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A
With
intentions
and
distractions,
just
because
I
know,
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
the
impact,
our
intervention
in
the
last
few
weeks,
and
I
want
to
give
a
space
for
everyone
to
bring
a
topic
that
you
would
like
to
talk
about
in
softcup
that
maybe
we
haven't
touched
on
yet
and
and
my
intentions
for
this
call
are
to
open
a
little
bit
the
decision
space
discussion.
So
how
do
we
make
decisions?
What
are
the
tools
we
have?
What
are
the
policies
around
them?
A
B
Yeah
my
intentions
is
to
get
into
the
impact
hour
intervention
discussion.
That's
really
exciting.
To
me.
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
really
interesting
things
that
we
can
talk
about
in
soft
gov
and
yeah.
I
look
forward
to
hearing
what
everybody's
thoughts
are.
No
distractions
really
yeah,
I'm
just
really
excited
to
for
soft
go
this
week.
I
don't
know
why
I'm
just
like
yeah,
the
soft
guy.
Let's
do
this
so
I'll
pass
it
down
murray.
C
Thanks
mate
yeah,
I
didn't
have
so
much
intention,
but
I'd
love
as
a
little
confused
to
hear
that
as
part
of
the
agreements,
the
agreements
that
are
made
with
the
tc
seem
to
be
that
these
agreements
we
make
until
we
want
it
or
we
see
the
need
for
a
change.
But
yet
one
of
the
main
proposals
seems
to
be.
We
shouldn't
change
anything.
C
So
I
was
a
little
bit
confused
about
that,
so
I'll
be
lovely
to
talk
through
distraction
wise,
I
am,
I
did
come
just
come
off
like
a
two
hour.
Onboarding
call.
I've
got
like
a
paid
roll
in
a
dowel
which
is
really
exciting,
but
yeah
that
it
was
like,
especially
like
a
hour
corner.
It
was
a
two
apple,
so
I'm
a
little
bit
brain
muggled,
but
yeah
good
to
be
here
our
parts
to
mount
money.
How
are
you
doing.
D
D
I
still
need
to
finish
the
token
free
stock
and
thaw
and
price
floor
forum
post
still
nervous
about
that,
but
I'm
gonna
get
that
done
asap
so
that
ready
for
launch
and
no
distractions.
I
know
you
you
checked
on
me
nate
regarding
that,
like
how
we
doing
I'm
getting
there
yeah.
That's
it
I'll,
pass
it
to
I'll
bust
it
to
griff.
What's
up
buddy.
E
Hey
man
yeah
good,
to
see
you
back
yeah
intentions,
just
to
hang
out,
listen
to
things
I
might
be
distracted
by.
You
know
impact
hour
discussion
while
we're
discussing
here.
I
was
diving
into
the
forum
post
and
doing
some
other
things.
So
that
might
happen
in
the
background,
but
I'm
excited
to
get
into
some
soft
guts
I'll
pass
it
to
did
durgados
go.
F
Oh
yeah
go
for
yeah,
I'm
I'm
interested
to
talk.
F
Impact
hours
discussion
on
the
white
board
behind
me,
you
can
see
I'm
looking
at
all
of
my
all
the
different
places
that
I'm
going
to
try
to
fix
in
the
world,
starting
with
decolonization,
but
one
of
them
is
about
ethics
and
consent,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
the
impact
hour
discussion
has
some
aspects
having
to
do
with
consent
and
informed
consent
in
particular,
and
I
think
that
was
also
anne
marie's
kind
of
question,
and
how
do
we
sort
of
conduct
ourselves
in
that
way?
G
Well,
intentions
is
to
hear
what
is
the
latest
thinking
around
the
things
that
we're
doing
and
support
soft
gov
in
helping
us
reach
some
conclusions
and
distractions
yeah?
I
am
finishing
something
in
the
kitchen,
so
I'm
on
my
phone,
but
I
I'm
like
98
here
and
I'll
pass
back
to
olivia
to
pass
on.
H
Thanks,
libby
yeah.
My
intention
is
also
to
talk
about
this
impact,
our
discussion.
For
me.
It's
super
interesting.
H
It's
like
I'm
learning
a
lot
and,
like
I
think
every
one
of
us
have
like
different
points
of
view,
but
all
of
them
are
equally
like
respected
and
valued
and
we
are
trying
to
make
a
decision.
The
base
decision.
That
cares
for
all
of
us
and
my
distraction
is
just
that.
I
just
finished
having
lunch,
but
I
am
fully
focused
in
this
goal
and
I
think
mateo
that
just
joined
your
intentions
and
distractions.
I
J
Thank
you,
yeah
intentions,
just
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
the
next
steps
regarding
the
impact
power
stuff
and
see
how
that
goes
and
provide
any
support
that
is
needed
and
instruction.
None.
K
Yeah,
thank
you
yeah.
My
intentions
are
similar
than
yours.
Just
clear,
get
some
good
on,
or
decision
space
like
and
more
transparency
on
our
processes
and
yeah,
no
distractions
I'll
pass
it
to.
A
M
Okay
intentions
are
here
to
listen
and
find
out
what
exactly
soft
gov
is
about,
and
my
distractions
I'm
expecting
someone
to
show
up
at
the
house
at
some
point
and
I'll
have
to
run
to
the
door
briefly
and
that's
my
distraction
and
that's
it
good
morning.
Everybody.
N
Hello-
everyone
olivia
summoned
me
so
when
olivia
summons
I'm
here,
she
said
there
will
be
discussions
around
decision
space.
So
I
I
will
maybe
not
stay
the
entire
time
as
I've
got
a
few
other
things
on
the
go
but
happy
to
contribute.
N
If
I
can
for
20
or
30
minutes
and
kind
of
listen
in
as
I
yeah,
I
think
it's
an
interesting
discussion
topic
so
olivia
glad
to
see
that
you're
leaving
this
discussion
and
facilitating
and
distractions.
N
I
I'm
just
sitting
outside
with
the
birds
and
my
pineapple
cup
drinking
soda
water,
so
pretty
focused
and
I'm
not
sure
who
went
so
I'll
pass
back
to
olivia.
A
So
we'll
we'll
just
talk
briefly
about
these
topics
that
I
think
they
are
related
with
with
the
impact
hour
discussion,
so
I'll,
just
repeat
for
who
wasn't
here
in
the
beginning
of
the
call
that
we've
been
looking
into?
A
What
is
our
decision
space?
What
are
the
tools
we
have
available?
What
are
what
are
the
types
of
voting
tools
we
have
in
softgov
and
what
are
the
policies
we
have
for
the
use
of
these
tools
and
how
to
choose
each
process
and
when
and
how
do
we
communicate
about
it?
How
do
we
go
about
it
and-
and
recently
is
optimism
and
lady
raised?
A
This
point-
is
that
how
do
we
have
more
transparency,
especially
on
like
what
is
the
quorum
for
a
vote
to
pass
in
the
forum-
and
we
haven't
been
talked
about
this
in
a
long
time,
because
when
we
kind
of
created
these
policies
for
the
farm
voting,
for
example,
we
had
way
less
people
in
the
community,
and
it's
definitely
a
time
to
update
this.
Now
that
we
are
a
larger
group
and
and
also
the
params
discussion,
opened
a
huge
knowledge
for
all
of
us.
A
That
is
the
importance
of
deciding
these
policies
and
of
having
thought
out
parameters
even
for
an
off-chain
vote,
so
yeah.
I
think
this
concept
of
the
quorum
is
really
fresh
for
for
everyone
and
what
is
the
quorum
that
we
need
for
the
forum
voting,
for
example,
so
I
just
wanted
to
propose
a
quick
exercise
that
we
all
jump
into
this.
A
It's
the
usual
agenda
so
that
everyone
jumps
in
here
and
that
we
have
a
little
brainstorming
session
on
what
are
all
of
the
tools
that
we
have
and
what
are
the
policies
to
use
them
so,
just
as
a
we'll
not
look
into
this
first
one,
yet
just
the
second
and
the
third
so
yeah,
just
everyone
can
jump
in
there
and
a
quick
10
minutes
or
maybe
six
minutes,
brainstorming
of
what
are
the
tools
we
have
and
what
are
the
some
of
the
rules
we
have
for
using
those
two.
N
Where
is
this
document?
I
looked
in
software
channel,
let's
see.
N
I'm
on
the
agenda,
you
want
us
to
put
it
right
there
in
the
agenda.
J
A
N
N
E
N
N
N
N
Olivia,
it's
okay,
I'm
also
going
to
add
the
questions
for
the
decision
space
also
that
we
came
up
with.
Actually,
I
should
look
for
maybe
the
updated
ones.
This
was
the
old
one
that
I
did,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
have
that
mirror
that
we
did
I'll
try
to
search
if
you
have
the
updated
ones
that
you
added.
A
Yeah,
I
think
it's
in
the
slide
deck.
N
K
A
A
Okay,
so
I
think
activity
blow
down
here
and
now
we
can
start
digesting
it.
It's
a
lot
of
information.
First,
does
anyone
has
comments
just
looking
at
this
anything
that
is
emerging
right
now,.
A
So
what
so?
What
is
the
decision
space
is
is
having
some
questions
before
it's
like
deciding
how
to
decide
and
what
is
the
space
that
is
needed,
or
what
are
the
actions
that
are
needed
before
a
decision
happens
so
jess?
Do
you
want
to
go
over
these
questions
that
you
just
posted.
N
So
I
had
originally
shared
this
with
the
stewards
and
then
it
ended
up
spawning
part
of
our
workshop
that
we
gave
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
on
decision
space
and
voting
space
with
myself,
olivia
renzo
and
jeff,
with
some
input
by
some
others,
so
yeah
just
looking
at
before,
we
determine
what
is
the
best
tool.
We
need
to
understand
the
kind
of
challenges
or
what
is
the
space
around
the
decision
that
we
need
to
make?
N
So
I
said
yeah,
what
is
the
decision
that
needs
to
be
made?
Who
does
this
decision
affect?
Do
they
have
a
say
in
the
decision?
Could
this
work
fall
under
a
working
group?
Does
it
require,
or
could
be
improved
by
subject
matter
experts?
What
is
the
suggested
tool
voting
type
and
why?
What
is
the
voting
process?
Is
the
tool
or
process
easy
to
interact
with?
Does
it
need
a
lot
of
overhead
to
kind
of
understand
the
tool
itself?
What
is
the
goal
for
engagement?
N
N
For
example,
we
were
talking
what
decisions
do
you
make
every
day,
and
I
said
what
to
post
on
twitter
and
livia
pointed
out.
Well,
not
everybody
has
that
as
a
permission
or
access
to
of
influence,
or
has
that
that
role
so
also
examining
like
what
access
do
people
have
and
how
does
that
also
affect
the
process?
So
I
don't
know
olivia
if
you
want
to
weigh
in
more
before.
We
also
hear
from
the
collective.
A
Yeah,
I
think,
a
good
way
to
understand
the
concept
of
decision
space
is
by
understanding
what
are
the
decisions
that
we
can
make
and
that
we
make
in
our
daily
lives
and
then
start
to
expand
on
that
and
likely
will
touch
the
edge
of
the
decisions
that
we
can't
make
and
understanding
like
this,
like
I
I
I
had
asked
jess
like
oh,
what
is
one
decision
that
you
took
today?
Oh,
I
posted
something
on
twitter
and
then
what
is
the
what
entitles
me
from
having
the
decision
of
posting
something
on
twitter?
A
Well,
there
is
a
power
that
I
have
that
I
have
the
credentials
of
that
twitter
account
and
I
have
a
say
on
the
content
that
goes
there
so
so
it
also
starts
to
weigh
in
like
what
is
our
decision-making
power.
C
A
Understanding
the
dynamics
of
of
power
that
exists
in
every
decision
that
we
make,
even
in
the
decision
of
like
what
to
eat
like
a
lot
of
people,
don't
have
the
privilege
to
decide
what
to
eat
and
then
what
is
my
decision
based
on
the
infrastructure
I
have?
So
all
of
this
may
sound
very
unrelated
to
what
we're
doing,
but
I
think
the
mo
the
more
we
start
getting
in
touch
with
our
personal
decision
space
more.
We
are
able
to
navigate
in
harmony
with
bigger
groups
when
we
have
to
make
collective
decisions.
F
So
the
inherent
in
the
idea
of
power
is
is
agency
right.
So
so
I
like
the
word
agency
as
a
as
a
as
a
slightly
alternative
way
to
say
power,
because
power
kind
of
implies
like
a
power
over
in
a
way
like
in
our
vernacular
sense.
So
it
can
be
tricky
to
use
precise
terminology
in
this
space
when
you're
talking
about
decision.
F
E
I
just
wanted
to
add
like
voting
tools
in
an
ideal
situation.
Every
voter
is
just
like
accurately
representing
their
signal
right,
and
this
is
why
ranked
choice
voting
is
generally
better
than
first
pass
the
post
voting
when
there's
multiple
things
because,
like
I
have
to
be
strategic
when
I'm
voting
for
president
of
the
united
states,
because,
like
okay,
maybe
you
know
ron
paul
would
be
my
first
choice
and
ralph
nader
would
be
my
second
one
and
dennis
kucinich
would
be
my
third
or
whatever,
but
they're
not
gonna
win.
So
I
just
vote
for
al
gore.
E
You
know-
or
I
vote,
for
whoever
and
then
because
they're,
the
least
of
the
worst,
but
then
you
get
this
output.
That's
like
oh
look.
How
many
people
voted
for
al
gore?
Actually
that
many
people
didn't
like
al
gore.
They
didn't
order.
George
bush,
it's
just
those
were
the
two
that
they
had
to
be
strategic
with
their
voting.
E
They
weren't
able
to
accurately
signal
their
beliefs
and
their
truth,
and
this
so
I
think
it's
important
to
see
how,
if,
if
strategy
starts
being
involved
into
how
you
vote
and
you're,
not
simply
signaling
your
truth,
then
you
probably
need
a
better
decision
tool
or
you
need
to
change
the
decision
tool
because
then
it's
complicated.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
really
great
point
and
I
think
that's
a
good
segue
for
the
next
session.
That
is
what
are
the
tools
that
we
have
and
we've
been
discussing.
How
limited
are
the
tools
we
have
now
and
and
how
we
might
take
time
in
research
and
work
for
other
other
tools
to
be
built,
and
maybe
that
we
could
have
like
some
type
of
dashboard
with
multiple
tools
that
we
can
use
based
on
the
understanding
of
the
decision
space?
So
what
do
we
have
to
decide?
How
do
we?
How
are
we
going
to
decide
this?
B
I
was
going
to
say
that
you
know
one
of
the
the
biggest
concerns
I
have
with
the
decision.
Making
tools
that
we
do
utilize
is
that
there's
there's
not
really
a
community
consensus
around
what
is
being
used
for
signaling
and
what
is
actually
being
used
for
decision
making.
Sometimes
we
use
tools
for
both,
and
I,
when
we
do,
that,
we
kind
of
convolute
the
conversation
so
like
with
the
impact
hour
thing
like
if
we
use
token
log
for
for
for
actually
making
a
decision
versus
saying
signaling
like
it
ended
up
being.
B
I
I
think
it's
either
way
works
really
well,
but
we
just
have
to
have
a
consensus
on
like
what
tools
we
use
for
con
signaling.
What
what
ones
we
use
for
decision
making.
N
That's
a
great
point,
nate
and
yeah
just
to
add
to
that
as
well,
also
that
the
type
of
decision
sometimes
also
matters
for
the
tool
like,
for
example,
with
the
praise,
the
the
kind
of
issue
that
is
being
debated
is,
that
is
the
distribution
of
hours
which,
using
token
log,
the
distribution
of
hours
is
used
in
the
voting.
So
the
thing
that's
being
disputed
is
is
actually
you
know
affecting
the
vote,
the
thing
that
people
are
supposed
to
be
voting
on.
N
So
I
think
that's
also
another
consideration
and
like
also
how
to
maybe
de-escalate,
because
I
feel
like
there's
this
kind
of
like
escalation
to
a
vote
like
if
it
can't
be
solved
with
advice
process,
if
it
can't
be
solved
with
this,
but
also
maybe
there's
a
frame
or
mental
model.
Also
for
myself,
like
that's
how
I
think
of
it
like
as
an
escalation,
but
maybe
also
there's
a
mental
model
for
de-escalation.
F
Well,
and
also
like,
if
we're
doing
projects,
maybe
tam
can
bring
some
other
mental
models
into
this.
But
generally,
when
I
work
on
a
project,
I
think
about
it
in
a
three-phase
thing
and
the
first
one
is
to
inventory
right,
and
so
I
feel
like
in
in
many
ways
with
this
someone
raised
an
issue
and
then
we
immediately
went
to
let's
make
decisions
about
it,
and
I
think
what
we
were
talking
about
just
a
second
ago
about
signaling
is
really.
F
How
is
it
that
we
can
inventory
all
of
the
signaling
so
that
we
can
actually
make
a
good
decision
about
how
to
vote
upon
that
thing
to
make
considerations
like?
Maybe
we
need
a
different
voting
mechanism
through
which
to
vote,
because
there's
an
inherent
conflict
of
interest
involved
in
what
what
you
were
just
saying
there
just
so
yeah.
It's
a
really
interesting
set
of
questions,
because
then,
if
I
go
immediately
from
somebody's
raised,
an
issue
to
deciding
and
then
implementing,
then
I'm
skipping
over
often
a
lot
of
key
signaling.
A
A
A
A
So
this
is
a
little
bit
meta
because
for
choosing
the
decision
making
policies,
we
also
need
to
think
about
a
decision
space
so
how
to
choose
the
decision-making
policies
and
they
were
mostly
chosen
through
advice
process.
So
far,
perhaps
we
can
discuss
how
they
will
continue
to
be
chosen.
What
is
the
process?
We
need
to
change
these
policies?
A
How
do
we
update
these
policies
and
how
do
we
add
some
that
are
missing
so
so
some
that
are
listed
here?
For
example,
we
do
have
a
cultural
understanding
that
we'll
need
to
post
in
the
forum
before
posting
proposals
in
the
dao.
So
even
though,
is
a
is
a
non-chain
tool.
We
have
a
soft
process
for
arriving
to
that
vote
and
then
the
forum
voting
happens
on
the
weekend.
So
this
is
also
a
policy
that
we
created
for
for
the
forum
voting,
but
it
hasn't
been
updated
in
a
long
time.
A
So
so,
as
of
now,
proposals
should
be
submitted
until
friday
and
then
the
results
are
out
on
monday
and
on
monday
we
add
them
to
the
spreadsheet
and
we
close
it
and
that's
it.
So
how
many
people
were?
They
voted
voted,
and
this
is
another
topic.
I
think
we
should
add
like
how
many
people
we
need
how
much
participation
is
needed
for
a
decision
should
be
made
right.
A
Now
we
don't
have
a
cap
or
or
a
bottom
like
if
15
people
voted,
we
considered
that
enough
and
the
rules
that
we
have
now
is
that
we
need
85
percent
of
approval.
So
if
there
is,
let's
say
more
than
15
of
the
votes
that
are
blocking,
then
that
proposal
needs
to
be
resubmitted
and
a
new
vote
needs
to
happen,
but
we
haven't
been
using
the
form
voting
so
much
so
we
have
like
all
of
these
other
tools.
A
A
If
you
don't
want
to
speak
and
if
you
feel
like
you,
don't
you
don't
have
an
input,
it's
fine
just
passing
to
the
next
and
then
we
can
have.
A
How
do
we
want
to
upgrade
the
policies
that
we
have
like?
How
do
we
want
to
make
these
decisions
for?
Do
we
want
to
limit
the
form
voting
to
a
specific
type
of
of
proposals?
A
E
Sure
I
I
think
the
big
thing
is
that
we
should
skate
to
where
they
say
skate
to
where
the
puck
is
going
right
like
we,
we
know
where
the
puck
is
going.
We
know
that
we
need
we're
going
to
have
a
hatch
down
that
has
dandelion
voting
and
has
one
major
vote
to
do
until
we
have
conviction,
voting
and
disputable
voting
as
new
tools
that
are
going
to
be
used
in
celeste.
E
So
these
things
need
to
be
integrated,
and
I
imagine
most
of
the
group
decisions
will
be
used.
Those
tools
will
be
used.
I
really
also
at
least
looking
at
the
space
snapshot
is
getting
a
lot
of
action
and
snapshot
is
very
easy
option,
voting
that
can
be
used
for
signaling
in
a
way
better
way
like
they
don't
have
ring
choice,
voting
which
I'm
really
excited
about
one
day
and
I'm
sure
that
it'll
happen
soon.
E
It'll
happen
a
lot
sooner
on
snapchat
than
it
will
on
chain,
and
so
I
fully
expect
us
to
have
like
to
do
a
lot
of
signaling
off
chain
with
good
tools
that
that
give
good
signals
right
and
then
ratified
on
chain
via
disputable
voting
or
yeah,
probably
via
our
disputable
voting
app
to
ratify
it
and
snapchat
is
a
really
nice
tool
because
we're
gonna
right
now
we're
in
this
weird
position
where
c-stack
token
holders
and
impact
our
token
holders
are
making
decisions
pre-hatched,
because
these
are
the
closest
thing
to
stakeholders
that
we
have
in
some
ways
they're
almost
like
potential
stakeholders.
E
I
mean
people
who
have
impact
hours
but
haven't
activated
their
membership
in
the
trusted.
Seed
will
not
have
tokens
in
the
hatch.
So
there
are
people
voting
right
now
that
actually
will
not
have
hatch
may
not
have
hatched
and
so
kind
of
our
our
constituency
changes
in
some
way
right
as
we
evolve,
and
then
once
during
the
hatch,
you
know
it's
only
trusted
seed
members,
it's
a
relatively
close
group
where
everyone
knows
each
other.
Well,
at
least
the
common
stack
knows
who
everyone
is
so
there's
some
reputation
at
stake.
E
There's
there's
a
lot
less
trust
in
that
community
and
so
it'll,
be
it's
kind
of
like.
I
feel
like
it's
really
easy
for
us
to
coordinate
around
group
decisions
and
have
token
log
and
other
random
votes
that
can
be
smaller
and
less
than
have
a
larger
percentage
of
engagement,
but
we're
so
we're
gonna,
slowly
scale
and
I
think
it'll
be
a
lot
harder
to
have
similar,
tooling
and
similar
strategies
with
so
many
people
with
skin
in
the
game
that
may
not
be
paying
attention
or
as
engaged
as
we
have
now.
E
H
Yeah
for
for
me,
this
is
super
fascinating,
like
what
I
find
is
that
yeah
there's
no
like
last
word
and
that
we
are
still
like
figuring
a
lot
of
things
and
yeah.
I
actually
like.
I
think
that
the
tools
that
we
use
are
the
best
best
tools
that
that
are
available.
Maybe
we
can
improve
a
little
bit,
but
I
think
that
no
decision
is
going
to
be
easy
and
that
there's
no
going
to
be
consensus
like
in
most
decisions
and
that.
H
It's
good
to
always
have
some
kind
of
descent,
but
it's
also
good
to
have
spaces
to
to
talk
about
them,
and
it's
also
good.
H
Yeah
to
to
to
be
able
to
to
talk
about
things
so
so
I
think
that
if,
if
things
are
are
are
to
be
changed,
I
think
that
we
are
doing
the
best
possible
to
allow
things
to
be
changed.
I
think
there's
no
blockers
around
the
organization
and
that
every
time
that
someone
shares
a
concern
there
is
like
a
proactive
talk
about
it,
so
yeah.
I
think
that
that
this
decisions
are
not
easy
and
it's
difficult
when
you
to
have
a
consensus,
but
that's
why
I.
H
I
asked
the
question
like
what
is
consent
because
yeah
we,
we
sometimes
think
talk
about
things
as
as
as
objective,
but
yeah
consent
can
be
like
a
can,
vary
in
the
in
the
time
so
and
and
within
contexts.
So
so
yeah.
I
I
think
it's
a
very
philosophical
discussion,
but
I
think
we
are
we
are
being.
H
We
are
not
being
like
blind
to
to
the
the
the
signaling
that
is
being
done
in
the
community
and
that
we
are
trying
to
incorporate
it
in
the
best
way
possible,
so
so
yeah.
I
also
think
that
that
sometimes
we
we
try
to
see
like
numbers
and
we
we
only
see
like
cold
numbers,
but
every
number
is
like
an
unit
of
measurement
of
value
and
of
and
of
of
of
labor
and
and
it's
very
difficult
to
to
to
measure
all
these
with
yeah
with
numbers.
A
Sorry,
when
I
think
we
went
a
little
bit
off
topic,
I
just
want
to
anchor
the
question
again.
That
is
what
what
types
like
in
in
in
a
and
still
in
a
loose
brainstorming.
But
how
should
we
approach
the
the
policies?
How
should
we
approach
the
rules
for
the
tools
that
we
have?
Do
we
need
to
add
some
new
rules?
What
is
the
decision-making
process
we're
going
to
use
for
that?
What
are
the
tools
we
want
to
continue
using?
A
Are
they
the
same
ones
that
we
are
using
right
now
or
we
want
to
introduce
others
like
griff
mentioned
snapshot,
and
so
how?
How
are
we
going
to
make
these
decisions
and
and
what
are
possible
tools
or
ways
that
we
can
use
in
in
this
process?.
N
Yes,
I
feel
like
I've
commented
a
lot
already,
so
I
kind
of
want
to
give
some
space
for
for
others,
but
thank
you
juan.
L
Thank
you
jess.
I
I
kind
of
agree
with
creative.
We
are
evolving.
We
are
now
one
type
of
organization.
That's
gonna
completely
evolve
during
the
hatch
and
after
the
hatch,
and
that's
something
we
have
to
consider,
and
another
thing
I
would
like
to
point
out
is:
I
would
love
to
use
blockchain
related
tools
as
much
as
I
love
the
forum
for
voting.
L
We
that's
a
third
party
tool.
We
don't
have
any
of
those
results
physically,
you
know
linked
to
a
ledger
to
a
and
there's
no
way.
If
that,
if
that
service
closed
down
or
are
all
our
information
is
gonna
be
gone,
and
I
would
hate
that
so
I
think
any
tools
that
we
use.
L
They
should
be
focused
on
the
blockchain
and
I
think
the
ones
that
we're
using
right
now
we
have
not
been
able
to
test
them
all
the
way
because
we
just
have
not
launched
yet
and
to
me
probably,
the
decision
would
be
to
use
those
that
are
most
used
by
the
community.
We
should
try
to
push
people
towards
those
that
we
think
are
the
ones
that
we
feel
more
comfortable
with,
like
the
mendelian
voting
or
conviction.
C
L
Any
good
feedback
I
will
pass
it
to
nate.
B
Yeah,
I
think
that's
the
the
tools
that
we
use
are
kind
of
secondary
to
the
overall
picture
of
like
how
we,
as
members,
individual
members,
interact
with
these
decision-making
framework.
B
When
we,
when
we
talk
about
like
you,
know
something
like
tec
services,
which
kind
of
just
happened
organically
and
they
formed,
and
they
they're
doing
something
in
the
tec.
Whether
whether
or
not
you
need
permission
to
do
that,
and
for
me,
like
I'm,
always
seeking
permission
and
and
having
this
mindset
of
like
I
have
agency
over
what
I'm
doing
is
very
very
important
mindset
to
have
as
an
individual
member,
and
so
how
do
we
move
from
like
ideation
to
signaling
to
voting
and
whether
we
even
need
a
vote?
B
You
know
sometimes,
when
we
post
a
forum
poll
or
something
like
that,
and
nobody
shows
up
to
me.
B
That
is
a
silent
signal
that
maybe
this
decision
doesn't
need
a
vote
and
it
could
be
accomplished
in-house,
but
having
those
types
of
having
a
framework
for
understanding
your
individual
role
within
the
decision
making
process
and
and
how
to
use
the
advice
process
that
is
available
to
you
is
is
probably
one
of
the
most
important
decisions
that
we
can
make
as
a
community
and
start
to
to
build
these
kind
of
social
behaviors
kind
of
like
that
that
we
use
over
and
over
again,
that
becomes
second
nature
to
us
within
the
community
will
make
us
so
much
more
efficient
and
you
know
a
lot
of
times.
B
You
know
we
may
not
have
the
right
tools
for
for
that
type
of
decision
and
they
shouldn't
be
forced.
You
know
if
something
needs
strange
voice,
voiding
or
some
form
of
approval
voting.
We
shouldn't
be
forced
to
use
quadratic
voting.
You
know
identifying
what
voting
methods
are
used
for
what
types
of
decisions
need
to
be
included
within
that
framework,
and
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
aspects
of
our
individual
understanding
and
more
discussions
around
having
that
individual
discretion
over
decisions
versus
kind
of.
B
Looking
for
somebody
to
look
to
towards
to
give
me,
you
know,
validation,
that
this
is
the
right
decision
and
so
not
something
that
needs
to
be
approved
by
the
community.
For
me,
that's
a
very
hard
concept
to
understand
and
so
having
a
framework
developed
that
we
all
agree
upon
and
that
we
all
practice
over
and
over
and
over
again,
is
really
really
important
to
making
good
decisions
in
this
community
and
acting.
B
F
So
I'll
just
say
that
to
griff's
point
about,
we
need
to
skate
where
the
puck
is
at.
I
often
I
I
I
just
came
up
for
me.
That
is
the
is
the
the
quadratic
voting
to
not
change
anything,
a
signal
that
people
haven't
gotten
really
that
message.
F
It's
the
fact
that
the
top
thing
that
that
everyone's
voting
is
like
we
don't
want
it
to
change.
Does
that
mean
you
don't
want
to
you?
Don't
want
the
hatch,
you
don't
want
this
non-trustable
population
of
people
suddenly
flooding
into
our
group,
and
you
want
everything
to
remain
the
way
that
it
is.
Is
that
is
that
what
that
signal
means?
F
You
know
that
just
popped
into
my
head,
what
nate's
saying
is
is
really
good
in
the
sense
that
you
have
agency,
but
we
also
have
responsibility,
so
there
must
be
a
balance
between
and
I
think
what
nate's
saying
is
that
he
takes
his
kind
of
idea
of
agency
and
and
feels
the
responsibility
involved
in
having
that
agency
over.
You
know
his
stewardship
of
whatever
it
is
that
he's
doing
so.
In
that
sense,
I
think
we
need
to
find
the
right
balance
of
tools.
F
You
know
to
kind
of
add
to
what
he's
saying
agency
carries
with
it
responsibility
right.
Just
like
power
does,
like
you
know
the
spider-man
thing.
So,
if
we're
using
the
word
agency
instead,
I
think
we
need
to
just
maybe
pair
that
up
with
agency
plus
responsibility
equals,
hopefully
a
a
a
diversity
of
ways
in
which
to
to
vote,
but
at
the
same
time
reproducible
enough
that
it
doesn't
confuse.
F
People,
I
guess
I
can
pass
it
to
his
optimism.
F
G
So
I'll
try
to
make
it
quick,
so
zeptimus
has
time
to
so
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
tools
that
are
available
to
us,
but
I
think
you
know
with
humility.
I
would
try
to
do
some
research
or
turn
to
subject
matter
experts
on
that,
because
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
tools.
Griff
mentioned
some.
I
think
just
messaged
some
and
it's
hard
to
know.
You
know
I
think
we
we
can.
G
We
have
voted
in
the
forums
and
using
quadratic
voting
with
token
log,
and
we
have
enough
empirical
data
that
can
and
should
inform
future
decisions,
and
I
think
that's
important
why
the
transparency
of
the
outcomes
is
so
important
and
so
useful
for
us
to
be
able
to
make
decisions
about
how
we
employ
the
tools
that
are
available
at
our
disposal.
Now.
G
I
guess
I
also
want
to
say
we
should
always
be
asking
ourselves.
Is
this
what
we
wanted
and
how
can
we
improve
past
his
optimus.
K
Yeah
thanks
tom
yeah,
I
kinda
aligned
with
what
santi
was
saying.
I
feel
like
the.
We
need
to
use
blockchain
tools
to
make
decisions
and
they
have
to
be
well
represented
in
the
code
and
yeah,
basically
off-chain
decisions.
We
take.
I
feel
like
it's
good,
to
use
signaling
tools
for
like
I
would
use
the
forum
for
signaling
and
yeah.
That's
it
and
we
know
we
have
code
mode
with
andelion
and
yeah.
C
K
Have
it
will
represent
it
on
the
code
and
I
think
that's
the
way
to
go
I'll
pass
it
to
chewie.
O
Thank
you
septi
I
well
I
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
to
to
say
like
about
the
tools
I
I
I
really
agreed
with
with
tam,
about
also
being
subject
to
more,
like
subject
matter
experts
like
opinion
and
advice
on
this,
but
from
my
personal
experience
like
taking
decisions,
I
feel
that
it's
always
nice
tools
like
the
like
forum
and
and
just
software.
O
I
I
do
get
the
relevance
trying
to
involve
like
blockchain
like
registered
decisions,
but
I
just
feel
that
some
sometimes
like
being
able
to
like
participate
in
decisions
that
also
like
don't
involve
like
the
the
seriousness.
If
we
get
like
a
blockchain,
I
also
feel
that
sometimes
this
this
could
also
be
be
positive
because,
like
not
all
decisions
involved
like
the
of
weight
and
seriousness,
so
it's
always
nice
to
like
participate
like
option
in
other
forms
of
like
soft
boats.
I
Sure
I
pretty
much
agree
with
what
nate
mentioned
about
having
a
framework
and
process
to
it,
because
we
should.
Our
goal
should
be
to
allow
people
to
make
their
voice
be
heard,
even
if
it's
someone
that
is
old
or
someone
that
came
recently,
even
if
he
struggles
or
not
addresses
it
or
is
going
to
be
associated,
I
mean
so
it's
not
much
about.
If
these
are
the
perfect
tools
right
now,
we
will
know
that,
with
time
we
will
evolve
with
the
tools
because
they
are
also
really
new.
I
So
maybe
time
will
tell
if
there
is,
the
tools
are,
are
actually
solving
the
issue
that
we
are
having
so
yeah.
I
think
the
the
tools
right
now
for
the
purpose
that
we
have
work
perfectly,
but
we
have
to
check
on
time
if
the
process
is
currently
the
the
perfect
for
us
and
serve
to
to
our
purpose
I'll
pass
it
too.
A
Yeah
we
are
on
on
the
top
of
the
hour.
If
anyone
else
has
comments
about
this,
you
can
drop
in
this
document
and
I'll
make
sure
to
read
it
and
all
of
the
this
will
be
available
for
everyone
to
also
give
more
ideas
or
jump
into
it
and
I'll
start
to
try
digesting
this
working
on.
A
Maybe
a
proposal
for
how
we
can
approach
a
framework
and
if
anyone
wants
to
help
me
with
that,
that
would
be
great,
and
just
just
let
me
know
then-
and
we
can
continue
this
conversation
and
just
the
last
thing
on
the
impact
hour
voting.
We
didn't
have
time
to
talk
about
that,
but
we
had
a
great
debate
earlier
today
and
we'll
have
I'll
book
another
one
for
tomorrow.
Also,
if
anyone
wants
to
book
a
debate
feel
free
the
close
the
votes
close
on
thursday
during
the
community
call.