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A
C
A
Hey
griff
cool,
so
we
can
jump
into
things
phil.
I
don't
want
to
take
the
reins
because
I
know
this
was.
This
is
a
topic
that
you
really
wanted
to
spend
time
leading
also,
and
you
had
a
lot
of
awesome
ideas
around,
but
I
just
I
guess,
like
a
quick
recap
for
for
the
yeah
for
everyone
on
where
we're
working
out
of
in
case
it's
helpful.
A
Is
this
notion
page?
Oh,
I
should
probably
share
my
screen
and
also
drop
the
link.
C
A
Cool
yep,
so
we
have
this
notion
page
with
a
few
of
the
topics.
We've
been
diving
in
on
and
service
marketplace.
Design
is
the
theme
for
this
call
and
I'll
send
the
link
in
a
second,
but
basically
the
idea
is
that
the
service
marketplace
is
kind
of
where
we're
envisioning,
clients
and
token
engineers
coming
together
to
find
work
or
to
connect.
C
A
And
it's
really
going
to
be
interesting
to
think
about
how
to
build
that
design,
that
marketplace
in
a
way
that
meets
the
needs
of
clients
and
and
the
token
engineers
and
yeah
incentivizes
people
to
participate
on
both
sides.
B
Yeah,
I'm
really
sorry
did
not
have
too
much
time
to
prepare
anything.
I
think
the
main
thing
I
would
we
would
like
to
achieve
here
with
this
marketplace
place
design
is
to
create
something
practical
which
we
could
like
start
working
on
like
directly
without
too
much
planning.
B
I
think
maybe
his
first
approach
to
talk
to
companies,
which
we
know
we
do
already
told
engineering
or
have
already
clients
and
see
what
we
can
learn
from
them
and
how
marketplace
could
what
would
be
different
like
if
we
offered
a
service
in
the
marketplace
than
offering
it
as
a
company
yeah?
I
think
that's
probably
like,
like
a
little
market
analysis,
that's
how
we
could
start.
A
Yeah
for
sure
that
was
one
of
the
things
we
had
talked
about
it.
Basically,
if
this
marketplace
is
a
space
where
token
engineering,
individuals
or
groups,
companies
could
come
and
find
connect
with
clients
that
are
looking
for
token
engineers,
then
we'd
obviously
want
to
get
more
familiar,
more
understanding
about
what
the
print
services
marketplace
looks
like
today.
I
think
that's
one
of
the
pain
points.
A
I
guess
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
people
around
the
community
is
that
there's
there
are
people
practicing
token
engineering,
but
there's
a
lot
like
the
clients,
get
sent
places
based
on
word
of
mouth
and
it's
pretty
inefficient
and
nobody
really
knows
exactly
who's
working
on
what,
because
it's
kind
of
siloed
and
and
there
could
be
a
lot
more
transparency
into
the
services
providing
and
yeah
so
understanding
what
the
current
market
looks
like
is
one
of
the
was
one
of
the
first
items
on
on
the
list
kind
of
general
like
market
research
too,
which
would
be
pretty
interesting,
and
I
know
one
of
the
companies
already
doing
cert
yeah
I.
B
That's
the
first
person
to
attack
yeah
in
the
interview
kind
of,
and
I
reach
out
to.
I
said
I
reached
out
to
one
guy
from
crypto
economic
hub.
I
think
his
name
he's
got.
His
name
is
like
laurent
hardy
he's
from
spain,
barcelona
or
madrid
yeah.
I
think
it's
like
maybe
a
good
starting
point
and
then
like
another
guy's
from
the
entry
exchange
or
leondra,
but
they
really
enterprise
focus.
So
they
do
like
ibm
tokens.
B
You
know
like
on
the
ibm
infrastructure
but
they're
also
looking
for
top
engineering
services,
basically-
and
I
think,
or
it's
a
good
starting
point
to
reach
out
to
those
entities
or
persons
and
just
talk
with
them
and
then
get
like
an
overview
like
the
traditional
kind
of
business
model,
canvas
style
like
exploring
the
fields.
You
know
where
you
see,
partners,
customers
and
from
the
marketplace
design
itself-
I
don't
know,
but
what
we
would
need.
Maybe
we
need
to
make
a
little
list
of
first
infrastructure
required.
A
Yeah,
I
think
the
other
thing
that
we'll
discover
through
the
research
is
that
all
of
the
firms
like
or
people
that
are
providing
services.
Currently
they
they
have
different
purposes
and
they
might
they
probably
serve
different.
A
Like
client
segments
like
some
people
might
like,
you
were
saying,
serve
more
enterprise
like
web
2
companies,
even
that
are
interested
in
web
3,
but
don't
really
know
how
to
get
in
or
want
to
understand
the
right
way
to
do
it,
and
some
people
might
be
doing
like
more
much
more
like
heavy
research
and
some
people
might
be
providing
basic
models
and
yeah.
A
So
there's
going
to
be
a
bunch
of
different
segments
of
token
engineering
services
too,
and
I
don't
think
a
you
know,
transparent
working
services
marketplace
is
perfect,
will
be
perfectly
a
perfect
fit
for
all
of
those
types
of
services,
especially
at
the
beginning,
but
it'd
be
curious.
It'd
be
a
great
way
to
learn
more
about
the
market
and
figure
out
what
types
of
services
could
be
could
be
part
of
this
marketplace.
B
A
Well,
I
guess
like
if
we
were
building
a
if
this
was
tech,
that
was,
you
know,
built
open
source
and
as
a
way
to
match
like
clients
requesting
service
from
token
engineers,
then
it
would
be
essentially
trans.
Well,
potentially,
it
would
be
transparent
process.
C
A
Yeah
who's
asking
for
what,
how
much
they're
paying
for
what
the
work
is
and-
and
I
actually
I
mean-
I
don't
even
know-
if
that's
true
though,
but
but
it'd-
be
interesting
to
find
all
that
stuff
out.
I
guess
before
we
go
like
too
deep
into
this
stuff.
Does
anybody
have
comments
or
questions?
A
A
Okay,
well
yeah,
so
phil
you've
already
started
reaching
out.
I
think
this
I
I
think
like
answering
these
questions
is
an
awesome
first
step
yeah.
That
should
for
sure
be
the
plan.
Do
you
have
any
ideas
for
the
workflow
for
completing
that
part.
B
Actually,
I
don't
so
far,
I'm
really
sorry,
but
I
haven't
spent
too
much
time
like
from
september.
I
would
be
like
having
a
lot
of
time
to
work
on
this.
C
B
In
a
moment,
it's
just
like
fight
hustle,
but
I,
like,
I
said,
like
probably
start
with
just
reaching
out
entities,
then
we
need
to
think
about
like
actually
just
to
put
in
some
hours
how
we
differentiate
from
a
normal
company.
What
makes
a
marketplace
difference,
I
mean
marketplace
means
normally
that
you
can
like
just
join
in
as
a
token
engineer
or
as
a
company
to
buy
services.
There.
A
Yeah,
I
guess
that's
a
good
question
in
your
head
in
your
mind,
is
the
marketplace
providing
services
or
is
it
facilitating
the
connection
of
like
clients
and
services.
B
Yeah,
that's
what
I
would
quite
think
about
yeah
like
okay,
because
he
and
just
working
would
actually
think
about
what
services
the
marketplace
is
providing
to
the
engineers
and
the
customers.
Right
like
like
a
normal
marketplace,
for
example,
allows
like
give
like
like
a
framework
and
like
reviews,
and
will
I
mean
what
our
platform
offers
to
these
participants.
A
C
A
Supply
side
demand
side.
Mapping,
I
think,
would
be
a
great
one
like
what
that's
it's
basically
market
research
on
the
actually.
I
think
these
are
flipped
demand.
Sides
should
be
clients.
Well,
it
depends
on
who
you
ask,
I
guess,
but.
A
But
yeah
so
supply
side.
Research
is
basically
like
who
are
the
token
engineers
that
might
be
looking
for
work
and
don't
know
where
to
go
to
to
do
it
or
the
ones
that
are
even
completing
work
right
now
and
are
there
any
yeah?
What
are
their
needs
and
pain,
points
and
challenges
and
things,
and
what
would
they
want?
What
would
they
need
in
order
to
want
to
participate
in
a
market
like
this.
B
And
what
what
can
the
marketplace
offer
them
to
go
to
somewhere,
or
I
mean
normally,
a
marketplace
like
uber
offers
its
drivers
kind
of
the
software
and
maybe
an
insurance,
and
just
talking
about
traditional
marketplaces,
what
they
offer
their
parties
like
some
security
for
both
parties
for
the
wants
to
match?
Well,
I
don't
know
that's
no.
Let's
that's
cheese
and
anti-demand
side.
C
I
think
I
I
would
suggest
that
the
first
question
should
be
looked
at
there's
what
types
of
services
are
being
requested.
C
I
think
this
would
offer
a
lot
of
clarity
to
the
whole
picture,
and-
and
maybe
there
are
even
token
engineers
that
don't
know
they
are
token
engineers.
You
know
if
some
of
the
services
that
are
being
requested
are
services,
that
people
that
are
not
necessarily
in
this
community.
Have
the
expertise
like
today
in
the
in
the
governance
research
group
we're
putting
up
where
we
were
discussing,
how
the
governance
side
of
token
engineering
is
so
neglected
and
that
there
is
not
much
into
it.
A
Yeah
yeah,
for
sure,
that's
that's
a
really
good
point.
I
usually
forget
that
token
engineering
isn't
all
building
models.
Well,
I
guess
I
don't
forget
that,
but
it's
just
there's
a
huge.
The
spectrum
is
so
wide
the
types
of
work
and
services,
I'm
sure,
is
pretty
huge,
but
it'd
be
yeah.
A
It'd,
be
really
interesting
to
start
kind
of
categorizing
the
types
of
services
that
are
out
there
and
I
think
we
would
like
immediately
just
learn
so
much
just
from
talking
to
the
groups
that
are
doing
these
services
and
also
like
the
te
academy,
because
I
think
they
get
a
lot
of
inbound
for
this
stuff
too.
A
The
other
question
I
just
thought
of
that
we
should
definitely
get
more
concrete
on
is
what
value
like
why?
Why
does?
Why
does
the
token
engineering
field
or
why
does
the
token
engineering
community
need
a
marketplace
like
what
what
benefits
does
the
marketplace
offer
to
the
token
engineering
community.
A
Yeah,
yes
exactly
that,
and
I
think
I
have
some
ideas
on
it.
A
A
B
A
Where
do
you
think
is
a
good
place
to
work
out
of?
Is
this
notion
a
good
spot
yeah.
C
C
A
Mural
is
great
for
for
mapping
and
brainstorming
and
stuff.
I
just
had
a
really
scary
incident
of
deleting
a
bunch
of
stuff
from
notion
and
it
was
unrecoverable
so
I'm
a
little
off
of
the.
C
A
Train
at
the
moment,
but
yeah
we.
B
C
D
A
Yeah,
and
actually
it
was
really
cool
to
see
so
for
the
one
of
the
other
initiatives.
That's
spun
out
of
the
value
flows
course
was
the
mapping
knowledge
flow
or,
like,
I
guess,
mapping
the
the
relationship
between
the
services
and
the
education
side
of
the
token
engineering
economy
and
we're
working
on
that
with
the
te
academy,
and
in
doing
so,
we
actually
like
just
straight
up
copied
over
a
few
of
the
stakeholder
profiles.
A
We
we
started
a
new
mural
board,
I
guess
because
it
was
cleaner
or
whatever,
but
we
just
we
started
out
with
a
few
of
the
stakeholders.
We
had
already
mapped
out.
We
we
stole
this
interaction,
stakeholder
interaction,
matrix
that
we
already
had
used
in
the
ecosystem,
value
flows.
Course
it
was
really
cool
to
like
see
that
already
paying
its
dividends.
A
C
B
B
I'm
always
like
a
huge
fan
to
me
to
discuss
results
and
like
work
over
the
results.
A
So,
let's
see
I
mean
we
could
spend,
I
I
mean
I
think
in
general
like,
like
you
were
saying
it
just
needs
to
get.
The
idea
needs
to
get
flushed
out
a
little
bit
more.
Would
it
help
to
discuss
that,
like
some
of
the
some
of
the
topics
like
the
supply
side
needs
demand,
side
needs
this,
differentiating
the
marketplace
and
company
or
like
what's
the
value
of
the
marketplace
to
the
community
questions?
A
Would
it
help
to
discuss
those
right
now,
or
should
we
just
maybe
even
use
the
rest
of
this
hour
for
everyone
to
kind
of
go
individually
and
add
notes
and
comments
and
stuff
on
the
mirror
board?
We
could
just
do
individual
work.
C
A
Yeah,
I
think
well,
I
think
we
will
learn
a
bit
about
that
as
we
go
into
the
to
uncovering
more
about
the
current
what
the
current
marketplace
looks
like,
but
I
know
I
mean
there's
already
and
we
listed
a
handful
of
them
in
this
document
already,
there's
already
a
bunch
of
companies
that
are
doing
token
engineering
services.
A
But
I
think
that
there
is
also
a
lot
of
value
in
opening
up
at
least
part
of
this
marketplace,
part
of
like
the
services
providing
space
and
making
it
more
transparent
through
a
marketplace
like
this
and
having
this
be
like
more
of
a
starting
point
for
yeah
for
clients
to
find
token
engineering
services
or
for
token
engineers
to
find
work
before
they
maybe
get
more
specialized
and
and
join
specific
teams
or
something.
But
I
don't
really
know
all
the
answers
to
that.
To
that
question.
Yeah.
B
Maybe
what
could
be
interesting?
We
have
just
like
in
market
research.
If
you
know
what
block
science
is
doing
and
if
you
would
know
what
david
digital
is
doing
and
what
I
mean,
I
don't
even
know
what
long-term
financial
is
doing
exactly
and
then
we
could
see
if,
like
not
also,
the
supply
side
could
benefit,
because
they
have
different
skill
sets.
They
could
then
combine
different
customer
products.
A
Yeah,
maybe
sean,
can
we
ask
you
a
question
right
now
about
this?
What
do
you
think
the
benefit
of?
A
What
do
you
think
the
benefit
is
of
creating
an
open
or
a
transparent
services
providing
or
a
transparent
marketplace
for
services
to
yeah
be
exchanged
as
a
coming
coming
from
the
perspective
of
a
currently
providing.
D
Services,
so
a
big
thing
is
fair
pricing,
so
right
now,
no
one
knows
like
if
someone's
in
search
of
these
services,
most
of
them
don't
even
know
where
to
look
right.
They
don't
even
know
how
it's
possible
to
attain
these
services.
So
if
they
come
across
one
entity
that
is
offering
some
sort
of
service
token
advisory
or
tokenomics
analysis
or
even
engineering.
So
you
know
coming
with
a
bonding
curve
dashboard,
something
like
that,
then
they're
pretty
much
at
the
will
of
that.
D
Like
you
know,
there's
there's
not
much.
The
competition
is
scarce
because
there's
no
open
marketplace
right.
So
probably
the
the
the
pricing
is
all
over
the
place.
Probably
every
company
that's
paying
for
a
similar
token
engineering
service
playing
paying
wildly
different
prices
for
it.
Now
this
hurts
the
like
the
clients
and
the
providers
potentially
or
it's
like
a
give
and
take
in
different
situations,
but
it's
not
necessarily
fair.
D
E
You
know
the
people
who
are
really
good
at
token
engineering
don't
need
to
work
anymore,
like
the
people
who
have
like
years
of
experience,
they've
engineered
some
economies
and
started
printing
money.
You
know
so
it's
kind
of
like
this
weird,
it's
a
weird
market
where
the
some
of
the
best
experts
they
have
to
really
be
intrinsically
motivated
to
succeed,
and
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity.
In
the
token
engineering
I'm
very
biased,
I
come
from
common
stack
giveth
like
hey,
let's
use
token
engineering
to
like
change
the
nonprofit
space.
E
I
feel
like
there's
a
huge
opportunity
in
a
marketplace
where
people
who
are
maybe
underfunded
but
could
like
like
pull
out
some
intrinsic
motivation
for
the
actual,
like
change
they
want
to
see
in
the
world
and
that
this,
these
other
people
who
are
like
they
want
to
work,
but
they
already
did
a
defy
casino
and
are
good
on
money.
You
know
so,
like
maybe
they're,
looking
for
a
different,
a
like
a
more
interesting
opportunity
that,
like
will
fulfill
them
in
ways
beyond
the
funds
and
so
like
finding
a
way
to
be.
E
You
know
token
engineering
tinder,
where
like
there's
because
there's
token
engineers
out
there
and
there's,
but
not
that
many
right
now
because
of
the
bull
market
right,
but
there's
token
engineers
out
there
that
just
like
haven't
found
anything,
that's
really
like
interesting
to
them
and
then
there's
endless
projects
that
need
token
engineers
like
endless-
and
you
know
it's
almost
probably
the
token
engineers
right
now
are
like
cute
girls
on
tinder.
You
know
it's
like
they
have
their
pick
of
the
bunch,
but
you
know
at
least
they
have
their
pick
of
the
bunch.
E
You
know,
and
they
can
see
and
and
like
you
know,
fair
pricing
is
an
interesting
thing
right,
because
what
is
fair,
you
know
it's
like
there's
market
rates,
which
there
are
no
market
rates
right
now,
which
is
what
ygd
is
also
saying,
but
there's
also,
like
you
know
social
good
and
there's
other
value
that
can
be
created
around
this
marketplace
beyond
just
matching
like.
Oh,
I
have
a
gig,
oh
you
can
do
the
gig.
You
know
yeah
this.
D
Isn't
this
is
huge
yeah
there's?
Can
you
guys
hear
me?
I
forget
if
I
needed
it,
but
yeah
so
yeah.
This
is
like
and
just
visibility
and
transparency
like
if
work
is
happening
in
the
open.
It
would
be
nice
if
it's
known,
because,
as
a
token
engineer,
I'm
I
am
personally
motivated
by
a
lot
of
things
that
aren't
just
payments
and
I'd
say
over
90
of
the
work
that
I've
provided
to
different
initiatives
I
haven't
gotten
paid
before.
D
E
I
don't
know
some
great
company,
that's
doing
a
lot
of
cool
token
engineering,
but
they
treat
their
token
engineers
like
crap.
You
know
some
bad
yelp
reviews
and
then
you
have
like
token
engineers
that
say:
they're
hot,
but
really
they
don't
know
what
they're
talking
about
and
they're
rude
to
work
with.
You
know
it's
like.
Maybe
they
can
token
engineer
really
well,
but
you
know
what
they're
just
bad
humans
like
and
you
don't
want
to
work
with
them.
So
you
know
like
having
a
really
solid
baseline
for
reputation
in
the
marketplace.
E
And
then
you
have
people
like
ygg
who
are
like
I'm
gonna.
Do
this
stuff
for
free
just
you
know,
I
love
what
you're
doing,
and
I
know
you
don't
have
the
funds
so
like
give
me
some
future
thing.
You
know
some
future
cut
or
something
right
and
then,
if
it's
a
success,
then
we
both
win
but
for
now,
like
you
know,
I'm
just
going
to
be
a
great
guy.
Well,
at
least
you
get
also
some
reputation
on
the
platform
and
then,
if
you
want
to
sell
out
later
ygg,
you
can
just.
C
A
Yeah
yeah,
that's
one
of
the
topics.
We,
it
kind
of
falls
in
that's
one
of
the
topics
that
falls
in
the
middle
of
this
working
group,
which
is
like
marketplace
focused
and
then
the
other
working
group,
which
is
like
services
and
slash
the
academics
field,
focus
because
obviously
that's
where
you
would
that's
where
you
would
like,
earn
the
credentials
or
develop
your
skill
forest.
But
then
this
is
where
you
would
apply
it
so
yeah.
We
that's
a
topic
that
we
have
to
for
sure
dive
into.
E
E
Right
like
that,
that
will
teach
you
some
things
like
in
some
ways,
it's
a
bad
mark,
but
in
many
ways
like
I
want
I'm
looking,
I'm
always
looking
for
sleepy
devs
and
my
preference
is
that
they've
been
hacked
before
because
they
they're
not
they're
not
going
to.
Let
that
happen
again.
You
know
they
know
what.
C
A
C
E
Kind
of
like
a
d-gen
score
for
the
d-gen,
like
the
people,
building
the
casino.
No,
you
saw
the
d-gen
score
thing.
It's
like
they
track
how
many
times
you've
been
rug,
pulled
you're
at
west,
like
your
your
d,
gen
score
goes
up
the
more
like
you
know
times
you
lose
money
through
hacks
or
whatever.
Well,.
A
What
are
the
good
questions
here?
What
like
what
would
be
the
motivation
for
so
the
mo
yeah?
What's
the
motivation,
then,
for
clients
looking
for
services
to
participate
in
this
marketplace?
A
I
guess
they
have
the
possibly
they
get
token
engineering
services
for
a
lower
price
and
with
token
engineers
that
are
more
aligned
with
the
values
of
the
project.
E
Yeah
I
mean,
I
really
think
the
second
one
is
way
more
important.
Most
of
the
time
the
price
isn't
nearly
as
critical
as
finding
the
right
person
for
the
right
job,
finding
the
right
person
with
the
right
experience.
You
know
the
right
person
who,
with
the
is,
is
really
like.
Oh
yeah,
you
might
be
a
great
token
engineer,
but
you've
never
designed
a
liquidity
mining
program.
You
know
so,
okay,
so
now
you're
learning
it.
Oh
this
guy
he's
a
mediocre
token
engineer,
but
he's
done
six
liquidity,
mining
programs.
E
A
Yeah,
that's
another
actually
leads
to
another
topic
that
I
have
no
idea
how
it
really
fits
in
here
yet,
but
like
the.
If
this
market
is
transparent
and
say
it's
transparent
on
I
mean
you
could
be
transparent
on
like
the
requests
from
clients,
and
they
just
have.
A
I
don't
know
they
are
searching
for
token
engineers
with
backgrounds
of
xyz
and
skills
of
xyz
and
but
then
you
could
also,
I
mean
then
then,
just
like
the
contract
between
those
two
parties
happen,
sort
of
independently
out
of
the
out
of
the
marketplace,
or
does
it
happen
within
within
the
same
like
tech
infrastructure
and
then
like
does
the
work
like
the
modeling
that
the
token
engineer
does?
Is
that
all
like
the?
A
I
don't
know
where
I'm
going
with
this
actually?
But
I
guess
I
guess
what
I'm
thinking
of
is
the
fact
that,
like
models
that
are
built
by
token
engineers
are
there's
a
huge
potential
to
build
them
like
legos,
like
d5,
has
built
legos
with
their
protocols.
A
But
if
token
engineers
do
private
work
for
clients
and
the
models
are
all
held
in
private
github
repositories,
then
there's
no
future
value
of
those
of
those
models
and
future
token
engineers
couldn't
use
them
or
replicate
them.
And
I
don't
know
if
that
type
of
transparency
in
terms
of
the
models
that
the
token
engineers
built
would
be
included
in
this
part
of
the
marketplace.
But
that's
a
different
question.
Maybe.
A
Continuously,
that's
actually
pretty
similar
to
the
other.
The
other
topic
we're
working
on
in
using
nfts
to
map
the
distribution
of
knowledge
content
throughout
a
network
and
in
that
context,
it's
more
of
like
creating
an
nfc
that
represents
an
article
or
something
like
a
medium
article
and
then
that
medium
article
gets
distributed
across
a
network
and
you're
able
to
track
where
it's
been
using.
Nfts
and
you're
also
able
to
track
like
modifications
to
the
article
or
like
more
of
an
academic
research
paper
or
something.
A
A
But
yeah,
I
wonder
I
wonder
what
value
could
be
provided
to
the
community
by
also
creating
this
marketplace
as
a
space
where
these
models
are
open,
sourced
and
and
that
incentivize
token
engineers
to
build
those
open
source
models.
If
they
know
that
future
forks
are
going
to
lead
to
potential
income
streams
or
revenue
streams.
E
A
C
E
You
you
can
have
a
you
know
if
this
is
like
a
project
that
ends
up
with
open
source
code,
you
can
have
token
rewards
within
your
own
marketplace.
For
that
work,
you
know
and
maybe
make
it
a
commons
of
some
sort.
So
you
can
deal
with
low
liquidity
issues
like
a
bonding
curve.
It's
not
like
it's!
This
isn't.
This
is
a
very
niche.
E
This
is
not
a
global
economy.
Kind
of
I
mean
maybe
one
day,
but
to
start
you're
gonna
have
liquidity
problems
so.
C
E
You
have
to
do
some
token
engineering
around
it,
but
you
gotta,
I
I
feel
like
there's
a
place
for
closed
source
token
engineering
as
much
as
I
hate
to
admit
it.
A
E
For
these
things,
because
like
where
is
the
library
right,
open,
zeppelin
has
done
an
amazing
job
of
providing
a
library
for
solidity
code,
where's,
the
library
for
token,
for
python
code
on
on
token
engineering,
like
search
cad
count
on
github
and
see
what
you
get
I
mean
I
don't
know.
B
Versus
open
source
but
like
if
you
have
like
two
projects
with
diary
competing
with
each
other,
then
you
probably
cannot
open
source
to
engineering
first
or
or
work
on
the
same
basis.
Then
the
competition
is
also
kind
of
out,
I
don't
know,
or
it
will
increase
even
the
competition
because
they
need
to
rework
their
models.
A
Yeah,
I
don't
know
griff
you
mentioned
like
basically
creating
another
dow
and
a
bonding
curve
and
a
token
and
like
all
of
this
stuff
to
power
this
marketplace,
and
I
yeah
I
feel
like
that's
like
probably
the
right
path.
But
it's
really
hard
to
balance,
trying
to
consider
all
of
those
options
and
flush
them
out
and.
A
Yeah
and
like
design
a
marketplace
with
all
of
those
extra
features
at
the
same
time
as
like
making
making
legitimate
progress
and
being
realistic
and
like
trying
to
build
something
and
learn
along
the
way.
I
don't
I
mean
you
obviously
have
some
experience
with
this
with
building
the
tec,
but
like
yeah,
I
don't
know,
there's
just
like
so
many
details
that
would
need
to
be
hashed
out
before
the
before
that
dow
and
bonding
curve
launch
and
a
lot
of
work
between
now
and
then
and
how
do
you
yeah
manage
yeah.
E
E
Time
or
you
just
like
yolo
into
a
token
real,
quick,
because
it's
bull
market,
those
are
your
two
options.
You
know
like
brian
yeah
grind
for
a
year
or
or
yolo
for
the
timing,
but
I
probably
I'd
probably
lean
toward
grinding
for
a
year
honestly.
E
E
So
a
project
like
this
would
be
really
clutch
for
advancing
token
engineering,
it's
right
in
our
wheelhouse.
This
is
the
kind
of
stuff
we
would
want
to
fund
so
why
you
know
it's
like
just
being
in
partnership
and
probably
being
funded
or
being
supported
by
our
the
community
and
the
and
the
funding
streams
that
we're
gonna
create,
and
then
you
know
and
the
network
that
that
will
be
created
as
well
like.
I
feel
like
it's
a
it's
a
match
made
in
heaven.
C
C
Okay,
cool.
A
A
So
we
don't
have
recurring
meetings
for
this
stuff
yet
because
I
guess
we're
it's
just
feels
so
much
influx
and
like
the
topics
that
are
coming
out,
that
we
that
are
coming
out
that
we
want
to
prioritize
in
the
short
term
are
even
like
changing
a
little
bit.
So
we
haven't
set
up
anything
recurring
or
official,
but
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
topics
that
basically
has
found
its
its
footing
so
yeah,
let's
schedule
something
weekly
for
it.
C
A
I
mean
we
could
always
cancel
the
meetings.
If
there's
hasn't
been
updates,
I
would
say
we
should
err
on
that.
Just
to
encourage
progress.
A
B
Sure
perfect
first
days
or.
B
Sorry,
I
wasn't
like
today
sorry
yeah
thursday,
at
six.
For
me,
this
works
awesome.
A
Okay,
so
yeah
thursdays
at
six
would
be
good.
Do
you
think
we
should
still
do
a
so
there's
this
other,
the
other
working
group
sort
of
thing.
I
feel
like
I'm
calling
everything
a
working
group
these
days,
but
the
other
topic
that
we're
diving
in
on
is
the
value
flows
mvp,
which
is
kind
of
like
creating
this
mapping
of
knowledge.
Like
token
engineering
knowledge
to
token
engineers,
and
it's
like
the
yeah,
the
skill
tree
or
skill
forest
topics.
A
I
feel
like
we
don't
need
another
like
weekly
call,
but
maybe
we
just
see
how
it
goes
with
their
because
there
are
some
overlapping
participants
and
hopefully
the
two
groups
won't
get
too
far.
B
C
E
I
also
think
when
you
guys
are
doing
your
research.
I
hope
you
dive
into
get
coin.
I
feel
like
they've
done
a
great
job
of
like
marketplace
for
a
similar
audience
and
have
a
lot
of
interesting
experiments
that
have
some
have
succeeded.
Some
have
failed
for
various
reasons,
so
yeah
I
would.
I
would
definitely
hit
the
research
there.
B
Yes,
thanks
where's
the
list.
A
Oh,
you
might
have,
I
put
it
under
a
carrot.
C
C
A
C
A
A
A
B
To
meet
you
yeah
peter,
I
think
that's
yeah.
I
apologize
again
to
not
spend
enough
time
on
this
and
it's
getting
really
interesting
and
I
really
love
the
feedback
of
sean
and
chris.
C
A
Yeah
yeah,
it's
pretty
cool,
it's
just
like
a
huge
yeah.
There's
a
lot
of
it's
a
big
topic.
I
mean
you,
you
are
like
continuously
on
the
train
of
like
being
practical
and
realistic,
and
I
think
that's
like
super
valuable
and
obviously
a
important
perspective
to
have,
and
but
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
this
is
like
the
nature
of
projects
like
this
is,
unfortunately
not
that
approach
which
is
really
hard.
It's
like
a
battle
for
for
me
too.
A
It's
like
in
order
to
build
something
you
have
to
be
realistic
and
learn
while
doing
because
that's
a
great
way
to
learn,
but
at
the
same
time
you
can't
like
build
a
dow
and
launch
a
bonding
curve
and
a
token
multiple
times
for
the
same
project.
You
have
to
kind
of
like
make
sure
you're
doing
I
mean
yeah.
You
can't
really
do
that
or
like
griff
kind
of
gave
the
example
of
yeah
yellowing
into
the.
C
A
B
B
A
Yeah,
there's
already
ones,
there's
already
like
those
companies,
so
I
think
that's
a
big
part
of
like
why.
This
is
why
it
might
be
a
good
time
for
a
marketplace.
A
Let's
also
add
related
to
the
git
coin
topic,
just
other.
What
other
marketplaces
are
there
in
in
blockchain.
B
B
A
C
B
C
A
We
should
plan
to
try
and
like
one
thing,
we're
basically
doing
some
stakeholder
interviews
again,
and
I
thought
that
the
stakeholder
interviews
we
had
in
the
ecosystem
value
flows
course
went
really
well
when
we
kind
of
asked
similar
questions
or
we
had
a
relatively
structured
approach
to
the
like
interviews
and
asking
similar
questions
to
the
same
or
to
different
groups
and
then
adjusting
the
questions
as
we
go
and
realize
we
want
to
like
dive
into
more
areas.
So
maybe
we
should
start
by
setting
up
a
interview.
Yeah,
like
an
interview
guide.
B
Got
you
I
have
like
there's
a
really
nice
course:
it's
called
agile
development
or
something
it's
on
coursera
and
they
have
a
pretty
cool
interview
guide
there.
I
can
share
this
with
you,
so
maybe
we
can
like
take
elements
of
this.
C
C
A
Cool
thanks
man
appreciate
it
and
appreciate
the
the
interest
on
your
end,
too,
cool.