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A
B
B
The
person's
use
case
right,
it's
like
a
special
type
of
query
service
with
the
semantics
needed
for
yeah
skills
and
things
yeah.
A
Yeah,
let
me
give
you
so,
I
think
of
an
example.
We
are
just
or
we
are
about
to
publish
a
new
proposal
for
incubating
the
governors,
and
the
governors
is
a
particular
branch
within
token
engineering
dedicated
to
governance
challenges,
so
engineering
voting
mechanisms,
detecting
collusion
and
fraud,
establishes
processes
with
algorithmic
policy
making,
as
well
as
human
decision
making
and
and
updating
the
processes.
So
this
is
kind
of
it's
a
it's
a
token
engineer
right,
but
it's
a
particular
branch
and
over
time
we'll
have
we
might.
A
For
example,
one
of
the
of
the
of
the
tools
could
provide
the
lands
for
you
are
looking
for
a
governance
expert,
a
token
engineer
that
is
specialized
in
governance.
Okay,
here's
your
land-
and
this
lens
includes
nfts,
based
on
te
fundamentals
based
on
for
other
evidence
based
on
projects
based
on
keywords
whatever,
but
it's
it's
made
for
people
who
are
looking
for
governance,
experts
and
token
engineering
token
engineers
specialized
in
governance
yeah.
This
could
be
something
like
I
mean,
certainly
not
2021,
but
over
time.
B
A
B
Goes
over
this
kind
of
decentralized
expanding
evidence
base,
or
you
have
a
app
that
does
it
for
them
right,
but
I
I
think
about
it.
This
way
there
are
things
like
eragon
and
these
down
management
at
one
hive.
I
think,
and
these
types
of
community
management
right
and
when
you
want
to
get
more
granular
types
of.
B
Categorizations
and
content:
it's
basically
you're,
creating
like
sub
teams
and
sub
organizations,
and
these
types
of
things.
The
problem
is
that
that
type
of
top-down
way
of
doing
it,
you
have
to
define
a
lot
of
things
and
it's
hard
to
get
kind
of
over.
It's
it's
hard
to
accommodate
overlapping
and
kind
of
fuzzy
boundaries
right.
So
the
the
core
idea
is
that,
instead
of
instead
of
higher
level
contracts
and
higher
level
structures
that
operate
on
data
and
and
declare
what
this
data
means
right,
it's
more
like.
B
We
have
this
really
smart
data,
and
it
has
enough
information
that
we
can
draw
temporary.
We
can.
We
can,
like
yeah,
create
those
lenses
out
external
to
it
and
view
it
so,
instead
of
like
a
governance
instead
of
a
governance,
specific
sub
dao
or
something
within
the
within
the
token
engineering
commons.
B
Now
it's
more
like
there's
just
all
of
this
knowledge
and
all
of
these
deliverables
and
there's
enough
information
that
we
can
craft
the
lens
on
the
fly
to
view
what's
related
to
governance,
to
view
what's
related
to
token
engineering
in
general
and
that
overlap
has
accommodated
automatically.
So
that's
basically
what
I'm
envisioning
as
a
as
the
evidence-based,
so
to
speak.
A
What
about
this,
let's
say
this:
first
part
of
of
the
value
flows,
knowledge
creation,
facilitating.
A
How
would
that
look
like
on?
I
am
what
would
actually
happen.
B
Yeah
so
we'll
take
a
yes,
so
say
you
have
this,
so
you
have
an
e-book
or
something
right,
and
you
have
you
decide
that
you
want
chapters
you
want
to
divide
it
by
chapters
and
then
every
single
line
has-
or
every
single
word
has
like,
maybe
doesn't
know-
maybe
different
authors
in
a
single
chapter
right
and
basically,
you
just
define
the
structure
in
the
schema
of
that
book
and
you
define
the
meanings
behind
it
right
and
then
you
can
define
finally,
the
types
of
operations
that
can
be
done
on
it.
B
If
I
were
to
have
this
content
ebook
and
I
wanted
to
capture
various
types
of
learning
activities
that
come
off
of
it.
I
believe
that
I'm
going
to
the
operation
where
this
ebook
can
be
cloned
into
another
nft.
That
points
back
to
the
to
the
like
root
version.
A
B
Might
have
have
a
schedule
in
it
right
it
might
have
a
set
of
participants
and,
and
then
anyone
who's
in
that
set
of
participants.
I'd
add
a
property
to
it.
B
That
says
that
they
can
update
subsections
of
that,
to
add
to
add,
say,
solutions
to
assignments,
and
then
I
would
say
that
they
could
I'd
add
another
property,
that's
say
for
simplicity,
majority
votes,
people
can
vote
on
the
correctness
and
or
the
quality
of
that
piece
of
work
right,
and
that
provides
the
the
basically
foundation
for
ranking
and
the
basically
I
am
at
the
core.
This
is
what
I
am
is
is
before
with
nfts.
B
For
example,
you
have
very
you
have
a
lot
of
configuration
options
for
how
you
monetize
you
can
you
can
configure
which
type
of
auction,
but
it's
all
predefined
right
and
if
you
want
to
auction
your
nft
off
somewhere
else,
like
the
bids
that
occur
on
openc
don't
propagate,
because
the
bids
aren't
stored
in
the
nft
they're
sort
of
the
contract
that
interacts
with
your
nft.
B
Difference
that
I
am
nfts
is
that
I
am
nfts,
do
not
have
a
specific
standard
for
what
types
of
data
can
be
stored
in
them
and
what
types
of
operations
instead
it's
it's
kind
of
more
abstract
than
that
it's
a
language
and
protocol
for
defining
nft,
schemas
and
their
properties
so
yeah.
So
the
nft
carries
around
all
of
its
data,
regardless
of
what
contract
is
interacting
with
and.
A
B
It
carries
around
all
those
bits,
even
if
it's
on,
even
if
it's
listed
on
five
different
marketplaces
yeah,
all
those
bids
are,
are
in
the
nft
itself,
not
in
the
marketplace:
smart
contracts.
So
that's
that's
how
we
can
define
all
of
these
interesting
types
of
actions
and
relationships
because
we're
not
relying
on
moving
it
between
one
contract
or
another.
It's
basically,
you
add
a
contract
to
your
nfc
rather
than
adding
your
nft
contracts
right.
So.
A
So
meaning,
if
I
translate
it
to
our
scenario
here,
we
meant
a
first.
So
we
have
let's
say
five
knowledge
creators,
everybody's,
adding
an
a
paper
to
this
foundational
body
of
knowledge,
which
is
then
later
the
ebook.
We
would
mint
one
entity
the
the
first
nft
and
link
policies
that
are
tracking
contributions,
or
is
it
five
different,
nfts,
sc
or
yeah?
Maybe
both
of.
B
A
B
B
A
B
This
ebook
that
type
of
thing
yeah.
So
it's
all
up
to
you!
How,
in
the
policies
you
define
inside
of
the
nft.
A
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
on
policies;
okay,
and
in
this
logic
we
would
then
okay.
Let's
imagine
we
meant
five
nfts
and
mint.
A
B
You
could
create
a
new
energy,
that's
kind
of
a
composite
token,
that
that
has
all
of
them
in
it
or
you
can
or
you
can
mint
them
independently.
B
B
You
could
have
someone
later
come
and
claim
that
nft
as
an
independent
nft,
even
though
it's
inside
of
the
ebook
oh
yeah,
and
that
would
create
a
copy
but
a
verified
copy
right,
and
basically
your
policy
would
define
like
what
that
relationship
is
between
them
if
they
stay
linked
or
not
right,
but
that's
all
based
on
what
kind
of
properties
you've
decided
to
enforce
inside
of
the
e-book
nft
and
the
properties.
B
Look
something
like
I'll
write,
a
simple
example
so
say
this
would
be
I'm
going
to
read
myself
some
keyboard
slap
but
I'll
write
a
simple.
B
B
This
property
represents
this
clone
copy.
I
don't
know
right,
and
it's
saying
that
there's
some
there's
some
token
in
the
next
state
right.
The
state
change-
and
this
token
implements
basically
is
this-
is
the
way
of
saying
that
this.
This
is
the
same
as
the
same
as
the
original
nft,
and
I'm
saying
here
that
what
I
want
to
enforce
is
that
the
creator
of
this
copy
has
the
same
id
as
who
we
reference.
B
As
the
author
of
some
of
the
of
the
included
paper
right
and
I'm
saying
that
the
copied
nft
satisfy
also
satisfies
another
rule
that
self.update-
and
basically
I
didn't
include
self.update
because
I
made
it
up,
but
self.update
would
be
something
like
something
like
if
I
wanted
to
basically
merge
later
changes
back
into
my
original
nft
that
would
be
self.update
would
describe
to
the
properties
or
the
rules
to
do
that,
and
so
what
I'm
saying
is
that
by
saying
satisfies
rule
self.update,
I'm
saying
that
this
copy
implements
the
right
properties
so
that
we
could
later
make
a
state
change
that
merges
them
up,
and
that's
how
you
add:
that's
how
you
add
behaviors
to
your
nft.
B
So
they
don't
have
they're,
never
extorting
a
you.
Don't
have
to
move
your
nft
different
contracts
like
with
like
transferring
an
owner
to
to
a
to
a
contract
address
and
then
that
contract
will
like
mint
a
new
nft.
That's
like
one
to
one
to
the
nft
that
you
had
before
right
and
you
just
add
more
properties
to
your
nfts
and
they
automatically
enforce
those
rules
that
you
add
to
them.
A
Okay
makes
sense
now,
looking
at
the
at
this
facilitation
step,
so
we
have
yeah.
Okay.
The
textbook,
of
course,
is
a
special
example,
because
content
knowledge,
wise
the
facilitators,
are
not
adding
that
much
value.
Nevertheless,
they
are
producing
an
e-book
right
and
this
is
also
adding
value
to
it.
So
we
could
add
this
as
a.
A
We
have
some,
maybe
not
the
author,
but
we
would
have.
We
would
capture
additional
value
added
and
maybe
include
this
not
sure
if
we
should
include
this
in
the
update,
because
probably
it's
not
relevant
for
the
original
nft.
However,
we
are
able
to
capture
this
in
the
in
the
second
step
of
making
knowledge
accessible.
A
A
Or
is
it
in
what
way.
A
A
B
A
B
A
B
I
think
that
it's
possibly
a
trap
to
define
value
to
actually
implement
value
flows
at
this
level.
This
is
like
this
is
like
giving
you
all
of
the
paths
through
a
forest
and
how
you
decide
to
define
value
flows
is
one
path
of
the
forest,
but
you
need
to
know
which
paths
you
have
available.
This
is
the
scaffolding
for
knowing
all
the
paths
that
you
have
available.
B
Yeah,
because
with
option
b,
you're
you're
hard
coding
at
this
level,
what
you
decide
is
valuable
yeah,
but
what
you
can
instead
do
is
hard
code,
the
ability
to
to
basically
ad
hoc,
it's
similar
to
lenses
right,
the
lenses
that
whoever
is
looking
through,
which
lens
determines
what
they
value
right
and
so
as
a
as
a
community
or
as
an
organization.
You
can
use
this
to
define
higher
level,
basically
incentive
mechanisms
or.
A
And
I
guess
this
would
be
pretty
relevant
because
from
our
discussion
we
we
noticed
that
really
we,
we
might
have
this
case
of
the
fundamentals,
and
here
we
can
like
we
can
even
discuss
every
single
detail
of
a
value
flow,
but
there
might
be
other
cases
where
the
situation
is
entirely
different
and
and
to
have
this,
for
example,
peer
learning,
then
even
permissionless,
where
you
just
want
to
offer
something
and
benefit
from
or
let's
say,
get,
either,
increase
your
reputation,
skills,
proof
of
skills
or
compensation.
A
By
offering
this
this,
then
you
are
just
much
more
flexible
to
implement
case-by-case
policies
or
don't
include,
don't
do
any
value
flows
at
all,
because
you
see
it's
just
too
complicated.
In
this
case,
that's
cool.
B
Instead,
you
can
hard
code
what
kinds
of
information
you
would
need
for
the
va
for
the
types
of
value
flows
that
you
will
probably
use
right,
but
I
mean
at
the
same
like
this
is
say:
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone,
whenever,
like
the
ebook,
is
used
as
input
to
like
a
course
that
the
facilitator
gets
paid
and
the
knowledge
creators
that
were
that
were
most
used
in
the
course
got
paid
right,
because
the
course
is
based
on
the
ebook,
but
I
need
a
way
to
figure
out
which
knowledge
creators
were
more
impactful
in
that
particular
course.
B
A
B
The
structures,
each
knowledge
piece,
that's
included
in
the
ebook
and
then
those
can
propagate
you
can
even
make
those
propagate
at
the
policy
level.
By
saying
that
every
next
step,
like
every
clone,
the
clone
from
knowledge
content
to
the
ebook
they
clone
from
the
ebook
to
the
ebook,
where
you
can
add
a
different
course
to
it
right.
Every
time
that
happens,
you
can
enforce
that
say,
like
say,
like
the
relevance
addresses
are
compensated
and.
A
A
Makes
sense
now
I
think,
oh,
my
god,
we
are
on
top
of
the
hour
already.
What
does
the?
What
does
your
token
do
in
in
this
overall
concept?
So
when
it
comes
to
accounting
for
reputation
when
it
comes
to
accounting
for
monetary
value,
and
how
does
this
interact
with
other
tokens?
Since
our
let's
say,
the
funding
that
is
coming
into
the
system
now
in
monetary
value
is
from
external
sources,
with
a
variety
of
tokens
involved
and
and
where
where's
the
handshake
to
the
I
am,
how
is
it
called
m.
B
B
Mkt
right
now,
mkt
serves
one
purpose
right,
and
this
isn't
hard-coded
actually
what's
funny.
Is
this
isn't
really
publicized,
but
mkt
is
actually
any
sort
of
nft
created
with
with
us
right
now
is
actually
a
clone
of
a
of
a
meta
token
that
implements
our
crypto
economics,
so
we're
using
the
so
you
can
use
the
I
am
protocol
because
it's
an
app
it's
just
a
it's
just
a
language
and
and
data
structure,
description,
language
and
property
language
right.
B
You
can
use
that
without
using
our
token,
but
basically,
you
can
think
of
the
entire
network.
Has
a
single
route
and
the
root
of
that
entire
network
is
our
meta
token
and
our
meta
token
implements
our
crypto
economics
as
the
same
properties
that
I've
been
talking
about,
so
mkt
is
actually
defined
within
this
top
level.
Nft
and
mkt
is,
though,
a
fungible
token,
and
the
purpose
of
mkt
is
to
enable
every
single
token
that's
created
in
that
tree
right
to
be
able
to
have
automatic
compatibility.
B
But
you
need
to
make
like
you
might
want
different
tokens
because
you
want
that
creates
kind
of
a
boundary
between
them,
but
sometimes
people
are
in
both
and
you
need
to
be
able
to
transfer
them.
So
mkt
acts
as
that
kind
of
universal
reserve
that
you
can
deposit
into
your
nfts
in
order
to
provide
basically
easy
onboard
and
off
board
for
interacting
with
all
these
different
types
of
sub
tokens,
but
but
but
yeah,
you
don't
have
to
use
mkhc
to
use
this
protocol
because
mkt
is
just
behind
the
scenes.
B
The
same
way.
I
said
that
you
have
the
ebook
and
then
someone
clones
that
to
have
kind
of
the
additional
stuff
for
a
course.
Basically,
when
you
create
an
nft
on
im,
the
default
is
to
use
is
to
actually
clone
our
meta
nft
that
implements
our
crypto
economics.
But
you
don't
need
to
yeah.
A
B
If,
if
you
don't
use
that,
if
you
don't
use
the
top
level
meta
token,
if
you
don't
exist
in
that
tree,
basically,
then
it's
just
harder
to
have
like
currencies
and
fungible
tokens,
interoperate
right,
so
you're
kind
of
like
creating
your
own
network
like
there's
the
im
network,
which
will
eventually
have
like
our
impact
attribution,
but
that's
all
defined.
In
our
meta
token,
you
would
be
creating
a
peer
of
im
network,
but
still
using
the
im
protocol,
because
I
am
networks
I
am
network-
is
a
particular
network
built
using
the.
A
Your
own,
I
mean
because
for
us,
for
example,
it's
relevant
to
think
about
okay,
how
can
we
make
the
t
comments
token
over
time,
more
valuable
and
more
valuable
means:
okay,
increase
utility.
For
the
t
comments,
token,
and
of
course,
then
next
step
is
oh,
how
can
we
connect
tech
tokens
in
terms
of
paying
for,
of
course,
paying
for
having
access
to
proof
of
skills?
A
How
can
we
increase
the
utility
in
in
these
dimensions
of
a
tech
te
commons
token,
and-
and
I
guess
this
is
the
motivation
for
okay.
How
can
we
let
tec
flow
in
this
system
versus
implemented
with
mkt?
And
I'm
not
sure
you
say?
Okay,
it's
a
it's
a
particular
universe
of
nfts
and
value
flowing
in
policies
and
yeah.
We
would
have
to
check
if
the
if
our
content
should
and
if
it's
just
attractive
and
makes
sense
to
be
part
of
this
universe.
A
B
Asks
both
right,
because
I
mean
you:
don't
maybe
you
don't
want
to
use
yet
another
token
right
so
create
your
own
universe
using
the
protocol.
Maybe
you
do
want
to
take
advantage
of
all
of
the
different
interoperability
that
mkt
will
continuously
will
continuously
allow.
B
You,
like
you,
could
you
can
mince
you,
can
mint
a
token
the
way
you
meant
to
token,
if
you're,
using
the
mkt
specific
universe
is
by
depositing
mkt
into
your
top
level,
nft,
which
is
only
a
child
of
our
mkt
nft
and
basically
you'd
purchase
mkt
meant
to
deposit
it
as
a
reserve
into
your
top
level
nft,
and
then
your
token
would
have
that
reserve
right.
A
B
Then
then
you
can
do
things
like
pay
for
the
the
cross
chain,
bridges
with
with
with
mkt
or
your
custom
token
anything.
B
Costs
you
can
pay
for
with
mkt
or
with
any
other
custom
currency
can
automatically
be
used
with
mkt
yeah
behind
the
scenes.
So
so,
if
you
have
like
a
wrapped
like
like
wrapped
her
token
or
something
and
mkt
has
a
connector
to
curve
well,
you
can
use
curve
to
buy
into
say
something
and
tec
behind
the
scenes
is
automatically
transformed
into
or
exchanged
for,
mkt
and
then
transformed
it.
To
your
token
right.
A
B
Yeah,
I
think
so.
First
of
all,
we
should
focus
on
the
most
foundational
use
case,
which,
in
my
opinion,
is
the
ebook
plus
the
ability
to
like
create
other
structures
based
off
the
ebook
like
a
course
or
something,
and
I
would
just
say
to
think
about
the
the
underlying
data
structures.
The
types
of
information
you'll
need
to
embed
the
types
of
actions
you
think
people
would
create
and
people
would
need
to
be
able
to
perform
on
these
and
the
types
of
rules
or
policies
you
want
to
enforce.
B
And
basically
what
we'll
do
is
that
any
will
look
at
the
actions
and
the
rules
that
you
come
up
with
right
in
english
and
we'll
we'll
basically
just
see
okay
based
on
your
policies,
do
things
in
the
rules
around
your
actions,
input,
real-life
policies
or
do
we
need
to
add
additional
things?
B
A
We
might
have
a
next
iteration
on
a
specification.
The
thing
is,
I'm
we
are
coming.
We
need
to
bring
together
a
couple
of
workflows
which
is
okay.
We
could
now
specify
simplest
case.
Let's
take
the
e-book.
On
the
other
hand,
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
okay.
How
interesting
is
an
ebook
for
sponsors
and
external
funding
partners.
It
might
be
better
to
have
a
different
format
and,
of
course,
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
okay.
How
easy
and
quick
we
can
set
this
up.
A
A
B
A
note
is
that
you
know
it
does
you
can
create
these
ebooks
based
on
more
elemental
types
of
content
right
in
these
ebooks?
Are
they
really
ebooks
at
this
point,
when
you
can
create
videos
and
have
discussions
that
are
updated
in
real
time
as
a
part
of
them
right?
It's
a
whole
new,
really
type
of
content.
A
B
And
you
can
define
basically
what
what
it
means,
so
it's
like
you
can
think
of
it.
From
that
perspective,
an
ebook
is,
I
think,
a
very
composite
aggregated
data
structure,
and
that
means
that
it
has
different
types
of
elements
and
substructures.
That
themselves
can
exist
independently
as
more
granular
nfts
yeah.
So
so
think
about
that,
and
then
once
you
have
a
specification,
we
can
understand
the
scope
of
implementation
and
then
submit
the
the
grant
right
proposal.
B
A
Okay,
cool
I'll
come
back.
Who
was
the
organizer
of
this
call?
I
can
come
back
with
another
call,
invite
and
then
thanks
for
for
tonight.
This
was
really
helpful.
Tana
yeah
and
I
would
love.
B
B
That's
that's
a
good
question,
basically
with
another
project,
we're
working
with
we're
in
the
proposal
stage,
so
we're
a
bit
farther
along,
but
it's
larger
in
scope.
So
I
would
say
that
you
know
one
more
meeting
and
then
we'll
need
to
kind
of
figure
out
whether
how
long
the
grant
will
take
and
how
much
support
we'll
get
for
that,
because
by
that
time,
I'd
say
in
about
a
month
we'll
be
ready
to
decide
which
one
we're
going
to
throw
our
throw
the
majority
of
our
support
into.
B
Yeah
due
to
yeah
due
to
like
resource
constraints,
yeah.