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A
So,
following
the
traditional
proposal,
format
and
really
nailed
down
like
we
need
to
be
almost
flawless
in
terms
of
like
what
we're
asking
for
and
what
we're
going
to
execute
on,
and
so
how
much
money
we're
going
to
ask?
Let's
justify
the
amount
of
money
we're
asking
for
and
what?
How
do
we
manage
expectations
from
the
community
because
you
know
right
now:
we
want
to
be
incremental
in
our
gains.
We
want
to
get
this
process
done
right
and
then
we
can
look
for
bigger
gains
later
on.
A
In
my
opinion-
and
I
mean,
if
anybody
has
any
opposing
arguments
to
that
or
ways
we
should
move,
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
time
to
talk
about
it,
but
I
think
that
in
terms
of
priorities,
it's
the
proposal.
We
need
to
get
this
proposal
written
and
ready,
and
we
can
talk
about
the
details
and
hash
that
out
within
the
coming
week.
A
B
C
C
D
A
Yeah
and
so
the
the
alternative
to
not
having
a
multi-sig
is
that
we
we
allocate
small
amount
of
funds
to
individual
fund
managers,
and
so,
let's
say
zepty.
We
want
you
to
handle
the
year
in
finance
of
just
these
stable
coin
interest
rates,
maybe
on
curve
or
something
and
we'd
allocate
to
you
a
small
amount
of
money,
say
10
000
or
something
now.
If
we
do
do
this
route,
we
have
to
have
some
type
of
accountability,
and
so
the
only
way
I
can
think
of
this
happening
and
making
sure
that
we
have
this
transparency
around.
A
It
is
to
say
I
don't
know
if
anybody
knows
of
any
type
of
platform
that
offers
like
a
staking
slashing
as
a
service
where
you
stake
some
of
your
funds
that
you
have
say
an
equivalent
amount
and
or
slightly
less
that
says,
hey
okay.
Now,
if
you
take
this
money,
we
can
slash
your
funds
and
take
it
and
put
it
back
into
some
central
treasury,
but
outside
of
that,
I
don't
see
how
we
can
do
this
without
a
multi-sig.
You
know
saying
like:
is
there
an
alternate
other
alternative?
A
A
Okay,
yeah,
so
I
I
don't
know
if
you
can
take
this
down,
though
get
in
in
terms
of
I
kind
of
want
to
go
over
like
the
fundamental,
like
points
that
we
need
to
solve
before
we
move
forward,
and
I
think
the
multisig
is
one
of
them.
What
platform
we're
using
so
right
now,
most
of
d5
that
was
going
to
be
accessible
to
us
without
having
to
operate,
interchange
and
so
interchain
movement
is
another
one.
A
So
we
have
to
figure
out
how
we
do
that.
The
process
for
interchange
movements
from
x-die
to
ethereum,
to
optimism
if
we
want
to
go
layer
two
and
save
on
gas
fees.
These
are
important
questions
to
have
that
will
really
help
with
minimizing
the
cost
of
managing
these
funds,
and
then
we
have
outside
of
the
interchange.
A
What
we
use
for
so
curve
and
balancer
are
the
two
main
d5
platforms
that
are
being
utilized.
I
mean
even
urine
uses
curve
for
everything
if
you're
talking
about
yields
and
generating
yields
from
lp,
and
so
those
are
the
two
platforms
that
I
think
that
are
most
reliable
and
so
urine
can
be
used
to
for
curve.
But
those
are
the
two
that
we
need
to
evaluate,
in
my
opinion,
if
anybody
else
has
any
other
platforms
they
want
to
explore,
I
think
that
that
that
could
be
a
topic
for
what
we
go
through.
A
The
the
other
aspect
of
it
is
how
we
manage
the
the
returns.
So
what
exactly
are
we
funding?
You
know
how
much
of
the
the
percentage
goes
back
into
our
multi-sig.
What
percentage
goes
to
the
common
pool?
What
percentage
goes
to
buying
back
tec
tokens
like
how
do
we
strategize
the
use
of
the
returns
that
we
do
generate?
A
I
think
that
is
really
important
to
convey
to
the
community.
So
if
we
say
okay
we've,
you
know
made
five
thousand
dollars.
What
percentage
of
that
is
going
to
the
common
poll?
What
percentage
of
that
do
we
want
to
use,
for?
You,
know
tec,
buybacks
and
send
it
to
the
you
know:
reward
system
team
yeah.
A
So
we
have
to
have
a
conversation
about
how
we're
going
to
use
these
gains
and
what
they're
going
to
fund,
and
then
I
think
the
last
part
is
just
you
know:
how
do
we
provide
ultimate
transparency
over
all
these
processes?
A
So
yeah,
I
think
those
are
the
main
main
points
that
we
really
need
to
hammer
out
for
this
proposal
to
be
executed
on
and-
and
I
think
we
should
start
with
those
types
of
things
so.
C
The
only
thing
we
need
to
do
like
if
we
want
to
be
the
data
more
accessible
to
the
people,
we
could
do
a
report.
That's
that's
simple,
the
and
then
for
the
like
for
buying
back
this
yeah.
I
think
it'd
be
nice
if
we
just
put
all
the
money
into
the
common
pool
and
then
we
decide
like
the
word
holders,
decide
like
the
rewards
needs
money
for
the
rewards
just
make
a
proposal
on
conviction,
voting
and
then
boom.
That's
it.
I
really
think
like
we
should
keep
it
as
simple
as
possible.
C
E
Of
compounding
potentially
to
to
me
what,
but
sorry
I'm
like
talking
over
you
but
to
me
what's
what
has
me
out
of
most
cautious
about
this?
Is
that,
like
you
need
to
you
can
sort
of
model?
E
What
sort
of
api
you're
gonna
get
right,
because
I
assume
you're
not
going
to
go
in
any
risk
beyond
like
like
strong,
like
farming
protocols
like
so
from
that
you
can
sort
of
like
take
a
guess
at
what
the
the
the
profits
of
this
group
are
going
to
be
and
how
much
you'd
need
as
an
as
a
result,
because
you're
going
to
have
some
fixed
costs
and
there'd
be
no
point
in
running
the
group.
If
it's
not
going
to
like
create
profit
right.
A
A
Yeah
we'd
have
to
we'd
have
to
request
about
150
000.
If
we
wanted
to
generate
enough
enough
yield
to
actually
fund
or
to
see
the
returns
that
we
want
to
see
and-
and
that's
you
know
asking
for
that
amount
of
money,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
everything
hashed
out
before
then,
but
we're
also
on
a
time
crunch.
So
I
think
the
decision
makings
that
we
have
here
are
very
important
and
that
we
really
should
at
this
group,
especially,
should
really
be
focusing
on
this.
This.
This
upcoming
two
weeks.
D
So
one
other
thing
that
I've
been
thinking
about
with
this
is
it's
almost
like,
like
a
rapper
proposal
for-
or
maybe
we
just
attach
this
to
every
specific
proposal,
but
I
feel
like
we
need
some
type
of
kind
of
general
policy
about
investing
tec
funds
regarding
things
like
risk,
also,
for
example,
this
is
what
made
me
think
of
it
is
pulling
150k
out
of
the
common
pool
is
not
going
to
be
easy
at
this
point,
I'm
not
even
sure
like
I'm,
not
even
we
would
have
to
be
pretty
tough,
so
you
either
have.
C
C
C
A
C
A
A
This
is
how
we're
going
to
operate,
because
there's
a
lot
of
like
minute
decisions
like
the
the
gas
costs
themselves
are
going
to
be
insane,
and
so
I
honestly
think,
moving
to
a
layer,
two
on
ethereum
is
probably
the
best
route
for
us
to
go,
but
yeah
go
ahead.
F
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
like,
for
example,
what
will
be
the
sole
source
of
like
initial
look
at
the
will
it
be
just
only
common
pull.
I
was
remembering
grief,
we're
suggesting.
Maybe
we
can
like
comment
as
a
community
members
can
crowdfund
this
manager
money,
then
we
can
do
like
degeneration
stuff.
So,
for
example,
if
you
put
two
percent
of
the
initial
liquidity
as
an
individual,
you
can
get
back
from
two
percent
of
the
profits
kind
of
thing,
so
it
can
help
us
to
increase
liquidity
size
at
the
beginning.
F
But
that's
a
lot
of
like
question
arising
for
regarding
that.
So
is
it
like.
Should
we
how
how
much
each
person
can
put
in?
Who,
whom
do
we?
Whom
do
we
trust
like
should
can
can
we
see,
invest
in
our
funds,
etc?
So
it's
like
too
many
questions.
Maybe
I
don't
know
for
the
initial
step,
but
it's
just.
I
want
to
ask
like
what
do
you
guys
think
regarding
today's.
A
Kind
of
craft
like
a
crowd,
sourcing,
investment
capital
and
then
saying
we
if
you're
value-aligned
and
you
want
to
help
out.
We
can
split
the
the
gains
from
this.
F
A
You
know,
managing
their
expectations
of
returns
and
saying,
oh
there's
even
smaller
room
to
screw
up
or
even
smaller
room
to
have
a
you
know
a
down
market
and
and
have
to
you
know
I
don't
know
just
kind
of
manage
different
people
who
aren't
necessarily
part
of
the
community,
but.
A
Yeah,
but
it
it
could
tarnish
it
like
the
taking
the
risks
could
tarnish
tec
in
general.
You
know
if
we
have
this
collective
pool
of
funds,
that
a
bunch
of
people
are
expecting
to
see
returns
from
and
then
we
lose
that
money
or
they
don't
get
the
returns,
that
they
want
and
all
sudden
tec's
to
blame,
and
also
we
have
a
kind
of
a
pr
nightmare
which
is.
F
F
So
probably
the
chance
of
risk
is
considerably
lower
and
if
you
know
it
as
depth,
is
that,
like
you
know,
there
is
always
risk,
even
if
you
control
by
yourself.
I
know
this
can
create
some
pr
like
this
can
create
some
like
public
relationship
problems,
but
I
mean
at
the
end
we
should
consider
the
pros
and
cons.
I
believe
the
con,
the
like
the
possibility
of
cons
are
much
lower
and
also
maybe,
if
you
want,
we
can
create
some
sort
of
like
reputation
stuff
for
you
to
fund.
F
Maybe
you
should
be
part
of
the
community
if
you
want
to
invest
this
farm,
but
I
it's
again
a
problem
like
who
is
the
part
of
community
election?
Am
I
a
part
of
community
or,
like
stewards,
are
part
of
community
or
like
a
person
who
just
contributed
to
the
tc?
Is
he
part
of
the
community?
So
that's
again
problem,
but
my
perspective
is
that
we
shall
we
shall
allow
anyone
who
wants
to
to
support
token
engineering
commons
and
have
liquidity
to
participate.
This
action.
C
I
also
want
to
add
like
if
we,
if
we
fail
on
you,
know
on
this
treasury
management.
It
doesn't
matter
if
we
fail
with
common
pool
funds
or
you
know
other
people
like
it
will.
We
will
be
a
bad
stage
for
the
tc
anyway,
so
I
think
it's
worth
the
risk.
B
You
know
some
cost
benefit
analysis
of
of
this
idea
and
and
see
if
it's
really
viable
and
if
it's,
if
it's
truly
gonna,
bring
the
benefit,
we
think
it's
gonna
bring
to
the
tc,
because
right
now,
I'm
thinking
with
what
nate
was
mentioning
mentioning
about,
having
to
invest
probably
around
150k,
to
generate
meaningful
yield.
B
Couldn't
we
maybe
invest
those
150k
into
actual
products
and
services
and
other
initiatives
in
the
tc
that
are
more
aligned
to
what
we
are
building
and
what
we're
doing,
instead
of
risking
them
and
not
being
really
sure,
what's
going
to
happen
with
those
phones
and
maybe
also
kind
of
like
losing
a
track
in
our
way,
you
know,
I
I
feel
like
the
tc
has
a
mission
and
our
main
focus
should
be
to
deliver
on
that
mission,
and
I
feel
that
these
resources,
maybe
could
be
better
used
somewhere
else.
D
Actually,
let
me
I'd
like
to
add
on
to
that
point,
because
I
think
there's
another
factor
too
like
if
we
pull
150k
out,
let's
say
we're
able
to
do
that.
That
will
accelerate
the
making
it
much
harder
to
pass
anything
else
in
the
conviction.
Voting,
probably
good,
actually
to
do
that
like
that,
would
actually
accelerate
slowing
down
tec
spending.
D
So
that's
that's,
probably
a
good
thing,
but
I
actually
what
baker's
talking
about
resonates
with
me?
It's
like
my
sense,
is
if
we
were
to
take
the
150k
and
invested
in
something
that
really
you
know,
could
could
generate
some
value
for
the
tc.
That's
that's
probably
a
better
investment,
but
maybe
what
we're
talking
about
is
you
know
we
don't
know
what
those
plans
are.
Yet
you
know
we're
still
formatting
those
those
those
plans.
D
So
it's
like
thinking
about
this
really
from
like
a
portfolio
management
perspective
of
like
we've
got
free
cash
right
now,
we've
got,
we've
got
cash,
that's
not
working
for
us,
and
so,
if
we
think
about
how
do
we
use
this
cash
for
periods
of
time
when
we're
not
putting
it
to
work
with
our
own
tec
investments
and
then
like
really
managing
it
from
that
perspective
of
like
well,
we
know
that
for
the
next
six
months,
this
is
150
k
that
we
just
want
to
sock
away,
make
it
harder
to
do
conviction,
voting
slow
down
our
spending
and
then
get
it
back
in
six
months.
A
I
I
agree
with
that.
100,
and
the
thing
is,
is
that
you
know
right
now
we're
feeling
a
lot
of
pressure
from
the
community
to
actually
make
money
off
of
this
type
of
treasury
management
approach,
and
you
know
trent
made
that
statement
of
learn
go,
get
money
but
like
this
takes
time
and
I
feel
like
if
we
rush
it,
we
are
going
to
fail
and
and
having
a
treasury.
This
is
something
that's
just
inevitable.
A
The
tec
will
have
a
treasury
and
we'll
have
these
types
of
funds
invested,
but
we've
got
to
make
sure
we
do
it
right
and
if
we
keep
having
these
pressures
from
the
outside
to
do
this
quickly,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
really
difficult
for
us
to
perform.
Well-
and
I
don't
know
if
what
we
can
do
in
order
to
like
mitigate
that,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
do.
F
F
We
shouldn't
go
so
risky
so
and
the
from
my
like,
I'm
not
super
like
experienced
in
treasure
management
stuff.
But
as
far
as
I
see
with
this
low
risk
approach,
people
make
some
money
which
is
not
like
super
big
but
can
be
meaningful.
For
example,
can
fund
one
proposal
in
some
for
three
months
for,
like
16k
proposal
can
be
funded
by
this
management
stuff,
which
will
be
a
positive
impact
at
the
end.
A
Yeah
and-
and
I
think
you
know-
I
was
looking
at
the
different
opportunities
for
that
and,
like
the
balancer,
for
example,
has
this
50
50
50
pool
with
ethan
and
usdc,
and
I
do
think
that's
a
really
it
offers
13
and
I
think
that
just
having
it
sit
there,
half
of
it
and
stable
stablecoin
and
half
of
it
and
a
very
underappreciated
asset
at
the
moment,
and
that
can
appreciate
over
time
is
really
a
really
good
proposition
at
the
right
now.
A
However,
I
do
think
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
as
a
group
right
now
have
to
figure
out,
and
so
I
think,
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
go
about
incrementally,
knocking
these
things
out
in
terms
of
not
only
formulating
this
proposal.
But
how
do
we
manage
decision
making
within
within
this
this
fund?
Who
who's
able
to
do
these
things?
A
Are
we
capable
of
doing
it
because,
like
I
said,
I've
tried
using
the
gnosis
multisig
interface
with
these
d5
protocols,
and
it's
just
it's
not
it's
just
not
there
yet,
and
so
that's
a
huge
challenge
in
a
lot
of
ways.
So
I
don't
know.
D
Hey
one
thing
that
so
I
just
want
to
pick
up
on,
because
we've
got
25
minutes
left
on
this.
D
I
one
I
want
to
pick
up
on
the
thing
you
said
earlier
nate,
what
if
we
did
just
like
10k
right,
but
the
real
focus
10k
in
the
beginning
right,
and
we
try
to
get
this
done
in
the
next
couple
weeks
right
and
but
the
real
focus
of
that
10k
investment
is,
like
you
said
it's
to
to
prove
that
we
know
what
the
hell
we're
doing
like
figure
out
what
the
logistics
of
it
are
in
a
way
where
there's
not
that
much
at
risk.
D
But
the
thing
that
we're
really
doing
is
we're
actually
putting
together
a
policy.
That's
like
the
rapper
policy.
That's
like
here's!
How
you
know:
here's
the
risk
tolerance
we're
going
to
take
with
you
know
it's
like
a
philosophical
proposal
with
a
little
bit
of
money
attached
to
it
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
show
the
community
is
like
here's.
What
we're
thinking
about
the
general
philosophy
and
the
general
policy
that
we
want
to
take
for
treasury
management?
D
A
No,
I
was
gonna
say
I
think,
that's
the
the
best
way.
That's
the
next
step.
We
do
yeah
for
sure.
I
think
we
start
incremental
and
show
that
we
know
how
to
do
this
process
and
we've.
We
hash
out
all
the
difficult
decision,
makings
that
we
have
to
have
to
have.
A
In
order
for
this
to
be
successful,
then
we
expand
it
from
there
and
I
would
even
include
like
your
idea
of
like
the
crowdsourcing
thing,
even
if
it
starts
off
like
have
you
ever
used
the
pi
dial
their
index
tokens
and
maybe
having
kind
of
like
a
region
see
if
we
can
at
least
solicit
participants
to
participate
in
like
creating
like
an
index
of
like
refi
tokens
and
see
how
that
that
goes
and
and
maybe
even
kind
of
have
these
different
branches,
where
we
start
exploring
different
ways
of
doing
this,
but
yeah
it.
A
Really.
It
comes
down
to
to
hashing
out
these
like
minute
details
and
that's
something
that
we
may
have
to
focus
on,
even
like
just
having
more
meetings
and
or
having
the
shared
document
and
really
focusing
on
it,
because
this
is
going
to
take
some
focus
for
all
of
us
and
we
really
need
to
be
committed
to
it.
F
Just
I
think,
gideon
that's
very,
very
good
idea
and
it
may
show
community.
We
can
do
that
stuff,
but
I
think
what
is
missing
in
this
thing
is
like
who,
like
the
very
fundamental
question
of
like
who
will
do
to
this
management
stuff
like,
for
example,
like
you
know,
the
treasury
management
is
like
very
specialized.
F
Of
course,
like
I
don't
suggest
that
we
should
just
let
one
kind
of
quote-unquote
expert
to
do
all
the
things
but
like
I
think
we
should
figure
out
like
who
will
be
responsible
of
having
some
decision.
That
may
be
check,
checked
and
balanced
by
the
community
itself,
but
I
think
in
this
picture
what
I
see
missing
is
like
who
will
like,
for
example,
who
will
be
deciding
that?
F
A
You
know
like,
like
I
said
the
the
most
ideal
would
be
to
have
a
multi-sig
where
we
have
a
kind
of
a
board
that
says:
okay,
we're
going
to
make
this
decision.
We
all
sign
off
on
that
decision
within
on
chain,
but
but,
as
I
said
before,
if
you
go
to
gnosis
multisig
and
interact
with
the
interfaces
of
these
d5
adapts
it's
it's
nearly
you
know
it
doesn't
have
the
full
functionality,
and
so
we
really
need
to
really
explore
this
fundamental
space.
Yeah.
F
They
believe
the
treasure
management
strategy
they
should
pursue
in,
at
the
in
the
lights
of
our
perspective,
that
we
will
bring
to
this
treasury
manager,
like
we
will
say:
okay,
this
is
wage
money.
You
should
not
be
risky
whatever
whatever
and
then
we
will
give
some
ideas
and
the
treasury
strategists,
let's
say,
will
create
probably
a
strategy
in
the
midst
of
these
discussions,
so
I
mean
yeah,
of
course,
like
we
won't
go
very
probably
we
shouldn't
go
very
aggressive.
I
totally.
I
just
want
to
make
my
point.
A
How
do
we
trust
this
person
is
not
going
to
use
this
capital
and
just
make
money
and
then
take
it
and
not
send
it
back
to
the
thing,
so
you
need
to
have
somebody
who's
very
trustful
and
or
we
need
to
have
some
type
of
staking
slashing
mechanism,
and
so
I
don't
know
if,
like
long
tail,
financial
or
anybody
else
in
the
space
knows
of
a
like
a
steak,
slash
as
a
service,
but
I
think
it's
really
really
important
to
have
that
type
of
feature.
A
If
you
were
to
have
this
type
of
aggressive
investment
strategy,
where
somebody
is
actively
managing
day-to-day
transaction
transaction,
keeping
an
eye
on
things
wanting
to
do
arbitrage
wanting
to
do
all
these
different
things
right
now
like
I,
my
thing
is
like:
let's
do
you
know,
set
apy
of
12,
find
it
find
liquidity
pool
half
of
its
stables,
half
of
it
a
blue
chip.
D
Yeah,
I
think
nt's
was
trying
to
make
a
point.
G
Yeah,
I
have
a
couple
of
things
to
say.
First
of
all,
I
think
of
the
most
probably
the
the
first
thing
we
should
be
looking
for
is
like
a
probably
like
something
like
a
common
definition
of
risk
tolerance
or
something
like
that,
because
I
think
that's
going
to
influence
all
the
other
decisions
like
say,
the
multisig
setup
or
or,
however,
we
decide
to
manage
the
funds
because,
like
I
think
it
was
angela
a
few
weeks
ago,
that
said
that
it's
quite
hard
to
have
to
be
controlling
a
fund.
G
If
you
have
to
wait
for
people
to
sign
in
right-
and
so
I
guess,
if
we
just
do
a
stable
confirming
on
ave
or
something
like
that,
it's
pretty
straightforward,
we
can
use
a
multisig,
but
as
the
strategies
become
more
risky,
it's
going
to
be
harder
to
prob
to
make
proper
decisions
with
the
multisieve.
G
That's
one,
then,
about
the
first
proposal
of
asking
for
say,
10k.
I
think
that's
cool,
but
I
think
there's
like
we
can
also
do
like.
We
could
test
out
probably
90
percent
of
the
strategy
using
a
test
net,
because
you
know
all
the
all.
G
The
applications
are
on
test
nets
and
tokens
on
test
net
have
a
price,
even
though
it
might
not
be
the
real
price,
and
so
we
can
figure
out
a
lot
of
strategies
and
procedures
and
policies
using
a
test
assessment
without
having
to
without
having
any
cost
with
it.
Right.
That's
great.
A
G
G
G
I
think
I've
said
this
a
few
times,
there's
groups
that
are
dedicated
to
fund
management
and
I'm
not
entirely
sold
on
the
idea,
but
I
also
think
that
we
should
be
getting
in
contact
with
them
and
just
you
know,
seeing
what
do
they
offer
and
you
know
what's
the
strategy
or
whatever,
because
you
know
if
we
can
find
someone
with
say
enough
reputation
in
a
in
a
great
policy,
and
you
know
we
we
we
can
just
establish
a
good
relationship.
G
C
That's
something
I
also
wanted
to
commend
when
nate
was
talking
about,
like
the
10k
thing,
like
no
one,
no
fund
management.
No,
no
one
knows
the
future.
Like
all
these
funds
management
people
in
the
crypto
space
are
all
there
are
pro
like
all
are
broke
almost
so
there's
no
one
who
knows
what
the
market
will
do,
so
we
should
remove
that
from
our
head,
like
I
personally,
wouldn't
trust.
Put
my
my
personal
money
on
no
one.
E
C
I
I
didn't
finish,
but
I
also
was
wanted
to
talk
about
what
nate
was
talking
about.
The
10k
thing
like
you,
and
you
know
this
20
on
ustc
rapid
eat
is
something
I
would
personally
also
do
and
it
could
go
good
with
the
10k,
but
then
you
get
the
150k
that
doesn't
guarantee.
That
is
going
to
be
good
in
the
future.
So
that's
something
like
I
feel
like
the
theme
of
the
10k.
C
G
G
Can
we
have
a
person
or
a
group
of
people,
24
7,
looking
at
our
investments?
That's
that's
sort
of
the
key
is
like
if
we
end
up
investing
in,
say,
ethereum
or
something
like
that,
and
suddenly
the
price
drops
a
lot
or
something
happens.
Who
is
going
to
be
able
to
execute
that
transaction
in
a
timely
manner?
Because
the
markets
are
all
about
time?
G
And
you
know
we
are
people
with
the
best
interest
with
the
best
interest
of
the
tc
in
mind,
but
we
have,
I
think,
all
of
us
here
have
all
the
responsibilities
so
that
that's
probably
besides
the
strategy
itself.
That's
probably
my
biggest
concern.
C
So
it's
not
like,
and
if
you
have
in
in
finance,
you
could
have
a
stop
loss
if
you
want,
but
where,
like
no
one
is
awake,
24
hours
and
I
can
what's
what
they
are
not
proved
to
be
working
as
it's
a
you
know,
safe
income
like
again
like
what
I'm
trying
to
say
like
no
one
knows
the
market
and
like
what
we
should
do
is
like
do
risk
management
like
okay.
We
have
some
amount
on
on
it,
but
you
know
this
20
usd.
C
A
And
and
so
like,
there's
a
lot
of
little
small
decisions
that
we
need
to
make
within
the
next
couple
weeks,
and
so
what
I
wanted
to
ask
about
in
the
last
10
minutes
was
was
to
ask
each
of
you
like
what
area
are
you
willing
to
kind
of
explore
and
tackle
because
there's
a
lot
of
fundamental
problems
that
we're
we're
trying
to
face
here
and
if
there's
one
thing
that
you
could
choose
to
explore
and
kind
of
say:
hey,
I'm
going
to
to
to
just
kind
of
explore
the
ins
and
outs
and
present
this
for
next
week.
A
What
what
topic
would
it
be,
and
are
you
willing
to
do
that
because
I
do
think
figuring
out
how
we
approach
this
is
really
important,
because
if
we're
you
know,
like
you
said
zepty
like
you
know,
I
don't
think
anybody
knows
exactly
what
they're
doing
within
treasure:
fund
management
and
treasury
management
at
the
moment,
and
so,
let's
take
it
back
to
first
principles.
A
A
So
I
don't
know
if
we
each
want
to
take
a
minute
on
on
what
what's
something
that
interests
you
and
you're
willing
to
work
on
yeah,
and
so
I
guess
I'll
start
off
and
I'll
say
that
I
think
I
wanted
to
explore
more
in
depth
about
this
multi-sigma
multi-sig
wallets
and
how
we
use
them
to
move
money
around
to
different
chains
to
to
you
know
who
who's
going
to
be
on
the
multisig
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
that's
the
one
thing
that
I
really
want
to
present
for
next
week.
C
And
yeah,
I
wanted
to
see,
like
I'm,
also
interested
in
this
topic
as
same
as
you
and
then
something
that.
F
C
Like
leveraged
trading,
like,
I
think,
that's
very
risky
and
yeah,
I
would
you
know
like
I
would
you
know
the
thing
is
like
everyone
would
manage
it?
Oh
they
do
it
with
their
personal
finances.
I
would
have
like
zero
leveraging
like
have
diversification
safe
places
like
I
wouldn't
put
my
money
on
luna
and
stuff
like
that.
A
A
C
A
G
I
wrote
that
already,
but
pretty
much,
I'm
I'm
quite
down
to
test
out
of
the
apps
and
whatever
in
in
the
tooling.
We
we
may,
we
may
or
may
not
end
up
using
like
I
could,
if
I,
if,
after
we
get
probably
like
the
assets-
and
you
know
whatever
I
can,
I'm
like,
I
can
easily
go
to
the
test
net
without
no
problem
and
myself.
A
G
Oh
yes,
sorry
to
you
bear.
B
Yeah,
so,
oh
sorry,
you
said
myrtle
or
bear
yeah
you,
okay
yeah.
So
for
me
I
I
wouldn't
really
know
because
I
I
don't
feel
you
know
like
confident
enough
to
to
kind
of
like
look
into
this
kind
of
technical
thing,
but
I
would
say
I
could
offer
like
support
for
anything
that
is
required
if
you
guys
need
some
kind
of
support
and
also
for
me,
it's
really
important
to
to
this
initiative
is
just
aligned
into
what
we're
doing
as
a
as
a
as
an
organization
so
yeah,
I
wouldn't.
A
I
mean
yeah.
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
like
opportunity
there
to
explore
like
what
would
be
acceptable
for
the
tec
community
and
like
what
are
the
types
of
investments
that
would
be
aligned
with
the
tec
mission,
like
I
think
you
know
things
that
I
can't
even
think
of
right
now
might
exist
out
there
and
it
could
be
explored.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
you'd
be
willing
to
to
look
into.
G
B
Yeah
any
spreadsheet
guys
I
love
making
them
so
just
let
me
know-
and
I
can
do
that.
D
I
I'm
most
interested
in
this
question
of
risk
and
what's
acceptable
risk
for
the
tec
and
and
also
nate
I'd
like
to
work
with
you
on
like
how
we
integrate
this
into
like
the
decision
making
process
for
the
tdc
like
how
do
how
do
we
kind
of
like
break
this
up
into
like
some
proposals,
and
things
like
that.
F
A
Be
like
we
have
to
be
flawless
in
this
proposal.
If
we
do
this,
we
have
to
instill
trust
that
right
at
the
beginning
and
maintain
that
trust
throughout,
because
it's
it's
a
very
delicate
dance
with
this
topic.
People
are
even
not
not
part
of
this
meeting
or
going
to
be
having
their
eyes
on
it.
Like
we're,
gonna
be
watched,
so
yeah
mert.
How
about
you
you
there.
A
We
may
have
lost
murder
but
yeah,
so
I
I
think
this
this
approach
is
really
important.
I
think
that
you
know
if
we
can
all
contribute
our
own
little
interests
and
you
know,
keep
us
engaged
with
how
we
do
this.
We
can
start
getting
all
the
information
that
we
need
in
order
to
make
this
proposal
more
comprehensive,
and
so
we
can.
A
A
This
is
how
we,
I
would
do
it
and
let's
explore
those
options,
because
we
really
got
to
get
the
ball
rolling
if
we
want
to
keep
the
momentum
and
making
sure
that
we
have
the
attention
of
the
community,
but
also
you
know,
we
want
to
get
something
on
paper
and
saying:
hey:
let's
get
this
proposal,
format
ready
and
you
know,
if
we
can,
the
test
net
would
be
amazing.
I
really
do
think
that's
the
best
best
move,
because
we
can
do
a
lot
of
modeling
with
that
as
well.
D
And
yeah,
I
I'm
I'm
happy
to
help
set
up
like
actually
there's
there's
so
much
that
we
can
do
with
the
one
note
with
sorry
for
one
note
with
clarity,
and
I
think
that
it's
going
to
be
super
important
for
us
to
do
asynchronous
progress
with
this
like
if
we.
C
D
To
just
move
forward
once
a
week,
we're
not
going
to
get
this
done
in
time,
so
we,
I
think
we
have
to
continue
to
make
progress
over
the
course
of
the
week,
and
I
think
clarity
will
help
with
that
and
anti
and
bear,
and
I
are
doing
a
lot
of
work
with
with
clarity
and
like
trying
to
make
be
able
to
use
it
to
manage
projects
so
nate.
We
can
follow
up
separately
on
that
and
kind
of
support
you
with
like
figuring
out
how
to
frame
this.
A
Yeah-
and
I
I
think
you
know
I
one
what
my
initial
idea
was
to
create
notes
and
each
note
would
be
kind
of
like
these
are
very
touchy
topics
that
could
you
know
we
need
to
have
collective,
unanimous
consent
on
how
we
do
these
things,
and
I
would
love
to
have
people's
comments
in
there
ideas
things
things
that
I'm
not
thinking
of
or
people.
You
know
you
know
experiences
you've
had
within
your
own
investment
strategies
like
these
are
the
things
that
are
really
valuable
in
terms
of
making
these
decisions
and
so
yeah.
A
I
I
would
say,
keep
an
eye
on
the
notes
section
of
the
clarity,
and
I
think,
if
you
can
just
add,
add
your
thoughts.
Just
add
how
you
would
do
it.
You
know
that's
what
I
really
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
would
want
to
hear
from
everybody
it's
just
like.
How
would
you
run
this
yourself
because
I,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
ideas
that
can
spring
out
of
that
and
we
can
narrow
our
consensus
around
how
we
how
we
approach
it.
D
So
maybe
nate
what
we
can
do
is
sometime
over
the
next
day
or
two,
just
you,
and
I
like-
have
a
side
conversation
like
set
up
like
some
kind
of
structure
for
notes
and
stuff
like
that,
so
that
you
can
get
people
contributing
the
kinds
of
things
you
think
are
most
valuable.
You
wanna
do
that.
That
sounds.
D
Before
we
leave,
I,
I
think
the
other
thing
is
we
should
if
we
should
confirm
if
this
is
like
a
regular
meeting
and
and
whether
yeah
do
we
want
to
just
keep
going
with
this
time.
A
I
I
think
so,
unless
like
I
would
prefer
that
we
do
this
async.
To
be
honest
with
you,
I
think
you
know
we
can
have
like
impromptu
meetings
that
we
can
call
if,
if
need
be
and
and
maybe
revisit,
I
think
maybe
next
week-
we
do
it
just
because,
like
just
to
get
back
on
page
with
everyone,
but
let's,
let's,
let's
really
focus
on
trying
to
get
async
work
going
in
this
group.
C
I
think
like
we
could
keep
like
the
async
work,
but
then
we
come
once
a
week
here
and
then
sing
with
the
rest
of
the
team
like
if
we
are
doing
different
work
streams.
It's
good.
If
we
synchro
newly,
at
least
you
know
like
the
every
work
stream
is
going
to
be
advancing
during
the
course
of
the
week.
But
then
this
time
of
the
week
like
we
just
get
sure
like
everything
is
going
like
yeah,
the
whole
systems
are
going,
the
same,
wrote
and
then
also
sharing
shape,
sharing
progress.
A
And
honestly,
I'd
like
to
see
like
even
more
more
structure
like
so
if
we
say
next
next
meeting,
we
have,
let's
spend
15
minutes
on
each
of
the
notes
that
we've
put
up
and
and
our
comments
on
those
notes,
and
so
let's
just
explore
those
and
and
see
if
we
can
have
these
kind
of
incremental.
This
is
the
path
forward
this.
This
is
the
decision
we
made
it
next
decision
next
decision
so
on
and
so
on.
So
yeah
I'm
down
to
figure
this
async
thing
out,
because
I
do
think
it's
extremely
valuable.
D
D
D
And
like
bear
as
organized
sample
organizer,
would
you
be
willing
to
set
up
like
a
set
up
that
next
event
for
us.
B
Yeah,
the
thing
is
that,
for
example,
for
discord-
I
don't
have
the
permissions
to
do
that.
I
think
auntie
is
the
one.