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A
A
So
today
I
want
to
talk
about
what
is
our
relationship
with
the
natural
cycles
of
life
like
like
birth
life
and
death
and
and
how
this
has
so
many
metaphors
and
applications
to
everything
we're
doing
in
life,
and
we
were
discussing
the
duration
of
roles
and
enough
responsibilities
and
of
occupying
certain
positions
and
how
sometimes
things
come
to
an
end,
and
sometimes
other
things
have
a
bright
beginning
and
then
sometimes
the
going
along
part
like
the
middle
is
super
nurturing
or
super
hard
to
carry.
A
So
how
yeah
just
a
reflection
of
how?
How
are
we
dealing
in
an
individual
level
with
with
this
cycles
and
especially
to
death,
that
I
feel
like
it's
harder
to
talk
about
somehow
taboo?
A
It's
usually
harder
to
end
cycles
than
to
begin
new
ones
and
now
pass
to
juan
to
start.
B
Thanks
levi
well,
I
was
thinking
in
this
question
and
I
would
say
that
life
as
I
see
it
is
a
gift.
B
So
it's
like
something
that
we
received
without
even
like
asking
for
it
and
like
we
should
enjoy
that
gift
because,
like
in
them
in
the
moment,
we
we
start
living.
We
also
start
our
journey
to
death.
So
I
I
I
have
this
phrase
that
I
learned
recently.
B
I
think
in
this
group
and
is-
and
it
says
like
like
life-
is
the
universe
experiencing
itself
from
from
your
own
point
of
view,
so
I
just
think
like
how
would
the
universe
like
would
like
would
would
like
to
be
seen
through
my
eyes
and
yeah?
B
I
I
try
that
that's
like
I
being
part
of
something
really
big
that
doesn't
end
just
with
with
myself,
but
it's
like
being
part
of
something
bigger
and
trying
to
look,
not
only
from
from
your
own
point
of
view,
but
trying
to
look
from
from
from
a
more.
C
Mateo
everyone
yeah,
that's
one
tip
question
again:
every
every
thursday
is
the
same
with
the
deep
questions
and
I
like
it,
but
I
will
try
to
be
very
short
in
this
one.
I
I
try.
I
encounter
myself
in
many
situations
in
life
in
my
short
age
that
have
told
me
that
have
taught
me
in
some
cases
that
things
tend
to
end,
but
the
fact
that
they
end
is
not
a
reason
to
not
enjoy
them
or
not
grab
the
best
of
that
stage
of
life
or
wherever.
C
So
I
believe
that,
like
in
physics,
if
you
want
to
put
science
to
it,
everything
tends
to
go
into
chaos.
But
what
can
you
do
to
to
get
some
benefits
for
that
chaos?
And,
and
for
me,
that's
lifelike.
C
There
is
a
beautiful,
a
mess
in
the
old
case
that
you
are
surrounded
by,
but
you
still
can
grab
some
beauty
out
of
it.
So
that's
eventually
what
what
I
try
to
define
data.
It's
the
ultimate
chaos
that
you
don't
know
the
known
complete
unknown,
but
the
the
journey
that
leads
to
it
is
the
beautiful
part
of
of
everything.
In
the
answer,
I
try
to
make
myself
like
an
agreement
to
to
say
that
life
is
even
more
important
than
death,
of
course,
but
that
should
be
like
always
have
it
in
mind.
C
I'm
not
sure
who
was
a
philosopher
that
said
that
philosophy
is
to
study
philosophy
is
to
learn
how
to
die.
I
think
it
was
one
thing,
but
I'm
not
sure.
So
don't
quote
me
on
that.
So
I
believe
that
that's
completely
true
and
I
try
to
to
leave
myself
daily
thinking
in
that
aspect,
so
yeah
I'll
pass
it
to
santi.
D
Thank
you
mateo.
Well,
that's
not
an
easy
question
to
answer.
I
think
the
only
thought
I
can
give
it
is
a
sentence
not
from
me
when
he
gave
the
speech
not
stand
for
it.
I
think
it
was
2007.
D
and
he's
I
I
I've
been
getting
older.
You
you
realize
how
fast
everything
goes,
especially.
You
start
realizing
that
the
groups
you
hang
around
with
are
younger
than
yourself.
You
are.
You
are
not
that
young
guy
that
you
used
to
be
and
life
goes
fast,
and
I
would
I
think
I
tend
to
think-
and
I've
always
acted
like
this,
but
the
older
I
get
the
more
I
try
to
do.
It
is
just
enjoy
and
do
whatever
you
want
to
do
forget
about
working
for
someone
else.
D
If
you
don't
enjoy
what
you're
doing
just
forget
about
everything,
just
risk
yourself
and
because
the
time
you're
living
today
is
not
going
to
be
here
tomorrow
and
and
it's
gone
it's
gone
forever
so
and
and
when
you're
younger
you
don't
realize
on
that
and
and
material
things,
don't
matter
at
all
it
doesn't.
I
don't
care
if
I
make
a
million
2
million
or
10
million
crypto.
E
D
D
I
don't
think
that
much,
but
I
I
can
tell
you
that
I
sleep
closer
because,
as
you
get
older,
you
get
to
see
your
friends
when
their
parents
passed
away,
and
you
start
to
realize
that
you
know
next
generation
is
yours
and
and
and
you
just
you
just
it's
a
natural
thing,
you
you
feel
it
closer
and
closer
and
closer.
It's
nothing
to
get
to
worry
too
much
about,
but
you
just
feel
it.
So
I
just
would
tell
everyone
to
just
try
to
enjoy
do
what
they
think
they
want
to
do.
D
If
that's
taking
a
sabbatical,
just
take
it.
If
that's
working
on
something
they've
always
wanted
to
work
and
just
try
it.
Sometimes
it's
not
easy,
but
if
you
don't
try
it
you're,
not
gonna
know
it.
So
that's
my
that's
my
way
of
thinking
and
and
I'm
taking
life
and
that's
what
it's
been
for
for
a
few
years,
I'll
pass
it
to
zetimos.
Here.
F
Thanks
auntie
wow,
very
tough
question
yeah
when
I
start
a
relation,
even
if
it's
with
a
quality
for
a
person
or
whatever,
like
my.
My
idea
is
like
like
during
that
cycle,
like
both
parts
are
better
than
we
initialize
like
yeah,
both
persons
grow
and
yeah.
That's
the
main
idea
and
related
to
death
yeah.
It's
kind
like
I
was
talking
with
my
my
like.
I
was,
for
example,
when
I'm
very
focused
doing
work
or
whatever,
and
my
sister
was
telling
me
but
yeah,
but
you're
gonna
die
someday
and
I
was
like.
F
I
don't
want
to
believe
in
that
because,
like
the
medicine
is
advancing,
actually
the
medicine
is
advancing
and
my
little
sister
is
studying
genetics
and
yeah,
who
help
who
knows
we're
gonna,
be
live
for
1,
000
years
or
not
yeah.
We
don't
know,
and
I
I
yeah
I've
been
reading
of
like
the
death
of
the
dead.
G
F
H
G
G
G
G
I'm
a
very
extreme
person,
it's
always
it's
always
all
or
nothing.
It's
kind
of
like
always
been
that
way.
G
My
first
near-death
experience
was,
I
was
six
years
old
on
a
horse
and
the
saddle
came
off
at
high
speeds
and
I
damn
near,
went
under
it
and
trampled
the
death
and
a
guy
came
out
of
nowhere
and
literally
picked
me
up
by
my
neck,
as
I
was
about
to
touch
the
ground
and
pick
me
up.
G
Pick
me
up
in
midair
and
put
me
on
the
back
of
his
saddle,
and
I
looked
back
and
saw
the
horse
just
trampled
to
bits,
and
it
was
like
this
crazy
moment
when
you're
only
like
six
years
old-
and
I
was
like,
as
I
was
going
to
the
ground
time
like
stopped,
and
everything
really
just
like
got
very
clear-
and
I
didn't
like
at
that
moment.
I
didn't
know
what
was
happening.
G
It
was
surreal
and
then,
when
I
was
like
a
lot
well,
so
there
was
quite
a
few
on
the
ranch.
Actually,
I
almost
died
quite
a
bit
and
then
and
then
my
adolescence
was
pretty
insane
like
I,
I
was
in
my
first
major
when
I
was
14
and
the
car
rolled
like
14
times,
and
but
we
had
our
seat
belts
on
we,
we
got
ran
off
the
road
and
went
over
an
overpass
and
like
went
down
the
ramp
into
like
a
gully.
It
was
pretty
insane,
but
everybody
lived.
G
I
I
had
another
handful
of
times
where
I
almost
died,
mainly
because
of
my
own
fault
and
it
just
it
creates
an
opposite
extreme,
though,
like
I
kind
of
like
death,
like
I
kind
of
like
cheating
death,
and
so
I
was
always
very
adventurous
because
when
you
know
you
start
experiencing
it
you're
kind
of
like
well,
what's
the
big
deal
like
this
is
kind
of
fun
and
then
at
the
same
time
it
gives
you
this
other
aspect
of
life
like
when
I
watched
my
mom
die.
G
It
was,
it
was
pretty
excruciating
and
then
you
you
tend
to
like
and
then
normally
see,
like
kevin
shot
himself
when
we
were
13,
and
that
was
a
trip,
and
I
just
I
just
developed
these
two
giant
extremes
for
for
loving
life
and
then
not
fearing
death,
and
it
created
a
weird
concept
in
the
middle.
G
So
I
had
to
find
a
balance
in
that
lust
and
love
for
life,
and
this
thrill
and
excitement
for
death-
and
I
didn't
have
it-
I
didn't-
have
a
balance
at
all.
It
was
one
or
the
other,
so
my
kids
really
gave
me
a
I
like.
It's
not
just
balance.
They
like
gave
me
an
umbrella
kind
of
like
they
were
like
dad
you
this.
If,
if
it's
gonna
work
and
it's
it
was,
it
was
really
good.
So
like
most
things,
I
don't,
I
don't
really
bat
an.
F
G
Honestly,
because
I
can
either
love
it
or
just
let
it
go
like
this
just
kind
of
life,
I
don't
know
if
that
really
answered
the
question,
but
that's
how
it
is
for
me.
My
kids
really
brought
me
the
balance,
because
I
couldn't
I
couldn't
just
be
this
wild
supernova.
Whenever
I
wanted,
I'm
gonna
pass
the
griff.
I
I
It's
a
it's
a
it's
not
an
easy
choice.
I
tend
to
be
like
jake,
but
I
don't
have
any
kids,
so
I
don't
have
to
pull
myself
back.
I
I
really
love
this
idea
of
simulation
theory
and
that
life
is
a
video
game
and
if
you
could
imagine
yourself
in
a
video
game,
you
know
and
like
you're,
surrounded
by
zombies
in
this
house.
You
know
like
like
in
real
life.
You
might
just
want
to
like
cower
under
a
table
and
just
like.
Oh
no,
but
in
a
video
game
you
grab
the
shotgun.
I
You
kick
down
the
door
and
you
start
popping.
You
know
because
it's
like
this
is
what
you're
there
for
this
is
life
is
presenting
you
an
opportunity.
You
know
these
aren't
problems
and
and
like
things
change
when
you
have
that
video
game
perspective,
I
I
don't
know
I
really.
I
really
like
to
embody
that,
but
I
think
jake
makes
a
really
good
point.
I
don't
have
kids,
so
I
think
that
might
you
know
there's
there's
not
like
so
much
to
at
risk
and
there's
not
people
who
depend
on
me.
I
So
it's
a
it's
kind
of
a
different
situation
but
yeah.
I
know
I
don't
know
it's
a
really
weird
thing
because,
like
I
feel
like
the
worst
things
that
happen
to
you
are
generally
the
best
things
that
happen
to
you,
except
for
when
someone
dies,
it's
like
the
one
exception
that,
like
oh
there's,
not
really
anything
great
about
that.
It's
just
the
cycle,
and
it's
like
this
opportunity
to
accept
life
is
what
it
is
and
then
you
know
elevate
above
it.
However,
you
want.
E
Well,
I
I
I
guess
you
could
say
I
I
take
like
a
little
bit
of
of
of
what
you
guys
have
said
like
I.
I
can
feel
related
to
that.
E
E
My
grandmother
hasn't
been
staying
at
her
house
because
it's
a
big
house,
my
my
my
grandfather
passed
like
six
years
ago
and
well
when
the
whole
pandemic
started
like
after
a
couple
of
months,
my
my
family
got
together
and
and
got
her
like
an
apartment
in
the
like
in
one
of
my
aunt's
backyard,
so
she's,
not
alone
and
stuff
like
this
and
and
then
she
started
like
with
this
idea
of
renting
out
her
rooms.
E
So
it's
it's!
It's
been.
It's
been
weird
just
like,
because
I
I
grew
up
in
in
in
this
house
and
her
next-door
neighbor
was
the
grandmother
of
one
of
my
best
friends.
E
While
I
was
growing
up
and
the
other
day,
she
just
brought
it
up
like
us
as
like,
so
so,
like
naturally
that
oh
yeah
and
and
since
my
friend
tere
like
passed
away,
and
I
was
like
what
like
like
she
passed
away
and
and
and
it
was
like
out
of
nowhere
like
for
me
and-
and
I
don't-
I
don't
know
why.
I
don't
know
why,
because
that
was
her
neighbor,
but
it
just
like.
E
I,
it
brought
in,
like
all
of
this,
like
yeah,
like
a
like
awareness
of
of
mortality,
but
you
know
in
in
just
like
in
a
in
a
in
a
very
like
a
synchronized
way,
with
what
I'm
living
in
my
personal
life
and
in
and
yeah
it's
just
like
it.
It
makes
you
like
question
it
and
and
yeah
it's
just
like
you,
you
take
all
of
these
things
for
for
granted,
sometimes
and
and
like
yeah.
E
You
just
like
you,
never
know
when,
like
the
the
next
day,
but
it
it
also
makes
you
not
look
outside,
but
also
inside
and
well.
E
I
I
I
personally
like
like
grew
up
catholic
and
and
being
mexican
christianity
in
general
is,
is
something
like
very
you
know
like
rooted
in
in
in
our
society,
and
a
thing
that
I
can
add
is
that
sometimes
like
I've
come
across
people
of
like
different,
like
religions
and
myself,
not
like
us,
a
a
a
practicing
like
catholic,
but
but
also
like.
E
I,
I
just
try
to
have
the
same
conversation
you
know
with
with
with
people
like,
regardless
of
of
their
faith
and
like
their
differences.
I
guess
there
are
like
certain,
like
approaches
to
every
topic
that
you
can
have
and
and
find
like
a
balance
with
with
everyone
and
like
regarding
death.
I
I
think
that
that
there's
no
there
that
there's
no
like
wrong.
E
You
could
say
you
can
never
go
wrong
if,
if,
if
you
talk
to
people
about
what
you
can
feel
and
if
we
have
this
awareness
of
of
us
being
like
in
matter
and
energy
in
a
way
well
yeah
I
mean
you
never
know
like
after
we
die
like
where,
where
we
go.
E
But
whenever
you
like
miss
people
you
can,
you
can
like
also
like
feel
their
energy
and
like
matter,
because
it's
it's
pretty
much
the
same,
just
like
going
back
and
forth
and
and
in
a
way,
I
think
that,
like
different,
like
religions
or
faith,
could
get
the
same,
get
to
the
same
conclusion
so
sometimes
in
in
in
in
moments
of
like
death
and
and
things
like
this
people
don't
have
much
left,
but
things
that
they
can
share
with
other
people
so
yeah.
E
I
guess
there's
not
a
lot
that
I
could
say
about
that,
but
I
I
guess
that
that
I
could
add
that
it's
it's
important
to
share
when
someone
goes
through
an
experience
like
that
and
sharing
these
ideas
and
impressions
of
death.
I
think
it's
a
yeah.
It
should
be
more
normalized
in
a
way
yeah.
E
I'll
pass
it
to
oh
sorry,
leave
it.
E
I'll
pass
it
to
dergados,
I
don't
know
if
you
won
already.
J
I'll
just
say
that
I've
already
had
an
experience
of
my
life
outside
of
this
individual
life,
so
the
meaning
of
cyclical
things,
it's
meaning
to
me
personally,
but
it
just
feels
to
me,
like
my
pre-birth
experience,
says
that.
J
J
Why
do
I
have
to
have
these
awful
parents
and
live
in
this
awful
time
with
all
this
weird
cyclical
stuff
happening,
and
I
just
you
know
so
for
me,
I
have
a
very
different
perspective
on
death.
I
have
no
fear
or
death
at
all
because
I
don't
identify
as
an
individual
person
so,
and
that
was
all
kind
of
taught
to
me
in
that
one
pre-birth
experience.
J
So
you
know,
and-
and
and
you
know
I
mean-
life
and
death
are
one
even
as
a
river
and
the
sea
are
one
you
know
for
what
it
and
it's
interesting.
J
My
favorite
thing
about
the
favorite
area
of
the
of
this
book
called
the
prophet,
is
like
for
what
is
it
to
die
but
to
stand
naked
in
the
wind
and
to
melt
into
the
sun
and
for
what
is
it
to
cease
breathing,
but
to
free
the
breath
from
its
restless
ties
that
it
may
rise
and
expand
and
see
god
unencumbered,
and
this
is
the
thing
which
you
know
is
basically
the
mission
of
my
life
and
is
in
many
ways
the
underlying
motivation
that
I
have
about
everything
that
I
do
with
in
every
situation.
J
K
I
really
like
what
everyone's
saying
my
day
is
so
fast
and
then,
as
soon
as
we
hit
soft
gov,
it's
like
I
have
to
stop
and
slow
down
and
really
think
and
every
week
it's
the
same
thing
and
I'm
enjoying
like
luxuriating
in
the
slowness
of
this
this
hour.
K
I
think
I'd
like
to
talk
about
it
as
death
as
a
cycle
where
death
is
just
the
ending
and
things
end
and
we
have
endings
so
that
we
can
have
beginnings
and
right,
there's
endings
to
the
corporal
real
or
physical
death.
You
know
the
person,
that's
what's
once
there
and
isn't
there
anymore,
and
I
think
these
are
the
most
difficult
things
to
let
go
of.
K
I've
recently
had
a
close
family
member
od,
very
young,
and
it's
the
kind
of
thing
where
you
just
can't.
You
know
like
that.
Letting
go
process
can
be
so
simple
for
many
things,
but
for
the
senselessness
of
a
physical
death
to
something
so
avoidable,
it's
hard
to
let
go
off,
but
letting
go
of
things
is
how
we
create
space
for
new
things
to
take
place.
So
you
know,
physical
deaths
are
very
hard
ideological
endings.
K
You
know
changing
something
and
you're
thinking
so
dramatically
that
it
alters
the
direction
of
your
life
forever
like
a
hard
pivot
in
a
different
direction
or
relationships,
ending
personal
professional
relationships,
and
I
think
the
ending
is
letting
like
letting
go
of
your
your
ties
to
whatever,
whatever
that
is,
and
letting
new
spaces
emerge
for
new
thoughts
and
new
relationships,
and
it's
these
experiences
that
really
make
our
lives
rich.
I
think
I'm
gonna
stop
there.
K
I'd
like
to
welcome
katie
to
her
first
soft
gov
meeting
and
if
she's
comfortable
speaking
I'll
pass
to
katie.
H
Thank
you
and
katie,
also
on
here,
suga
comes
from
my
last
name
masuga,
so
you
can
call
me
suga
katie.
Thank
you
tam!
Thank
you.
Everyone
yeah!
These
have
been
amazing
to
hear
what
everyone's
saying
about
about
this
and
I've
noticed
some
links,
some
similarities
in
some
of
them,
even
so
what
dergados
and
and
griff-
and
I
guess
you
say-
freedom
double
zero.
H
I
didn't
get
that
quite
get
how
I
say
that,
but
griff
what
you
were
saying
about
the
video
game
resonated
because
it
made
me
think
of
being
in
a
dream
like
same
thing,
lucid
dreaming
where
you
just
and
also
what
the
goddess
was
saying,
where
it's
like
you're,
playing
a
role
that
life
is
playing
a
role
really,
and
so
you
can
have.
H
If
you
have
that
detachment
from
it,
you
are
able
to
seize
it
in
a
more
free
manner,
right
in
a
more
perhaps
ambitious,
exciting
manner
and
somehow
there's
some
similarities
with
that.
When
you
have
those
near-death
experiences
or
something
tragic
happens
to
you
and
your
you,
you
can
detach
yourself
in
order
to
see
it
from
one
of
those
outside
perspectives
and
for
myself
it's
it's
funny,
because
I
am
a
parent,
but
I
am
also
one
of
those
people
who's
a
bit
of
a
who's.
H
It
who's,
detached
or
who's
able
to
take
the
video
game
view
of
life,
and
that's
been
interesting
as
a
parent
to
continue
that,
and
I
think
it
makes
me
more
ambitious
and
creative,
and
so
sometimes
I
do
have
to
say,
oh
as
a
parent,
am
I
being
too
wild
when
I
check
myself
with
the
communities
around
me
and
I'm
so
different,
so
vastly
I
operate
differently
from
them,
and
I
have
to
remind
myself
well
no,
this
is
this.
Is
this?
Is
my
path
right
to
do
it
in
this
manner?
H
That
I
actually
think
is
more
freeing.
It
may
also
be
more
difficult,
but
somehow
it's
more
rewarding
and
just
one
other
thing,
I'd
like
to
add,
is
when
I
had
something
very
difficult
happened
to
me.
Maybe
15
years
ago,
one
of
the
mantras
I
adopted
at
that
time
was
taking
turns
living.
I
called
it
taking
turns
living,
and
that
means
that
this
is
our
turn
to
be
alive.
H
What
we
consider
being
in
this
in
these
life
forms
it's
our
turn
and
there
have
been
millennia
of
other
folks
having
had
their
turn
to
live,
and
there
will
be
folks
after
us
who
have
their
turn
to
live.
So
we
take
turns
living,
it's
our
turn
and
we
do
with
it
what
we
will
and
yet
it's
all
connected
we're
all
connected
right.
This
is
one
long
sort
of
trajectory
or
melange
of
lives.
Taking
turns
living.
It's
something
I
call
transcendent
correspondence,
so
we
can.
H
We
can
be
connected
to
our
pa
to
past,
to
futures,
to
lives
behind
us
and
lives
in
front
of
us.
There's
a
wonderful
if
you're
familiar
with
the
american
poet
walt
whitman
in
leaves
of
grass,
where
he
says
something
like
men
and
women
of
a
hundred
years.
Hence
I
am
with
you
and
know
how
it
is.
I
am
with
you
and
know
how
it
is
so.
Our
human
experience,
the
idea
for
me
to
think
that
walt
whitman
was
thinking
of
me
150
years
ago.
H
This
is
transcendent
correspondence
and,
to
me,
that's
very
reassuring
and
and
warming
and
and
exciting,
so
I'll
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I'm
not
sure
who
who
I
who
didn't
go
so,
if
I
don't
know,
I
guess,
do
I
pass
it
back
to
griff.
A
H
A
A
Yeah
you're
so
welcome.
Thank
you
so
much
for
sharing
I'll
pass
it
to
nate.
I
think
you're,
the
last
one.
L
Yeah,
what
a
question-
and
I
I
do
like
that
phrase
taking
turns
living-
that's
really
awesome,
I
you
know,
if,
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know
like
my
approach
to
life
and
death
came
from
kind
of
my
profession,
which
is
in
geophysics
and
geology
is
first
time
I
understood
the
magnitude
of
geologic
time
scales
and
just
kind
of
understanding
that
you
know
we
all
have.
L
You
know
we're
granted
this
little
moment
within
the
history
of
existence,
to
do
something
with
it
and
what
what
we
do
decide
to
do
and
it
it
guides.
L
My
relationship
and
almost
everything
I
do,
and
so
I
choose
to
you,
know,
have
altruism
and
empathy
as
my
my
calling
cards,
as
this
type
of
you
know,
laying
the
foundations
for
the
people
who
are
going
to
next
have
their
turn
in
this
life,
and
so
just
kind
of
setting
the
foundations
and
knowing
that
everything
that
we
do
does
establish
those
foundations
and
does
change
the
trajectory
of
our
species
on
this
planet
and
the
planet
itself.
L
And
so
I
think
that
understanding
the
magnitude
of
geologic
time
really
had
an
impact
on
me
and
like
like
many
of
you,
we've
all
had
our
you
know
our
witness
death
in
many
many
different
forms
in
different
ways,
and
it's
never
a
great
thing,
but
even
their
deaths
have
an
impact
in
the
way
we
approach
our
lives
and
approach
each
other,
and
so
I
think
that's
really
fascinating
and
I'll.
Keep
it
brief
and
pass
it
on
to
you.
L
A
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
everyone.
I'm!
A
It's
really
beautiful
to
hear
all
this
all
these
reflections
and-
and
I
always
like
to
to
bring
perspective
from
one
thing
to
another
and
create
those
correlations
like
sugar
was
saying
and
making
the
connections
between
things
and-
and
I
think
it's
really.
A
First
of
all,
it's
like
really
special
that
we
have
space
to
talk
about
these
things
and
that
we
always
make
sure
to
open
space
and
to
make
everyone
feel
comfortable
because
we're
coming
from,
I
mean
we
are
all
here,
we're
all
gonna
die.
We
share
this
and
why
not
talking
about
this?
A
There
was
one
book
that
really
changed
my
life
when
I
was
15,
that
was
the
the
book
of
the
tibetan
book
of
living
and
dying,
and
it
talks
so
much
about
how
people
when
they
are
near
death
or
when
situations
are
near
death.
People
feel
so
much
like
talking
about
it,
because
it's
so
unknown,
it's
like
wow.
A
What
is
there
the
other
side
or
what
happens
or
what
it's
like
the
biggest
question
and
and
the
more
we
avoid
talking
about
this,
the
more
you
create
anxiety
and
not
feeling
like
you,
belong
and
not
feeling
in
your
body
and
there's
so
much
comfort
and
understanding
of
life
and
one
another
that
can
come
just
by
talking
about
that
and
and
then
now
bringing
grounded
place.
A
So
we
have
a
few
roles
that
are
somehow
solidified
that
are
the
the
community
stewards,
the
contributors,
the
subject
matter,
experts
and
the
gravitons.
A
So
one
thing
it
started
to
come
up
when
I
was
talking
to
tam
and
griff,
and
we
have
these
reflections
with
ata
about
the
community
about
what
has
been
going
well,
what
we
can
improve
and
one
of
the
the
questions
with
the
off-boarding
of
stewards,
for
example,
it's
this
sensitive
place
of
like
how
how
come
when
someone
no
longer
energizes
a
role?
A
Why
is
it
so
sentimental
to
talk
about
this
death
to
talk
about
the
the
funeral
of
a
role
and
to
accept
this
as
a
passage
to
other
things
that
are
about
to
come
into
the
place
where
you're
gonna
put
your
energy
in
and
make
other
things
alive?
So
this
is
mostly
an
open
conversation
for
us
to
start
thinking
about
this
and.
A
And
in
in
perhaps
creating
rituals,
you
know
like
understanding
like.
Oh,
if
this
is
difficult
to
deal
with,
how
can
we
create
a
ritual
for
that?
When
does
that
end?
So
we
thought
of
every
steward
will
be
like
for
the
lifelong
of
the
token
engineering
commons
known
for
their
contributions,
and
we
can
even
have
like
a
little
like
ancestor
lineage
of
some
sort.
A
I
don't
know
we
can
have
many
ideas
about
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
provide
like
a
common
understanding
of
what
is
each
one
of
those
roles
and
open
for
debate.
A
If
someone
doesn't
think,
that's
like
that
or
if
that's
a
block
or-
and
I'm
aware
that
we
used
most
of
this
call
to
talk
about
this,
but
I
think
it's
it's
important,
so
the
steward's
role,
gif
grief
had
a
very
brief
and
powerful
definition.
That
is
the
people
and
the
know.
A
So
that's
the
definition
of
a
steward
and
then
and
then
coming
out
of
the
steward
role
would
be
like.
Oh
I'm
not
in
the
know
anymore.
So
so
maybe
I
shouldn't
hold
this
this
role
or
continue
to
try
energizing
this,
and
this
is
a
self-reflection
for
for
everyone,
and
then
the
other
role
is
contributors.
Is
I'm
joining
this
community?
I
want
to
contribute.
I
have
a
specific
time
in
skills
and
I
want
to
do.
A
I
want
to
have
focused
commitments
and
then
subject
matter
experts
that
are
a
people
that
have
like
a
very
specific
expertise
that
without
them
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
something.
So,
for
example,
in
the
legal
group
we
needed
subject
matter
experts,
the
big
subject
matter.
Experts
of
the
tc
are
the
token
engineers
they
will
always
be
look.
They
are
always
gonna,
be
the
people
that
will
offer
advice
for
token
engineering
decisions
and
strategies
and
and
they
they
hold
this
role
and
then
gravitons
that
are
the
conflict.
L
So
just
to
clarify
are
you
proposing
that
there
are
three
different
types
of
roles:
the
the
subject
matter:
experts,
the
stewards
and
the
contributors.
A
Yeah
four
and
the
gravitons
I
mean
that
has
been
kind
of
the
structure
we've
been
following.
L
A
L
I
I
I
feel
like
there's
also
a
fourth
category
or
fifth,
category
of
working
group
leads
in
this,
like
you
have
to
be
a
steward
to
be
a
working
group
lead,
but
not
all
stewards
are
leading
working
groups
and
that's
okay,
you
know
like,
but
like
working
group
leads,
have
like
certain
responsibilities
and
or
need
to,
like
you
know,
connect
with
each
other
once
in
a
while
to
make
sure
that
the
flock
that,
like
everything,
that
everything's
harmonizing
nicely
and
they
have
even
though
they're
part
of
the
a
subset
completely
within
the
stewards
group,
I
feel
like
it
isn't
another
piece.
K
Yeah,
I
I
guess
I'd
like
to
add
to
that
too,
as
we
are
growing
and
we
have
a
lot
of
stewards,
we're
finding
that
there's
a
need
for
coordination
between
working
group
leads
in
like
sprint
planning
and
doing
these
things
that,
maybe
not
all
stewards
have
to
participate
to
so
trying
to
find
the
distinction
between
you
know.
K
The
the
roles
and
responsibilities
for
in
particular
working
group
leads,
as
opposed
to
like
all
the
stewards,
so
they
can
be
clearly
defined
and
we
could
have
clearly
defined
boundaries
and
they
think
in
the
conversations
you
know
around
like
how
to
how
to
like
what
is
the
path
of
a
contributor.
I
also
think
comes
into
play.
K
You
know
from
being
a
contributor
to
somebody
like
that's
super
active
and
like
be
painful
to
to
to
have
leave
the
the
community
and
then
to
being
a
steward
in
the
community,
and
then
maybe
eventually
also
a
working
group
lead
or
to
go
from
a
working
group
lead
to
being
a
steward
to
being
active.
You
know
somewhere
else
in
some
other
capacity,
so
yeah.
I
really
like
that.
K
This
is
starting
to
take
a
lot
more
shape
and
I
think
we're
gonna
continue
to
grow,
and
I
think
that
there's
a
possibility
that
we
have
a
lot
of
people
in
the
know.
We
have
actually
have
a
lot
of
stewards
because
there's
so
many
people
in
our
community
that
are
really
passionate
about
being
active
and
yeah,
so
somehow
being
able
to
make
sure
we
can
scale
the
the
coordination
as
well
as
the
group.
L
Yeah,
I
think
this
is
something
that's
been
on
my
mind
for
a
while
now,
because
I
I
do
like
having
the
roles
aspect
of
it,
but
and
as
we
get
larger
and
more
people
start
to
participate.
L
I
I
like
to
think
of
roles
as
kind
of
just
individuals
with
unique
abilities
within
the
tec,
whether
it's
you
know
a
particular
function,
whether
it's
your
graviton
or
maybe
you're
in
the
comms
and
you're.
Just
an
you
know.
You
focus
on
editing
like
if
you're
an
editor
that
could
be
a
kind
of
a
sub
ability
that
you
have
as
a
contributor
and
ways
to
categorize
the
the
functions
that
we
have
within
our
working
groups.
L
Instead
of
having
you
know,
one
person
who's
constantly,
you
know
being
overwhelmed
or
overburdened
by
something
that
you
have
a
group
of
people
with
a
special
capabilities
that
that
are
able
to
go
into
whatever
tasks
that
may
be
needed
and
say
hey.
I
can
do
this.
I
have
the
time
to
do
this,
and
so
just
trying
to
figure
out
a
system
for
that.
A
Yeah,
I
think,
the
more
we
talk
about
these
things
and
add
a
self
reflection
of
what
role
do
you
think
you
occupy
and
then
having
open
communication
about
this
with
the
people
that
are
around
you
and
that
you
think
that
also
occupied
certain
roles
and
then
start
talking
more
openly
about
this
and
and
the
same
for
oh,
I
feel
like
I'm
no
longer
occupying
this
role
and
and
also
having
open
communication
and,
and
then
from
this
having
the
coordination
happens
like,
like
tim,
said
it's
quite
challenging,
and
and
maybe
we
we
need
to
start
thinking
about
separating
certain
groups
like
like.
A
If
we
divide
the
community
stewards
between
working
group
leads
and
stewards
that
are
not
leading
working
groups.
Perhaps
we
can
have
two
separate
calls
to
separate
groups
that
we
give
more
time
and
space
for
people
to
express
what
they're
observing
from
the
community
what
they're
doing
what
they
can
add
and
then
having
other
moments
to
have
this
link
between
them.
I
mean
we'll
get
we'll
have
to
start
experimenting
as
we
grow.
K
Yeah,
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
notice
in
our
you
know
in
our
weekly
sink.
The
community
stewards
weekly
sink
is
that
we
want
to
give
time
to
do
the
temperature
temperature
check,
and
you
know
how
the
beginning
of
this
call
is
always
so
intimate,
because
we
have
this
intro
question
that
so
so
there's
something
compelling
about
having
the
stewards
meeting
have
that
tone
and
the
working
group
leads
having
that
like.
Okay,
now,
let's
execute
like
what
is
our?
What
is
our
zen
hub?
What
does
our
sprint
look
like?
K
What
are
we
tracking
against
the
sprint?
Do
we
have
any
blockers?
Let's
do
a
review,
so
there
might
actually
add
a
much
more
like
an
what
is
the
word,
I'm
looking
for,
like
additional
cohesion
between
the
stewards
because
of
the
closeness
that
we
develop
through
having
a
different
tone
in
our
meeting
and
a
different
purpose
of
the
meeting
than
executing
against
our
our
sprint
plans
and
our
sprint
boards?
K
J
Can
you
hear
me
okay,
so
some
of
you,
I
might
have
shown
that
I'm
working
on
this
thing
called
virtuous
cycles
and
tam
I'd
be
really
interested
to
hear
what
your
perspective
on
this
would
be.
I
could
send
you
the
material
that
I
have
so
far,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
noticed
about
when
I
was
writing
up
this
virtuous
cycle
stuff
was
that
that
there
was
three
sort
of
basic
structures
in
the
in
the
daily
work
and
one
of
one
of
those
structures
was.
J
J
A
With
pleasure,
so
we
have,
we
have
just
a
few
minutes
before
the
top
of
the
hour.
I
want
to
leave
three
minutes
to
talk
about
the
mission,
vision
and
values
and
have
a
10
second
round
to
challenge
10
seconds
to
say
what
role
do
you
think
you
occupy
now
and
what
role
would
you
like?
Are
you
satisfied
with
the
role
you're
occupying?
A
A
I
think
I'm
a
contributor
of
other
working
groups,
sometimes
so
jumping
into
that
role
in
and
out
and
and
I'm
potentially
a
graviton,
but
I
haven't
involved
myself
fully
in
the
process.
Yet
that
is
starting
and
I'll
pass
two.
I
I
think
you
muted
early
but
I'll,
take
it
cause.
I
don't
know
because
I
want
to
say
something
I
think
it's
like
a
really
weird
venn
diagram,
where
everybody's
a
contributor
and
then
within
that
there's
like
subject
matter
experts
with
a
venn
diagram,
that's
with
like
contr
with
well
maybe
the
subject
matter.
Experts
is
a
is
a
venn
diagram
with
contributors
and
then
within
that,
there's
there's
like
at
that
interface.
There's
like
community
stewards
and
gravitons
and
and
within
the
community
stewards
group.
I
C
B
I
K
I
think
I
contribute
in
a
lot
of
places
as
well.
I
mean
anywhere.
I
can
help.
I
do.
I
could
eke
out
another
30
minutes
out
of
my
day
to
continue
to
help,
I
would
I'd
say
so,
primarily
in
the
tc,
the
community
steward
as
well.
K
You
know:
coordination
between
all
of
the
working
groups
so
that
we
can
reach
our
goals
together
so
that
we
should
we
share
interdependencies
and
we
can,
as
a
team,
remove
blockers
that
are
blocking
one
group
or
multiple
groups,
and
then
you
know,
and
as
as
that
role.
I
also
think
you
know,
I
think
a
lot
about
how,
especially
lately
we've
been
onboarding
people
or
maybe
how
it's
been
very
organic,
and
it's
worked
to
now,
but
there's
ways
that
we
can
improve
it.
So
I
would
say
you
know
my
experience.
K
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
as
a
consultant,
so
I'm
used
to
just
going
into
I'm
used
to
providing,
I
would
say,
like
guidance
and
processes
for
organizations
to
optimize
their
workflows,
so
I'd
say
and
that
perspective
like
under
soft
gov,
like
my
role,
would
be
like
helping
onboarding
and
bringing
katie
in
to
sort
of
be
the
onboarding
coordinator
to
help
strengthen
those
processes
as
well
and
under
the
hatcher
hatcher
outreach
team.
K
I
would
say
it's
leading
the
hatch
team
right
now
and
making
sure
that
we're
consistently
on
boarding
new
hackers,
because
we
can't
have
a
hatch
without
hatchers,
so
very
active
and
you
know
putting
together
I'm
I'm
over
time.
I'm
going
to
pass
to
somebody
else.
A
A
Now,
I'm
just
going
to
say
that
let's
try
to
just
name
the
roles
and
and
if
we
feel
the
necessity
of
moving
between
one
role
or
another
that
we're
not
yet
or
that
we
are
and
we
we
didn't
want
to
be
so
matteo
thanks,
yeah.
C
D
G
Well,
I
honestly
hate
the
term
people
like,
like
hey
son.
What
are
you
up
to
these
days?
Well,
dad
I
heard
cats.
Oh
you
sure
you
don't
want
to
go
back
to
drilling
oil
wells.
No,
I
like
herding
cats
and
then
my
sister's,
like
what
do
you
do?
I
was
like
I
heard
cats
and
she's
like.
Oh,
so
are
you
like
joe
exotic,
and
that
was
her
joke
and
I
was
like
yeah,
I'm
a
gay
redneck.
Thank
you.
I'm
hurting
captain
oklahoma
sounds
fantastic,
no,
but
yeah
steward
of
tech
params.
G
I
don't
know
I
kind
of
do
other
things
too,
but
I'm
really
not
oh,
comes
onboarding.
I
got
out
a
lot
of
that.
I
do
a
little
bit
though,
but
crams
is
pretty
much.
My
little
home
somebody's
got
to
hurt
these
cats.
G
I
will
say
that
I
will
never
financially
read.
I
did
it.
I
got
it
out
there
anyways,
that's
a
meme
from
joe
exotic,
all
right,
I'm
sorry
olivia!
I
yeah
my
role.
I
I'm
the
params
guy.
That's
what
I
do.
G
Okay,
I'll
give
pass
it
back
to
chewie.
E
Thank
you,
jake.
Well,
as
as
many
of
you
already
know,
I'm
I'm
trying
to
get
a
hold
of
of
what
goes
on
in
in
comms.
E
However,
I'm
I'm
as
as
you
were
saying
tom,
I
I
I'm
just
having
a
hard
time
like
trying
to
be
be
like
selective
of
where
I
put
my
energy,
because
everything
is
so
so
exciting
and
I'd
like
to
get
involved
more
in
gravity.
I
think
it
offers
for
me
a
lot
of
skills
that
I
personally
think
I'm
I'm
missing
and
I
could
work
on
and
especially
because
as
being
in
comms
and
having
a
general
levy
of
of
of
what
goes
on
in
in
everything.
E
E
I
can
say
I'm
lucky
enough
to
know
a
lot
of
like
talented
people
in
good
and
what
they
are
so
I'll,
try
to
reach
out
to
them
and-
and
you
know,
try
to
get
try
to
output
some
of
that
energy
like
knowing
that
eventually,
everyone
here
knows
how
to
like
land
in
in
whatever
they're
good
and
what
they
can
contribute.
So
yeah
I'll
pass
it
to
suga.
H
Thank
you,
okay,
so
yeah
I'll
be
quick,
I'm
I'm
a
newbie
and
I'm
onboarding
coordinator
new,
very
new
role,
and
I
I
do
anticipate
and
hope
to
have
numerous
roles
like
all
of
you
in
the
in
the
future,
and
now
I
will
pass
it
on.
I
don't
know
how
you
all
keep
track
of
who
is
spoken
or
not.
I
need
some
kind
of
tool
for
that,
so
we
have.
A
A
Thanks
we're
on
the
top
of
the
hour.
So
if
anyone
needs
to
leave,
feel
free
and
thanks
for
coming
and
I'll
pass
for
his
abdomen.
F
Thanks,
I'm
actually
an
stuart,
but
I
feel
like
I
have
a
role
like
I'm
like
pretty
supporting
like
like,
since
I'm
doing
all
the
recordings,
I'm
watching
all
the
boards
and
when
I
see
some
easy
issues
I
can
help
like
yeah
I'm
on
it.
I
I
think
I'm
going
to.
I
actually
contributed
to
all
the
working
groups,
maybe
not.
L
L
Yeah,
I
think
I'm
the
newest
steward,
I'm
kind
of
a
generalist,
a
contributor
to
both
soft
gov
and
comms,
but
yeah.
I
kind
of
just
dabble
in
each
working
group,
ranging
from
transparency
to
omega
so
yeah,
and
I
will
pass
it
to
durga
dots.
A
Okay,
thanks
thanks
everyone
one
one
quick
note
is:
please
go
to
token
log:
it's
in
the
it's
in
the
agenda.
You
can
find
the
link
here
I'll
make
it
bigger
vision,
mission,
values,
hack
session.
That
was
one
of
the
objectives
for
this
agenda,
but
we
didn't
get
there.
So
please
read
the
post.
If
you
haven't
yet
and
make
a
proposal,
it's
super
quick.
A
What
do
you
want
for
the
mission,
the
values
and
the
vision
of
the
tc?
This
is
an
amazing
moment.
Yeah
griff
go
ahead.
I
And
if
you
want
any
inspiration,
dargam
just
published
a
blog
post
on
the
tec,
blog
ethics
and
engineering,
and
it
might
inspire
you
to
think
about
the
tease.
I
also
put.