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A
A
So
well,
let
me
introduce
myself.
I
am
gramma
community
manager
from
brando
and
yeah.
We
we're
here
me
and
lata
here
to
to
hear
more
about
like
what
you
guys
are
doing
and
get
to
know
you
and
touch
base
with
this
and
the
proposal.
Inverter
thing
and
yeah.
That's
pretty
much
it
hey,
I'm
I'm
really!
Sorry.
What
dow
did
you
say
you're
from
april
prime
farm,
though
yeah.
B
Awesome
thanks
gamma
thanks
for
that
introduction
and
welcome
it's
nice
to
see
so
many
new
faces,
jumping
in
the
lab.
That's
really
exciting,
always
good
to
see
so
looks
like
this
is
kind
of
like
the
prime
dow
squad
jumping
in
maybe
ata
de
genta
and
merced.
I
think
you
guys
are
all
new
here
as
well.
Maybe
just
a
quick
introduction.
C
Sure,
hello,
everyone,
I'm
mata,
also
from
primedaw,
I'm
mostly
involved
there
with
the
dot
dot
platform.
Prime
deals
that
we
are
developing
and
I'm
helping
there
with
like
business
development,
potential
partnerships
and
potential
like
new
data
interaction
modules
which
proposedly
murder,
hopefully
I'll,
be
one
of
them,
and
I'm
particularly
excited
about
this-
to
create,
like
a
funding
mechanism
for
multiple
dolls,
to
come
together
and
support,
open
research,
support,
new
projects,
new
grants,
new
grant
structures,
etc.
That's
helped
the
custom.
A
So
it's
smart.
I've
been
hanging
around
in
tech
discord
for
some
time,
but
I
mostly
supported
omega
working
group.
I
was
mostly
participating
in
it,
but
since
the
proposal
inventor
and
dow
to
dao
collaborations
are
interesting
for
me,
like
I'd
like
to
learn
and
work
more
on
it,
so
I
participated.
Love
working
group
called
as
well,
so
looking
forward
to
learn
and
work
more
on
those
stuff.
B
A
A
B
A
Yeah
hi
hi
guys.
My
name
is
nikita
and
I've
recently
joined
the
token
engineering
community
because
I'm
trying
to
develop
a
project,
I've
kind
of
written,
a
white
paper
and
it's
about
what
it
entails.
That
allows
people
to
invest
in
non-profit
organizations
and
make
a
profit
out
of
it.
But
in
a
different
way
to
the
the
commons.
A
The
commons
lab
it's
more
of
a
more
of
a
we're
in
the
commons
lab,
but
it
will
relies
on
altruism
in
the
sense
that
the
asset
that
is
correlated
to
a
sort
of
project
doesn't
necessarily
go
up
in
value.
If
that
project
makes
progress
in
real
life
in
my
project,
the
progress
in
real
life
would
actually
translate
to
economic
value
in
or
inside
the
asset,
which
represents
it.
B
A
It's
obvious
when
you
have
shares
the
dividends
provided
from
those
shares,
there's
a
lot
of
things
which
go
into
that.
Let's
say
future
cash
flows
as
well
as
future
growth,
but
we
don't
have
the
same.
We
can't
we
don't
have
a
bridge
from
the
profit
to
the
non-profit,
which
is
what
I'm
trying
to
do.
I'm
trying
to
build
that
kind
of
layer.
B
A
B
A
A
I
mean
that's
what
I'm
working
on,
but
my
background
is
more
economics,
entrepreneurship
and,
as
well
as
I've
learned
a
lot
about
crypto
incentive
design,
but
the
actual
core,
mathematics
and
the
modeling.
I
don't
really
have
experience
in,
which
is
why
I'm
really
trying
to
bolster
that
side
of
things
through
this
community.
B
D
A
A
Yeah
so
I
joined
pretty
recently,
I've
been
just
helping
out
with
somebody
review
around
the
tc
dashboard
and
my
skill
set
is
around,
I
guess,
similar
to
actually
to
nick
the
product
product
management.
I
was
previously
a
chief
product
officer
at
am
series
a
series
b
fintech
in
in
london
prior
to
that
I
built
a
company
in
the
space,
so
we
were
in
the
kind
of
nft
decent
space.
A
B
A
B
Okay,
thanks
for
that
also
thanks
everyone.
I
everyone
else.
I
think
we've
seen
at
least
a
few
times
before
in
the
labs.
So
we'll
that's
perfect,
so
I
think
everyone's
introduced
now
I
always
start
the
same
way
just
a
reminder.
So
I've
got
my
screen
share
going
and
but
it's
the
labs
is
a
very
participatory
environment.
B
Sometimes
it's
a
bit
more
seminar,
lecture
based,
but
often
it's
more
like
collaboration,
parallel
development.
You
know
co
co-research,
this
kind
of
stuff,
so
I
always
like
to
start
off
with
just
a
reminder
that
if
you
go
up
to
the
labs
channel,
the
labs
text,
text
channel
and
discord
here
and
you
open
up
the
pinned
messages,
then
it's
the
second
one.
B
A
B
So,
in
addition
to
the
new
people
we'll
just
this
is
good
to
do-
I
like
to
have
the
data
set
here.
So
actually
I'll
just
fill
this
in.
So
everyone
try
to
make
your
way
to
the
agenda
so
that
you
have
access
to
this.
You
can
like
bookmark
it,
but
it's
always
accessible
through
the
pinned
channels
as
well,
so
feel
free
to
fill
in
your
name.
If
you
beat
me
to
it,.
B
No,
that's.
I
haven't
been
doing
that
I've
just
been
using
this
one,
the
dock,
but
we
could
reconcile
those,
but
because
we
took
the
labs
took
a
break
for
like
a
couple
months
and
then
we
got
back
here
so
we're
not
using
all
the
same
systems
as
before
good.
So
the
agenda
for
today
is
to
focus,
since
we
have
some
guests
from
prime
dow
we're
going
to
be
focusing
on
the
proposal
inverter,
which
we
had
set
down
for
a
couple
sessions.
B
B
B
C
B
On
the
proposal
inverted
model,
okay,
so
let's
say
we
have
45
minutes.
So
maybe
each
of
these
things
takes
about
15
15
minutes
and
if,
if
it's
less
than
that's
fine,
we
can
definitely
fill
space
at
the
end
talking
about
next
steps,
so
I
think
I'll
invite
gamma
and
ata
to
go
ahead
and
talk
a
bit
about
the
dow
to
dao
work
coming
out
of
prime
dao
and
yeah.
If
you
guys
want
to
take
that
in
any
direction,
maybe
go
through.
C
C
There
are
like
certain,
like
modules,
protocols
that
facilitate
these
interactions,
such
as
token
swaps,
that
allow
two
dollars
to
swap
tokens
on
chain
with,
like
customized
resting
schedules,
etc
to
align
incentives.
We
are
working
on
giving
the
ability
to
douse
to
create
a
methadone
like
a
common
ghost,
safe
multisig
wallets,
which
they
can
use
for
rice
purposes.
C
B
Thanks
ada,
I
think
that's
a
wonderful
introduction
to
the
proposal.
Inverter
and
and
prime
dao's
general
sort
of
belief
in
the
interactions
of
dow
to
dao.
Like
you
know,
I've
been
a
lot
of
people
have
been
telling
me
lately
focus
on
the.
Why
not
the
how
not
the
how
or
the
what-
and
I
think
you
did
that-
well,
because
this
just
shows
how,
if
there's
something
good
to
be
built,
this
enables
it
to
get
funding,
because
any
dow
can
tap
in
and
become
a
part
of
that.
B
B
B
It's
more
just
contribution
to
the
ecosystem,
but
they
can
take
those
funds
and
do
you
know
do
what
they
want
with
them.
So
so
there's
the
token
swap
model.
So
this
this
can
be
modeled
as
well.
There's
there's
various
components
that
are
all
sort
of
interacting
here
in
the
prime
dow
dow
to
dow
mechanism.
B
So
I
think
it's
this
to
me
just
feels
like
a
great
opportunity
for
this
sort
of
interactive
collaborative
development
between
here,
like
here
in
the
token
engineering,
commons
and,
of
course,
prime
dao,
putting
out
these
ideas
and
then
long
tail,
financial,
there's
a
lot
of
ltf
sort
of
token
engineers
and
developers
in
in
here
and
then
block
science
providing
advisory.
So
I
just
think
it's
beautiful
how
the
ecosystem
is
coming
together
to
build
up
these
components,
and
I
really
like
what
prime
dow
has
done
in
putting
together
this
document.
B
So
this
is
a
nice
spec
for
the
token
swaps,
which
could
very
well
be
modeled
and
I'll
just
quickly
bring
up
here's
the
proposal
and
maybe
I'll
review
this
a
little
bit
quickly
in
a
couple
minutes.
But
we'll
just
start
with
github
commons
build
and
proposal
inverter,
because
I
just
want
to
show
what
we
had
to
start
out
with
which
was
done
by
dr
zargham
in
terms
of
specifications,
so
so
this
is
what
we
have
started
on
as
in
terms
of
a
spec.
B
B
The
parameters
that
can
be
set
on
a
proposal
are
the
minimum
stake,
the
length
of
an
epoch,
the
minimum
number
of
epochs
allocations
per
epoch.
This
is
almost
like
the
salary
that
workers
get
paid,
the
minimum
time
horizon
the
minimum
number
of
brokers
and
the
maximum
number
of
brokers
and
the
sort
of
state
transition.
B
B
Yeah
broker
is
a
worker,
so
in
that
diagram
that
we
were
just
seeing,
I
think
in
here
so
a
broker
is
at
the
bottom.
So
in
this
case
jeff
livia
pat
are
brokers.
Otherwise
I
you
know
broker
is
the
standard
term,
so
we're
going
to
go
with
that,
but
usually
I
I
actually
say
worker.
I
feel
like
that's
a
bit
more
clear,
they're,
providing
the
work
and
the
dowser
funding
the
work.
So
those
are
the
brokers.
B
Yeah,
so
those
are
the
brokers,
there's
also
payers,
so
one
of
these
there's
an
owner.
So
there
needs
to
be
some
like
dow
that
actually
initializes
the
proposal
inverter
like
mechanism,
so
that's
called
the
owner,
so
one
of
the
payers
is
also
going
to
be
the
owner
and
then
other
payers
can
also
join.
B
A
B
Well,
I've
I've
imagined
it
as
like
a
homogeneous
like
just
one
token,
so,
maybe
and
we'll
see
if
this
is
comes
up
in
our
models.
Maybe
we
want
to
make
this
a
part
of
our
model
because
there's
sort
of
this
transition
from
specification,
design
to
modeling
and
then
to
actual
development
and
deployment
and
there's
there's
different
levels
of
details
that
arise
in
those
three
different
stages,
but
the
more
that
you
can
capture
in
your
modeling
the
easier
it's
going
to
be
in
the
development,
development
and
deployment.
B
B
B
And
then
I
guess
the
other
sort
of
okay.
So
all
the
all
the
references
are
here,
I
think
so
we
have
the
working
repository,
hack,
md
file
and
the
specs,
so
this
could
be
cleaned
up
a
little
bit.
I
guess
I
think
the
most
important
thing
that
you
want
to
make
sure
you
can
access,
is
the
github
repository
and
there's
also
a
manifesto
which
could
oh
yeah.
So
this
is
actually
where
we
divided
up
the
work
for
the
proposal.
Inverter
model
development.
B
Adding
documentation
throughout
the
model
we'll
see
that
when
we
look
at
the
actual
model,
yeah
just
rounding
out
all
the
parameters
and
states
of
the
specification
and
then
building
out
the
models
themselves.
So-
and
this
has
shifted
a
little
bit-
owners
payers,
brokers,
the
proposal,
inverter
object
and
the
synthetic
state
change.
Honestly.
Most
of
the
things
that
I
signed
up
for
were
actually
done
by
austin
and
taz.
B
B
So
I
think
that's
really
like
everything
that
we
saw
in
this
document,
so
we
are
definitely
really
excited
to
set
up
collaboration
space
and
I
was
going
to
get
to
this
at
the
end.
But
I'll
just
mention
this
now.
I
almost
feel
like
we
might
want
to
duplicate
this
space
that
we
have
so
right
now
we're
in
the
tec
lab
every
friday
at
this
time.
It's
for
one
hour.
I
think
it
might
be
really
interesting
to
make
another
session
another
hour
block
in
the
week.
B
C
Well,
basically,
I
think
the
where
prime,
though
might
get
involved
here,
is
at
the
ui
side
of
development,
which
I
think
will
require
some
time
until
we
reach
there.
The
way,
like
prime,
that
works
is
through
funding
groups
of
like
squads
or
groups
of
people
that
are
focusing
on
different
products,
different
size
of
products
etc.
C
B
Okay,
excellent
now
and
a
note
on
that
is
that
in
these
labs
I
think
we
did
about
a
five
or
six
week
series
on
the
proposal
inverter.
So
we
actually
have
it
modeled
out
and
we
are
at
this
time
there
is
a
new
research
series
opening
which
is
reward
systems.
So
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
reward
systems,
research
in
the
labs
here,
so
it
won't
necessarily
be
proposal.
Inverter,
focused
or
doubt
to
dow
focus
that
we
could
come
back
to
that
in
the
future.
B
But
we
do
have
about
a
six
week
series
planned
out
now
for
opening
up
rewards
systems.
It's
it's
dow
reward
systems,
so
definitely
relevant.
So
definitely
stick
around
in
the
labs
and
and
act
as
a
bridge.
But
if
we
want
to
do
a
lot
of
sort
of
modeling
and
simulation
on
dow
to
dao
ecosystems
and
the
prime
dow
dow
deals
infrastructure.
B
We
we
kind
of
we
don't
have
the
space
in
these
tec
labs
like
at
least
kind
of
for
the
fall.
We
could
come
back
to
it
in
the
spring,
which
isn't
there's
nothing
on
the
schedule
yet
for
the
spring,
but
but
yeah.
So
in
these
research
sessions,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
reward
systems,
research
happening
for
the
fall,
and
I
really
like
what
you
said.
We
can
come
to
you.
B
Have
these
models
very
much?
If
you
follow
the
tec,
we
put
out
these
sort
of
dashboards
parameter
dashboards
so
that
anyone
can
go
and
configure
the
parameters
of
the
dow
the
parameters
of
the
hatch
and
see
what
that
looks
like
and
how
that
changes.
The
initial
conditions
and
things
like
that.
So
this
is
what
we
want
to
provide
for
the
dow
to
dao
development
happening
and
that's
that's
what
is
contained
in
the.
C
Yeah,
okay,
my
bad,
like
I
I'm
actually
like
super
down,
but
new
like
another
hour
like
a
workshop
hours
specifically
focused
on
proposing
murder.
I
just
wanted
to
fly
there.
That's
like
we
won't
have
too
many
people
from
prime
delta
team
emol
in
those
workshops,
although
we
should
have
those
workshops
and
we
will
have
like
sinking
sessions,
I'm
just
saying
like
the
proposed
inverters,
the
building
will
mostly
fall
on
the
shoulders
of
this
group
or,
like
you
know,
whatever
group
yeah.
B
C
B
D
D
And
we
have
a
small
broker
agreement
class
here
and
that's
just
to
store
the
information
about
each
of
the
workers
like
when
they
joined
and
whenever
they
want
to
claim
the
amount
of
funds
that
they've
made
from
working
on
working
on
whatever
project
it
is
and
for
the
proposal
inverter.
We
have
all
of
the
variables
that
were
specified
in
the
dock
in
the
the
hackmd
dock
and
we
have
we
implemented
all
of
the
functions
that
were
specified
there
right.
D
D
What
funds
have
been
allocated,
the
current
horizon
and
how
many
epochs
we
have
funding
left
to
yeah
and
then
a
pay
function
in
which
the
dows
can
increase
the
amount
of
funds
to
keep
the
proposal
going
longer
and
the
cancel
function
which
it
just
stops
all
of
the
of
the
iteration
and
then
allocates
the
rest
of
the
funds
to
whoever
has
put
a
stake
into
the
proposal.
So
it
splits
it
returns.
The
stake
back
to
all
of
the
brokers
who
are
in
the
proposal
and
splits
up
the
remaining
funds
to
those
workers.
D
Yeah,
so
if,
if
you
want
more
information
on
all
of
the
functions,
I
think
the
the
hackmd
explains
it
pretty
well
and
like
there's
a
nice
diagram
that
shows
the
flow
of
funds
and
a
bit
more
detail
on
each
of
the
functions
that
we've
implemented
and
the
purpose
of
each
of
the.
In
each
of
each
of
the
actions.
D
Okay,
so
let's
go
through
this
claim,
so
this
is
a
test
where
we
first
deploy
the
proposal
inverter.
So
we
have
an
owner,
they
have
some
funds
and
when
they
deploy,
they
allocate
some
funds
to
the
proposal
inverter
and
then
we
create
a
broker
with
some
number
of
funds,
and
here
we
are
adding
a
broker
and
they're
staking
50.
D
D
So
that
means
the
inverter
loses
100
and
then
the
broker
gains
one
100
right
and
then
this
is
just
the
additional
test
where
we're
adding
another
broker
and
they're
adding
another
50
and
we're
going
through
another
10
epochs.
And
then
we
we're
doing
the
same
thing.
We
take
we're
letting
each
of
the
brokers
claim
their
funds
and
then
checking
that
they
have
the
right
amount.
D
Okay,
so
this
is
somewhat
similar,
we're
just
testing
the
removal,
so
we
we're
setting
up
the
same
way.
The
owner
has
funds
and
we're
deploying
the
inverter
with
500
funds.
We
have
two
brokers,
each
of
them
are
staking
100,
so
that
means
the
invariant
fund
should
be
700,
and
then
we
have
the
max.
We
have
the
minimum
number
of
epochs
as
28.
D
So
that
means,
if
we
iterate
to
30
epochs,
then
they
should
be
over
the
minimum
number
of
epochs,
and
so
when
they
make
their
claims
when
they
make
their
claims
and
they're
removed
from
the
when
they're
removed
from
the
proposal.
That
means
that
they
should
get
their
claim
funds,
as
well
as
their
stake
back.
D
B
B
Do
a
little
review
with
the
prime
down
team
here,
gamma
and
and
ada
we
can
just
talk,
have
a
very
kind
of
precise
conversation
about
submitting
the
proposal
that's
been
submitted
and
and
also
how
modeling
can
be
complementary
to
the
development
team.
So
we
can
join
the
you
know.
Anyone
interested
in
working
on
this
modeling
can,
of
course,
join
the
the
sinks,
the
dow
to
dow
sinks
and
yeah.
B
B
They
can
see
how
all
the
methods
were
produced,
how
they
function
and
how
they're
used
in
a
simulation.
I
think
that's
helpful
documentation
for
the
developers
who
are
then
putting
that
into
smart
contracts,
and
additionally,
it
allows
us
to
run
simulations
on
the
ecosystem.
We
can
say
hey
what
would
happen
if
10
000
new
brokers
came
in
one
day
and
were
looking
for
work
or
what
happens
if
there
was
a
proposal
inverter
that
was
paying
out
a
thousand,
and
I
mean
you
could
even
test
a
sort
of
from
an
economics
perspective.
B
You
could
test
agent
behavior,
so
you
could
program
in
behavior
into
the
agents,
say
what,
if
brokers,
were
only
willing
to
work
for
a
a
continuous
payment
that
was
greater
than
you
know,
a
thousand
dollars
a
month
or
something?
And-
and
we
can
now
that
we
have
these
object-oriented
models,
we
can
just
mix
and
match
them
and
combine
them
into
greater
and
greater
simulations
where
we
start
to
simulate
more
components
together
and
then
that's
where
the
really
interesting
stuff
comes
out
is
like
the
interactions
between
the
components.
B
If
you
have
a
joint
venture
module
and
you
have
a
proposal,
inverter
module
and
you
have
some
agents
in
the
system
who
can
use
either
of
those.
And
then
you
can
program
logic
into
those
agents
and
see
how
the
system
unfolds.
So
I
think
that
this
has
been
brought
up
a
lot
here
in
the
tec.
Labs
and
sort
of
with
the
common
stack
is
a
need
for
like
a
library
of
models
that
can
then
be
mixed
and
matched
and
plugged
together
and
simulated
for
their
the
second
order
effects
of
like
their
interactions.
B
So
so
that's
what
we're
trying
to
get
to
there,
and
I
guess
I
I
don't
need
to
talk
so
much.
Maybe
we
can
do
a
round,
maybe
not
not.
Everyone
has
to
say
anything
if,
if
you're
just
kind
of
observing-
but
I
think
there's
at
least
six
or
seven
people
in
here
who
have
been
pretty
involved
in
either
the
modeling
or
coming
from
the
prime
dow
side.
So
maybe
we
can
all
just
say
a
few
words
on
what
we
see
as
next
steps.
B
A
A
Yeah,
I'm
not
quite
aware
about
the
recent
progress
so,
but
still
like
looking
at
today's
work,
I
think
we
should
should
have
like
a
b
testing
kind
of
thing,
with
cat
cat,
probably
to
like
further
model
out
and
churn
out,
maybe
all
possibilities
if
that's
required,
but
yeah.
I
think
if
sean
can
say
more
about
that,
if
that's,
if
that
idea
is
like
required
or
not.
B
A
A
B
A
C
We
talk
about
more
of
the
details
of
the
mechanics,
it's
so
big
to
hear
that,
like
you
guys
already
in
a
way
like
map
the
whole
like
modules,
but
I
feel
like
we
need
to
also
talk
and
clarify
certain
mechanical
questions
such
as
how
how
does
depositing
funds
work?
What
kind
of
like
can
we
support
multiple
tokens
etc?
C
And
I
also
think
by
bringing
up,
I
will
chat
with
our
prime
deals
team,
but
I
want
to
see
if
we
can
bring
a
project
manager
from
there
to
also
help
us
create
a
roadmap
where
we
have
the
you
know:
design,
testings,
contract
development,
auditing
process,
ui
design,
etc
integrated
into
our
next
steps.
We
have
a
clear
understanding
of
how
to
reach
the
finalization
stage,
but
overall,
like
I'm
super
excited
about
this,
I'm
actually
going
to
have
a
call
with
a
git
coin.
C
In
two
minutes,
because
I
I
met
some
of
them
in
m
condemner
and
was
talking
to
them
about
proposed
inverters.
They
were
pretty
much
excited
about
this,
so
you
will
see
what
we
can
do
together.
They
might
also
co-fund
it.
They
might
also
send
some
people
from
their
team
to
us
how
this
can
be
implemented
to
bitcoin's
own
funding
modules,
but
in
the
end
I
think
it
feels
like
it's
time
to
for
us
to
create
a
proposed
inverted
chat.
B
A
Awesome
yeah,
let
me
know
if
you
need
anything
like
getting
the
word
out
or
like
some
of
the
designs
or
create
creative,
some
educational
content
over
this.
I
can
help
this
and
wow
I'm
really
impressed
with,
like
all
the
progress
you
might
have
made
so
far.
I
I
didn't
know
it
was
so
advanced
in
this
and
I
really
proud
of
everyone.
I
want
to
praise
all
of
you
so
yeah,
that's
it
for
my
site,
oh
yeah,
when,
when
it's
ready
for
user
testing,
I
would
love
to
test.
B
Awesome
thanks
so
much
gamma
and
ata
from
joining
joining
from
prime
dav.
That's
wonderful
to
have
you
guys
here
and
for
all
the
new
faces
so
good
to
see
so
many
new
people
joining
in
the
labs.
I
hope
we
keep
getting
more
new
people
every
week
and
so
that's
the
top
of
the
hour.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
joining
labs
every
week
at
the
same
time.
So
stick
it
in
your
calendar
at
the
tec,
calendar
and
I'll,
see
you
next
week
and
have
a
good
weekend.
Everyone.