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A
And
feeling,
like
the
best
use
of
this
time
for
softgov,
it's
actually
to
hear
everyone
to
gather
this
data,
because
it's
so
much
like
super
juicy
material
that
we
can
use
for
everything
we're
doing
to
to
get
this
compass
of
where
we
at
what
are
we
thinking?
How
are
we
like
moving
together
and
a
few
topics
have
been
coming
up
and
when
they
are
like
recurring,
I
grab
them
and
bring
it
in
and
we
can
discuss
so
this
week.
We're
gonna
talk
about
money
and
and
about
contribution.
A
A
A
Yeah
and
also
leave
the
space
open
for
like
if
anyone
doesn't
agree
with
how
we're
moving
with
softgov
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me.
If
anyone
wants
to
like
propose
a
session
to
facilitate
something,
we
can
always
work
something
out
and
to
start
today.
The
question
is:
why
is
it
uncomfortable
to
talk
about
money,
I'm
coming
from
an
assumption,
I'm
assuming
that
it's
uncomfortable
to
talk
about
money?
So
if
someone
disagrees
with
this
assumption,
you
can
also
talk
about
this
and
I'll
pass
to
santi.
C
C
When
one
thing
I've
noticed
in
crypto
is
that,
as
things
are
transparent,
you
don't
care
that
much
you
really
you
you
get
along
with.
I've
been
part
of
this
of
this
steam.
That
now
is
hive
blockchain,
it's
a
social
media
and
you
can
see
what
everyone
has
on
their
accounts
directly,
because
it's
linked
to
their
name.
C
You
rely
with
them,
you
answer
you,
they
post
you,
you
comment
and,
and
you
can
go
right
away
and
check
how
much
money
they
have,
and
you
don't
give
a
you,
don't
care
you
just
you
know
good
for
them.
You
keep
talking
to
them,
you
don't
you
don't
sense
this,
you
don't
experience
this
sense
of
envy
or
greedy
or
that
sometimes
you
experience
in
other
areas
or
in
other
kind
of
money
relationships.
C
So
I
think
it's
not
that
much
due
to
the
money
it's
due
to
the
society.
We
live
with
competition
and-
and
you
know
always
looking
at
your
neighbor
and
and
trying
to
compete
instead
of
focusing
on
your
own
life
and
trying
to
be
happy
and
forget
the
of
what
your
neighbor
has
or
doesn't
have
and-
and
I
think
it's
mainly
because
of
the
consummation-
you
know
society
where
we
live,
that
that
brings
all
these
all
these
you
know
perceptions.
C
I
don't
know
I'll
pass
it
to
juan
carlos.
Maybe
he's
he's
got
more
interesting
things
to
tell
us
about
that.
F
F
The
history
of
wealth
that
has
been
grown
yeah
by
the
exploitation
of
men
and
that
that
is
why
it
it's
so
hard
the
the
economy-
and
I
mean
here
in
colombia-
it's
absurd
that
every
time
you
go
out,
you
see
people
like
living
in
in
in
very
bad
conditions,
just
because
they
don't
have
money
and
that
that
is
that
is
something
that
is,
is
really
bad.
F
So,
like
yeah,
we
want
money
to
live
good,
but
the
existence
of
money
in
in
the
way
it
works
right.
Now,
it's
absurd
that
we
need
money
to
to
to
to
be
dignified,
so
yeah,
that's
I
that's
my
conflictive
relationship
with
money
and
also
because
it
commodifies
everything-
and
there
are
some
things
that
are
very
difficult
to
to
commodify
and
to
put
into
numbers,
because
people
can
be
the
richest
man
in
earth
or
something
like
that,
but
sometimes
they
they
lack
of
love
or
for
appreciation.
F
So
I
I
have
noticed
that
sometimes
a
well
pronounced
word
is
is
much
more
valuable
than
than
a
present
or
a
or
a
physical
gift
that
can
be
bought
by
by
through
money.
So
yeah,
that's
my
conflictive
relationship
with
bonnie
and
I
will
pass
to
matteo
and
cheers
to
matteo,
because
today
he
is
going
to
present
to
eat
colombia
in
myths
and
realities
about
crypto.
G
Thank
you,
man
yeah
a
little
nervous
about
that,
but
yeah
it's
going
to
happen,
7
p.m.
If
anyone
here
speaks
spanish,
I'm
gonna
join
at
the
end
me
and
I'll,
pursue
the
the
meetup
link,
but
yeah.
That
question
is
quite
difficult,
but
in
my
mind
comes
that
as
we
as
a
society,
we
decided
that
money
is
the
main
value
of
exchange
and
every
century
that
passes
every
moment
that
that
is
happening
as
even
more
since
capitalism
was
born.
G
G
So
I
I
guess,
since
capitalism
and
all
of
the
ideas
that
economy
should
be
happening
around
grabbing
more
wealth
and
the
rich
getting
more
rich
and
the
poor
staying
how
they
are.
Money
became
like
a
taboo
in
the
sense
that
it's
it's
so
sacred
that
talking
about
it.
If
we
are
going
to
to
make
an
exchange
you,
I
should
be
worried
taking
too
much
money
for
your
side
or
you
will
be
taking
too
much.
G
Money
can
can
can
end
up
in
a
in
some
certain
conflict
and
the
idea
of
grabbing
more
wealth
gets
people
to
yeah
like
surround
their
life.
Only
to
that
idea
of
value
that
shouldn't
be
like
that
so
yeah.
I
guess
that
I
want
to
make
it
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
more
clear,
but
but
it's
it's
like
that
value
shouldn't
be
seen
as
money
per
se
monies
just
exchange
a
way
to
change
it
and
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
septimus
where
to
go.
B
Thanks
mateo
me
personally,
I
normally
don't
have
trouble
to
speak
about
money.
I
also
think
it's
interesting
like
it's
who
you
try
to
become
like
like
when
you
don't
speak
about
it.
It's
like
mateo
is
saying
it's
taboo,
so
it
doesn't
improve
on
and
the
rules
come
from
governments
or
whatever,
and
I
think
it's
interesting
to
like
we
are
doing
now.
We
are
building
economies
and
I
think
it
it
will
help
the
the
the
the
people
yeah.
B
I
think
it's
interesting
to
speak
and
share
knowledge,
because
if
you
don't
speak
about
it,
then
people
will
since
no
one's
speaking,
especially
when
you're
a
child
or
or
you're
growing.
If
no
one,
no
one
explain
you
how
it
works,
you
never
learn
and,
and
always
the
same
people
have
the
power.
So
I
think
it's
interesting
to
talk
and
build
and
I'll
pass
it
to
them.
H
That's
me,
I
guess
hey
my
relationship
with
money
is,
I
don't
know
it's
been
crazy
over
the
years
and
at
some
point
in
my
life,
while
growing
up
I
had
like,
I
was
part
of
the
group
that
we
basically
had
no
limits
in
terms
of
spending
at
some
point,
and
that
was
that
was
weird
because
it
wasn't
a
limitation
while
growing
up
at
some
point
and
that
you
know
kind
of
changes.
H
Your
perspective
on
how
you
interact
with
money,
but
going
through
the
motions
of
being
in
europe
and
coming
back
to
to
latin
america
and
engaging
with
the
let's
say
the
quote:
unquote:
the
revolution
in
venezuela.
H
It's
the
the
relationship
with
money
changes
because
you
start
looking
and
seeing
people
getting
really
really
rich
doing
business
with
the
government
and
doing
stuff.
That's
not
necessarily
aligns
with
your
values,
and
you
start
shining
up
on
that
and
you
say
yeah.
We
call
them
into
files,
so
people
that
you
know
plug
into
the
the
wealth
of
the
government,
the
oil
money
and
the
drug
money
and
and
all
the
kinds
of
things
that
you
see,
people
with
distracting
goal
and
killing
indigenous
populations.
H
In
the
mines
stuff
that
you
don't
really
want
to
know,
but
in
my
in
my
experiences
I
I
I
I
had
this
thing
of
while
I
travel
or
when
I
when
I
when
I
used
to
do
theater,
I
I
I
had
a
hobby
of
asking
questions
and
over
time
and
in
one
of
those
moments
I
I
ran
into
a
person
in
caracas
and
it
was
weird
because
I
just
got
out
of
the
subway.
I
was
you
know
walking
by
back
and
and
this
guy
was
just
following
me.
I
crossed
the
street.
I
go
back
this.
H
This
guy
is
following,
so
I
did
the
the
most
I
just
went
back
and
and
faced
him
directly
and,
and
he
and
hey
so
what's
up,
and
he
asked
me
for
my
phone
and
we
started
talking
and
he
said
like
no,
no,
I'm
gonna
steal
from
you.
I
was
like
okay,
so
we
had
this
conversation
and
I
decided
like
okay,
you're
gonna
steal
from
me.
There
is
no
way
you
had
a
gun
or
a
knife,
and
the
cops
are
right
here.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
passing
by
us.
So
let's
do
this
thing.
H
You're
gonna
steal
from
me,
but
let
me
speak
to
you
so
we
spent
about
two
three
hours
speaking
and
actually
we
went
to
to
an
atm
and
the
atm
didn't
work.
We
went
to
three
atms
at
the
tier
at
the
I
managed
to
get
some
money
out
and
gave
him
some
money,
but
the
conversation
about
the
value
and
why
he
why
he
did
the
things
he
did
why
he
went
out.
Actually
he
had
like
a
schedule.
He
went
out
two
three
times
a
week
to
steal
from
people.
H
H
H
So
I
don't
know
if,
what's
the
let's
say
the
let's
say
the
the
teaching
from
the
story,
but
I
was
I
just
started
thinking
about
it
and
it's
strange
because
thinking
about
values,
changing
caracas,
it's
crazy.
But
now
I
think
about
mostly
you
know,
money
as
language
value,
regenerative
communities
and
all
the
things
that
we
can
do
as
in
those
terms.
But
anyway
I
just
ramble
a
lot.
I'm
gonna
pass
it
to
jake
because
he's
always
had
some
fun
stuff
to.
I
Share
hi
guys,
I
admit
I
I'm
sorry,
I
had
to
I
kind
of
had
to
step
away
personally
outside.
So
I
again
I
apologize
olivia.
Could
you
give
me
a
brief
rundown.
I
Oh,
my
god,
wow.
Oh
awesome,
awesome
scarcity!
That's
why
everybody!
Everybody
is
conditioned
to
be
scared
of
money
and
the
truth
is
it's
energy,
and
that's
it
there's!
No
there's!
No!
No!
Nothing
else.
There's
no
number
of
value!
There's
no
name!
There's
nothing!
Money
is
energy
and
that's
it.
What
you
give
and
what
you
get
is
all
on
you,
that's
how
you
live
in
this
universe.
You
know
the
laws
of
attraction,
the
laws
of
abundance.
That's
what
I
look
at
so
like
the.
I
I
Does
the
tree
care
the
tree
just
continues
to
produce
leaves
endlessly
it
will
produce
leaves
for
every
branch
it
has
for
every
every
point
of
that
tree
that
that
tree
will
make
leaves
that
tree
will
also
produce
fruit.
Does
the
tree
care
about
how
much
fruit
it
produces?
Does
the
tree
care
about
how
much
fruit
isn't
used?
I
The
tree
just
produces
fruit?
Does
the
tree
next
to
it
care
about
how
much
true,
how
much
that
fruit
that
tree
is
producing?
They
just
continue
to
produce
fruit.
If
the
sun
is
there
and
the
air
is
there
and
the
water
is
there,
they
produce
fruit
and
leaves
they
don't
care.
The
universe
doesn't
care
it
just
produces
and
that's
all
it
does,
and
money
is
everywhere.
I
Money
is
is
everywhere.
Everything
you
need
is
everywhere,
but
we
have
been
conditioned
to
believe.
It's
not.
We've
been
conditioned
to
believe
that
it's
hard
to
get
we've
been
conditioned
to
believe
that
only
so
many
have
it
and
they're
the
only
ones
that
can
have
it.
No,
everybody
can
have
everything
there's
more
than
enough
for
everyone.
Now
that
doesn't
mean,
like
everyone
should
be
buco,
stupid,
rich
and
people
should
be,
unfortunately,
incredibly
cruelly
poor.
I
So
we
have
problems,
we
we
greatly
have
problems,
but
abundance
is
real
and
it's
up
to
us
to
help.
Others
understand
that
and
honestly
distribute
better
because
there's
more
than
enough
for
anyone,
we
can
all
have
a
better
life,
it
isn't
about
ubi,
it
isn't
about
government,
it
isn't
about
any
of
that.
The
universe
already
works
like
that:
we're
just
not
working
right
with
the
universe.
E
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
was
gonna,
say
something
similar
to
what
jake
said:
scarcity
mindset
and
it's
money
values
all
around
us,
but
the
money
that
we
use-
that's
created
by
banks
and
like
through
this
system
and
the
story
that
we
built
around
it.
You
can't
have
enough
money.
It's
not
like
leaves
on
a
tree
because
leaves
on
a
tree
actually
exist.
If
you
have
too
many
leaves
on
your
tree,
like
oh,
my
god,
there's
bugs
or
oh
that's.
I
have
to
pick
up
the
leaves
when
they
fall.
You
know
there's
real
problems.
E
If
you
have
too
many
mangoes
they're
rotting
in
your
back
porch,
you
can't
have
too
much
money.
Money
is
just
an
abstract
concept,
it's
a
story,
and
so
now
you
anytime
you're
talking
about
money
with
someone.
It's
like.
I
don't
have
enough.
I'm
hungry
you
get
you
get.
The
story
brings
our
human
like
reptilian,
mind
into
like
this
base
line
like
needs.
E
Now
I
need
more
money,
you
don't
see
bill
gates
or
elon,
musk
or
or
you
know,
what's
his
name,
jeff
bezos
being
like.
No,
I
have
enough.
I
got
enough
money
nah,
I'm
good.
Why
not
they
have
enough
money
right?
No,
because
the
story
is
broken.
We
can't
have
enough
money,
there's
no
carrying
cost,
you
know
so,
but
value
is
all
around
us
and
I
think
that
we
can
have
enough
trust
lines.
You
know,
I
think
we
could
have
enough
circles.
I
think
we
can
change.
E
We
can
change
the
story
of
money
by
changing
the
currencies
that
we
use,
honestly
and
and
the
stories
that
are
around
those
currencies
can
help,
can
help
change
things
most
cryptocurrencies
do
not
change
that
story.
They
don't
challenge
that
story.
You
can't
have
enough
bitcoin
right.
It's
store
value,
you
want
more
same
with
ether,
but
different
currencies
are
changing
that
story
in
the
crypto
space
and
I
think
that
it's
on
us
as
a
community
to
start
changing
that
story
because,
like
it's,
it's
gotten
us
really
far,
but
I
think
it.
E
I
think
it's
lost
it's
it's
starting
to
devolve
and
I
think
we
we
need
to
improve
it
instead
right,
so
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
change
the
to
build
a
better
money
that
has
a
better
story
so
that
we
don't.
So
it's
not
awkward
to
talk
about
so
that
you
can
have
enough.
In
fact,
maybe
everyone
should
have
enough.
E
You
know
is
isn't
why
not
right
like
ubi
currencies.
That
should
be
if
we
had
a
ubi
money.
I
think
there'd
be
a
lot
less
awkwardness
around
them,
I
mean,
but
who
knows
it's
a
theory
or
if
money
was
based
off
of
chocolate
beans,
you
know
or
coffee
beans
or
something
you
know,
then
maybe
maybe
you
could
have
enough
coffee
you're
like
yeah,
it's
actually
rotting.
I
have
too
much
coffee.
I
need
to
spend
it.
You
know
these
things.
I
think
this
would
change
the
awkwardness.
E
It's
really
the
the
unit
of
account
and
the
story
around
our
unit
of
account
that
is
and
I'll
pass
it
to
nate.
J
Yeah
I
mean
first
off
shout
out
to
olivia
for
hitting
these
dark
questions
right
at
the
beginning
of
these
they're
really
important
to
answer,
though,
I've
had
a
really
interesting,
it's
a
question
that
I've
been
trying
to
figure
out
my
entire
life.
Basically,
you
know
my
parents
were
never
good
at
talking
about
money
when
they
did.
J
It
usually
ended
up
with
fighting
her
arguments
and
growing
up,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
where
you
grow
up
at
a
cultural
perspective,
growing
up
in
alabama,
where
we
had
a
very
conservative,
political
and
economic
mindset,
we
were
always
attaching
money
to
you
know.
J
Money
was
a
representation
of
your
contribution
to
society,
and
if
you
didn't
have
a
lot
of
money,
then
you
haven't
contributed
a
lot
to
society,
and
that
was
the
perception
of
it,
and
so
there's
a
level
of
shame
or
level
of
you
know.
Fear
of
of
of
giving
that
information
out
or
sharing
how
much
money
you
had
with
each
other,
and
I
think
that's
you
know.
J
And
so
you
know
I
I
still
to
this
day
have
a
hard
time
talking
about
money,
because
that
was
just
so
ingrained
as
a
as
a
kid
growing
up,
and
you
know
and
to
my
detriment,
in
a
lot
of
ways,
because
I
never
really
got
the
education
about
how
to
handle
money,
how
to
manage
money,
how
to
talk
about
money,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
fall
into
that
category
and
it's
something
that
I
think
is
persistent
with
people
who
are
involved
in
the
crypto
industry
as
well.
J
You
know
it's
hard
for
me
to
say
you
know,
especially
if
you're
a
day
trader
or
something
like
that.
You
know
that
green
tick.
J
You
know
you
get
excited
seeing
your
your
money
go
up,
but
then
you,
you
know
every
time
you
see
that
red
tick,
your
gain
comes
at
somebody
else's
loss
and
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that's
that's
kind
of
the
the
fear
that
I
have
with
a
lot
of
people,
because
they're
going
to
assign
self-worth
towards
whatever
actions
they
have
with
money,
and
I
think
it's
just
an
important
thing
to
consider
so
yeah,
it's
a
good
question.
Thank
you
and
I'll
pass
it
to
tam.
D
So
why
is
it
uncomfortable
to
speak
about
money?
I
think
we
talk
about
money
all
day
long.
You
know
what
things
cost
if
we're
in
a
professional
context
might
be
budgets
or
negotiations.
D
But
we
don't
talk
about
like
our
money,
you
know
like
what's
my
salary
or
how
much
wealth
do
I
have
or
don't?
I
have,
and
I
feel
like
that's
where
the
taboo
is
and
for
things
like
salaries.
We
don't
talk
about
it
because
there
exists
so
much
injustice
and
how
salaries
are
are
given
so
people
doing
the
same
job
might
have
different
salaries
and
yeah.
I
feel
like
that's
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we
don't.
D
So
it's
how
some
people
measure
their
own
success
or
the
success
of
other
people,
and
it
invites
comparisons
and
judgments-
and
you
know
this
feeling
of
superiority
or
inferiority
which
are
can
both
be
really
uncomfortable
situations
to
be
in,
and
you
know
it's
ironic
that,
even
when
the
the
wealth
that
somebody
has
isn't
earned,
you
know
there
still
is
that
feeling
of
having
more
of
this
makes
the
value
of
that
human
life
higher
than
the
value
of
another
human
life,
and
I
think
something
I
really
like
what
juan
carlos
said
about
the
historical
perspective
around
how
great
wealth
has
been
accumulated
over
time
and
it's
based
on
the
expectation
of
other
humans
and
human
labor,
and
I
feel
like
there's
something
there's
something
really
to
remember
about
that
in
particular
that
it's
still
in
many
ways.
D
K
K
You
know
as
as
jake
especially
expounded
upon,
but
I
will
pause
it
that
when
when
and
then
this
goes
to
griff's
very
salient
point
about
needing
story
when
the
money
that
we
use
in
our
day-to-day
life
is
leveraged
into
existence
by
people
who
already
have
money
on
the
backs
and
the
struggles
of
the
working
class
and
poor
and
does
nothing
but
contribute
to
the
wage
debt
slavery
system,
then
any
amount
of
that
money
that
we
have
is
you
know,
and
I
mean
I'm
not
saying
I
don't
look
at
my
bags
and
cackle
with
all
the
air
drops.
K
I've
been,
but
none
of
it's
beyond
and
in
order
I
it's
it's
a
struggle
for
me
like
to
me
the
point
of
being
in
a
dow
that,
in
the
currency,
we're
running
in
places
is
so
that
you
can
generate
wealth
and
create
velocity
and
and
promote
a
feeling
of
abundance
carry
over
into
other
aspects
of
people's
lives
bitcoin
or
this
new.
K
This
gets
into
my
bitcoin
was
created
to
help
us
transcend
the
wage
debt
slavery
system
and
to
heal
money,
and
that's
why
bitcoin
mine,
the
origin
of
money
went
to
gold
and
slaves
working
old
mines.
I
mean
this
story
goes
back
that
hundred
literally
hundreds
of
thousands
of
years.
There
are
gold
mines
in
south
africa
that
are
pre-homo
sapien
sapien
that
have
been
dated
to
200
000
years
ago,
gold
mine.
So
this
isn't.
This
isn't
like
the
last
few
thousand
years
that
this
slavery
entered,
and
I
really
feel
like.
K
I
really
feel
like
bitcoin
got
co-opted
by
the
banksters
and
it's
been
kind
of
like
kind
of
pivoted
into
no
longer
be
healing
thing,
and
so
now
there's
like
an
uprising
of
that
are
that
are
creating
doubts
and
systems
and
methods
where
we
can
continue
our
journey
money,
and
I
don't
know
how
to
get
around
money
I
mean.
Ideally,
we
just
wouldn't
have
it
and
we'd
all
have
what
we
need
and
we
would
all
do
the
work
we
do
because
we
like
to
do
and
that's
how
I'm
trying
to.
K
K
K
A
Thanks
everyone,
I
hope
I
could
capture
most
of
it
in
the
notes,
but
I'll
listen
again
later
and
then
the
next
part
is
a
quick
brainstorming.
A
We
used
a
lot
of
time
on
this,
but
I
think
it
was
important
and
then
we
can
come
to
these
questions
with
more
of
like
everything
we
talked
about
in
mind.
So
if
you
can
come
into
the
notes,
doc
that
would
be
great
and
before
we
jump
in
it,
so
so
the
brainstorming
is.
I
put
three
questions
here
and
I
hope
we
can
get
a
little
silent
contribution
to
this
part.
So
you
can
pick
any
of
the
questions
that
you
want
to
answer
and
and
just
like
right
under
them.
A
So
just
a
quick
intro,
we
use
impact
hours
now,
so
we
use
the
prey
system
that
turns
into
impact
hours
and
the
impact
hours
will
become
tec
tokens
and
this
tec
tokens
will
be
distributed
to
all
of
the
people
that
initially
have
impact
hours
by
by
us.
So
they
won't
be.
A
It's
like
a
one-time
distribution
before
we
hatch
and
then
after
they
would
be
distributed
by
the
dow.
So
we
don't.
A
How
we're
gonna
make
this
transition
and
to
continue
to
reward
impact
hours,
because
from
my
understanding,
we
have
a
limitation
of
the
tech
to
how
many
people
can
receive
a
contribution
through
one
proposal.
So
I
wanted
to
clarify
that
with
you
griff,
so
how
many
people
can
be
rewarded
in
one
proposal
like
how?
How
many
addresses
can
we
put
there?
Is
it
just
one.
E
Yeah,
just
one,
but
most
at
least
with
one
hive.
What
usually
happens
is
the
money
go
funnels
into
another
system?
So
it's
like
conviction.
Voting
is
central
bank
and
there's
a
lot
of
partner
banks
right
that
get
funding
from
it.
There's
the
garden
swarm
now
the
common
storm,
there's
lunasworm,
there's
buzz!
There's
so,
like
you
have
these
other
little
groups
that
are
that
money
is
funneled
into
them
from
conviction
voting,
but
then
they
distribute
it
further
so
that
conviction
voting,
isn't
about
voting
on
every
little
detail
of
expenditure
right.
A
Cool
and
griff,
if
you
could
write
that,
like
just
a
brief
description
of
how
this
this
side,
banks
work,
that
would
be
awesome.
E
So
you
wanted
you
wanted
to
oh
under
what
are
all
the
options
funding.
Is
that
what
you,
where
you
want
talking.
E
A
Yeah
there's
a
lot
here.
Does
anyone
want
to
speak
about
their
points?
We
can
have
maybe
a
couple
of
points
and
then
I'll
pass
you
one
for
the
gravity
case
study.
E
So
I
I
want
to
mention
one
thing:
that's
a
little
outside
the
box
kind
of
critical
there's
a
huge
fear
around
like
supporting
public
goods
in
a
direct
way.
It's
like
hey.
I
want
to
pay
you
to
go,
do
good
work
right
and
you
get
this
salary
there's
like
a
a
fear
that
you
know,
especially
in
the
token
engineering
space,
that
research
is
like
art
like
a
creative
mindset,
that
when
it's
a
job,
it
actually
hurts
the
ability
for
it
to
happen.
E
You
know
that
it's
not,
it
doesn't
feel
as
clean
as
like
just
doing
it
for
intrinsic
motivation
and
there's
a
whole
working
group
omega
about
that
right.
So
I
would
love
to
see
some
work
around
that,
like
especially
if
we
could
have
awards
or
something
have
groups
of
people
who
are
like
paid
a
little
bit
as
a
job,
to
maybe
give
like
token
engineering
award.
You
know
for
the
most
important
you
know:
distribution,
creation
of
legible
stuff,
right
and,
and
maybe
that
award
is
just
acknowledgement.
E
I
mean
what
balancer
has
done
or
unisoft
has
done
is
incredible:
they
don't
need
money,
you
know
like
they
got
it.
They
printed
it
so
like
we
don't
need
to
give
them
money,
but
we
could
just
give
them
acknowledgement
and
highlight
their
work
and
make
them
feel
valued.
There's
a
lot
of
non-monetary
incentives
that
we
make
around
the
value
production
that
is
advancing
the
token
engineering
field,
so
so
yeah.
I
I
think
you
know
we
have
a
very
easy
mindset.
Oh
let's
pay
people
to
do
token.
E
E
That's
anyone
else
have
something.
C
I
I
think
I
agree
we
are
able
to
make
this
tao
this
whole
token
engineering
commons
such
such
a
success.
C
We
will
reach
a
point
that
we
will
get
rewarded
for
the
value
we
are
creating
and
we
shouldn't
have
a
problem
trying
to
reward
those
working
inside
to
to
you
know
with
with,
with
the
token
that
increases
its
value,
just
like
one
hive
is
finally
doing
you
know
and
all
and
all
those
other
dials.
C
C
F
Well,
I
think
we
can
like
also
offer
diverse
te
services
to
other
dows
like
certain
as
consulting
like.
Maybe
there
are
other
dows
that
would
like
to
improve
their
transparency
so
that
they
can
like
talk
with
sep
and
he
can
like
help
them
and
with
all
their
working
group
like
to
improve
their.
F
Transparency
and
like
that
in
in
in
the
like,
offering
the
modulations
and
also
offering
soft,
gob
and
cultural
build
like
helping
other
dogs
to
become
so
robust.
As
as
we
try
to
be.
A
And
then
you
suggest
charging
a
fee
or
something
for
it.
F
Yes,
yes,
but
like
two
other
dows
and
charge
charging
a
fee
for
for
that,
that
could
go
either
to
the
working
group
specifically
or
to
the
funding
pool.
F
E
It
could
be
like
a
b,
corp
style
right
where,
like
I've,
seen
a
few
auditing
firms
that
do
that
are
like
hey,
you
know
as
a
smart
contract,
audience
yeah
we
get
paid
to
do
this
for
people,
but
also
we
give
you
know.
10
of
our
time
goes
to
free
projects.
We
don't
charge
for
service
to
projects
that
meet
a
certain
threshold
and
you
can
apply
here.
You
know
it
could
be
like.
Maybe
it's
a
little
more
than
ten
percent.
E
Maybe
you
know,
seventy
percent
of
the
token
engineering
audits
are
done
at
a
cost
and
half
that
money
goes
to
the
dc
or
percentage
of
funding
goes
to
the
tc,
and
then
it's
like
to
pay
back
this
loan
effectively
that
we're
given
and
then
30
percent
of
our
time
goes
to
auditing
free
projects
that
can
apply
here
and
tec.
Token
holders
could
even
vote
on
token
log,
something
for
which
ones
of
those
projects
get
free
up.
E
E
Well,
this
is
this
is
always
up
to
the
organization
that's
requesting
right.
So
as
for
the
dow
there's,
not
a
dow,
it's
like
hey.
We
we
have
the
system,
we
send
money,
here's
our
terms
and
conditions
around
it
and
that's
it,
but
then
for
the
individual
organization.
They
just
received
funding
from
a
dow
first
off.
E
That's
a
challenge
I
mean
when
we
launched
the
dow.
The
big
blocker
was:
how
do
legal
entities
actually
receive
money
from
this
thing
and
we
had
to
create
dow
link,
which
was
basically
a
swiss
organization
that
charged
like
three
percent
and
they
gave
a
tax
id
number
to
the
people?
Actually,
you
know
there's
going
to
be
all
sorts
of
getting
money
from
dows
is
hard,
especially
they
want
a
tax
id
and
we
won't
have
one
so
there's
all
sorts
in
in
the
states.
E
It's
not
bad
in
switzerland,
they're
cool,
you
know,
so
there's
going
to
be
all
sorts
of
little
things.
If
someone
wants
me,
I
do
think
that
there
will
be
a
lot
of
people
that
are
also
down
to
just
do
their
own.
Individual
liability
receive
the
money
as
crypto
pay
taxes
on
it.
How
they
pay
taxes,
crypto,
call
it
an
income
and-
and
it's
good.
J
E
E
I
mean
it's
one
of
those
things
where
the
dow
isn't
providing
the
dallas
funding
service
provider
right
and
so
it
then
those
service
providers
provide
service
to
other
external
parties
in
this
case
or
to
the
dow
itself.
But
it's
not
there's
usually
going
to
be
one
step
away.
The
dow
can't
do
can
do
with
fun
stuff.
You
know
again,
we
can't
do
anything.
A
L
F
Okay
thanks:
it's
basically
that
I
want
to
share
the
case
that
we
are
going
to
work
on
thursday.
A
A
F
Sir
see
okay
that
I
I
want
to
share
the
case
that
we
are
going
to
have
a
role
play
shared
it
in
the
soft
gob
and
culture
telegram,
and
the
idea
is
that
we're
going
to
have
a
role
play
on
thursday,
but
we're
going
to
break
out
into
rooms
for
for
making
the
role
play.
F
But
it
would
be
really
nice
if
you
can
like
read
this
case,
explanation
before
the
the
graviton
training,
so
that
we
can
like
just
have
like
30
or
40
minutes
into
the
breakout
rooms
and
then
come
back
to
to
to
share.
How
was
the
experience
I
just?
It
was
just
that
anyone
has
any
answer.
Any
questions
about
that.
B
F
Yes,
that
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
to
like
clarify,
I
am
going
to
make
the
groups
in
the
trade
in
the
session
because
I
don't
know
how
many
people
is
going
to
arrive.
But
the
idea
is
that
everyone
has
studied
the
case
before,
so
that
we
don't
lose
so
much
time
explaining
the
case
and
we
can
like
split
in
the
rooms
to
that
to
make
the
the
the
work.
I
have
confidential
information
of
one
of
the
of
one
of
the
parties
for
from
both
of
the
parties.
F
So
the
idea
is
when
that,
when
I
split
the
group,
each
will
have
confidential
information
based
on
on
its
role
to
play
on
the
exercise,
and
I
think
we
can
have
like
two
or
three
groups
making
the
same
exercise
and
then
we
can
like
jump
to
a
big
session
where
we
can
share.
How
did
we
go.