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A
These
interactions
just
to
start
the
call.
A
Intentions
and
distractions
is
pretty
simple.
What
is
your
intentions
for
this
call
and
like
what
are
your
expectations
as
well
as
distractions,
just
calling
out?
Oh,
hey,
yeah,
my.
C
A
Know,
kids
in
the
other
room-
and
you
know
I
might
be
distracted
a
little
bit-
it's
totally
fun
so
and
then
pass
it
to
someone.
So
my
intentions
for
the
call
are
to
help
facilitate
a
really
cool
plan,
for
this
call
that
that
olivia
and
I
came
up
with
to
try
to
distill
the
vision
into
one
sentence.
A
I'm
hoping
my
intention
for
this
call
is
that
within
45
minutes
we
have
one
sentence
to
propose
to
the
group
that
of
what
is
the
t,
commons
mission
or
vision,
and
if
not,
then
we
actually
at
least
have
someone
who's
going
to
take
on
that
role
or
a
group
of
three
that
will
finish
it
today
and
and
distracted
distractions.
I'm
not
distracted
by
anything
I'll
pass
it
to
olivia.
C
Hi
everyone,
my
intentions,
for
this
call,
are
that
we
succeed.
We
succeed
in
coming
up
with
a
line
of
a
vision
statement
for
the
t
comments
and
I'm
I'm
also
here
to
help
one
with
miro.
If
that's
an
issue-
and
my
distractions
is
that
I
leave
in
egypt
and
internet
here-
sometimes
really
a
problem.
So
I
I
am
getting
a
bit
like
trying
to
get
in
the
board
right
now
and
I
will
pass
to
angela.
D
Hello,
I
just
stumbled
into
the
call
my
distraction
is
that
my
trousers
are
wet
because
my
eyes
spilled
my
coffee,
just
when
entering
the
call,
but
nothing
else
and
I'm
super
excited
for
yeah
to.
I
just
had
a
look
at
the
mirror
board
and
I
really.
C
D
Love
it
I,
like
the
the
all
the
quotes
from
from
people
joining
the
call
last
week
and
and
yeah
looking
forward
to
to
learn
more
since
I
missed
a
lot.
B
Hi
so
shepnam
invited
me
to
the
call
and
for
me
my
intention
is
to
get
to
know
this
space
and
you
all
a
bit
bit
better
and
to
start
participating
more
after
the
te
value
flow
course,
and
my
distraction
is
that
I
will
be
co-facilitating
the
holochain
death
camp
right
after
this
call.
So
I
might
be
a
bit
anxious
and
jumping
off
at
3
pm
thanks
and
so.
E
Vasily
hi
all
yeah,
I'm
just
a
guest
on
this
call,
so
I
was
invited
by
sebium
and
I
want
to
contribute
somehow,
if,
if
I
can,
but
first
of
all,
I'm
just
a
guest
and
want
to
you
know
dive
deep
inside
and
understand
how.
I
think
it's
getting
on
and
take
comments
at
the
moment
and
my
main
distraction
is
that,
right
after
this
call,
I
have
one
more
call,
but
it
is
not
distract
me
so
seriously.
So
I
think
it
was
okay.
F
Hey
everyone,
so
my
intention
here,
I
think,
is
to
well
work
together
towards
that
famous
sentence
that
I
hope
will
make
sense,
and
my
distraction
is
my
cat,
who
is
just
running
around
around
me.
So
it
should
be
right,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
are
forgetting.
F
H
Yeah
goodbye,
so
so
it's
just
me
yeah.
So
my
intention
is
to
yeah
just
listen
what
you
guys
have
inputted
and
already
digested
from
from
the
token
engineering
community
with
respect
to
values,
and
I
want
to
basically
get
a
hint
of
what
it
is
that
most
of
us
want
to
achieve
and
whether
the
projects
that
we
picked
up
are
already
in
line
or
not
probably.
H
They
are
and
then
facilitate
the
actual
synchronization
with
what's
happening,
and
my
distraction
is
that
my
that
we
actually
have
a
party
upstairs,
but
that's,
okay,
yeah,
my
grand
my
father-in-law
has
his
birthday.
A
A
All
right
did,
did
everyone
go?
Are
we
still
listening.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
nice,
I
think
easy
agenda
and
a
clear
path
for
distilling
this
all
of
this
data
into
one
sentence.
So
so
our
first
task
is
for
everyone
to
kind
of
read
through
everybody's
comments.
A
Livia
put
it
really
nice
and
organized
in
this
beautiful
board,
and
if
you
want
to
play
with
it,
you
can
copy
and
paste
the
board
beneath
the
board,
and
you
can
make
your
own
little
world
that
you
can
yeah
just
like
that
and
that
you
can,
you
know,
mess
around
with,
and
this
top
one
is
locked.
But
our
goal
here
is
to
read
all
of
these
notes
and
then
try
to
come
to
a
consensus
on
what
the
what
the
consensus
answer
is
to
questions
three
four
and
five.
A
So
you
will
write
your
own
answer
that
that
tries
to
be,
as
you
know,
as
inclusive,
but
also
you
know,
like
don't
be
afraid
to
put
your
own
opinion
in
there
slightly
on
what
the
like
group
consensus
is
for
questions
three
four
and
five,
and
then
after
that,
we're
going
to
do
the
exact
same
thing
together,
you're
going
to
read
what
your
answers
were
for
questions
three
four
and
five,
and
then
we're
going
to
try
to
quote
collaborate
and
have
a
conversation
about
what
our
question.
What
our
answer
is
together
or
five.
A
A
How
did
the
token
engineering
commons
bring
about
that
change
and
what
is
your
vision
for
the
te
commons
values,
funding,
culture
and
out
of
scope
are
providing
context
for
us
to
really
understand
the.
What
is
the
consensus
answer?
Oh
thank
you
olivia
for
these
pink,
these
pink
questions
and
then,
after
that,
everyone's
gonna
read
what
they
thought.
A
Their
consensus
answer
was
and,
of
course,
there's
no
wrong
answer
here
and
all
of
your
perspectives
are
extremely
valid
and
welcome
and
then,
but
then
we're
going
to
have
a
discussion
and
actually
try
to
narrow
down
what
our
our
collective
answer
for
question
five:
what
is
the
vision
of
the
two
economies.
D
I
D
F
D
H
A
Engineering
exactly
so
there
were
in
in
funding
culture.
It
was
kind
of
like
there's
funding
to
e
projects
that
provide
a
public
good
and
then
there's
in
general
for
society
or
you
know.
I.
I
think
that
the
question
was
a
little
confusing,
so
I
don't
know
what
everyone
really
thought
of
it,
but
it's
more
of
a
mission-focused
question,
so
it
provides
context.
A
But
then
the
e
was
the
most
specific
where
it
says
we're
only
going
to
fund.
You
know:
public
goods.
In
the
token
engineering
space.
B
I'm
sorry
I'm
a
bit
confused
reading
through
the
myrobor,
but
where
can
I
find
the
questions?
Three?
Four
and
five:
are
there
somewhere
explicitly
written.
C
C
H
H
A
C
A
A
G
So
I
basically
did
like
a
last
column
just
to
sum
up
everything
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
kind
of
the
right
way
to
do
it,
but
I
think
it's
kind
of
efficient.
A
Nice
yeah
in
the
end,
you
should
end
up
with
some
three
cards
that
have
your
answers
on
them.
H
H
A
A
C
Yeah,
should
I
once
I'll
replicate.
Thank
you
big
in
here.
C
I
C
C
F
A
Okay,
I'm
definitely
going
slow.
How
are
you
guys
doing?
How
close
are
you
guys
to
having
the
answers.
D
A
I
A
F
H
A
I
will
say
that
we
have
three
more
minutes
so
make
sure
that
we
have
time,
but
if
you
feel
like
you
didn't
finish,
while
people
are
presenting
their
results,
you
can
just
say.
Oh
pick
me
last
because
I
know
I
need
to
be
picked
last.
A
F
F
F
A
G
A
F
Yeah,
the
the
vision
is
the
hardest
one
like
there's
a
lot
of
different
answers.
E
E
E
A
A
Oh
okay,
so
who's
done.
I'm
done.
A
A
A
Oh
yeah,
angela
for
the
win:
okay,
okay,
angela,
you
start
and
then
sorry
I
wasn't
watching
the
screen
is
that
cyprian
who's
done.
A
A
Oh
yeah,
yeah
ty,
definitely
type
it
out
and
make
some
note
cards
and
and
then
then
then
you're
really
done.
I
D
A
A
I
think
I
think
olivia
needs,
or
maybe
maybe
I
can
you
know
what
I
can
do.
I
can.
I
I
think
I
close
the
board
and
now
I
can
just
make
this.
Oh,
maybe
not.
D
Let
me
check
first,
I
perhaps
should
sign
in
or
log
in.
A
You
can
yeah,
you
can
just
put
three
notes
with
your
answers
somewhere
and
then
we'll
we'll
we'll
we'll
organize
it.
After
the
call.
Libya,
probably.
A
Okay,
so
well,
maybe
maybe
we'll
just
go
with
cycling.
You
can
go
first
and
then
then,
and
then
do
you
say
vasiliy
that
you're
also
done.
F
F
Yeah,
I'm
the
lowest
one,
so
I
did
like
a
last
column
which
I'll
call
sum
up,
and
I
I
just
summed
up
like
from
every
line
so
then
should
I
should
I
read
it
or
leave
you.
C
F
To
it,
okay,
cool
so,
first
the
funding
culture.
I
I
think
it's
found
mostly
te
focus
project.
I
provide
a
public
good.
That
was
the
answer
from
everyone
more
or
less.
Then
what
is
out
of
scope?
I
think
it's
funding
anything
that
isn't
open
source
or
will
not
benefit
the
tea
community
so
that
if
we
find
something
that
is
open
source
but
does
not
benefit
okay,
so
it's
an
end.
Actually,
it's
not
or.
F
F
Then
the
fourth
one,
how
the
t
command
can
bring
about
that
change.
Research
on
education-
that's
pretty
much
the
same
as
angela
said,
but
I
think
it
sums
up.
It
sums
it
up
pretty
well
and
then
what
is
your
vision
for
like
the
the
vision
for
the
comments,
I
think
it's
funding
and
policies
that
was
very
like
the
hardest
one,
but
I
think
it's
like
how
do
we
like
the
long-term
vision?
F
Is
the
t
comments
will
be
the
this
pool
of
funding
and
this
pool
of
policies
that
kind
of
directs
how
the
funding
work
and
how
do
we
administrate
the
knowledge
that
is
produced
thanks
to
that
funding?
F
Nice?
Actually,
I
should
add
voices
for
noise
management.
F
A
very
very
high
level,
but
I
think
it's
captures
most
of
what
people
said
and
finally,
values.
That
was
the
easiest
one,
because
it's
kind
of
granular,
so
you
have
transparency,
diversity,
integrity,
safety
and
common
good.
H
A
H
A
H
Yeah
I
I
also
would
have
needed
another
round,
but
maybe
it
is
already
useful
as
a
sort
of
sifting
through-
and
this
is
the
second
yeah
you
see
where
I
am
maybe.
H
Useful,
so,
basically,
how
will
the
world
changed,
and
literally
I
just
went
through
all
of
it
and
picked
up
what
I
think
belongs
together,
but
couldn't
come
up
yet
with
with
a
synthesized
word
for
every
star,
but
literally
the?
How
will
it
change
the
world
will
be
more
humane,
self-sovereign,
empowered
communities?
H
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
new
value
creation
possible,
but
yeah
the
world
will
be
safer,
anti-fragile,
mature,
widespread
democratized
understanding
of
what
we're
building
at
large
scale,
and
this
is
how
the
world
will
change.
H
H
That
was
super
clear
in,
in
my
view,
from
what
I
read
and
what
is
the
vision
for
the
t
comments
that
certainly
needs
another
round,
but
obviously
it's
interesting
that
many
people
also
see
it
it's
beyond
crypto
reaching
through
others.
I
would
even
go.
You
know
digital
economies
or
digital
information
societies
how
to
bootstrap
a
disneyland
or
or
this
labor
output
attention
funding,
labor
that
that
is
kind
of
self-sustaining,
something
right
so
and
it
is
bootstrap
meaning.
H
The
intention
of
funding
that
goes
in
there
is
important,
not
just
funding,
but
intentional
funding,
and
the
vision
is
that
that
will
produce
battle,
tested,
safe
infrastructure
like
governments
do,
but
for
our
community
or
for
this
digital
new
society,
and
it
will
be
based
on
the
science
of
incentives.
H
A
Yeah,
very
good,
okay!
Well,
I
see
angela's
posted
notes
down
here.
Do
you
want
to
go
for
it?
Angela.
D
D
I
was
thinking
about
first
t
comments,
only
funds,
but
then
I
thought
yeah
and
this
should
be
also
about
aligning
incentives
and-
and
then
I
thought,
okay,
what
does
that
mean?
And
I
think
this
tiny
little
difference
really
can
make
a
huge
difference
when
it
comes
to
te
commons
activities,
definitely
not
sure,
yeah
and
last
one
there.
I
was
struggling
a
little
bit
and
I
decided
then
to
go
okay
for
the
actually.
What
yeah?
I'm
not
really,
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
a
vision,
but
I
I
I
was
trying
to
collect
what's.
A
A
A
The
tools
for
the
last
one,
let's
see
it,
looks
like
there's
someone
who
who
wrote
these
down
here.
A
A
Okay,
well,
I
would
love
if
okay,
I
will
go
really
quickly
and
then
the
people
with
the
heart
stop,
please.
Please
speak
up
and
and
go
next.
Okay.
So
for
me
the
the
how
the
world
will
change
because
of
the
tc
basically
felt
like
the
vision,
and
I
I
I
said
that
the
world
will
be
more
accessible
to
all,
with
safe
and
well-designed
financial
infrastructure
as
a
public
good.
A
I
liked
something
that
chris
really
said
for
the
next
one:
how
did
te
collins
bring
about
that
change
by
creating
a
regenerative
economy
which
is
kind
of
with
the
aligning
incentives
and
funding
but
creating
a
regenerative
economy
that
rewarded
contributions
to
te
research,
education
standards
and
many
other
public
goods
that
wouldn't
otherwise
have
a
path
towards
being
supported,
also
communicating
the
risks
to
poorly
engineered
systems?
A
So
because
I
a
lot
of
people
said
that
last
part-
and
I
thought
that
it
I
I
needed
a
shoe
hornet
in
there-
that
the
te
commons
is
like
a
protector
of
some
sort
and
then
as
a
vision
I
kind
of
just
cheated,
because
I
was
I
ran
out
of
time
and
took
the
top
one
and
said
the
vision
is
to
create
a
world
that
that
has
us
with
sorry
the
created
world
with
a
safe
and
well-designed
and
aligned
financial
infrastructure
that
is
accessible
and
accountable
to
all,
and
I
was
actually
really
influenced
by
angela's
comment
on
that
one,
not
on
this
one,
but
maybe
on
one
of
the
other
cards
about
the
democracy
in
foddy.
A
B
I
still
can
do
like
10
minutes,
but
I
can
go.
Go.
B
Yeah,
so
I
have
the
same,
I
think
the
same
approach
I
cheated
in
conflating
question
number
three
and
number
five
and
still
get
to
distill
that,
but
for
me,
what
was
standing
out.
The
most
was
the
kind
of
healthy,
democratic
and
equitable
public
infrastructure,
allowing
for
less
dependence
on
the
extractive
parts
of
private
or
state
sector
and
encouraging
more
interdependence
or
independence
or
healthy
interdependence
and
value
sovereignty
and
yeah.
I
would
still
need
to
make
it
a
more
digestible.
B
I
guess,
but
this
is
the
part
of
the
way
and
for
the
question
number
four,
so
how,
through
developing
the
science
and
practice
of
incentives
or
ecosystem
incentive
alignment,
education,
research,
experimentation,
dog,
fooding
and
diligent
ethical
practice
and
reflection
and
again,
I
think
I
would
need
to
package
it
more
digestibly.
A
Yeah,
who
else
still
needs
to
go.
C
No,
I
just
did
the
first
one
that
is
economic
system
design
as
a
safe
and
inclusive
public
good.
I
A
Okay,
okay,
so
now-
and
I
understand
you
have
to
leave-
I'm
really
sorry
for
going
over-
I'm
not
too
surprised
that
we
weren't
able
to
get
through
all
this
in
time,
but
now
now
we
have
to
try
to
get
it
to
one
card
and
it
seemed
like
three
and
five
really
both
need
to
be
distilled
into
one
thing:
what
what
did
you
guys
like?
Maybe
should
we
do?
How
do
you
yeah?
Do
you
have
yeah.
A
H
So
so
I
think
I
don't
know
why,
but
I
think
jakub's
last
summaries
of
three
and
five
distilling,
those
and
also
there
were
repetitions
of
the
most
important
catchphrases.
I
think
makes
sense
that
that
the
distillation
of
three
and
five
into
a
vision
statement
could
work
out
and
the
how
is
pretty
clear
like
adding
yeah
so
yeah,
probably
you
will
need
to
have
another
round,
but
I
think
now
it's
easier.
A
Oh,
it's
definitely
easier
well
do
we
want
to.
I
don't
have
a
plan
for
how
to
now
distill
what
we've
distilled
so
I'm
open
to
suggestions.
I
thought
we
would
just
debate
it,
but
maybe
what
are
some?
What
is
like
a
very
key
piece
that
needs
to
be
in
there.
E
Oh
vasili
yeah,
yeah
yeah.
I
think
I
was
missed
a
little
bit.
Sorry
yeah,
so
I
will
be
very
fast.
So
when
I
thought
about
these
questions,
I
I
tried
to
be
a
side
of
crypt
outside
of
blockchain
and
think
in
economic
point
of
view.
So
I
think
that
how
war
will
change
because
of
tech.
E
I
think
that
the
main
change
will
be
that
people
will
create
their
own
economic
systems
and
mechanisms
that
are
independent
from
state
corporations
and
are
tied
to
real
values,
because
a
lot
of
things
in
our
present
economy
is
not
tied
to
railways.
For
example,
oil
futures
are
tied
to
those
very
simulated
prices,
so
we
are
living
in
in
the
world.
We
have
bananas,
it
is
a
real
value
and
we
have
stocks.
E
This
is
not
railway,
but
our
life
is
affected
by
you
know
some
bubble
value,
so
I
think
this
will
be
the
change,
so
how
the
comments
will
bring
that
change.
I
think
here
we
have
two
pieces,
tech
infrastructure,
because
majority
of
people
don't
understand
anything
and
they
just
want
a
product
to
use
it
for,
from
my
point
of
view
and
from
education,
because,
for
example,
if
you're
in
in
africa-
and
you
want
to
sell
iphone
to
some
people
who
don't
know
anything,
you
need
to
sell.
E
This
iphone
need
to
describe
them.
That
this
is
super
high
tech
stuff,
that
it
is
cool
that,
for
example,
you
will
be
most
like
coolest
person
in
your
family.
If
you
have
a
iphone,
so
you
need
to
go
to
their
brains
and
sell
them.
Then
they
have
another
approach
to
make
some
stuff,
so
education
and
tech
infrastructure.
And
what
is
my
vision
for
token
engineering
commons?
E
It
is
a
system
that
promotes
and
supports
social
and
economic
changes
and
for
me
the
most
important
example
is
from
private
goods
to
public
goods
and
from
aren't
extraction
to
rent
using
inside
the
community,
because
the
majority
of
businesses,
at
the
moment
they
just
extracting-
aren't
from
economic
processes
to
to
the
stakeholders,
and
so
they
dry
economy.
They
take
out
the
rapidity,
and
I
think
that
a
very
important
thing
is
to
keep
this
around
all
this
surplus
inside
the
community
and
to
help
them
to
grow,
grow
and
grow
the
economy.
A
Yeah
those
are
really
good
okay,
so
now
I
guess
we
can
try
to
pull
out
our
favorite
lines
from
all
this
and
and
try
to
put
it
in
one
card
here.
D
Can
you
hear
me
yeah,
okay,
I
I
have
to
leave
now.
I
have
actually
scheduled
another
conversation
with
chapman.
I
think
what
what
I,
what
might
be
important
I
realize
now
is,
is
the
verbs?
What
what
is
the
t
ecoms
commons
actually
doing?
Is
it
funding?
Is
it
governing?
Is
it
aligning
incentives?
Is
it
offering
whatever,
because
I
think
that
makes
the
difference
for.
H
You
know
the
outcome,
so
I
think
they're
there.
I
don't
know
it's
difficult,
but
I
think
maybe
another
round
of
just
quietly
looking
through
what
what
has
been
distilled
now
might
even
give
a
more
distilled
view.
Yeah
right,
I
agree.
I
B
And
I'm
sorry,
I
also
also
will
have
to
have
to
jump
and
perhaps
last
comment
I
wasn't
on
the
first
around
and
what
I'm
finding
that
I'd
like
to
see
a
bit
more.
I'm
not
sure
if
in
this,
like
this
whole
conversation,
but
more
emphasis
on
what
might
be
the
threats
actually,
because
what
I'm
finding
that
kind
of
every
digital
infrastructure
of
this
kind
gets
co-opted
at
some
point.
H
I
A
Okay,
so
I
think
the
first
step
is
figuring
out
how
we
want
to
come
to
a
distillation.
Do
you
guys
have
any
brainstorms
like?
Should
we
just
start
my
my
my
theory
would
be
to
start
pulling
out
little
pieces
and
trying
to
try
to
like
debate
which
ones
go
in
or
not.
F
Yeah
like
try
to
divide
it
by
like
like
tag
taglines
or
just
expressions
or
group
of
words
that
we
can
reuse,
because,
in
the
end,
we're
kind
of
all
talking
this
about
the
same
thing
just
like.
How
do
we
put
it
in
the
courier
in
sentence.
F
So
I'm
sorry
I
just
yeah.
I
was
waiting
for
my
devs
to
call
me
and
they
are
calling
me
now
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
jump,
but
thanks
a
lot
for
organizing
that,
and
maybe
we
should
do
like
a
follow-up
call
on
the
distillation
process,
because
we
we
did
a
super
good
job
of
kind
of
putting
all
together.
Now
we
just
need
to
sift
through
it.
You
know.
A
Yeah
the
the
goal
is
that
we
we
will
come
out
with
once
with
the
sentence.
It's
probably
going
to
be
a
long
one
and
then
post
it
and
then
hopefully,
on
thursday.
We'll
have
another
call
where
we
oh
well,
asynchronously,
we'll
debate
it
and
then
on
thursday,
we'll
solidify
it
and
then
talk
about
mission
and
values.
A
F
E
So
grief,
I
think
that
your
answer
for
question
five
is
really
good
and
I
added
it
to
like
to
the
distillation.
E
A
Yeah,
I
I
have
to
agree
that
crypto
is
means
to
an
end.
You
know
it's
like
we
don't
talk
about
air,
we
don't
talk
about
the
airplane
when
we
say
we're
going
to
fly
to
spain.
You
know,
like
you
know
it's
just
like
the
yeah
that
that's
part
of
the
infrastructure,
but
that's
not
the
the
goal
is
to
get
to
spain.
E
E
But
it
is
a
question
say
from
the
you
know,
cyber
security
point
of
view
or
say
from
the
economic
point
of
view,
because
you
know
this:
fiat
system
is
not
safe
from
the
economic
point
of
view.
E
C
I
think
that's
something
we're
gonna
discuss
more
in
the
value
session,
because
then
we'll
have
all
the
values
and
we
can
break
them
down
and
see
what
they
mean
for
each
person
that
talk
about
them,
but
even
if
we
have
an
agreement
now
that
we
need
a
safe
system,
that's
enough
for
the
vision,
I
think
and
then
after
we'll
find
out,
what's
safe
me.
E
Yeah
and
for
example,
when
I'm
talking
about
independence
from
states
and
corporations,
it
is
also
about
safe
infrastructure,
because
if
you
use,
for
example,
fiat
system,
you
are
tied
to
all
risk.
So
you
you
make
your
own
solution
like
fintech
solution
on
fiat
infrastructure,
but
but
you
carry
all
risks,
for
example,
that
your
bank,
a
respondent,
will
be,
will
have
more
debt
that
he
can
provide
payments,
and
you
know
so
on.
So
when
you
like
make
a
border
between
your
system
and
this
big
and
like
poisonous
system,
you
eliminate
a
lot
of
risks.
E
A
C
I
would
say
that
a
mix
of
this
too
your
answer
and
angela's
answer
would
be
the.
C
I
don't
know
what
includes
more
of
all
the
views
that
were
given.
E
So
grief,
I
I
have
a
proposal.
Maybe
we
can
add
to
the
to
bring
a
safe
infrastructure.
Maybe
we
can
add
something
about.
You
know
social
changes,
because
these
systems
are
are
different
from
the
existing
ones
and
it
is
a
great
shift
in
mind
to
use
them
so
and
you
need
not
only
bring
infrastructure.
You
need
to
bring
new
mindset
to
the
people.
A
E
Yeah
yeah,
it
is
question
four
about
education,
but
about
what
is
the
vision
for
talk?
Engineering
commons?
It
is
not
only
about
infrastructure.
I
think
it
is
also
about
social
change,
so,
for
example,
blockchain.
It
is
about
tech
significantly
about
tech,
but
a
lot
of
about
new
social
changes
about
your
new
mindset
because
a
lot
of
people
they
cannot
understand
bitcoin.
Even
if
they
work
in
banks
and
like
investment
banks,
they
need
maybe
months
to
understand
why
it
is
completely
new
asset
class.
E
Would
so
the
mindset
that
is
now
in
maybe
99
percent
of
people
minds
is
that
in
every
process
there
is
a
particular
person
or
entity
that
can
answer
so
the
bank,
the
state,
the
corporation,
you
go
and
said
your
product
is
bad
for
my
money
lost
and
they
give
you
this
money
back.
You
can
go
to
the
court
and
when
we
are
talking
about
automated
token
engineering
systems,
often
you
don't
have
a
master
key
all
right.
So
it
is
a
really
centralized
system
and
to
shift
the
mind
it
is
social
change.
A
Okay,
so
I
think
I
think
that
we
should
go
back
to
everyone
creates
their
last
distillation,
because
I
can't
because
I
I
can't
think
I
can't
distill
it
and
and
think
at
the
same
time.
A
You
know
what
I
mean
so
maybe
vasily
and
olivia,
let's
all
just
like
write
one
more
and
then
and
then
from
those
three
we
can.
We
can,
I
think,
with
just
three
of
them:
it'll
be
really
easy
to
like.
Oh
yeah,
you
nailed
it.
Okay,
let's
add
this.
E
I
E
So
I
made
my
own
distillation
for
third
and
four
question,
but
for
the
five
for
the
fifth
question,
I
don't
I
don't
know
because
I
like
my
own
view,
but
I
think
it
is
not
honest
to
use
my
own
view
as
a
distilled
one.
So.
A
Well,
I
mean,
if
I
mean,
if
you
don't
think
it's
changed,
I
think
we
it's
it's
fine.
If
that's,
if
you
don't
think
you
have
anything
to
edit
it
to
make
it,
you
know,
I
think
some
yeah.
E
A
The
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
get
something
that
feels
like
an
end.
A
But
we'll
put
them
all
together.
A
A
A
C
A
It
I
don't
see
the
silly.
Yes
sorry,
I
guess.
A
Second,
okay,
so
I
think
I
just
copied
your
new
this
area.
A
E
A
E
You
know,
I
think
I
think
that
the
the
fifth
one
is
so.
I
already
said
that
it
is
like
technical
side,
the
system
from
technical
side
and
social
economic
changes
from
the
you
know
human
side,
but
I
think
maybe
your
your
definition
can
be
more.
You
know
more,
not
so
generalized
with
some
particular
stuff,
because
mine
is
too
generalized.
I
think.
A
Yeah
I
mean,
and
also
it's
it's
very,
I
feel
like
it's
mission,
you
know
like
the
next
step
I
mean,
and
maybe
this
is
a
mistake
in
how
we,
how
we
did
this,
where
we're
doing
just
the
value
and
then
just
the
mission,
and
then
you
know
or
sorry
just
the
vision,
because
if
we
I
feel
like
the
mission
and
the
vision
are
together,
you
know,
but
okay,
the
tv
comments
on
system
system
design.
A
Want
to
kind
of
have
this
to
create
a
world
with,
is
like
a
starting
point
that
kind
of
frames
this
picture
yeah.
So
are
you
guys
down
with
that.
E
E
A
E
So
I
think
that,
for
example,
if
you
didn't
use
bitcoin-
and
you
start
use
bitcoin
in
common
life,
it
is
really
a
big
social
change.
In
your
mind,
it
is
how
I
consider
it
is
so,
for
example,
if
previously
you,
you
know,
kept
all
your
money
in
fear
and
some
you
know
stocks
I
mean
fear,
centralized,
feared
stocks,
and
now
you
keep
your
mind
in
bitcoin,
ethereum
and
maybe
a
token.
E
So
it
is
also
big
social
change
and,
for
example,
if
you
worked
in
you
know
just
private
business
and
get
your
salary
or
now
you're,
working
in
like
cooperative
and
you're
how
it
will
be
sorry.
So
for
me,
the
you
know,
economic
change
is
when
you're
transiting
from
private
owned
firm
to
cooperative,
where
all
are
equal,
where
all
can
get
a
share
of
share
of
value
that
is
produced
by
this
cooperative,
where
we
don't
have
entity
that
extracts
rent
so
trouble,
we
make
a
lot
of
stuff,
we
sold
it.
E
We
have
a
lot
of
money,
but
nobody
will
take
it
out
and
we
will
be
poor
next
day.
So
we
will
like
allocate
this
money
to
new
production.
Part
of
mind,
if
we
will
allocate
to
the
people,
so
it
is
like
a
dao
right
so
as
for
me,
the
dao,
it
is
like
a
cooperative
model
and
private
owned
firm,
which
is
not
a
doubt
at
all.
So.
A
C
I
I
think
whenever
so
public
goods
come
up,
I
think
about
social
change
and
I
feel
like
it
breaks
the
scope
of
what
is
being
done
because
then
people
know
like
oh,
it's
bringing
social
change
through
public.
E
E
No,
I
think
it
is
about
that
it
is
independent
from
the
state
and
from
the
current
system.
It
is
not
about
that.
One
community
is
competing
with
another,
so
community
can
collaborate
and
can
make
you
know
some
unions,
guilds
and
all
this
stuff.
So.
E
Yeah,
yes,
so
the
reason
why
I
why
I
wrote
independent
from
the
state
and
from
corporations
and
tied
to
real
values,
because
when
you
are
tied
to
you
know
traditional
financial
system,
you
are
tied
to
some
derivatives
to
some.
You
know:
you're
not
tied
to
real
value,
so
even
the
money
on
your
bank
card.
It
is
not
a
minus
a
debt.
I
think
you
know
you
understand
things
so.
E
And
when
you
have
tokens,
it
is
absolute
value.
So,
like
a
coin
of
gold
and
the
token
it
is
like
a
physical
value
but
an
electronic
in
digital
representation.
So-
and
I
think
it
is
like
one
of
best
value
proposition
of
crypto
that
you
are
working
not
with
some
derivatives,
not
with
some
air.
You
work
every
minute.
You
work
with
physical,
but
digital
good,
yeah,.
C
I
would
I
would
suggest
that
that
would
take
a
fresher
look
at
this
in
like
10
minutes.
If
we
can
and
then
continue
to
work
on
it,
async.
C
I
don't
know
at
least
I
feel
a
little
bit
puzzled
with
everything
that
is
in
there
now,
and
it
would
be
good
to
take
another
look
and
then
combine
all
of
these
things
together.
E
Yeah,
so
I
need
to
go
to
another
call
soon.
So,
if
it's
possible,
I
will
review
it
a
little
bit
later.
Okay,
yeah.
A
E
I
will
send
it
here
in
chat
in
chat
and
do
we
have
a
chat?
Yes,
yes,
we
have
a
chat.
A
E
Yeah,
thank
you.
It
was
a
pleasure
to
meet
you
here,
one
more
time
so
and
I
have
a
question
before
I
will
leave.
It
is
like
a
topic
one.
I
wanted
to
chat
about
this,
maybe
several
weeks
ago,
but
I
forgot
so
on
one
call.
You
said
that
you've
got
funded
from
pandola
right.
G
E
And
if
it
is
not
a
secret,
is
there
any
liquidity
on
pun
tokens?
So
do
you
have
opportunity
to
sell
them
and
you
know,
get
some
real
money
to
fund
your
project.
A
Yeah
well
olivia,
you
can
go
if
you
want
we're
totally
on
a
different
pocket.
So
oh
yeah,
so.
A
Pinball,
had
I've
never
been
funded
so
directly
other
than
like
donations
on
get
coin
in
pan
then
get
matched
by
more
pan
inflation
so
like,
and
then
you
know
for
the
first
three
donation
rounds
that
they
did.
There
was
no
value
for
the
token,
but
then
uniswap
came
up.
E
Yes,
so
I'm
asking
this
because
a
year
ago,
when
panvala
was
introduced
so
a
year
ago
I
was
I
had,
I
had
a
free
time
to
make
some
reviews.
So
I
made
a
review
of
physics
protocol
and
find
economic
vulnerability
and
also
I
made
a
review
of
panwalla
and
I
highly
criticized
them
because
there
was
no
liquidity
and
there
were
risks
that
you
will
get,
for
example,
one
thousand
dollars
and
take
out
five
hundred
dollars,
because
you
know
the
price
slippage
so,
but
it
really
works.
E
A
Mean
you
I
we
we
received.
I
think
it
was
like
five
somewhat
very
close
common
stack
received
five
thousand
dollars
from
pinball
about,
and
I
think
we
turned
it
into
four
thousand
die
so
definitely
major
slippage.
We
were
the
big
we
were
the
biggest
group
funded
though
as
well,
and
then
we
cashed
out-
and
what
I
should
have
done.
Honestly,
though,
is
done
an
otc
trade
to
myself
and
just
bought
the
bought
the
tokens
from
myself
instead
of
destroying
the
market.
E
I
regret
doing
that
honestly
yeah,
so
because
you
know
I'm
really
don't
like
value
transfer
tokens
at
all,
because
I
think
why
you
use
parabola
tokens
when
you
can
use
die
and
directly
fine,
so
the
funding
distribution
mechanism.
I
think
it
is
great,
but
you
know
like
selection
of
a
token,
with
no
real
value
and
value.
Only
from
demand
of
supporters
is
not
good.
E
A
It's
a
that's
the
that's
the
I.
I
think
that
there's
like,
I
think
it's
like
that's
the
most
critical
piece
is
that
you
have
supporters
that
have
value,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
the
only
piece
there
can
be
other
other
incentives
for
for
using
the
system
right.
There
can
be
other
demand,
use
cases
for
the
token,
and
so
what
pembala
did
to
generate
this
demand
use
case
was
they
said:
hey
if
you
donate
in
pan,
then
you
get,
then
the
people
receiving
the
donation
get
extra
pan.
A
E
A
E
A
Yeah,
well,
isn't
it
so
so
like?
What
I
would
say
is
that
the
pyramid
mechanic
is
present
for
every
financialized
like
if,
whether
it's
onions
or
pen
vola
tokens,
like
the
people
who
generate
the
who
farm
the
onions,
are
selling
it
to
the
next
sucker
who's,
the
distributor
that
then
sells
it
to
the
next
doctor,
who's
the
grocery
store.
Who
then
sells
it
to
the
next
sucker?
Who
is
the
the
person
who
eats
the
onion
right?
Like
yes,.
E
Constantly
but
but
but
from
the
current
point
of
view,
we
have
a
significant
difference
between
onions
and
pan
volatiles,
because
first
of
all,
onions
are
snack.
Thai
is
good,
so
it
is
like
you
know,
like
a
crude
oil,
so
it
is
a
good
with
real
value
with
already
established
market
and
the
market
is
really
huge,
but
so
I
think
well.
E
Coming
to
assets,
you
know
that
onions.
It
is
like
a
stable
corn
that
provide
you,
onions,
so
yeah,
but
you
guarantee
that
you
will
have
an
onion,
that's
true,
because
you
can
turn
it
onion
to
another
yeah
and
and
pan
tokens
you
don't
have
anything
behind
it.
So
so
onion
is
tied
to
real
good
at
real
value
and
fun.
Doesn't
it,
and
also
but
bitcoin,
has
a
big
big
market
with
a
lot
of
buyers,
with
a
lot
of
use
cases
and
with
real
economic
activity
and
funnel
and
not.