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B
C
B
Oh,
my
god,
that's
a
difficult
one
if
I
could
be
anywhere,
but
now
where
I
am
right
now,
I
think
somewhere
with,
like
blue
water,
warm
weather,
a
coconut
in
my
hands
like
just
chilling
in
the
sun
like
a
paradise
beach,
I
think
I
could
teleport
to
that.
No,
what
about
you
huanka.
D
I
don't
know
I
just
thought
of
cusco,
I
really
liked
it.
It
was
beautiful.
I
will
pass
it
to
acid
laser.
E
A
G
H
I
would
go
to
my
mom's
house
in
canada
because
I
miss
my
mom,
my
family.
I
haven't
seen
them
in
a
couple
years
and
I'll
pass
it
to
ryder.
I
I
J
J
To
you
know
be
on
now
that
wind
is
coming
on
a
very
in
a
north
country.
I
don't
care
like
russia,
findland,
sweden
and
just
get
my
morning
walkings
on
the
snow.
This
is
yeah.
J
I
love
that
I'll
pass
it
to
town.
K
K
C
Probably
on
an
off-track
thoroughbred,
because
I'm
kind
of
picky
about
my
horses
and
not
just
any
horse
will
do
and
let
me
see
olivia
have
you
gone
livy.
I
don't
remember
hearing.
H
F
Anyways
man,
it's
such
a
hard
question.
I
guess
my
my
probably
also
with
my
family
in
spokane.
I
haven't
seen
my
nephews
in
a
little
bit
and
my
brother
just
got
engaged
yesterday,
so
I
had
a
phone
call
with
them
and
I
really
miss
miss
the
family
out
there
and
oh
and
my
grandma's
like
yeah.
You
know
all
these
old
people
that
need
that.
I
really
want
to
see
and
I'll
pass
it
to
edu.
L
Thank
you.
Mine
is
a
combination
of
family
and
septimus.
I
would
love
to
take
my
two
nephews,
who
are
seven
and
five
for
the
first
time
to
the
snow.
L
I
would
love
to
see
their
expression
for
the
first
time
when
they
touch
it,
see
it
and
feel
it
because
it
will
be
the
only
time
it
will
be
like
that.
So
I
would
love
to
be
in
that
moment
and
I
will
pass
it
on
to
nate.
M
Sorry
I
came
late.
What
was
the
question.
M
That's
a
great
question.
I
would
if
I
wasn't
here
right
now,
I
would
probably
be
out
walking
in
the
city
of
oakland.
A
Well,
if
I
wasn't
here
where
I
am
right
now,
I'd
rather
be
down
south
hanging
out
with
griffin
lauren
next
to
the
beach
with
the
coconut,
probably
hot
temperature.
You
know
just
check
all
the
boxes,
so
that
would
be
my
vote
and
cyber
rabbit.
Have
you
gone.
B
N
N
E
B
Okay,
cool
okay:
now
we
can
start,
I
was
thinking
I
was
having
a
very
hands-on
session
today.
B
B
So
here
this
is
the
thing
I
posted
in
the
forum
on
the
feedbacks
we
had
one
from
jeff
was
that
it
would
also
be
great
to
have
visuals
and,
and
then
gideon
had
a
good
question
about
like
oh,
why
don't
we
just
default
to
quadratic
voting,
for
example
like?
B
Why
do
we
need
to
have
all
different
types
of
votings
in
snapshot
and
in
zaptimize
wanka
iv,
and
I
we
worked
on
an
explanation
of
each
type
of
voting
and
why
we
should
use
them
that
it's
not
here
it's
in
the
post,
but
we
can
integrate
that
later
so
yeah.
I
was
just
thinking
that
we
could
like
jump
all
into
this
and
see
what
are
all
of
the
questions
comments,
ideas
to
improve.
B
I
hope
this
will
fly,
but
we
can
try
if
it
doesn't
work.
We
can
break
the
call
in
a
little
bit
and
revisit
what
we're
doing,
but
I
think
if
we
all
jump
with
comments
there,
it
could
be
fun,
so
somebody
could
also
invite
some
music
into
the
room
and
we
can
have
just
the
word
sesh.
E
B
So
I
think-
and
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
cool
to
hear
from
everyone,
but
I
think
maybe
having
some
type
of
a
map-
and
I
was
talking
to
tim
about
it-
also
of
like
what
are
the
questions
we
need
to
make
to
understand
which
decision-making
process
we.
A
B
L
Sorry,
I'm
I'm
actually
confused.
You
recap
like
what
is
expected
from
us
to
to
do
in
a
document.
B
Yeah,
like
here,
for
example,
working
group
quality
consent
like
how
do
we
achieve
quality
like
I
can
put
this
in
a
comment
if
this
is
a
question
or
or
maybe
like,
this
would
be
good
in
this
type
of
way
like
how
would
this
be
visually
represented.
B
L
B
Okay
and
yeah,
especially
from
like
you,
raised
a
few
points,
do
I
do
from
the
last
voting
process,
so
it
would
be
really
cool
like
oh,
I
I
had
a
question
about
how
snapshot
worked
and
and
the
process
didn't
go
as
I
thought
it
would
go,
and
things
like
this
like.
How
can
we
all
gather
the
preoccupations
questions
and
comments
that
we
have.
K
When
we
were
talking
about
this,
I
wrote
down
and
I
can't
find
it
anymore,
but
just
a
decision
tree
for
and
I
don't
know
this
is
a
little
different,
but
it's
what
I
thought
might
be
useful
for
the
community
is
in
how
to
know
which
which
decision
making
to
use.
So
some
of
the
criteria
you
know
might
be.
Is
it
on
chain?
K
Yes,
and
then
you
would
use
you
know
you
would
sort
of
like
sort
of
follow
this
decision
tree
and
then
you
would
end
up
at
which
tool
or
which
process
to
be
used
based
on
certain
criteria,
and
I
thought
that
would
make
it
easier
for
people
in
the
community
to
sort
of
follow
what
follow
the
path
actually
to
to
reach
the
the
tool
or
process
that
should
be
used.
K
K
J
J
A
F
Should
I
jump
in
and
answer
that
or
I'm
sorry,
I'm
out
of
context,
yeah
conviction
voting
is
for
fund
management,
so
anytime
we
want
to
spend
money.
You
would
use
conviction
voting
anytime.
You
want
to
do
basically
anything
else.
You'd
use
dow
voting,
except
for
maybe
signaling.
You
can
signal
with
conviction
voting
as
well
just
about
ideas,
but
if
you
want
to
change
the
dao
infrastructure,
you
want
to
change
a
parameter
that
was
set
in
advance
and
let's
say
we
want
to
change
the
entry
tribute
or
exit
tribute
on
the
bonding
curve.
F
L
I
think
that
that's
a
very
good
starting
point
like,
for
example,
the
idea
of
structure
and
funds
and
then
based
on
that,
then
you
can
have
the
decision
tree
further
down
the
lane
in
when
you
go
to
structure,
for
example
the
structure
regarding
working
groups,
and
then
there
is
a
decision
or
a
process
for
decision
making
on
that
sense.
So
you
have,
if
it's
funds
then
do
that
if
it
is
a
structure,
then
do
this
and
then
follow
up
down
the
lane
with
the
consequences.
I
Yeah
so
there's
like
and
maybe
there's
a
tool
in
there
I'm
missing,
but
I
feel
like
the
tool
is
trust
like
if,
if
a
working
group
is
like
trying
to
make
a
decision-
and
it
feels
local
but
then
all
of
a
sudden,
it
becomes
bigger
and
it
becomes
more
infrastructural.
Then
we're
essentially
trusting
that
working
group
to
make
a
snapshot
or
make
that
like
to
put
it
in
the
right
place.
I
If
it's
not
going
to
be
decided
in
the
working
group
like
this
working
group,
for
example,
one
two
three
four:
six:
seven,
eight
nine
there's
like
12
people
here
and
we're
like
okay
with
12
people.
We
should
be
able
to
determine
that
this
is
a
local
or
a
non-local
issue
and
then
graduate
that
proposal
to
where
it
needs
to
go.
And
I
don't
see
that
represented
in
the
document.
But
I
also
like
I
just.
I
really
feel
like
it's
trust
and
trust
in
collective
yeah
presence.
B
B
Yeah,
it's
a
good
point
to
think
if
something
is
local
or
not,
and
to
have
that
as
the
first,
sometimes
it's
even
hard
to
identify
that
a
decision
needs
to
be
made
or
that
something
that
is
happening
is
a
decision
like
now
we're
kind
of
like
deciding
on
the
structure
of
like
the
infographic,
maybe
but
then
the
execution
of
that
yeah.
Maybe
when
there
is
a
doubt
about
something
then
like
when
the
solution
isn't
easy.
I
B
I
That
was
weird
and
another
thing
do
y'all
currently
make
decisions
in
your
working
groups
like
it
says
in
the
first
paragraph,
I'm
curious
if
that
already
is
happening.
L
Yeah,
for
example,
the
onboarding:
it's
a
decision
that
is
sort
of
being
taken
by
communities
and-
and
you
know,
but
I
think
yeah
there
is
there-
is
this.
I
think
this
part
of
making
clear
if
it's
a
local
or
or
not
local
issue
and
who
to
attend
to
it,
goes
again
in
path
decision
making.
L
You
know
which
path
you
take
for
decision
making
and
based
on
that,
then
you
will
have
a
result
of
what
will
be
the
action
that
you
need
to
take
and
I
think
visualizing
that
will
be
way
easier
for
everyone
to
understand.
Like
okay,
I
know
what
is
the
spectrum
of
my
of
this
decision
making
and
which
tool
I
need
to
use
to
execute
it.
I
I
wrote
this
on
the
on
the
dock,
but
I
was
asking
if
they
were
already
being
done
in
working
groups,
because
I'm
wondering,
if
there's
any
tools
needed
for
the
working
groups
to
come
to
decisions
like
like
hand,
signals
and
and
like
seeing
everybody
in
the
room,
either
in
a
chat
or
physically
to
like
see
like
their
engagement
and
participation
in
that
decision-making
process.
I
I
come
from
community
housing,
cooperatives
and
stuff,
and
we
I
was,
I
have
like
a
background
of
being
in
person
and
using
consensus
and
we
use
our
our
hands
or
tools
if
people
don't
have
what
they
need
with
their
hands
but
and
we
adapted
that
a
lot
in
source
code
as
well.
But
if
it's
not
something
like
that,
then
it's
more
like
rough
consensus
like
everyone
goes
yeah
yeah.
That's
that
sounds
good
yeah.
Let's
do
that.
You
know
no
way,
I'm
concerned
and
that's
the
same
thing.
I
It's
just
less
less
rules
you
know
kind
of
like
so
yeah.
I
guess
I
just
like.
I
put
the
two
cents
in
there
and
then,
if
there's,
if
people
want
to
do
follow-up
like
I
have
resources
to
offer.
Regarding
that,
I
both
can
offer
a
lot
of
resources,
and
I
know
organizations
that
could
like
help
train
people
and
stuff
for
them.
So
yeah.
B
Yeah
sounds
really
cool.
Thank
you.
Maybe
we
we
could
yeah
for
sure
implement
more
tools
and
even
the
way
we
yeah.
We
make
decisions
in
meetings,
because
I
think
so
far
it
has
been
very
organic
and
intuitive
somehow
and
then
feeling
when
something
needs
to
go
to
another
place,
but
maybe
the
feelings
will
start
getting
harder
and
harder.
When
there's
a
lot
more
people.
B
Also
would
be
good
to
hear
from
asset
laser
like
what
is
your
process
for
creating
something
or
if
what
would
be
like
helpful
for
you
to
know.
E
I
think
a
good
way
is,
for
example,
is
the
way
that
I'm
that
I
used
to
work
with
juanka.
E
E
B
Oh
yeah,
we
do
have
this
draft
and
then
maybe
we
can
try
this
decision
tree
idea.
That
tim
was
mentioning.
I
think
he
resonates
other
people
too,
so
we
can
set
up
these
questions
and
then
see
which
one
of
those
decision
making
processes
fall
under
each
answer.
K
So
it's
not
it's
just
like
something
to
start
with,
but
as
we
were
talking
about
sort
of
like-
and
I
think
this
is
already
outdated
step.
One
was
advice
process
and
then
determining
whether
as
a
cultural
decision
and
cultural
decisions
would
be
sort
of
resolved
on
snapshot,
but
funding
or
smart
contract
decisions
would
have
to
go
straight
to
the
dow
and
then,
as
we
sort
of
talked
about
it.
K
K
Snapshot
would
also
be
used
if
we
needed
a
rank
vote
to
send
to
the
dow
so
like,
if
you
needed.
If
you
wanted
to
use
rank
voting
in
order
to
get
the
top
solutions
to
send
to
the
dow
for
vote,
then
we
would
use
snapshot
and
then
go
to
the
dow.
K
Any
funding
from
the
from
the
dow
or
smart
contract
change
would
go
straight
to
the
dow
and
then
multiple
proposals
would
go
to
token
log
so
that
if
you
had
to
choose
between
a
bunch
of
different
proposals,
that
would
be
the
tool
that
you
could
use
to
then
choose
the
final
proposal
of
the
proposals
added
and
that
was
sort
of
just
thinking
about
like
how.
If
somebody
has
a
decision
to
make,
how
do
they
follow
where
they
should
end
up?
That
was
the
hope
of
that.
B
Well,
I
I
was
thinking
we
could
write
all
of
the
things
in
the
in
the
doc,
but
maybe
maybe
we
can
do
that
async
and
we
can
have
like
a
last
round
of
of
sharings
of
just.
B
How
how
have
we
been
experiencing
the
decision
making
process
now
and
then
we
can
maybe
end
the
call
earlier
or
have
any
updates
that
in
the
proposals
that
are
coming
sorry,
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
in
the
agenda
today,
bye
I'll
pass
I'll
pass
to
durga
das,
for
you
to
just
share
a
little
bit.
What
is
your
experience
with
the
decision
making
process
and
if
you
have
some
questions
like
you
were
saying,
you
had
less
time.
O
O
What's
going
on,
I
just
from
the
limited
view
of
things,
I'm
concerned
with
calms
and
gravity
those
those
working
groups
are
good,
although
I
will
say
you
know,
in
terms
of
you
know
like
whoever
just
decided
to
randomly
change
the
password
for
one
thing,
but
now
we
can't
get
in
and
we
don't
know
who
it
is
this
type
of
thing.
So,
like
there's
stuff
like
that,
that
happens,
and
so
you
know
part
of
the
that's.
O
That
was
part
of
the
reason
why
I
brought
up
the
proposal
about
maybe
having
like
a
a
layer
of
folks
who
are
like
basically
just
cis
admins,
whose
job
is
to
kind
of
maintain
and
run
those
things.
And
so
you
know
it's
from
from
that
that
sort
of
came
and
in
terms
of
decision
making.
O
You
know
all
the
other
technical
things
that
the
dao
is
doing,
and
so
on
that
that's
not
up
to
me
and
it's
not
my
interest,
but
you
know
from
my
particular
expertise,
is:
is
in
system
administration
and
in
system
administration
you're
a
little
like
a
banker
you're
caring
for
other
people's
infrastructure
instead
of
their
money
so
like
so,
I
feel
like
we
need
a
layer
of
people
that
do
that,
not
just
people
who
are
pushing
things
forward.
O
You
know
people
who
are
sort
of
holding
down
the
fort
people
are
good
at
that
and
then,
at
the
same
time
you
know
you
know,
establishing
those
things
for
each
working
group,
I
think,
would
be
really
useful,
but
in
terms
of
decision
making,
I
I
that's
about
all
I
really
have
to
say
I
think
we're
doing
a
lot
of
good
stuff
at
the
top.
I
just
I
just
feel
like
we're
missing
some
of
that
underlying
infrastructure
care.
F
I
can
take
it.
I
I
personally
think
like
I
love,
I
love
the
collaborative
decision
making
process,
but
I
feel
like
it
always
needs
a
leader
and
like
for
a
decision
to
happen,
someone's
got
to
have
a
need
for
that
decision
to
happen
and
like
I,
I
really
like
any
kind
of
decision-making
process
that
is
clear
up
front
right.
Okay,
the
dow
will
spend
money
if
conviction,
voting,
da-da-da
right,
but
who's
leading
that
proposal.
F
Someone's
someone
is
like
saying:
hey,
I'm
gonna
make
this
proposal
and
I
think
it
should
happen,
and
this
is
why
and
you
it's
almost
always
one
person
and
it's
this
weird
like
it's
this
weird
dynamic,
but
I
I
have
a
lot
of
challenges
when
we
try
too
hard
to
do
collective
decision
making
without
without
a
clear
structure
like
deciding
how
to
decide
in
advance.
When
that
is
not
clear
everything
falls
apart.
You
know
it
with
collective
decision
making.
F
F
How
is
the
decision
going
to
be
made
if
there's
a
lot
of
people
giving
input
like
with
advice
process,
it's
usually
like
well,
one
person
is
making
the
decision.
However,
they
decide
to
make
it
but
they're
seeking
advice.
When
it's
a
dow
vote,
then
it's
like
well
what
support
is
required
for
it
to
pass,
and
how
is
how
are
we
calculating
it?
F
Is
it
quadratic
voting
or
is
it
not
like
all
those
things
need
to
be
decided
in
advance,
and
so
sometimes
when
like,
for
instance,
the
praise,
the
praise
debate,
we
had
that
polarity
clause.
Thank
god
we
had
that
clause
in
there.
You
know
it
really
saved
us,
but
it
because
we
decided
how
to
decide
in
advance,
and
we
added
that
you
know.
F
Otherwise
we
would
have
been
stuck
in
them
in
the
middle,
so
deciding
how
to
decide
is
really
important
before
the
decision
is
made
and-
and
personally
I
like
having
every
decision
process
having
a
champion.
Sometimes
it's
the
person
who
proposed
it.
But
if
it's
a
group
thing
that
doesn't
have
like
a
direct
benefit,
you
still
need
someone
like
when
for
75
percent
it
was
like
septimus
and
tam,
pushing
it.
You
know
or
sorry
it
was
wonka.
Wonko
was
pushing
the
75
percent
for
the
for
the
burn.
F
It
was
septimus
and
tam
or
holding
the
flag
you
know
and
carrying
it
through
so
yeah.
I
really
appreciate
those
processes.
Speaking
of
deciding
how
to
decide
and
speaking
of
decisions,
this
is
kind
of
a
different
agenda
topic,
but
I
don't
know
if
we'll
have
time
at
the
end
to
discuss
it,
but
prams
kind
of
needs.
The
number
for
how
much
the
initial
buy
will
be.
It
would
be
really
inconvenient
to
not
have
that
number
or
have
it
change
while
we're
doing
the
economic
designs
it'd
be
much
cleaner.
F
If
we
knew
that
we
were
going
to
spend
200k
in
the
initial
buy,
even
though
we
don't
know
exactly
where
it's
going
to
go
or
whatever
I
don't
know
the
those
the
the
details
around
deciding
how
to
decide.
Is
that
that's
outside
of
my
needs?
But
I
do
need
that
number
real
bad
and
I
would
say,
like
within
three
weeks
I
would-
or
I
I
would.
F
I
think
the
dow
would
benefit
that
commons
would
benefit
if
we
had
that
number
within
three
weeks,
so
that
when
we're
in
full
swing
of
the
parameterization,
we
know
how
much
money
is
going
into
that
buy
and
we
can
design
it
into
the
bonding
curve
that
that
concept
so
yeah
anyway.
That's
off
topic
and
maybe
an
agenda
point
at
the
end
I'll
pass
it
to
writer.
I
O
I
F
So
no,
we
can't
make
it
in
this
call,
but
okay,
mitch
and
zeptimus
and
olivia
there's
like
a
bunch
of
people
who,
okay.
I
Okay,
thank
you
yeah.
We
don't
need
to
get
into
it,
but
it
was
now
like
I'm
a
doomer,
so
I
was
like
I
could
facilitate
a
call
right
now,
but
that
I
wanted
to-
and
I
saw
you
two
dergados,
but
what
griff
and
dergus
were
saying
feel
like
kind
of
the
same
thing
for
me
like
when
the
kind
of
care
work
that
they're
together
is
talking
about,
like
that
administrative,
like
film,
that
is
like
a
layer
to
the
org
to
me,
like
is
also
like.
I
It
is
like
the
password
keepers,
the
calendar
schedulers,
the
like
the
note
takers,
good
you're
nodding.
I
like
that
the
the
facilitators
and
facilitators
aren't
always
just
like
guides
through
letting
people
talk.
They're
also
like
cool,
like
you've
talked
enough.
Now
we're
gonna
have
this
person
they
kind
of
they're,
not
cutthroat,
but
they
this
like.
They
get
the
thing
moving
and
they're
kind
of
that.
I
If,
if
they're
their
technology,
like
facilitation
and
consensus,
is
a
technology
that
can
be
used
to
make
collaborative
decision
making
more
tight
and
effective
and
they're
the
ones
that
you
know,
you
work
with
the
facilitator
to
make
the
agenda
with
the
leaders
of
the
bullet
points.
I
don't
know
how
much
you
guys
are
already
doing
this,
but
I've
heard
people
talking
about
sociocracy,
for
example,
I'm
not
like
the
kind
of
person
who's
like
cool.
I
I
That's
you
know
also
in
the
working
group
like
they
make
sure
you
have
all
those
pieces
that
so
that
you
know
how
you're
going
to
make
the
decision
like
griff
was
saying,
and
anyway
in
the
question,
it's
like
what
where's
your
my
like
expertise
is
in
small
group
decision
making,
but
it's
not
in
you
know
getting
a
large
organization
to
all
start
using
it
like
I'm
not
like.
I
O
I
was
just
hoping
to
do
a
quick
follow-up
after
because
what
griff
said
initially
agreed
with
me.
I
was
just
you
know
when
we're
talking
about
decision
process
in
in
many
ways.
Not
only
do
we
need
a
champ
in
terms
of
like
the
working
group,
but
we
also
need
to
be
able
to
sort
of.
I
keep
pushing
this
connection
framework
too,
but
we
almost
need
a
a
champion
for
like
what
part
of
this
decision
is
clear.
What
part
of
this
decision
requires
an
expert.
A
A
O
This
would
also
work
in
terms
of
gravity,
to
sort
of
proactively
put
some
processes
in
place
so
that
there
are
certain
conflicts
that
don't
take
place.
What
is
it
that's
complex
about
this?
What
is
it
that
we're
building
the
road
while
driving
the
car?
What
is
it
that's?
You
know
experimental
about
this.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
so
I
think
in
many
ways
or
what's
chaotic
about
this,
it
would
sure
be
nice.
O
I
think
if
we
were
to
sort
of
line
out
parts
of
our
decision-making
in
those
terms,
because
then
we
could
have
a
clearer
sense
of
you
know:
proportionality
of
response.
So
that's
all.
I
want
to
say.
B
A
I
think,
a
real,
maybe
a
problem
that
has
been
happening
is
that
we
do
have
all
of
these
processes
and
what
is
the
step-by-step
to
use
any
of
them.
But
maybe
we
haven't
been
feeling
so
like
the
full
agency
of
taking
a
decision
of
having
one
person
taking
the
decision
in
an
advice
process,
because
a
lot
of
these
proposals
were
started
in
advice
process,
and
maybe
this
one
is
one
of
them
like
how
to
get
a
final
number
for
the
economic
design.
B
I
think
this
one
wasn't
there
a
problem
of
kind
of
like
the
chicken
and
the
egg
image
of
how
much
like
that.
We
couldn't
know
the
number
until
the
settings
of
the
parameters
were
kind
of
there
or
that
that
was
something
like
very
likely.
A
Am
I
back
now
sorry,
my
internet
cut
out
yep
yeah
grip
clarified
that
actually
a
bit
earlier
today,
because
we're
going
to
be
taking
those
funds
up
before
we
do
the
commons
upgrade
so
we'll
be
able
to
just
take
an
arbitrary
amount
without
having
to
decide
a
lot
of
things
related
to
it.
Like
the
commons
tribute
and
all
that.
D
Why
don't
we
make
a
snapshot
vote
for
that
and
we
just
put
several
options
like
five
percent:
seven
percent,
eight
percent,
ten
percent-
and
that
way
people
can
vote
on
this-
and
we
have
this
like
a
participatory
decision.
F
Acceptance
is
bringing
this
up
in
the
params.
Call
that
it's
not
just
it's
about
what
okay,
so
we
decide
what
to
do.
We
decide
how
much,
but
then,
where
does
that
money
go
who's
in
control
of
it?
What
is
its
intention?
You
know
it's
these.
These
are
the
parts
like
how
much
goes
to
a
reward
system.
Let
me
just
say
throwing
money
in
a
pot
without
a
clear
intention.
Just
causes
way
more
problems
since
worth
you
know
it's
just
like
I
was
like.
F
Oh,
I
thought
we
were
going
to
use
it
for
this
and
no
no,
no,
oh
god,
please
don't!
No,
so
it's
probably
better
off
to
either
have
to
have
a
clear
like
deciding
how
to
decide
right
if
it's
just
going
to
a
group
of
you
know
six
people
and
they're
gonna
like
duke
it
out
to
figure
out
where
it
goes.
Okay,
that's
cool!
As
long
as
that's
clearly
outlined,
or
if
there's
like,
oh
you
know,
we
need
50k
for
the
reward
system.
F
We
need
50k
for
future
token
swaps
and
we
need
50k
for
this
and
we
need
50k
for
that.
F
Okay,
cool,
that's
also
cool,
but
there's
I
think,
having
the
framework
of
what
to
do
with
that
money
and
then
making
a
budget
for
it
is
probably
the
direction
to
go
and
if
it's,
even
if,
if
if
we
want
to
do
like
okay,
here's
the
percentages
on
what
we'll
do
with
this
money
community
now
vote,
we
can
actually
add
it
into
the
dashboard
even,
but
I
would
prefer
to
keep
it
out,
keep
the
dashboard
scope
smaller
forget.
F
I
said
that
I
take
it
back,
don't
we
can't
add
it
to
the
dashboard,
but
it's
already
there
it's
in
the,
but
it's
in
the
advanced
settings.
So
ideally
we
just
have
that
decided
in
its
own
process,
and
we
just
know
what
number
to
put
in
so
that
when
we're
playing
with
the
bombing
curve,
we
know
exactly
how
much
money
we
we
have
to
play
with.
F
J
J
So
we
make
sure
like
you
know,
and
the
mission
of
these
people
it
should
be
just
execute
whatever
the
community
decides
and
then,
if
we
even
like
yeah,
I
I
at
the
beginning
I
had
this,
you
know
we
have
this
money
for
there's
any
management
and
the
intention
is
like
make
it
participatory
and
the
multisig
only
should
do
what
the
poll
says
on
discord,
snapshot
or
whatever
and
yeah,
and
I
think
we
shouldn't
choose.
Who
is
the
trust
people?
J
I
Segment,
I
wish
I
had
more
context
because
I
I
was
the
person
who
was
the
I
was
the
champion
of
getting
our
multisig
set
up.
That
was
the
first
collective
decision
that
we
made,
but
sorry,
you
said
olivia,
you
kind
of
filled
me
in
that
you
all
aren't
even
sure
if
you
want
a
multi-stick
signer.
I
love
the
chaos
of
this
call.
By
the
way
like
this
is
fun.
It's
like
so
much
information
being
tossed
around
like
it
all
needs
to
be
said.
I
B
Well,
I
I
didn't
understand
the
full
part
like
having
a
multi-sig
to
execute
on
communities.
Decisions
would
be
one
of
the
routes
to
take
right
is
optimus,
or
why
would
it
have
a
multi-seg
instead
of
instead
of
just
having
the
doubt,
make
that
that
decision.
J
Because
if
you
want
to
get
like
a
lot
of
fun,
let's
say
you
want
to
move,
I
don't
know
we
have
to
decide
these
numbers
but
you're
going
to
200.
I
was
talking
that
with
yesterday
like
olympus
now
they
are
buying
liquidity
and
imagine
like
if
you
have
to
ask
like
200k
from
conviction
voting.
A
J
Having
this
money
splitted
and
then
the
community
is
voting,
how
it
works
and
the
multisig
only
the
only
mission
they
have
is
to
do
whatever
the
community
says
they
do
not
have
opinion
they
I
mean
their
opinion
is
as
much
as
their
tokens
are
so
and
yeah.
It's
I
don't
know.
Maybe
we
also
you
know,
wanna
put
some
money
in
arabic
and
the
community
wants
to
do
that.
L
Are
we
a
little
bit
like
it,
wouldn't
be
easier
for
everyone
to
sort
of
understand
this
decision-making
process
clarify
and
agree
upon
to
eventually
then
educate
everyone
and
having
the
same
level
of
knowledge,
or
at
least
consciousness
about
this
decision-making
process
before
jumping
into
who
should
vote,
who
shouldn't
vote
and
or
because
I
think
it
brings
more
confusion
to
the
table
whether
we
work
in
the
process,
we
collectively
work
in
the
process
of
how
we
want
this
decision
making
to
be
done,
then
collectively
we'll
be
able
to
explain
it,
execute
it
and
use
it
in
a
better
way.
L
So
yeah,
I
don't
know,
I
feel
like
this
sudden
change
of
conversation-
doesn't
help
the
decision-making
process
by
itself.
Yeah,
that's
meant
to
send
someone.
I
Since
we're
on
the
topic,
though,
is
if
we
can,
if,
if
with
some
of
the
time
left,
we
could
continue
to
educate.
Like
I'm
curious
how
you
currently
move
money,
we
don't
have
to
go
this
direction,
but
if
the
way
that
you're
currently
moving
money
isn't
working,
then
you
might
want
a
multi-stig
in
order
to
move
money
in
that
way,
and
the
pros
that
I
see
to
a
multi-sig
are
there's
a
layer
of
like
review.
I
So,
like
I
mean
we
have
like
a
two
of
five,
so
two
people
have
to
sign
on
to
that
transaction
for
it
to
go
through,
the
cons
can
be
like,
if
you
don't
have
a
second
person
available
and
you
like
need
to
move
money
and
also
with
two
people,
there's
more
potential
for
technical
issues
to
arise
on
their
personal
devices
and
yeah
I'll
stop
there.
I
But
if
folks
want
to
educate
me-
and
I
if
I
feel
educated,
I
feel
like
I
can
help
know
where
the
decision
process
should
go,
because
I
feel
like
I'm
kind
of
good
at
deciding
decision
making
processes.
But
I
need
to
know
what's
going
on
and
what
the
needs
of
the
community
are.
J
I
think
money
shouldn't
be
moving,
you
know
like
lightly,
and
you
know
we
should
have
ideally
okay,
we're
moving
this,
this
money
and
let's
say
for
three
months
or
whatever
and
people
should
be.
I
don't
think
like
someone
should
like
you
were
saying
before
like
oh,
we
need
to
do
this
now.
I
feel
we
should
take
it
lightly
and
you
know
both
and
be
very
cautious
with
decisions
of
that
type.
I
Let
me
let
me
clarify
when
I
say
move
this
now
I
mean
okay,
you
select,
for
example,
let's
say
you
set
up
a
weekly,
you
use
source,
cred
and
then
you're
going
to
be
distributing
tokens
weekly.
Someone
needs
to
do
that
and,
if
you're
choosing
to
do
it
with
a
multi
sit
like,
maybe
I'm
actually
just
thinking
about
off
chain
distribution,
so
I
could
be
confused.
But
let's
say
in
your
example
as
optimus
that
you're
taking
from
what
I
said
that
the
we
need
to
do.
I
I
Yeah
they
feel
like
the
accountants
of
of
the
tao,
and
it
sounds
like
I'm
nowhere
near
what
you
guys
would
want,
because
I'm
not
a
hatcher
and
I'm
not
like
a-
and
I
haven't
been
here
very
long,
but
I
love
accounting,
and
so
I
would
be
interested
in
doing
that
and
only
with
a
team.
I
think
that
it's
terrible
for
one
person
to
be
responsible
for
for
treasury
actions.
H
B
In
this
proposal,
and
just
have
yeah
identify
a
way
to
make
this
decision
of
how
much
is
gonna,
be
this
final
number.
B
F
J
I
H
5
p.m.
Europe
time.
J
A
F
Weird
one-off
thing
that
we're
going
to
use
to
to
fund
a
lot
of
different
projects
and
one.