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A
I
think
the
only
challenge
is
just
like
finding
it's
always
hard
finding
times
that
everybody
can
can
agree
on.
But
maybe
you
just
you
know
you
get
some
good
protocols
on
how
to
find
times
and
you
just
say
like
we'll
try.
You
know
like
try
our
best
to
accommodate
everybody's
schedule,
and
you
know
maybe
not
everybody
can
make
particular
times
and
that's
okay,
it's
just
like,
or
maybe
I
don't
know
how
you
do
it,
but
that's
the
only
risk
I
can
see,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
idea.
B
B
Yeah
but
there's
one
ongoing
project
there,
but
then
there
was
this
idea:
ga
proposed
to
start
a
token,
a
junior
token
engineering
gathering
where
people
started
discussing
about
their
experiences
of
token
engineering
and
and
that's
just
an
open
discussion,
kind
of
thing
that
can
have
different
prompts
every
week
and
then
angela
suggested
his
acting
hey
and
angela's,
suggesting
bringing
over
to
the
tea
academy
discord.
And
then
we
had
a
brief
chat
of
like
oh.
That
would
be
really
great
for
the
tc
to
have
that
on
the
discord.
B
But
then
she
was
talking
about
how
there's
a
lot
that
has
been
what
it's
on
the
works
with
sample
and
she's
been
chatting
with
you
and
him
to
find
his
bridges
between
tea
academy
and
tc.
B
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
that
you
know
going
back
to
your
your
point
about
reducing
the
number
of
calls
I
do
feel
like
we
are
going
into
another
period,
though,
that
the
cultural
questions
are
gonna
start
to
become
very
important
like
as
that,
like.
Basically,
why?
Because
the
economic
layer
is
about
to
like
get
built
up,
you
know
it's.
A
B
For
sure
I
just
don't
know
what
is
the
best
shape
for
that
to
take
if
it's,
because
I
feel
like
less
and
less
like,
less
and
less
people
have
been
engaging
with
softcuff,
because
I
think
it's
something
it's
not
so
easy
to
jump
in
if
you're,
a
new
person,
because
usually
we're
talking
about
things
that
are
like
more
in-depth
issues
of
the
community.
B
So
maybe
there
are
other
ways
of
cultural
support
we
can
think
of.
I
think
maybe
a
a
study
group
could
be
a
good
idea
to
hold
to
to
be
grounding
and,
like
always,
there
kind
of
thing
and
then,
whenever
there
is
topics
that
are
affecting
the
community,
they
could
come
into
discussion
and
the
shape
of
this,
like
we've,
been
in-depth,
looking
into
governance
and
into
governance
in
relation
to
token
engineering
and
then
slowly
be
able
to
offer
solutions.
B
You
know
also
kind
of
like
capacity
build
the
te
governance
that
that's
what
I
was
thinking.
The
t
governance
guild
was
gonna
be
all
along,
but
I
think
we
had
different
ideas
of
it
and
and
then
today
clicked
for
me
like.
Oh,
it
would
be
really
great
to
have
people
discussing
governance
through
the
lenses
of
token
engineering.
A
B
I
think
I
was
thinking
more
of
the
second
and
angela
was
thinking
more
to
create
a
group
for
people
that
have
hard
skills
and
token
engineering
together
and
govern.
I
think
that
was
more
of
it.
You
know
like.
B
Yeah
be
kind
of
a
bridge
to
trainee
programs
and
and
have
projects
that
people
are
working
on
so
I
feel
like,
and
then
we
we
briefly
chatted
about
like
if
the
t
academy
is
doing
a
junior
token
engineering
debate
that
maybe
it
would
be
interesting
to
do
something
here.
That
is
like
governance
and
token
engineering
and
then
bring
softcup
more
in
this
direction.
B
But
I
don't
know
it's
just
just
a
thought.
C
Hi
everyone
I
just
I
just
I
was
listening.
I
just
wanted
to
to
share
with
you
libby
that
yeah
for
me
like
in
my
perspective,
I
think
soft
golf,
and
this
call
is
one
of
the
actually
most
important
calls
for
me
and
most
important
spaces.
I
think
it's
p,
because
it's
kind
of
like
a
space
where
things
can
be
really
important.
C
Things
can
be
talked
about
not
just
in
culture
but
in
governance
and-
and
I
feel
like
there
are
still
many
many
topics
around
the
community
that
they
need
to
be
talked
about
and
they
need
to
be
discussed,
and
I
I
feel
that
this
is
the
space
to
to
do
it.
C
Maybe
the
thing
is
that
maybe
it's
tricky
to
to
find
those
topics
right
and
then
maybe
have
people
coming
to
the
colon
and
discussing
them,
but
I
you
know,
that's
that's
kind
of
my
my
feeling
and
as
a
suggestion,
something
that
I've
been
thinking
about.
C
Based
on
there
was
this
the
the
sample
funding
proposal
post
on
the
on
the
forum
and
kojak.
I
don't
really
know
him.
I
just
saw
his
post
there.
He
was
suggesting
on
doing
for
the
tc
overall
swot
analysis.
You
know
like
looking
at
the
different
strengths,
weaknesses,
opportunities
and
threats
of
the
tc.
C
He
was
suggesting
that,
like
as
a
as
an
urgent
action
to
do
thinking
about
the
the
the
evolution
of
the
economic
layer
for
the
tc
that
first
we
we
should
have
these.
This
analysis
done
to
have
a
a
better
picture
on
the
situation
in
regards
to
economic
to
culture,
to
social
aspects,
to
governance
aspects
you
know,
so
I
just
thought
that
it
was
a
really
really
good
idea.
You
know
like
to
create
this.
C
This
thought,
analysis
and-
and
my
plan
was,
I
haven't,
been
able
to
to
to
contact
you
and
maybe
suggest
that
as
a
as
a
possible
activity-
and
I
think
from
that
analysis,
maybe
you
could
focus
or
this
this
group
could
focus,
especially
on
the
weaknesses,
rights
and
and
the
weaknesses
are
more
like
internal.
C
So
I
think
that
would
be
more
of
a
of
of
a
focus
for
the
group,
but
also
maybe
for
the
threats
that
are
more
external
to
the
tc
and
maybe
that's
a
way
to
start
gathering
the
different
topics
that
are,
you
know
like
around
the
community,
so
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
and
share
my
feeling
and
and
yeah.
I
think
this
this
group
is
is
really
really
important
for
everyone.
D
Yeah
to
keep
adding
on
this
like
how
to
also
get
like
more
people
joining
the
governance
crew
is
like
also
like
having
like
some
kind
of
incentive,
doesn't
have
to
be
financial,
but
you
know
like
when
you
come
to
soccer.
You
expect
to
analyze
decisions
that
can
affect
the
community
and
you
know
hear
from
everyone,
and
then
you
know
like
having
a
better
understanding
of
what's
going
on
and
how
to
yeah,
make
better
decisions
and
also
like
push
that.
D
I
think
that
would
be
something
like
bring
a
lot
of
participation
and
then
also,
I
also
wanted
to
say,
like
I
know
like
in
the
last
planning
you
should
like.
You
need
a
data
scientist
and
rex.
Actually,
like
is
who
is
he's
a
full-time
data
scientist
and
he
is
wanting
to
jump
a
full-time
crypto
before
the
end
of
the
year.
So
maybe
it's
for
having
a
chat
with
him.
D
B
Nice,
oh
thank
you
guys
for
saying
all
that.
That's
very
that's
very
important
for
me
to
hear
I
think
insightful
and
just
having
help
to
understand
what
is
the
best
direction
like
what
would
actually
benefit
the
community.
I
would
love
to
have
more
participation
in
the
strategic
thinking
of
soft
gov.
B
I
doubt
sometimes
that
my
perception
is
a
little.
I
think
I'm
I'm
doing
this
for
too
long.
You
know
like
I
don't
know
if
I
would
love
to
have
just
more
eyes
perspectives,
and
how
can
we,
so
this
was
really
great
that
you
said
there
of
like
important
topics
that
need
to
be
discussed
and
that
maybe,
as
a
group,
we
could
prepare
those
topics
for
being
discussed
understanding
how
they
should
be
discussed.
What
is
the
possible
impact
they
can
have
who
to
bring
to
the
conversation
how
to
frame
the
conversation?
B
Do
you
have
any
topics
you
have
in
mind
that,
like
is
there
anything
important?
You
would
like
to
talk
and
you
feel
like
there's
not
space
and
attention
necessary
for
it.
C
Yeah,
so
actually
I,
when
I
saw
that
kojak's
suggestion
I
thought
yeah.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea,
so
I
just
created
a
google
doc
and
started
working
on
on
this
swot
analysis
and
I
started
adding
the
different
topics
that
I
see
in
these
four
like
categories.
So
what
I
can
do
is
just
like
share
it
with
you
guys.
I
think
I
share
it
with
gideon
at
some
point.
C
C
Yes,
yes,
just
give
me
a
secret.
Thank
you.
C
A
C
Oh
yeah
no
worries
yeah,
I
I
I
think
it
was
a
good
thing.
It
was
on
my
to-do
list
to
also
share
it
with
levy,
because
I
think
it
was
really
good
good
idea
for
for
soft
gob,
but
yeah
yeah
no
worries,
I
know,
there's
that's
the
thing
right.
There's
also
ton
tons
of
things
happening
at
the
same
time,
and
sometimes
maybe
I
feel
not
enough
people
getting
involved.
So
we
need
to
prioritize
as
well
right
so.
B
B
How
do
you,
I
think,
because
I've
been
traveling
for
some
time
and
my
time
zone
changed,
and
now
it
has
been
happening,
a
lot
that
I'm
like
in
paradise
spaces,
and
then
I
can't
really
enjoy
them
or
like
put
them
on
my
flow
and
understand
that
that
could
will
probably
absolutely
actually
help
me
a
lot
to
be
coherent
on
my
thoughts
and
my
ideas
and
to
be
eloquent
to
be
connected
like
there
are
many
values
that
I
think
that
are
outside
of
the
screen
and
how
they
help
the
work
happening
and
and
how
can
we
integrate
more
of
that
into
or
at
least
that
was
a
question
I
was
having
for
myself,
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
guys
feel
the
same
if
you
feel
a
low
on
productivity
because
of
how
many
meetings
have
been
happening
or,
like
you
know,
having
time
to
just
like.
B
Oh,
I
wish
I
had
time
to
write,
or
I
wish
I
had
time
for
this
or
I
wish
I
had
time
for
that.
And
how
can
we
like
witness
the
lack
of
engagement,
that
meetings
have
been
having
and
maybe
some
meetings
have
more
engagement
than
others
but
like
who
are
the
people
that
are
always
coming?
How
can
we
introduce
different
proposals
for
how
to
engage
with
people
like
like
what
you
just
said?
You
know
like
this
is
something
interesting
and
maybe
kojak
would
never
make
it
to
this
meeting.
B
C
Yeah,
no,
I
I
completely
agree.
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
is
to
to
to
find
the
way
to
figure
out
like
the
levels
of
involvement
of
people
in
in
the
different
working
groups
and
and
the
time
and
the
energy
that
they
want
to
put
into
that.
I
think
that's
really
difficult
to
do,
especially
you
know
in
this
digital
way
that
we're
working
on
so
yeah.
I
think
it's
a
challenge
and
but
also
at
the
same
time,
I
I
also
think.
C
I
also
think
that,
if
we're
a
few
people,
I
think
that
could
also
be
kind
of
an
advantage
for
the
tc,
because
it's
easier
to
coordinate
and
to
actually
I'll
actually
get
things
done.
So
maybe
we're
not
getting
the
involvement.
We
think
we
should
for
a
reason
right,
and
maybe
it's
it's
a
good
thing.
Maybe
you
know
we're
getting
enough
time
to
actually
plan
things
out.
C
You
know
like
set
really
good
and
strong
basis
into
what
we're
doing
so
then,
when
people
start
coming
coming
here,
we
are
we're
prepared
for
receiving
them
and
for
involving
them
in
the
different
initiatives
right,
but
yeah
and
and
it's
good,
because
I
also
feel
like.
C
If
you
see
it
that
way,
it's
like
a
big
responsibility
right
for
the
people
that
are
already
here
contributing
right,
because
it's
like
we
would
need
to
set
those
bases
for
the
tc
to
to
survive
right
and
then
to
to
prosper
and
to
become
into
what
we
want
it
to
become.
So
for
me,
it's
a
really
cool
cool
feeling,
but
it's
a
tricky
one
as
well,
and
just
you
you
so
you
know,
I
share
the
document
on
the
channel.
A
Yeah,
I'm
gonna
build
on
top
of
that
because
I
think
yeah
there.
There
is
an
advantage
to
having
a
small
group
of
people
who
really
care
and
are
are
very
focused,
and
I
think
the
question
is
you
know
if
those
people
are
just
making
all
the
decisions,
then
that's
not
healthy
right
like
that.
That's
probably
not
good,
but
if,
if
that
core
group
of
people
can
serve
as
facilitators
for
opening
up
the
space
to
broader
governance-
and
I
think
that's
an
interesting
model
like
so
what
do
I
mean
by
that?
A
I
mean
like
there?
Are
these
other
tools
like
polis,
I
think,
is
a
really
interesting
tool,
especially
for
soft
gov,
for
getting
basically,
you
know
insights
into
people's
sentiments
like
where,
where
they
are
on
particular
issues-
and
you
know
maybe
it's
tools
like
that
that
allow
a
much
broader
range
of
people
to
participate
in
the
soft
gov
issues,
even
if
they
don't
have
time
to
come
to
this
meeting
right
here.
You
know
it's
like
in
this
meeting.
B
B
B
The
topics
that
need
to
be
discussed
are
the
it's
actually
the
hardest
part,
and
how
can
we
collect
that
feedback
even
opening,
for
what
is
the
intake
form
kind
of
thing
like
how.
B
Mate,
sorry,
maybe
the
work
of
soft
gov
group
is
to
have
people
that
are
looking
in
the
community
for
things
that
are
in
chat
for
how
people
are
participating
in
the
forum
looking
for
contentious
issues
or
for
anything
that
rises
of
the
perception
of
like.
Oh,
I
see
this
pattern
happening
or
I
see
this
was
challenging,
or
I
see
this.
I
see
that
and
then
collect
that
information
and
then,
during
the
softcup
meeting,
having
a
brainstorm
to
how
to
approach
that
and
what
to
do.
B
E
I
guess
just
based
on
the
name.
It
seems
to
me
that
that
sort
of
data
collection
is
the
thing
that
I've
longed
sought
from
the
transparency
group.
You
know
so
then
maybe
it's
possible
to
do
that
and
then
be
like
hey
soft
gov.
Here's,
the
stuff
we
found
and
then
softgov
could
then
use
that
as
an
actionable
thing
right.
So,
in
my
view,
almost
the
entirety
of
information
technology
that
I've
worked
in
for
the
last
30
years
is
about.
E
At
the
end
of
the
day,
what
you're
supposed
to
be
doing
is
aggregating
business,
intelligence,
right
and
so
business
intelligence
in
this
situation
would
have
to
do
with
sort
of
the
managing
of
the
of
the
overall.
So
it
seems
like
the
our
transparency
thing
works
in
reverse,
like
all
the
working
groups
give
information
to
transparency,
and
then
they
document
it
and
so
on.
So
I
guess
you
know
from
from
my
perspective,
I'm
I'm
sort
of
considering
the
idea
of
maybe
reversing
the
flow
of
that
or
having
you
know.
E
We
actively
recruit
people
like
journalists
and
other
people
to
look
into
the
thing
with
a
sort
of
critical
eye
and
be
able
to
be
like
showing
up
then
to
you
know,
people
in
the
governance
portion
about
hey
these
are
things
that
are
bubbling
and
so
on
you
know.
Maybe
there
are
automated
ways
to
do
that
too,
but
I,
this
is
just
you
know
my
idea
of
it.
So
maybe
others
don't
agree.
B
Yeah,
maybe
there
is
a
culture
report
that
could
start
to
happen
based
on
on
all
that,
like
things
that
we
observe
and
then
we
are
documenting
them.
So
there
is
a
certain
like
data
collection
aspect
and
and
then
that
data
is
analyzed
and
then
we
strategize
a
possible
route
to
go
about
them
to
the
the
issues
that
feel
more
in
need
and
then
from
there.
We
can
have
like
a
report
of
what
happened
in
the
last
two
weeks
or
something
like
that
like
what
is
the
state
of
the
culture?
E
Well,
it's
also
true
that
I'm
not
only
participating
in
this
now,
but
in
other
dows.
What
you
can
see
is
there's
a
really
big
gap
between
the
signal
to
noise
thing,
and
lately
I've
been
a
little
bit
on
a
kick
of.
How
do
I
get
rid
of
the
bystander
problem
which
creates
that
gap?
You
know
so
a
thing
happens
and
everyone's
grumbling
and
so
on,
and
we
actually
had
this
discussion
as
part
of
the
gravity
training
yesterday
about
deep
democracy.
E
You
know
where
there's
this
stuff,
that's
under
the
water
line
and
that
iceberg
you
know,
and
how
is
it
that
you
can
sort
of
pull
stuff
under
that
or
how
is
it
that
you
can
make
it
so
that
stuff
that's
under
the
water
line
becomes
maybe
more
incrementally
visible.
So
it
might
be
helpful
to
look
at
that
deep
democracy,
sort
of
thing
and
make
strategies
about
ways
to
approach
the
specific
issues
that
are
under
the
water
line.
A
I
have
a
slightly
different
tangent,
so
if
people
want
to
keep
talking
about
this
one,
I
can
wait.
D
D
So
you
know
we
are
having
like
the
same
problem
as
we
keep
having
like
yeah.
Those
are
things
that
are
services
that
people
is
bringing
to
the
dc,
which
is
good,
but
then,
like
the
tc,
has
this
lack
of
finance
financial
power
so
yeah.
This
is
something
like,
of
course
it's
good
to
have
and
it
would
benefit
like
the
dao
and
of
good
benefits,
also
other
those.
So
I
think
like
this
is
a
token
engineering
thing
like
would
benefit
like
not
only
the
tc,
but
you
know
the
culture
for
future.
D
Doubt,
and
you
know
it's
it's
according
to
our
covenant,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
like
yeah.
It's
still
pulling
resources
out
of
the
common
pool,
which
is
expected
at
some
point
because,
like
these,
he
make
anything
like
it's
probably
good,
so
yeah
just
wanted
to
raise
that,
but
yeah
overall,
I
think
the
day
is
awesome.
A
Yeah
that
actually
builds
exactly
on
where
I
was
going
with
this.
It's
something
I've
been
thinking
about
a
lot.
The
token
gating
idea
is
like
a
perfect
example
of
where
these
two
vectors
are
meeting
right.
One
vector
is
the
culture
of
the
tec,
which
is
like
really
one
of
our
most
powerful
assets.
Our
most
powerful
resources
is
the
culture
and
then
there's
this
other
thing.
That
has
to
happen
right
now,
which
is
the
financial
you
know
the
economic
layer
has
to
develop.
A
Otherwise
this
all
goes
away,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
we're
in
the
early
stages
of
kind
of
like
the
next
iteration
of
the
culture
where
we
need
to.
We
need
to
weave
these
things
together.
We
need
to
weave
sustainability
and
culture
together
so
that
we
don't
end
up
in
a
world
where
we
ignore
the
sustainability
and
the
whole
thing
collapses,
or
we
allow
this.
The
economic
sustainability
just
drive
everything
right
like
we
have
with
most
corporations
right
where
it's
like.
Who
cares?
You
know
so
like?
A
How
do
we
start
to
deliberately
move
this
community
to
a
place
where
these
two
things
come
together
in
a
marriage?
To
me,
that's
like
the
essence
of
the
biggest
challenge
that
we
now
face
is
how
do
we?
How
do
we
bring
these
things
together
to
create
something
new
that
honors
the
existing
culture
and
builds
on
it
in
a
way
that
allows
us
to
thrive.
E
Well,
that's
a
thing
that
this,
this
specific
tool
set
of
trying
to
figure
out
the
you
know,
reduce
the
gap
of
the
bystander
problem,
and
some
of
these
other
things
might
be
a
thing
that
we
can
look
at
in
gravity
too,
because
it's
this
is
our
literal
idea
is
to
not
only
go
into
groups
and
resolve
conflicts
and
other
stuff,
but
but
as
we
do
so
to
identify
specific
issues,
create
turtle
sets
to
address
those
issues
and
then
be
able
to
then
sell
them
back
to
the
to
the
you
know,
the
larger
clients
that
we're
dealing
with
you
know,
aragon,
is
our
current
first
client
in
that
respect,
but
it
would
be
great
if
we
had
some
some
kind
of
thing
where
we
could
do
pulse
measuring
and
that
we
looked
under
the
water
line
of
that
deep
democracy
thing
and
developed
tools
to
address
all
these
things.
E
So
I
feel
like
that
could
be
a
very
profitable
thing
that
we
could
do
so.
You
know,
maybe
that's
a
collaborative
thing
that
we
can
do
between
tec
and
soft
gov
and
transparency
and
gravity
together.
So.
B
I
think
gravity
is
a
different
case,
because
gravity
has
a
clear
product
and
and
it's
a
product
that
can
be
sold
kind
of
to
other
communities
and
that's
already
what's
happening.
But
then,
when
we
talk
about
things
that
are
yeah
are
a
public
good
within
the
tc
that
don't
really
have
a
an
obvious
way
to
be
monetized,
I
guess
or
sometimes
monetizing.
It
is
against
the
ethos
of
the
thing
itself.
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
challenge
we're
going
through
right.
B
Like
a
lot
of
the
things
we
need
to
a
lot
of
the
resources
that
the
non-financial
resources
we
have
are
based
on
an
ethos
that
goes
against
the
ways
we
know
of
commercializing
them.
E
Yeah
and
it's
still
up
in
the
air,
whether
we
just
like
monetize
the
tool
set
or
we
just
monetize
the
expertise
around
the
tool
set.
Just
you
know
what
I'm
saying.
So
it's
a
that's
a
different
thing
entirely.
I
feel
like
we
have
enough
expertise
in
here
to
to
take
whatever
that
tool
set,
is
and
apply
it
ourselves
right.
But
you
know
when
I'm
talking
about
going
into
a
group
that
has
no
kind
of
culture
like
we
have
it.
Might
you.
B
E
Actually,
you
know
be
a
thing
you
could
sell
to
them,
but
my
point
is
it
seems
it
seems
to
me
that
there
are
things
that
we
could
just
give
away
to.
You
know,
and
this
might
be
one
of
them
you
know
or
to
to
trickle
back
into
the
tec,
because
you
guys
are
giving
birth
to
us.
If
you
don't,
I
mean
so,
maybe
we
can
come
up
with
agreements
around
that
sort
of
thing
too.
E
B
I'll
give
you
a
quick
recap,
so
we
were
talking
about
what
is
a
good
pathway,
that
softcup
can
take
and
considering
low
engagement
and
calls
and
low
engagement
and
one
perspective,
and
then
really
high
quality,
engagement
and
another
perspective.
So
we
have
you
guys
that
have
been
a
a
huge
part
of
the
core
of
softgov
and
the
things
we
we've
been
discussing,
and
I
think
we
have
gone
and
very
interesting
routes
that,
like
whenever
there
are,
there
is
a
topic
that
needs
to
be
raised
to
the
community.
B
It's
very
nice
to
have
this
space
here,
to
break
it
down
and
then
deliver
and
and
in
better
ways
and
and
then
we
were
brainstorming
around
different
ideas.
So
bear
was
talking
about
how
we
could
map
the
strengths,
opportunities
and
threats
of
the
tc,
and
he
started
a
document
and
and
zapdemiz
was
talking
about
how
we
should
analyze
decisions
that
affect
the
community
and
that
this
could
be
a
good
space
for
that
and
gideon
was
sharing.
How
like,
based
on
the
conversation,
how
a
small
group
could
be
very.
B
It
could
be
very
nice
for
the
community
to
have
a
small
group
that
takes
care
of
this
like
intake
of
issues
and
then
involves
the
community
with
more
structure
to
the
caves.
And
then
this
idea
and
durgados
was
sharing
about
how
it's
good
to
observe
all
the
issues
that
are.
B
Under
the
water
and
understand
how
we
can
break
them
down,
and
so
there
was
yeah
many
sharings
on
how
we
could
approach
this,
and
then
I
thought
maybe
a
governance
and
culture
report
could
be
good,
that
we
have
an
intake
of
issues
and
data
analysis
of
them
and
then
understand
the
best
way
to
deal
with
them
and
communicate
to
the
community
how
they
were
dealt
with.
B
A
Yeah
I
well,
I
was
just
building
on
what
zeptimus
was
saying,
which
is
you
know
we
want
to
do.
We
want
to
do
really
good
governance,
we
want
to
build
a
culture,
and
yet
we
have
this
tension
of
like
making
sure
we're
economically
sustainable
and
that
we
don't
run
out
of
money,
and
so
I
was
just
saying
that
I
think
that
the
challenge
before
us
right
now
is
is
how
do
we
make
this
culture
evolve,
so
that
it
really
embraces
economic
sustainability,
because
we
can't
have
one
without
the
other?
A
I
this
is
my
bias
on
this,
but
I
feel,
like
you
know,
of
all
of
the
cultural
issues
that
we're
facing
right
now.
This
is
the
most
important
one,
because
because
if
we
don't
get
this
right,
we're
not
gonna
be
around.
In
a
year
I
mean
I,
I
hate
to
sound
dramatic,
but
it's
actually
true
like
if
we
don't
figure
out
a
right
way
to
do
things
like
you
know,
like
the
token
gating
question
is
really
interesting,
like
I
think
they're.
A
Yeah
sorry,
so
this
was
something
that
we've
been
talking
about
a
little
bit,
but
the
idea
is
that,
if
you
own
the
tec
token,
then
you
get
access
to
certain
parts
of
say
discord
for
example,
or
you
get
access
to
certain
websites
and
services,
and
you
know
so
there
there
actually
are
some
ways
of
doing
that.
That
are
actually
very,
I
find
kind
of
distasteful
and
exclusionary.
A
I've
been
to
some
dowels
where,
like
when
you
hit
that
token
gate.
It's
like
it
just
feels
very
clubby,
you
know,
and
so
there
are
some
real
and
also
it
goes
against
some
of
the
like
deep
principles
like
that.
The
academy
has
right.
It's
like
knowledge
should
be
free.
Like
that's
part,
you
know
it's
like
a
public
good
right.
A
So
that's
an
example
of
like
some
culture
and
mission,
things
that
are
really
serving
as
like
a
container
right
for
guiding
the
economics,
and
yet
we
also
have
to
kind
of
be
willing
to
push
the
edges
of
this,
to
see
where
there
are
ways
to
incentivize
holding
the
token
right
and
what?
What
might
that
look
like?
A
B
There
was
a
comment
mitch
made
in
the
rep
in
the
tc
document
of
like
oh,
if
we're
losing
some
of
the
governance
aspect
of
the
tc
token,
what
utility
we
have
left
with
it
and
that
just
like
clicked
to
be
how
problematic
it
is
to
have
a
token
which
is
all
only
purpose,
is
governance.
B
C
Yeah,
I
would
like
to
say
two
things.
One
two.
I
don't
know
what
killing
was
saying
and
one
to
what
levy
was
saying.
First,
with
levy
yeah.
I
completely
agree
with
what
you're
saying
and
it's
kind
of
funny
and
interesting
as
well,
because
this
utility
that
the
token
has
of
governance,
it's
actually
being
used
actually
for
a
really
few
people.
C
C
We
have
like
an
average
of
four
token
holders
participating
in
each
proposal.
You
know
so
I
feel
that's
a
big
sign.
You
know
saying
that
yeah,
like
that's
the
the
utility
you
get
with
the
token,
but
also
token
holders
are,
are
not
using
it
or
are
not
using
it
for
some
reason
right.
So
what's
that
reason,
I
think
that
would
be.
D
C
C
D
C
C
C
You
know-
and
I
feel
that's
where
softgov
could
also
start
taking
an
important
role.
What
are
the
different
metrics
and
methods
and
processes
to
track
accountability
around
the
different
projects,
the
different
proposals
you
know
and
making
sure
that
the
fonts
and
the
resources
that
we
already
have
they
are
actually
being
used
in
the
best
way
possible
right,
maybe
there's
room
for
improvement
to
to
become
more
efficient
with
what
all
we
already
have
without
having
the
need
to
to
get
more
money.
D
But
yeah
I
you
know
we
are
a
dao,
but
we
are
kinda.
Centralized
like
when
you
say,
like
four
people
is
passing
proposals,
because
it's
also
like
how
conviction
voting
works,
and
it's
like
a
62
percent
or
63
like
now,
probably
even
bigger
the
of
the
token
holders.
I
sorry
25
people
hold
like
the
20,
the
63
of
the
tokens
that
that's
something
like
you
can
see
on
the
tin
dashboard
and
I
feel
like
the
problem
with
having
like,
like
you
know,
like
the
idea
around
the
trusted
seat
was
like
okay.
D
These
people
is
like
not
to
rook
the
the
commons,
but
then
it's
like
where's
the
rest
of
the
you
know
where,
where
are
the
rugged
right?
Where
is
the
people
where
are
the
rest
of
like,
and
I
feel
like,
we
kind
of
fell
with
engagement
with,
because
we
really
like
have
like
very
bureaucratic
and,
like
you
know,
you're
starting
for
the
reward,
like
what
other
words
giving
to
the
same
people.
E
E
Oh,
I
was
just
saying,
as
is
normal
for
me,
bears
embarrassing
reminded
me
of
a
graphic
that
I
made
so
the
whole
idea.
I
think
that
that
they're
talking
about
is
that
if
you
come
from
this,
you
know
abusive
extractive
culture
and
economy
and
you're
so
used
to
giving
away
your
agency
and
autonomy
and
other
things.
It
is
actually
a
big
cultural
thing
that
that
I
think
in
token
engineering
commons
we're
doing
better
than
anyone.
But
there's,
obviously
always
you
know
room
for
improvement.
E
You
know
you
don't
just
get
to
just
jump
over
and
call
yourself
a
doubt,
because
you
have
all
this
other
stuff
that
you
have
to
do.
Do
you
even
know
how
to
be
a
dow?
Do
you
know
how
to
decolonize
yourself
sufficiently
so
that
you
know
how
to
assume
the
responsibility
of
working
in
a
participatory
democracy?
E
And
so
so
I
kind
of
made
this
to
kind
of
highlight
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
you
know
dao's
kind
of
missed
that
part
you
know,
and
and
but
education
takes
time,
energy
effort
from
everybody,
and
so
it's
not
as
simple
as
just
that.
There's
something
we're
doing
wrong,
but
there's
just
an
awful
lot
of
legacy
cultural
code
base
that
comes
with
people
when
they
come
over
from
you
know
the
previous
system.
So
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
give
that.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
for
sharing.
We
are
on
the
top
of
the
hour.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
think
we've
been
doing
that
second
step
a
lot.
I
feel
like
what
has
been
bringing
the
challenge.
That
of
lack
of
engagement
is
actually
the
the
the
lack
of
content
related
to
our
mission,
so
I
don't
feel
like
it's
like.
I
don't
think
we
are
super
centralized
also.
B
I
think
the
participation
we
have
in
the
tc
voter
participation
is
higher
than
in
a
lot
of
dows.
It's
just.
We
haven't
been
having
much
token
engineering
activity
or
proposals
that
are
advancing
token
engineering
and
I
think
we're
like
all
aware
of
that
and
that's
why
this
work
and
the
financial
direction
is
happening
and
maybe
the
engagement
we
need
to
find
yeah.
D
Like,
like
you,
just
like,
we
are
not
decentralized
but
honestly
like
to
make
any
tow
voting
decision
with
the
parameters
we
have
right
now
like.
There
is
a
couple
of
only
one
people
that
could
block
any
decision,
just
one
people,
and
not
only
one.
There
is
a
couple
of
people
who
could
just
only
by
himself
block
any
tower
voting
decision.
B
B
Yeah,
that
is
fair.
Let's
maybe
that
what
that
is
one
topic
we
need
to
dive
more
into,
and-
and
thank
you
everybody
for
joining-
this
was
a
chaotic
meeting,
but
it
was
very
important.
I
think
good
insights.