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00:00 - Intentions and distractions
04:58 - Agenda
05:35 - Forum post
18:53 - Hacking hatch document
55:43 - Closing
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A
Moving
forward
with
each
one
of
us,
I
don't
know,
I
would
start.
Let's
see
anyone
has
special
questions,
do
they
wanna
they
wanna
go
over
or
we
just
go
within
with
the
distractions
and
intentions.
The
regular
one
I'll
just
show
it
with
my.
My
intentions
is
to
make
sure
that
everyone
that
has
not
gone
through
that
document.
Well,
both
those
that
have
gone,
have
a
clear
picture.
Understanding
of
of
our
strategy
legal
terms
and
those
that
have
not
can
give
us
their
feedback.
A
So
in
future
presentations
we
will
try
to
be
as
clear
as
possible
and
keep
going
with
with
the
document
that
we
started
before
christmas,
and
I
don't
have
any
distractions
except
for
it's
freezing
cold
here,
and
I
hope
that
the
heater
starts
warming.
B
A
C
Frozen
for
a
second,
but
I'm
here,
I'm
back
yeah.
My
intentions
are
pretty
much
the
same
as
santi.
I
love
this
idea
of
us
going
into
the
dock
and
making
sure
anya
and
lawrence
especially
have
a
chance
to
just
read
it
and
and
make
comments
and
vote
ideally
and
then
yeah.
I
love.
I
love
getting
the
the
hatch.
The
hatch
terms
are
probably
the
first,
our
the
next
big
deliverable,
so
a
work
session
sounds
pretty
nice
and
I'll
pass
it
to
anya.
B
All
right,
you
guys
hear
me
well,
my
distraction
is
an
art
project
that
just
got
its
wings
kind
of
it's
really
kicking
off
and
it's
still
on
my
mind
partially.
So
that's
a
huge
distraction.
They
are
looking
into
tokenization
and
we
are
having
a
cooperative
being
established
next
week.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
bit
of
a
reverse
situation,
because
usually
we
start
with
the
tokens
and
we
tell
the
tokens
platforms
and
then
only
thinking
about
the
legal
structure,
but
here
it's
going
to
be
the
opposite
situation.
B
So
that's
on
my
mind
and
that's
destruction.
The
intention
wish
everybody
a
happy
new
year,
long
time
no
see
kind
of
and
to
yeah
dig
into
the
document.
I'm
sorry,
I
wasn't
really.
On
top
of
the
whole
thing,
I'm
having
a
huge
promo
right
now,
because
I
see
a
lot
of
messages
and
I
haven't
really
been
spending
a
lot
of
time
with
the
documents.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
reserve
some
more
time
for
that,
maybe
more
than
you
know,
one
to
three
hours
per
week.
B
C
Lawrence
you're
still
muted,
if
you,
if
you're
there
I
was,
I
was
trying
to
talk
to
lawrence
earlier
and
he
wasn't
talking.
So
I'm
not
sure
we
can.
We
can
go
to
craig,
hey
craig.
D
It's
so
bizarre
right
like
so
I
met
I'm
now,
not
at
my
house
and
I'm
hot
spotting,
my
phone
to
my
laptop
and
it's
working
at
my
home,
two
gigs
down
a
gig
up
and
anyways.
D
E
You
correct
my
intention
for
the
call
is
like
yeah
still
being
synchronized
and
have
a
better
understanding.
What's
everything
going
on
in
legal
and
distractions
yeah,
my
internet
is
not
working
as
well
as
it
should
be,
but
yeah.
A
Oh,
he
just
went
down,
so
we
will
start
without
him.
Hopefully
he
might
be
able
to
recreate
so
the
the
idea
for
today
was
especially
for
those
that
have
not
had
a
chance
to
go
over
to
you
guys
have
the
agenda
in
the
agenda.
There
is
the
link,
let
me
see
if
I
can
share
it
here
if
it
works.
Finally,
let's
see.
A
All
right,
okay,
new
year,
new
new
tools
anyway,
the
this
is
the
post
that
we
created
during
christmas,
basically
going
over
the
legal
strategy
that
we
are
going
to
be
setting
up
for
the
launching
of
the
of
the
hatch
while
of
the
whole
process.
This.
A
Process,
legal,
wise
and
there's
there's
been
at
the
at
the
bottom
of
the
of
the
of
the
post,
the
supporting
so
we
we
require
everyone
to
go
over
it
and
and
give
us
give
us
their
feedback.
So
I
would
love
to
for
those
who
have
read
it.
Give
give
us
your
feedback.
Is
it
understandable?
Is
it
clear?
A
Do
you
think
it
needs
some
more
detailed
explanations
in
in
one
or
another
area
and
for
those
who
have
not
if
they
can
just
go
ahead
and
read
it
it's
not
too
long
and
and
give
give
us
your
feedback,
because
it's
it's
very
important
for
us
to
make
sure
that
everyone
that
goes
over
this
documentation
has
a
clear
understanding
of
the
process
that
we
are
going
to
be
putting
together
so
wants
to
start.
I
know
griff
you.
You
have
a
clear
idea
of
what
it
is
because
you
were
riding
in
with
me.
A
I
don't
know.
Maybe
craig
can
can
go,
go
first,.
D
A
All
right,
I
don't
know,
I
cannot
see
the
screen,
I
don't,
even
if
dr
lau
was
able
to
hook
again
or.
C
No
it's
funny
because
he
made
a
comment
in
in
the
actual,
like
t
legal
thing
right
at
the
beginning
of
the
call,
but
now
he's
gone.
I
I
I
can
just
say
like
you.
B
C
I
think
I
think
it
does
a
pretty
good
job
there's.
Obviously,
a
lot
of
detail.
That's
left
out,
like
there
was
kind
of
a
request
to
really
go
into
the
common
stacks
role
in
this
in
this
document,
and
then
we
kind
of
only
at
the
end
of
it
there's
just
like
one
line
for
a
few
other
pieces.
That
probably
could
be
more
fleshed
out,
but
I
think
it's
okay
like
just
to
be
there
for
like
someone
to
have
enough
information
to
say
this
is
good
or
bad
and
I'll
pass
it
to
libya.
G
A
So
my
my
thoughts
I
have,
I
have
a
clear
understanding
because
we
were
working
on
this
document
for
quite
a
while,
giving
it
some
iterations
between
grief,
jessica
and
myself,
but
I
have
the
feeling
there
is
a
lot
of
information
and
and
although
it
shows
a
clear
picture
of
the
process,
I
have
the
feeling
that
it
may
be
too
much
information
for
someone
who's
jumping
into
this
document
for
the
first
time
and
but
it's
a
personal
feeling,
that's
why
I'm
I'm
willing
to
hear
your
your
points
and
your
your
your
inputs
here
on
on
the
document
I
know
I
know
legal
is
something
most
of
people
who
is
not
used
to
doesn't
feel
comfortable
with
and
and
my
idea
is
to
try
to
make
you
know
these
kind
of
documents
and
information
as
smooth
as
possible
for
everyone.
F
E
There
is
many
words
I
they
will
have
to
me,
but
for
me
it
was
understable
because
since
I
was
coming
to
the
the
meetings
and
everything
it
helped
me
a
lot,
but
overall
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
me,
because
I
like
some
vocabulary
or
understanding
some
things,
but
overall
I
think
it
was
understable
and
especially
it
helped
me
a
lot
to
come
to
the
meetings.
A
Good,
maybe
we
can
go
with
craig
and
get
his.
G
B
B
What
is
pretty
useful,
at
least
that's
what
I've
seen
with
at
least
three
associations
and
cooperatives
here,
is
to
highlight
a
list
of
all
the
benefits
and
all
the
obligations
that
members
get
once
they
become
members.
It
clarifies
it
very
easily
because
all
the
rest
is
basically
procedural,
but
you
know
having
the
access
to
a
specific
platform
or
getting
newsletters
or
participating
in
different
calls
or
getting
notifications
about
different
events.
B
We
always
laugh
because
there
is
a
one
of
the
associations
is
like
the
oldest
one,
and
it
has
a
lot
of
members,
but
every
time
people
join
the
telegram.
For
example,
they
always
ask
what
are
the
benefits
of
becoming
a
member,
because
it's
like
20
20
bucks.
You
have
to
pay
for
becoming
a
member,
and
then
the
president
always
goes
mad
asking
well.
Have
you
ever
asked
what
your
obligations
are?
Everybody
just
asked:
what
did
I
get?
B
What
did
I
get,
but
nobody
is
really
interested
in
the
obligations,
so
that's
always
something
that
is
going
to
be
out
there,
and
I
see
that
people
are
having
questions
about
that
too.
B
I
would
love
to
help
you
in
a
way,
because
that's
what
I
kind
of
do
or
love
to
to
dig
into
to
to
see,
for
example,
from
a
legal
point
of
view,
how
the
token
engineering
might
influence
the
or
be
influenced
by
the
regulation.
B
So
if
there's
you
know
an
interest
or
a
need
for
that,
I
would
love
to
dig
deeper
into
that
and
then
read
swedish
association.
I
see
that
there
is
like
a
mentioning
of
terms
and
conditions,
but
perhaps
it
would
be
useful
to
get
rid
of
the
legalese
to
get
rid
of
the
legal
angle
so
to
translate
it
so
that
it
becomes
understandable
to
whomever
goes
through
those
terms.
A
C
B
C
B
I'm
in
one
of
the
groups
looking
for
it
now,
it's
actually
a
pinned
message
in
a
telegram
group.
So
it's
more
like
just
like
almost
like
a
to-do
list
or
something
like
that.
C
And
lawrence
you
came
back,
are
you
able
to
say
anything.
A
Great,
so
if
you
can,
whenever
you
can
give
us
an
example
of
of
that,
if
you
find
it,
anya
that'd
be
great
and
I
think
that's
a
good
input,
because
I
agree
and
and
probably
septimus
was
expressing,
that
people
who's
not
used
to
go
over
legal
documentation,
it's
much
easier
for
them
to
just
check.
You
know
the
basic
benefits
and
obligations
of
becoming
or
joining
or
or
you
know,
or
being
being
a
member
and
just
reviewing
those
is
more
than
enough.
A
B
Yeah
I
copy
it
in
the,
but
it's
not
it's
not
the
whole
message.
I
don't
know
why
I
didn't
copy
it
am.
I.
C
C
B
This
message
is
actually
being
crafted.
Is
a
guy
basically
says
in
this
year,
which
is
now
ending?
This
is
what
happened,
and
I
wish
every
member
to
be
part
of
our
yearly
events,
then
what
he
hopes
to
achieve
and
then
what
he
wants
to
actually
compensate
the
members
with,
for
you
know,
providing
the
membership
fee,
and
then
he
names
other
important
links
and
then
points
out
what
the
who
the
partners
are
and
what
they
can
actually
get
from
the
partners
from
the
partnering
organizations.
B
So
and
plus
there
was
a
game
organized
for
all
the
members,
so
he
basically
just
went
through
all
the
things
that
members
are
getting
straight
forward
and
described
all
every
of
the
partners
and
put
some
links
down
for
the
partners.
A
Yeah,
that
sounds
great.
I
think
it's
a
great
way
to
to
real
quick,
get
a
clear
picture
of
what
you
are
entering
into
if
you
join
so
we're
gonna
have
to
work
on
that.
On
that,
that's
that's
great.
I
think
we
can.
A
We
can
move
forward
after
after
this,
this
initial
point
and-
and
my
idea
was
to
jump
into
the
document
that
we
started
just
before
christmas-
that
we
started
hacking
together
from
ng
to
try
to
get
into
something
similar
for
the
terms
whenever
a
hatcher
is
intending
to
purchase
token
engineering,
commons
tokens
when
we
have
the
that
that
the
doubt
of
the
first
out
hatching
down
working
so
grief,
can
you
can
you
share
that
document?
A
C
A
Yeah,
it's
showing
the
right
screen
and
it's
it's
a
link
right.
There
yeah.
A
I
think
you
have
to
scroll
down
all
the
way
down
till
there's
this
other
type,
where
all
the
yeah
a
little
bit
yeah
over
there,
no
scroll
down
scroll
down.
A
C
But
these
are
comments,
so
you
can
leave
them
because
we
gotta.
C
B
B
C
You
love
it,
but
you
want
to
delete
it.
B
A
F
C
B
B
I
agree
if
I
actually
think
that
this
this
paragraph
that
we're
amending
right
now
should
be
ordered
with
abcd
blah
blah
blah,
because
above
we
have
abc,
I
think
b
actually
ends
with
your,
which
should
be
of
the
c
point
or
what
you're
asked
at
staked
in
dec
style
and
or
in
any
of
these.
The
dye
bridge.
You
see
we're
reading.
B
A
B
C
B
A
C
C
I
sort
of
want
to
start
at
the
top
and,
if
that's
okay
with
you
santi.
A
A
C
B
I
mean
yeah
if
it's
the
constitutional
document
with
which
we
only
emerge
or
come
into
existence.
It's
still
still
a
very
valid
term
valid
way
to
go
about,
but
I
would
go
through
the
whole
documents
just
to
make
sure
that
we
are
consistent
with
how
we
use
the
we
and
who
we
are
representing
when
we
say
that.
F
C
C
C
C
C
A
There's
a
slight
difference
between
the
hajj,
dao
and
and
the
final,
which
is
the
one
that
everyone's
going
to
be
able
to
join
if
they
want
to,
and
I
think
we
we
got,
we
got
to
keep
that
clear
when
writing
the
document
and
when
thinking
on
the
on
the
terms
of
the
document,
because
the
hajj.
C
A
Look
at
this
right,
I
agree,
but
those
who
are
on
the
text
on
the
tech
hatch
won't
be
the
same
group
that
will
be
on
the
final
dial.
Some
of
them
will,
but
some
of
them
won't.
So
there's
like
there's
like
two
groups.
One
group
is
the
the
the
hajj
out
group
and
then
there's
the
final
dial
where
the
hajj
group
below
is
is
also
a
group
of
that.
But
there
is
also
the
the
externals.
A
C
A
Well,
let's
leave
it
like
this
and
let's
give
it
some
thoughts
after
afterwards,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
legal,
wise.
C
I
I
I
I
would
still
say
we
should
have
an
intention
and
it
be
explicit,
at
least
honestly,
I'm
in
the
argonne
court
document
right
where
they're
like
okay.
This
is
what
we're
gonna
do
you
know,
and
this
is
the
purpose
right
this
is
our
intent-
is
to
settle
disputes.
C
It's
not
to
it's,
not
the
how
but
the
there's
like.
Basically,
what
is
the?
Why?
Why
are
people
joining
it's
not
so
that
they
can
upgrade
to
a
commons?
You
know:
well,
maybe
some
of
them
right.
Some
people
are
like
yeah,
I'm.
Actually
I
don't
care
about
te
public
goods,
but
I
like
the
common
system,
and
I
want
to
apply
it
to
something,
but.
B
Maybe
we
now
write
the
terms
and
conditions
for
tech,
hatch
and
then,
whenever
we
actually
go
on
to
the
global
level,
we
change
the
terms
and
conditions.
G
A
A
A
B
Just
to
be
sure,
have
you
the
public
goods
using
that
nomenclature?
Is
that
actually,
like
has
been?
Has
it
been
tested
anywhere
else?
Sometimes
the
public
goods
are
actually
like,
subject
to
specific
legislation.
C
B
I
mean
here
depending
on
what
type
of
a
public
good
it
is,
but
sometimes
there
would
be
specific
rules
and
there
are
specific
agencies
that
are
having
the
rights
to
manage
to
govern
those
public
goods,
even
though
they
should
be
accessible
to
everybody,
like
the
maintenance,
for
example,
is
trusted
to
a
specific
person.
So
I'm
just
putting
it
out
there.
A
B
Yeah,
I
was
actually
thinking
about
just
using
the
term
commons,
because
it's
much
less
it's
less
yeah
yeah.
It
allows
it's
yeah.
The
vagueness
of
it
allows
for
numerous
interpretations
so.
B
A
We
have,
you
know
we
have
a
brother
meaning
with
that.
B
I
mean
I,
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
changed
right
now,
I'm
just
asking
because
right
now
how
you
have
it
is
public
goods
in
the
token
engineering
field.
So
it's
a
very
like
lake
specialist,
it's
a
very
specific
public
good,
which
we
kind
of
define
as
probably
good
in
token
engineering
field.
So
it's
quite
clear
that
this
is
not
the
usual
public
goods
that
you
know
a
country
or
a
nation
state
would
actually
demand
to
be
arranged.
Somehow
it's
not.
A
Yeah,
there's
a
good
there's,
an
interesting
point
that
dr
lau
lawrence
brings
into
the
table,
which
is
the
difference
on
on
between
eu
states
between
donating
and
and
the
deductions
the
tax
deductions
on
on
donating,
and
this
brings
to
me
the
what
what
what
what
may
happen.
If
we,
because
we're
not
considering
this
to
be
a
donation
right.
A
Right,
okay,
and
if
it's
not
a
donation,
which
I
understand,
it's
not
whatever
happens
to
the
token
you
know,
everyone
will
have
to
deal
with
it
twice
in
terms
of
taxation
and
that's
that's
that's
it.
C
Yeah
I
mean
when
you
put
money
in
the
hatch.
Now
you
get
tokens
that
you
claim
to
apportion
to
those
funds
once
it
hits
the
min
goal.
You
lose
your
claim
to
those
funds,
a
portion
of
those
funds
because
you're,
diluted
and
and
there's
also
the
hatch
percent,
the
hatch
tribute
percent
or
whatever
we
call
it.
I
can't
remember
what
it's
called
in
the
code
base.
Yeah.
C
C
G
B
I'm
trying
to
understand
this
better
because
it's
pretty
much
just
like
I
invest
something
in
a
bitcoin
and
then
the
price
goes
up
and
I
divest
so
I
take
the
money
out.
I
put
it
on
my
bank
account
and
then
the
question
is
whether
this
is
actually
a
taxable
event
or
not,
and
according
to
what
value
it's
going
to
be
taxed.
A
And
the
selling
price
and
it'll
be
on
your
on
your
hand,
to
provide
those
inputs
to
the
tax
declaration
and
and,
and
you
know,
show
them
off
if
they,
if
you
have
an
inspection
later
on,
it's
just.
B
All
right,
so
that
then
depends
really
on
state
to
state,
because
here,
for
example,
you
don't
really
have
to
declare
the
exchange
of
the
currency
itself,
but
as
the
tax
authority
is
going
to
see
that
you
know
you
might
be
withdrawing
from
the
exchange.
A
large
amount
of
money,
then
they're
going
to
give
you
a
call,
and
you
will
have
to
declare
or
provide
some
evidence
about.
B
How
did
you
gain
the
money?
And
if
you
don't
have
the
source
information,
then
this
might
actually
be
hugely
vastly
taxed.
But
this
is
from
the
dao
point
of
view.
This
is
actually
putting
the
responsibility
on
the
shoulder
of
each
individual.
That
actually
does
that.
So
this
needs
to
be
very
specifically
defined
in
the
liabilities
or
the
responsibilities
in
the
terms,
because
it
needs
to
be
very
clear
that
the
dao
is
not
going
to
be
responsible
for
any
tax
events,
for
whatever
is
happening.
Individuals
are
taking
that
responsibility
into
their
own
hands.
B
A
Well,
yeah,
I
I
see-
and
I
I
agree
completely
that
but
there's
one
point
that
the
lawrence
is
bringing,
which
is
that
the
tokens
are
treated
as
pro
as
property.
But
if
you
trade.
A
A
A
That
it's
upon
the
investor
or
the
user,
the
hatcher
to
deal
with
their
own
taxation
on
their
own
country.
And
it's
not
that's
not
any
anything
that
the
tech
has
to
do
with
absolutely.
But.
C
C
C
B
There
is
these
financial
passports,
but
now
we're
this
is
complex,
because
one
thing
is
to
bear
the
responsibility
for
financial
reporting
and
for
taxation
as
the
dao
as
an
organization.
B
I
don't
know
if
there
is
any
password
that
would
be
global.
I
know
that,
for
example,
you
can
get
a
license
or
you
can
get
sort
of
a
password
in
one
of
the
european
countries,
and
then
you
should
be
able
to
make
the
same
statement
or
same
explanation
to
whichever
eu
country
that
same
explanation
is
not
going
to
be
valid
in
front
of
the
u.s
authorities.
B
E
A
But
but
it's
it's
beyond
it's
beyond
the
organization.
B
The
only
thing
that
actually
pertains
to
the
organization
itself
is
this
is
going
to
be
a
product
paint
and
it's
not
going
to
be
a
donation.
How,
then,
is
it
going
to
be
perceived?
I
mean
we
know
it's
not
a
security,
we
know
it's,
it's
not
a
donation.
Memberships
here,
for
example,
are
not
taxed,
and
so
this
is
pretty
much
going
to
be
a
membership
fee
and
then
how
this
membership
is
going
to
be
distributed
throughout
the
organization.
B
So,
for
example,
a
part
goes
into
the
obligatory
reserves
and
then
another
part
goes
into
something
else.
That's
internal
stuff!
That's
how
the
organization
spends
the
most.
A
Well,
we'll
definitely
have
to
give
it
some
thoughts.
I
would
suggest.
Of
course
we
are
on
the
first
iterations
of
the
document,
and
we
will
have
to
keep
moving
forward
and
have
some
discussions
once
once
we
we're
almost
done
with
that.
A
I
think
we
just
made
it
to
the
hour.
It's
been
a
again
a
great
session.
I
would
love
if,
if
we
can
asynchronous.
A
A
A
And
beyond
that,
I
would
love
anya
if
you
can
bring
an
example
of
overweight
matrix
for
next
friday.
So
you
can
look
at
that
and
we'll
definitely
look
at
those
those
links
that
you
shared
with
the
with
the
obligations
and
benefits.
So
we
can
have
a
slightly
much
better
structure
for
future
communications
on
on
legal
stuff.