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A
Since,
since
we
had
that
call
with
angela
about
how
is-
is
very
delicate,
this
the
moment
where
we
have
a
token
and
how
we
can
balance
out
governance
and
what
is
best
for
for
for
the
community
for
the
tc
and
and
the
profits
that
can
come
from
the
token,
like
speculation,
conversations
and
all
that
stuff
and
one
of
the
principles
from
austrian,
that
is
the
one
that
I
I
think
the
most
is
how
to
create
a
balance
between
provision.
A
Every
time
I
think
about
this,
I
I
feel
like
the
answer
is
not
super
clear
and
even
being
in
a
token
engineering
community,
where,
like
we're
talking
about
economy
all
the
time-
and
there
are
so
many-
I
mean
even
designing
our
own
economy-
we've
been
looking
so
much
into
this,
but
it
still
feels
like
a
hard
question
of
how
to
keep
this
balance,
especially
in
a
large
community
and
having
to
balance
so
many
types
of
resources.
A
So
juan
wanted
to
share
a
fable
with
us
and
to
ask
the
intro
question.
B
Yeah
thanks
levi
hello,
everyone.
Well,
this
is
a
fable
from
asop,
so
it's
like
an
ancient
greek
fable
and
I
have
shared
it
before.
But
it's
great
to
to
to
remember
this
kind
of
of
of
reflections
like
more
frequently
so
it
says
a
was
on
was
once
strutting
up
and
down
the
farm
farmyard
among
the
hands
when
suddenly
he
spied
something
shining
amidst
the
straw
ho
ho
quote
quote
he
that's
for
me
and
soon
rooted
out
from
beneath
the
straw.
B
B
B
For
our
token,
because
there's
going
to
be
like
a
value
that
is
reflected
in
the
price,
but
it
there's
also
a
personal
value
that
each
one
of
us
gives
to
the
token
so
yeah.
What
what
is
the
value
for
for
the
token
for
you
like?
Does
it
mean?
What
does
it
mean
for
you
so
that
that's
the
question
like
and-
and
we
have
seen
so
like
several
cases
like
people,
trading,
10,
000,
bitcoin
for
a
pizza
and
and
yeah?
B
What's
the
value
that
you
that
you
are
going
to
give
to
this,
and
because
it's
it's
going
to
enter
into
a
market
and
maybe
it
it
will
be
exchanged,
so
you
have
to
be
mindful
of
what
are
you
going
to
exchange
for?
For
this
token,
and
not
change
like
gold
for
corn
or
yeah?
It's
it's
just
to
make
a
reflection.
B
And
if,
if
I
stay,
if
I
initialize
like
the
the
value
of
of
the
dc
for
me,
it's
an
opportunity,
and
I
feel
that
the
there's
no
money
that
can
buy
the
opportunity
that
I'm
at
right
now
and
it's
the
opportunity
to
to
do
something
impactful
for
not
only
for
me,
but
for
what
I
think
to
to
be
the
the
the
best
ways
of
building
a
better
future.
So
yeah.
A
A
I
don't
know
it's
the
most
concrete.
I
think
I
ever
understood
production
of
value
because
we
started
like
when
things
start
from
from
very
little
and
then
they
grow
into
something
so
huge
that
it's
not
immediately
attached
to
financial
to
a
financial
financial
power,
but
then
that
turns
into
become
like
financially
powerful.
A
C
C
I
think
that's
like
the
most
value
that
we
can
get
out
of
like
like
it's
priceless
and
the
people
and
the
motivation
and
the
new
people
that
are
attracted
and
the
effort
that
we're
all
making
yeah.
That's
sorry,
that's
how
I
feel
passed
to
eduardo.
D
Thank
you.
I,
like
the
first
question
of
how
to
create
balance
in
between
probation
appropriation
of
resources.
I
will
develop
that
later,
but
on
the
question
of
value,
I
think,
on
the
past
days
I
mean
I,
I
joined
the
space
because
I
didn't
understand
bending
curve
and
I
was
like
what
is
this.
I
just
want
to
know.
D
What
is
this?
I
just
don't
get
it
same.
Explanation
was
not
very
clear
for
me,
so
I
needed
to
dig
in
a
little
bit
more
so
for
me,
the
value
of
the
token
and
the
value
of
the
community
is
the
knowledge
that
here
here
exists
and
at
some
level
a
few
since
a
few
weeks
ago,
I
see
validation
of
this
thought
by
how
many
people
who
feel
the
survey
when
they
enter
the
server
they
just
answer.
We
just
want
to
learn,
and
there
is
this.
D
I
had
a
few
calls
past
week
when
people
were
like
oh
yeah.
I
just
I
just
want
to
learn,
and
I
feel
this
is
such
an
undervalued,
underst,
the
underestimated
aspect
of
a
token,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
not
even
benefits
the
token
but
benefits
the
community.
Even
if
it's
ecosystem
benefits,
like
you
know
so
for
me,
passing
on
the
knowledge
of
the
the
token
ethic,
the
token
cultural
build
and
all
this
stuff,
I
think
the
value
for
me
is
there.
D
The
price
can
go
up,
the
price
can
go
down,
but
you
can
apply
this
knowledge
anywhere
and
everything
whether
the
value,
whether
the
talking
of
the
value,
goes
to
zero.
The
knowledge
that
you
got
out
of
participation
of
the
community,
you
can
still
apply
in
real
life.
You
can
still
apply
it
on
your
family,
your
governance,
your
you
know
wherever
you
go
for
me,
the
value
is
the
knowledge
and
I
will
pass
it
on
to
nate.
E
Thanks
edward
yeah,
I
kind
of
feel
the
same
in
a
lot
of
ways
with
eduardo
and
tan.
For
me,
token
itself
is
the
value
is
derived
from
utility
and
the
utility
of
that
token
is
can
be
any
number
of
things,
but
I
think
that's
the
beauty
of
it
is
that
you
know
you
can
look
at
something
like
bitcoin
and
say:
okay,
it's
a
store
of
value,
but
if
a
community
decides
that
it
wants
to
just
use
it
as
access
rights
to
a
discord
channel.
E
Good
and
utilizing
that
in
that
way
is,
is
pretty
amazing
and
I
think
that
utility
is
highly
undervalued,
and
so
I
think
that's
it's
just
kind
of
one
of
those
things
where
I
just
look
at
it
as
a
tool
and
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
the
community
that
decides
its
value
and
and
how
we
utilize
that
tool
for
our
own
men's,
so
yeah
I'll
pass
it
to
nick.
F
I
think
it's
proof
that
people
can
work
on
things
together
on
things
that
align
with
their
values
and
that
be
the
focus
versus
monetary
reward.
F
It's
it's
like
a
ticket
towards
a
future
where
people
are
working
together
for
the
benefit
of
all
versus,
like
the
benefit
of
only
a
few,
thus
maybe
creating
the
possibility
of
like
moving
away
from
money
and
just
focusing
on
mission
alignment
for
work,
and
it's
representative
as
well
possibility
of
individuals
flourishing
and
okay.
It's
a
representative
of
representative
that
individuals
can
flourish
and
work
together
as
like
a
collective
without
losing
their
individualities.
G
H
I
Sorry,
my
discord
is
being
really
slow.
Today
I
have
a
more
what's
the
word.
I
don't
know
like
sad
sad's,
not
the
word
I'm
looking
for,
but
I
have
a
set
of
work.
I
You
still
waited
for
me,
I'm
sorry,
my
discord,
just
shut
down
and
then
popped
up.
I'm
really
sorry
about
that,
but
yeah
it.
I.
I
really
sadly
feel
that
token's
value
is
based
on
speculative
value,
which
is
like
perception
perceived
future
value,
the
like
the
difference
between
the
current
value
or
like
what
how
people
think
it
is,
what
it's
worth
now
and
what
its
utility
is
now
is
almost
irrelevant.
I
Unfortunately,
and
and
it's
speculative
value,
it's
its
value
in
the
future
is
what
people
are
gambling
on
now,
it's
like
the
market
is
a
prediction
market
for
its
future
value.
So
really
the
the
value
of
the
token
is
like
well.
Will
people
in
the
future
want
to
join
this
community?
Will
people
in
the
future
use
this
token
to
guide
the
the
advancement
of
token
engineering?
I
Will
people
in
the
future
do
those
things,
so
I
feel
like
that's
in
general,
the
like
primary,
like,
let's
say,
80
percent
of
the
value
is
derived
from
that
perception
or
that
belief
and
then
20
percent
might
be
provide
actually
be
derived
from,
like
not
actual
utility
like.
I
can
use
it
to
get
into
this
discord.
I
better
buy
some.
I
I
I
can
use
it
to
pass
a
proposal
that
I
want
about
bonding
curves.
J
This
is
like
interesting
from
my
from
my
point
of
view
because,
as
many
of
you
know,
I
come
from
a
a
professional
background
where
there's
a
lot
of
struggle
and
exploitation,
which
is
like
creative
people,
film
and
music
freelancing
like
all
of
this,
and
I
feel
that
people
sometimes
are
like
so
used
to
you
know
like
lose
faith
in
in
in
what
they
do
and
even
though
they
find
value
in
what
they
do,
they
are
like
very
they.
J
They
already
weren't
like
true,
like
acceptance
right
like
yeah.
Well,
what
I
do
is
not
that
important,
but
I
love
it,
and
it's
really
like
the
value
in
the
at
the
end
of
the
day
is
the
value
that
I'm
looking
for.
J
So
what
I,
what
I
love
about,
like
the
token
economies,
is
that
like,
as
as
long
as
you
see
like
the
the
value
in
what
you're
doing
you
can
yeah
like
you,
you
can
find
other
people
that
participate
in
this,
and
it
doesn't
really
matter
like
if
you
don't
know
them
as
long
as
you
believe
in
the
same,
and
I
feel
that
there's
a
big
big,
huge
difference
between
like
like
before
and
after
bitcoin,
and
like
everything
like
that
that
started
with
all
of
this.
J
I
I
I
love
that
people
now
have
a
tool
to
decide
to
participate
in
regardless
of
of
this
value
like
I,
I
love
that
it
can
now
translate
to
that
and
that
I
I
like,
like
some
months
ago
in
one
hive
like
connie,
was
doing
like
pretty
bad,
and
I
remember
coming
from
this
comment
like
I
don't
care
like,
I
don't
care
if
it's
like
100
or
like
1500,
I
believe
in
the
community
and
I
believe
in
what
we're
building
that's.
J
What
gives
me
back
like
no
other,
like
form
of
value,
and
I
thought
it
was
like
a
very
maybe
like
a
complex
idea,
but
it's
definitely
going
to
bring
new
ways
of
thinking
and
feeling
towards
what
we
love
I'll
pass
it
to
chem.
K
Hi
I
just
arrived,
but
I
think
you
are
talking
about
the
value
of
a
token
economy.
K
Of
of
this
one
of
the
tc
no
well,
I
I
agree
with
the
idea
of
that
is
related
to
a
perspective
to
all
what
all
community
is
agreed
with
and.
K
It
is
related
to
the
strength
of
the
community
towards
this
use
of
this
token
economies.
I
think
that's
my
perspective
of
this.
L
I
might
be
last
I
liked
a
lot
of
what
libby
and
griff
said,
and
I
think
maybe
part
of
the
conversation
got
sidetracked
by
the
value
of
tec
as
an
organization.
L
But
if
we're
looking
at
the
token,
I
think
kind
of
griff
hit
it
on.
The
point
is
like
the
the
real
value
right,
so
we're
talking
value
in
dollars
or
x,
die
whatever
is
unfortunately,
derived
from
the
speculative
value.
So
you
know
when
you're
buying
a
token
you're
looking
at
like
what
value
are
they
going
to
generate
so
the
products
the
actual
utility
of
it,
and
also
the
integrity
of
the
organization?
You're?
Probably
not
gonna
like?
Maybe
they
build
really
really
cool
stuff
like
pancake?
L
Swap
everybody
uses
it,
but
like
nobody
really
trusted
them,
you
know
so,
like
that's
like
a
an
inhibitor
there
of
like
the
value
like
if
people
don't
trust
your
organization,
they're
less
likely
to
buy
your
token,
and
then
part
of
that
is
like
how
do
we
value
the
products
that
are
created
by
working
groups
or
entities
that
are
looking
to
form
their
own
dowels?
L
So
gravity
wants
to
become
their
own
dow,
but
do
we
derive
value
from
them
within
the
context
of
the
tec
token?
How
does
that
work
and
if
comms
wants
to
you,
know
make
their
own
working
group
or
separate
dow
like?
Are
they
still
benefiting
from
the
value
that's
created
from
the
tec
token,
and
how
do
these
all
play
together?
If
these
separate
entities
want
to
become
separate,
you
know
as
part
of
the
larger
structure
as
part
of
the
larger
token
economy.
A
Thanks
hi
musashi
we're
just
ending
this
round
of
an
intro
question.
If
you
want
to
share
a
minute
of
what
is
the
value
that
the
tc
token
has,
in
your
view,.
M
I'm
sorry
I
came
so
late.
I
I
think
I'm
gonna
be
speaking
out
of
context
at
this
point.
You're
welcome
to
just
move
on.
A
So
cool,
thank
you,
everyone
that
was
really
insightful
and
I
think
we'll
have
a
few
more
sessions
to
explore
like
this
economy
aspect
of
the
second
principle
of
how
how
to
create
this
balance
between
provision
and
appropriation.
I
think
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
long
time,
but
now
we're
starting
to
get
more
context
to
understand
what
are
the
resources
that
we
have
and
how
they
are
being
provided
in
and
withdrawn
from
our
system.
L
A
What
is
our
governance
checklist?
What
is
missing
for
us
to
like
wrap
up
the
the
governance
structure
and
and
also
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
snapshot
params,
that
was
in
the
forum
and
that
a
few
people
voted.
Thank
you
for
all
of
you
that
did
that
and
discuss
if
we
need
other
params
for
other
other
things
like
token
log,
so.
A
I
think
I'll
start
by
sharing
this
a
little
bit.
I
worked.
I
worked
on
this
for
a
few
hours
today
and
then
it
started
to
get
a
little
bit
fuzzy
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
becoming
too
complicated
or
it
needs
to
be
complicated,
because
it's
what
it
is
and
then,
when
we
have
the
the
graphics
that
will
be
like
easy
to,
like
you
read
something,
then
you
can
see
it
and
then
it
makes
sense.
A
So
the
peer-to-peer
advice
process,
I
think
it's
solved
and
then
the
medium
like
asking
a
working
group
also
solved.
But
then
the
large
impact
community
advice
it's
a
bit
clustered
because
there
is
so
much
in
here.
So
so
I
want
to
ask
feedback
for
the
working
group
about
the
large
impact
feedback
process.
So
we
have.
A
Four
points
that
can
derive
from
using
the
community
advice,
so
in
the
first
place
you
would
use
that
because
it's
a
decision
that
will
affect
a
large
number
of
the
community
that
you
can't
even
point
them
one
by
one.
So
you
post
in
the
forum
and
you
promote
this
on
twitter
or
in
our
community.
You
promote
it
everywhere,
because
you
want
people
to
pay
attention
in
it
and
you
need
the
most
advice
you
can
get.
A
So
there
are
a
few
outcomes
of
this
one
can
be.
You
got
what
you
needed
and
you
can
move
forward.
There
was
no
blockers,
you
got
enough
feedback
to
solve
all
your
questions
and
it
seems
like
you
can
go
in
a
smooth,
fast
path
and
and
that's
what
you
do
and
then
it
ends,
but
then
for
financial
proposals.
A
That
is
the
confusing
point
that
for
financial
proposals
you
post
first
on
advice
process.
Then
you
receive
all
the
feedback,
and
then
you
integrate
that
feedback
and
you
post
a
clean
draft
on
conviction,
voting
in
the
forum
and
then
that
clean
draft
goes
to
conviction.
Voting
for
voting
is
anything
that
I'm
saying
making
sense.
A
Yeah
one
two
three
is
like
you,
you,
you
have
an
idea
for
you
want
a
grant
and
then
I'm
seeing
in
multiple
dows.
They
do
that
that
they
have
multiple
steps
and
I
feel,
like
people
are
getting
used
to
that.
So
it's
not
like
crazy.
We
just
need
to
lay
out
the
steps
in
a
way
that
is
very
clear
to
understand
clear,
to
understand
their
purpose.
A
So
let's
say
for
conviction
voting.
Why?
Having
three
or
four
steps
like
first,
you
have
an
idea.
You
want
funds
from
the
community,
you
post
that
idea
on
advice
process
and
then
you
will
have
some
feedback.
If
that
is
something
that
the
community
wants
to
fund.
Is
that
relevant
for
token
engineering.
A
E
C
A
A
E
Is
there
any
downside
to
having
some
type
of
gatekeeping
system
for,
like
specific
people
can
post
to
the
conviction
voting
as
long
as
they
follow
through
with
this
proposal
process?
So
I
get
feedback.
I
submit
a
formal
proposal
to
a
group
of
soft
gov
stewards
and
then
they
review
it
for
legitimacy
and
then
throw
it
up
on
the
conviction.
Voting
like
that's
how
they
work
say
again.
Sorry.
A
I
Yeah,
basically
celeste
just
goes
the
other
direction
right.
Anyone
can
propose,
but
anyone
can
also
like
say:
that's
not
good
after
the
fact.
As
long
as
as
long
as
the
voting
is
dispersed
enough
through
there's
enough
people
voting,
then
it
shouldn't
be
a
problem
like
thing
and
the
conviction
grows
slow
enough.
It
won't
be
an
issue.
A
C
C
M
C
O
I
Well,
I
I
think
it's
so
just
to
kind
of
jive
off
what
zep
said
they
they're
they're,
adding
a
feature.
That's
pretty
cool
too.
That
will
actually
show
the
comments
of
the
forum
post
on
the
vote
itself.
So
when
you
link
the
forum
post,
you
scroll
down
and
you'll
see
all
the
comments
of
that
forum
post
and
the
forum
post
itself
in
the
in
the
voting
screen,
which
is
pretty
cool
the
other.
The
thing
that
I
would
say
is
like
I
feel
like
we
don't
want
to.
We
want
to.
I
We
don't
want
to
over
like
process
size
or
whatever,
like
everything,
and
it's
probably
just
better
to
have
this.
As
like
advice,
you
know
hey.
If
your
proposal
gets
messy
like
yeah,
it's
gonna
look
like
and
no
one
will
understand
what
you're
doing,
if
you're,
proposing
a
conviction.
Voting
like
don't
do
that
if
you
want
it
to
pass,
you
know,
and
it's
just
people
only
have
so
much
attention
to
read
through
your
garbage
so
like
just
post
a
clean
one
if
it
gets
messy
it'll
pass
better.
I
That
way,
you
know
just
kind
of
like
align
it
with
their
incentives
and
I
don't
think
it
has
to
be
these
require,
I
think,
what's
really
hard
is
making
processes
and
as
requirements
that
we
can't
really
enforce.
You
know
it's
like.
We
got
the
tools
that
we
got
anyone
can
they
don't
even
have
to
post
a
form
proposal.
They
can
put
a
link
to
a
website
and
just
be
like
yo,
I'm
asking
for
money.
I
We
can't
really
stop
them
from
doing
that
unless
we
put
in
celeste
somewhere
that
that's
not
allowed
or
you
know,
has
to
have
a
foreign
post,
it
has
to
follow
this
process
in
celeste.
Then
I
guess
we
could
stop
them,
but
it's
like
if
we
keep
it
chill
and
just
use
and
say
these
are
our
cultural
best
practices
and
you
know,
and
then,
as
the
core
community
we
vote
along
those
cultural
best
practices,
then
it'll
enforce
itself.
A
Yeah
yeah:
the
idea
is
to
put
this
on
on
the
covenant,
so
it
would
be
on
celeste,
but
I
agree
that
I
also
don't
like
having
many
processes.
It
just
feels
like
like
that.
Is
it
everything
gonna
be
like
a
complete
mess
and
yeah,
but
I
I
like
that
of
having
like
best
practices,
I
think
in
the
end
that
becomes
kind
of
the
norm.
People
get
used
to
it.
A
L
But
yeah
you
could
just
have
like
you
know,
advice,
process,
conviction,
voting,
advice,
process,
down,
voting,
advice,
process,
blah
blah,
and
then
you
can
remove
advice
process
when
it's
done.
You
can
add
something
like
vote
now.
I
don't
know
whatever,
and
I
think
I
think
we
do
it
on
the
giveth
forum
like
when
something
passes.
We
add
a
pass
label
to
it
and
then
it's
it's
clearly
there
without
having
to
actually
move
it
around
on
the
forum.
I
A
Yeah,
that's
actually
in
the
agenda
of
snapshot,
params
and
token
log
parents,
so
we've
been
doing
token
log,
params
kind
of
on
the
like
a
very
informal
process,
and
last
time
we
had
some
problems
with
it
because
I
picked
the
number
out
of
the
air
and
then
that
number
later
was
like.
Oh
no,
that
was
a
very
dumb
number.
So
we
should
have
like
a
thought
out
process
before
to.
A
To
have
a
standard
of
how
all
the
token
log
votes
are
gonna
happen,
so
we
don't
need
to
think
about
this
every
time
I
don't
know
if
there
will
be
so
many
other
times,
but
some
of
the
questions
are
like
how
long
does
each
phase
last.
I
The
reason
we
had
the
committee
was
because
there
is
no
good
way
to
avoid
like
proposals,
splitting
votes
or
like
if
there's
a
proposal
like
let's
say
that
there's
four
proposals
that
have
really
great
parameters,
but
the
investing
is
a
little
bit
different
on
each
four.
It's
just
a
little
different,
you
know,
but
then
they
don't
make
it
into
the
top.
I
You
know
five
or
six
params
because
they
split
the
votes,
but
if
you
added
them
as
one
then
that
they
would
be
the
best
proposal,
they'd
be
the
proposal
that
everyone
voted
for
so
like
and
then
we're
using
quadratic
voting,
and
so
things
get
a
little
complicated
there
and
so
having
a
human
eye
on
the
runoff
selection.
I
think,
is
valuable.
I
I
I
I
And
yeah,
and
so
there's
data
there
that's
worth
looking
at,
but
the
big
thing
that
I'm
curious
of
is
like
everything's
working
now
we
can
launch
the
pram
parties
we
could
do.
We
could
set
a
date
for
when
we
vote
and
then
extend
it.
We
can
set
a
longer
date.
I
You
know,
when
do
we
want
to
end
this
thing?
How
do
we
decide
how
to
end?
Like
the
start,
the
runoff
process,
like
I
feel
like
having
the
committee
to
pick
the
things
in
the
runoff
like
we
did
last
time.
I
don't
feel
like
that
was
challenged
by
the
community
or
anyone
felt
so
off
by
it,
and
I
think
we
did
a
good
job.
I
The
the
big
thing
is
like
the
timing,
we're
at
the
end
of
the
last
one
we're
all
like
man.
I
wish
we
had
more
time.
You
know,
and
so
playing
with
that
was
was
a
lesson
learned
and
but
then,
at
the
same
time,
we
need
to
launch
this
so
like
come.
How
do
we?
E
I
feel
like
there's
a
big
like
the
one
big
difference
between
the
the
hatch
dial
parameters,
and
these
are
that
these
parameters
have
a
larger
variability
and
differences
just
because
you're
dealing
with
so
many
different
parameters
than
we
were
before
and
so
like
identifying
certain
parameters
that
are
clearly
that
clearly
need
to
be
represented,
maybe
even
like
transferability
or
like
maybe
having
one
of
those
proposals
offered
or
I
you
know
like.
There
are
certain
aspects
of
some
of
these
parameters
that
are
undesirable
for
the
community.
E
We
should
probably
highlight,
but
I
don't
know
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out.
There.
A
I
It's
all
debates
the
whole
thing
people
can
come
and
and
of
course,
be
working
on
their
parameters
while
they're
listening
to
the
debate,
but,
like
you
know,
someone
is
presenting
their
prams
and
then
there's
time
for
everyone
to
debate
them
and
then
yeah
that's
sort
of
my
plan.
If
we
wanted
to,
we
could
close
every
issue
in
the
repo
and
then
that
would
delete
any
votes
that
were
made
during
that
first
week,
doc
and
and
avoid
any
of
those
first
week
prams
from
doing
it,
and
we
could
do
that.
L
C
I
I
mean:
can
we
just
launch
this
thing
tomorrow?
Let's
do
pram
parties
today
and
then
pick
I
mean
that's.
I
I'm
I'm
kind
of
in
a
rush,
but
that
doesn't
that's
that's,
but
I
feel
like
when
we,
when
we
get
into
it,
we're
just
gonna,
make
better
and
better
proposals
right.
So
the
longer
we
take
the
better
we
end
up
with
params.
So
it's
like
the
this,
like
it's
a
challenge.
C
I
Yeah
and
I
think
that's
basic.
I
Yeah
I
mean
we're
starting
the
parent
parties.
Now
we
could.
Basically
we
could
call
it
on
the
ninth.
Oh,
I
put
the
16th
in
the
dock,
but
we
could
call
it
on
the
ninth
and
that
could
be
like
during
this
call.
We
say:
hey
we're
going
to
you
know
on.
The
ninth
is
the
last
or
you
know,
last
day
to
vote
and
and
really
the
seventh
is
probably
the
last
day
to
propose.
But
then
maybe
we
extend
more
time
yeah.
I.
C
Feel
like
it's
really
contingent
about
how
many
people
we
get
in,
who
we
get
in
proposing
and
how
many
people
we
get
into
proposing
right
like?
Are
we
getting
the
community
members
to
make
proposals?
Are
we
getting
token
engineers
to
make
proposals?
Are
they
all
our
own
proposals
that
we're
making?
So
I
think,
if
we're
getting
the
the
outcomes
that
we
desire,
that
can
be
quite
reasonable.
C
L
I
mean
up
until
now:
it's
been
pretty
low
participation,
so
this
week
I
think
we
can
kick
it
off
like
the
people
who
built
the
thing
shouldn't
be
the
only
ones
in
the
party.
That's
kind
of
that's
a
bit
weird,
so
I
think
now
that
we've
got
all
the
kinks
worked
out.
We
can
really
push
to
get
just
like
literally
anybody
like
in
there
just
like
looking
at
it
like
they
don't
have
to
be
in
the
tc.
Just
like
one
hive,
give
it
bright
id
dap
node,
like
whoever
you
know,
get
them
in
common
stack.
A
Yeah,
I
think,
from
from
what,
from
the
past
experiences,
we
always
underestimate
the
time
that
is
needed
for
things.
I
think
this
is
like
the
big
big
time
of
the
tc.
You
know
like
it's
our
best
product,
the
best
narrative,
the
best
everything
it's
like
the
big
moment
where
it's
gonna
launch.
We
already
have
the
money
like
the
people
are
here.
Everybody's
excited.
I
think
we
need
to
like
yeah,
I
don't
know,
really
grab
all
of
those
resources
of
like
the
excitement,
resources
we
have
and
and
use
it
and
maybe
do
like
a
big
promotion.
A
A
So
one
param
party
should
be
after
the
graviton
training
that
has
so
many
people
in
the
server
already
and
another
one
could
be
after
the
labs
that
it's
also
when,
like
an
interesting
crowd,
comes
and
it's
not
people
that
are
in
all
the
calls,
often
and
then
ask
like
our
partners
to
how
promoting
this
and
and
really
like,
put
it
out
as
a
big
opportunity
to
play
with
token
engineering,
and
then
I
think,
like.
Maybe
we
can
do
all
of
this
in
this
week.
I
Okay,
I
think
that
sounds
good.
Let's
not
promote
it
as
a
test
week,
though,
when
we
promote
it
with
comms,
let's
just
promote
it
as
like
the
real
deal,
and
maybe
we
don't
say
the
like
the
end
date
yet,
but
have
a
soft
plan
on
the
end
date
being
the
16th,
and
maybe
we
announced
that
after
the
practice
week,
we
confirm
when
the
end
date
will
be.
I
will
say
that
right
now,
the
proposals,
I
think
it's
really
easy
to
stick
with
this
plan,
because
the
proposals
right
now
are
going
to
a
test
repo.
I
The
repo
says
test.
You
know
when
you
make
a
proposal
so
and
we
have
an
issue
to
move
that
to
a
real
repo.
We
can
just
delay
that
issue
until
until
next
week,
next
tuesday,
we
say
and
then
all
the
parent
parties
up
until
this
this
call
we
I
like
using
the
soft
call
as
the
like.
You
know
the
anchor
point,
the
selling
point
for
when
things
happen.
I
hope
that's
okay,
olivia,
but
it's
it
feels
like
our
governance
call.
I
So
if
we
say
that,
like
we
make
the
repo
change
on
tuesday
and
then
all
those
and
then
we'll
also
change
the
token
log
and
all
these
things,
they'll
just
be
they'll
all
change,
the
token
log
address
will
even
change
the
website
for
voting
would
change,
but
then
yeah
and
then
we
just
plan
on
the
16th
being
the
deadline,
and
we
can
choose
to
extend
it
on
the
11th
and
we
could
just
be
transparent
about
that.
Based
off
of
how
things
are
going.
A
Yeah
that
sounds
good
and
we
didn't
cover
like
as
close
as
what
we
had
to
in
this
call,
but
I
just
want
to
promote
this
again
for
everyone
to
take
a
look.
A
We
have
seven
votes,
I
think
so
far,
eight
cool
and
just
to
have
an
idea
of
how
are
we
choosing
the
params
for
for
snapshot,
and
this
is
just
a
signal
and
then
we're
gonna,
probably
post
on
snapchat,
to
decide
the
snapshot
ramps
but
yeah.
If
anyone
has
comments
on
how
it
should
be
different
than
what
is
proposed
here,
then
please
share
it
and
we
can
decide
this
before
launching
the
token
log
voting
experience
show
because
we
need
to
have
this
communicated
there.
A
Okay,
so
thank
you.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
coming.
It
was
a
great
discussion
and
I'll
be
reaching
out
to
some
people
this
week
to
see
if
we
can
go
through
this
checklist.