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A
And
basically,
it's
like
get
to
sing
with
you
see
how
everything's
going.
I
have
some
questions
regarding
yeah
playlist
decision
trick
like
just
get
some
updates
everything's
going
well,
I
was
also
thinking.
Maybe
we
can
just
crack
a
little
bit
on
a
template
on
the
agenda
and
yeah.
That's
it
opacity.
B
Next
again
similar,
I
want
to
just
try
to
make
sure
that
I'm
aware
of
everything
that's
going
on
in
the
group
and
I
kind
of
want
to
get
just
accumulate
information
for
the
sampo
analyst
group
that
we're
starting
to
meet
tomorrow.
So
yeah,
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
and
seeing
if
I
can't
contribute
something
and
means
of
trying
to
continue
to
like
intelligently
account
for
everything
and
pass
it
to
bear.
C
Thanks,
fair
yeah,
my
intentions
are
to
go
over
this
agenda
and
see
where
I
can
support
and
also
I
want
to
get
feedback
on
the
audit
and
what's
the
next
step
so
yeah,
that's
those
are
main
tensions.
A
Thank
you.
Oh
let
me.
Oh
no
video
show
my
screen
this
one.
Okay,
yeah,
the
the
yeah
I
just
like
I
was
council
call,
and
I
just
figured
that
we
don't
have
a
council
playlist.
I
believe
we're
putting
it
into
the
stores.
Maybe
that's
cool,
but
yeah
just
bring
the
topic
here.
Do
you
guys
think
it's
worth
it
having
a
consul,
playlist
or
or
not
only
bear.
D
C
I
remember
creating
a
different
playlist
for
these
two
words,
but
I
can't
remember
if
it's
for
the
counselor,
if
it's
mainly
for
the
sprint
planning
and
retro
but
yeah,
don't
don't
have
this
yet.
B
C
C
I
have
an
opinion.
I
think
we
can
have
a
separate
playlist
for
the
stewards
working
group,
because
I
think
those
calls
are
mainly
for
coordination
and
then
for
topics
that
we
want
more
insights
from
the
stewards,
more
discussion
it
can
go.
Those
are
what
the
council
calls
are
for.
So
you
think
the
council,
the
spirits
council,
can
have
a
separate,
separate
playlist,
that's
my
opinion,
because
they
are
different
yeah.
C
Those
two
calls
are:
they
have
different
purposes.
A
Okay,
do
you
want
to
take
your
own
any
of
anyone,
maybe
or
where
or
okay.
A
A
C
Sorry,
what
was
the
question
because
wait?
Let
me
just
go
back
to
the
youtube
playlist:
oh
okay,
yeah!
So
can
you
drop
the?
I
think
I
saw
it
on
twitter
that
you
sent
the
link
to
odyssey.
My
question
is:
does
it
do
we
need
to
manually
update
audio.
A
Or
is
I
actually
put
odyssey
here
just
to
say,
like
we
did
a
great
job
having
this
odyssey
because
bangladesh
got
their
youtube
channel
shut
down?
And
even,
if
that
happens,
to
the
tc,
we
have
all
the
content
saved
in
odc.
So.
A
C
C
Let
me
show
finish
here
what
obviously
looks
like
for,
because
I
checked
the
link
earlier
from
twitter.
A
C
That
it
has
all
the
info
the
content
as
well
for
youtube,
but
I
don't
I'm
not
familiar
with
this
yeah.
A
C
So
whatever
we
upload
on
each
trip
automatically
gets
uploaded
to
odyssey,
there's
no
manual
work
that
needs
to
know.
Okay,
it's.
A
I
mean
yeah,
we
could
even
change
the
logo
to
another
one,
but
the
thing
is
like
it's
going
to
be
like
a
huge
amount
of
time.
I
I
feel
like.
Meanwhile,
I
mean
I
don't
know.
What's
your
opinion
on
that,
but
I
feel
like
this
is
a
lot
of
work
to
do
because.
A
The
other
thing
is
like
yeah
like
right.
Now
we
have
our
youtube
channel,
so
we
don't
need.
C
I
think,
as
long
as
we
have
the
playlist
on
youtube,
I
think
we
can,
and
as
long
as
this
con,
our
videos
have
like
back
backup
on
this
platform.
I
think
that's
fine
and
then
maybe
we
can
just
organize
this
if
if
we
lose
the
youtube
channel,
so
yes,
I
think
what's
important
is
other
videos
are
back
up
on
this
platform.
A
There
is
another
thing
like
we
have
many
videos
that
are
in:
they
are
not
like
public,
they
are,
they
are
high,
they
are
not
private,
but
they
are
not
not
probably
neither
so
those
videos
are
not
coming
through
odyssey
like,
for
example,
like
the
hatch
video
we
use
in
the
in
the
hatch,
it's
high,
it's
not
in
youtube,
and
then
grief
also
makes
some
videos
that
are
on
high
and
then
the
last
video
I
can
remember.
It's
also
like
I
made
this
analysis
for
the
video
in
the
in
the
audit
like.
C
A
C
If,
even
if
youtube
shuts
down
or
yeah.
D
C
Okay,
so
the
quest
my
second
question
for
those
hidden
videos-
or,
I
think
that's-
I
forgot
the
term
yeah,
but
I.
C
A
C
C
C
A
I
mean
most
of
them
is
just
because
you
know
we
have
an
interface
like
you
know
the
hatch
or
not
the
audit
or
whatever,
and
then
yeah.
The
reason
was
so
people
click
the
link
and
yeah.
But
it's,
I
think,
like
the
reasoning
behind
it's
not
very
smart.
Actually,
in
my.
B
C
A
A
Yeah
the
thing
is
like
we
link
our
youtube
channel
with
odyssey
is
the
library
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
the
library
project,
sure
and
yeah
like
they
are
every
time
we
upload
a
video
on
youtube
they're,
getting
that
video
and
uploading
it
here
in
this
platform.
A
So
even
if
youtube
shut
us
down
we're
still
safe,
but
the
thing
is
like
on
youtube.
We
also
have
some
videos
that
are
not
public,
so
they
are
high.
C
I
think
gene
is
asking
if
we
have
other
repositories
where
we
store
this.
E
C
A
Like
at
some
point,
we
were
thinking
buying
memory
in
google
memory,
but
we
felt,
like
you
know,
obviously
was
better
like
it's
very
sure.
It's
also
open
source.
Sure
so
I
mean
yeah
I
mean
we
can
also,
I
feel
like.
B
A
Okay,
yeah.
I
think
I
think
we
should
keep
moving
yeah
decision
tracking.
Are
you
updating
this
ivy.
C
Last
week
I
wasn't
able
to
update
this.
I
didn't
I
had
limited
internet,
but
this
week
I'll
check
it.
I
think
I
checked
it
earlier
last
week
or
the
week
before
that,
okay,
but
yeah.
A
B
A
Wanted
to
check
like
on
your
radar.
So
when
we
came.
C
C
B
A
Okay
yeah,
the
link
is
there.
A
Yeah
no
problem
yeah
and
the
topics
are
slower:
okay,
okay,
you
also
guys
were
talking
about
sample
and
transparency
yeah
relations.
I
was
actually
talking
with
gideon.
I
was
telling
him
like
I'll
try
to
like
I'll
try
at
least
to
be
on
the
meetings
and
see
how
I
can
support
because
actually
like
what
some
questions
is
trying
to
accomplish.
I
think
it's
exciting,
like
getting
revenue
to
the
commons
and
make
this
thing
last
longer.
A
I
think
it's
very
important
and
super
cool,
but
other
than
that,
like
this
little
chat
they
had
with
with
gideon.
I
have
no
idea
what
shampoo
is
actually
doing
right
now,.
B
So
I
think
so:
we've
got
sample
divided
into
separate
phases,
but
the
initial
phase
is
based
on
making
an
attempt
to
either
reduce
spending,
or
you
know
account
for
the
burn
rate
and
decide
whether
it's
ideal
and
just
fine
or
decide
whether
there's
some
overlap
that
we
can
ideally
try
to.
You
know
minimize
in
terms
of
duplicate
spending,
but
it's
feeling
like
what
we're
coming
down
to
is
almost
like
a
full
accounting.
B
Not,
I
guess
not
necessarily
an
audit,
since
that's
already
being
done
here,
but
maybe
just
creating
a
more,
I
guess:
thorough
mechanism
for
accounting
with
improved
data
structures,
so
that
you
know
we
can
provide
a
much
broader
kind
of
conceptual
view
of
where
the
spending
is
is
going
and
and
try
to
at
least
create
some
some
further
data
fields
to
you
know
to
be
able
to
report
on
it.
You
know
more,
I
guess
flexible
way
or
a
diverse
way.
A
A
Okay,
great
yeah,
and
it's
also
related
with
this
second
topic,
like
I
was
having
a
chat
with
manu
in
the
forums
yeah
like
I
feel
like
you
know,
there
is
no
so
much
transparent
like,
and
maybe
we
it's
fine
like,
but
when
I
was
doing
the
audit.
I
was
like
oh
this
guy's,
making
this
sort
of
the
comments.
B
Sure
and
yeah:
that's
that's
another
kind
of
topic
that
we
were
discussing
initially
is
maybe
creating
some
sort
of
dashboard
to
you
know
you
know,
make
the
the
audit
or
the
accounting
just
more
visible
in
a
way,
that's
easy
for
people
to
just
jump
in
and
take
a
look
at
directly
and
rex
suggested
that
we
take
a
look
at
open,
collective,
and
so
I
was
browsing
their
their.
B
You
know
website
and
their
information
this
morning
to
see
if
we
can't
perhaps
fork
their
dashboard
and
try
to
apply
it
to
our
data
as
well
or
something
along
those
lines
and
see.
If
we
can,
you
know
avoid
duplication
the
same
way
so
that
way,
we
can
reuse
some
open
source
software
to
to
make
that
transparency
fully
visible
publicly
in
terms
of
in
a
simple
way,
I
mean
it's,
obviously,
you
know
transparent
in
the
way.
B
It
is
now
that
people,
if
they
really
want
to
know,
can
seek
that
information
out,
but
maybe
we
make
it
a
little
more
easy
to
to
view
and
peruse
if
we
use
some
sort
of
some
sort
of
web
facing
dashboard
or
something
like
that.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that'd
be
super
cool
and
we
could
also
have
like
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
I'm
understanding
it
correctly.
But
if
you
have
this
platform,
then
you,
the
only
thing
you
would
need
is
like
entry,
the
data
people
you
could.
A
Even
you
know
you
get
all
the
data
that's
around
the
commons
and
then
you
gather
all
this
data,
and
maybe
you
can
even
pay
people
to
put
this
data
in
a
form
or
in
a
platform,
and
then
the
platform
is
organizing
all
the
data
like
or
what
we
were
doing
manually
in
transparency.
If
that
can
be
done
by
a
program
that
be
huge,
because
we
I
mean,
I
feel
it's
taking
so
much
time
and
it's
even
one
of
the
of
the
topics,
also
the
agenda
making
the
daily
more
simple.
So
we
don't.
A
B
Yeah,
maybe
maybe
we
provide
some
sort
of
accounting
template
that
everybody
needs
to
adhere
to,
and
then
we
can
draw
that
data
directly
into
you
know
from
the
spreadsheets
into
into
the
dashboard.
In
a
way,
that's
you
know
convenient
for
everybody
to
view,
and
so
you
know
if
we,
if
we
make
all
the
data
fields
uniform
between
all
the
working
groups,
then
ideally
we
can
reduce
some
of
the
you
know
manual
effort
that
you
all
have
been
forced
to
to
provide,
and
obviously
it's
extremely
useful
you've
done
it
thus
far
but
yeah.
A
Yeah
definitely,
what
was
the
name
of
the
platform
again.
B
It's
open,
open,
collective
was
the
one
that
reacted
together
and
it's
it's
kind
of
like
a
a
giveth
in
the
way
that
it's
a
a
crowdfunding
platform
but
yeah,
it's
just
they.
They
probably
have
a
mechanism
that
we
can
afford
to
to
do.
Some
of
this
viewing.
C
Can
you
drop
the
link
in
the
agenda
gene
so
we
can
also
take
a
look.
A
Okay,
yeah.
The
next
thing
we
also
need
to
do
is
like
do
you
have
that
document
for
the
proposals
ivy,
you
know
when
people
is
asking
money
from
the
like
the
conviction,
voting
template.
A
A
You
know
there
are
some
groups
like
gravity
that
has
money
for
six
months,
but
they
are
not
even
saying
you
know,
what's
expected
to
get
on
the
first
month,
second
month,
third
month,
whatever
or
even
every
two
months
whatever,
but
you
know
have
some
kind
of
milestones,
so
we
can
track
easily,
especially
when
people
ask
for,
like
you
know
the
the
academy
they
they
actually
did
it
like
the
the
master,
but
not
because
we
asked
them
just
because
they
they
feel
the
need
so
yeah
I
mean
I
feel
like
this
should
be
added
on
every
time
like
someone
is
asking
for
funds.
C
I
think
this
was
discussed
in
the
community
covenant
because
we're
adding
the
accountability
section
in
the
cabinet
for
the
from
the
legal
working
group.
C
So
I
think
what
was
suggested
in
our
last
call.
Like
I
know
if
libya
I
haven't
talked
to
olivier
yet,
but
I
think
what
he
would
like
to
suggest.
If
the
the
project
that's
requesting
a
pro,
maybe
we
can
include
the
roadmap
section
in
this
template.
C
So
that's
one
thing
that
we
will
propose
to
soft
if
if
they
will
approve
that
and
then
the
mutual
monitoring
for
the,
because
what
we're
trying
to
promote
in
our
community
is
mutual
monitoring
right,
so
we
have
zen
hub.
We
have.
C
We
have
the
forum
post,
so
maybe
we
can
also
encourage
the
project
owners
to
provide
updates
in
the
forum
in
the
comments
in
the
forum
yeah,
like
should
be,
we
can
add
it
in
the
proposal
that
if
after
they
receive
the
fund,
maybe
we
should
encourage
them
to
provide
updates
in
the
forum
section
aside
from
the
roadmap
and
then
if
they
can
provide
the
roadmap,
the
community
can
counter
check
the
roadmap
against
the
updates
on
the
in
the
forum.
A
Yeah
that'd
be
awesome
yeah,
but
the
thing
is
like
also
I
have.
I
have
an
issue
like
says:
change
the
template,
and
that
was
a
topic
we
had
on
the
retrospective,
probably
like
the
last,
not
the
last
one
but
the
other
one
and
yeah
I
mean
libby.
Was
there
and
she
told
me
like
yeah,
maybe
I
I
could
formulate
that
question
since
what
I'm
trying
to
get
this
information
for
the
audit
so
yeah,
I
mean
what
I
just
hear
from
you
from
your
legal
call.
I
think
that's
awesome,
but
I
think
we
can.
C
We're
still
trying
to
sort
out
some
questions
and
some
suggestions
on
the
covenant,
so
tex
is,
on
top
of
that,
so
he's
still
revising
the
the
covenant
to
reflect
those
suggestions
on
the
accountability
section
but
yeah.
I
think
we
can
already
update
the
proposal,
but
I
know
I
don't
know
if
we
should
consult
with
a
soft
club
also
if
we
can
include
the
roadmap
section
in
the
in
the
proposal.
Template.
A
C
I
think
I
want
to
ask
about
the
feedback
on
the
audit.
Like
we
didn't
finish,
I
know
we
were
able
to
discuss
the
class
in
our
last
call
like
how
do
we
get
feedback
on
the
audit
or
how
have
we
distributed
it?
The
way
we
talked
about,
I
know
that
we
want
to
distribute
it
on
through
email,
the
forum
post,
yeah.
A
C
Yes
and
what
about
the
newsletter
or
your
email,
maybe
in
the
newsletter.
D
A
Yeah,
I
think
manu
is
also
working
on
the
newsletter,
so
yeah
I'll
I'll,
tell
him
like
apart,
like
for
feedback
and
that
they
should
reach
out
to
the
transparency
chat.
Then
we
use
the
information
from
that.
B
A
F
B
To
say,
could
I
just
ask
a
quick
question:
that's
yeah
not
sure
directly
transparency,
but
about
the
attendees
aspect
in
the
meetings.
I
want
to
be
able
to
advise
everybody
properly
as
to
how
to
get
praise
or
whether
that's
functionally
you
know
duplicitous
over
the
source.
Credit
aspect
so
is
is
source
credit
accounting
for
meeting
attendance.
Or
is
that
that
note
about
saying
something
in
pray
and
the
praise
telegram
channel
required
for
every
meeting
that's
attended.
So
what
would
be
the
ideal
mechanism?
B
It
says
to
say
hi
or
post
an
emoji
so,
but
I
just
haven't
asked
anybody
about
this
at
this
point.
Should
somebody
always
say
hi
for
every
meeting
or
post
emoji
for
every
meeting,
or
is
this
somehow
being
accounted
for
through
source
cred,
and
so
it's
not
required
in
praise
or.
A
B
Else,
okay,
but
so
it's
is
that
ideal.
First,
to
tell
somebody
to
post
an
emoji
or
say
hi
for
every
meeting
that
they
attend
or
is
somebody
that's
you
know
somebody
that's
running
the
meeting
praising
everybody
that
attends
I've
seen
some
where,
like
we
praise
people
for
attending
the
orientation
call
so
that
they're
not
required
to
do
that
to
go
to
the
telegram
channel,
but
is
that
ideal
for
people
that
are
that
are
just
not
in
other
calls,
I
mean.
A
C
Are
you
also,
I
remember
zepty
last
year,
I
think
we
have
encouraged
every
working
group
to
have
like
assign
someone
to
do
the
pray
so
because
usually
this
the
word
forgets
it
because
we're
running
the
meetings,
but
maybe
if
we
can
assign
someone
to
do
the
phrase
after
the
call,
maybe
I
know
if
you're
still
open
to
that
idea,
but
I
remember
that's
what
how
we
did
that
before
there's
someone
who's
assigned
to
praise
the
attendees,
so
we
don't
in
case
a
steward
forgets.
A
Yeah
regarding
the
question
I
feel
I
feel
like
praise
should
be
come
from
your
heart
right
like
not
like
people
just
you
know.
If
you
feel
crazy,
you
praise
and
if
you
don't
feel
praising
you
should
not
praise
at
all,
and
I
mean.
C
For
the
attendance
yeah,
the
source
isn't
accounting
for
that
yet,
and
we
want
to
yeah
praise
thee
for
people
for
attending
the
calls.
I
think
that's
what
we
were
doing
before.
A
B
Yeah
I
mean
it's
just.
It
would
just
be
ideal
to
at
least
have
some
sort
of
uniform
policy
so
that
it's
not
over
duplicated,
but
it's
you
know,
obviously
accounted
for.
I
mean
in
some
sense
it's
not
a
the
praise.
Term
is
kind
of
poor
in
that
sense
that
it's
not
clear
that
it's
it's
a
general
accounting
mechanism,
so
you
know,
but
if
we're
intending
to
incentivize
people
to
attend
the
meetings
and
not
not
just
for
you
know
showing
up
and
not
you
know
not
participating
in
it.
B
I
guess
in
some
sense,
but
you
know
it
in
in
another
sense
yeah,
for
just
showing
up
and
and
not
not
even
really
requiring
participation.
It's
it's.
You
know
kind
of.
A
Ideal
to
at
least
yeah-
I
I
agree
like
if
we
are
rewarding
people
just
for
coming
like
as
long
as
people
start
to
know
about
us,
there
will
be
like
1
000
votes,
just
farming
praise
yeah,
and
we
should
prevent
that.
I
think
it's
not
happening
right
now,
but
yeah.
I.
C
B
I
mean
even
if
it's
just
to
say
I
mean
so
if
we
say
that
you
just
need
to
say
hi
or
post
an
emoji,
then
that's
something
like
I
guess
I
mean
that's
some
functional
participation,
even
if
it's
you
know
the
absolute
bare
minimum
you
know
we
would
ideally
just
account
for
presence
and
participation
in
some
minimal
aspect.
Even
if
it's
accounted
for.
You
know
the
very
least
aspect
of
the
praise
spectrum.
A
I
can't
I
can't
agree,
but
I
also
think
like
this
is
something
that
should
be
pushed
by
either
advice
process.
Like
you
know,
if,
if
you
care
about
this
topic,
like
you,
make
a
forum
post
and
get
advice
from
the
community
make
a
proposal
or
if
you
don't,
you
know,
maybe
like
okay,
you
see,
there's
something
and
you
might
you
know
you
don't
want
to
push
it
yourself,
because
you're
busy
or
whatever,
I
think
like
the
good
place
to
share
it
like
you
would
like
these
things
to
happen.
A
B
B
A
Yeah
you're
welcome
hey
there
if
we
just
we're
grabbing
up.
I
don't
know
if
there's
something
you
would
like
to
share
any
intentions
of
destruction
for
the
transparency
meeting.
G
I
yeah
I
just
like
showing
up
at
transparency.
Sometimes
you
know,
I
thought
we
had
a
an
omega
meeting
or
something
you
know
like
a
psychology
meeting.
You
know,
but
I
maybe
it's
earlier.
G
Oh,
is
it
okay,
so
yeah,
it
seems
like
everybody
wants
to
always
have
this
meeting
at
the
key
time
so
yeah
I
and
then
you
know
failing
then
I
like
to
just
show
up
and
transparency
sometimes
try
to
advocate,
for
you
know
more
stuff
like
this,
and
I
I
do
wonder.
Sometimes
you
know
or
we
were,
do
we
like
try
to
recruit
people
into
transparency
at
all
like
on
twitter.
It
feels
like,
like
the
unsung
sort
of
unknown
group.
You
know.
G
A
I
mean
I
also
like
the
transparency
budget
is
kinda
is
probably
the
lowest
from
all
the
working
groups.
I
mean
it's
because,
like
we
also
like
a
low
amount
of
people
but
yeah
like
the
project
itself,
it's
smaller
than
I
don't
know
like.
If
we
had
you
know
more
scope
like
there's
one
topic
that
I'm
so
excited
about
is
like
this
civil
detection
for
people.
You
know-
and
you
know
that's
something
like
it
will.
It
could
be
fit
perfectly
on
transparency,
but
I've
not
the
capacity
to
run
this
project
so
sure.
G
Well,
that's
what
I'm
suggesting
is
that,
maybe
you
know
if
you
guys
were
a
little
bit
more.
You
know
like
talking,
you
know
up
and
because
you
know
like,
from
my
perspective,
just
my
whole
philosophical
approach
to
everything
that
I
hope
you
guys
hear.
A
lot
is
that
you
know
the
commons.
Is
everything?
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
so
from
my
perspective,
reality
itself
is
the
shared
thing,
we're
all
just
one
consciousness
experiencing
itself
subjectively
right.
So
the
commons
is
is
like
the
crucial
part
about
that.
G
Transparency
is
the
ability
for
people
to
see
into
that
process,
and
I
think
it's
actually
revealing
of
our
psychological
shadow
that
we
don't
actually
prioritize
transparency
very
much.
You
know,
even
in
its
own
working
group.
Do
you
know
me,
so
I'm
literally
advocating
that
you
guys
would
push
transparency
as
a
crucial
component
of
the
commons
that
exists
right.
So,
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
having
a
common
stack,
it
seems
to
me
that
transparency
is
absolutely
fundamental
to
that
and
shouldn't
be
like
a
passive
kind
of
thing.
G
It
should
be
an
active
participant
and
in
the
health
of
the
community.
You
know
so
I
just
like
to
pop
in
and
praise
you
guys
and
and
buck
you
up
a
little
bit
and
try
to
be,
like
you
know,
be
more
ambitious
and
stuff
so.
B
I'm
just
saying,
as
an
excellent
point,
I
mean
to
at
least
recruit
for
people
to
come
into
transparency.
G
G
Transparency,
what
about
you
know?
I
mean
there's
just
an
awful
lot
of
data
scientists
who
I've
talked
to
ygg
anderson
about
you
know
different
ways
to
ping.
You
know
the
health
of
the
community
and
all
this
stuff.
Why
is
that
not
being
run
under
transparency
right?
So
if
we
can
gather
all
this
data
about,
you
know
participation
of
people
and
put
technology
and
things
in
place.
You
know
why?
Wouldn't
we
do
that
under
transparency?
You
know
I'm
just
just
you
know.
A
G
Yeah,
I
have
a
very
different
idea
about
see
the
whole
duocracy
thing
just
ends
up
being
because
that's
that's
the
beginning
of
the
technocracy.
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying?
So
that's
that's
all
I'm
saying.
A
And
the
thing
like
for
me
is
on
transparency,
where
I
mean
one
of
my
important
goals
since
the
beginning,
it
was
like
transparency
shouldn't
be,
like
you
know,
like
an
entity
that
you
know
the
eye
of
mordor
in
the
lord
of
rings.
You
know,
like
everyone
trusts
transparency
like
because
then
transparency
becomes
a
weak
point
where
the
transparency
working
group
could
intentionally
or
unintentionally
do
mistakes,
and
you
know
it
would
be
worse
for
the
whole
so
like
we
were.
A
The
thing
we
are
trying
to
push
since
the
beginning
is
like
mutual
monitoring
and
then
the
whole
government
needs
to
take
care
of
transparency,
and
the
objective
of
the
transparency
working
group
is
facilitating
the
information,
so
the
people
in
the
commons
can
actually
monitor
itself
and
take
decisions,
and
actually
one
of
the
topics
of
today
was
like.
Should
we
monitor,
you
know
how
much
money
everyone
is
making
like
how
much
money
septimus
is
making
prg?
A
Maybe
durga
does
from
the
commons
prior,
it's
a
pretty
sensitive
topic,
but
you
know
yeah.
G
Yeah,
I
I
feel
kind
of
sensitive
about
it,
because
I
mean
this
is
a
little
bit
like
talking
about
workplace
pay
right.
So
on
the.
If
you
go
to
the
reddit,
the
subreddit,
our
ante
work,
you
know
talking
about
workplace
pay,
they're,
they're,
really
promoting
talking
about
workplace
pay,
and
you
know
I'll.
Just
give
you
one
example.
I
happen
to
know
a
working
group
where
I
was
fundamentally
involved
and
working
with
the
person.
G
You
know
almost
every
minute
for
a
year
and
a
half
and
they
ended
up
with
four
times
the
number
of
tokens
that
I
have.
So
it
seems
a
little
unfair
to
me.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
so
that's
the
question
you
know
for
me
is
how,
in
the
world
did
you
know
yeah?
Okay,
I
get
that
you're
a
steward
and
I'm
not
but
come
on.
You
know
like.
A
G
But
this
so
so
that's
that
this
is
actually.
This
is
actually
perfect
for
transparency.
You
know,
look
at
this.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
to
to
actually
say.
You
know
what
people's
sentiment
is
in
terms
of
of
that.
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying.
So,
if
I
have
a
sentiment
about
something
and
then
my
impression
of
that
is
just
materially
wrong,
do
you
see
what
I'm
saying
so,
let's,
let's
just
say,
I'm
used
to
you
know
being
put
upon,
and
I
I've
come
from
an
exploitative
extractive
economy
where
no
one's
cared
about
me
at
all.
G
So
I
have
maybe
perhaps
a
lack
of
ambition
or
awareness
about
the
practical
ramifications
of
what's
going
on.
So
it's
one
thing
to
say:
you
know
I
feel,
like
you
know,
other
people
should
be
getting
praise
and
maybe
putting
myself
down
a
little
bit.
That's
a
completely
different
thing
than
then,
and
you
know
working
so
closely
with
the
person
foundationally
and
then
you
know
having
them
have
four
times
the
amount
of
tokens
by
the
end
of
the
hatch.
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying?
That's
a
very
different.
G
G
You
know,
and
I
would
I
would
want
to
as
a
group
too,
to
sort
of
highlight
within
the
community
that
this
this
sort
of
thing
is
happening
and
try
to
do
things
about
it
right,
because
I've
had
a
bad
feeling
about
it.
For,
like
the
whole
time
since
the
hatch,
it's
bugged
me
the
whole
time.
I
just
have
no
idea
where
to
go
with
that.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
and,
and
so
it's
a
weird
thing,
but
I
do
I
do
kind
of
feel.
Like
you
know,
we
we
should
be
looking
at
that.
G
A
G
A
G
There's
some
crucial
people
that
I
know
that
feel
really
excluded
from
the
reward
system.
Group
myself
included.
A
I
mean,
regarding
the
words
like,
I
feel
like
this
way
yeah,
but
the
things
move
slowly
like
you
know
like
what
we
are
going
to
do
right
now
is
like
there
will
be
like
a
rewards,
distribution
and
every
distribution.
There
will
be
an
analysis
and
it
will
be
open
in
the
forum
and
anyone
can
say.
Oh
I,
and
actually
like
you
know
you
can
say
like.
A
Oh
in
this
distribution,
I
felt
I
you
know,
I'm
not
well
rewarded
or
whatever,
but
you
know,
since
it's
going
to
be
every
two
weeks
I
mean,
of
course
we
cannot
analyze
what
happened
in
the
past
and
change
the
past,
because
that's
that's
not
good.
We
already
saw
what
happened.
A
Exactly
yeah
and
we
learned
and
the
thing
is
like
right
now
we
are
going
to
make
this
analysis
every
two
weeks
and
make
it
public
into
the
forum,
so
anyone
can
say
their
opinion.
Oh
I
felt
like
this
distribution.
I
was
doing
more
and
I
feel
underwater
or
I
mean
I
feel
like
people
can
also
say:
oh
I'm
getting
more
rewarded
than
when
I
failed
and
probably
like
people
feel
it's.
I
should
be
disordered
and
that's
cool,
but
I'm
just
both
praising
that
right.
B
There
is
a
functional
tool
for
this,
where
other
people
can
kind
of
get.
You
know
give
their
opinion
as
to
the
value
that
somebody
else
created,
and
I
I
agree
with
us-
that's
really
important
to
have
other
people,
because
other
people
gauge
each
other's
contribution,
because
some
people
can,
you
know,
value
themselves
exceptionally
slowly,
extremely
yeah.
A
And
this
is
some
something
that
is
happening
right
now
like
there
is.
You
know
like
in
these
comments,
like
leaders
are
choosing
their
salary
and
there
are
leaders
with
more
salary
than
others,
and
just
because,
like
you
know
like
I
have
no
problem
to,
you,
know
pay
myself
like
as
I
deserve,
but
some
people
struggle
with
that
like
they
feel.
Oh,
the
you
know,
I
should
I
and
you
know
like,
and
I
feel
like
we
should
help
these
people
because
it's
you
know
it's
hurting
like
the
comments.
A
At
the
end
of
the
day,
I
made
a
forum
post
actually
like
yesterday,
it's
there
if
you
want
to
engage
with
that
full
post.
G
Can
I
share
something
with
you
guys,
like
some
of
you
might
have
seen
this
you
know
see.
I
feel
like
I
feel
like
what
I'm
observing
about
this
is
that
that
we
kind
of
started
with
this
step,
one
thing
and
then
we're
just
like
yeah
we're
just
gonna,
skip
over
everything
and
go
to
step
three
and
there's
no
in
between
step
right
and
the
cool
part
about
our
the
the
whole.
You
know.
Cultural
build
in
my
mind,
was
that
we
were
gonna.
G
Do
some
things
in
step,
two
right,
so
you
know,
but
but
I
what
I,
what
I
think
we
just
didn't
do
enough
of
was
to
to
do
some
of
the
other
things
right
like.
How
is
it
that,
because
we're
talking
about
this
right
now,
this
is
the
basic
psychological
difficulty
that
people
are
having?
G
How
do
you
actually
function
in
a
decentralized
way?
A
lot
of
people
just
don't
know
you
know
they're
not
used
to
it.
They
don't
know
how
to
feel
their
way
through
it.
The
the
all
their
references
point
are
all
from
abusive
systems
and
unequal
asymmetric
systems.
So
if
you're,
like
wow,
I'm
suddenly
being
rewarded
in
a
way
that
I
didn't
anticipate
because
I
just
came
from
an
abusive
system,
that's
a
very
different
thing
than
being
actually
rewarded.
G
G
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying
so
this
is
kind
of
this
is
kind
of
the
perspective
that
I'm
trying
to
bring
to
this
overall
dao
and
reflect
you
know
the
sort
of
shadow
psychology.
That's
existing
unless
we
intentionally
say
we
are
specifically
breaking
up
power,
specifically
trying
to
give
people
agency
and
autonomy,
because
if
you
don't
know
what
agency
autonomy
is
you
can't
fight
for
it?
You
can't
you
know
you
can't
advocate
for
yourself,
you
can't.
You
know
what
I
mean.
So
that's
all
I'm
saying
I
just
think
you
know.
G
Half
of
more
than
half
of
this
work
is
probably
this
re-education
re-perspective.
You
know
learning
about
all
these
sort
of
different
psychology
of
approach
of
things.
Rather
than
just
saying:
hey.
We
created
a
praise
system
and
pat
ourselves
on
the
back
and
act
like
all
the
things
are
solved.
You
know
it's
just
not
like
that.
So
that's
my
new
thing
now,
as
I'm
trying
to.
A
A
Things
happened,
but
in
the
past,
but
you
know
we're
learning
from
it
and
we
changing
that,
like
the
whole
system
is
being
rebound
and
there's
like
a
lot
of
analysis
in
there
I
mean
I
don't
know
how
it's
going
to
turn
in
at
the
end.
A
You
know
like
the
last
numbers
I
personally
saw
for
me
it
was
like
kind
of
the
same.
You
know
star
wars
on
the
top
of
the
ladder
and
people,
but
the
stores
are
also
working
a
lot,
so
you
know,
but
we
have
to
you
know
we
have
to
see
those
data
and
talk
and
in
the
forum,
like
you
know,
if,
if
we
have
all
these
data
in
the
forums
and
no
one
is
saying
anything,
it's
because
people,
you
know
it's
not
not.
You
know
if
someone
people
is
not
involved
enough,
like
you
know,
I
feel.
G
G
G
G
Feel
like
we're
we're
emphasizing
enough
rewarding
the
commonality
of
things.
You
know
what
I'm
saying.
What
we're
doing
is
we're
doing
the
same.
Damn
thing
as
before
so
boss
makes
more
than
me
multiples
of
what
I
make
do
you
know
what
I'm
saying,
and
so
here
we
are
so
I
from
my
perspective,
you
know
we
talk
about
ceo
pay,
you
know
in
in
in
what
is
it,
norway
or
sweden?
It
was
like
11
times
the
normal.
G
So
now
the
if
it's
great-
if
so,
why
wouldn't
I
want
to
be
a
steward?
I
you
know
I
get
all
the
tokens
right
so
so,
how
is
this
not
a
technocracy?
That's
what
I'm
saying
you
know
it's
like
an
even
when
I
was
asking
about
you
know
how
do
we,
you
know
navigate
this
new
thing
now
that
we
have
a
token
and
everything
and
griff
is
like
hey,
you
know
what
well
we
actually
built
a
system
that
works
well
for
wales
and
that's
about
it.
G
You
know
I'm
like
well
what
the
hell
we
need
to
do
that,
for
I
thought
we
were
trying
to
do
something
other
than
that.
So
you
know
it's
just
a
question.
It's
a
real
question
and
I'm
I'm
not.
You
know,
I'm
just
you
know
trying
to
reflect
back
that
that
we
can't
we
can't
make
the
in
and
the
problem
is,
is
that
we
make
an
assumption
like
well.
People
just
aren't
engaged
enough
and
it's
like
well,
but
why
do
you
think
that
is?
Do
you
think?
G
G
You
have
to
encourage
people
to
have
agency
and
autonomy,
you
have
to
teach
them
how
to
do
it
and
and
reward
their
agency
and
autonomy,
and
you
know
to
speak
up
when
they're,
when
they're
not
used
to
it
or
to
to
be
quiet
when
they're
used
to
be
being
loud.
You
know
things
like
that.
So
that's
my
point.
A
Yeah,
that's
fair
and
I
actually
agree
with
you,
but
we're
also
on
the
top
of
the
hour.
I
think
like
we
could.
You
know,
keep
this.
I
think
like
this
is
a
very
exciting
discussion,
but
I
feel
like
the
the
place
is
like
the
the
forums,
but
actually
because
I
don't
feel
like
there,
it
was
called
it's
also
like
it's
pretty
dev
focused,
but
you
know
as
soon
as
we
get
those
analysis
running
like
they
should
come
back
by
this
week.
A
Actually-
and
you
know
start
you
know
talking
there
and
yeah,
I
feel
I
I
honestly
feel
like
the
forums
is
like
the
best
place
to
chat
because
people
you
know
because
right
now
used
to
say
something,
and
maybe
I
I
don't
know
who
to
answer.
Maybe
I
need
to
think
right,
like
maybe,
and
I
feel
like
the
form
gift
is
yeah.
A
I
really
need
to
jump
off
another
meeting,
so
thank
you
guys
see
you
in
the
next
one.
Thank
you.