
you
know
we're
we're
all
relatively
young
here
like
we
all
should
have
quite
a
few
decades
ahead
of
us
in
our
lifetimes,
so,
like
all
the
future
projects
that
are
gonna
unfold
and
all
the
different
relationships
and
and
physical
spaces
that
are
gonna
be
shared,
like
especially
with
with
the
dawn
of
like
eco
villages,
and
all
this
just,
I
think,
there's
gonna
be
really
interesting
spaces
to
house
this
kind
of
network
coming
coming
along
in
the
future,
and
it's
gonna
be
awesome
to
like
co-operate
different
like
eco
villages
and
and
things
like
that,
physical
spaces.
K
B
J
B
Yep,
I
think
about
that
a
lot
I
think
about
that.
A
lot
it
I
think
of
it
as
like,
an
engine
that
needs
to
be
started
like
the
gifting
economy
works
when
it's
when
it's
when
there
you
get
full
circulation
when
enough
people
are
engaged,
there's
actually
a
good
article,
someone
shared
with
me.
It
was
called
three
types
of
people,
givers
takers
and
then
there's
like
a
neutral
archetype.
But
you
there's
people
live
in
three
different
ways:
some
people
are
their
mindset
that
their
subconscious
is
about.
B
B
And
if
there's
this
thing
that
happens
where,
if
you
have
a
network
of
people
where
everyone
is
a
giver,
then
it
sort
of
engages
and
the
gifting
economy,
just
it
it
initializes
and
it
gets
the
momentum
that
it
needs
and
you
get
this
sort
of
gifting
economy,
and
so
I
think
it'll
be
really
hard
to
like
burning
man.
Just
does
that
perfectly
it
it's.
B
It
turns
on
the
engine
of
gifting
and
gets
everyone
baked
into
that
that
mindset
and
if
we
could
achieve
that
on
a
global
scale,
it
would
be
like
infinite
abundance,
but
but
even
on
local
skills.
You
know.
D
J
J
B
Definitely
and
I've
seen
similar
things
at
festivals
here
in
canada,
like
there's,
one
called
shambhala,
which
is
you
know,
not
not
exactly
like
burning
man
but
actually
there's
a
lot
of
smaller
burning
man.
B
If,
if,
if
any
impose,
you
know,
there's
like
maybe
10
rules
as
you
as
you
enter,
and
that
just
is
these
initial
conditions
and
people
enter
with
those
intentions
and
they
just
there's
this
automatic
emergence
of
flow,
and
everyone
is
just
in
flow,
and
it's
this
like
harmonious
anarchy,
where
everyone
just
ends
up
wanting
to
take
care
of
each
other
and
support
each
other.
So
I've
seen
how
those
systems
can
emerge.
B
The
thing
is:
they're
they've
been
proven
now
in
these,
like
non-persistent
environments,
so
like
burning
man,
pops
up
like
a
flower
and
lasts,
you
know
a
week
or
a
couple
weeks
or
there's
preparation
time,
but
it's
it's!
It's
temporary
and
shambles.
B
Yes,
yes,
and-
and
that's
cool
I
mean
that's
like
nature-
I
mean
flowers
are
temporary,
lifetimes
are
temporary,
so
so
that's
good,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
the
people
in
our
networks
are
thinking
about
like
how
do
we
pull
that
more
into
persistence?
So
we
get
like
a
persistent
gifting
economy
that
that
can
continuously
thrive.
You
know.
J
I
mean
yeah,
like
you
said
it
needs
critical
mass
like,
unfortunately,
to
compete
with
our
complex
society.
It's
like
you
know.
People
want
everything
like
burning
man's
amazing,
there's
battery
stores.
You
know
and
they'll
just
give
you
a
battery.
Obviously,
there's
countless
bars,
there's
countless
bicycles,
shops,
there's
medical
centers
everywhere,
everyone's
a
volunteer.
You
know,
like
anything,
you
need.
It
exists
because
it's
a
70,
000
person,
event.
F
J
000
people
is
big
enough.
It's
the
third
largest
city
in
nevada,
when
it
happens
and
nevada
is
pretty
huge.
You
know
it's
not
like
a
tiny
spot.
So
let's
say,
although
it
doesn't
have
a
huge
population,
but
like
it's
a
it's
just
it's
a
small
city,
and
it's
so
like
it
has
those
same
things
that
small
city
would
have,
but.
J
G
Yeah,
but
you
can
have
pieces
of
it,
maybe
not
like
I
at
least
like
hear
where
I'm
living
like
the
community
is
such
that,
like
everybody,
supports
each
other,
and
so
it's
like
kind
of
no
matter
how
much
money
or
resource
that
you
actually
have.
You
can
always
be
kind
of
like
taken
care
of
in
a
basic
way.
There's
lots
of
places
you
could
just
stay
and
sleep
lots
of
people
will
just
give
you
love
and
food,
and-
and
so
it's
not
like
a
full
gifting
economy
where
it's
like.
G
I
got
you
and
it's
like
this
for
everybody
and
that's
so
so
nice,
and
so
it's
like
really
great
to
like
get
like,
even
just
a
small
community
of
like
relatively
like
conscious
people
living
together
in
a
similar
area
and
then
supporting
each
other,
and
I
don't
even
know
all
the
people.
But
it's
it's
cool.
It's
possible.
I
think
like
we
can
do
it
iteratively
and
like
in
smaller
scales
and
then
like
and
then
upscale
them
and
yeah.
J
Yeah
something
you
said
ygg
reminded
me
of.
I
can't
even
remember
what
it
was
at
this
point,
because
we
tangented
like
a
couple
times,
but
it
reminded
me
of
this,
the
my
favorite
tracker
of
the
dollar
king,
which
is
I
like.
B
J
And
I
think
it
was
something
about
like
a
lot
of
having
like
just
these
ten
principles.
J
Letting
go
of
the
rest
and
just
like
letting
the
anarchy
kind
of
take
over
and
this
this
actually
this.
This
was
like
back
in
the
days
of
the
dao
that
the
vidal
wasn't
supposed
to
be
called.
It
was
supposed
to
be
that
the
dao
would
name
itself
once
it
got
its
governments
going.
Those
things
were
named,
something
and
one
of.
B
J
J
The
more
prohibitions
you
have,
the
less
virtuous
people
will
be
the
more
weapons
you
have.
The
less
secure
people
will
be
the
more
subsidies
you
have,
the
less
self-reliant
people
will
be.
Therefore
the
master
says
I
let
go
of
the
law
and
people
become
honest.
I
let
go
of
economics
and
people
become
prosperous.
J
B
J
Yeah,
I
didn't
even
put
it
into
google
one
five
doubt
I
think.
Oh.
J
B
J
Oh
nice
yeah.
I
love
that
thing.
It's
also.
It's
also
like
there's
a
lot
of
translations
of
it
of
this
chapter
and
like
I
love
this,
but
then
I
cruise
and
looked
at
like
seven
different
translations-
and
this
was
my
favorite.
J
G
Well
were
here
and
and
then
and
me,
and
then
they
were
like
crystal
we're,
having
a
community
call
but
he's
not
here
and
then
like
zephy
left
and
wonka
stayed.
Then
I
left,
and
I
saw
wonka
and
shawn
were
in
here
so
I
jumped
back
in
and
then
wonka
laughed
and
eduardo
came
and
then
he
laughed
and
then
you
came
chewie
showed.
J
J
E
J
J
F
J
K
J
I'm
excited
for
the
next
one
too.
I
hope
you
guys
can
escape
for
the
next
one.
I
don't
know
when
it
will
be-
probably
not
anytime
soon.
Honestly
about
this
event,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
get
covered
and
they'll
probably
a
theory
we'll
be
too
scared
too,
like
it's
like
this
again.
B
J
B
That's
going
to
be
a
big
deal.
Are
you
going
to
go
to
that?
No,
I
don't.
I
don't
think
so.
I'm
I'm
tempted
hanging
out
with
jess
and
jeff
last
night.
It
sounds
incredible,
but
no.
I
just
feel
this
call
right
now
to
stay.
Put.
I
just
that's
been
hard
for
me
all
my
life,
I'm
like
a
super
nomadic
person,
but
right
now
it's
so
clear
that
I
just
need
to
be
in
one
place.
J
B
J
J
Cool
well,
I
should
probably
get
back
to
the
party.
You
guys
want
to
see
it.
J
J
Oh,
it
was
a
nice
little
sunset
community
car.
B
Yeah,
it
all
starts
with
the
sun.
I
got
into
that
conversation
with
z
today.
Actually
he
was.
He
was
talking
about
the
the
proposal
inverter
and
how
it's
like
a
it.
It
facilitates
the
flow
of
energy
throughout
the
whole
ecosystem
of
taos
and
he's
like
it's
just
like
the
sun
hitting
the
earth
as
like
the
initial
energy
input,
and
then
all
the
downstream
life
that
gets
formed
from
that,
which
is
beautiful,
z,
just
puts
me
into
a
trance
when
he's
talking.