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A
Hey
livia,
would
you
mind
reading
the
the
sampo
description
for
us,
I
can
send
you.
C
Sample
is
the
finnish
mythic
horn
of
plenty,
it
symbolizes
this
working
group
purpose,
mission-driven,
community-owned
and
governed
and
governed
capital
to
advance
the
field
of
token
engineering.
We
focus
on
financial
management,
income
generation
and
the
economic
development
that
builds
demand
for
the
tc
token.
A
A
A
F
Oh
man,
that's
so
that's
so
hard
there's!
So
many
I
I
mean
I
have
to
say
the
token
we
are
literally
able
to
you
know:
tokenize
like
having
it.
Our
own
economy
gives
us
so
many
options
to
play
with
it.
F
I
I
I
do
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
other
higher
potentials
for
value,
like
you
know,
token,
engineering
attention
and
and
these
sorts
of
things-
and
I
I
think
a
close
second-
is
the
actual
reputation
that
we
have
but
number
one
and
like
the
credibility
and
the
branding,
and
this
sort
of
thing
that
we've
built
already
is
really
high,
but
I
have
to
give
it
to
the
token
to
have
a
a
actual
token,
backed
by
bonding
curve
is,
is
a
really
huge
benefit,
I'll
pass
it
to
cryptozac.
F
B
D
Kind
of
seemingly
minimal,
but
there
is
such
power
in
the
name,
token
imaginary,
comments
where
people
come
through
the
door
with
some
huge
expectations
of
value
and
of
insight,
and
it's
it's
powerful
to
be
able
to.
You
know
in
the
future
direct
that
towards
services
towards
what
people
expect
to
find
when
they,
when
they
come
to
the
door.
So
that's
something
that
I've
heard
from
multiple
people.
G
So,
for
me,
I
think
it
would
be
the
culture
and
and
the
community
as
well.
I
think
the
fact
of
being
able
to
start
working
in
something
like
talking,
engineering
and
organizing
ourselves
in
the
way
we're
doing
it.
I
think
it's
really
innovative.
You
know
this
whole
idea
of
a
dao
and
the
fact
that
we're
actually
achieving
it
and
we're
moving
forward
and
there's
been
process
happening.
G
G
For
me,
the
most
valuable
resource
we
have
is
like
yeah.
The
grief
mention
also
the
reputation,
and
you
know
the
things
we
created
like
like,
I
feel
like
we
have
very
like
good
tooling,
like
you
know
this
config
dashboard
the
reward
dashboard
all
that
stuff
like
it's
very
awesome
and
we
have
it
there
and
I
think,
like
we
should
get
yeah.
We
should
advertise
it
more.
Let
the
world
know
that
we
have
it
so
yeah
like
and
you
know
like
the
education
like
the
thesis
promoting
like
with
you,
know
our
economy
of
choice.
G
All
this
stuff,
I
think,
like
you,
we
really
need
to
get
the
world
to
know
that
and
yeah,
and
I
don't
know
like
I
feel
like
I
don't
know
how
to
you
know
like.
I
see
the
value
in
like
because
it's
like
common
good,
like
you
know
the
value
of
the
roads.
You
know
the
value
is
there,
but
this
it's
hard
to
capitalize
it,
and
I
don't
know,
but
I
feel
like
this
is
what
is
bringing
more
value
to
the
world
so
that
we
are
doing
right
now.
G
C
Thank
you
yeah,
I
would
also
say,
is
the
culture
I
think
the
way
in
which
we
do
things
power,
the
value
of
other
things
that
might
happen
here,
so
the
processes,
the
rituals,
the
way
people
treat
each
other
the
way
we've
been
acknowledging
and
rewarding
value
and
yeah.
Just
everything
has
been
created
within
a
certain
in
a
certain
way
in
the
tc,
and
I
think
that
is
very
valuable
and
it's
something
that
brings
reputation
and
that
probably
helped
to
bring
value.
To
the
token
too,.
C
I
think
rex
did
you
go.
B
Oh
thanks,
I
think
maybe
there's
there's
a
lot
of
things
in
the
tc
that
have
value
that.
Maybe
I
haven't
even
considered
because
I'm
still
pretty
new,
but
I
certainly
would
say
that
kind
of
not
only
the
community
but
like
the
environment.
That's
fostered,
and
the
kind
of
the
mindset
that
everybody
in
in
the
tc
seems
to
have
is
very
positive,
and
I
think
it's
it's
something
that
will
keep
the
keep
the
product
going.
A
Awesome,
thank
you.
Hey
durgados,
welcome.
We
we're
opening
up
with
a
question.
The
question
is,
what
do
you
see
is
the
greatest
source
of
value
in
the
tec
today.
E
Well,
for
me,
you
know
the
culture
and
and
the
ethics
and
the
the
culture
and
the
people
you
know,
combining
together
to
create
and
operate
in
ethical
ways
is
for
me
the
greatest
value.
I
think
I
say
a
lot
that
it's
my
view
that.
E
You
know,
without
that
you
just
have
a
technology
right,
so
it
seems
to
me
that
there
should
be
an
underlying
practical
philosophy
behind
the
technology
and
a
kind
of
humility
to
push
it
forward.
You
know
so
yeah,
that's
that's
kind
of
my
view
and
you
can
see
this
people
create.
You
know
great
technologies.
E
E
You
know
the
tech
that
they
were
building
and
they
were
just
built
something
fast
and
got
it
out,
and
yet
you
know
resentment
and
other
things
come
up
as
a
result,
instead
of
being
able
to
ritualize
some
kind
of
conflict,
I
feel
like
we're
we're
a
bit
more
mindful
of
that
in
this
group
than
other
groups
that
I
participate
in.
A
Awesome,
thank
you.
Chewie
welcome
great
to
have
you
here
so
the
question
that
we're
opening
up
with
is
what
do
you
see
as
the
greatest
source
of
value
in
the
tec
right
now,.
H
I
think
it's
a
tough
one,
because
it's
like
a
it's,
been
like
a
constant
rediscovery
journey
like
through
different
stuff,
like
of
course
the
culture
I
think
is
one,
but
at
some
points
I
feel
that
just
the
bonding
curve
and
all
of
these
like
ideas
and
just
the
the
model
itself
being
like
a
first
time
in
in
how
it
it
faces,
challenges
so
like
to
wrap
it
all
up.
H
I
would
say
that
maybe
this
like
diversity
around
the
maybe
like
the
narrative,
but
I
feel
that
there
are
like
many
timelines
that
you
can
be
following
and
just
like
identify
and
interact
with
whatever,
like
you
feel
or
you
identify
with
it,
the
most
so
yeah
I'll
pass
it
back
to
you
get
it.
A
Great,
thank
you
super
interesting,
I'm
gonna
just
say
for
me.
I
I
think
if
I
had
to
boil
down
to
one
thing,
I
still
think
it's
culture
just
super
powerful.
It's
like
I've,
never
seen.
I
haven't
seen
anything
quite
like
it
in
any
other
organization.
I've
been
in
and
I
think
it's
super
powerful.
It's
like
a
giant
magnet
and
it's
like.
We
are
gonna.
Once
we
get
the
systems
in
place,
we're
gonna
be
able
to
draw
in
this
culture
in
some
really
powerful
ways.
I
mean
even.
E
A
Than
we
are
today
so
okay!
Well,
thank
you
everybody!
So
one
quick
update
here,
here's
what
I'd
like
to
do
today
is.
I
want
to
just
do
like
an
update
on
where
things
are
with
that
strategy
doc
and
that
process
of
getting
feedback.
A
On
that
advice
on
that
and
and
by
the
way
you
know
these,
I
I
try
to
every
like
at
least
a
day
before
we
meet,
I
try
to
publish
our
agenda
in
the
sampo
base
up
on
clarity,
so
you
can
always
get
to
that
and
I
try
to
publish
it
in
the
channel
a
day
before
so
you're
welcome
to
add
to
it
like
add
notes
or
whatever,
but.
A
The
way
like
google
docs
does
right
now,
so,
okay,
so
today,
just
a
quick
update
on
the
sample
strategy,
doc
and
and
the
advice
process,
an
update
on
what's
happening
with
analysts
and
and
and
transparency,
and
then
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
spend
a
little
bit
more
time
talking
about
slowing
the
spending
and
what
that
what
that
should
probably
look
like
like
what
what
our
ideal
picture
of
that
would
be.
A
So
let
me
pause
for
one
sec.
Does
anybody
else
have
anything
urgent
that
you
would
like
or
important
that
you'd
like
to
add.
A
I'm
sitting
there
talking
with
the
mic
off
okay.
Basically,
I
was
doing
a
countdown
and
saying
that
I
can
never
get
my
fingers
to
go
to
match
the
count
so,
okay,
so
then,
let's
dive
in
so
sample
strategy
update.
The
document
is
here
in
the
agenda.
It's
also
in
the
channel,
and
so
it
would
be
great
if
y'all
could,
even
if
you're
short
on
time,
just
skim
it,
because
I've
tried
to
structure
it
so
that
it's
pretty
easy
to
follow
the
argument
all
the
way
through
it.
A
But
the
next
step
is
that
on
thursday,
I'm
gonna
do
kind
of
the
same
walkthrough
that
we
all
did
last
week,
but
with
the
stewards
and
so
we're
gonna,
just
basically
start
to
kind
of
like
expand
the
circle
in
the
advice
process
on
this.
So
you
all
are
like
the
center
of
that
right
now,
and
so
it
would
be
great
to
get
your
thoughts
on
it
it
you
know
any
kind
of
feedback
that
you
have
gene
and
bear.
Thank
you
for
your
comments
on
it
and
gene
in
particular
man.
A
I
think
that
libby
and
I
are
olivia-
and
I
are
gonna
talk
after
this
call,
but
I
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
like
what
will
where
this
goes
eventually
and
whether
this
becomes
like
a
post
on
the
forum
or,
like
a
summary
of
it,
goes
up
there.
So
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
try
to
get
olivia's
advice
on
that
after
this
call,
but
if
anybody
has
any
thoughts
on
that
right
now,
that
would
be
great.
A
No
welcome
so.
A
One
thing
that
I
part
of
the
reason
for
doing
that
document
is
because
one
I
think
that
it's
gonna
just
help
us
to
stay
in
sync,
with,
like
a
longer
term
vision
for
what
it
is
that
we're
actually
trying
to
do
here
and
then
the
second
thing
is,
I
think
that
a
lot
of
the
narrative
that's
in
there
will
be
useful
for
fundraising,
like
I
think
that
we'll
be
able
to
pick
off
some
actual.
A
A
A
It's
like
how
do
we
continue
to
invest
in
ourselves
in
ways
that
you
know
with
the
proposals
that
we
pass
so
that
they're
building
for
the
long
term,
and
so
that's
some
of
the
stuff
I
want
to
come
to
in
just
a
bit,
but
that's
that's
why
it's
important
to
get
the
feedback
on
this
right
now
so
before
we
go
to
the
next
topic,
is
there
any
comments
or
thoughts.
A
Okay,
all
right
so
quick
update
on
there's
been
actually
a
fair
amount
of
action
going
on
with
you
know
what
we
have
been
calling
the
analysts,
like
the
sample
analysts,
but
basically
we
had
a
good
call
and
then
zepty
and
I
have
had
back
and
forth
to
just
try
to
kind
of
like
first
of
all
figure
out
how
does
sample
and
transparency?
How
do
we
work
together
in
a
way
that
just
doesn't
replicate
work
at
a
time
when
we
cannot
afford
to
replicate
work
right?
A
So
I
think
we
came
up
with
kind
of
a
good
I.
What
seems
like
a
good
approach,
which
is
that
this
this
sample
analyst,
is
not
like
a
standing
work
team
that
meets
every
you
know
week
or
every
or
even
every
other
week.
It's
like
this
thing
kind
of
like
comes
and
goes
as
needed
right,
so
we
dissolve
it
and
then
the
next
push
that
we
need.
We
just
like
reconstitute
it
right.
A
It's
like
those
little
sea
monkeys
that
they
used
to
have
like
where
you
could
just
like
they
can,
they
could
freeze,
and
then
you
put
water
on
them
and
they
come
back
up.
So
and
then
the
idea
would
be
that
the
analysts,
like
this
group,
actually
makes
requests
we're
almost
like
an
internal
customer
to
the
transparency.
A
Quick,
like
that's,
that's
the
goals
like
get
a
fast
turnaround
going
so
we're
meeting
tomorrow
to
try
to
like
lock
this
down,
but
the
basic
idea
that
we're
thinking
about
is
a
new
little
section
in
the
dune
analytics
dashboard.
That
would
have
like
the
following
things
like
like
a
complete
treasury
picture.
So
it's
like
a
lot
of
the
stuff
is
already
in
the
dune
analytics
doing
analytics
right
now,
but
it's
like,
oh
you
know,
it'd
be
great
to
have.
A
You
know
the
whole
the
common
pool,
the
and
then
all
the
multi-sigs
right
there.
So
you
can
see
like
right
now.
What's
the
total
treasury
of
the
tvc
and
then
maybe
longer
term,
is
the
next
step.
It's
like
looking
at
each
of
the
working
groups
and
seeing
what
their
budgets
are
like
the
last
budget
that
they
have,
how
much
of
it
they
didn't
use.
A
How
much
they're
asking
for
now
what
whatever
they're
working
in
right
now
in
their
their
existing
budget,
how
much
they've
spent
and
and
how
much
is
in
their
treasury.
Just.
A
Like
how
fast
each
of
these
working
groups
is
burning
through
their
budget
and
likely,
you
know
when
they're
going
to
make
another
request
for
budgets
so
that
that
one
will
take
a
little
bit
more
effort.
Probably
because
that's
going
to
be
not
just
like
using
dune
analytics
to
like
pull
data
from
these
multisigs.
But
it's
like
a
little
bit
of
coordination
with
the
working
groups
so
and
there's
a
link
here
to
like
a
rough
prototype.
A
No
cash
flow
projections
which
we
can
talk
about
if
you,
if
you
want,
but
like
I'm,
finding
that
it's
really
like
when
you
really
start
to
get
into
it.
The
difficulty
of
trying
to
predict
cash
flows
is
one.
We
don't
have
any
revenues
right
now,
but
two,
it's
so
dependent
on
the
the
way
that
we
vote
in
the
conviction
voting
and
like
it's
really
hard
to
know
like
how
that
how
that's
actually
going
to
point
out,
because
it's
just
because
it
gets
so
much
harder
to
pass
stuff.
So
I
I
don't.
A
A
And
also
zepty,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
additional
thoughts
or
things
you'd
like
to
add
to
it.
A
Oh
modeling
and
I
mean
projecting
like
saying
not
not
not
literally
modeling
it
as
in
like
a
software
model,
but
I'm
just
saying
like.
Oh
you
know
what
based
on
you
know
the
last
two
to
three
months
we've
been
pulling
funds
out
of
the
column
pool
at
this
rate,
so
we
project
it'll,
be
you
know
this
rate
over
the
next
month
or
two,
because
I
just
don't
know
how
to
do
that,
given
the
way
that
conviction
voting
works
and
how
people
are
going
to
respond
to
various
proposals
that
make
sense.
F
Totally-
and
I
could
I
could
help
put
something
together
for
that-
that
at
least
would
give
some
kind
of
estimate
projection
or
like
a
spreadsheet.
Basically
that
would
put
something
together.
That's
like
you
know.
If
we're
full
throttle
spending
money,
this
is
the
most
we
could
spend
in
the
rate
that
it
would
be
spent
and
if
we're
like,
you
know
a
little
bit
here
a
little
bit
there,
because
there's
like
this
maximum
there's
like
you,
can
only
spend
this
much.
You
know
I
think
it's
like
11
or
something
in
one
proposal
and
that's
still
impossible.
F
A
That
would
be,
that
would
be
great
yeah,
so,
okay,
so
let's
follow
up
on
that
I'll
I'll
I'll.
Ask
that
in
our
next
time
we
talk
safety.
Did
you
have
anything
you
wanted
to
add.
G
No,
I
I
just
like
what
you
say:
it's
what
we
already
talked
and
we
have
a
meeting
tomorrow
with
rex
and
and
anna
and
eugenion
for,
like
you,
know,
make
what
we
want
to
accomplish
with
like
we.
G
If
we
want
to
tweak
the
theme
dashboard
yeah,
all
that
stuff,
like
someone
eats
and
we
have,
we
will
yeah
organize
organization
and
actually
like
it's
something
that
can
be
done
pretty
fast,
especially
like
the
end
part,
and
then
we're
also
going
to
work
like
in
a
more
methodical
data,
but
that
can
also
probably
take
longer.
But
the
different
part
can
be
done
like
in
in
24
hours
when
we
start
working.
A
Awesome-
and
I
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
bear
100
and
also
to
rex
for
and
anik
he's,
not
on
the
call
right
now,
but
you
all
have
been
awesome
in
terms
of
just
like
just
jumping
into
this
and
like
bringing
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
and
and
good
thinking
on
this
front.
So
thank
you.
A
Okay,
so
let's,
let's
move
to
the
next
topic.
A
This
is
like
this
question
of
how
do
we
slow
spending
in
a
way
that
isn't
just
completely
reactive
or
just
like
taking
our
hands
off
the
wheel,
but
also
that
respects
the
culture
of
this
of
this
community,
which
is
that
you
know
we
use
conviction,
voting,
we
don't
we're
not
doing
like
top-down
control
or
guidance
of
you
know
not
like
the
stewards
saying.
This
is
how
it
shall
be,
but
but
I
don't
think
that
that
excuses
us
not
having
some
type
of
plan
for
guiding
and
making
recommendations.
A
I
guess
the
way
I
would
say
it,
and
so
I'm
just
gonna
add
a
couple
things
and
I'm
gonna
open
it
up.
I
I
personally
believe
this
is
why
I
put
time
into
that
document.
I
do
think
that
you
know
this
idea
of
capacity
building
like
really
using
that
frame
of
like
how
do
we
build
the
long-term
capital
of
this
organization
of
this
this
community
and
in
all
its
different
forms
like
cultural
capital,
financial
capital,
expertise,
capital
and
social
capital
so
like?
A
How
do
we
make
sure
that,
as
we're
slowing
down
spending,
we
don't
inadvertently
hurt
ourselves
and,
in
our
inadvertently,
hurt
our
ability
to
strengthen
ourselves
over
time?
A
So
that's
that's
one
frame
that
I
think
is
important
and
I
think
there's
one
other
aspect
of
this
up
as
I
was,
I
have
all
my
tokens
or
I
had
all
my
tokens
on
the
abstain
proposal,
which
is
basically
what
we're
using
right
now
to
slow
down
spending,
and
what
I
realized
is
that,
in
order
to
vote
for
the
stewards,
the
stewards
proposal
I
had
to
go
in-
and
you
know,
take
all
my
tokens
off
of
the
abstain
and
then
put
them
all
on
to
the
steward
proposal.
And
you
know
it
doesn't.
A
That's
not
doesn't
seem
like
that
big
of
a
deal,
but
if
we're
trying
to
pass
if
we're
trying
to
pass
a
whole
bunch
of
proposals
or
not
a
whole
bunch,
but
like
some
key
proposals,
that's
going
to
take
some
coordination,
especially
when
you
think
about
the
fact
that
you
have
some
whales
who
are
probably
pretty
busy
and
don't
want
to
be
interrupted
every
week
or
so
with
like
hey.
A
So
that's
I
wanted
to
see
if
people
have
some
ideas
for
how
we
can
manage
that
in
a
way
where
we
can
really
guide
this
kind
of
the
slow
down
and
spending
in
a
way
that
makes
sense-
and
then
finally
is
just
you
know
in
on
this
question
of
how
we
slow
down
the
spend-
it's
not
just
about
these
kind
of
obvious
ideas
of
like
slowing
down
our
spending
of
the
budgets,
but
maybe
there
are
some
other
ways
more
creative
ways
of
thinking
about
this.
A
So
I'll
just
throw
this
out
as
an
example
like
in
the
startup
world,
you
have
companies
that
are
short
on
cash,
and
so
what
do
they
do?
They
basically
have
their
employees,
their
contributors
earn
equity
right
and
we're
not
supposed
to
use
that
word
ourselves,
but
the
token
is
kind
of
analogous
right.
So
what
are
ways
you
know,
there's
been
some
things
that
griff
has
been
thinking
about.
Tam's
been
thinking
about
for
paying
out
compensation
in
tec.
A
Maybe
there's
some
programs.
We
could
look
at
that
are,
like
you
know,
the
equivalent
of
the
employee
stock
purchase
programs
that
companies
have
to
kind
of
help
people.
You
know
incentivize
people
to
take
the
tc
instead
of
xdi.
A
So
anyway,
I'm
going
to
stop
here,
but
I
just
wanted
to
tee
up
this
part
of
the
conversation
and
get
people's
perspectives.
F
There
there's
this
crazy
thing
called
a
success
token
that
uma
offers
it's
basically
it's
something
that
would
lock
up
pc
tokens
for
a
period
of
time
and
then
it's
like
generally,
I
mean
I
don't
think
I
don't
know
if
it
worked
for
pec,
but
I
want
to
at
least
throw
out
the
idea
where
it's
like.
Okay
buy
these
success
tokens
right
and
if
the
tc's
price
goes
up
to
this
level,
then
you
will
get
more
tokens
then
you
actually
originally
bought.
F
So
the
token
contract
itself
is
backed
by
a
bunch
of
tokens
that
are
sitting
there
locked
behind
the
token
contract
right,
so
let's
say
they
buy.
What
would
be
a
thousand
tec
tokens?
We
would
set
a
strike
price
at
like
three
dollars.
F
So
if,
if
the
price
of
the
token
goes
up
to
three
dollars,
they
still
get
a
thousand
tokens
right,
but
if
it
goes
above
three
or
I
don't
remember,
if
the
strike
price
is
the
right
term,
but
I
think
it
is
if
it
goes
above
three
dollars,
then
they
start
to
get
more
than
a
thousand
tokens
right
and-
and
we
could
set
something
up
like
that.
Uma
has
this
really
it's
a
really
interesting
project
thing,
but
basically
it
says.
F
We
could
sell
a
success
token
to
investors,
which
probably
isn't
legal
but
whatever
and
then
another
another
thing
that
what
you
mentioned
reminded
me
of
is
something
we're
doing
with
giveth,
which
is
called
give
power,
and
so
we're
going
to
have
people
lock
up,
give
tokens
and
lock
it
for
a
period
of
time,
the
longer
the
time
they
lock
it
for
the
more
power
they
get,
the
more
give
power
they
get
and
with
their
get
power
they
can
boost
projects.
F
So
it's
kind
of
like
conviction
voting,
but
the
other
way
around
when
convicts
are
voting
and
deposit
tokens
and
your
voting
power
grows
over
time.
Here.
You
lock
tokens
from
the
from
the
get
go
and
that
that
gives
you
voting
power,
and
then
I
don't
know
if
this
could
be
like
curating
a
list
of
trusted
projects
or
what
kind
of
system.
But
it
would
be
an
economic
approach
towards
giving
utility
to
the
tc
token
to
have
some
kind
of
curation
mechanism
based
off
of.
If
you
locked
your
tokens.
A
A
You
know
because
I
just
feel
like
that
might
be
one
of
the
ways
that
we
preserve
yeah
preserve
our
ex
die
but
yeah.
I
think
it
would
take
some
modeling
this.
This
is
where
I
think
actual
modeling
would
be
useful
as
to
and
actually
tam
was
talking
about,
having
some
cad
cam
help,
maybe
to
kind
of
look
at
some
of
these
problems,
but
I
don't
know
griff
if
you
like.
Do
you
think
these
are
complex
enough
to
warrant
something
like
that?
Or
do
you
think
we
could
eyeball
them.
F
Well,
I
think
I
I
think
the
some
of
these
things
like,
for
instance,
requesting
or
being
more
liberal
with
payments,
that,
with
with
groups
that
say,
hey
we're
going
to
buy
tc
with
the
raptex
die
that
we
get
either
like
on
the
open
market
and
then
and
then
hold
the
tc
and
making
that
a
cultural
thing.
F
I
I
think
we
can
for
sure
say
that's
a
good
thing
as
far
as
like
modeling
like
it's.
I
think
it's
too
subjective
to
models
that
exactly
I.
I
do
think
that
if,
if
we're
looking
at
modeling
there's
like
a
few
things,
that
might
be
interesting,
but
one
of
them
is
that's
been
brought
up
a
few
times
since
we
launched
is
what
should
the
tributes
be,
and
that
seems
like
something
that
would
be
really
good
to
model
and
also
could,
like.
You
know
right
now,
right.
F
Vote
to
raise.
F
A
H
Yeah
I
was
gonna.
I
was
actually
gonna.
Add
that
I
I
talked
to
manu
today
about
just
like
raising
more
of
the
main
tc
campaign,
but
like
I
was
just
like
thinking
that,
since
we
got
that
optimism,
retroactive
public
goods
funding.
H
What
if
we
tried
like
in
some
way
to
get
into
their
like
their
like
another
airdrop
round,
because
it's
been
like
an
airdrop
that
has
been
getting
a
lot
of
attention.
So
in
a
way
like
we
could
tell
them
like
what.
If
what,
if
addresses
that
have
minted
tec
in
the
past,
can
participate.
H
H
You
know
for
for
for
people
that
mean
tec,
and
then
we
were
like
actually
there's
like
a
way
in
which,
like
we
could
be
like
suggestive
about
it,
and
the
answer
to
you
know
like
some
legal
complications
or
anything
that
might
be
like
around
it,
I
feel
is
the
name
of
the
campaign
itself,
like
minty,
see
like
we're
asking
people
to
mint
easy,
not
to
buy
it
actually
like
people
that
buy
it
and
just
hold
it
if
they
got
it
from
a
secondary
market.
Are
not
gonna
be
like
qualifying
for.
H
The
airdrop
like
in
indicates
that
that
we
achieved
this
so
yeah.
It
would
be
like
worth
trying.
Maybe,
but
I
don't
know
a
lot
of
people
in
optimism,
but
I
can
look
into
the
emails
that
they
sent
for
the
rpgf
thing.
A
E
Out
of
a
question
and
or
suggestion
about
that,
is
it
possible
that
we
could
make
like
a
like
a
dashboard
of
some
kind
for
each
participant
in
tec?
That
would
say.
E
You
know:
here's
a
place
where
you
can
find
all
the
dework
things
you're
connected
to
and
and
so
on,
right
I
think
and
from
a
user
interface
standpoint
that
could
make
it
so
that
we
could
leverage
a
lot
of
these
things
and
I'm
not
sure
any
other
dow
has
such
a
thing.
You
know,
but
it
might
be
an
excellent
way
to
continue
adding
features.
You.
A
A
This
reminds
me
of
something
that
edu
and
I
are
talking
about
over
at
communitas,
which
is
basically
just
getting
a
simple
mechanism
for
us:
a
simpler
mechanism
for
us
to
communicate
with
token
holders,
not
not
just
the
hatchers
but
like
everybody,
who's
who
holds
a
token,
and
so
that,
because
he's
had
to
do
all
this
outreach
and
stuff.
So
that's
it's
kind
of
it's
not
the
same
thing.
You're
talking
about
durgados,
but
it's
kind
of
related.
But
imagine
like
yeah
the
communication
system.
E
A
Me
switch
the
the
angle
of
attack
here,
so
this
question
of
managing
down
part
spending
in
a
way
that
is
not
just
taking
our
our
hands
off
the
wheel
but
actively
trying
to
shape
it
a
little
bit
by.
A
Maybe
trying
to
identify
like
the
areas
where
we
feel
it's
almost
like
clustering
investments
that
the
tec
is
making
in
terms
of
their
their
long-term
capacity
building
effect.
This
is
tricky
terrain,
admittedly
right.
This
is
like
not
very
so
how
would
we,
if
we
were
to
do
something
like
that?
How
would
you?
A
How
would
you
do
something
like
that
in
a
way
that's
bottoms
up
and
not
like
top
down
like
here's,
how
we
should
do
you
know
it's
like
provide
some,
I
don't
know
like
it's
inside
or
kind
of
like
opinions
from
various
people
in
the
in
the
organization.
I
don't
know
so
I
just
want
to
open
that
up
to
see
so.
First
of
all,
let
me
ask
this:
is
that
question
clear.
A
Yes,
so
we
are
going
to,
we
are
naturally
slowing
down
our
spending.
That's
just
happening
with
the
way
the
conviction
voting
works,
it's
just
getting
harder
and
harder
to
pass
proposals,
and
I
think
that
we're
going
to
you
know
it's.
It's
becoming
harder
and
harder
past
proposals.
A
It
means
also
like
having
to
do
potentially
a
lot
of
coordination
with
big
whales
to
like
get
them
to
move
stuff
off
of
the
abstain
proposal
and
then
move
it
back
and
move
it
on
to
a
project
onto
a
proposal
and
then
move
it
on
to
abstain,
and
this
could
get
kind
of
tricky
over
the
next
several
months
like
how
do
we
actually
manage
kind
of
like
in
a
way
cat
hurting
voting?
I
mean
it's
already
getting
hard
to
get
to
get
people
to
vote
and
to
to
move
stuff
forward.
A
So
how
do
we
signal
those
to
the
community
in
a
way
that
allows
us
to
keep
functioning
and
allows
us
to
to
move
these
votes
forward?
Is
that
clear.
B
I'm
I'm
guessing,
I
mean,
of
course
you
can
change
the
you,
can
tweak
the
incentive
structure
slightly
to
make
abstaining,
less
op
and
kind
of
try
and
incentivize
activity.
That
way,
but
that's
like
a
it's,
whether
the
carrot
or
the
stick
approach.
You
know
rather
have
a
a
carrot,
approach,
thinner
and
then
then
stick.
G
E
Well,
it
seems
to
me
that
it's
an
important
question
to
be
able
to
differentiate
between
those
two
things
right.
So
if
we
don't
have
enough
data
about,
you
know
what
people
are
doing
in
terms
of
their
engagement.
How
are
we
gonna
sort
of
be
able
to
figure
that
out
so
that
we
can
make
decisions
about
how
to
change.
E
Yeah
so
right
now
we're
sitting
there
going
well,
maybe
per
person
is
abstaining
because
they
just
don't
know
enough
about
it
or
they're.
You
know
are:
are
people
operating
because
of
ignorance
or
because
they
just
don't
feel
that
those
proposals
are
worth
their
their
votes?
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
so
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
in
terms
of
of
that,
and
I
think
that
would
then
again
go
back
to
the
dashboard
thing.
E
You
know
if
they,
if
they
they
looked
at
it,
they
would
drive
more
engagement
right,
because
then
everyone
would
have
that
right.
First
thing
when
they
logged
into
the
dow
and
they'd
be
able
to
participate
in
that
fashion.
B
Maybe
the
the
thing
that
what
I
was
thinking
about
is
it's
my
understanding
that
the
once
you
stake
into
the
abstain
pool
you
kind
of
never
have
to
engage
again
right
you
once
once
you
stake
your
tokens
into
abstain,
there's
no
incentive
whatsoever
to
engage.
It's
just
stays
there
and
in
in
fact
your.
B
Your
tokens
would
move
around
less
okay
move
is
not
that's,
not
the
correct
word.
So
what
about
instead
kind
of
having
a
timer
is
so
I'm
not
aware
of
the
full
mechanics,
but
if
this
isn't
the
case,
it
would
make
sense
to
for
the
abstain,
pool
to.
A
So
let
me
just
I'll
add
one,
so
these
are
all
really
interesting
and
they
may
be
more
like
longer
term
kinds
of
things.
I'm
thinking
that,
like
this
is
kind
of
like
in
a
way
kind
of
wearing
our
community
organized,
perhaps
like
you
know
how
how
like
over
the
next
few
months,
you
could
already
see
that,
like
it's
getting
more
complicated
to
to
pass
things
so
like
if
we
didn't
so
I'm
con,
I'm
not
sure
that
there's
a
technological
fix
here
that
we
can
push
out
very
quickly
but
grif.
A
You
may
have
some
more
thoughts
on
that.
So,
barring
a
technological
fix
are
there
some
things
that
we
can
do
in
the
way
that
we
communicate
with
token
holders,
and
I'm
thinking
in
particular
the
whales,
but
not
exclusively
that
big
eviction
voting
is
it's
weighted,
so
everybody's
vote
does
matter,
but
the
whales
really
do
matter
so
the
things
that
we
should
be
that
we
can
be
doing
and,
more
importantly,
should
be
doing
to
help
kind
of
steer
on
these
proposals
to
kind
of
keep
our
operating
capacity
high.
F
A
E
F
F
You
know
we
have
our
momentum
that
got
us
here
that
people
bought
into,
but
we
probably
need
more
feedback
cycles
and
there
are
a
few
big
whales
that
should
be
easy
to
reach
out
to
and
get
feedback
from
and
there's
also
influencers
and
the
whales
are
also
influencers.
So,
like
you
know,
if
we
get
them,
I
know
both
trent
and
zargham.
Who
are
you
know,
probably
the
leaders
in
the
token
engineering
space
they
there's
a
few
others,
but
they're
like
really
huge
there
and
they're
also
whales
in
the
tc.
F
So
it's
probably
worth
you
know,
heeding
their
advice
and
trying
to
implement
some
of
their
ideas.
They
have
lots
of
ideas,
but
then
we
can't
be
like
okay
go
work
on
it.
You
know
that's
kind
of
the
duocracy
approach
of
of
the
tec,
but
it's
not
going
to
work
with
our
whales
because
they
have
other
jobs,
so
yeah.
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
that's
another
thing,
maybe
to
a
grip.
We
can
follow
up
on
that
too.
It
might
be
good
to
actually
have
like
a
list
of
people.
A
A
You
know
like
the
shareholder:
what's
it
called
shareholder
communication
shareholder
relations,
that
corporations
have,
but
it's
like
token
holder
relations.
You
know
what
is
that
yeah.
F
C
C
C
So
that's
why
we're
having
this
feeling
like?
Oh
funds
are
just
running
away
and
we're
not
seeing
any
type
of
return,
but
maybe
what
we
need
is
more
proposals
like
griff
said
that,
like
wales
would
enjoy
voting
for,
but
that
they
are
also
aligned
with
a
short-term
impact
to
the
tc,
where
the
token
can
be
boosted
like
we
can
kind
of
see
the
impact
they
had.
On
the
token.
E
B
A
Well,
I
think
so
we
we
just
have
a
a
few
more
minutes.
Okay,
I
think
we
have
some
there's
some
seeds
of
some
good
ideas
here
to
focus
on,
and
so
maybe
we
follow
up
on
this
one
next
week,
just
to
like
turn
this
into
something
more
concrete
and
we'll
have
we'll
have
some
feedback.
I
want
to
ask
some
of
these
same
questions
of
the
stewards
on
thursday,
and
so
you
know
if
people
are
interested
in
sitting
in
on
that
call.
Those
are
those
calls
are
open
and
yeah.
A
It
feels
like
we're
close
to
having
some
some
recommendations
here,
I'll
try
to
like
distill
down
these
comments
from
folks,
and
then
we
can
just
try
to
nail
it
next
week
for
next
week.
The
things
I
would
like
to
focus
on
is
the
sample
manifesto
and
then
getting
started.
A
We're
gonna
actually
need
a
proposal
for
sampo
just
to
pay
this
working
group,
so
we're
going
to
need
to
pull
that
together
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I
would
like
if
people
can
do,
this
it'd
be
great,
there's
a
link
in
this
agenda
and
also
on
the
side.
If
you
look
in
notion,
there's
a
thing
that
says:
sampo
people
plan
and
what
would
be
great
is
if
you
can
just
put
your
name
in
there.
A
So
can
you
see
that
so
I
just
put
my
name
and
then
areas
of
expertise
and
interest,
because
what
I'd
like
to
start
doing
is
kind
of
just
get
like
a
catalog
of
like
what
people
can
contribute,
what
you're
interested
in
contributing
and
what
you
actually
have
some
skills
and
background
that
I'm
not
talking
about
like
juggling
and
stuff
like
that.
I'm
saying
like
things
that
are
related
to
sample.
If
you
want
to
juggle,
we
can
do
that
too,
but
we'll
be
juggling
money.
A
So
so,
if
you
could
do
that
before
next
week
and
I'll
put
a
link
in
the
channel
directly
to
this
document,
so
you
don't
have
to
fish
around
for
it
I'll
put
a
link,
but
that
would
be
great
too.
Then
we
can
I'd
like
to
talk
about
that
next
week
and
finally,
is
there
anything
else
that
people
would
like
to
add
to
next
week's
agenda
before
we
close
out.
B
No,
I
think,
what's
we
might
have
a
progress
report
about
kind
of
what
we've
been
doing
in
the
last
week
myself
and
whoever
whoever
else
joins
stuff.
A
Cool
okay,
I
think
you
cut
out
a
little
bit
there,
but
basically
you're
saying
an
update
on
what's
happening
with
the
analysis.
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
okay!
Well,
that's
it
we're
at
the
top
of
the
hour.
We
have
30
seconds
more,
so
you
get
20
seconds
now,
15
seconds
now,
so
all
right!
Everybody!
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
everybody's
thinking
and
hanging
in
there
see
you
next
week,
bye.