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A
I
feel
great
energized,
but
also
a
little
bit
anxious
with
the
connection
and-
and
there
is
a
show
I'm
going
with
friends
in
the
top
of
the
hour.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
that.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
tiny
anxiety
in
the
back
of
my
mind,
but
nothing
that
prevents
me
from
being
present
and
and
also
excited
to
jump
into
the
topics
that
are
opening
and
grateful
that
you
are
all
here
and
that
will
pass
to
gideon.
B
Thanks
lovey,
I
honestly,
if
I
really
tune
into
my
body,
it's
all
revved
up,
because
we
just
came
out
of
a
session
talking
about
treasury
management
and
yeah.
I
don't
know
why,
but
that
I
I'm
nervous
about
that
whole
topic.
It
just
it
fills
me
with
a
little
bit
of
anxiety
just
because
of
the
risks
involved
with
it.
C
B
So
I'm
trying
to
like
ground
myself
and
center
myself
on
that
and
also
I'm
very
excited
about
the
topics
too.
Like
this
whole
question
of
membership,
I'm
super
super
interested
in
that
I
will
pass
it
to
bear.
D
Yeah,
thank
you,
yeah.
I
think
I
share
the
same
feelings
as
gillian.
I'm
also
coming
from
the
treasury
management
call
and
I've
been
having
like
this
is
the
third
call
in
a
row.
So
some
some
of
the
instruction
is
that
I'm
trying
to
eat
breakfast
while
I'm
in
the
cold,
so
it's
messy
but
yeah,
I'm
also
excited
to
be
here.
I
I
heard
the
topics
that
were
gonna
be
discussed
in
this
call,
so
I
think
they
are
important
and
I
think
they
all
relate
with
each
other.
D
It's
really
interesting
for
me
because,
like
the
different
conversations
going
on
in
the
different
working
groups,
somehow
sometimes
they
it
doesn't
seem
like
it,
but
they
relate
to
each
other
a
lot.
So
if
something
changes
in
one
it
will
affect
the
other
one.
So
I'm
really
interested
in
that
and
yeah.
E
Thanks
well
I'm
so
so
my
body's
feeling
great.
F
Some
things
I've
been
looking
up
to
are
coming
up
together.
Some
aren't
so
I
guess
that's
life,
but
I'm
quite
positive.
This
week,
I'm
feeling
grateful
and
great
and
quite
interested
in
the
topics
we
are
going
to
discuss
today
and
also
glad
to
be
back
on
a
book
called
because
I
haven't
been
in
one
for
a
couple
of
weeks,
I'll
pass
it
over
to
you.
G
I
didn't
figure
out
what
to
question.
I
think
it's
something
that
I
do
with
a
hit
check
so
yeah,
I'm
feeling
I'm
feeling
great
overall
excited
about
this.
All
the
things
that
are
happening
in
sample
and
specifically
but
yeah
like
also
transparent
work,
is
going
smoothly,
so
yeah,
I
feel
good.
I
pass
it.
H
Thank
you,
safety
is
this,
just
like
a
general
temperature
check.
Sorry,
I
came
in
a
little
bit
late.
A
H
I
think
I
feel
pretty
good.
Overall,
I've
been
having
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
pick
up
on
on
just
like
some
old
stuff
that
I've
been
wanting
to
do
in
general,
in
in,
like
my
personal
life,
and
also
my
like
the
proposal
inverter
like
I,
I
feel
very
motivated
that
I
could
finally
like
have
a
chance
to
pick
up
on
that
and
and
get
a
little
bit
more
involved,
so
yeah.
I
think
I
think
it's
a
it's
it's
a
great
moment.
H
I
think
it's
a
great
moment
just
like
for
for
the
community
and
and
yeah.
I
feel
that
also
maybe
we
are
just
like,
maybe
like
restoring
ourselves
after,
like
some
difficult
times
and
and
also
being
around
communities
that
were
like
very
vulnerable
to
to
recent
changes
just
in
general
in
the
market.
So
so,
yes,
as
anthony
said
like
trying
to
be
just
like
very
like
thankful
and
and
yeah,
I
I
think,
motivated
in
in
general
and
I'll
pass
it
to.
A
A
Okay,
cool
cool,
so
let's
jump
into
the
first
topic:
that
is
just
the
governance
feedback.
A
Yesterday,
in
the
stewards
council,
wherein
the
stewards
call
tui
was
mentioning
how
the
one
hive
team
has
been
looking
forward
to
hear
feedback
for
the
gardens,
because
they're
looking
into
a
v2
and
tim,
was
sharing
some
thoughts
about
like
oh,
maybe
we
should
have
a
time
limit
for
how
long
proposals
stay
in
the
gardens
and-
and
that
was
just
one
feedback.
So
I
was
just
willing
to
do
a
round
of
feedback
here.
A
One
and
two
understand
what
is
the
best
way
for
us
to
capture
that
feedback?
Would
that
be
through
a
form
or
yeah
or
opening
a
forum
post,
and
then
people
can
put
things
there
and
we
can
share
that
with
one
hive
so
I'll
pass
to
chewie.
If
you
want
to
add
something
and
and
just
share
your
thoughts.
H
Yeah,
so
just
and
in
in
general,
I
feel
that
maybe
sometimes
we've
had
like
a
very
just
like
a
one-way
approach
to
things
whatever
we
want
to
like
solve
just
like
decision
boating,
especially
like
oh,
should
we
change
like
these
parameters
or
or
or
or
that,
and
I
feel
that
maybe
a
lot
of
these
issues
could
be
addressed
in
in
in
just
like
different
approaches,
because
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
be
like
changing
parameters
every
time
that
we
need
to
like,
we,
we
need,
to,
let's
say,
inspire
some
kind
of
like
behavioral
change
in
in
in
our
token
holders.
H
I
I
I
think
that
it
could,
I
don't
know,
maybe
maybe
be
solved.
I
don't
know
like
as
a
ui
issue
like
who
knows
maybe,
like
a
lot
of
people
still
are
not
as
aware
of
celeste
as
the
community
is
so
I
don't
know,
maybe
that
could
be
a
ui
change
or
or
yeah
just
like
just
like
different
ways
in
which
we
can
approach
how
to
solve
different
issues
around
the
decision
making
process.
H
So
so
yeah,
maybe
kicking
it
off.
With
with
that
thought,
I
don't
know
if
someone
else
wants
to
take
it.
B
I'll
go
only
because
I
don't
have.
I
have
one
specific
suggestion,
but
also
I
find
like
things
like
this
are
usually
better.
If
I
can
do
it
async,
you
know
like
on
the
spot.
I'm
not
super
great
at
just
like
coming
up
with
ideas
of
like
the
very
best
thing
to
add
to
gardens
so
like
it
feels
like
if
we
had
like
some
type
of
document
or
some
place
where
we
could
like
collaborate
on
it
and
add
things
over
time.
I
think
that
would
be.
B
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
as
far
as
like
the
one
specific
thing
that
I
did
have
for
gardens.
I
think
that
there's
this
thing
called
erc
1155,
which
basically
allows
you
to
do
kind
of
like
logical
combinations
of
tokens.
So
you
could
say,
must
have
you
know,
tec
and
an
nft
or
must
have
you
know.
B
G
Yeah
the
question
is
like
governance
like,
I
feel
like
the
best.
G
But
people
is
not
engaging
a
lot,
but
if
you
ask
them
like
in
a
call,
they
just
give
their
opinion,
which
is
great,
so
I
feel
like
if
someone
jumping
it
and
then
hang
it
over
to
one
arrive.
I
think
that's
the
best
way
pass
it
to
empty.
F
Cool
things
yeah,
I
have
to
agree
a
bit
on
that
the
forum
would
be
the
ideal
place,
I'm
just
not
sure
it's
going
to
get
the
proper
attention,
but
I
wonder
if,
like
one
possible
way,
would
be
to
first
of
all
have
these
keywords
talk
about
it,
because
I'm
all
the
stewards
are
like
pretty
much
the
people
that
put
like
pretty
much
all
the
proposals
up
there
and
they
probably
have
like
better
experience
in
the
process
and
may
have
some
suggestions
and
then
just
figuring
out
a
way
to
to
get
a
pull
up
like
a
few
people
from
the
rotor
community
to
just
expand
on
their
feedback
for
the
product.
F
I
think
that
that'd
be
great
as
well,
and
also
really
anyone
with
strong
opinions
like,
for
example,
gideon,
there's
an
open
channel
where
they're
discussing
bb
2.
So
if
like,
if
anyone
wants
to
be
like
really
involved,
they
can
just
jump
in
and
provide
direct
feedback.
F
D
Yeah,
thank
you
yeah.
I
don't
really
have
much
to
say
I'm
a
really
new
user
of
the
gardens
so
yeah,
probably
maybe
maybe
it
already
exists.
I
don't
really
know,
but
maybe,
like
some
faq
like
to
understand
how
the
gardens
work
and
the
different
definitions
of
the
terminology
over
there.
That's
something
that
took
me
a
while
to
get
so.
Maybe
that
could
be
some
feedback
but
yeah.
I
don't
have
much
to
say
I
think
we're
all
good.
So
I
pass
it
back
to
you.
Libby.
A
Nice,
thank
you
guys,
yeah,
I
think,
probably
a
mix
of
what
zaptimizing
gideon
said
of
having
like
have.
We
could
have
a
thread
in
the
forum,
but
then
also
add
some
cat
hurting
to
it
and
send
to
the
people
that
one
that
have
something
to
say
already
that
we
know
and
then
try
to
keep
that
thread
active
and
if
you
could
post
that
entity
that
link
you
mentioned
that
would
be
cool
to
where
they're.
Having
that
discussion,
we
could
add
all
that
to
the
forum.
A
Thank
you,
so
we
can
jump
to
the
next
topic,
gated
channels.
How
do
we
feel
about
them?
Gideon?
Do
you
want
to
introduce
a
little
bit?
Well,
maybe
everyone
here
is
already
well
introduced
to
the
idea
of
having
gated
channels
and
just
some
of
the
ideas
of
why
having
them.
What
could
be
the
utility
I
mean
it
is
based
on
the
utility
of
the
tc
token,
so
incentivizing
people
to
have
the
token
based
on
channels
they
can
join.
B
Sure,
thanks
libby
yeah,
I
mean
I
think
that
this
all
does
come
down
to
raising
the
utility
of
the
tec.
Token,
like
it
increasing
demand.
B
B
Right
now-
and
this
is
just
my
personal
opinion
like
I'm-
taking
off
the
sample
hat-
let's
just
get
into
speaking-
I
feel
like
there
is
a
division
in
this
community
between
the
people
who
can
vote
and
the
people
who
can't
vote
and
that's
gonna
change.
I
think
over
time,
as
as
praised,
you
know,
like
praise,
is
changing
that
it's
getting
tec
tokens
into
more
people's
hands.
So
that's
good,
but
I,
but
I
also
just
feel
like
it's
good.
B
If
we
can,
if
we
can
get
the
token
into
more
people's
hands
and
then
enable
them
to
participate
in
governance,
that's
gonna
improve
the
wisdom
of
the
crowd,
improve
our
collective
decision
making
and
make
us
stronger
as
a
community.
B
So
I
think
that's
like
if
I
were
to
step
back
and
think
about
this
from
like.
Why
am
I?
Why
do
I
care
about
that?
I
think
that's.
Those
are
kind
of
the
big
picture
pieces
and
token
gating.
Some
channels
on
discord
is
just
one
way
that
we
can
increase
the
utility
of
the
of
the
token,
and
it's
not
the
only
way,
and
I
think
that
you
know
we've
already
seen
some
concerns
about
doing
that,
and
I
personally
have
some
of
these
concerns
too.
B
I
won't
mention
what
the
what
the
dow
was,
but
there
was
a
really
actually
pretty
cool
social
dao
that
I
joined,
and
I
I
really
like
the
people,
but
I
have
to
say
that
when
I
joined
it
was
token
gated,
and
there
was
a
little
part
of
me
that
felt
like
oh,
you
know.
Am
I
like
one
of
the
cool
kids
now
like
what
like
what
is
this?
This?
Doesn't
it
does?
It
didn't
feel
right,
and
so
I
think
that
if
we
were
to
do
token
gating
of
discord,
you
know
we
don't
have
to.
B
There
are
other
ways
of
increasing
the
utility
of
the
token,
but
I
think
it
is
if
we
did
it
the
right
way,
it
could
actually
really
boost
a
sense
of
inclusiveness.
Ironically
it
could.
It
could
actually
help
us
to
to
to
create
a
sense
of
like
shared
ownership
over
this
community,
and
I,
the
last
thing
I'll
add,
is
that
I
don't
think
this
is
just
about
the
tec
token.
I
think
there's
this
question
about
like
a
membership,
tc
membership
nft
that
we've
been
kicking
around.
A
A
How
is
it
called
it's
kind
of
like
in
a
an
inter
internship
with
block
science
and
other
token
engineering
projects,
so
folks
that
were
brilliant
in
some
of
the
courses
like
alumni
of
the
of
the
tea
academy
that
would
like
to
continue
engaging
in
a
certain
project
then,
could
be
a
part
of
this
of
this
community.
A
H
H
I
feel
that
if
we
focus
on
that
what
people
outside
the
community
have
a
very,
very
clear
demand
for
is
just
tokenomics,
so
I
feel
that
we
could
explore
like
some
kind
of
like
revenue
or
token
gating
experiment,
but
I
feel
that
at
least
until
we
have
like
the
first
generation
of
the
t,
fundamental
scores,
we
won't
really
be
in
like
there
in
in
in
the
possibility
of
expanding
the
community
with
more
token
engineers,
just
like
members
I
feel
like
in
in
the
near
horizon.
H
That's
like,
I
feel
like
the
next
evolution
phase
for
for
for
tec.
So
then
like
when
we
have
like
some
token
engineers.
I
don't
know
like
there
are
gonna,
be
people
that
focus
on
different
things,
and
maybe
we
could
try
to
see
and
explore
the
possibility
of
having
like
these
kinds
of
like
workshops
and
stuff
like
that,
and
those
can
be
token
gated.
H
And
I
do
feel
that
that's
that's
something
that
has
a
lot
of
opportunity,
because
it's
clear,
like
people
have
been
asking
for
it
for
four
months
and
we
really
haven't
been
able
to
provide
that
because
we're
not
like
really
a
service.
Now
we
are
a
commons.
H
So
the
idea
is
to
eventually
be
like
a
very
strong
spine
for
for
for
this
idea
of
a
service
dao,
but
but
yeah
like
until
then
I
I
definitely
agree
on
on
doing
like
some
experiments,
but
maybe
I
would
say
when
it
comes
to
token
gating
as
much
as
we
explore.
H
There
is
a
very
clear
need
that
we
are
not
able
to
provide
yet
so
until
then
I
would
maybe
focus
on
yeah,
like
kind
of
like
social
experiments
or
something
like
this,
but
not
expect
not
expect
to
find
the
solution
if
we
don't
like,
if
we,
if
we
don't
listen
to
a
clear
need
yeah.
These
are
some
of
my
thoughts
and
I
think
everybody
went
or-
or
I
don't
know
if
anti
or
bear
want
to
take
it.
D
D
Do
we
see
that
people
is
actually
asking
for
that?
Maybe
in
a
way,
or
is
this
more
like
a
response
to
another
problem
that
we
have?
That
in
this
case
is
like
tech
utility
right,
because
if
that's
the
reason
why
we're
doing
it,
then
maybe
there
are
different
alternatives
in
which
we
could
generate
that
utility
and
not
just
do
this,
because
I
just
don't
have
like
any
really
solid
reason
to
do
so.
D
Maybe
is
the
education
part?
I
think
that's
that's
a
good
point,
but
like
chu
is
saying,
maybe
it's
gonna
take
some
time
to
like
in
in.
In
that
aspect,
I
could
also
suggest
I
think
someone
said
yesterday
having
like
events,
token
gated
events.
I
think
that's
also
like
an
interesting
idea
like
grief,
inviting
someone
to
have
like
a
conversation,
something
like
that.
D
I
think
it
was
mentioned,
but
again
I
would
go
back
like
for
what
problem
are
we
solving
solving
with
token
gating
and
if
it's
really
worth
putting
f142
into
doing
this
right
now,
I
don't
know
if
nt,
you
want
to
say
something.
F
Yeah,
okay,
so
here's
here's
my
thinking
the
first
time
I
heard
about
the
nft
thing
I
thought
of
it
as
something
you
earn
in
exchange
for
say
on
boarding
to
the
tc,
which
is
signing
the
covenant
joining
the
community,
calls
setting
up
praise,
etc,
etc,
and
now
it
feels
like
the
like.
We,
we
are
trying
to
take
it
not
as
a
as
a
reward
but
more
as
a
requirement,
and
I
think
bear
has
a
solid
argument.
There.
F
And
it's
actually,
it's
actually
making
me
think
that
the
tc
is
working
properly
because
we
are
working
to
solve
others
problems
and
so
right
now
I
haven't
heard
like
a
solid
plan
for
the
talking
gating
that
solves
a
problem
for
others.
F
It's
just.
We
are
just
looking
for
to
solve
a
problem
we
have.
One
of
it
seems,
like
everyone
is
pretty
say,
sold
on
the
idea
of
education,
which
seems
like
a
reasonable
way
to
implement
token
gating.
But
then
you
know
the
t
academy
has
been
putting
a
lot
of
effort
into
making
this
education
open
and
free,
and
so
really
I'm
just
having
a
hard
time
thinking
about.
F
Oh,
what
is
it
that
we
could
realistically
open
gate
and
drive
demand
because
I
think
chewie
also
said
services,
but
at
least
in
my
opinion,
services
would
be
better
off
if
it's
like
with
payments
instead
of
you
buy
tc
once
and
you
get
access
to
the
payment
like
forever
or
something
like
that,
I
don't
know
how
would
that
work
out,
but
yeah,
I
think
talking
getting
would
probably
make
sense
say
for
a
talking
holder
channel
where
there's
you
know
some
more
direct
information
stuff
like
that,
but
like
talking
getting
to
provide
a
service,
unless
someone
has
like
a
really
great
idea,
I'm
just
not
seeing
it
and
I'll
pass
it
over
to
you
70.
G
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
pretty
much
agree
with
what
and
he
was
saying
like.
I
really
think
if
we
have
a
token
gated
and
we
really
need
to
have
like-
and
I
absolutely
love
what
gideon
was
saying
before
about
like
having
the
execution
matters
and
how
we
do
that.
So
basically,
I'm
very
acceptable
to
that
at
the
beginning.
Unless
there
is
like
a
proof
of
something
like
what's
you
know
the
benefit,
I
I
really
don't
have
much
to
share
in
that
topic.
A
So
the
feeling
I
had
is
that
there
is
a
negative
support
to
it
or,
in
general,
a
feeling
that
the
reason
is
not
clear
yet
or
that
the
ways
we
we
could
do,
that
don't
feel
so
aligned
or
that
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
concern
about
working
with
this.
A
Just
something
that
came
to
mind
is
that
events
could
actually
be
like
a
really
great
use
of
it
that
it
wouldn't
feel
so
exclusive.
I
mean
the
way
events
happen
in
conferences
now
feels
very
exclusive,
but
if,
if
it
was
just
a
token
gated
passport
in
that
feels
like
it
would
be
aligned
with
everything,
but
then
it
wouldn't
happen,
as
often
as
we
might
need
for
increasing
the
utility.
A
Hi
mitch
I'll
pass
it
to
you
and
then
back
to
gideon.
If
you
want
to
contribute
to
the
quest
of
how
do
you
feel
about
token
gated
channels?
C
C
You
know
social
tokens,
I'm
sure
chewie
is
no
stranger
to
this
one,
but
I
mean
using
these
token
gated
things
to
increase
token
utility
is
a
really
like
easy
way
to
make
utility,
and
I
think
that
making
a
separate
nft
so
like
a
separate
token
that
like
gets
you
access,
is
not
really
helping,
like,
I
think,
the
overall
goal,
which
was
to
increase
token
utility,
like
you're
kind
of
like
diluting
it
into
like
other
places
and
making
the
system
more
complicated.
C
C
A
A
Strategies
could
be
conflicting
with
them.
I
think
there
are
ways
to
do
that
without
being
conflicting
and
more
in
a
partnership
kind
of
thing.
What
we've
been
doing
with
the
tea
governance
guild,
for
example,
it
is
a
somehow
gated
working
group
without
needing
a
token
like
we
could
add
the
token
for
that
and
together
with
the
other
acceptance
criterias
that
are
happening,
but
I
think
we
could
open
spaces
that
are
like
supposed
to
be
focused
or
that
we
need
an
intimate
group.
A
B
B
It's
like
people
are
excited
about
this
right
and
if
you
look
at
the
people
who
are
joining
over
there,
they're
they're
pretty
technical,
like
these
are
the
token
engineers
or,
like
token
engineer,
wannabes
right
like
and
and
then,
if
you
compare
that
to
the
tec,
it's
we're
not
growing.
It
doesn't
seem
like
we're
growing
as
fast
seems.
B
Like
the
token
engineering
academy
is
growing
faster,
and
so
that's
actually,
I
think,
a
good
thing
in
the
sense
of
they're
doing
a
good
job
of
attracting
the
people
who
should
be
the
future
of
this
commons,
and
so
I
guess
where
I'm
going
with.
That
is.
B
I
think
we
need
some
ways
of
getting
those
people
really
excited
about
the
tec,
because,
right
now,
if
you
look
at
who's
here
it
doesn't.
The
vibe
is
not
that
right.
It's
something
else,
and
we've
got
a
great
vibe.
You
know,
we've
got
the
governance
vibe
and
you
know:
we've
got
all
these
other
things,
the
kind
of
the
more
the
cultural
aspect
of
it,
but
less
the
technical
aspect.
B
So
I
think
one
thing
that
if,
if
we
could
think
about
ways
of
inviting
the
you
know
these
600
new
people
who
are
going
through
the
you
know
the
the
fundamentals
course
enticing
them
over
and
helping
them
to
feel
like
this
is
their
commons
would
be
super
cool.
So
what
what
would
be
examples
of
that?
Well,
like
you
know,
if
there
were
ways
that
you
could
take
you're,
taking
the
fundamentals
course
and
then
along
the
way.
B
There
are
things
that
we're
doing
in
the
tec
that
do
require
that
you
take
a
stake
in
this
community
and
we
do
it
in
a
good
way
that
doesn't
feel
like
this
exclusive
thing.
It's
open
to
anybody
right.
Anybody
can
do
it
and
you're
doing
it
by
taking
a
stake
in
the
future
of
this
commons,
which
you're
already
like
you're,
investing
in
the
future
of
this
commons
yourself
by
just
even
studying
token
engineering.
B
So
what
would
that
look
like?
Well,
I
think
you
know
building
on
these
ideas
of
events
and
education,
you
know,
maybe
we
piggyback
on
some
of
the
courses
that
are
happening
in
the
fundamentals
course
and
we
invite
some
of
the
luminaries.
Some
of
the
people
who
are
like
have
been
doing
this.
You
know
for
years
and
are
friends
of
ours
to
kind
of
have
smaller,
more
intimate
conversations.
B
You
know
where
they
really
share
their
experience,
and
you
know
you
get
to
kind
of
see
like
the
inside
look
at
how
these
things
happen.
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
it
would
be,
but,
like
those
kinds
of
things
I
think
would
be
really
cool
and,
like
you
know,
would
would
provide
a
sense
of
meaning
and
community,
and
I
think
that
they
would
be
valuable
enough
that
we
could
tokengate
them.
A
Yeah
angela
actually
had
she
mentioned
something
like
that
that
she
wanted
to
propose
some
quests
to
the
people
who
are
doing
the
course
and
then,
if
they
do
that,
and
one
of
them
would
be
like
joining
the
tc
server
or
engaging
with
something
in
the
tc
that
that
would
count
on
their
badge
or
or
something
like
that.
We
should
talk
to
her
because
I
remember
she
mentioned
something
about
it,
and
this
sounds
cool.
A
This
could
be
like
part
of
the
education
we
were
talking
about
in
a
way
that
is
integrative
to
maybe
even
grab
the
folks
that
are
learning
things
and
have
them
share
with
the
tc
community
with
the
tc
token
holders.
So
it's
a
way
for
them
to
train
their
knowledge
and
also
for
people
to
learn
somehow.
B
I
just
want
to
add
one
one
other
thing,
which
is
that
we're
working
on
other
token
utility
pathways
right,
so
we
don't
have
to
do
this.
We
really
don't
have
to
like.
I.
I
personally
believe
that
there
that
there's,
if
we
start
doing
some
experiments
in
this
area-
and
I
think
that
the
academy
is
probably
the
best
way
of
doing
that-
it's
like
the
most
logical
way
of
bringing
new
people
in,
but
but
we
really,
we
don't
have
to
do
this.
B
I
think
we
should
do
this
if
we
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
good
for
the
the
culture
there
like
there
are
other
things
we're
working
on
like
there's
a
I'll
just
mention
these
briefly,
but,
like
we've,
got
some
ideas
right
now
that
we're
moving
forward
on
around
consulting
intake
like
token
engineering,
consulting
intake
and
requiring
token
holding
in
order
to
participate
in
that,
so
that's
gonna
drive
utility
up
there.
There
are
other
ways
that
we
can
do
it
so
yeah,
but
but
yeah.
B
I
guess
I
guess
I
am
really
tuned
into
what
bear
was
saying
which
is
like.
Let's
not
do
this
just
to
solve
our
problems
of
token
utility.
Let's
do
this
if
it
solves
the
the
users
of
this
commons,
if
it
solves
their
needs,
that's
I
think
that's
a
really
useful
way
of
thinking
about
it.
F
I
wanted
to
add
that,
besides
that,
I
think
anyways
having
pre,
like
probably
just
one
channel,
to
have
a
more
highway
communication
with
token
holders,
maybe
a
great
way,
but
I
have
already
tested
a
few
token
getting
tools
and
so
that
that
would
be
pretty
straightforward.
If
that's
something
like
like,
we
consider
could
make
better
our
communication
with
with
whoever
holds
dc.
A
Yeah,
that
would
be
a
very
innocent
way
to
start
it's
not
like
excluding
anybody
is
just
to
give
important
messages,
and
maybe
we
could
start
creating
a
culture
that
people
actually
check
the
chat
and
just
that
one
chat,
and
that
becomes
like
the
place
for
important
messages
and
we
make
sure
to
not
spam.
It.
B
Yeah
also
one
other
thing
just
think
about,
is
you
know
having
a
good
communications
channel
for
votes?
B
You
know
for
like
the
the
common
pool
spending
votes,
like
that's,
actually
super
useful,
like
having
one
place
where
a
token
holder
can
go
and
say
like
okay,
what's
really
going
on,
you
know,
like
kind
of
like
we
do,
let's
look
what
griff
does
in
our
community
calls,
which
is
like
he
does
an
update
on
like,
what's
what's
in
conviction,
voting
right
now
and
we
do
in
the
stewards
calls
like
doing
that
for
token
holders
like
and-
and
maybe
there
are
ways
of
this
now-
I'm
just
riffing
here
but
like
maybe
there
are
ways
to
for
token
holders
to
actually
have
conversations
in
a
token
holder,
discord
channel
about
their
views
on
these
votes.
F
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
I
just
remembered
that
one
hype
has
this
bot
that
whenever
a
proposal
gets
posted
or
executed
or
whatever
it
posts
like
an
update
on
the
discord
channel-
and
you
know
we
could
take
that
ball-
put
it
in
here
and
every
time.
A
Cool
that
sounds
like
a
call
to
action
there,
somebody
that
wants
to
own
that
to
create
this
channel
and
and
just
start
this
way,
and
then
we
can
track.
What
is
the
engagement
if
people
are
feeling
comfortable
with
that,
and
that
could
be
the
first
experiment
of
the
token
gate.
B
So
so
louie
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
signed
up
for
in
sample
in
the
in
the
proposal
is,
is
like
pioneering
some
type
of
token
gating
thing,
but
I,
but
I
I
see
us
as
more
just
like
implementers
and
to
be
honest,
like
I
think
this
is
like
a
cultural
issue.
B
B
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think
I
I
think
that
there's
implementation,
questions
and
entities
digging
we're
we're
kind
of
digging
into
this
on
in
the
sample
world,
but
there
are
a
bunch
of
cultural
implications
like
we
could
do.
We
could
mess
things
up.
Let
me
put
it
this
way.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we
do
something
like
this,
we
don't
want
to
mess
it
up.
A
A
partnership
yeah
for
sure
I
think
the
other
points
like
if
we
were
thinking
of
making
social
gated
channels
or,
if
that
had
a
very
clear
utility
like.
Oh
you
come
to
this
channel
because
of
a
reason-
and
this
is
gated-
I
think
that
would
be
more
delicate
than
what
came
up
now.
That
is
like
communication
channel
to
all
token
holders,
to
talk
about
the
vote
and
things
that
are
dedicated
to
token
holders.
A
So,
for
example,
now
a
person
who
doesn't
have
a
token
cannot
vote
so
it
doesn't
feel
exclusive
to
have
them
out
of
the
conversation
anyways.
You
know,
but
because
this
is
already
our
design
in
a
sense.
So
I
think
it
would
be
great
anyways
to
open
that
for
a
community
discussion,
and
maybe
just
having
this
as
a
first
step,
will
prompt
what
will
make
people
more
comfortable
to
talk
about
other
implications
if
we
had
other
uses
for
it,.
B
Yeah
that
makes
sense
to
me.
That's
like
so
basically
do
do
a
a
pilot
with
the
token
holder,
communications
and
like
we
can.
We
can
build
on
that
idea
and
really
focus
on
that
first
and
then
be
thinking
about
this
kind
of
this
broader
goal
of
maybe
some
education,
things
with
token
engineering
academy
as
something
that
we
might
roll
out
that
we
would
test
with
the
community
and
and
see
if
there's
like
some
interest
and
willingness
on
that,
and
that
that
wouldn't
be
until
like
the
fall
time.
With
the
token
engineering
fundamentals.
A
Yeah
exactly
and
to
your
point
too,
that
some
people
were
locked
out
of
governance.
I
think
now,
with
the
reward
system.
That's
not
really
happening
anymore,
because
everyone
who
had
their
tok,
who
were
waiting
to
receive
their
tokens
from
that
hatch
period,
have
already
received
it,
and
and
the
people
who
are
engaging
are
just
like
on
a
two-week
drawback,
because
we
are
distributing
frequently.
C
They
will
be
in
in
a
couple
weeks:
we've
only
distributed
up
to
december,
but
they'll
be
there
in
like
a
month.
B
Hey
olivia,
just
one
last
thing
is
so
so
we
can.
We
can
move
forward
in
sample
with
this
token
holder,
channel
idea
as
the
tech
like
what
we
just
talked
about.
Do
you
want
to
maybe
brainstorm
about,
like
you
know
talking
with
angela
about
this
longer
term
thing
just
so
that
it's
on
her
radar
as
a
possibility.
B
Okay
and
and
maybe
yeah
I'll,
follow
up
with
you
separately
to
just
kind
of
because
it
that
also
syncs
with
some
of
the
stuff
that
we're
talking
about
with
sampo
too
so
I'll
I'll.
I
can
follow
up
with
you
separately
and
then
maybe
we
just
like
talk
about
like
timing
and
stuff
like
that,
would
be
helpful
for
us.
A
So
there
is
a
technical
blocker
now
like
we're,
not
able
to
actually
do
it
right
now.
B
There
are
solutions
entities
looking
at
different
solutions
right
now.
I
I
don't
think
that
the
technical
hurdle
is
going
to
be
the
big
thing.
I
mean
it's,
it's
more
about
how
we
do
it
and
the
thing
that
mitch
mentioned
too
like
there's
this
question
of
like
is
it
just
token?
Is
it
just
a
tec
token?
Is
it
tec
token,
plus,
like
a
some
type
of
membership,
nft
like
there,
you
know
the
the
the
tec.
Token
thing
is
obviously
like
we
don't
have
to
solve
the
nft
thing
to
do.
B
The
token
holder
channel,
like
that's,
super,
clear
right,
but
if
we
wanted
to
do
any
kind
of
like
nf
membership,
nft
thing
like
there,
there
are
all
these
complexities
with
that
right.
So,
but
to
answer
your
question
just
doing
token
gating,
I
don't
you
know,
I
think,
like
collab
land,
and
there
are
other
ones
too.