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A
I
have
just
one
topic
in
the
agenda
today
because
it's
gonna
be
a
big
one,
more
like
a
workshop
type
of
thing,
and
the
question
is
so:
we've
been
all
trying
to.
There
was
this
action
in
one
of
the
sprint
retrospectives
to
rotate
more
the
facilitation
of
working
groups
and
I've
been
inviting
some
people
like
last
time.
A
Gideon
wanted
to
share
about
the
book
and
mao
manu
also
had
a
comment
about
a
book.
He
wanted
to
bring
some
learnings
through
soft
and
I
would
love
to
understand,
like
what
are
other
topics
we
should
be
touching
on
talking
about.
Is
there
something
that
a
cultural
topic
we
haven't
touched
on
yet
that
we
should
be
exploring
what
is
like
if
we
think
in
the
general
culture
of
the
tc?
A
Is
there
something
that
we're
not
paying
attention
at?
And
what
is
that?
And
I
would
love
to
hear
from
you
all
and
and
then,
depending
on
what
each
one
brings.
We
could
let
every
person
own
that
topic
a
little
bit
more
and
bring
discussions
and
possible
approaches
to
softcuff
that
we
could
explore
as
a
group,
so
hi
chuli,
huanka,
nate.
B
A
Yay,
thank
you
all
for
coming,
so
I
will
start,
and
just
for
I
don't
know
if
everyone
heard
that,
but
the
question
today
is:
is
there
a
cultural
topic
we
haven't
touched
on
yet
and
that
we
should
be
exploring,
and
then
the
idea
is
that
if
there
is
something
you
would
like
to
explore
or
that
that
you
see
the
necessity
of
it,
that
everyone
could
own
a
little
bit
this
topic
and
bring
more
discussions
and
make
some
threads
of
of
this,
make
it
a
work
stream
in
softgov,
hey
bonjour,.
A
A
I
think
we
don't
speak
enough
about
that.
I
think
it's
quite
an
elephant
in
the
room
and
it
shouldn't
be.
If
we
are
building
new
systems
new
cultures,
we
should
have
an
awareness
of
race,
especially
gender,
also,
but
I
think
race
has
even
like
a
deeper
ground
there.
We
don't
have.
We
don't
have
anyone
that
is
very
active
in
the
core
of
our
community.
A
We
don't
have
a
black
person
who
is
in
the
core
of
our
community
right
now,
and
I
think
this
is
something
very
important
to
note
and
to
like,
not
run
away
from
and
understand
how
we
can
bring
this
discussions
in
a
way
that
is
constructive
and
an
open
space
for
people
who
are
not
here
to
be
here
and
also
gender.
Not
only
I
mean
all
expressions
of
gender
and
how
this
would
change
a
lot
of
our
behavior
in.
A
I
think
I
think
race
and
gender
will
inevitably
change
our
understanding
of
culture,
because
it's
so
much
of
our
expression
and
people
have
different
experiences
in
life
and
the
more
experiences
we
have
represented
in
the
community,
the
more
resilient
we
are
and
more
valuable
discussions.
We
can
have
that.
Maybe
we
are
blind
to
them
right
now.
We
have
very
little
women
in
the
community
still
and
very
little
trans
or
queer
people
in
the
community
still
also.
So
those
are
my
points
and
I'll
pass
to
cuanca.
D
Great
question
levy
yeah,
I
think,
on
what
you
were
saying
on
race
and
gender.
I
think
like
durga
has
spoken
about
the
40
acres.
Now,
that
is
a
dao
that
has
a
lot
of
of
of
of
concern
around
this,
and
also
I
was
thinking
about
psychology.
D
I
think
it's
such
an
interesting
topic
and
I
am
happy
that
we
are
making
some
efforts
around
this
with
bianca
and
anna,
and
I
also
think
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
like
me,
but
like
thinking
also
on
on
helping
people
who
is
not
web3
native,
like
I
still
see
like
a
very
different
reality
every
time
I
step
out
of
my
house
from
the
reality
that
I
live
here,
because
I
see
so
much
people
in
need
and
it
would
be
really
cool
if
we
can
do
something
about
that.
D
Yeah,
like
I,
I
love
the
ubi
projects,
and
sometimes
I
I
have
even
like
made
my
own
like
group
here,
but
it
would
be
really
cool
if
we
can
even
help
the
people
yeah
who
is
who
is
in
the
streets.
A
Okay,
I
just
want
to
say
hi
to
viveyv,
and
the
question
we're
talking
today
is:
is
there
a
cultural
topic
we
haven't
touched
on
yet
that
we
should
be
exploring
and
you
passed
you
chewy
yeah.
B
I
feel
that
I
mean
I'm
I'll
just
I'll
just
take
a
chance
and
and
share
this,
but
I
I
feel
in
a
very
similar
way
to
what
you
were
saying
livi,
but
I
feel
that
there
should
also
be
maybe
some
input
in
in
the
like
the
religion,
part
of
it
or
or
just
like
different
beliefs
within
the
community.
B
I
also
believe
that
this
form
of
diversity
sometimes
can
teach
us
a
lot
about
our
different
cultures
and
just
a
wider
comprehension
and,
and
also
I
personally
feel
that
we
have
inherited
a
lot
of
bad
practices
around
like
religion.
But
I
also
feel
that
there
are
some
really
good
ones
that
we
can
learn
from
and
we
don't
speak
a
lot
about
diversity
in
this
sense
and-
and
I
also
feel
that
it
could
be
nice
to
share
these
more
ancient
form
of
forms
of
knowledge.
B
And
I
I
do
feel
that
I
mean
not
not
getting
into
the
political
side
of
it,
of
course.
But
but
I
feel
that
there
is
a
lot
in
general
that
we
can
learn
from
ancient
cultures,
so
sometimes
trying
to
approach
a
belief
system
and
can
be
a
great
way
to
not
only
learn
and
be
more
educated
about
it,
but
to
also
reflect
on
on
different
practices
and
and
just
yeah,
just
like
cultures
in
in
in
general.
B
I'll
pass.
Oh
and
I
apologize
in
advance,
but
I
might
have
to
leave
this
call
a
little
bit
earlier,
but
yeah
just
letting
you
know
and
I'll
pass
it
to
nate.
E
Thanks
julie,
yeah,
so
I
guess
it's
kind
of
a
difficult
point,
but
I
would
say
mental
health
and
and
kind
of
this.
E
You
know
this
shadow
that
we
all
don't
speak
about
a
lot
which
is
working
within
web3
and
within
a
dow
and
the
type
of
issues
that
come
along
with
it:
financial
insecurity,
those
those
types
of
feelings,
personal
development.
E
How
are
we
progressing
as
individuals
within
what
we
would
consider
traditionally
as
a
career,
and
and
are
we
all
moving
to
where
we
want
to
be
things
of
that
nature?
I
think
that
will
weigh
down
on
the
individual
over
time
and
something
that
I
think
we
don't
take
pay
too
much
attention
to,
and
so
I
think
that's
really
something
that
we
should
really
focus
on
in
terms
of,
especially
in
terms
of
personal
development.
E
You
know
we
want
everybody
to,
you
know
be
here
and
then
once
they
leave
here
to
be
better
in
a
better
position
to
move
themselves
forward
and
their
work
and
what
they
enjoy
after
they
leave
and
so
yeah.
That
would
be
my
my
big
one.
I
think
that's
something
that
we
kind
of
overlook
all
the
time
and
so
yeah,
that's
it
and
I
will
pass
it
over
to.
F
G
I
have
a
few
comments
to
say
the
first
one
is
that
I
do
believe
there
is.
I
can
count
around
probably
six
or
ten
queer
people
in
this
community.
The
thing
is
that
I
feel
there
is
no
space
to
visibility
for
them.
So,
even
if
there
is
more,
we
just
don't
provide
a
space
and
the
same
happens
with
women.
G
The
same
same
happens
with
any
minority
in
in
in
the
idea
space
in
the
web
through
spaces
that
we
are
not
providing
a
space
for
them
to
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
to
provide
a
special
attention
or
or
anything,
but
just
making
a
conscious
effort
to
leverage
the
miss
opportunities
that
that
already
exists.
So
I
feel
we
do
not
make
an
effort
on
that.
We
do
not
make
an
effort
on
inclusivity
basically
and
the
fact
that
we
are
radically
open
source
on
the
social
aspect.
It
stays
very
passive.
G
It
doesn't
become
an
active
action,
so
that
is
something
that
is
something
that
I
feel
needs
to
be
talked
more
in
general
minorities
and
and
the
inclusion
in
in
the
token
engineering
space
is
not
only
that
it's
not
only
about
tc.
It's
about
token
academy,
too,
to
the
three
presentations
I
have
made
on
on
token
academy.
Most
of
them
are
white
people
seeking
for
the
knowledge,
so
I
feel
there
should
be
this
active.
G
You
know
sort
of
action
to
involved
different
people
from
different
backgrounds,
and
for
me
this
is
a
little
bit
of
also
what
durga
has
mentioned
regarding
the
structure,
the
power
structures
and
how
we
need
to
deconstruct
these
power
structures
that
are
more
mentally
than
anything
else,
and
because,
if
we
are
not
providing
space
or
inclusion
space
for
minorities,
that
means
we
still
hold
certain
mental
and
social
power
structure,
and
we
are
still
sort
of
perpetrating
these
models
in
the
organization
in
a
way
or
another.
So
yeah.
G
I
will
probably
think
on
that
there
is.
There
is
a
various
organizations
that
we
can
sort
of.
You
know
sort
of
rely
or
help
us
to
empower
like
surge
woman,
which
is
a
project
that
it
helps
to
empower
women
to
enter
the
web
to
space,
and
there
is
you
know
such
a
variety
of
research
possibilities
there.
Then.
G
The
other
points
that
I
that
I
wanted
to
discuss
is
we,
I
feel-
and
I
don't
know
you
can
correct
me
living
on
this,
but
I
feel
we
drop
the
ball
on
on
austrian
principles
and
how
they
are
applicable
in
the
tc.
Like
I
see
that
I
feel
like
it
could
be,
I
feel
like
as
a
cultural
practice.
G
We
do
not
have
this
process
of
checking
if
how
how
has
passed
like
we
have
had
almost
two
years
here
and
how
are
the
option
principles
like
what
has
been
the
goal,
what
has
been
the
evolution
of
those
western
principles
within
the
organization,
how
it
started
first
and
how
it
has
evolved
within
the
organization
and
where,
where,
where
will
be
the
next
steps
or
where
will
be
the
the
advancements
that
we
have
done
upon
austrian
principles,
because
I
feel
it's
such
a
it's
such
a
reliable
and
nice
cultural
practice
that
we
have,
but
we
don't
discuss
about
them.
G
We
just
we
just
say
we
apply
them,
but
we
don't.
We
actually
don't
get
too
deep
into
that,
and
I
feel
that
should
be
something
that
we
should
talk
more
often
in
the
last
point
that
they
mentioned
right
reliability.
G
I
think
many
of
us
realize
not
realize,
but
like
we,
we
just
assume
that
you
know
the
funding
proposal
passed
for
the
next
three
or
six
months.
We
will
have
an
income,
but
then
what
happens
after
there's?
No
right,
there's
no
reliability,
and
it's
not
something
about
these
in
general,
the
web
transpace,
and
I
feel
that
bring
certain
level
of
certainty.
You
know
because
you
still
have
social
security
or
you
still
need
to
pay
insurance.
You
need
to
you
know,
there's
those
things
don't
rely
on
three
months.
G
H
H
A
Points
we
have
been
discussing
in
softcup
for
a
while,
and
I
just
don't
want
to
extend
too
much
on
it,
because
we
we
can
touch
on
them
later
and
do
you
want
to
pass
to
someone.
G
Sure
bye.
H
I
like
to
reassociate
with
open
source
movement,
and
you
know-
and
you
know,
do
we
want
to
put
more
effort
behind
making
more
empowered
projects
that
are
more
open
and
transparent
to
people
that
are
that
aren't
necessarily
entering
the
community
so
like
if
you
notice
most
of
our
projects
are
contributed
to
only
by
people
that
are
entering
the
community.
H
So
from
what
I
understand
about
the
movement,
it's
much
more
suck
up
an
open
source.
It
is
a
much
more
successful
project.
If
you
know
people
external
people,
that
you
know
randomly
open
issues
or
you
know,
people
that
are
using
the
tech
notice
issues,
they
can
reasonably
contribute
and
open
issues,
and
I
personally
don't
see
that
like
and
there's
also
like
a
lack
of
documentation
in
some
of
our
projects.
So
this
isn't
exactly
a
cultural
discussion.
Is
it?
I
Sure
thanks,
so
I
think
I
agree
with
pretty
much
what
everyone
has
said.
I
would
probably
want
to
continue
on
what
that
nate
said
about.
I
don't
remember
exactly
about
personal
development
and
in
culture.
I
There
got
us,
for
example,
yesterday,
on
a
stewards
on
the
seawards
meeting,
they
get
us
asked
like
how
how
do
like
he
saw
a
lot
of
people
that
are
going
continuously
to
the
various
meetings
around
the
world
and
he
sort
of
wondered.
How
does
that
work,
if,
like
they
paid
out
of
their
pocket
or
if
there's
was
any
kind
of
sponsorship,
or
something
like
that,
and
I
think
first
of
all,
I
think
that's
interesting,
because
the
space
isn't
particularly
hard,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
you
cannot
like.
I
I
I
Probably
he
he
just
wants
to
to
sort
of
grow
his
network
and
know
more
people,
and
just
you
know,
just
just
grow
himself
as
an
individual
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
say
that
it
would
probably
be
interesting
if
we
could
bring
people
from
other
communities
to
talk
about
their
culture,
because
it's
easy
to
get
them
sort
of
caught
up
in
what
we
do
and
what
we
think.
But
there's
I
guess
the
same
as
bringing
the
diversity
to
the
tdc
is
good.
I
I
think
bringing
diversity
to
our
opinions
and
how
we
perceive
everything
could
be
also
and
yeah
I'll
pass
it
on
to
monkey.
I
think.
C
C
C
We
can't
do
that
if
we
don't
take
care
of
ourselves
first,
so
I
agree
with
nate
it's
very
important
that
we
we
understand
that
these
are
the
tools
that
we
use
to
help
society,
but
the
limitations
of
those
tools,
and
perhaps
some
of
the
drawbacks,
so
maybe
tc
can
implement
something
like
or
stays
off,
or
at
least
encourage
members
to
take
some
time
off,
get
away
from
the
screens
get
away
from
technology,
maybe
decompress
in
nature,
whatever
it
is
that
you
do
to
unwind,
take
some
time
to
do
that.
C
What
chewie
said
about
religion,
I
think
if
we
have
a
diversity
in
religion,
diversity
of
people
genders
lgbtq,
hindus,
buddhists,
muslims,
christians,
etc.
They
they
tend
to
not
always,
but
they
tend
to
bring
diversity
of
thought.
C
So
someone
from
a
different
religious
sect
will
have
tend
to
have
different
views
on
subjects,
and
I
think
that
defeats
this
potential
of
an
echo
chamber,
especially
in
web
3,
when
you
have
you
tend
to
have
like
uniform
ideas
so
that
that'll
combat
any
potential
of
like
an
echo
chamber,
which
I
think
most
people
would
agree,
is
bad.
So
that's
it
yeah.
I
agree
with
auntie
nate
and
chewie
and
I
will
pass
it
to
zeptimus.
J
Thank
you.
I
actually
like
have
different
kind
of
different
opinions
in
that
point
of
inclusion,
and
it's
like
for
me
like.
If
you
are,
you
know
trying
to
get
people,
I
don't
know
like
women
or
black
people
or
whatever
you
are
being
racist.
Somehow
like
you
are
assuming
like
they
cannot
reach
to
here
by
themselves,
so
you
you're
assuming
like
they
need
your
help
like.
J
For
me,
the
most
important
thing
is
like
respect
and
and
and
things
happens
right
like
in
modeling,
probably
there's
more
women
in
in
nba
nba,
like
there's
a
lot
of
black
people,
and
you
know
it's
because,
like
probably
their
genetics
or
you
know
their
skills
like
every
time
like
people
just
go
to
where
they
fit
like
in,
like
even
in
working
group
like
if
you
go
to
common
swarm,
there
was
only
men
like
because
they
like
to
do
that
like
it,
but
it
doesn't
mean,
like
you
know
like
you,
cannot
be
a
woman
and
deploy
your
skills
as
a
dev
and
go
there.
J
No
one
is
stopping
you
from
that,
but
it's
like
every
people
is
choosing
their
path
and
yeah
and
what
would
happen
like,
if
will
smith
would
be
white
when
he
slapped
chris
rock,
like
the
media
would
be
quite
different,
but
yeah
just
that
for
that.
Regarding
the
topic,
one
thing
I
would
like
I
would
love
like
we
could
develop
on
softcuff
it's
in
the
oh.
J
I
lost
my
thought
but
yeah
when
I'm
doing
the
audit
and
for
the
accountability
like
there's
some
some
people
that
say,
okay,
the
days
are
going
to
be
on
on
calls
so
yeah
the
goals
are
recorded,
but
it's
very
hard
to
track.
What
has
been
done?
I
mean
you
should
watch
all
the
course.
So
I
would
love
like
you,
have
some
kind
of
process
for
gathering
yeah
all
the
information
like
more
concrete,
so
it
wouldn't
make
transparency
life
quite
easier.
C
Olivia,
may
I
just
add
so
I
described
the
issues
that
that
I'm
concerned
of,
but
I
didn't
propose
a
solution.
So
perhaps
maybe
we,
the
tec,
can
implement
like
a
meditation,
some
kind
of
meditation
community
or
some
sort,
where
it's
just
an
idea
that
people
people
get
together
and
they
they
meditate
in
front
of
with
their
with
their
cameras
on.
A
That
should
the
next
point
of
this
talk
just
to
go
through
each
one
of
the
things
that
were
suggested
and
understand.
If
people
would
like
to
own
them
to
propose
a
solution,
and
then
we
could
have
a
series
in
soft
gov
that
is
hosted
by
different
people
who
are
proposing
some
type
of
action
for
those
topics.
A
Do
you
we
could
use
this,
this
call
to
go
deeper
on
them,
but
also
there
was
another
topic
I
wanted
to
dive
in.
That
is
related
to
this,
but
it's
this
the
metrics
that
we've
been
talking
for
a
while,
and
there
was
some
progress
on
them.
So
there's
some
questions
from
here
too
that
we
could
probably
look
at
together.
A
Do
you
guys
think
that
if
we
do,
my
proposal
is
maybe
coordinating
async
in
the
chat
tagging
each
one
of
you
who
mentioned
some
of
this
topics
and
seeing
if
we
could,
if
we
could
coordinate
for
the
next
calls
to
have
a
proposal
for
each
one
of
them?
What
do
you
think.
I
Cool,
I
wanted
to
say
also
that
maybe
there's
there's
just
so
much
we
can
do
in
an
hour,
but
maybe
we
should
bring
back
the
meditation.
I
remember
on
two
sessions.
We
started
with
meditation.
That
was
really
nice.
Oh
yeah.
A
H
Yeah,
that's
related
to
the
conversation
we
were
having
about
source
credit
in
in
the
praise
discussion
channel.
So
this
is
one
that
was
from
a
different
context.
I
just
message
that
now,
sir.
H
Yeah
yeah,
since
I
think
some
of
the
conversation
reward
pools
having
a
little
while
to
go
was
since
there's
there
might
be.
H
You
know
diminished
amount
of
contributors
to
source
grid,
so
it
would
probably
go
unmaintained
after
a
while,
and
you
know,
if
we're
looking
for
another
system,
if
we're
making
an
application
that
tracks
all
of
these
metrics,
we
could
probably
use
the
same
application,
and
you
know
we
can
get
the
grade
algorithm
out
of
source
grid
and
do
the
same
quantification
in
this
application
and
then
link
it
with
the
minting
application
that
plays
source
credit
would
use
combined
together,
but
yeah.
That's
something
that
would
probably
need
more
refinement.
A
Yeah,
that
could
be
a
solution
for
sure.
If
we
look,
maybe
even
karma
would
be
something
that
works
here
so
just
as
a
just
to
update
everyone
on
what
is
this,
and
that
goes
to
your
point.
To
do
of
we've
been
working
on
this
for.
A
Quite
some
time,
and
and
recently
I
was
speaking
to
my
hash
and
and
seed
code
from
karma
and
then
also
bands
and
vivi,
and
we
were
talking
of
like
how
could
we
create
some
metrics
to
measure
ecosystem
health?
That
was
my
main
point.
Let's
that's
the
biggest
thing.
I've
been
thinking
for
soft
gob
for
a
long
time
like
how
could
implementing
astrum's
principles
be
something
sustainable
and
something
that
offers
insights
on
the
health
of
the
ecosystem
like
how
can
how
can
ecosystem
health
be
measured
and
in
different
communities?
A
So,
in
the
in
the
governor's
reward
system,
research
group,
we
were
looking
into
health
metrics
for
different
communities
and,
and
then
each
community
has
their
own
structure,
and
this
structure
will
tell
a
lot
about
the
interactions
that
people
have
there
and
what
this
health
means
for
that
system
and
for
the
tc,
something
that
was
discussed.
A
lot
was
that
health
meant
how
well
the
astrum's
principles
are
implemented
and
and
how
this
is
helping
us
to
achieve
the
mission
of
advancing
the
field
of
token
engineering.
G
I
saw
your
message
asking
for
clarification
regarding
this
card.
G
If
I'm
not
wrong,
and
then
we
have
had
this
conversation
on
commit
us
for
a
while
and
benz
has
sort
of
the
one
trying
to
come
up
with
what
kind
of
metrics
make
sense,
I
think
there's
a
threat
on
communities
regarding
this
to
you
guys
meet,
but
in
general
in
general
sense
I
will
say
that
for
the
past
time
there
are
metrics
that
are
native
to
our
community,
as
you
mentioned,
for
example,
involvement
of
people
in
in
the
prey
system
that
will
be
a
metric
interested
that
will
say
a
lot
about
the
health
of
our
community,
because
if
suddenly,
you
have
a
drop
of
activity
in
praise.
G
That
means
something
is
going
on
in
the
community
something
along
those
lines,
but
there
should
be
also
metrics
that
aims
to
improve
aspects
of
the
tc.
For
example,
we
can
talk,
I'm
just
going
to
make
up,
but
how
many,
how
many,
how
many
spaces
we
held
for
mental
health
or
or
all
this
kind
of
stuff?
So
I
feel
there
are
different
aspects
of
metrics
that
could
be.
G
You
know
quantify
as
metrics
one
that
are
given
by
discord,
but
the
same
the
same
platform
such
as
how
many
people
came
back
after
a
week,
how
many
people
engage
in
text
and
how
many
people
engaged
in
voice
channels.
That's
all
those
are
metrics
that
are
given
by
discord
itself,
but
there
are
other
ones
that
I
will
say
we
should
come
up
with
as
a
way
to
understand
other
aspects
of
the
health
that
is
not
necessarily
relying
on
discord
native
metrics.
I
don't
know
if
that
makes
sense.
A
Yeah,
those
are
not
all
discord
native
metrics
feel
free
to
look
at
the
ones
that
are
here
and
if
you
see
something
missing
to
put
a
post-it,
we've
been
working
on
this
board.
It's
the
tc
retrospective
board,
it's
in
the
agenda
now
and
nice.
Thank
you.
So
yeah
we've
been
trying
to
see
like
what
are.
A
What
are
the
implementations
of
each
one
of
the
principles
here
in
the
bottom
and
what
are
some
of
the
metrics
here
on
top
and
then
the
challenge
of
the
matrix
was
some
of
them
are
not
the
process
we've
been
doing
now
and
we're
working
with
benz.
He
just
couldn't
come
today,
but
the
the
process
we've
been
looking
at
is:
is
this
a
metric
that
has
a
does?
It
has
a
measure
like?
Can
we
already
measure
and
track
that
data?
A
A
So
we
were
trying
to
separate
into
this
three
buckets
kind
of,
and
thank
you
so
much
bye
for
all
the
comments
you
left
here,
because
I
think
they're
super
helpful
of
some
of
the
things
we
can
already
track
and
then
this
one
I
tagged
you
would
do
because
I
know
there
was
a
dashboard
that
you
were
using
to
track
some
activity
from
this
chord.
At
some
point
I
don't
know
how
is
yeah
is
that
still
active.
G
Yeah,
this
is
still
active.
Everyone
can
check
it
out.
So
basically,
if
you
right
click
on
tc,
I
mean
anyone,
the
ones
with
permit
and
you
go
to
server
adjustment.
There
is
a
category
called
information
of
the
server
and
it's
just
above
partner
program
and
under
that
category
you
will
see
them.
G
You
will
see
a
pop-out
and
then
you
have
to
click
on
another
link
that
says
there,
and
it
will
take
you
to
the
detailed
information
of
all
this,
but
we
already
have
pauses
this
information
so
yeah
we
I
I
will
answer.
I
will
answer
this
on
the
middle
board
and
then
we
can
see
how
that's
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
ben
sort
of
are
trying
to
figure
it
out.
Also.
A
H
H
Only
people
that
have
server
edit
permissions
can
view
the
official
dashboard
metrics
on
the
on
the
webpage.
That
discord
shows.
H
H
We
just
need
to
make
a
bot
that
that
just
listens
to
events
happening
in
the
server
and
just
logs.
Everything,
and
you
can
get
all
that
redraw
data
and
you
can
do
whatever
analysis
we
want
to
do
on
top
of
that.
So
we
can.
You
know,
because
there's
multiple
meanings
of
lurkers
like
are
they
lurking
in
the
chat?
H
But
are
they
just
straightening
calls,
or
are
there
someone
that
attends
the
calls
and
can
participate
in
the
conversation,
because
I
think
so
a
lot
of
people
in
the
tc
who
who
might
not
be
communicating
in
the
discord,
but
they
do
attend
a
lot
of
the
calls,
because
a
lot
of
the
actions
are
happening
inside
the
calls.
So
we
will
probably
need
a
lot
more
data
for
that
yeah.
H
G
This
card
has
three
kind
of
categories,
for
this,
like
one
is
a
lurker
which
depends
on
the
amount
of
time
that
person
spends
on
discord
in
the
in
the
in
the
discord
of
the
community,
and
then
they
also
have
two
other
categories,
which
one
is,
I
don't
remember
the
names,
but
there
is
one
for
people
who
text
and
there
is
other
people
who
joins
a
voice
channel,
doesn't
matter
how
long
and
they
they
they
are
not
categorized
as
lockers.
They
are
just
have
a
separate
category
for
that
and
they
quantify
that
too.
H
Yeah
you're
talking
about
the
engagement
screen
right,
where
it
shows
different
menus
for
message,
activity
and
voice
activity
right.
G
A
Okay,
so
can
I
so
you,
both
and
and
benz,
are
taking
a
look
on
this
point
right.
I
Is
that
participation
just
like
social
participation
or
are
we
looking
also
at
governance?
Participation
on,
I
don't
know,
snapchat
and
gardens.
A
Yeah
governance
participation
is
a
metric
that
karma
could
track,
so
we're
still
understanding
if
we
should
use
the
karma
dashboard
that
is
kind
of
bitcoin
uses
karma
a
few
other
communities.
You
use
karma
it's
it's
kind
of
a
reputation
system
that
yeah
gets
data
from
a
few
of
these
activities,
so
get
coin,
for
example,
sees
how
many
people
commented
on
forum
posts,
how
many
forum
posts
how
many
dows
they're
part
of
how
how
much
they
voted.
A
A
The
idea
what
I
was
thinking
is
that
each
one
each
one
of
this
of
this
principles
would
be
kind
of
a
cluster
of
metrics
and
then
having
a
few
metrics
together,
we
could
set
up
how
much
is
an
okay
metric
for
that
principle
in
specific,
so
taking
perhaps
an
average
of
all
these
metrics
that
belong
to
this
principle
and
then
having
a
a
measure
of
like.
A
Let's
say
we
have
three
colors
if,
if
clearly
defined
boundaries
is
on
red,
we
understand
that
our
boundaries
are
weak
and
that
we
should
be
looking
into
that
and
then
to
look
into
that.
We
would
look
into
each
one
of
the
metrics
individually
and
see
which
one
of
them
is
unbalanced
and
that
should
receive
more
attention.
A
A
H
Yeah
in
an
ideal
scenario,
all
the
proposals
that
are
passing
should
be.
We
should
be
proposing
that
are
completely
aligned
with
our
mission.
However,
that
is
probably
not
true,
and
we
should
assume
that
it
wouldn't
be
true.
So
there's
you
know
it's
really
subjective.
H
H
We
have
like
a
review
group
of
thoughts
inside
the
dc.
That's
that
you
know
they're
just
comments,
no,
no,
not
comments.
I
just
reviews
proposals
and
you
know
gives
them
a
alignment
score,
maybe
something
like
quantifiers
or
maybe,
stewards
and
maybe
a
slightly
significant
amount
of
people.
H
But
then
again
it's
it's
really
hard
to
get
that
kind
of
metric.
Since
it's
like
there's
a
wide
variety
of
proposals
and
a
lot
of
them
would
probably
not
exactly
a
line.
So
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
say
like,
for
example,
right
now,
there's
multiple
working
groups
and
they
have
funding
proposals
on
on
the
on
the
gardens
and
say,
for
example,
one
day
you
know
the
tc.
Doesn't
you
know
the
the
comms
dow
is
moving
into
a
different
direction
than
the
tc's
mission?
H
So
would
we
call
that
as
like
aligned
with
the
tc
or
not
so
there's
a
lot
of
like
decisions
that
need
to
be
made?
And
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
you
know
unstructured
way
of
doing
this.
E
I
just
want
to
add
that
I
think
we
really
need
to
define
what
aligned
means
for
the
tec.
I
know
we
have
this
kind
of
broad,
ambiguous
type
of
mission
statement
and
a
lot
of
things
can
be
interpreted,
and
so
I
feel
like
if
we
can
define
some
type
of
qualities
that
that
these
proposals
hold.
It
would
help
us
along
the
way
of
measuring
that.
E
But
right
now
it's
it's
very,
very
broad
where
it's
just
like
you
know,
I
would
say
you
know
like,
like
my
initial
reaction
to
the
num
focus
proposal.
Was
you
know
not
in
alignment,
but
there
was
an
angle
there
that
you
know
zargham
kind
of
pointed
out
that
pushed
into
alignment
in
my
opinion,
and
so
it's
just
one
of
those
things
because
like
it
could
be
aligned
from
intent,
but
the
execution
of
it
could
be
completely
off
base
and
it
wasn't
aligned.
E
After
all,
probably
not,
and
so
I
don't
know
it's
one
of
those
things
that
we
have
to
really
just
work
on,
defining
what
what
it
means
to
be
aligned
with
our
mission.
A
Yeah,
that
is
a
good
point.
I
wonder
if
we
are
ready
to
do
that
yet
or
if
we
need
to
have
more
proposals
to
gather
some
type
of
community
sentiment,
like
five
of
you
said,
maybe
after
we
could
propose
something
that,
like
after
three
months,
we
have
a
sentiment
analysis
like
from
the
proposals
that
passed
in
the
last
three
months
and
then
listing
them
all
and
then
asking
like
how
was
the
percentage
of
alignment
someone
perceived
from
that
proposal
and
then
just
showing
that
that
analysis
as
a
graph,
instead
of
taking
any
conclusion.
E
Yeah-
and
I
I
would
say
that
that's
difficult
too,
because
it's
very
subjective
and
like
this
is
kind
of
my
argument
with
like
the
non-focus
one,
was
that
there
there
are
no
analytics
for
that
type
of
proposal.
You
know
we're
just
trusting
a
third
party
to
actually
advance
token
engineering
in
a
way
that
cannot
be
quantified
or
subject
to
our
evaluation,
and
so
I
really
I
would
love
to
see
more
requirements
for
proposals
to
have
you
know
tangible
outcomes
that
are
achieved.
E
A
Otherwise
we
might
get
to
stiff
and
stiffness
is
like
the
opposite
of
resilience
and
then
maybe
we
would
become
bureaucratic
instead
of
like
actually
helping
to
understand,
because
at
this
point
we're
also
understanding
what
belongs
to
the
field
of
token
engineering,
and
I
think
this
should
be
relevant,
so
maybe
having
an
analytic
that
is
very
subjective,
but
just
showing
that
to
the
community.
So
there's
always
an
awareness
of
where
we're
going
could
be
interesting.
E
And
I
I
do
agree
with
that,
and
I
think
that
you
know
there's
we
we've
talked
about
how
we
can
you
know
prevent
that
type
of
bureaucracy
from
forming,
but
we
don't
also
analyze
the
opposite
into
that
spectrum.
Where
we
have
you
know
our
funds
being
completely
depleted
by
projects
that
promised
to
advance
token
engineering
and
their
impact
is
nil.
You
know-
and
so
I
think,
that's
something
that
we
don't
have
protections
for
in
the
opposite
direction.
I
think
that's
something
we
should
take
into
consideration
as
well.
H
Multi-Level
classification
of
proposals
might
be
useful
so
like
we
make
for
we,
we
decide
on
what
does
add
value
to
the
space
now,
because
there
are
certain
things
that
do
add
value
that
we
can
somehow
agree
on.
So,
for
example,
if
someone's,
if,
for
example,
t
academy
is
taking
sessions
and
educating
people
about
the
space
and
getting
more
people
into
token
and
cheating,
that
is
equivalent
to
accelerating
token
engineering.
H
So
that's
like
a
class
of
say,
proposals
that
you
can
group
them
into
and
then
you
know,
other
class
would
be
internal
services
that
are
happening
inside
the
dc,
and
you
know
you
know
things
that
felt
dc
function
and
we
can
have
some
form
of
grouping
like
that.
H
That
makes
it
slightly
more
specific
to
find
out
if
what
a
proposal
actually
is
and
if
we
can
call
it
aligned,
it
was
like
the
mission
is
very
broad
and
you
know
we
can
also
revisit
all
the
conversation
that
was
happening
when
we
were
coming
up
with
the
mission
emission
vision
values.
There
was
a
lot
of
good
arguments
made
over
there.
I
think
we
can
have
a
look
at
that
data
and
try
to
make
a
more
defined
picture
for
a
proposal.
It's
it's
not
going
to
be.
H
H
The
reason
for
having
this
just
just
for
the
metric,
because,
but
you
know
for
because
it's
that's
subjective,
if
you're
doing
like
sentiment
analysis
from
this,
it's
going
to
be
really
hard
to
make
it
unbiased,
because
at
some
point
of
time
we're
gonna
have
to
take
three
or
four
people,
and
or
maybe
more
than
that
and
tell
and
tell
them
to
say
if
this
is
aligned
or
not
or
something
of
the
sort.
If
it
automatically
doing
sentiment
analysis
that
would
be
hard.
E
Yeah,
I
I
don't
know
how
I
feel
about
sentiment.
Analysis
like
I
you
know,
and
then
I'm
going
to
bring
up
num
focus
again,
because
I
think
it's
a
prime
example
of
it.
There's
like
there's
nobody
in
the
world
who's
going
to
say
that
that
that
proposal
is
not
aligned,
but
the
intent
behind
it
is
a
little
bit
different
than
than
what
I
think
people
really
take.
You
know
take
it
at
face
value
which
is
you
know.
E
This
proposal
is
more
about
getting
into
a
partnership
with
num
focus
who's,
a
much
larger
organization
who
spends
20
plus
million
dollars
a
year
from
their
private
donations
to
actually
fund
these
these
programs,
and
so
when
I
see
a
proposal
like
that,
there's
you
know
objectively
or
subjectively,
like
nobody
in
this
community
is
not
going
to
be
in
alignment
with
it,
but
the
impact
and
the
intention
behind
that
proposal
is
something
that
I
think
is
not
in
alignment,
and
so
it
just
you
know,
there's
so
many
elements
to
the
subjective.
E
Nature
of
you
know
sentiment
that
I
don't
think
gives
us
concrete
outcomes
to
what
we're
trying
to
evaluate.
A
But
that
is
something
that
would
become
your
opinion
would
be
something
that
would
be
well
exposed
in
a
sentiment
analysis,
for
example,
like
many
opinions
like
yours
and
having
this
that's
exactly
what
a
sentiment
analysis
would
do
it's
like,
even
if
something's
true.
E
C
I
was
thinking
what
nate
said.
Maybe
you
can
do
like
a
sensitization
workshop,
so
you
can
get
your
your
views
out
there
because
it's
logical
and
I
think
it
may
resonate
with
some.
Maybe
they
may
not
see
it
now,
but
after
hearing
the
pros
and
cons,
maybe
that'll-
you
know
change
their
opinion
on
on
this
issue,
because
there's
there's
a
lot
of
substance
to
it.
H
Yeah,
just
one
thing:
if
the,
if
you
look
at
the
way,
we're
quantifying
value
with
trace,
perhaps
something
of
the
sort
can
be
a
value
over
here
where
you
can
have
like
a
large
pool
of
people
assigning
assigning
value
on
a
scale
or
to
this,
so
that
kind
of
reflects
your
opinion
slightly
better.
It's
not
yes
or
no,
it's
more
like
it's
log
it.
It
can
be
a
logarithmic
zero.
It
can
be.
H
You
know
the
scale
you're
using
one
place
it
can
be,
but
essentially
like
it.
It
enhances
your
ability
to
disagree,
or
so
maybe
we
could
do.
We
could
have
some
form
of
similar
proposal,
quantification
or
proposal
value
alignment,
estimation
practices,
maybe
that
that
could
be
possible
like
yes,
if
there's
enough
people
interested
in
doing
that,
and
we
can
somehow
find
people
that
that
are
vouchably
more
value
aligned
than
people
that
just
joined
the
community.
H
A
Cool,
thank
you.
Everyone
we're
on
the
top
of
the
hour.
I
appreciate
you
all
coming
hi
durga
does
nice
to
see
you
here
and
I'll
I'll
leave
comments
in
the
chat
about
the
first
part
of
the
call
and
what
everyone
suggested
and
see
how
we
can
carry
on
with
that
and,
and
this
feel
free
to
jump
in
this
board.
We've
been
working
async
here
mostly,
but
will
continue
to
bring
up
to
this
calls.
Thank
you
all.