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A
Created
content,
but
I
just
thought:
I'd
bring
it
up,
because
I
could
definitely
do
that.
Like
write
articles
and
you
know,
put
them
on
an
ft
and
and
use
the
proceedings
to
fund
initiatives
for
marketing.
B
Do
you
mean
like
like
mirror.
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah.
I
think
it's,
I
think,
that's
really
interesting
hold
on.
I'm
just
gonna
play
our
music.
B
B
This
might
be
a
little
bit
lighter
attendance
today,
I'm
guessing
there's
a
lot
of
people.
A
lot
of
people
are
away,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
lose
your
your
thought.
There.
B
It's
not
going
well,
you
you
all,
can
see
it.
Sorry,
you
know
I
I'm
just
the
next
couple
weeks
are
going
to
be
a
little
bit
rough
for
me
being
on
the
road
I
this
laptop
is
kind
of
so
you
can
see
the
agenda
in
the
sample,
clarity,
space
and.
B
Okay,
oh
great,
thank
you
all
right!
So,
let's,
let's
dive
in
and
nate's
going
to
be
joining
us
a
little
bit
later
has
a
conflict
so
every
other
week
for
the
next
little.
While
she
has
this
time
because
she's
she's
doing
the
orientation
calls
with
eduardo,
and
so
it's
right
during
this
time,
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
that
work.
Let's,
let's
start
by
doing
what
we
always
do
and
mine
been
a
while
that
we've,
you
know,
had
to
be
able
to
read
the
mission.
A
B
I
thought
that
today,
because
today
is
probably
going
to
be
a
little
bit
lighter
on
call.
What
I
wanted
to
do
is
start
off
with
just
like
this
question
of.
Why
are
you
personally
motivated
to
be
here
investing
your
time?
You
know
precious
time
and
then.
B
It's
not
it's
not
probably
to
become
niche
and
famous
is
my
guess
so
other
than
that.
What
letters!
What
is
it
that's
wrong
here
and
so
I'm
gonna
just
throw
it
out
empty.
Would
you
be
willing
to
take
things
off.
C
Sure,
well,
I
guess
my
main
motivation
is
that
I
feel
pretty,
I
feel
quite
aligned
with
the
field
and
the
work
we
are.
We
want
to
do
ourselves.
I
find
the
talking
getting
feel
pretty
interesting.
I
think
it's
the
future,
and
you
know,
after
being
some
time
working
or
contributing
in
the
space
you
up,
I
don't
know
was-
was
like
the
perfect
moment
and
the
perfect
time
to
just
land
up
here
and
meet
all
these
awesome
people
with
really
great
ideas.
That's
that's
against
my
reasoning.
C
D
D
I
was
just
like
fascinated
to
be
able
to
create
an
economic
system
without
any
third
party
or
without
any
institution
or
other
type
of
entity,
and
and
these
added
with
the
idea
of
this
being
a
dao,
I'm
participating
in
a
dao
and
everything
that
that
it's
involved
there
of
a
new
way
of
working
and
a
new
way
of
collaborating,
and
it
was
just
like
really
aligned
to
what
I
enjoy.
What
I
like
doing
yeah,
I
guess
I
like
kind
of
innovation
and
trying
to
look
for
for
different
ways.
So
yeah.
D
A
line-
let's
see
yeah
opacity
to
richard.
E
Thanks
fair,
so
I
I
think
that
token
engineering
is
really
important
if
we
want
sort
of
the
new
dominus
autonomous
organizations
to
survive
in
web
3.,
and
I
personally
find
that
we're
at
the
forefront
of
of
kind
of
defining
how
all
of
this
will
play
out,
and
I
think
it's
really
cool.
I
think
it's
it's
part
of
like
it's.
It's
like
you're
being
you're
part
of
like
an
important
part
of
history.
So
for
me
it
just
feels
really
cool
to
be
able
to
help
usher.
F
Pale
I
couldn't
attend
last
week,
but
I'm
I'm
here.
I'm
not
gonna
miss
two
in
a
row
right,
so
I'm
pretty
motivated
because
I
feel
like
it's
something
that's
been
lacking.
I
feel
like
token
engineering,
sustainable
economies,
projects
that
try
to
make
sense
of
themselves
not
with
a
six-month
time
scale,
but
that
of
20
years
and
in
a
way.
F
I
guess
it
is
because
the
technology
is
moving
so
so
fast,
but
I
I
feel,
like
the
token
engineering
commons
is
kind
of
a
force
for
good
in
in
trying
to
get
rid
of
so
many
points.
So
that's
that's
why
I'm
invested
in
it.
It's
it's
something!
That's
close
to
my
heart
and
my
studies
and
the
rest
of
it.
So
yes
and
I
joined
a
bit
late,
so
who's
who's
left
manuel.
Have
you
spoken
yet.
A
Thanks
rex,
I
have
not,
and
I
will
now
so
for
me-
I
I
resonate
with
what
risha
said
and.
A
Yeah
well,
the
first
thing:
the
first
thing
that
got
me
here
was
the
culture
and
ever
since
then,
I've.
A
Really
become
intoxicated
with
the
opportunity
to
leave
a
legacy
by
being
one
of
the
first
civil
engineers
in
the
space,
certainly
in
mexico
and
latin
america,
there
are
so
many
things
that
you
can
do
with
cryptographic
systems
that
I
feel
this
is
like
the
most
cost
effective
way
like
learning
top
engineering
and
then
transitioning
to
physical
public
goods.
A
No
there's
nothing
good,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
funding
digital
public
goods,
but
I
I
really
resonate
with
physical
public
goods
like
the
region,
side
of
things,
regenerating
ecosystems
and
sort
of
like
seeing
physically
the
results
of
your
work
and
the
results
of
coming
up
with.
A
Incentive
alignment
within
the
crypto
economic
system
right,
so
I'm
really
interested
in
in
the
legacy
that
it
implies:
learning
token
hearing
and
being
one
of
the
first
ones
to
do
that
being
on
the
vanguard
and
how
many
doors
that
opens
and
how
valuable
that
can
be
as
a
service
to
others.
A
Also,
I'm
very
stubborn
and
I
will
not
leave
the
tc
at
a
worse
state
than
it
was
when
I
came
in
so
I
really
want
to
see
this
sort
of
like
pre-crisis
or
this
sort
of
like
moment
of
function.
I
I
really
want
to
see
it
through
and
I
want
to
see.
If
I
can,
you
know
be
a
big
part
of
the
solution
of
that
so
yeah
I
will.
B
Yeah
thanks
wow
super
inspiring.
I
I
have
to
say
just
as
a
side
note.
I
really
I
really
love
this
team.
This
is.
B
We've
got
a
few
more
folks
who
aren't
here
right
now,
but
I
guess
I
I
do
feel
like
to
your
point
like
this
is
kind
of
a
make
or
break
the
next
six
months
or
so
are
some
of
the
maple
breaks
period
for
the
tec,
and
I
do
feel
like
the
energy
that's
building
here
in
sampo
is
going
to
be
really
important
to
getting
through
into
the
next
phase
of
the
tsd.
B
B
I
mean
I
still
had
fun,
it
was
great
and
it
was
meaningful
at
one
level,
but
then
I
started
working
with
the
environmental
movement
and
helping
them
with
various
technologies,
and
what
I
found
in
that
work
was
that
you
know
we
would
have
a
win
like
you
would
push
through
some
policy
in
washington
state
with
some
place
oregon
or
wherever,
and
then
you
know
it
would
be
we'd
be
all
excited,
and
then
two
or
three
years
later
the
business
community
would
come
around
and
basically
plug
that
hole
and
like
shut
down
whatever
it
was
that
we
had
had
won,
and
I
just
thought:
oh,
my
god
like
this,
is
a
losing
like
the
way
the
whole
system
is
set
up.
B
It's
it's
set
up
to
be
unsustainable.
It's
just
meant
to
extract
and
so
yeah.
I
spent
some
time
just
really
thinking
about
looking
into
mission-driven
stakeholder-centric
systems,
and
this
you
know
when
I
finally
started
digging
into
blockchain,
and
then
I
found
my
way
to
the
cdc
and
all
of
the
kind
of
the
network
of
sister
organizations.
I
just
was
like
wow
this.
Is
it
because
to
me
it
feels
like
the
job
before
us
is
reinventing
fabric
of
economics.
B
It
gets
a
lot
of
me
basically
recode
the
code
within
the
codes
right,
and
I
just
feel
to
me.
It
feels
to
me
like
the
tc.
Is
this
beacon
you're?
Not
the
light
is
not
that
bright
yet,
but
we're
that's.
What
we're
building
is
this
really
powerful
beacon
for
an
alternative
view
of
the
economic
rapid?
So
that's
why?
B
B
That's
great
and
I
wanted
to
just
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
just
catch
on,
so
thank
you.
Let's,
so
nate
is
going
to
be
back
in
a
couple
minutes
and
he's
going
to
give
us
an
update
on
what's
happening
with
the
treasury
policy
and
the
proposal
that
he's
filling
together.
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
quick
update
on
a
couple
things.
B
One
is
just
a
reminder:
I'm
I'm
kind
of
out
it's
between
down
september
8th,
but
I
am
taking
like
two
to
three
hours
in
the
morning
and
and
mostly
focused
on
trying
to
keep
some
of
the
those
main
projects
that
were
transferred
through
just
to
keep
those
moving
along.
B
So
I'm
having
conversations
with
folks
on
that,
particularly
the
curation
service,
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I'm
trying
to
do
is,
if
you
look
at
the
the
outcomes
that
we
said
that
we
promised
we
would
fulfill
for
the
community,
some
of
them
have
to
do
with
kind
of
like
the
vision
for
the
next
wave
of
services
and
then
a
lot
about
like
positioning
the
tec
like
how
do
we
talk
about
ourselves
for
fundraising?
B
So
that's
some
of
the
stuff
that
I'm
I'm
working
on.
I'm
just
trying
to
use
some
of
this
quiet
time
in
the
morning
to
work
on
that
and
my
hope
is
to
be
able
to
then
share
some
of
that
stuff.
I've
already
shared
in
very
rough
form.
B
What
I'm
hoping
is
that
in,
like
probably
two
weeks
from
now,
I
will
share
with
you
all
the
kind
of
the
next
iteration
on
that
and
then
from
there.
Take
that
to
the
other
stewards,
and
I
think
that
what's
becoming
really
clear
to
me
is
that
you
know
sampo
is
a
catalyst
for
a
lot
of
this
stuff.
B
But
it's
going
to
be
so
important
that
we
engage
all
of
the
working
groups
and
all
all
the
stewards
of
everybody
in
basically
pulling
together
some
services
that
can
help
turn
the
dc
around.
So
so
that's,
basically
what
september
is
going
to
look
like,
I
think
so.
That's
the
first
thing
is
just
basically
that's
kind
of
what
my
time
is
like
over
the
next
couple
weeks,
if
you've
got
urgent
stuff
feel
free
to
ping
me,
and
I'm
still
here
and
checking.
B
As
I
said
in
the
morning,
the
other
update
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
goals
that
we
had
in
the
the
proposal,
and
one
of
the
promises
we
made
to
the
community
was
that
we
would
submit
at
least
two
grant
applications
and
so
that
we
now
have.
B
We
can
put
a
check
next
to
that,
because
on
friday
I
I
just
submitted
kind
of
an
updated
version
of
the
git
coin
brand
that
we
do
every
few
months
for
the
tec,
and
I
I
positioned
it
as
like
a
slightly
different
pitch
than
we've
done
in
the
past.
B
One
of
the
things
I
learned
in
doing
fundraising
for
like
10
years
is
that
people
get
way
more
excited
when
they
can
invest
in
a
specific
project
than
investing
in,
what's
called
general
support.
So
if
you
just
say
like
hey,
give
us
money
for
the
organization
people
like
okay,
I
guess
so,
but
what
would
this
be
used
for
when
you
can
be
very
specific
and
get
them
excited
about
a
particular
project
that
tends
to
be
way
more
engaging?
B
So
I
just
wanted
to,
even
though
this
money
is
not
going
to
go
forth,
it's
not
going
to
go
to
the
curation
service,
specifically
because
the
law
address
that
the
bitcoin
is
pointing
to
is
just
the
tc.
It's
it
doesn't
matter
like.
We
can
still
pitch
this
project
as
a
way
of
pitching
the
pcs,
and
so
that's
one
grant,
and
then
we
also
did
the
this
explorer
awards,
which
is
basically
focused
on
projects
that
help
to
build
education,
knowledge,
sharing
and
exploration
for
web3.
B
So
we
asked
for
like
nine
thousand
dollars
nine
thousand
times
for
for
last
and
that
that
is
going
to
be
aimed
at
the
the
curation
service.
B
B
Okay,
one
thing
to
just
share
you'll
see
in
this
document
that
I'll
be
sharing
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
but
one
of
the
conclusions
that
I'm
coming
to
is
that
when
I
came
into
this
at
the
very
beginning
of
sample,
I
was
thinking
that
we
would
have
fundraising,
be
kind
of
a
key
focus
for
us
in
this
first
phase.
But
one
of
the
things
that
I've
I've
seen
is
that
some
of
the
responses
we're
getting
from
our
existing
token
holders
and
it's
like
hey.
What
are
you
guys
actually
doing?
B
You
know
like
what
did
you
do
with
the
first
round
of
money
that
we
that
we
invested
into
the
tdc
or
that
we
put
in
because
we
funded
the
pc
for,
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
much
easier
for
us
to
go
out
and
raise
additional
rounds
of
funding
once
we
can
point
to
some
specific
services
that
and
real
value
that
we're
providing
for
the
mission
and
for
the
broader
stakeholders?
B
And
by
that
I
mean
with
people
who
are
you
know
the
token
engineering
professionals,
the
users
of
the
staff,
usually
little's
comments,
but
once
we
can
point
to
that
and
we
can
show
actual
value.
That's
like
wow
here's.
You
know
once
people
can
say
wow.
The
tec
is
really
doing
some
amazing
work
to
build
this
field.
It's
going
to
be
so
much
easier
to
raise
money
and
whether
that's
money
like
people
putting
money
into
the
augmented
bonding
curve
directly
or
giving
expense.
B
So
that's
kind
of
the
going
assumption,
even
though
we're
doing
these
these
existing
grants.
What
I'm
saying
is,
I
think,
it's
going
to
be
way
more
important
for
us
to
build
these
services,
build
some
excitement
again
for
what
we're
doing
in
the
future
of
the
tec,
and
then
the
funding
will
start
to
flow.
B
So
I
guess
any
thoughts
on
that
before
we
move
on.
Does
that
seem
like
a
decent
strategy
or
is
that
are
people
concerned
about
that.
E
That
that's
pretty
good
and
in
terms
of
kind
of
pointing
them
to
the
first
set
of
things
that
might
look
interesting
for
them
to
give
us
further
funds.
What
are
some
services
that
we
have
in
mind
for
that.
B
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
the
the
the
well.
The
theme
behind
all
these
services
will
be
shelling
point.
You
know
the
shelling
point
services.
These
are
services
that
will
actually
help
to
turn
the
tec
into
a
true
selling
point
for
token
engineering,
so
the
first
one
is
going
to
be.
This
token
is
going
to
be
the
token
engineering
knowledge
curation
service
that
we're
building
with
the
common
sense
folks
at
dow
stack
and
tangible
ai.
B
B
People
will
be
able
to
look
at
the
tec,
and
I'm
I'm
thinking
that
this
is
going
to
be
our
best
bet
in
the
short
term,
we're
starting
to
attract
and
engage
kind
of
the
next
wave
of
people,
and
it
will
be
much
more
obvious.
What
we're
trying
to
build
across
that.
E
Sounds
good,
I'm
I'm
gonna
say
something
a
little
bit
controversial,
but
I'm
surprised
that
there's
I'm
surprised
that
we
cannot
say
anything.
Existing
can
be
classified
as
a
service
at
the
tc.
A
I
I
would
say,
regarding
like
the
services
that
we've
made,
I
would
point
to.
I
would
point
to
the
comments
configuration
dashboard,
which
is
not
very
known,
but
it
is.
It
is
a
dashboard
that
allows
people
to
play
with
different
parameters
and
their
values
and
how
they
affect
one
another
and,
like
all
the
math
is
done
so
like
in
the
back
end,
and
you
can
just
get
the
visualization
of
of
what
it
means
to
change
certain
values.
A
So
that's
open
source
any
dao
can
plug
into
that
and
assess
how
they
will
be
structured
in
terms
of
collaborative
economics.
So
that's
a
first.
I
would
say
also
that
we
funded
the
khadgat
community
so
carcass
the
python
library
to
the
python
library,
for
open
engineering.
A
We
funded
the
community
to
help
grow
so
that
more
people
can
understand
what
it
is
about
to
know,
learn
about
it,
get
informed
and
not
and
also
contribute
to
its
further
development
and
yeah.
Obviously,
we
funded
the
t
fundamentals
course,
which
hasn't
started
yet
it
starts
on
october
14th,
but
thousands
of
people
have
signed
up
for
that.
A
So
we
will
be
at
the
forefront
of
supporting
or
educating
the
first
generation
of
token
engineers
and
then
also,
I
would
say,
peripherally
or
indirectly
we
funded
the
proposal
inverter.
So
it
allows
several
dowels
to
fund
one
initiative
as
opposed
to
initially
having
to
go
to
each
dial
separately,
to
request
for
funds
or
grants
and
also
in
conjunction
with
general
magic.
A
We
developed
the
phrase
reward
system
right,
so
a
dashboard
for
people
to
quantify
the
contributions
of
others,
of
course
connected
with
the
discord
bot
that
people
give
praise
through,
so
that
people
can
quantify
and
receive
the
value
they
contributed
in
the
form
of
tc
tokens.
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done
not
to
mention
like
the
the
leadership
structure
that
we
have
created.
A
You
know
all
the
working
groups,
all
the
stewards
that's
like
taking
for
granted,
but
it's
pretty
solid
in
the
sense
that
even
if
people
go
away
because
the
roles
get
eliminated,
the
structures
are
there,
the
manifestos
are
there,
the
google
doc
information.
Is
there
a
lot
of
information
there
too?
For
someone
to
pick
up
and
keep
moving
so
those
leadership
structures,
I
would
say
very
valuable
as
well,
but
it
I
mean
it's
like
sketchy
to
pitch
them.
A
You
know,
but
they
are
their
value
and
they
took
a
lot
of
amount
of
time
too.
So
those
are,
in
my
opinion,
the
things
that
we've
helped
build.
Maybe
I'm
forgetting
something,
but
I
say
those
are
the
main
ones.
C
F
Understanding
is
that
the
with,
like
we
haven't
generated,
say
any
revenue
from
being
the
first
praised,
testers
and
kind
of
helping
common
stack
and
general
magic
build
that
so
there's
a
lot
of
like
there's
a
there's,
a
balance
between
at
least
in
my
eyes
like
we.
We
build
a
lot
of
like
open
source
like
public
goods
things,
but
we
don't
have
the
what
I
don't
think
and
what
I
think
we've
missed
is.
F
C
F
It
could
play
a
part
in
implementing
it
and
pitching
it
to
other
dials
and
implementing
it
in
other
dials
and
taking
a
cut
from
kind
of
helping
them
set
it
up
well
kind
of
the
expansion
of
our
projects
having
a
revenue
structure
that
is
facilitated
like
by
the
expansion
of
our
products.
We
don't
have
that.
I'm
not
sure
if.
F
C
Quickly
changing
there,
I
think
the
issue
there
is
that
for
those
matters
we
are
closer
to
a
granting
project
and
there's
a
lot
of
conflicts
when,
when
it
comes
to
offering
those
services,
because
we
could
certainly
offer
praise
activation
services,
but
that's
conflicting
with
general
magic,
because
they
they
offer
the
same
service
too
right
and
that's
that
applies
to
to
various
other
things,
but
going
back
to
the
to
the
grade
the
great
resume
manu
did.
C
I
think
this
is
an
idea
I
have
mentioned
before,
but
I
think
we
are
also
again
on
the
on
a
great
position
to
some
someday
become
a
re-granter
for
major
organizations
that
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
on
grants,
but
doesn't
necessarily
have
the
the
expertise
and
the
connections
we
may
have
on
this
space,
and
we
just
as
manu
said,
we
have
experience
of
the
proposal
and
barrier
the
character,
community,
tea
academy,
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
C
That's
probably
an
interesting
target
explorer.
F
Yeah,
but
that
to
that
I'd
say,
then,
let's
call
a
spoon,
a
spoon
right
like
we're.
We're
testers
of
we're
no
more
than
an
end
user
in
the
praise
system,
as
in
the
tuc,
has
helped
build
it,
but
it
has
like
nothing
else,
so
there's
those
sorts
of
things
that
maybe
are
missing
from
our
vision
and
need
to
be
included
from
the
moment
from
the
from
the
going
points
where
we
start
kind
of
involving
ourselves
in
one
of
these
projects.
A
I
would
say
that
we
are
more
we're
more
like
preferred
stakeholders
other
than
than
end
users,
because
we
we
could
sit
with
the
general
magic
management
team
and
be
like
hey.
You
know,
let's
find
a
way
to
like
monetize
this,
each
in
our
own
way
that
just
hasn't
happened
yet
right.
It's
just
a
decision
that
has
to
be
taken
that
we
would
have
a
say
in
it.
It's
just.
I
guess.
A
No
one
has
done
that
yet,
but
and-
and
I
I
understand
your
frustration
or
or
your
your
opinion-
and
I
share
it-
you
know
I.
I
would
certainly
like
the
praise,
which
is
part
of
our
cultural
stack
right.
That
is
something
that
that
interested
me
or
that
hooked
me
very
early
that
that
we
realized
that
organizations
are
not
only
built
on
technology
stacks,
but
also
cultural
stacks,
and
the
praise
is
one
of
our
rituals
that
go
into
the
cultural
stack.
A
So
I
would
certainly
like
that
to
be
shared
more,
but
again,
it's
sort
of
like
yeah
we're
tied
to
general
magic
in
that
sense,
so,
maybe
maybe
later
on,
we
can
find
something
to
monetize
the
prey
system
together
or
iterate.
You
know
fork
and
just
do
our
own
version,
and
I
don't
know
but
yeah.
That's
that's
an
issue
unto
itself.
B
So
welcome
back
nate
we're
just
talking
about
we're
talking
about
kind
of
the
general
strategy
of
or
the
general
assumption
that
I'm
making,
which
is
that
fundraising
for
the
tc
will
become
much
easier
when
we
can
show
to
the
outside
world
that
we
really
are
the
shelling
point
for
token
engineering
and
that
we
are
doing
a
great
job
of
attracting
in
lots
and
lots
of
token
engineering
professionals.
B
Be
they
actual
engineers
themselves
or
you
know,
could
be
lots
of
you
know
it
could
be
strategists,
could
be
lots
of
different
people
related
to
this
field.
So
we
were
just
talking
about.
I
think
you
know
mine
was
making
points
like.
Actually
we
do
have
some
where
actually
risha
was
asking.
Well,
I'm
kind
of
surprised.
We
don't
have
services
already
and
mono
is
pointing
out
that
we
do
have
some
services.
B
B
Even
transparency,
these
are
services
that
can
be
offered
to
other
dows,
and
you
know
I
mean
I,
I
spent
like
10
years
running
a
consulting
company
and
it's
tough,
it's
tough
to
scale
up
the
hourly
rates,
especially
if
you're
offering
open
source
software.
It's
it's.
Definitely
you
can
do
it,
but
it's
it's
a
tough
go,
and
I
think
that
that's
those
are
some
services
that
we
have
built.
B
I
think
what
we're
going
to
see
is
that
making
a
lot
of
money
from
those
is
going
to
be
a
is
going
to
be
a
challenge.
It's
not
that
there's
no
money
there,
but
it's
it's!
You
know
it's
a
challenge.
I
think
that
the
reason
that
I've
been
when
I
talk
about
services,
what
I
think
of
services
is
more
the
shell
and
point
services,
and
so
what
does
that
mean?
That
means
like
the
services
that
are
gonna
act
as
like
a
giant
attractor
to
bring
in
and
be
like
unequivocally.
B
Obviously,
the
shell
influence
for
token
engineering
like
what
will
it
take?
What
will
we
have
to
provide
to
the
fields
in
order
to
be
that
beacon,
build
legal
service
and
get
on
top
of
that?
And
so,
when
we
build
those
services-
and
you
know
the
curation
is
like-
I
think,
the
first
step
in
that
and
there's
no
guarantee
that
that's
going
to
work.
B
But
I
think
it's
a
good
logical
first
step,
like
sharing
knowledge
and
sharing
expertise
is,
is
one
obvious
example
all
kinds
of
things
that
the
seance
would
what
a
sean
point
would
be.
So
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
important
for
us
when
we
talk
about
services
in
the
future
to
be
separating
and
being
specific
by
what
we
mean
by
services.
B
I
think
that
there
are
these
services
that
could
be
valuable
as
consulting
services
to
daos,
and-
and
you
know
even
those
like
you
know,
the
the
abc
is
not
ours.
It's
not
the
tec's
to
to
sell
or
service.
You
know,
general
magic
is
and
the
common
stacks
team
itself-
and
I
said,
invest
a
lot
of
time
and
spend
money
in
building
these
things.
So.
C
B
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
when
we
think
about
services,
if
we
can
think
about
shelling
point
as
the
is
the
target
right,
what
what
services
do
we
need
in
order
to
be
the
challenge
for
token
engineering,
and
when
we
have
those,
then
we
start
attracting
like
a
really
broad
base
of
token
engineering
professionals
of
various
types
of
expertise,
and
then
you
know
anti's
vision
that
he's
talked
about
about
you
know
like.
B
B
That's
like
totally
doable,
but
we
can't
right
now
keep
doing.
We
can't
sustainably
keep
investing
or
granting
to
projects
because
we're
running
out
of
fun,
and
so
we
need
a
way
to
inject
new
capital
into
our
common
pool,
and
I
think
the
only
way
out
is
through
and
that
that
through
path
is
being
shown
from
so
but
I'm.
C
B
Excited
about
the
etherium
foundation
as
a
potential
like
that
could
be
huge
for
us.
It
will
be
huge
and
they
are
looking
for
the
next
wave.
You
know
they
do
it
for
bitcoin
and
they're
looking
for
other
rebranders
right,
so
we're
we're
a
very
logical,
re-granting
organization
for
them,
but
not
right.
Now,
right
we
have
to.
We
don't
have
that
critical
mass
of
people
coming
in.
Who
can
who
can
be
those
people
doing
the
conviction.
B
Okay,
I
mean
I,
I
I
encourage
some
feedback
and
I
I
will
send
the
documents
out
in
a
couple
weeks
and
I
would
love
to
get
like
like
these
are.
These
are
some
critical
assumptions
that
actually
kind
of
make
or
breaks
on
where
we
go
and
whether
or
not
I
mean
ultimately,
the
tc
thrives
so
wow,
okay.
So,
let's
move
on
to
the
next
topic,
nate
wanted
to
give
an
update
on
the
treasury
proposal
that
he's
putting
together.
G
Yeah,
so
I
apologize
for
any
delay
on
presenting
the
document.
G
I
am
currently
in
discussion
with
dan
from
nosistowe
he's
a
huge
supporter
of
the
tec,
and
so
it
was
really
good
talking
to
him
about
kind
of
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
have
with
the
augmented
bonding
curve
having
our
tec
tokens
within
the
laser
tag,
multisig,
and
how
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
hold
on
to
those
tokens,
and
so
he
is
helping
me
develop
a
proposal
for
gnosis
now
to
actually
pass
to
actually
get
a
loan
and
perhaps
not
even
get
rid
of
the
tokens
itself,
just
just
a
direct
loan
from
those
now
to
initiate
our
treasury
as
kind
of
an
ecosystem
development
grant.
G
And
so
hopefully,
this
kind
of
forms
really
nicely.
The
the
reason
I've
been
stalling
out
on
the
the
first
investment
proposal
strategy
is
to
make
to
kind
of
get.
This
kind
of
you
know
clarity
around
what
direction
we're
heading
in
right
now
and
what
what
the
gnosis
dial
will
be
in
support
of.
So
that
is
the
big
one
right
now,
the
the
tec.
G
Tokens
would
be
great
to
hold
on
to
for
things
like
token
swaps,
because
you
know
being
able
to
have
a
found
like
kind
of
a
foundational
fund
for
our
treasury
development
and
hold
on
to
those
tokens
will
allow
us
to
do
a
lot
more
things
than
we
initially
thought
of
within
the
road
map.
And
I
think
that's
a
really
really
important
aspect,
because
I
think
the
partnership
building
that
we
could
use
with
those
57,
000
tec
tokens
and
have
a
small
amount
of
funds
for
a
treasury.
G
Startup
is
going
to
be
really
beneficial
to
us.
And
so
I
really
kind
of
wanted
to
focus
more
on
the
partnership
aspect.
Not
only
getting
you
know
our
basic
funding
within
our
first
investment
strategy
with
our
different.
You
know
the
stable
coin,
investments
and
start
putting
these
funds
into
defy
and
earning
some
yield,
but
also
using
those
tec
tokens
as
a
method
for
getting
some
value-aligned
organizations
starting
to
get
involved
and
having
utility
of
these
tec
tokens.
G
And
so
that
should
be
wrapping
up,
probably
by
the
end
of
this
week,
and
I
hope
we
can
get
a
gnosis
dow
proposal
up
by
by
next
week,
and
so
that
is
currently
on
the
docket
right
now
and
so,
depending
on
the
the
structure
and
what
dan
thinks
the
gnosis
style
will
be
able
to
swing.
It
has
a
lot
to
do
with
how
we
approach
this
investment
strategy
and
so,
like.
G
I
said
before,
the
the
the
next
steps
for
us
are
going
to
be,
of
course,
to
have
that
document
released,
propose
on
the
forum
pass
within
snapchat,
and
then
we
will
formally
request
the
from
funds
from
laser
tag
and
then
implement
on
that
strategy.
This
is
going
to
be
kind
of
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
difficult,
because
I
think
that
what
we're
going
to
need
is
people
to
fall
into
certain
roles
and
functions
of
contribution.
G
I
had
broken
down
the
management
of
the
treasury
into
three
broad
categories:
the
execution
team,
the
analysis
and
research
team
and
the
transparency
and
reporting
team.
And
so
the
idea
behind
this
is
that
each
each
small
group
or
individual
will
contribute
to
those
efforts
on
a
kind
of
quarterly
basis,
so
analyzing
the
investment
strategy
that
we
have
in
place,
whether
it's
producing
good
you
know,
yield
and
making
sure
that
the
investment
strategies
are
sustainable.
G
The
transparency
reporting
team
will
start
to
develop
what
what?
What
do
we
need
to
communicate
back
to
the
community
and
then,
of
course,
the
execution
team
or
the
people
on
the
multisig,
and
so
the
multi-sigs
are
going
to
require
probably
the
majority
of
people
in
this
room,
and
so
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
is
comfortable
with
if
you're
interested
in
being
a
signer
on
multisig.
G
G
Cool
yeah-
and
so
I
know,
and
I'll
have
some
more
information
on
not
only
the
multi-sig
but
the
the
kind
of
the
agent
monitor
setup
that
I
have
proposed
for
separate
multi-sigs
that
we're
going
to
try
out
within
this
first
investment
strategy,
where
we're
going
to
have
two
individuals
on
a
multi-sig
one
of
two
multi-sig
that
will
be
in
charge
of
a
small
amount
of
funds
that
will
be
able
to
work
with
howe.
G
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
recognized
howell.xyz,
but
it
allows
us
to
integrate
with
discord
so
anytime,
there's
activities
within
ave
or
any
type
of
d5
protocol.
It
notifies
you
as
a
monitor
on
discord.
It
notifies
the
discord
channel
and
says
this
transaction
happened
at
this
time
exactly
what
type
of
transaction
happened,
and
so
we
have
this
kind
of
mutual
monitoring
that
occurs
with
every
action
that
we
take
within
this.
The
12th
rune
group,
and
so
getting
that
set
up
on
the
discord
is
another
challenge.
I'm
not
sure.
G
B
Nate
wow,
I
don't
even
know
where
to
begin.
That's
first
of
all,
that's
super
cool
about
your
conversation,
but
dan,
so
would
did
I
get
it
right
that
he's
thinking
about
extending
a
loan
that
would
be
kind
of
free,
free
and
clear
of
actually
I
mean
would
would
we
he
would
still
need
some
collateral
from
us
and
that
would
still
be
the
tec.
Is
that
correct.
G
G
You
know
the
organizations
that
have
been
on
the
gnosis
chain
for
a
while
to
help
start
to
develop
them
and
making
sure
that
they're
succeeding,
and
so
he
he
stated
in
interest
that
he
would
love
to
see
it
as
just
a
grant
ecosystem
grant.
But
if
not,
it
depends
on
how
the
the
gnosis
dow
members
vote
and
what
they
would
be
interested
in.
He
just
wants
to
make
sure
that
the
proposal
that
we
develop
is
feasible
at
worst
case
scenario.
G
We
do
offer
up
to
57
000
tec
as
collateral
for
a
loan
and
that
should
be
doable
and
so,
but
he
right
now
they're
going
through
that
process.
They
have
their
treasury
management
delved
out
to
a
a
small
organization
called
carpet
key
which
I've
been
talking
to
in
terms
of
they
seem
really
professionalized.
G
I
mean
they
manage
their
entire
treasury,
which
is
a
very,
very
large
treasury
and
learning
how
they
execute
on
that
as
well,
and
so
they
they
look
at
it
as
a
diversification
tool
and
a
kind
of
ecosystem
development
strategy,
and
so
it's
one
of
those
things
that
it's
still
in
the
very
beginnings
of
the
process.
G
But
I
do
think
it's
really
important
to
get
clarity
on
that,
because
I
think
if
we
can
get
just
an
outright
grant,
that
would
be
super
beneficial,
so
yeah,
because
because
that
would
free
up
that
57
000
tec
to
really
start
to
go
after
partnerships.
G
And
so
I
think
that
that
is
going
to
be
the
big
big
big
use
case.
If
we
can
get
that,
so
I'm
gonna
keep
talking
with
dan
about
it
and
keep
pushing
forward
with
it
and
I'll
keep
everybody
updated
as
much
as
possible.
But
but
what
happens
with
this?
You
know:
partnership
with
gnosis.
Dow
has
a
lot
has
a
lot
of
impact
on
how
we
approach
this
first
investment
strategy,
and
so
I'm
I'm
okay
with
taking
my
time
on
this.
G
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
get
to
get
the
messaging
out
there
and
kind
of
ensure
that
we,
you
know,
are
conveying
that
we're
going
to
handle
this
money
responsibly
and
that
it's
going
to
really
have
an
impact.
I
think
that's
the
core
concern
it's
like.
If
we
do
give
this
grant
is,
are
we
going
to
see
the
impact
you
know
from
it,
and
so
I
I
think
that's
trying
to
convey
that
to
gnosis.
Now
is
the
hard
part
and
so
yeah.
G
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
update
and
I'm
exploring
that
right
now
and
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
But
after
that
we'll
definitely
need
to
kind
of
catalyze
around
the
the
processes
of
the
management
process
that
I've
been
learning
from
carpet
key.
So
yeah.
B
I
know
I
don't
know
if
it's,
because
I
have
the
ac
set
too
high
in
this
hotel
room
or
if
I'm
just
really
excited
about
what
you
just
said.
I
have
chills
so
so
that's
really
cool.
So
the
idea
would
be
that
this
grant,
assuming
that
they
went
forward
with
it,
would
be
to
basically
enable
us
to
put
in
place
treasury
management.
G
That's
correct,
and
so
and
and
the
idea
you
know
in
that
worst
case
scenario
like
so
there's
three
possibilities:
it's
outright
grant,
or
it's
a
straight
up
alone
and
either
way.
I
think
that,
having
that
tec
tokens
free
of
of
being
you
know,
locked
up
in
any
way
is
really
really
beneficial.
So
those
are
the
first
two
options.
Is
that
either
it's
an
outright
grant
or
we
have
some
type
of
loan?
That's
a
lot
like
long
term
that
we
can
just
slowly
pay
back,
which
I
think
is
also
a
doable
option.
B
So
cool
man-
I
I
was
not
expecting
that
turn
of
events.
So
that's
wow
if
you
can
pull
that
off
man.
That
is
that's
huge
because
I
was
honestly,
you
know,
as
I'm
thinking
about
like
the
operational
costs
of
doing
this
right,
like
what
you're
describing
it's
like.
You
know
it's
not
going
to
be
free,
so
if
they're
willing
to
help
us
do
that,
that
will
that's
huge.
B
So
one
thing
I
was
going
to
mention
is
that
bear,
and
I
have
been
thinking
about.
You
know
how
we
did.
We
wrote
up
these
kind
of
roles
for
the
sample
organizer
and
then
the
sampo
steward.
It
just
describes
like
what
are
the:
what
are
the
responsibilities
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
B
It
might
be
helpful
to
just
do
kind
of
a
similar
thing
for
those
three
types
that
you
described
like
the
three
types
of
roles
you
were
describing
just
something
simple
doesn't
have
to
be
fancy,
but
I
don't
know
if
you,
if
you're
interested
in
that,
maybe
connect
with
bear
and
like
there's
a
way
to
kind
of
like
just
summarize
those
those
roles
so
that
people
know
what
they'd
be
signing
up
for.
B
G
Yeah
and-
and
I
you
know,
I
I
establish
those
rules
but
like
the
thing
is
that
I
would
like
it
to
be
as
automated
as
possible.
You
know
if
we
can
get
that
process
automated
completely.
That
would
be
great
where
we
don't
have
to
constantly
have
eyes
on
things
all
the
time
where
we
have
kind
of
this
automation,
where
it
notifies
us
of
changes
or
things
problematic
issues
within
our
investment
strategies.
F
F
Yeah
I
mean
I've
done
discord
setups
before
I
I
don't
know
how
involved
it
is,
whether
it's
because
the
development
not
really
but
setting
up
discords.
I've
done
a
couple
like.
I
think
I
still
manage
some.
I
think
so
that
I
could
that
I
could
do.
It
depends
a
lot
on
like
how
involved
it
is
setting
this
thing
up
whether
it's
a
cis
admin
job
which
then
I
can
do,
but
if
it's
development
then
we'll
have
to
see,
but
for
the
moment
yes
and
if
not
then
we'll
need
someone
to
help
me
out.
B
Other
person
would
be
another
good
person
to
so
so
yeah,
let's,
let's
circle
back
to
that,
because
andy-
and
I
are
gonna-
be
talking
probably
next
week
about
some
of
the
stuff
that
he's
doing
various
projects
he's
working
on,
but
maybe
there's
some
there's
something
there
too
welcome.
Octopus
wait.
Is
this
the
octopus.
A
B
Well,
I
don't
know
if
you
can,
if
you
can
speak
right
now,
octopus
or
not,
but
if
not,
let
me
just
welcome
you
you're
here.
The
sample
call
it's
great
to
have
you
here.
B
But
we
are
about
to
wrap
up
and
we
ended
up
running
long
on
our
conversation
about
fundraising,
stuff
and
the
treasury
thing,
but
totally
worth
it.
So
I'm
going
to
take
this
the
other,
the
conversation
I
was
planning
to
have
asked
about
what
is
needed
what's
most
needed
right
now
in
the
field
of
token
engineering
and
how
that
fits
in
with
them.
B
Okay,
I
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
have
to
wrap
up,
but
so
for
next
week.
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
talk
I
want
to
talk
about
is,
as
we
think
about
the
token
curation
service,
how
we're
going
to
use
that
and
like
what
are
some
of
the.
B
B
B
Right,
who
are
the
folks
we
want
to
bring
in
and
what
would
we
want
them
to
be
able
to
do
in
the
tec
to
help
build
the
field?
Okay,
so
we'll
talk
about
that
more
next
week.
So
thank
you,
everybody
for
coming
today,
and
it's
super
great,
seeing
you
all
and
we'll
talk
next
week
have
a
good
rest
of
your
week.