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Timecodes:
00:00 - Question of the day: What do you enjoy the most at TEC?
07:03 - Agenda
07:23 - Gravity process
17:42 - Donations vs grants
21:00 - Taxes and documentation
30:00 - Modification of services
31:26 - Data retention
33:37 - Prohibited conduct
46:42 - Celeste demo
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A
All
right,
let's
just
let's
start,
I
have
a
different
question
today
and
let's
see
whoever
joins
later,
we
can
post
it.
I
would
like
to
ask
from
your
experience
with
the
token
engineering
commons
so
far
what
is
making
you
enjoy
the
most
from
from
everything
that
that
you've
been
involved
with
and
I'll
go
first.
A
I
like
the
thursday
calls,
especially
when
there's
a
new
new
news,
pumping
up
like
like
yesterday
with
the
news
of
the
of
the
demo,
seeing
how
how
the
project
is
evolving.
It's
it's
very
nice
and
very
interesting,
and
I
also
like
those
calls,
because
we
have
a
chance
to
thank
everyone
and
and
get
a
quick
update
of
of
what
what's
going
on
on
the
different
areas
of
the
of
the
project.
You
want
to
go
next.
Ivy.
B
Sure
so
I
don't
always,
I
don't
usually
join
the
thursday
calls,
but
I
always
watch
it
because
I
wish
phrases
so
I
can
say
that's
also
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
enjoying
in
cec,
because
I
can
get
updates
just
listening
and
just
listening
to
the
phrases.
I
can
have
an
idea
already
what
everybody
is
doing
and
yeah.
I
can
feel
the
gratitude
culture
when
people
are
dishing
crazy.
So
that's
one
thing:
I've
been
enjoying
a
lot
and
yeah.
I
think
that's
it
and
I
pass
it
to
you.
B
C
Excitedly
you
know
I
haven't
been
around
to
ec
that
long,
but
I
I
have
to
say
what
I
enjoy
is
just
the
seemingly
relentless
progress
that's
being
made
on
on
so
many
different
areas
at
one
time.
I
think
it's
a
sign
of
a
really
mature
community
that
that
so
many
concurrent
projects
are
kind
of
being
pushed
forward
at
the
same
time,
whether
it's
the
demo
or
gravity
or
or
whatever
the
case
is
so
it's
it's
very
impressive
back
to
you,
sanji.
A
D
In
general,
just
like
the
people-
I
it's
really
really
nice.
I
feel,
like
we've
collected
a
a
group
of
people
that
I
mean,
I
think
the
gratitude
culture
helps
a
lot
like
ivy
said,
but
also,
I
just
think
we
have
you
know
because
of
the
mission
and
the
goals
we
have
in
the
crypto
space.
You
know,
there's
usually
so
many
people
that
are
just
looking
for
number
go
up
and
trying
to
make
money
and
in
the
tc
community,
that's
not
really
there.
D
It's
it's
like
people
who
really
want
to
see
some
kind
of
change
and
and
do
things
in
a
different
way,
and
you
know
build
some
something
real
and
create
value
and
yeah.
It's
just
it's
really
nice
to
hang
out
with
people
like.
I
I
feel
like
the
tc
is
all
my
friends
now
you
know
like
and
that
kind
of
environment
is
really.
D
F
Hey
gracias,
chewie!
Well,
I'm
glad
I
have
I
had
time
time
to
think
about
this,
because
there
were
so
many
amazing
things
that
I
I
would
say
that
is
sense
of
belonging
to
something
bigger
because,
like
I
see
a
reality
in
my
country,
that
is
like
really
really
sad
and
like
the
being
here,
gives
me
a
lot
of
hope
into
like
bringing
new
ideas
into
the
world,
changing
institutions
providing
value
and
yeah
that
that
it's
like
super
motivating
for
me
and
also
I
I.
F
I
am
glad
that
I
I
think
that
I
found
a
place
because
I
have
had
like
I
have
shared
my
idea,
but
like
no,
no
one
really
got
the
idea
or
the
essence
behind
it,
and
I
really
feel
that
this
community,
like
embraced
it
and
like
powered
it
to
involved
in
and
all
the
other
projects
that
are
happening
so
yeah,
and
I
learned
a
lot.
So
I
am
super
supe
super
happy
about
the
experience
that
I
had
in
the
tvc.
A
A
I
think
I
remember
I
remember
that
at
the
very
end
of
the
document
we
were,
or
we
suggested
that
juan
carlos
would
take
a
look
at
it
here
at
the
very
end,
describing
I
think,
yeah
describing
the
gravity
process
here
on
on
this
on
this
area,
and
that
was
just
about
that.
I
can
think
of
that.
What
is
missing
is
that
is
that
sean.
G
A
F
A
F
G
C
My
first
impression
is,
I
think
it
looks
pretty
good.
I
might
want
to
just
take
a
little
closer
look
at
it.
After
we
get
off
the
call,
it
might
be
worthwhile
having
a
link
where
we
talk
about
celeste,
so
that
there
is
some
you
know
further
discussion
of
it.
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
here,
but
since
this
is,
you
know
we
talked
about
this
before.
C
There's
there's
the
kind
of
documents
where
we
can
expect
people
to
come
to
it
with
a
certain
amount
of
sophistication,
because
they've
been
involved
in
the
process.
So,
like
the
hatch
documents,
you
know,
we
don't
have
to
necessarily
define
every
use
of
the
term
or
whatever
working
group
is
about,
because
there's
a
sort
of
collective
knowledge
of
a
community,
especially
community.
That
doesn't
really
exist
yet
or
is
you
know
just
beginning
its
nascent?
C
They're
gonna
need
more,
not
hand
holding,
but
it's
the
first
phrase
that
comes
to
mind
of
what
what
is
celeste,
what
is
gravity?
What
what?
What
are
these
mechanisms
for
dispute
resolution,
and
so
I
I
might
just
want
to
just
go
through
there
and
think
about?
Oh,
should
we
have
a
link
or
for
a
further
discussion,
go
see
this
and
so
that
that
might
help.
A
F
A
Yeah,
but
we're
not
discussing
here
conviction
voting.
This
document
was
for
any
issues
that
may
arise
or
disputes
that
may
arise,
because
I
feel
that
I've
been
contributing
a
lot,
and
I
see
that
after
the
distribution
from
last
week,
I
get
less
rewards
whatever
the
rewards
are
from
john,
when
I
see
that
he's
been
out
on
vacation,
for
instance,
all
right,
those
those
are
the
kind
of
disputes
that
we
were
thinking
on
when
we
were
working
on
this
document.
F
D
D
A
There's
there's
yeah
actually,
the
way
you
describe
it.
There's
two
types
of
potential
conflict.
If
you
want
to
call
it
conflict,
one
is
by
the
amount
that
they
require
on
the
proposals
and
the
amount
that
the
dow
decides
to
give
away
to
this
group
dealing
with
the
distributions
or
by
the
distribution
of
every
distribution
period,
because,
as
I
foresee
that
I'm
not
being
treated
fair
according
to
what
I've
been
giving
for
that
week
or
that
period
or
whatever
so
there's,
there's
probably
two
kinds
of
potential
disputes.
F
A
A
A
B
C
G
D
C
We
don't
want
their
to
be
confusion.
The
words
themselves
that
are
chosen
are
not
determinative
of
what
is
or
isn't
happening,
and
so,
even
if
we
change
the
word
to
donation,
I
don't
think
that
legally
actually
changes
anything,
because
it's
still
the
same
process.
It's
it's
still.
You
know
the
dow
is
going
to
have.
You
know
these
funds.
The
community
is
going
to
vote
on
a
proposal.
C
So
this
this
section
here,
the
dow
via
the
community,
it
it
just
lays
out
in
a
couple
of
sentences
that
you
know
as
the
community
manages
the
funds
and
basically
direct
the
funds
to
which
projects
pass.
As
long
as
the
processes
are
followed,
then
the
dow
just
facilitates
the
money
getting
to
the
winning
proposals.
C
B
C
You
know
this
project's
a
really
neat
idea,
or
this
is
a
project
we'd
love
to
see,
but
how
that
projects
manage
it
managed
and
what
the
talk
tax
consequences
are
of
that
it's
just
it's
impossible
to
upfront
kind
of
say
so.
We're
just
letting
the
community
know.
Look
there
may
be
tax
implications
of
the
proposal
once
it
passes
and
the
project
gets.
C
A
Should
we
add
here
that
we
will
not
provide
any
documentation,
because
I
try
to
think
myself?
Okay,
if
I
get
if
I
have
to
pass
a
tax
report,
I
need
you
know,
I
need
an
invoice.
I
need
some
document,
even
if
it's
a
grant,
I
need
to
justify
that.
That's
a
grant.
So
should
we
add
that
we
are
not
going
to
be
providing
any
of
those?
Basically
because
there
is
no
entity
behind
it
to
provide.
C
At
least
at
least
in
the
jurisdiction
I'm
familiar
with
what
obligations
come
from
the
giving
of
a
grant,
whether
that's
a
specific
form,
that's
out
there
because
a
we
should
be
able
it's
gonna,
it's
gonna,
be,
I
would
think
I
I
guess
I
haven't
thought
this
through
all
the
way.
I
would
think
that
any
proposal
that
passes
is
going
to
be
kind
of
just
out
there
for
the
community
to
see
like
into
the
future.
C
There's
there's
no
deleting
a
proposal
that
passes
we're
going
to
be
able
to
like
go
back
and
say
look
in
the
year
2020.
These
are
the
proposals
that
were
made.
These
are
the
ones
that
passed.
These
are
the
ones
that
failed.
That's
that's!
Theoretically,
all
right
there
on
you
know,
through
the
conviction,
voting
you're
going
to
get
to
see
that
whether
or
not
a
proposal
passed
or
failed,
and
therefore
what
was
and
if
it
passes
what
was
distributed.
B
C
G
C
D
A
Yeah,
I
know
I
know,
but
the
point
here
is
at
least
in
spain.
If
I
in
my,
if
my
that
gives
me
an
amount
of
money,
I
have
to
declare
it
and
I
have
to
pay
taxes,
so
I
need
a
document
proving
that
that
money
is
coming
as
a
gift.
Okay,
that's
what
I
want
to
avoid
from
people
receiving
money
from
the
dow.
I
want
to
stay
clear
that
we
are
not
an
entity
and
we
are
not
going
to
be
giving
any
document
for
them
to
deal
with
the
with
their
tax
implications.
D
You
know
when,
when
we
launched
the
dow
the
last
step
was
solving
this
issue.
This
was
the
last
blocker
for
launching
the
down.
We
created
this
system
called
dow
link,
which
was
a
swiss
entity
that
could
interface
could
be
a
go
between,
because
in
switzerland
you
can
receive
money
from
anything.
It's
super
easy,
including
a
smart
contract,
and
then
the
swiss
entity
has
a
tax
number
that
people
could
people
in
europe
could
actually
like
cite
and
say,
I
got
money
from
this
swiss
entity.
D
We
could
try
to
create
something
like
that
for
the
dow,
but
I
would
say
it's
scope
creep
for
us,
and
people
have
accepted
that
like
it's.
Basically,
you
know
craigslist
money
or
lollipop
money.
You
know
it's
like
stuff.
Just
happened
and
money
moved
hands,
and
you
know
each
individual
has
to
deal
with
the
stress.
D
A
Money,
the
the
guys
here
in
spain,
the
irs
here
in
spain,
is
going
after
people.
You
know
selling
a
bunch
of
stuff
for
more
money.
If
you
sell
a
couple
of
things,
it's
not
a
big
issue,
but
if
you
start
seeing
that
you're
selling
a
bunch
of
stuff
they
come
after
you
and
and
you're
gonna
have
to
prove
that
that's
coming
from
a
wallop
sale
and
that's
the
only
way
to
get
it
is
knocking
on
the
door
of
wallop
and
requesting
that
information
and
we're
not
going
to
provide
that
no
yeah.
D
G
C
D
C
C
E
C
G
C
Great
I
mean
that
that
to
me
this
doesn't
mean
it's
legal,
but
to
me
in
terms
of
trying
to
make
sure
it
functions
correctly
in
whatever
jurisdiction,
you're
in
that's
the
information.
You
want
right,
irrevocable,
correct
information
that
doesn't
mean
you
know.
Canada
thinks
that's
right
or
zimbabwe
thinks
it's
right
or
new
zealand
thinks
it's
right,
but
I
would
at
least
be
able
to
look
at
them
in
the
eye
and
say:
look
this!
This
is
real.
This
happened
and
it
can't
be
changed.
C
You
know
short
short
of
some
kind
of
51
attack
on
on
the
x-star
network,
which
I
don't
even
think
could
happen.
You
can't
change
this
information,
it's
just
there.
So
if
someone
says
oh,
I
only
got
ten
thousand
wrapped
x
die
through
this
project
and
some
tax
entity
from
some
jurisdiction
goes.
Does
that
sound
right?
You
should
be
able
to
look
just
clearly
at
the
blockchain
and
go
look.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
Yeah
next
section
modification
of
services-
basically
just
this
is
a
reoccurring
theme,
I
think
in
a
lot
of
documents,
although
I
probably
said
it
five
different
ways
in
five
different
documents,
but
but
the
dow
managers
itself,
it's
the
community
that
manages
it
and
and
look
it
can
modify,
suspend
stop.
You
can
pause
itself
temporarily
or
permanently
at
any
time
and
for
any
reason,
without
any
notice,
because
that's
just
how
the
community
can
make
things
work,
and
so
it's
just
I
want.
C
C
You
know
this
charity,
it's
it's
just
ran
by
the
community
and
in
that
way,
if
it
decides
it
doesn't
want
to
exist
and
there's
some
proposal
to
basically
shut
the
whole
thing
down
and
it
passes
it
shuts
down
and
that's
the
end,
and
so
it's
kind
of
a
reoccurring
theme
that
I
think
everyone
that
interacts
with
the
dow
has
to
understand
that
there's
no
rules
that
are
kind
of
set
in
stone.
Everything
is
up
to
data
retention.
C
This
is,
I
think
someone
else
started.
Writing
this,
and
I
think
I
just
I
think
I
just
fiddled
with
the
language
a
little
bit,
but
look
you
know
we
foster
transparency.
I
I
don't
know.
I
I'm
unaware
of
any
organization
that
records
legal
working
group
meetings,
so
you
know
clearly
there's
sort
of
a
radical
transparency,
that's
kind
of
inherent
to
the
project,
but
a
lot
of
the
information
is
just
out
there.
The
wallets
the
information
where
the
money
goes.
C
We
just
talked
about
that
with
taxes,
but
the
dow
itself
isn't
storing
any
personal
information
from
users,
and
so
I
want
to
make
that
distinction
that
we're
not
creating
charity
lists,
we're
not
seeing
oh
who,
who
are
the
people
that
got
involved
in
the
project
and
then
using
that
information.
For
you
know,
someone
else's
benefit.
Does
that
make
sense.
A
A
A
C
C
C
D
C
And
then
the
last
section
prohibited
conduct.
I
thought
this
was
a
a
point
where
we're
either
going
to
link
to
the
the
get
book
or
or
we
could
put
it
here.
I
don't
think
there's
no
reason
why
we
can't
you
know
it's
impossible
for
us
to
tell
you
everything
the
community
is,
you
know
unhappy
with
or
or
unlikely
to
support,
but
I
know
the
get
book
does
have
a
small
section
on
both
what
it
wants
in
terms
of
proposals
as
well
as
stuff.
A
A
Does
that
juan
carlos?
I
believe
you
are
the
one
probably
knowing
the
most
this
content.
Do
we
we
can
open
it
up,
but
do
we
wanna?
Do
you
think
there
is
any
additional
information?
Besides
the
information
included
in
the
code
of
conduct
that
we
should
include
as
a
specific
section
for
the
proposal
or
everything
included,
there
is
more
than.
D
A
C
That's
worthwhile
saying,
I
think
it's
worthwhile,
even
with
the
links
probably
saying
hey,
look,
we
don't
want
any
proposals
that
are
going
to
violate
the
laws
of
any
jurisdiction
where
the
proposals
are
going
to
be
implemented
and
it's
probably
even
worthwhile
making
at
least
one
sentence
to
like
you
know,
come
on.
Everyone
be
be
smart
and
you
know
follow
the
laws
of
your
jurisdictions.
C
Because
again
we
can't
we
can't
list
out
every
single
thing
that
could
go
wrong
because
what's
legal
in
amsterdam
to
do
it
just
may
not
be
in
in
oklahoma.
It's
just
the
way
it's
going
to
be
something's
legal
in
in
barcelona,
and
it's
it's
not
going
to
be
legal.
You
know
300
miles
east
right,
so
it's
it's
probably
worthwhile.
Even
with
the
links,
a
sentence
or
two
saying:
hey,
look
we're
not
auditing,
but
your
reputation
matters.
C
A
B
C
B
A
C
Dovetails
with
the
proposal
creation,
but
I
I
think
we
tackled
the
fees
next
week
and
I
think
that
starts
us
on
the
process
of
even
if
there's
no
fees
now
we
or
we
don't.
We
don't
anticipate
there
being
fees,
fine,
there
may
be
fees
in
the
future
and
then
fine.
That
becomes
an
easy
section
for
us
next
week.
But
then
we
jump
then
into
the
proposal.
Creation
through
the
you
know,
the
channels
we've
talked
about
where
proposals
will
be
made
and
then
receiving
the
the
grant
itself
and.
E
C
Think
that
we
got
to
do
collaboratively
like
everyone
all
together,
just
because
it's
just
I
don't
want
to
mess
that
section
up.
I
want
to
kind
of
in
real
time.
We
should
probably
tackle
that,
but
for
next
week
I
can
go
through
and
make
the
edits.
We
talked
about
start
with
the
fees
for
making
a
proposal,
and
then
we
can
address
how
right
or
wrong.
I
got
that
and
then
save
the
creation
and
receiving
the
money
for
the
week
after.
G
C
You're
right,
I
think
that's
exactly
right
and
I
know
there
are
other
dows
out
there.
I
know
there
are
other
dows
doing
similar
thing
and
one
hive's,
probably
the
best
example,
but
you
have
law
down
and
a
couple
of
the
others,
but
we
really
are
kind
of
at
the
bleeding
edge
of
what
the
best
practices
are
and
so
we'll
we'll
kind
of
have
to
see
how
things
go
and
fiddle
with
the
documents,
as
as
we're
kind
of
you
know,
do.
D
D
C
A
D
D
A
D
D
D
D
So
there
is
quite
the
process
to
actually
propose
to
this
dow
you're
going
to
have
to
put
down
a
deposit
in
celeste
and
you're,
going
to
have
to
you're
going
to
have
to
make
sign
agreements
you're
going
to
have
to
do
a
bunch
of
stuff,
so
I've
already
done
a
lot
of
this
stuff,
but
hopefully
it'll
still.
Let
me,
oh,
let
me
make
sure
I'm
on
xdi.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
So
here
I
said:
okay,
here's
the
title,
here's
the
requested
amount
and
then
here's
the
beneficiary,
the
address
that
receives
the
money
and
here's
a
link
to
the
description
of
the
of
the
proposal
and
then,
when
I
put
that
go
through
that
boom,
I
have
a.
I
have
a
proposal
up
here
on
there
on
their
voting
page
and
that
that's
basically
the
process.