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A
Yeah
I
wanted
us
to.
I
wanted
us
to
start
with
a
round
of
sharing.
A
I
I
would
love
to
understand
a
little
bit,
what
is
happening
being
absent
for
almost
weeks
with
all
the
conferences
and
in
real
life
meetings
and
stuff,
and
also
share
a
little
bit
about
some
things
I
reflected
on
in
conferences
and
talking
to
people
and
yeah.
So
maybe
we
could
have
like
a
10
minute
of
reflection
and
then
I'll
pass
through
and
kojak
to
do
the
swot
analysis,
and
after
that
also
I
was
looking
at
some
old
boards
we
had
in
tc
and
if
we
have
time
I
would
love
to
have
a
look
at
that.
A
A
I
think
still,
the
tc
has
been
seen
as
like
a
reference
of
culture
and
in
soft
governance,
and
it
was
cool
to
have
that
feedback,
but
also
understanding
that
the
funding
player
is
still
a
vulnerability
in
terms
of
compensation
for
the
people
who
are
participating,
and
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
harshest
feedbacks
and
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
guys
too,
like
for
us
to.
A
A
How
this
like
overestimation
of
voluntary
work
is
something
harmful
culturally
and
how
can
we
like
more
or
less,
for
people
to
have
agency
but
at
the
same
time
not
leave
contributors
in
this
like
realm
of
like
how
privileged
do
you
need
to
be
to
participate
in
a
doubt
right
now
and
just
to
put
points
of
reflection
like
that
and
then
just
thinking,
I
think
more
and
more
people
have
been
taught
in
a
more
perspective,
and
how
can
we
talk
about
the
value
systems
of
the
new
systems,
we're
building
and
how
to
provide
some
type
of
sustainability
for
them
and
connect
different
value
flows
that
are
not
only
financial
to
be
able
to
become
compensation?
A
So
that's
something
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about.
How
could
we
shift
the
way
we
think
of
value
not
only
from
an
ethical
perspective
or
from
a
financial
perspective?
We
bring
more
to
the
compensation
layer.
So
if
someone
is
abundant
in
education
but
is
lacking
finances,
then
maybe
this
person
could
offer
education
and
receive
finances.
A
But
maybe
if
someone
is
abundant
socially
and
needs
education,
they
raise
abundant
financially.
And
you
know
what
are
the
types
of
value
streams
that
we
could
map
and
be
able
to
measure
them
somehow,
so
we
could
create
more
like
of
this
exchange
of
value
flows
in
a
way,
that's
more
explicit
that
it
doesn't
feel
like
if
you're
not
being
financially
compensated,
that
you're
being
extracted
or
that
there
is
a
toxic
dynamic
present
in
there.
A
So
I
don't
know
just
a
lot
of
thoughts
floating
around
and
I
would
love
to
hear
what
you
guys
have
thinking
and
I'll
pass
to
there
to
kick
us
off.
B
Well,
I
think
it's
been
an
interesting
timing
with
all
these
conferences
and
everything
here
in
the
tc,
because
I
felt
things
have
gotten
more
quiet
like
and
slower.
Maybe
at
some
point
like
there's
been
less
codes
and
less
people
attending
the
calls,
but
like
I
I
will
I
I
feel
that
it
has
provided
like
a
chance
or
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
like
take
a
break
and
like
rethink
stuff.
B
So
I
think
I
think
it's
been
a
positive,
positive
aspect
because
it
has
allowed,
I
think,
better
coordination,
more
direct
coordination
and
efforts
across
the
working
groups
and
across
the
contributors
that
are
that
have
been
active.
So
I
think
that's
been
that's
been
good
because
it
has
allowed
also
to
made
us
realize
that
there's
work
to
do
in
different
fronts,
but
at
the
same
time
we
have
to
prioritize
where
to
begin
right.
So
personally,
that's
something
that
I've
been
I've
been
trying
to.
Do.
B
I
mean
I,
I
see
a
lot
of
things
where
things
could
be
improved
and
stuff,
but
you
know
I
can.
I
cannot
do
everything
at
once.
You
know,
and
I
think
it's
it's
more
of
a
process
and
and
this
process
goes
along
with
people
right
and
and
those
those
incentives
of
where
you
want
to
go.
They
need
to
be
aligned
with
people
so
so
yeah
I've
just
like
been
trying
to
to
personally
prioritize
where
I
got.
B
I
want
to
put
my
attention
and
my
focus
and
and
right
now
it's
it's
completely
on
sample.
I
think
all
the
initiatives
there
are
are
crucial
for
for
the
tc,
the
sustainability
and,
and
also
this
part
of
the
swot
analysis.
I
think
it's
key
as
well.
I
think
it
will
give
us
a
lot
of
insights
about
the
overall
health
of
the
tec
and
different
things
we
need
to
tackle
and
maybe
work
from
there
into
some
other
initiatives
that
are
also
around.
B
C
Yeah
so
yeah,
I
I
in
terms
of
compensation,
you
know
it's
an
interesting
question
for
me
because
I
think
all
the
money
that
I've
made
from
this
is
doing
the
gravity
dial
website
like
yeah.
I've
got
tokens
and
whatnot,
but
you
know
those
are
locked
up
for
a
long
time
and
so,
like
I've
literally
just
been
here,
participating
just
because
trying
to
you
know
look
at
the
cultural.
C
Build
is
a
important
thing,
and
I'm
also
you
know
just
aware
that
yeah,
I
think,
there's
some
some,
maybe
different
values
that
the
tec
has
than
you
know
than
necessarily
my
my
own.
In.
D
E
C
You
know,
but
nonetheless,
you
know
in
terms
of
compensation,
I've
never
really
kind
of
expected
that,
and
I've
heard
that
other
people,
you
know,
have
made
money
in
this
space.
But
just
you
know,
that's
I'm
a
bit
clueless
in
terms
of
that
so
yeah
I
mean
I
I
don't
know
I
I
I
do
feel
you
know
in
some
way,
like
you
know,
hey
I'm
over
here.
You
know,
I
think,
we're
close
to
two
years
now,
a
year
and
nine
or
ten
months.
C
At
this
point
of
my
participation
and
apart
from
tokens,
you
know
which
is
basically
a
promise.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
in
a
bear
market.
What
are
you
gonna?
What
kind
of
promise
is
that
you
know
so
a
lot
of
what
we're
experiencing
in
terms
of
compensation?
I
think
you
know
the
promise
seems
a
lot
greater
when
you're,
when
you're
in
a
bull
market
like
we
were
for
a
really
long
time.
You
know,
and
everyone
feels
positive
and
and
that's
going
to
drive.
C
Some
of
you
know
what
we're
dealing
with
in
terms
of
you
know:
people
wanting
that
compensation
and
dropping
out
as
a
result
of
not
getting
it.
You
know
I've
scaled
back,
my
participation
somewhat
too
so
yeah
I
mean
and-
and
also
I
think
you
know
I
like
things
like
sampo,
because
you
know
we
do
have
to
consider
what
is
it
like
to
actually
build
a
thing
in
a
bear
market,
which
is,
I
think,
a
thing
that
we
all
kind
of
didn't.
Think
about
all
that.
Well,.
A
C
The
beginning,
so
it's
having
an
impact
after
the
fact
for
us,
you
know,
and
it
is
in
fact
those
sort
of
those
sort
of
thinking
gaps
in
which
I'm
most
interested
in
as
a
person
and
as
a
participant
is
in.
You
know,
trying
to
be
helpful
in
identifying
and
working
on
those
things
before
they
become
a
problem
later
and
then
we
suddenly
have
to
oh
geez,
and
now
we
have
to
have
an
entire
initiative
for
those
things.
C
So
anyway,
that's
my
my
off
top
of
my
head
sort
of
thing
that
I
can
think
of
while
I'm
in
the
middle
of
cooking.
Thank
you.
G
I
think
I've
learned
a
lot
and
I
continue
learning.
For
me,
this
journey
has
been
a
learning
experience
and
yeah
today.
Today
it
was,
it
is
the
token
engineering,
academy's
birthday
and
asturga
say
said:
we
are
almost
two
years
on
this
on
this
project
and
I
feel
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress
and
I
feel
we've
made.
We've
learned
a
lot
about
ourselves
and
about
others
and
that
each
movement
that
we
do
requires
us
to
learn
different
things
like
when
we
were
in
the
params
parties.
G
I
also
learned
about
like
how
to
provide
services
and
how
to
have
clear
expectations,
and
I've
also
learned
a
lot
a
lot
about
project
management
thanks
to
the
to
tam
and
to
the
steroids
and
to
the
all
the
the
work,
the
way
that
we've
been
working
for
a
lot
of
time
and
yeah.
We
are,
we
continue
learning
all
about
like
the
token
utility
and
but
I
think
that
the
cultural
build
still
like
unites
us,
and
it's
like
somehow
a
common
point
that
unites
the
community,
so
yeah
reflecting
it's.
G
It's
like
yeah,
a
a
really
cool
learning
opportunity,
also
learning
from
from
really
amazing
people
from
technology
from
social
points
of
view,
learning
from
our
own
mistakes.
G
D
Yes,
okay,
I
hope
I
I'm
you
know
somewhat
clear
anyway.
Anyway,
I
mean
I
haven't
been
with
the
token
engineering
ecosystem
for
very
long,
but
I
mean
but,
but
still
I
mean,
I
can't
connect
with
what
you
people
are
saying,
because
I
haven't
been
long
enough
or
even
that
I
mean
what
I've
been
involved
with
certain
very
narrow
things
being
part
of
certain
research
groups,
but
what
I
really
find
very
motivating
about
about
this
whole
thing
is:
that
is
a
fantastic
cause.
You
know
it's
something
worth
you
know
fighting
for.
D
D
I
mean
all
the
problems
which
are
being
mentioned
now
is
basically
because
of
a
lack
of
being
able
to
monetize,
and
I
think
that
is
both
both
both
tragic
and
at
the
same
time
it.
It
also
shows
that
you
know
the
opportunity
is
right
there.
You
know
in
front
of
us
because
what's
happening,
I
mean
the
kind
of
developments
which
are
happening
in
token
engineering
and
all
that
it
shows
that
it
can
be
done.
I
mean
it's
your.
D
You
know
I
mean
all
the
verticals
they're
actually
reaching
out
and
servicing
other
entities,
it's
not
too
difficult
to
actually
monetize
that
and
that's
what
I've
been
talking
about,
and
I
mean
it's
only.
I
mean
that's
what
token
engineering
is
about,
so
it
it
mean
it
can
be
done.
And
if,
if
that
monetization
happens
and
in
the
what
you
call
I've
prepared
a
kind
of
a
presentation
based
on
what
has
been
done,
I
mean
what's
been
done
in
the
as
what
is
something
very
elementary
and
it
it
has
got
to
continue.
D
But
I
do
believe
that
from
this
can
emanate
some
real
solutions,
and
I
do
believe
that
the
opportunities
for
tackling
this
particular
problem-
it
exists,
and
I
mean
and
and
it
can
be
done
and
and
it's
again,
engineering
and
I've
actually
applied.
These
particular
techniques
in
in
certain
communities
and
those
same
principles
can
be
applied
out
here
and
and
it's
possible
for
every
particular
that
it
can.
I
mean
it
is
possible
to
if
you're,
creating
value.
Then,
since
every
value
can
be
tokenized,
then
it
is
possible
by
using
innovative.
D
You
know
you
know,
mechanism,
designs
and
token
engineering
to
actually
monetize
it
it's
a
kind
of
a
challenge,
and
there
is
another
aspect
about
it
which
is
important
but
which
I
don't
want
to
go
into
it,
but
both
of
those
things
put
together
it
is
possible.
Maybe
I
mean
in
the
presentation
if,
if
you
can,
if
you
can
make
the
presentation,
sometimes
I'd
like
to
explain
in
more
detail.
A
Thank
you.
I
was
just
having
some
reflections
on
the
last
two
weeks
that
we
had
like
slower
moments
in
community
because
of
the
conferences.
So,
if
anything
from
the
conferences
you
wanted
to
reflect
on,
that
happened
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks
that
you
would
like
to
bring
up
or
how
you've
been
feeling.
G
Yeah
I
mean
my
reflection
is
like
I'm,
you
know
I'm
going
to
leave
from
august
16
and
I'll
be
like
a
month
out
of
the
conference,
and
I
I
don't
know
like
it
feels
like.
Oh
no
one
month
outside
this
will
I
don't
know
I
feel
like
it.
You
know
we,
since
we
are
advancing
so
fast,
like
things
will
change
and
yeah.
I
don't
know,
but
I'm
also
at
the
same
time
trying
to
get
all
the
things
I'm
doing
and
get
them
done.
G
So
you
know
like
so
I'm
not
living
with
the
need
of
getting
things
done
and
that's
affecting
other
people.
So
yeah
I'm
trying
out
trying
to
close
all
my
things
and
yeah
I
mean
I'm
excited,
don't
just
you
know,
you
know
I
excited
balances
at
the
same
time,
like
you
know,
yeah,
let's
see
how
the
tc
is
when
I'm
back
in
a
month.
I
don't
know
yeah,
that's
what's
going
on
in
my
mind,
I
don't
know
how
to
pass
it
so
back
to
you.
F
Two
things
I
wanted
to
share
one
is
that
you
know
back
in
like
a
month
ago,
or
so
there
was
a
proposal
that
I
think
zepty
pushed
through,
which
was
the
transparency
around
salaries
at
the
tc
and
that
passed,
and
so
that
salary
data
is
now
in
this
master
spreadsheet.
That
transparency
has
is,
is
publishing
now
and
it's
a
cool.
It's
a
really
cool
spreadsheet.
It's
got
all
this
stuff.
One
of
the
things
it
has
in
there
is,
you
know
all
the
money
that
each
one
of
us
has
made
it's
very
transparent.
F
So
a
lot
of,
I
think,
a
lot
of
the
questions
about
like
who's
made.
What
and
you
know,
questions
about
fairness.
You
know
we
should.
I
think
we're
gonna
need
to
prepare
for
some
of
these
questions,
because
these
will
probably
come
up
as
a
result
of
this
I
mean
it's
a
good
practice
to
have
transparency
and
then
there's
gonna,
be
you
know,
there'll
probably
be
some
discussion,
so
that's
one
thing
second
thing
is
I've,
been
I've
been
thinking?
F
My
view
on
this
is
is
actually
maybe
a
little
bit
different,
but
I'm
looking
at
the
money
that
the
tc
has
and
the
spending
and
the
fact
that
you
know
we're
not
going
to
be
making
revenues
large-scale
revenues
for
quite
some
time.
It's
going
to
take
us
a
while
to
ramp
up
services,
and
things
like
that.
I
mean
we'll,
do
it
but
it'll
it's
going
to
take
time.
F
So
I
think
that
we're
going
into
a
period
where
you
know
it's,
it's
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
very
hard
to
pay
people
full
time.
The
way
that
we're
that
we
have
been
paying
full
time
up
until
now-
and
you
know
this
is
this-
is
just
this
is
kind
of
a
hard
reality,
but
it
is,
I
think,
the
reality
that
we're
moving
into,
and
so
I
wish
I'd
you
know
I
wish
that
we
were
not
in
this
situation,
but
it
is
kind
of
the
reality.
F
F
Is
this
model
of
community
organizing
right
where
in
community
organizing
you're,
you
really
are
relying
much
more
on
the
community
to
contribute
to
the
mission
and
to
the
community
and
you
you
do
have
some
people
who
are
getting
paid,
but
what
they're
doing
is
maybe
focusing
less
on
the
actual
doing
and
more
on
the
coordinating
of
people
and
that
maybe
we're
relying
less
on
like
fixed
income.
You
know
like
monthly
incomes
for
people
and
more
like
gil.
F
You
know
more
like
praise
system,
but
then
also
bounties
and
also
just
contributions,
and
so
in
a
world
like
that.
If
you,
if
you,
if
you
believe
that
that's
true,
that
we
are
kind
of
headed
to
a
constrained
budget
scenario
and
we
need
to
find
ways
of
continuing
the
work
and
we
nee
are
going
to
need
to
rely
more
on
volunteerism
and
bounties
as
a
way
to
get
it
done.
F
C
Think
the
right
to
interrupt
you
get
in,
but
I
have
a
question
about
this:
the
the
thing
that
you're
talking
about
the
thing
that
you're
talking
about
moving
to
is
the
only
reality.
I
know
already
right
and
I
would
say
that's
probably
true-
for
the
vast
majority
of
participants
in
the
token
engineering
commons.
So
that's
a
little
bit
confusing
to
me.
So
maybe
you
can
so
you're
you're
talking
about
a
reality.
I've
existed
in
for
two
years
and
then
so
like
we
need
to
transition
into
that.
C
F
Yeah
I,
what
I'm
saying
is
that
even
the
20
people
right
now,
we
don't
have
the
the
way
that
we
were
paying
back
in.
You
know
april
may
june
that
level
of
outflow
of
salaries,
even
for
that
is
probably
not
good.
If
we
keep
doing
that,
we
will
we
will
spend
out.
F
So
maybe
you
know
that
is
I'm
I'm.
I
know
that
you're
right
that
that's.
That
is
the
reality
for
a
number
of
people,
and
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is.
Maybe
it's
gonna
become
more
that
way
for
the
foreseeable
future,
and
so
I
guess
what
I'm
my
point
is
less
about.
You
know
it.
F
It
wasn't
that
way
before
and
now
it's
going
this
way
and
that's
good
clarification,
but
it's
we're
not
moving
out
of
that,
and
so
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is
that
I
think
we
really
do
need
some
ways
of
recognizing
people
and
giving
value
to
people
that
are
not
purely
financial
right,
so
expertise,
experience
reputation.
F
F
It's
not
fake.
It's
very
it's
very
real.
If
we
make
it
real
so
I'll
just
stop
there.
I
don't
know
who
hasn't
gone
yet
nt
have
you
gone.
E
Okay,
I
guess
I
felt
that
we
are
actually
moving
on
faster
and
like
we
are
taking
on
more
stuff.
I
think
when
I
entered
the
community
around
february
march,
that
was
the
sort
of
the
start
of
the
of
the
bear
market,
and
I
certainly
saw
you
know
a
bit
more.
E
You
know
the
community
so
sort
of
backing
up
a
bit
and
changing
to
be
able
to
you
know
accept
the
reality
of
the
market,
but
I
feel
like
now
we
are
sort
of
focusing
back
again
in
taking
action
on
what
we
can
do
and
so,
at
least
in
my
personal
case,
that
I'm
that
I've
been
particularly
involved
with
sample.
There's,
you
know
a
lot
of
projects
going
on
and
they're
getting
done
in
like
in
no
time.
E
Yeah,
that's
that's
how
I'm
saying
it.
I
think
what
gideon
said
is
very
true,
but
I'm
also
really
proud
that
proud
of
the
amount
and
dedication
of
work
that's
been
going
towards
these
initiatives
and
back
to
you.
A
A
He
won
a
prize
in
token
engineering
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
he
has
an
art,
but
now
our
curation
dao
kind
of
thing
and
they've
been
organizing
art
events
and
it's
a
very
interesting
dial
structure,
and
I
was
talking
to
him
because
it's
someone
that
have
has
been
downright
for
a
lot
a
long
time
and
on
the
challenge
of
complexity
and
how
like,
when
things
are
singing
like
if
they
are
difficult
or
that
the
structure
is
somehow
waiting
on.
A
A
I
love,
if
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
agree,
but
if
gov
could
like
fully
use
the
court
sample
for
as
long
as
it's
needed
and
to
see
if
there
are
other
work
streams
in
the
tc.
That
could
do
that.
You
know
like
slightly
shift
direction
to
work
on
the
same
problem
space
and
hopefully
find
a
solution
quicker,
and
if
there
are
things
that
are
not
like
absolutely
needed
right
now,
how
could
we
communicate
that
from
like?
How
can
we
communicate
these
things
that
you
just
said
gideon?
A
You
know
in
a
way
that
that
people
were
not
expecting
any
type
of
financial
financial
compensation
and
how
can
we
be
responsible
to
the
people
that
we're
expecting
and
how
can
we
make
some
type
of
transition
to
focus
on
the
solution
on
a
minimum
capacity
kind
of
thing.
F
I
I
have
one
just
quick
thing
that
I
I
think
a
practical
thing
is
the
other
thing
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
is
the
three
layers
of
you
know:
culture,
governance
and
economic
layers,
and
one
thing
that
I
think
would
be
really
good.
Fertile
area
for
collaboration
between
soft
gov
and
sampo
is
thinking
about
the
interface
between
governance
and
economic
layers,
right
and
and
culture
layers.
F
Right,
because,
as
we
go
into
a
phase
of
the
dao
where
the
the
economic
layer
becomes
more
vibrant
and
becomes
a
bigger
and
bigger
part
of
the
community,
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
grounded
in
the
governance
and
the
culture.
And
so
that's
the
piece
olivia
that
I've
been
thinking
about.
At
some
point,
I
I
think
we
should
just
like
set
up
some
time
to
talk
about
this,
but
how
you
know
there.
F
A
A
So
there
do
you
want
to
take
it.
B
Thank
you,
david
yeah,
so
maybe
just
to
introduce
kojak
like
we've
been
talking
and
chatting
about
the
the
sort
analysis.
The
some
members
of
the
tc
have
been
taking
part
on
participating
on
the
figma
board.
So
kojic
wanted
to
provide
a
presentation
more
in
detail
about
the
analysis
and
and
the
next
steps
moving
forward
like
what
initiatives
could
come
up
from
from
here.
So
so
that's
that's
the
that's
the
purpose
of
of
this
goal
so
I'll
just
pass.
It
pass
it
to
you.
Kojak.
A
B
D
It's
not
working
yeah,
it's
not
I'm
not
able
to
okay.
How
do
I
send
the
file.
D
B
Or
if
it's
easier,
you
can
also
like,
send
us
the
link
directly
to
me
on
the
chat
that
can
work
as
well.
I'm.
B
A
D
Yeah,
okay,
yeah!
I
can
hear
you
the
thing
is
my
system
is
so
much
it's
yeah,
I'm
saying.
A
In
on
discord,
if
you
come
now
to
this,
where,
then
you
stop
both
sharing
screen
and
streaming,
it
will
yeah.
It
stops.
F
I
did
comments
on
an
early
draft.
I
don't
know
if
I've
seen
the
latest
draft.
D
D
Okay,
I
I'm
just
gonna
start
talking
about
what
exactly
I
mean,
I'm
kind
of
suggesting.
What
I'm
suggesting
is.
I
mean,
instead
of
actually
going
into
the
spot
itself
immediately,
I'm
going
to
start
by
citing
some
particular
solutions,
and
there
are
three
basic
solutions
which
are
possible
to
actually
tackle
this
particular
thing.
I
mean
the
quandary
which
I
fee.
I
feel
that
you
know
tc
is
currently
facing,
and
the
three
things
are.
First,
I
mean
create
a
local
currency.
D
Anybody
wants
a
service
from
a
dec
group
or
made
or
a
common
strike
group,
or
if
they,
if
they
want
some
tool
or
application
of
dec
to
be
applied
for
them,
I
mean,
then
it's
got
to
be
paid
in
these.
You
know
dec
tokens
and
these
tc
tokens
can
only
be
purchased
by
by
actually
trust
tokens
for
this,
so
it
actually,
ultimately,
it
drives
up
a
certain
amount
of
demand.
Further
for
for
the
tec,
tokens.
D
What
should
be
done
is
to
is
to
create
what
are
called
sbt
soul
bone
tokens
so
that
the
latent
talent
in
in
each
individual
it
can
actually
surface,
and
we
and
we,
you
know,
realize
without
exploitation
without
being
intrusive
in
in
I
mean
in
a
very
a
kind
of
a
neat
way.
Now
this
is
cutting
edge.
This
is
only
being
understood
now,
but
I
think
tc
being
what
it
is.
If
we
are
on
the
cutting
edge,
then
we
we
should
be
daring
enough
to
actually
experiment
with
these
particular
suggestions.
D
D
A
C
D
No,
no,
since
I
don't
have
my
presentation,
I'm
doing
it
backwards,
I'm
I'm
arriving
at
the
at
the
solutions
and
actually
I'm
trying
to
relate
that
to
how
it
I
mean
the
it
we
are
using
our
strengths
to
overcome
our
weaknesses
by
seizing
the
opportunities
to
contract,
the
threats.
D
Okay-
and
I
mean
essentially
the
you
know,
fundamental
strengths-
that
we
I
mean
the
token
engineering
are
people
culture
and,
of
course
I
mean
and
tools.
D
Okay,
I
I
mean
I
mean
on
the
face
of
it
and
the
weakness
seems
to
be
the
I
mean
inability
to
to
raise
funds,
or
you
know,
monetize,
with
its
its
its
own
capabilities.
D
So
a
certain
lack
of
expertise
and,
and
actually
the
I
mean,
the
tools
are
also
quite
nasty
and
you
know
difficult
for
the
average
person
to
use
it.
There
is
like
like
say
that
the
token
does
not
reflect
the
underlying
potential.
It's
actually
a
design
failure,
that's
a
weakness.
D
I
mean
there's
a
concept
of
you
know
that
anything
of
value
can
be
tokenized.
If
anything
of
of
you
know,
value
can
be
tokenized,
then
there's
a
digital
layer
all
been
over
everything,
and-
and
you
know
token,
engineering
and
the
opportunities
for
token
engineering
is
like
what
so
sister
says
it's
godlike
for
the
sake.
It's
it's
huge,
so
I
mean
in
the
real
sense,
there's
no
dearth
of
opportunities.
D
So
the
the
the
you
know,
the
threats
are
many.
You
know
your
your
crypto,
your
crypto
in
winter,
people
can
actually
be
leave
for
for
other
web
3
opportunities
and
all
that
now
the
point
is
okay.
Why
I
come
to
these
these
three
particular
solutions
is
because
it
actually
catalyzes
the
internal
potential
to
by
by
capitalizing
on
our
strengths.
D
That
is
people
tools,
and
I
mean-
and
you
know,
culture
and
and
all
that
this
thing
by
seizing
the
you
know,
seizing
the
opportunities
both
both
internal
and
external
for
the
same
and
your
sbts
are
actually
a
way
of
actually
realizing
that
particular
potential,
which
is
within
this
particular
system.
This
for
the
savior.
I
hope
I
had
my
presentation
for
that.
A
Thank
you,
thank
you
and
I'm
sorry,
you
had
the
technical,
the
difficulties,
I'm
sure
you
will
get
to
understand
all
your
point
soon
and
if
you
can
share
the
presentation
and
the
soft
channel,
I
think,
will
be
really
helpful
for
us
to
take
a
look
at
it
too.
Maybe
bear
you
have
something
to
compliment.
B
I
think
it's
important
to
do
these
overall
analysis
of
the
different
layers
in
the
tc
and
actually
come
up
with
practical
solutions
right
at
the
end,
things
don't
have
to
end
up
just
in
discussions
without
action
right,
so
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
set-
and
this
is
one
of
the
initiatives
that
be
that
it's-
that
it's
around
you
know
like
a
road
map
right
that
with
we
define
objectives,
we
define
actions
that
are
aligned
to
the
mission
of
the
tc,
so
yeah.
B
You
know,
I
think
it's
important
to
to
start
having
these
conversations
and
it's
also
really
important
to
always
remember
what
we're
doing
yeah
it's
cutting
edge
like,
and
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
try
your
new
stuff.
You
know
like
try
new
systems
and
if
we
fail,
that's
fine,
you
know
like
we
need
to
iterate.
We
need
to
learn,
and
in
and
in
the
process
we
will.
We
will
progress
so
yeah.
I
just
think
it's
it's
it's
a
starting
point
and
yeah
it's
a
it's
a
shame.
B
D
I'll
share
it
with
everybody
I'll
share
with
you,
you
know
you
can
share
it
with
them
with
everybody
and
it
sounds
great
yeah,
and
then
I'm
ready
for
the
forum
for
presentation
and
the
point
which
I
you
know
you
know
just
you
know
extending
what
you're
saying
there
is
that,
yes,
we
you
know
there's
a
way
of
you
know
experimenting
in
a
very
calibrate.
D
Being
done
in
x,
prize
and
google
exit
see
in
all
the
I
mean,
all
the
all
the
verticals
say
like
in
gravity
and
all
that
all
these
have
got
potential.
D
The
thing
is,
I
mean
everything
has
got
potential,
both
both
internal
and
and
external.
D
What
has
got
to
be
done
is
to
actually
see
you
know,
reframe
the
potential
in
a
much
larger
framework
as
a
cause
as
as
something
which,
like
it's
more
than
a
massively
transformative
purpose
internally,
and
it's
addressing
something
very
big,
saying:
okay,
climate,
some
part
of
climate
change,
you
know,
whatever
whatever,
which
actually
motivates
people
and
within
that
identify
milestones
for
the
sake
of
which
leads
to
a
kind
of
a
moonshot.
The
moonshot
is
something
which
actually
releases
the
exponentiality
of
that
of
that
particular.
D
You
know
initiative,
and
you
know
I
can
give
examples
of
I
mean
of
that,
but
funding
the
might
you
know
the
milestones
can
be
very,
very
small,
which
is
tractable,
which
is
easily
fundable.
You
know.
Sometimes
you
know
you
don't
even
need
funds
for
that,
but
achieving
a
small
milestone
actually
points
towards
the
viability
of
that
particular
initiative
and
you
achieve
one
or
two
one
or
two
milestones.
Then
funding
the
moon,
the
the
moon
shot
or
even
the
project
becomes
viable.
Now
that
is
one
way
of
actually
raising
funds.
A
Yeah,
maybe
I'll
I'll
I'll,
try
to
say
what
I'm
hearing
and
see
if
that
yeah
resonates,
that.
A
Through
mapping
the
strengths
and
vulnerabilities
and
opportunities
in
the
community
that
we
could
have
some
type
of
reputation,
token,
that
would
be
attached
to
this
strength
stream
and
then,
through
that
we
could
build
a
roadmap
based
on
our
weaknesses
of
what
we
need
to
develop
and
then,
through
this
roadmap,
there
are
some
little
milestones
of
things
that
need
to
be
done.
That
would
bootstrap
us
to
have
law.
D
D
The
second
thing
is
that
I'm
actually
I
mean
I'm
talking
about
creating
an
internal
token
which
which
can
be
used
for
you
know
which
can
be
used
for.
If,
if
I
want
a
certain
group
or
a
certain
individual
to
do
something
for
a
particular
project,
then
that
particular
person
can
be
played
in
these
particular
tokens
for
the
same,
and
it
can
even
be
an
external
agency.
D
Now
some
of
these
tools
of
tec
has
been
given
to
external
organizations
that
has
got
to
be
monetized
and
the
way
of
monetizing,
which
I
suggest
is
through
these
through
this
particular
currency.
I
mean
you
know
this
particular
token
if
another
external
agency
wants
to
actually
services
of
dec
for
for,
say,
the
augmented
bottom
curve
or
conviction
voting,
and
all
that
it
has
got
to
pay
through
this
particular
token.
D
The
second
thing
is
that
to
build
actually
circular
economies
within
dec,
which
is
actually
driven
by
this
particular
currency,
I
mean
you
know
this
particular
token.
You
know,
let
me
call
it
so.
Techy
drives
the
circularity
here.
So
basically,
what
happens
is
that
at
I
mean
at
you
know,
multiple
levels,
capitalizes.
A
Yeah
we're
we're
on
the
top
of
the
hour.
G
A
I
think
there's
a
lot
to
be
explored
there
and
it
would
be
much
easier
to
have
it
visually
and
and
written.
So
I
think
we
can
like
use
a
lot.
The
softcup
chat
to
expand
on
this
idea.
That
sounds
that
you
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
it,
and
I
hear
that
there's
very
interesting
pieces
in
there,
so
I
would
love
to
dive
deeper
into
it
and
perhaps
throughout
this
week,
before
next
week's
call,
we
can
have
discussion
on
the
chat.
A
Thank
you
for
presenting
kojak.
Thank
you.
Bear
also
for
supporting
this
work
and
thank
you
all
for
for
joining
and
yeah.