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00:00 - What learning did you have from the MVV tokenlog voting process
19:00 - MVV Runoff & strategies
40:00 - Params & soft gov
47:00 - Reward system holistic overview
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C
E
C
C
F
Yeah,
you
know
I
I
actually
did
not
participate
in
the
mvv
process,
and
that
was
a
a
choice,
but
you
know
I
I
did
learn
a
lot
from
it
just
from
the
perspective
of
knowing
the
community
and
and
the
need
for
transparency
and
openness
in
terms
of
defining
such
an
important
document.
F
The
mission
itself,
one
of
the
reasons
I
did
not
participate
was
because
I
don't
feel
like
I
have
enough
input
on
the
vision
of
what
I
would
like
to
see
the
tec
become.
F
F
You
know
iterated
upon
in
the
future
for
future
commons
and
and
revisited
over
the
tec
over
time,
and
I
think
it's
really
valuable
to
have
that
openness
and
transparency,
even
though
we
have
gone
through
that
aspect
of
you
know,
governance
theater
comments,
which
is
something
to
reflect
on
as
well,
so
outside
of
that
yeah.
I
think
it's
been
been
pretty
great
and
I've
learned
a
lot
from
so
pastor.
Wonka.
B
Thanks
nate:
well,
I
think
it's
super
valuable
just
to
make
an
effort
to
be
that
that
transparent
and
it
has
like
served
so
that
the
now
the
three
proposals
that
are
in
the
runoff
are
like
better
than
the
initial
ones
that
the
initial
ones
version
of
themselves.
B
D
D
G
I
didn't
yeah,
I
didn't
participate
in
the
bb,
I'm
just
really
learning
what
that
is,
I'm
not
sure
what
I've
learned
this
week.
I
think
mostly
my
learning
this
week
is
very
personal
in
that
times.
I
forget
that
the
kind
of
the
intensity
of
the
time
that
we're
going
through-
and
I
get
on
with
my
normal
life
and
then
some
days.
It
just
hits
me
like
it's
an
incredibly
tough
time
to
live
in
at
the
moment
and
just
to
be
gentle
and
kind
of
bind
with
ourselves.
C
I
I'm
not
sure
what
I
learned.
Oh
yeah,
I
participated.
I'm
not
sure
what
I
learned
from
the
process.
I
haven't
given
a
thought
actually
before
I
just
like
I
you
know
just
maybe
my
experience
was.
It
was
good
that
that
we
kind
of
you
know,
created
this
experiment
and
it
was
and
yeah
I
don't
know.
I
should
definitely
give
it
a
little
more
tough,
but
it
was
great.
It's
definitely
great
yeah.
C
I
And
like
yeah
and
everybody
was
like-
oh
my
god
what's
happening,
and
it
was
kind
of
shocking
at
first
but
but
yeah
other
than
that.
I
I
think
for
me
it
was
great
actually
to
read
all
the
all
the
proposals
and
you
know
to
to
to
see
how
other
people
are
are
seeing
that
and
looking
at
the
at
the
mission
and
and
the
vision
and
all
the
values
and
how
we,
how
we
basically
all
align
at
the
end
we
align
and
come
to
that
one
thing
and
that's
what
excites
me
about
this
process.
J
Thank
you,
yeah.
Well,
I
participated
as
much
as
I
could,
which
means
I
did
submit
one.
I
submitted
a
mission
division
of
values.
I
didn't
vote
because
I,
my
my
I'm
still
become
my
process
of
the
trusted.
Seed
isn't
complete
right
now,
so
I
was.
I
was
bummed
about
that
because
I
was
very
excited
to
participate
and
I
have
to
say
that
for
me
as
a
as
still
a
new
community
member,
it
was
in.
J
I
did
it
because
I
knew
I
would
learn
a
lot
and
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
basically
researching
what
everyone
who
is
part
of
founding
this.
This
group
was
saying
you
know.
I
went
through
all
the
notes
and
all
that
stuff
and
read
all
the
missions
and
and
and
beyond
that
like
went
to
the
the
note
boards
and
was
just
like
trying
to
learn
as
much
as
I
could.
J
So
it
was
a
real
for
me
to
formulate
a
mission,
vision
and
value,
so
it
was
for
me
it
was
a
real
huge
learning
experience
to
really
help
me
understand
what
the
dynamics
are
of
the
group.
So
it
was
super
beneficial
to
me
and
then
I
had
there's
another
facet
to
it
like
how
I
observed
the
process
and-
and
that's
been
interesting
too-
and
a
learning
experience
too
and
yeah.
I
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
questions
and
thoughts
on
that
too.
So
it
was
a.
It
was
a
great
experience.
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
Okay,
yeah.
For
me,
I
mean
yeah
get
more
used
to
the
tools,
that's
something
I
learned
and
the
one
thing
that
I
really
like
it
is
like.
Even
if,
like
we
had
money,
mvps
like
all
of
them
were
on
the
same
line,
so
we
I
feel
like
we're
doing
good
good
job,
communicating
like
our
missions,
values
and
mission,
vision
and
values,
yeah
and
yeah.
That's
me
I'll
pass
it
to
it.
E
K
C
E
Content
is
really
hard
like
you
can't
just
you
know,
it's
never
done,
and
you
you
it's
really
hard
to
get
things
short
and
concise
and
well
worded.
Just
takes
a
lot
of
work
and
it's
it's
one
of
these
things
that
you
just
need
a
deadline
to
work
towards
and
then
call
it
done.
You
know
like
and
because
the
it's
amazing
how
much
more
improved
the
the
the
three
that
are
up
there
are
and
how
diverse
they
are
now
at
the
beginning,
everyone
kind
of
started
from
the
same
base
and
they
didn't.
E
They
changed
some
things,
but,
like
a
lot
of
it
was
the
same
now
we
have
three
very
different
and
distinct
things
that
were
not
voted
on
before,
basically
because
they're
all
so
different.
So
but
it's
because
everyone
kind
of
just
wrote
the
first
mvvs
and
was
like
you
know,
maybe
put
an
hour
or
two
behind
it.
E
Maybe
three
right
and
now
this
these
ones
have
been
iterated
what
much
more
informed
and
are
very
different,
and
so
I
think
the
way
we
predicted
the
process
would
go,
wasn't
how
it
went,
but
it
worked
out
really
well
and
I'm
excited
to
see
how
the
how
the
community
responds
to
these
three
distinct
choices
and
I'll.
Let
olivia
pass
it
for
me.
L
L
In
the
beginning,
it
was
like
this
tiny
little
snowball
and
that
you
know,
as
it
was
going
down
the
hill,
it
was
getting
more
and
more
momentum
and
more
and
more
like
collective
energy
from
everyone,
and
I
I
think
that
I
think
I
think
that's
the
three
that
we
ended
up
with
are
really
something
that
we
should
be
proud
of,
and
then
the
other
thing
I
learned
is
that
like
asking
people
to
submit
is
a
big
ask:
it's
really
hard.
L
It's
really
hard
to
do
it's
really
hard
for
community
members,
because
it
takes
so
much
time
to
understand
the
you
know
the
the
problem
space
and
then
to
design
a
solution
to
fit
that,
and
so
I
just
I
keep
thinking
you
know
we're
asking
for
a
lot.
If
we
ask
for
that,
and
maybe
how
do
we,
how
can
we
facilitate
that
to
make
it
easier
for
people
in
our
community
to
vote
on
things
and
to
submit
proposals?
And
then
the
last
thing
is
that,
like
what
grip
said,
content
is
hard.
L
You
know
refining
and
revising,
and
you
know
there's
this
old
joke
where
you
know
a
writer
goes
to
his
publisher
and
he's
just
like
yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I
would
have
made
it
shorter,
but
I
ran
out
of
time
because
it's
all
in
the
editing
and
refining
and
bringing
it
tighter
and
tighter
and
tighter
and
tighter
until
the
fewest
amounts
of
words
have
the
biggest
emotive
reaction
you
know
and
yeah.
So
I
I
learned
a
lot
and
I
thought
it
was
a
really
great
process
too,
and
I
will
pass
to
mateo.
L
Did
you
go
oh
I'll
pass
to
the
you
lydia
then.
M
Thank
you,
then.
I
I
think
the
whole
process
is
a
great
learning
process.
First,
is
using
talk,
unlock,
pushing
people
to
experiment
with
it,
then
creating
a
proposal
which
was
hard
but
merging
it
or
forking
it
for
an
existing
one
and
testing
everything
from
github
editing.
N
N
This
is
my
cooking
call,
and
but
yes,
anyway,
I
jump
into
the
process
at
the
very
start
and
didn't
so
much
to
bolton,
and
I
didn't
have
the
bandwagon
to
put
something
there
by
myself,
so
I
was
like,
but
then
I
kept
coming
back
and
seeing
the
iterations,
and
that
was
that
was
exciting
and
jumping
in
some
calls
with
people
coming
into
the
trusted
seat,
and
one
of
them
reminded
me
like
this
is
the
last
day
to
vote.
That
was
cool.
For
me,
I
mean,
like
the
awareness,
the
community
and
from
people
coming
into
into.
N
You
know
the
trust
that
said
common
stack,
that
going
to
the
tc
that
was
fun
and
just
as
well
was
just
looking
at
the
iterations,
but
particularly
I
I
personally
wish
I
had
more
more
more
bandwidth
or
something
like
this.
It
feels
like
so
super
important
that
I
shied
away
from
the
whole
process.
N
Just
because
of
that,
like
I
I
felt
like
I
needed,
like
a
you
know
like
a
spiritual
retreat
just
to
think
about
these
things
like
go
back
inside
myself
and
go
back
into
the
world
and
then
come
with
something
meaningful
and
before
that
he
was
studying
a
lot.
So
I
shied
away
from
the
process
I
devoted,
but
I
wish
I
had
way
more
time
to
jump
on
that,
and
so
it's
it's
tricky
just
to
handle
that,
and
it
has
made
me
think
about
some
ai
power
tools.
But
you
know
ai
power.
N
Where
is
the
human
pattern
that
anyway,
it's
it's
very
complex,
but
I
think
it
turned
out
very
beautiful.
So
I'm
very
looking
forward
to
see
what
emerges.
C
Thanks
yeah,
my
my
insights
were
were
similar
to
something
griff
and
tim
mentioned
to
of
how
refining
something
is
the
real
work
and
how
like
it
takes
so
much
time
to
to
have
concise
information,
and
that's
something
I've
been
looking
for
in
in
other
projects
too,
and
I
shared
the
other
day,
the
the
proof
of
humanity
now
and
how
their
message
was.
C
So,
like
so
short
and
saying
so
much
at
once,
and
this
inspired
me
a
lot
and
I
think
there
is
a
a
great
work
in
making
tldrs
of
everything
yeah
and
overall.
I
think
it
was
a
really
a
really
great
process
like
once
once
you
understand
how
much
time
it
takes
to
time
and
understanding
and
like
willingness
to
participate.
C
C
It's
still
like
it's
pretty
cool,
to
see
that
the
the
time
and
engagement
even
to
read
the
proposals
and
choose
what
was
your
favorite
one
cool.
So
we
can
announce
the
top
three
submissions
that
juan
proposed
today.
We
did
this,
so
there
is
no
bias
of
ownership,
so
we
don't
know
who
who
has
submitted
the
the
three
or
who
altered
each
one
of
them.
C
E
I
can
read
it:
what
is
the
vision
of
the
token
engineering
company
we
envision
a
world
where
sustainable
and
ethical
standards
are
inseparable?
Part
of
crypto
economic
systems,
engineering
in
the
tools,
research
and
education
necessary
to
achieve
this
goal?
Okay,
I
totally
screwed
up
the
framing
of
that,
but
that's
okay,
the
see
are
an
inseparable
part
of
crypto
economic
systems,
engineering
and
the
tools,
research
and
education
necessary
to
achieve
this
goal,
a
far-reaching
impact
and
continuous
funding.
E
G
G
Is
the
mission
steward
efficient
collection
and
distribution
of
funds
to
token
engineering
projects
and
financial
incentives.
The
token
engineering
commons
fosters
a
nourishing
environment
for
collaboration
and
value
creation.
What
are
the
core
values?
Local
engineering
commons
acknowledges
the
social
importance
of
economic
systems.
G
C
G
Yeah,
in
that
case,
we'll
go
for
nate.
F
I'm
sorry,
my
my
volume
went
out
there
for
a
second.
What
is
the
question.
F
Sorry,
the
token
engineering
commons
will
support
the
discovery,
development
and
proliferation
of
best
practices
for
engineering,
safe,
tokenized
economies.
Providing
these
public
goods
will
enable
cambrian
explosion
of
ethical,
inclusive,
safe,
resilient
and
diverse
economic
systems
for
the
benefits
of
societies
around
the
globe.
F
F
We
encourage
our
members
to
be
radically
open
source,
non-hierarchical,
transparent
in
their
intentions
and
accountable
for
their
actions.
We
prioritize
the
long-term
advancement
of
token
engineering
over
short-term
member
profits
because,
through
proper
economic
design,
if
we
succeed
collectively,
we
will
also
benefit
individually
at
longer
time
skills.
C
Awesome
so
now
everyone
can
go
and
vote
and
also
help
us
promote
this
voting.
So
this
is
going
until
next
tuesday,
the
27th
and
we're
gonna
announce
the
winner
and
in
the
end
of
the
soft
golf
call,
and
then
a
few
questions
related
to
this
process
is.
C
C
B
But
I
was
thinking
like
highlighting
like
keywords
on
each
document.
If,
if
yeah
I
can
do,
I
can
do
so,
highlighting
the
keywords
that
that
have
like
similarities
and
also
the
differences
between
each
one.
Maybe
I
can
have
like
green
color
for
similarities
and
like
orange
color
for
like
differences,
and
I
will
just
highlight
some.
C
Words,
yeah,
that's
cool,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
do
that
in
the
forum,
though,
can
you
or
maybe
even
in
a
document
and
then
posting
the
document
in
the
forum.
B
C
And
then
the
second
question
was:
should
we
have
the
top
two
winners
write
the
final
statement
together,
because
now
they
are
a
little
bit
more
they're
a
little
different
as
before,
like
griff
mentioned,
they
were
like
more
coming
from
the
same
source
and
then
one
thing
we
posted
in
the
forum
was
that
if
we
had
a
very
divergent
result
in
terms
of
like
split
votes
into
one
or
another,
into
different
proposals
that
we
we
would
invite
the
two
to
get
together
and
create
a
third,
a
third
one
that
wouldn't
be
voted
anymore.
C
It
would
just
be
the
final
one,
so
I
was
thinking
like
it
got
a
little
ambiguous
in
the
way
in
the
way
we
put
this
in
the
forum,
so
it
could
have
been
that
this
was
valid
for
the
for
the
first
run,
since
we
didn't
have
divergent
the
decision
making
neither
divergent
proposals
that
would
just
move
forward
with
this
and
now
the
the
final
result
is
the
final
result,
or
should
we
still
like
combine
them,
because
anyone
has.
B
Thoughts,
maybe
I
think
that
yeah,
the
second
place
can
like
make
suggestions
to
the
first
place,
but
like
the
winner
should
have
like
respect
for
for
yeah,
for
for
winning
in
the
in
the
in
the
boat.
F
So
I
I
may
kind
of
once
again
differ
on
this
in
my
opinion,
but
the
I
think
the
goal
of
this
is
try
to
capture
like
within
the
voting
is
to
capture
the
kind
of
the
elements
that
exist
within
the
mvvs
individually.
F
That's
you
know
are
absent
in
the
other
proposal,
and
so
by
collaborating
we
may
lose
or
gain
new
things
or
you
know.
So
I
think
if
it's
gonna
be
two
people,
I
think
it
should
be
a
larger
group
of
people.
Maybe
the
people
who
you
know
voted
on
it.
If
they
are
invited,
they
can
say
hey.
You
know
this
is
what
I
liked
about
these
two
things.
F
These
are
the
aspects
and
the
ideals
behind
these
and
the
reason
I
voted
for
them
and
maybe
have
a
you
know
a
consolidated
mvp
after
that.
But
I
think,
if
you
just
do
the
two,
I
think
you
lose
some
of
the
ass.
You
may
lose
some
of
the
aspects
that
the
reasons
why
people
voted
in
the
first
place.
E
I
really
like
that
that
thought
the
the
hack
session
just
be
happening
in
the
public
can
be
scheduled
if
it
happens,
I'm
just
reading
the
the
current
blog
post
and
it
says
what
if
there
is
a
polarized
scenario
where
two
to
three
different
proposals
have
an
evenly
split
majority
of
votes
in
the
runoff.
E
So
I
think
it
was
very
specific
about
the
runoff
and
I
also
think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
to
stick
to
a
decision-making
process
at
the
beginning
and
not
change
it
halfway
through.
So,
if,
whatever
honestly,
the
decision-making
process
is
whatever
it
is,
and
it's
not
nearly
as
important
as
the
trust
of
like.
If
there's
a,
if
there's
a
process
for
the
decision
to
happen,
we
either
need
to
have
a.
We
need
to
change
the
process
in
advance
or
we
stick
with
it
and
we
we
get
what
we
get.
E
I
don't
think
that
I,
I
don't
think
that
this
I
think
it's
more
important
that
we,
you
know
end
up
with
the
mission
vision
values
than
exactly
what
they
are.
You
know
that's
the
best
ever
and
there
will
be
another
chance
to
edit
them
at
the
when
we
have
the
coveted
and
we
do.
The
commons
upgrade
they'll
be
like
the
celeste
rules
that,
like
everybody
signs
on
to,
and
I
imagine
that
we
would
have
the
mvv
there.
So
it'd
be
like
another
opportunity
to.
C
That's
a
good
point
that
it
talked
about
the
runoff
that
passed.
I
didn't
pay
attention
on
that.
I
wrote
that
and
I
didn't
pay
attention.
E
Yeah,
it
just
says,
because
it
says
the
top
two
or
three
authors
will
be
invited
to
a
hack
session
to
merge
their
proposals
together.
It
doesn't
say
that
it'll
be
a
closed
tax.
A
I
wonder
if
it's
it's
going
to
be
changed
like
I
know
it's
not
in
the
rules
but,
for
example,
let's
say
like
levy's
proposal
wins
and
then
she's
doing
editing
beyond
that.
She
already
write
it.
I
feel,
like
the
community,
should
vote
again
and
have
like
a
minimum
courtroom
of
80.
I
mean
maybe
it's
too
much,
but
some
minimum
forum
like
so
the
community
is
happy
with
with
the
new
edits,
because
otherwise
I
mean
she
could
just
change
everything.
E
One,
I
think
we
have
to
remember
we're
not
in
an
adversarial-
and
you
know,
a
lot
of
the
like
crypto
stuff
is
always
expecting
that
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
people
who
are
like
trying
to
scam
something-
and
it's
like,
I
think,
there's
this
it's
a
different
scenario.
We
don't
really
have
to
worry
about
any
of
these
authors.
E
Just
saying.
Actually
you
know
what
the
mission
is
to
make
me
a
bunch
of
money.
You
know
I
don't
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that's
gonna
happen.
There's
like
what
do
you
call
that
assuming
positive
intent,
I
think
it's
fair
for
us
to
assume
positive
intent.
C
Yeah,
but
I
hear
I
hear
zapped
to
this
point
of
like
I
think
this
final
result
shouldn't
be
so
different
from
from
whatever
is
chosen
if
there
is
the
if
the
votes
are
split
and
if
there
is
a
divergent
decision.
C
E
If,
if
the
votes
do
start
to
look
like
they're
split,
we
should
probably
start
asking
people
what
they
love
the
most
about
each
proposal
and
like
if
it's
clear,
oh,
no,
the
the
vision
over
here
nailed
it,
but
the
mission
over
here
is
just
like
the
bomb.
You
know
it's
like.
Oh,
okay.
Well,
that's
easy!
Just
pick,
some
pick
the
pieces
and
we
combine
the
values
and
then
you
know.
L
E
C
What
is
the
strategy
that
people
are
using
like
is
anyone
voting
with
older
votes
or
people
are
using
just
a
little
bit
and
splitting
kind
of
evenly
or
like
putting
or
just
voting
for
one
or
for
three
or-
and
this
is
so
hard
to
to
have
a
real
grasp
of
what
people
are
doing,
it's
kind
of
like
anonymous
and
in
the
yeah.
This
is
a
tricky
one
where
I
feel
like.
Maybe
the
tool
could
improve
somehow.
F
So
I
had
some
thoughts
on
this
and
I
see
it
a
lot
with
endows
in
general
and
in
the
sense
that
you
know
right
now
we're
using
quadratic
voting,
which
is
really
great.
I
love
quadratic
voting.
I
think
it's
really
awesome
and
it
works
really
well.
However,
I
you
know,
I
do
think.
F
Other
forms
of
voting
would
be
good
for
this
particular
type
of
decision
things
like
dot
voting
or
whatever
it
may
be
approval
some
form
of
approval
voting
where
you
have
multiple
proposals
that
you're
voting
on
and
you
can
kind
of
show
which
ones
you
you
have
preferences
for,
but
I
you
know,
I
think,
for
this
one
I
think
most
people
are
just
putting
them
all
on
what
they
like,
or
a
portion
of
them,
what
they
like
and
and
the
rest
of
them,
are
kind
of,
if
they're
separated
from
mission
vision
and
values
separate
rather
than
one
mvv
proposal.
E
Yeah,
I
will
say
that
I
think
the
mvv
was
sort
of
this
process
was
sort
of,
like
I
don't
know
like
just
like
smashed
into
this
voting
strategy,
almost
as
a
beta
test
for
the
hatch
parameters
and
which
is
a
beta
test
for
the
commons
upgrade
right,
so
it
was
kind
of
yeah.
I
would
agree
that
this
isn't
the
ideal
way
of
deciding
mission
vision,
values.
E
Well,
I
don't
think
it
was
horrible,
but-
and
I
think
we
ended
up
with
really
good
results
and
kind
of
like
focused
at
energy
at
mvp,
from
like
lots
of
directions
which
is
cool
but
probably
like
olivia
was
saying,
like
there's
a
lot
of
ways
that,
even
if
we
want
to
do
quadratic
voting,
what
if
you
could
just
put
in
like
I
want
to
give
this
one
25
this
one
70
and
this
one
five
right
and
then
just
voted
for
you.
It
was
like
they're.
B
Like
you.
C
And
that's
exactly
what
happened
yeah
and
I
think,
there's
something
you
you
said
to
the
other
day,
griff
that
having
a
cohesive
mvv
is
something
interesting
too,
because
we
did
debate
this
initially
of
like
having
it
or
not
and
and
the
exercise
of
thinking
and
the
three
of
them.
Maybe
this
is
something
I
can
add
to
the
learnings
of
mvp
like
for
me.
C
Writing
the
three
of
them
made
me
actually
think
what
does
each
one
mean
like
it
made
me
research
deeper
into
what
is
even
the
vision?
What
what
does
the?
What
is
the
vision
used
for
like,
and
I
was
seeing
some
people
saying
that
the
vision
can
even
be
utopian
in
some
cases,
because
it's
just
like
what
is
the
direction
we
want
to
bring
people
in
and
then
having
that
written
with
the
mission?
It's
like,
oh,
where
do
I
yeah?
C
C
Cool,
so
the
next
point
that
I
think
we're
kind
of
talking
already
about
is
params
and
softgov,
so
how
how
can
softgov
support
on
the
params
the
params
run,
and
how
do
we
like?
We
raised
a
bunch
of
points
that
came
as
a
learning
from
the
mvv.
How
are
we
thinking
them
with
with
the
params?
Do
we
want
to
have
a
session
with
wesley
to
investigate
the
possibilities
of
the
tool?
E
Well,
yeah,
I
mean
I'd,
be
curious
about
booking
a
time
with
wesley
and
giving
him
feedback
of
our
voting
experience.
That
seems
really
reasonable.
Getting
him
to
push
some
updates
on
how
to
vote.
I
mean
there
were.
It
might
be
easier,
even
just
to
make
issues
in
in
his
github
and
then
and
then
schedule
a
time
with
him
to
like
go
over
them
and
collecting
issues
that
we
thought
it
could
improve.
E
I
feel
like
that's
the
number
one
way
to
support
programs
from
this
experience
for
sure
it's
just
improving
the
tool
like
it'd,
be
great.
If
you
could
remove
your
boats
right
like
that's,
why
it
doesn't
make
sense
necessarily
to
do
the
like
67
here,
three
percent
there
30
there,
because
then
you
can't
change
it.
When
someone
adds
a
new
one,
it
only
makes
sense
in
the
runoff
right
now.
E
You
know
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
like
discussion
that
could
be
had
about
different
features
and
different
options
and
thoughts.
So
I
think
just
exploring
that
more
I'd
be
curious.
If
anyone
else
has
any
other
thing
directions
that
the
this
picking
mvv
and
then
taking
this
experience
and
how
it
could
improve,
we
could
improve
it
for
the
next
round
and
the.
B
Next,
maybe
it
would
be
good
for
the
proposers
to
have
like
a
session
to
share
their
parameters
like
I,
I
liked
the
the
exercise
we
did
today
reading
the
the
proposals,
and
it
would
be
good
for
people
to
say
like
hey.
This
is
why
what
I
think-
and
this
is
why
I
think.
E
This
that's
a
great
idea
right,
giving
people
who
want
to
present
hey
vote
for
me.
You
know
having
the
like
having
like
debates
right
or
some
sort
of
like
what
impos.
What
do
we
do
with
politics
when
people
are
like
hey
vote
for
me,
you
know
vote
for
my
parameters.
You
know
how
do
we?
How
do
we
give
people
a
platform
that
would
be.
C
C
If
you
want
to
be
one
of
the
people
to
submit
an
issue
to
wesley
I'll
also
submit
a
few?
But
if
there's
anyone
here
that,
like
I
don't
know,
say
something
and
then
I
can
coordinate
and
we
can
all
send
to
the
same
repo
and
tag
him
and
book
a
session.
J
I
feel
a
little
bit
unclear
in
my
head,
but
I
want
to
say
yes,
I
probably
have
something
I
could
add
what
it
is
right
now.
I
have
to
formulate
it,
but
you
can
add
me
to
that.
J
E
There
are
a
lot
of
interesting
issues
here
already,
in
fact,
dan
finlay,
who
is
quite
the
token
engineer,
seems
to
have
opened
a
bunch
last
year.
E
So
it
might
be
interesting
to
to
read
some
of
the
issues
that
are
already
in
there
too.
E
And
praise
to
ygg
for
already
making
an
issue.
C
E
E
C
Okay,
okay,
so
let's
continue
the
the
conversation
and
if
anyone
has
questions
or
if
something
pops
up
about
token
log
and
about
the
voting
experience,
how
it
was
and
even
now
that
everyone
will
be
voting,
maybe
some
other
things
will
come
up
and
try
thinking
about
the
parameters,
how
they
will
work
and
anything
that
emerges
we
we
can
talk
to
wesley
and
post
issues
and
you
can
anyone
can
reach
out
anytime.
C
So
how
are
people
getting
paid
for
the
work
they're
doing
rewarded
for
the
work
they're
doing
post
hatch,
that
things
will
be
a
little
bit
different.
So
I
shared
here
a
few
stepping
points
that
we
can
start
working
with,
and
I
linked
this
issue
there
because
we
can
coordinate
in
here.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
easier,
so
research,
other
communities
how
they
do
it.
How
does
one
hive
metagame
primed
out?
C
I
don't
know
all
of
them
all
of
the
dows
that
we
have
in
our
ecosystem
that
we
are
part
of
that
we've
been
playing
with
what
is
what
is
their
status
on
rewards
and
what
can
we
learn
from
them
and
then
discussing
the
pros
and
cons
of
each
point-
and
I
posted
a
few
of
them
here,
but
if
you
have
other
suggestions
or
other
points
that
we
could
use,
please
feel
free
to
edit
or
to
comment
on
this
issue,
so
using
only
praise
and
source
cred
using
only
source
grant,
not
having
praise
and
source
credit
anymore.
C
If
consensus
isn't
achieved
that,
we
would
use
them
having
a
plan
for
how
to
request
funds
for
praise
and
source
credit
in
case
we
use
them.
C
C
Maybe
we'll
have
like
all
of
them
doing
something,
all
of
them
doing
something
else
or
a
mix
of
everything
and
what
are
all
what
are
the
other
possibilities
and
then
writing
about
the
options
in
the
forum.
So
we
can
make
informed
decisions.
They
don't
need
to
be
decisions
right
now,
but
we'll
make
them
in
the
future.
So
at
least
we'll
start
gathering
this
information
there.
C
M
Thank
you,
libby.
My
personal
view
is
that
we
should
start
with
something
that
we
are
really
familiar
with
and
that's
that's.
The
most
familiar
thing
is
praise
and
the
second
one,
although
we
haven't
implemented
it
yet
the
source
credit,
but
I
wouldn't
close
the
door
to
any
other
change
or
or
future
introduction.
M
I
mean
it
doesn't
have
any
sense
to
close
the
door.
We
don't
know
how
everything
is
going
to
evolve.
We
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
feel
comfortable
with
any
of
those
in
the
future.
So
far
it's
been
fine,
but
we
haven't
really
touched
money
yet.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
completely
different
story
when,
when
the
hatch
is
when
the,
when
the
dow,
the
final
law
is
up
and
running
and
and
we
need
to
experiment
and
need
to,
everyone
needs
to
feel
comfortable
with
any
system
that
we're
implementing.
M
E
Okay,
I
want
to
say
the
common
swarm
gets
paid
and
many
stewards
get
paid
through
the
common
stacks,
so
there
are
other
like
ways
of
funding,
and
generally
they
have
been
from
external
sources
almost
like
applying
for
grants
right
like
common
stack,
pays
people
and
then
but
and
then,
but
the
the
best
model
that
or
the
a
real
model
that
we
have.
That
is
almost
exactly
what
we're
gonna
end
up
with.
E
Is
the
common
storm
common
swarm,
create
a
proposal
to
conviction,
voting
got
it
got
funded
and
then
they
have
a
dow
or
we
have
a
dao
that
ends
up
paying
every
week
pays
people
out
based
off
of
hours
and
when
they
submit
their
hours,
they
also
do
it
in
dishing
praise.
So
they'll
actually
say:
exclamation
mark
dish,
praise
to
myself
for
three
hours
of
work
doing
this,
so
they
get
praise
and
they
get
paid
for
those
three
hours
at
an
hourly
rate.
E
So
at
least
there's
that,
as
as
an
example
as
a
model
that
we
could
that
we
could
use
for
when
we
want
to
actually
propose
for
more
complex
projects,
I'll
pass
it
to
me.
F
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
agree
with
both
griffey
and
santi
and
their
sentiments
towards
it.
You
know
keep
with
the
plans
that
we
have
in
place
right
now
and
but
stay
open
to
new
possibilities
and
new
ways
of
doing
things.
F
I
really
really
really
really
like
the
prairie
system,
just
for
its
connection
to
intrinsic
motivation
and
then
very
interested
in
reading
all
the
case
study
from
asia
from
that
so
it'll
be
interesting,
but
I
do
think
you
know
as
as
time
goes
on,
we
will
see
innovations
within
the
dow
space
in
general
that
will
relate
to
this,
and
I
think
that
you
know
as
long
as
we're
keeping
an
open
mind
and
we
don't
you
know,
set
anything
into.
F
You
know
stone
as
far
as
like
compensating
people
who
contribute
to
the
advancement
of
token
engineering
and
and
through
the
commons
forum,
I
think
it'd
be
a
really
good
option.
So
outside
of
that,
I
don't
have
many
thoughts.
I
think
it's
a
very
interesting
topic
that
I
think
we
will
continue
to
build
on
as
it
evolves
so
I'll
pass
to
marco.
I
Thanks
nate,
I
just
want
a
second
everything
that
santi
said
and,
and
you
made
as
well-
also
pray.
I
really
like
the
praise
thing,
and
I
think
this
is
this
should
be
like
number
one
thing:
source
cred.
We
should
also
consider
how
are
we
gonna
adjust
those
parameters
and
how
we're
gonna
track
and
what
we're
gonna
be
tracking
and
there
there
are
a
bunch
of
issues
that
source
credit
has
for
for
actually
tracking
the
work
and.
I
Allocating
those
credits
to
contributors
and
then
we
should
definitely
really
really
carefully
think
about
how
we're
gonna,
how
we're
gonna
do
that
and
just
wanna
add
one
more
thing
in
my
I
experience
what
I
have
with
pampa
fellows
and
pawala
fellows.
It
is
a
small
group
of
people
who
work
on
all
kinds
of
stuff
to
to
move
benwall
forward,
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
is
what
we
do.
I
We
have
like
this
kind
of
a
bucket
of
funds
that
we
basically
every
every
two
weeks
we
just
take
out
of
take
out
money
from
that
wallet
of
how
much
work
we've
done
and
there's
an
excellent
sheet,
and
we
just
add,
like
the
hours
that
we
worked
and
one
person
just
keeps
track
of
that
and
distributes
the
funds
every
two
weeks.
I
It
was
an
experiment
and
it
kind
of
worked.
Maybe
it
worked
with
a
smaller
group
of
people,
but
definitely
something
also
to
consider
yeah.
I
pass
it
on.
I
don't
know
who's
not
gone
yet.
L
Yeah,
I
think
it's
a
really
interesting.
It's
just
a
really
interesting
question
and
I
have
a
bias,
maybe
for
continuing
as
it
is,
but
then,
on
the
other
hand,
there
are
so
many
innovations
and,
like
you
know,
superfluid
with
their
streaming.
You
know,
like
I
just
think,
there's
so
much
to
explore
and
that
it
probably
is,
is
going
to
be
very
interesting
as
we
learn
how
like
the
model
that
marco
expre
just
explained
and
other
models,
and
then
we
can.
I
don't
hear
tam.
Is
it
just
me.
C
You
just
need
to
re-download,
I
mean
leave
and
come
back
to
the
to
the
car
room.
J
L
Problem,
I
think
it's
gonna
be
very
interesting
to
dig
into
it
and
to
look
at
existing
models
and
to
look
at
experimental
models
and
then
come
to.
You
know,
have
a
have
a
discussion
around
what
works
best
for
the
tec.
So
I
actually
really
look
forward
to
it.
But
I
have
no
opinion
until
I've
looked
at
how
we,
the
output,
the
options
are
and
the
impact
of
those
options
and
I'll
pass
to
katie.
Oh
she's,
yeah
katie.
J
P
A
pass
to
juan
carlos.
B
Thank
you
katie.
Well,
I
think
that
one
of
the
best
things
of
praise
is
not
only
like
the
distribution
of
impact
hours,
but
also
it
somehow
like
distributes
recognition
and
makes
like
everyone
can
see
what
the
others
are
doing
and
through
the
like
reading
phrases.
B
So
yeah
I
like
a
lot
praises,
and
maybe
it
would
be
good
to
to
to
get
to
know
more
about
the
strategy
of
of
common
swarm,
because
that
that's
like
the
long-term
idea
that
I
have
for
gravity,
but
I
still
like,
don't
know
the
step-by-step
process
of
of
how
is
it
going
to
be
like
applied,
and
I
will
pass
to
mateo.
C
We
are
on
the
top
of
the
hour
so
who
needs
to
go?
Please,
oh,
and
and
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
and
we'll
finish
the
round
and
finish
the
call
and
if
anyone
has.
D
D
And
I
believe
that
the
middle
point-
or
maybe
the
merge
between
those
two
tools
who
would
have
to
bring
us
really
good
innovations
to
us,
for
example,
the
innovation
initiatives
feature.
That's
interested
is
working
on
really
interesting
because
you
could
set
like
for
the
task
or
for
a
yeah.
Let's
say
a
task:
you
could
assign
a
certain
weight,
a
certain
value
to
the
source
red
graph,
and
if
it's
completed
you
can
assign
they
call
them
a
champion,
but
it's
in
reality
are
responsible
for
the
task.
D
A
Thank
you,
mateo.
I
have
different
thoughts
like
one
of
them.
It's
like.
I
really
want
to
keep
the
praise,
because
it's
so
it's
amazing
we
all
know,
but
what
about
like?
Like
the
word
like
it's
being
done
for
the
tc,
we
just
keep
using
price
and
source
credit
and
not
that
much
using
the
funding
pool
for
the
working
groups
and
use
more
the
funding
pools
for
the
proposals.
Yeah,
that's
my
that's!
This
is
my
thought
yeah
I
just
want
if
people
think
about
it
and
yeah
I'll
pass
it
to.
A
C
A
And
then
the
working
like,
because
if
we
do
like
the
other
way,
maybe
it
would
be
like
you
know
like
I
feel
it's
too
much
like,
then
you
would
have
to
quantify
the
price
and
see
all
the
members
from
the
working
groups
doing
half
of
the
price,
and
I
I
feel
yeah
I
really
like
how
we
are
going
now
and
and
yeah,
using
the
funding
pools
for
the
proposals.
G
Sure
so,
firstly,
I
mean
obviously
I
don't
really
know
the
systems
here
that
well
that
you
currently
have,
and
I'm
sure
particular
reasons
for
those
choices.
G
And
but
one
thing
that
I
do,
I
can
see
the
simplicity
of
putting
things
into
hours
because
that's
very
easily
kind
of
manageable
from
an
admin,
and
I
I
I
struggle
a
little
bit
sometimes
with
hours,
because
sometimes
I
think
that
the
value
and
impact
is
hard
to
measure
in
hours.
G
G
How
much
time
you
put
in,
is
how
much
worth
that
you're
giving
and
my
feeling
is
that
it
feels
a
bit
more
nuanced
than
that
in
reality,
I
I
can
see
how
that
can
make
things
a
little
bit
more
complicated
if
we're
perhaps
asking
people
to
share
what
they
think
their
value
is
say,
but
I
think
it's
I've
seen
that
work
really
well
where
people
say
you
know
this
week
or
this
month.
G
I
And
and
that's
something
close
sorry
that
that's
something
close
to
the
the
fellow
example
that
I
gave
it's
really
something
close
to
that.
Basically,
you
know
every
two
weeks
or
by
the
end
of
the
month
you
just
go
in
there
and
say
this
is
how
much
I
work.
This
is
how
much
I
value
my
work
and
basically
just
get
you
know,
get
paid
for
that.
I
F
Yeah,
I
was
gonna,
add
one
more
thing
too,
if
I
could,
because
I
do
think
that
both
of
them
have
their
benefits
or
their
trade-offs
for
each
style
and
philosophy.
F
If
you
take
like
zeptimus's
approach
of
like
where
you
know
you
have
the
working
groups
that
are
funded,
and
then
you
fund
out
the
individual
tasks
within
those
working
groups
and
value
those
tasks
to
follow
kind
of
an
organizational
pursuit.
I
think
it's
really
well
in
getting
things
done.
However,
it
costs
a
lot
of
administrative
overhead,
there's
a
lot
of
monitoring,
that's
required
and
and
with
like
kind
of
the
common
swarm
philosophy
you
you
get
rid
of
that
overhead
and
it's
more
transparent.
F
It's
more
open,
it's
more
dialogue
between
community
members,
and
so
I
think,
a
really
a
mixed
strategy
going
forward
would
probably
be
the
best
route
at
the
moment
until
you
know
we
figure
out
what
the
needs
are
for
the
tec
as
a
commons
is
because
I
think
when
you
have
the
administrative
approach
where
you
have
those
working
groups
and
stuff,
you
can
get
a
lot
done
very
quickly,
not
to
say
that
we're
that
type
of
commons,
where
we're
going
to
be
aggressive
and
spending
money
like
crazy,
just
to
get
things
done,
but
you
know
it.
C
Great
that
was
really
helpful
to
have
all
this
feedback,
please,
if
you
have
any
more
ideas
put
in
the
agenda
or
in
the
issue,
and
we
can
continue
exploring
this.
Thank
you
so
much.
Everyone.