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Budget Committee, meeting 4, February 20, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
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Part 2 of 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN6uDb_PjTQ
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0:08:50 - Call to order
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A
We
do
have
quorum,
I
want
to
welcome
everybody
to
the
fourth
meeting
of
the
Budget
Committee.
This
is
our
final
wrap-up,
where
we
will
be
making
recommendations
as
a
Budget
Committee
that
will
be
moving
forward
from
this
committee
to
executive
and
then
from
executive
on
to
full
council
on
I
believe
March
7th.
A
We
acknowledge
the
land
we
are
meeting
on
is
a
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit,
the
Amish
Wahby,
the
Chippewa
dude
nashoni
and
the
wind
a
people's
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
First,
Nations,
Inuit
and
métis
people's.
We
also
acknowledge
that
Toronto
is
covered
by
treaty
thirteen
with
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit.
Of
course,
you
can
watch
us
on
YouTube
at
Toronto.
City
Council
live
at
Toronto,
dot,
CA
/
Council
on
your
computer
or
tablet
any
declarations
of
interest
under
municipal
conflict
of
interest,
a
councillor
late
and
I.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
I
now,
just
to
the
clerk's
do
I
need
to
start
producing
it
in
writing,
or
is
that
as
of
March,
March,
1st,
okay,
so
I'll
prepare
for
council,
we
have
to
now
start
preparing
them
in
writing.
Just
FYI
to
my
colleagues,
the
I
needed
to
Kerr
declare
conflict
on
the
Toronto
water
budget
as
it
pertains
to
the
blue
flag
program,
as
my
partner
works
for
an
organization
that
receives
a
small
fee
for
service
grant
from
the
city
to
administer
the
blue
flag
program.
Thank.
A
You
any
other
conflicts
seeing
none.
Today
the
Budget
Committee
we're
going
to
be
discussing
five
items.
We
have
bu
4.1,
Toronto
water,
bu,
4.2,
solid
waste
management
services,
4.3
terminal
parking
authority,
the
four
point
for
the
capital
and
operating
budgets
and
four
point:
five
additional
City
of
Toronto
reporting
requirement
as
a
result
of
regulation,
2286,
/co,
nine
budget
matters
and
expenses
I
will
be
holding
all
the
items.
I'll
just
want
to
go
over
the
the
rundown
of
what
to
expect
this
morning.
A
I
propose
that
we
go
to
the
top
of
the
order
work
our
way
through
the
r8,
supported
budgets
and
then
on
to
the
tax
supported
budgets.
There
were
a
number
dos
Olivia
will
be
going
through
the
briefing
notes.
There
were
a
number
of
briefing
note
requests
last
week,
she'll
be
doing
what
she
did
last
week
going
through
the
blue
and
the
green
sheets.
Once
we
have
done
that,
we
will
begin
in
speaking,
we'll
begin
with
the
rate
based
and
go
through
one.
A
Two,
three
four
and
five
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to,
of
course,
speak
and
move
motions
and
again
I'll.
Ask
that
if
you
have
draft
motions,
please
bring
them
to
myself
for
the
clerk
as
soon
as
possible,
and
if
you
have
any
motions
related
to
recommendations
in
the
sub-item
reports
bring
them
to
the
clerk.
A
So
we'll
begin
with
the
fruit
will
do
the
rate
base
first
will
will
do
actually
speaking
motions
and
then
we'll
vote
one
by
one,
just
like
a
regular
agenda,
but
just
we
hit
when
we
hit
the
operating
we
may
have
to,
depending
on
the
complexity
of
any
motions
coming,
we
may
have
to
take
the
recess,
but
we'll
play
it
by
ear
and
and
we'll
all
inform
anybody
as
we
move
forward.
So
any
questions
on
process
and
what
to
expect
this
morning.
A
C
Morning,
chair
members
of
committee,
so
what
I'd
like
to
draw
your
attention
to?
Once
again,
we
have
a
set
of
wrap-up
notes,
blue
and
green
for
our
rate
budgets,
and
it
says
in
the
third
line
rate
supported
programs,
and
then
we
have
blue
and
green
wrap-up
notes
for
our
tax-supported
program.
So
our
first
order
of
business
is
to
focus
on
the
rate
supported
program.
It
has
on
the
right-hand
side
in
a
box,
Revu
4.1,
4.2,
4.3,
blue
and
similarly
in
the
green.
C
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
is
that,
as
a
result
of
the
last
budget
committees
meeting,
we
have
revised
briefing
note
number
17,
which
there
was
a
request
to
provide
some
additional
information
around
funding
thing
for
the
National
Housing
Strategy,
and
then
we
have
briefing
notes
37
through
50,
which
were
distributed
in
two
packages,
I
believe
both
yesterday
and
they
were
the
work
of
all
staff
between
our
last
meeting
the
long
weekend
and
yesterday.
So
thank
you.
C
C
Another
how
many
billion
10
billion
okay,
all
right,
so
that's
before
you
and
all
the
recommendations
associated
with
that
that's
on
page
three
and
four
on
pages,
5
and
6-
are
the
wreckage
5.
The
recommendations
in
the
budget
notes
again
regarding
the
solid
waste
capital
program
and
that's
before
you
and
also
aligned
in
the
budget
notes
on
page
six
as
it
relates
to
Toronto
parking
authority.
There
is
a
report
that
is
before
you
on
the
bike
share
program.
C
What's
highlighted
in
the
top
half
of
page
six,
are
those
recommendations
related
to
the
capital
component
of
the
bike
share
program?
I
would
request
the
committee
to
consider
the
report
when
we
deal
with
operating,
so
we
can
just
pass
that
at
the
moment
and
then
finally,
we
have
the
recommendations
for
the
Toronto
parking
authority's
capital
budget
and
plans.
So
those
are
before
you
and
if
there
any
questions
regarding
that,
unless
and
if
not,
we
can
move
to
the
operating
for
four
rate
programs.
Any.
B
C
A
C
So
having
no
questions
on
that,
we
now
move
to
the
green
sheets.
That's
page,
one
of
19
is
where
we
start
on
page
three.
There
was
a
request
for
a
briefing
note
from
the
general
manager
Toronto
Water,
regarding
the
feasibility
under
the
current
policy
of
charging
for
highest
parameter
covered
under
the
industrial
waste
surcharge
program,
and
what's
the
feasibility
of
being
increasing
those
charges
levied
based
on
each
of
the
four
parameters,
so
that
is
before
you
and
I'll?
D
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
just
provide
some
background.
I
won't
read
the
background.
The
document,
that's
just
to
give
you
the
context
of
what
the
parameters
are
in
the
surcharge
agreements,
but
if
you
look
in
particular
on
page
two,
we
do
lay
out
the
the
way
we
calculate
our
charges
for
the
various
parameters
and
we're
essentially
taking
the
costs
of
treating
that
product
in
the
treatment
plant.
So
we
take
the
cost
and
and
then
come
up
with
a
dollar
per
kilogram
of
treatment.
D
The
the
motion
that
asked
us
to
look
at
increasing
that
that
fee
to
make
up
for
any
loss
revenue
for
charging
for
not
all
of
the
parameters
but
charging
for
only
the
largest
one
would
be
problematic
to
implement.
And
that's
what
we're
detailing
in
this
document
from
a
couple
of
fronts,
one
of
them
is
the
the
way
we
set
the
fees.
It
is
on.
A
total
wreck,
Austra
coveri
basis
and
what
was
being
proposed
was
essentially
just
adding
on
top
of
that,
without
any
link
to
the
costs
providing
that
service.
D
So
that
would
be
going
against
our
user
fee
policy,
which
is
supposed
to
be
full
cost
recovery
and
documented
recovery.
In
addition
to
that,
the
amount
of
shortfall
that
that
we
experienced
by
not
charging
for
all
of
the
three
or
all
of
the
parameters
and
only
charging
for
the
largest
one
varies
in
each
billing
quarter
and
it's
all
a
function
of
three
different
variables.
D
One
is
the
number
of
agreements
we
have
the
number
of
parameters
on
those
agreements,
the
water,
that's
discharged
by
by
those
companies
and,
and
so
that
number
will
will
fluctuate
and
for
us
to
estimate
how
to
make
up
that
shortfall
would
be
very
difficult
for
us
to
forecast.
So
that's
why
we
also
say
it's
not
feasible
to
just
raise
the
one
highest
rate
to
make
up
that
difference
to
be
impossible
for
us
to
calculate
effectively.
That
was
our
conclusion.
A
B
Just
to
be
clear
from
that,
this
is
the
request
to
raise
the
highest
rate
across
the
board
to
offset
for
the
one
point:
whatever
million
that's
really
not
recovered
and
you're,
saying
that
that's
not
a
feasible
process,
that's
correct!
So
if
we
wanted
to
move
to
a
full
cost
recovery
model,
we
would
go
down
the
route
that
you
recommended
in
2000
and
tell
me
all
2012,
which
is
reflective
in
the
motion
that
I
that
has
been
advanced,
circulated
that
I've
made
this
year
in
every
other
year.
Leading
to
this
point,
that's.
D
That's
correct:
if
that
was
the
objective
of
counsel,
to
to
do
full
cost
recovery,
then
you
would
charge
for
all
of
the
parameters
and
to
make
up
that
difference,
because
that
was
what
was
being
asked
of
us
to
look
at
was
to
make
up
the
revenue
but
not
charge
all
the
parameters
well,
you're
making
me
guess
what
that
might
be
the
best
way
to
do
it.
If
you
want
full
cost
recovery
for
total
revenue
is
just
to
charge
all
parameters
so.
B
D
D
Potentially,
there
could
be
a
challenge
by
some
people
that
we
are
charging
more
than
the
full
cost
ie
profiting
from
the
way
we
charge
and
that
could
potentially
be
challenged.
I
would
leave
that
to
legal
to
address,
because
a
user
fee
is
different
than
a
tax
which
is
different
than
the
rate
so
Cristina,
if
it's
from
accurate
with
that,
if
not
jump
in
please.
B
Okay,
so
we
really,
we
really
just
can't
do
it
this
way,
for
legal
reasons,
as
well
as
technical
and
and
if
I
could
ask
you
up
for
ethical
reasons,
you
have
company
Y,
releasing
one
parameter
company
X,
releasing
that
same
parameter
in
in
the
higher
concentration,
but
also
releasing
second
parameter.
So
if
these
companies
were
in
the
same
line
of
work,
company
X
would
essentially
be
paying
for
company
Y
to
release
their
this
additional
pollutant
or.
D
B
F
Yeah
I
just
I'm,
trying
to
find
it
in
the
briefing
note
and
I'm
trying
to
understand
just
to
be
clear
if
it
is
so
hard
to
estimate
how
we
have
before
us
a
costed
item
with
a
cost
as
precise
as
two
hundred
and
three
thousand
six
hundred
dollars.
How?
How
did
how
are
you
arriving
at
the
estimated
value
of
these
motions
through.
D
You,
mr.
chair,
that
would
be
as
the
snapshot
of
q3,
so
we
outlined
that
in
the
original
briefing
note,
so
the
third
quarter
billing
period
of
2018,
we
knew
exactly
what
we
charged
from
that
we
can
get
a
definitive
number.
So
it
is
an
it
is
a!
It
is
accurate
for
that
time
period.
This
quarter.
It
may
change
on
us.
So.
F
D
Correct
so,
if
all
variables
stayed
the
same,
we
had
the
same
number
of
of
agreements
in
place.
We
had
the
the
same
parameters
that
were
under
agreement
the
same
flow
rates.
We
would
see
this
additional
revenue
come
in.
If
that
changed,
the
revenue
number
could
change.
You
could
go
up
or
go
down
depending
on
how
if
we
get
more
agreements
or
less
agreements,
so.
F
Quick
question:
if
we
wanted
to
separate
this
out
so
that
the
commercial
blocks
were
we're
covering
this
cost,
but
not
the
residential,
that
would
be
a
policy
change,
but
would
it
be
a
provincial
legislative
change?
Could
we
do
it
with
some
work
in
a
standing
committee
or
or
would
we
need
a
provincial
change
as
well
I.
F
C
F
G
F
G
You,
mr.
chair
to
the
councillor
the
money
is
available
in
the
budget.
We
did
a
comprehensive
review
of
the
program
and
notice
that
there
was
some
money
within
multiple
accounts
that
accounted
for
days
and
through
that
consolidation
we
were
able
to
provide
the
additional
environment
days
within
the
current
budget.
Okay,.
H
G
You,
mr.
chair
to
the
councillor,
the
EDA
service
will
be
provided
to
all
councillors
who
wish
to
have
one
or
two.
We
did
send
out
a
request
for
dates
to
the
councillors.
We've
heard
back
from
nine
so
far,
who
wish
to
have
a
second
Environment
Day
and
those
will
be
provided
with
the
same
level
of
service
that
your
first
Eden.
G
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
one
of
the
challenges
with
offering
a
diverse
range
of
services
based
on
your
second
Environment
Day,
maybe
not
having
compost,
maybe
not
having
certain
items
collected,
is
that
it
really
comes
down
to
a
communication
issue
with
the
residents,
and
one
of
the
challenges
is
if
a
resident
shows
up
with
paint-
and
perhaps
that's
not
being
collected
at
this
environment
daylight,
there
will
be
a
challenge
with
delivering
that
high
level
of
service
to
the
residents,
so
keeping
it
consistent.
Having
that
same
message
is
what
we
recommend
thank.
H
A
Thank
you.
The
questions,
so
just
I
just
have
one
just
quick
just
to
clarify
that
if
a
counselor
wants
a
second
environment
day,
it's
up
to
them
to
contact
you
to
have
it
and
to
organize
that.
So
if
they
don't
contact
you,
they
won't
be
getting
a
second
one.
Correct
just
want
to
be
clear:
yeah!
Well,
that's
that
of
you.
So
we
just
need
to
be
and
will
probably
have
to
repeat
that
again,
a
counsel.
So,
okay,
thanks,
okay,.
C
So
that
concludes
the
number
of
briefing
note
requests
for
a
rate
program.
So
if
we
move
to
page
five,
just
like
to
summarize
motions
that
had
been
tabled
at
this
committee
and
refer
to
this
meeting,
the
first
one
for
Toronto
water
is
a
request.
I
believe
it
came
from
councillor
Layton,
recommending
that
effective
January,
1st
2019
Council
approved
the
industrial
waste
surcharge
program
formula
for
the
calculation
of
surcharge
fees
to
apply
to
all
treatable
parameters,
and
so
on.
C
So
that's
before
you
a
second
one
for
the
Toronto
parking
authority
in
the
bottom
page,
five
at
City,
Council
requests,
tronto
parking
authority
boards
request
the
president
Toronto
parking
30
report
to
Budget
Committee
on
the
following
for
consideration
prior
to
the
2020
budget
process.
One
ridership
changes
that
bike
share
station
is
directly
adjacent
to
the
Richmond
Adelaide
and
blur
Street
West
bike
lanes
from
before
implementation
to
implementation
and,
secondly,
the
feasibility
and
financial
impact
of
extending
bike
share
travel
times
from
30
minutes
to
45
minutes
for
annual
members.
So
those
are
two
motions
before
you.
C
We
continue
on
page
six.
We
are
now
looking
at
various
referrals
and
reports
that
are
before
the
committee
as
it
relates
to
these
three
programs.
So
the
first
one
comes
from
the
2018
budget.
We
discussed
this
at
our
last
meeting,
which
was
a
request
for
the
general
manager
Toronto
water,
to
bring
forward
four
counts
of
consideration
as
part
of
the
19
budget
process,
a
one-time
contribution
of
three
million
to
the
tree,
canopy
reserve
it
as
we
discussed
it
at
our
last
meeting.
It
has
not
been
included
since
the
motion
reached.
C
So
that
is
that
one
then,
as
it
relates
to
the
next
program
we've
got
before
you
are
the
operating
recommendations
from
the
budget
notes
for
Toronto
water.
So
that
has
been
identified
here
on
the
bottom
of
page
six
in
the
middle
of
page
seven.
So
it
sets
out
the
recommendations
for
approval
of
the
budget
and
the
contribution
from
current
capital
from
current
contribution
of
eight
hundred
and
sixty-seven
million
dollars,
and
so
that
approval
of
these
recommendations
would
establish
the
operating
budget
for
2019
for
Toronto
water.
C
The
other
item
before
you
on
Toronto
waters
report
on
the
2019
water
and
wastewater
consumption
rates
and
service
fees.
Everything
here
on
the
left
side,
I
devises
the
recommendations
to
ensure
I
recommended
a
rate
increase,
effective
April,
1st
2019
and
everything
is
listed
on
pages
8
&
9
of
these
wrap-up
notes
for
your
reference,
as
well
as
on
page
10,
moving
to
solid
waste
management
services,
the
member
motion
from
City
Council,
referring
or
recommending
approval
or
sorry
adopting
the
idea
of
having
a
second
community
Environment
Day.
C
We
just
heard
from
the
general
manager
about
the
ability
to
do
that
so
subject
to
the
outcome
of
the
budget
process,
and
then
there
would
be
to
community
up
to
to
community
environment
days
available
per
councillor
for
2019
and
going
forward
the
next
item.
That's
before
you
are
the
the
recommendations
in
the
budget
notes
as
it
relates
to
the
2019
staff
recommended
operating
budget
for
solid
waste
management
services
of
391
point
six
million
dollars.
C
C
What
is
before,
you
is
a
recommended,
2.2
percent
increase
for
2019
and
the
recommendations
are
all
referenced
for
you
on
pages,
13
and
14,
and
to
the
middle
of
15
as
we
relate
to
Toronto
parking
authority.
Here
is
the
report
regarding
bike
share
program.
So
this
report
is
before
you
that
outlines
recommends
financial
principles
for
the
operation
of
the
bike
share
toronto
program,
as
well
as
sets
out
recommendations
about
its
funding
for
2019
and
prior,
so
all
recommendations,
the
both
those
that
were
highlighted
on
the
capital
side
as
well.
C
Finally,
we
have
on
pages
18
the
top
of
page
19,
the
recommended
2019
operating
budget
for
the
toronto
parking
authority
again
outlined
by
the
services
it
provides
and
it
will
result
in
net
revenue
of
sixty
six
point:
five
million
dollars,
and
so
that
concludes
mr.
chair.
Those
items
that
are
before
the
committee
as
it
relates
to
the
rate
programs.
B
This
is
just
on
the
briefing
note
I'm
having
a
difficult
time
finding
it
and
I
just
wanted
to
the
the
request
brought
forward
by
councillor
Bradford
about
the
45
minute.
I'm
I'm
wondering
what
the
financial
implications
of
that
are
and
what
the
membership
implications
are.
Would
it
expand
membership
effectively
or.
I
We
looked
at
this
issue
last
year
and
when
we
changed
our
fees
and
looked
at
the
average
time
as
well
at
last
year,
we
consider
that
it
wasn't
financially
a
good
idea.
They
switched
to
30
minutes.
We
look
at
it
again
as
you've
requested
and
report
next
year
when
we
reach
our
fuller
size
of
6,000
I.
Think
it's
a
good
idea
to
6,000
bikes.
I
That
is
to
the
chair
that
it's
good
to
look
at
that
number
again
and
consider
the
actual
size
of
the
system,
because
we're
at
75
square
kilometers
now,
and
we
will
probably
get
close
to
doubling
that
again
and
that
would
be
a
appropriate
time
and
then
we'll
report
on
the
financial
impact
of
what
that
new
size
will
look
like.
This
is
also
impacted
by
our
operating
agreements
that
we
have
to
service
the
system.
The
45
minutes
will
impact
that
process
and
what
we
pay
to
look
after
the
system.
B
Changing
so
just
to
follow
up
to
that,
was
there
an
initial
number
when
the
first
one,
the
original
business
capes
for
bixie,
came
forward?
It
said
you
need
this,
many
bikes,
you
need
this
and
we,
we
kind
of
we
kind
of
chopped
it
in
half
and
went
with
a
different
option
was:
did
they
have
an
initial
number
about
what
that
free
ride
should
be?
What
that
first
ride?
Was
it
30
or
was
a
45
or
was
an
hour
well.
I
To
the
chair,
it
was
30
minutes,
and
that
was
the
original
proposal
was
for
3,000
bikes,
I
think
it
was
in
2008
and
it
was
following
the
similar
model,
that's
used
in
London
and
Paris,
which
is
30
minutes,
which
are
still
at
30
minutes
to
change
to
45
minutes
in
North.
America
has
coincided
with
a
hefty
increase
in
annual
membership
fees
from
approximately
$90
to
140
dollars.
I
I
To
clarify,
though,
you
could
have
a
different
approach
for,
because
you
talked
about
such
a
big
revenue
share
component
and
I.
Think
I
recall
roughly
1/3
is
on
overage
fees,
so
you
could
have
a
different
approach
for
annual
membership
versus
people
who
are
just
purchasing
a
pass
for
the
day.
Is
that
correct
to
the
chair?
Yes,
the
the
issue
with
the
we
split,
the
overages
in
the
two
different
time
periods,
a
30
minute
and
45-
is
that
the
will
create
more
confusion
and
we're
trying
to
not
create
confusion
with
our
rates.
I
That's
why
we've
kept
it
at
one
number
and
she
becomes,
and
the
recommendation
is
that
we
should
stay
at
one
number
from
last
year
for
30
minutes,
but
again
we'll
look
at
it
and
look
at
the
impact
of
going
to
say
one
time
period
of
45,
as
you
requested,
that's
great
yeah,
just
a
it
could
even
be
an
incentive
for
annual
membership
right
like
that.
That
could
be
part
of
that
as
well.
I
Yeah
to
the
chair
with
the
current
number
is
the
average
annual
membership
trip
is
something
south
of
13
minutes,
so
the
average
time
is
and
that
numbers
been
actually
going
down
over
the
last
three
years.
I
think
it
was
around
15
minutes
three
years
ago
and
then
went
down
to
14
in
2018.
It
was
down
to
13
minutes,
so
we're
looking
at
it
very
closely,
so
it
does
seem
like
a
feasible
idea.
Thank
you.
A
A
Don't
we
I
think
would
we'd
like
to
deal
with
all
the
rate
now
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
operating
and
capital.
After
is
that
I
think
we
have
all
the
motions,
as
I
understand
for
the
first
one
that
have
been
put
out.
So
why
don't
we
go
to
the
agenda
which
is
BU
4.1,
we'll
begin
with
2019
rate
supported
budgets,
2019,
water
and
wastewater
consumption
rates
and
service
fees?
A
G
G
Want
to
push
this
motion
for
it,
yes,
but
you
put
it
on
and
then
I'll
speak
to
its
get
to
that
started.
The
motion
first
next
time.
Okay,
so
this
is
my
motion-
is
that
the
general
manager
Toronto
water
report
to
City
Council
and
the
potential
impact
of
the
three
options
that
have
been
presented
to
the
Budget
Committee
on
the
2019
Toronto
water
operating
and
capital
budgets.
So
we've
had
briefing
notes
for
from
councillor
Layton's
motion.
We've
had
briefing
notes
about
reducing
the
block
to
fee
we've
had
a
briefing
note
from
from
councillor
Nunziata.
G
What
we
haven't
seen
is
these
three
options
being
looked
at
together
for
what
they
mean,
cumulatively.
So,
for
example,
some
may
have
a
rate
increase,
but
in
wastewater
cost,
but
may
have
a
decrease
in
water
use
costs
through
this.
So
I
just
want
to
see
what
is
the
cumulative
of
these
three
going
forward,
but
also
what
is
the
potential
impacts
of
any
of
these
changes
on
the
Toronto
capital,
but
capital
budgets,
so
might
projects
be
advanced
or
deferred
if
any
of
these
were
brought
forward?
So
I
just
am
seeking
some
more
information.
A
B
To
give
an
incentive
for
companies
to
reduce
the
cost,
their
costs
by
treating
parameters,
their
own
parameters
on-site
and
also
to
send
a
clear
message
that
if
you
are
going
to
use
and
benefit
from
city
services
directly
that
our
user
fee
policy
is
implemented
fairly
across
the
board,
I
do
not
and
will
not
support
the
motions
put
forward
by
the
budget
chief
around
the
block
to
rate
or
the
brief.
Any
any
motion
related
to
reducing
the
block
to
rate
I
think
we've
seen
that
we
will
be
enormous
ly,
underfunding
our
Toronto
water
capital
program.
B
If
we
choose
to
do
that
for
a
1%
reduction,
just
let's
recap:
there
was
something
in
the
range
of
of
15
million
and
for
a
2%,
a
30
million
or
something
there
abouts.
We
also
have
it's
been
demonstrated.
We
cannot
add
a
surcharge
to
the
largest
treatable
parameter.
It
is
against
our
user
fee
policy
and
pretend
would
be
challenged
by
the
courts.
B
That
doesn't
mean
to
say
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should
look
for
other
ways
of
encouraging
and
supporting
large
manufacturers
and
water
users
in
our
city.
We've
got
great
water.
We've
got
great
facilities.
We
should
be
encouraging
manufacturing
of
this
kind,
but
we
shouldn't
do
it
while
putting
other
policy
objectives
at
risk
like
reducing
the
amount
of
pollution.
That's
ending
up
in
our
natural
environment,
ending
up
in
our
sewer
system,
but
by
virtue
of
our
combined
sewer
overflow
systems,
also
the
natural
environment.
B
So
we
need
to
ensure
that
we're
doing
all
we
can
to
not
only
support
business
but
to
support
other
policy
objectives
like
water
conservation,
like
pollution
reduction
like
stormwater
runoff.
Those
are
all
things
that
we
could
be
incentivizing
manufacturing
manufacturers
to
do
while
giving
them
a
discounted
rate.
We
should
look
at
that,
and
so
that's
what
my
second
motion
is
doing
again.
I
gave
examples
of
this,
but
it
was
last
year,
I
didn't
see
them
show
up
this
year.
Last
year,
three
I'm
gonna
use
an
example.
That's
close
to
my
heart.
B
Three
breweries
showed
up
on
the
list.
Three
Toronto
breweries,
one
released
it
released,
one
parameter
a
second
buri
released
two
parameters
and
a
third
brewery
released
three
parameters,
so
essentially
the
brewery
that
released
one
was
figuring
out
a
way
to
treat
their
water
on-site
of
the
other
two
parameters.
So
they
they,
they
had
one
cost,
but
those
other
two
breweries
hadn't
made
any
efforts
to
and
if
the
cost
of
treating
the
second
parameter
and
the
second
and
third
parameter
from
those
other
breweries
was
being
distributed
over
everyone
in
the
rate
base.
B
Not
only
were
you
and
I
supporting
that
additional
supporting
that
brewery,
which
I
do
support
breweries
with
both
my
wallet
and
my
policy
work
at
City
Hall,
but
it's
not
fair
that
one
brewery,
that's
in
direct
competition
with
those
other
two
breweries
pay
for
their
pollution
and
the
cost
of
them
to
do
business
so
I
keep
doing
this
every
year.
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
this
year,
because
year
after
year
we
get
study
after
study
like
the
one
from
Watson
and
associates
that
demonstrate
it's,
not
water.
B
That
is
actually
an
expensive
piece
of
the
equation
for
businesses
in
in
Toronto
and,
in
fact,
when
you
add
up
all
the
utilities
and
property
taxes
together,
medium
and
large
scale
manufacturers
perform,
or
we
compare
quite
well
to
other
jurisdictions,
okay,
both
in
in
the
GTA
and
across
North
America.
You
can't
see
this,
but
it
shows
of
the
nineteen
twenty
municipalities
that
we
that
we
pulled
for
large
scare
met
and
scale
manufacturers.
We
actually
were
second
best
when
you
add
all
of
the
costs
up
together.
B
So
any
of
these
claims
that'll
once
you
do
this
they're
gonna
start
leaving.
The
city
is
not
the
case,
because
if
they
leave
the
city
to
one
of
these
other
jurisdictions,
they're
gonna
be
paying
more.
This
is
a
small
amount
of
money,
but
it
upholds
a
principle
that
the
Canadian
wastewater
and
we
Canadian
water
and
wastewater
Association.
A
Thank
You
councillor
any
other
speakers,
I
will
speak
very
briefly.
I
have
a
motion.
I
have
to
move
at
the
budget
committee
received
briefing
notes,
8,
9
and
39,
and
this
will
speak
very
briefly.
I
first
off
wanted
to
thank
the
staff
on
the
rates.
Auto
I'll
also
be
expressing
thanks
as
we
get
into
the
operating,
but
the
the
work
that
they've
done
to
bring
these
budgets
to
us.
A
This
is
an
election
year
budget
and
the
the
predominance
of
staff
having
to
provide
a
lot
of
information
to
us
and
us
being
able
to
absorb
it
fairly
quickly
in
a
short
period
of
time
can
be
consuming,
but
I
think
they've
done
a
credible
job
of
bringing
that
to
us.
I
just
want
to
thank
them
on
that
and
with
regard
to
your
counselor
Layton,
yes,
I
think
every
year
we've
had
the
same
motion.
A
A
A
A
Speakers
to
the
Adam
first,
so
I
have
two
motions
that
I
will
put
up
I
believe
the
procedural
at
City
Council
directed
the
confidential
attachment
in
2019
staff
recommended
operating
and
capital
budget
notes.
Solid
waste
management
services
remain
confidential
as
it
relates
to
the
personal
matters
about
identified
individuals,
including
municipal
and
local
board,
employees
for
labor
relations
or
employee
negotiations.
The
first
motion.
A
B
I'll
speak
briefly:
yes,
I,
just
like
to
thank
staff
for
bringing
forward
the
budget.
I
know
it's
difficult
to
take,
take
forward
rate
increases
and
particular
ones
that
are
gonna
gonna
have
an
impact.
I
suspect
we're
all
gonna
get
phone
calls
when,
when
people's
bills
start
arriving
not
because
of
the
2%,
but
because
we
we
said
2%,
but
in
fact,
with
the
reduction
in
the
in
in
in
the
rebate
that
people
are
gonna,
feel
this
a
lot
more
and
I.
I
think
the
way
that
we
could
have
presented
it
and
should
have
presented.
B
It
could
have
been
a
bit
more
realistic
about
how
people
would
have
get
felt
about
it.
The
budget
launch
seemed
it
it
kind
of
had
it
buried
a
little
bit,
but
they
people
don't
care
about
the
percentage.
It's
what
they
feel
when
they,
when
they
open
up
that
utility
bill
and
I.
Think
they're
gonna
feel
a
lot
more
and
B
they're
gonna
get
caught
by
a
bit
of
a
surprise
and
we'll
probably
get
calls
saying
well,
I
thought
I
was
only
getting
a
2%.
We
get
the
same
thing
every
time.
B
Someone
gets
a
property
tax
bill
and
we
say
you're
only
getting
it
you're
only
getting
a
an
inflationary
increase
and
then
they
open
up
and
when
you
start
adding
in
the
impact
assessment
change
and
all
this
they
go
WOW
and
I.
Think
that's,
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
that
sentiment
when
people
are
opening
up
their
utility
bills
and
we
probably
could
have
saved
some
time
had
at
the
original
outset
had
been
you're
gonna
feel
more
like
a
15%
20%
increase.
B
H
I
just
want
to
make
one
point:
councillor
Layton
talked
about
the
communications,
but
as
well
as
when
we
send
out
the
utility
bill.
If
it's
possible
as
well
I'm,
not
gonna,
move
a
motion
on
it
is
to
explain
to
residents
and
try
to
encourage
residents
as
as
well
was
to
go
for
the
smaller
bin,
because
a
lot
of
residents
are
not
aware
of
it,
and
my
ward
in
particular,
everyone
has
a
big
bin
I,
don't
know
why.
But
they
all
do
so
and
we,
my
office,
has
tried
to
communicate
it
to
my
constituents.
H
A
A
And
all
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried
I
believe
item
as
amended
Oh
favor
opposed
that's
carried.
Okay.
Next,
we'll
go
on
to
bu
4.3,
the
2019
rates
supported
budgets
for
eternal
parking
authority,
I,
believe
speakers
today
I
know
councillor
Bradford.
You
have
a
motion
that
you
moved
at
the
beginning.
So
if
you
want
to
just
it's
already
before
us,
but
if
you
want
to
maybe
reintroduce
that
we'll
put
it
up
on
the
screen.
A
I
Well,
just
speaking
to
it,
and
we
kind
of
did
briefly
through
our
questions,
there
I
think
it's
important
as
the
network
expands
and
we
continue
to
expand.
We've
seen
growth
in
the
bike
share
program
that
we
look
and
continually
to
look
at
possible
ways
to
incentivize
commuting
through
active
transportation,
finding
different
ways
to
do
that.
This
motion
looking
forward
and
the
2020
budget
process
reflects
that,
and
also
with
the
you
know,
resounding
success
that
we've
had
on
Richmond
and
Adelaide
taking
and
Bloor
Street.
Taking
a
look
at
that
information.
I
Looking
at
that
data
and
seeing
how
that
fits
into
the
equation
with
respect
to
bike
share
as
the
network
grows,
I
think
it
is
feasible
and
there
you
know
previous
councillor
was
was
riding
in
from
Scarborough.
People
do
make
those
trips
and
just
understanding
from
an
annual
membership
perspective.
Do
we
need
to
tweak
some
of
the
parameters
around
that
to
facilitate
commuting
to
provide
some
relief
on
our
roads
and
our
transit
through
active
transportation?
However,
we
can
do
that
we
need
to.
We
need
to
be
looking
and
understanding
what
the
implications
are.
B
Yeah
I'll
just
say:
I
I
think
that
the
expansion
of
of
the
bike
share
program
in
the
in
the
purview
of
Toronto
parking
authority
has
been
a
great
success.
I
love
to
see
its
growth
I'm
glad
we
have
some
support
from
other
levels
of
government,
including
from
our
our
own,
with
through
development
applications
with
the
use
of
section
37.
B
What
have
I
could
do
that
and
then
they
they
now
started
to
have
an
option
if
they
didn't
previously
own
a
bike.
I
I
think,
though,
that
it
was
really
important
and
that
there's
programs
like
this,
that
will
cost
money
and
and
and
yes,
the
bike
share
program.
Does
we
heard
from
a
deputy
at
one
of
our
one
of
our
public
Town
Hall
sessions
that
was
talking
about?
They
ran
a
bike
loan
program
and
now
they
couldn't
anymore,
because
it
just
wasn't
that
feasible
to
to
to
have
a
bike
rental
program
because
of
bike
share.
B
But
that's
that's
not
a
bad
thing
if
we're,
if
we're
figuring
out
ways
to
lower
barriers
to
cycling,
so
that
people
don't
have
to
make
the
investment
by
the
lycra
my
councillor,
Bradford
or
or
anything
else,
and
now
they
have
now
that
image.
In
my
head,
I,
the
we
we've
reduced,
a
barrier
and
I
think
that's.
That's,
has
started
people
down
a
longer
path
of
becoming
a
cyclist
in
the
City
of
Toronto
and
I.
Think
that's
a
great
thing
and
it
probably
couldn't
have
been
done.
If
we
didn't
have
a
public
agency
driving
it.
A
A
So
that's
a
three
and
four
and
Josie
will
be
going
through
the
again
the
briefing
notes,
the
blue
and
the
green
sheets
and
then
from
there
once
we
do
that,
I'll
ask
if
there's
and
as
we
have
done
in
use,
if
there's
any
overall
questions
left,
hopefully
not
I.
Think
we've
had
a
good
opportunity
to
ask
as
many
questions
as
needed,
but
I'll
offer
one
last
opportunity
for
questions
and
we'll
go
into
speakers
on
the
operating
and
capital.
Okay,
Josie.
C
Okay,
three
mister
chair
will
be
treating
to
the
capital,
the
tax
rate
of
capital
budgeted
plan
and
so
we're
on
the
blue
sheets
pages
a1
of
14,
and
it
says
bu
4.4
in
a
box
in
the
right-hand
corner.
So
starting
on
page
two,
its
briefing
note
number
46
that
was
distributed.
It
was
a
request
to
to
myself
to
provide
a
budget
briefing
note
on
the
estimated
unmet
capital
needs
for
the
City
of
Toronto
over
the
next
10
years.
Net
of
the
TTC's
stated
thirty
three
billion
in
unmet
needs
through
its
capital
investment
plan.
C
So
that
briefing
note
is
here:
we've
essentially
consolidated
what
was
sitting
in
each
of
the
budget
notes
to
bring
it
into
one
place,
there's
an
attachment
that
summarizes
the
number
of
projects
in
total
over
the
ten
year
period.
The
unmet
needs
are
about
twelve
billion
dollars
with
eight
point.
Almost
four
billion
in
in
debt
funding
required
we've,
also
given
additional
five
year
for
those
projects
that
actually
begin
in
the
ten
year
period,
but
don't
extend
out
and
get
completed
in
the
five
year.
C
So
we're
looking
at
a
total
of
thirteen
and
a
half
billion
gross
and
eight
point
six
billion
of
debt
fund,
based
on
the
estimates
that
we
have
today,
both
on
the
expenditure
side
and
on
the
funding
source
side.
So
we've
been
doing
this
since
2015,
so
we
can
get
better
visibility
of
what's
not
making
it
into
the
capital
plan,
both
from
capital
planning
and
budgeting
perspective,
but
also
to
help
support
financing
strategies
to
understand
the
requirements
that
are
coming
forward.
C
What
the
briefie
note
also
identifies
for
you
is
that
when
we
look
at
this
as
part
of
the
annual
budget
process,
we've
established
some
criteria
to
help
set
some
priorities
so
that
we
can
consider
what
needs
to
move
forward
based
on
any
additional
debt
capacity
or
other
funding
sources
that
can
be
secured.
What's
not
on
the
list
is
the
transit
expansion
program.
Work
is
underway
to
revise
all
that
there's
actually
report
coming
forward
in
early
q2,
so
that
would
be
coming
forward
on
its
own.
As
highlighted
in
the
launch.
C
You
know
there
are
a
series
of
secondary
master
and
service
plans,
so
we
only
have
identified
here
what
has
been
before
counselor,
which
is
a
kind
of
underway.
There
were
always
emerging
city
or
local
priorities
where
opportunities
for
revitalization
and
development,
if
they
haven't
been
through
committee
or
council
they're,
not
here
and
of
course
anything
beyond
the
10
year.
Capital
plan
in
earnest
is
not
here.
F
Yes,
I'm
trying
to
find
am
I
reading
this
wrong
I'm
trying
to
find
the
state
of
good
repair.
This
is
capital
unmet
needs
and
when
I
open
it
I've
I've
got
I've,
got
a
what
looks
like
it's
a
state
of
good
repair,
stuff
and
then
growth
related,
but
under
state
of
good
repair,
I,
don't
see
all
the
divisions.
So
three
here
we
are
here,
we
are
for
transportation
services.
I
can't
seem
to
get
if
I
take
the
two
places
here.
F
I,
don't
see
all
the
state
of
good
repair,
because
it's
not
adding
up
to
what
appears
in
the
transportation
presentation,
which
is
that
at
the
end
of
the
10
year,
capital
plan
we
will
be.
We
will
have
three
billion
dollars
worth
of
unmet
state
of
good
repair
needs,
but
I,
it's
not
adding
up
to
that
here.
So.
F
F
C
F
There's
actually
three:
three
and
a
half
billion
in
state
of
good
repair
needs
and
transportation.
Then
service
improvements
adds
another
75
adds
another
75,000
to
that
or
75
million,
and
then
another
1.2
billion
in
growth
related
needs
and
that's
just
transportation
services
that
okay
got
it
have
to
combine
it
all
up
there.
Thank
you,
Thank.
C
Well
page
three
is
briefing
note:
number
47
also
request
made
to
my
staff
providing
the
10-year
historical
state
of
good
repair
budget
and
then
the
amount
spent
in
both
dollars
in
percentage.
So
briefing
note
number
47
highlights
that
over
the
10-year
period.
On
page
2
of
the
briefing
note
we
have
summarized
the
budget
by
year,
which
ranges
from
1.4
billion
to
two
and
a
half
billion
for
the
state
of
good
repair.
C
C
So
essentially,
what
it's
saying
to
us
is
that
on
average,
over
the
ten
year
period,
we've
had
a
state
of
good
repair
tax
supported
capital
budget
of
almost
two
billion
dollars,
we're
spending
about
1.4
billion
on
average
or
under
spending
about
half
a
billion
the
representing
about
28
percent,
but
have
a
spending
rate
of
about
72%.
So
it's
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
with
staff
over
the
last
few
years
to
try
to
better
refine
those
those
estimates.
I
do
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
table
towards
the
bottom
of
that
briefing.
C
Note
that
then
compares
the
spending
rate
to
the
overall
spending
rate
state
of
good
repair
versus
overall,
so
we
tend
to
have
higher
spending
rates
in
state
of
good
repair.
It's
not
quite
as
complex
as
a
service
improvement
and
growth
related
projects
that
have
you
know
stakeholder
a
lot
of
stakeholder
engagement,
multiple
parties,
potentially
other
third
party
funding
and
more
complexity
and
delivery.
So
mr.
chair,
that's
the
information
on
that
briefing.
C
Budget
and
actual
spending
on
state
of
good
repair
over
the
last
ten
years
for
Toronto
Community
Housing
Corporation.
So
that
is
briefing
note
number
38.
The
information
is
actually
summarized
on
page
five
of
these
wrap-up
notes,
and
it
shows
that
from
2013
state
of
good
repair
budget
was
about
60
million
by
2018.
It's
moved
up
to
about
300
million
dollars
and
we'll
show
you
that
they've
essentially
spent
almost
everything
that
they
get
on
an
annual
basis.
C
F
J
F
J
F
F
J
F
F
C
Three
mister
chair.
That
concludes
the
number
of
additional
briefing
notes
for
the
city's
tax-supported
capital
budget
in
plans.
So
moving
to
page
six,
there
are
emotions
that
have
been
tabled,
two
of
which
were
from
a
prior
meeting,
the
first
for
city
planning,
it's
the
top
of
page
six
they're,
requesting
that
the
chief
planner
executive
director
city
planning
report
in
time
for
the
2020
budget
process
on
the
amount
of
section
37,
Sons
secured
for
affordable
housing
and
an
affordable
housing
initiative
citywide
over
the
last
five
years.
C
The
second
one
is
directed
to
the
TTC
Commission,
requesting
that
the
city
manager,
in
consultation
with
the
chief
executive
officer
of
the
TTC
report
in
time
for
the
process,
the
request
TTC
and
the
city
Toronto's
me
to
do
the
provincial
federal
governments
for
operating
capital,
investment
in
Toronto's,
a
transit
system
and
the
current
and
projected
funds
available
from
other
levels
of
government,
the
10
year,
capital
budget,
the
time
periods
for
which
the
funding
is
available.
In
any
addition,
funding
request
that
should
be
made
to
the
provincial
and
federal
governments
moving
to
page
seven.
C
C
So
there
is
a
need
to
add
a
1.9
million
dollar
capital
project
that
will
be
funded
from
the
sponsorship
proceeds
to
replace
the
signage
tin
in
order
to
install
the
new
named
facilities,
the
first
being
the
sony
center,
which
is
being
renamed
to
the
Meridian
Hall
and
the
Toronto
Centre
for
the
Arts
to
be
renamed
as
Meridian
Arts
Center.
So
emotions
required
to
adjust
their
capital
budget
to
do
this
work.
C
C
So
the
first
one
top
of
page
8
was
a
letter
from
City
Council
directing
the
budget
many
budget
committee
to
consider
funding
the
implementation
of
community
safety
zones
at
every
school
in
Toronto,
including
high
schools
and
private
schools.
As
part
of
this
process,
you
heard
our
last
meeting
from
the
general
manager
that
the
funding
that's
in
the
capital
budget
and
plan
will
in
fact
implement
all
those
zones
at
every
school,
and
so
it
meets
the
requirement
here.
C
The
next
item
is
a
letter
dated
December
19th
from
City
Council
regarding
the
implementation
of
additional
road
safety
measures,
an
acceleration
of
the
vision,
zero
road
safety
print
plan.
So
this
has
also
been
directed
to
the
committee
to
consider
the
allocation
additional
funds
so
what's
been
identified
here.
In
the
right
hand,
side
is
a
summary
of
what
has
been
approved
to
date,
so
there
was
6.3
million
in
the
18
budget
process
which
did
accelerate
the
the
initial
plan
as
well.
C
So,
in
addition
to
those
two
items
starting
on
page
9,
we
now
have
a
series
of
transmittals
regarding
various
capital
budget
and
plan
requests.
So
following
middle
of
page
9
is
a
report
from
the
office
of
the
lobbyist
registrar,
requesting
approval
of
the
capital
budget.
That
requires
one
point:
one
six:
five
million
over
the
10-year
period
on
the
next
page
is
the
report
from
the
office
of
the
ombudsman
requesting
700,000
over
the
next
ten
year
period
for
additional
functionality
and
technology.
C
The
bottom
of
page
10
is
a
letter
from
the
Toronto
Public
Health
Board
or
the
Board
of
Health
scuse
me
with
its
recommendations
regarding
the
10
year
capital
plan
for
Toronto
Public
Health.
We
noted
that
in
this
case
that
the
what's
in
the
staff
recommended
capital
budget
plan,
it's
not
the
same
as
what's
before.
It's
from
the
Board
of
Health.
C
We
have
included
additional
funding
to
carry
forward
to
have
to
ensure
that
there's
carry
forward
funding
to
complete
five
projects,
they're
itemized
on
pages
10
and
11,
as
well
as
one
project
that
was
before
the
Board
of
Health
that
it's
not
here,
which
is
a
project
regarding
the
document
and
records
management
system,
implementation
that
is
being
deferred
as
it
is
not
ready
to
proceed.
Finally,
we
have
before
is
the
transmittal
for
the
Toronto
Transit
Commission,
with
its
recommendation
for
the
10
year
capital
plan.
C
We
noted
on
page
12
and
13
here
that
every
he's
consistent
other
than
one
matter
in
the
10
year,
capital
plan,
where
there's
an
additional
request
of
24
million
dollars.
That
is
not
in
the
staff
recommended
budget.
There's
work
that
needs
to
be
done
between
transportation,
TTC
in
the
city
to
ensure
there's
alignment
on
that
project.
So
having
said
that,
then
we
would
receive
that
on
the
back
page,
page,
14
or
transmittals
for
the
Toronto
Police
Service.
C
The
board
here
is
requesting
and
the
staff
recommended
budget
includes
the
full
value
which
is
575
million
dollars,
gross
requiring
218
million
dollars.
Debt,
so
that
is
consistent.
The
staff
recommended
items
we
do
have
another
member
motion
that
is
from
City
Council
regarding
the
Toronto
Community
Housing
Corporation,
in
which
it
adopted
item.
Forty
three
point:
four,
eight
asking
us
to
the
committee
to
consider
one
time
increase
in
funding
patron
of
community
housing
to
fully
compensate
them
for
any
reduction
in
profit
from
the
Leslie
Naimark
revitalization
project.
C
We
noted
last
meeting
that
what
funding
is
in
place
and
our
understanding
that
this
fund,
any
consideration
of
the
motion,
would
be
for
2021
when
the
project
comes
to
its
conclusion.
So
having
said
all
that
mr.
chair,
it's
now
open
to
the
committee
and
just
to
note
that
as
part
of
the
operating
will
recommend
all
the
we'll
deal
with
all
the
recommendations
in
the
budget
notes
as
it
relates
to
castle.
A
C
Okay,
we're
turning
to
page
four
of
the
final
document,
the
green
sheets
for
bu.
Four
point
four
and
point
point
four
point:
five!
So,
as
noted
earlier,
we
have
a
revised
briefing
note
number
17.
There
was
a
request
at
the
last
Budget
Committee
to
included
the
Appendix
A,
which
outlines
the
federal
housing
and
homelessness
funding.
That's
been
received
between
2016
and
2019.
So
there's
an
appendix
that's
now
been
attached
for
that
revised
briefing.
Note
there
any
okay!
C
Okay,
so
moving
to
page
five,
so
briefly,
note
number
thirty-seven
as
a
response
for
the
general
manager
of
shelter,
support
housing
administration
that
had
a
series
of
questions
which
I'm
not
going
to
repeat,
but
they
are
outlined
on
page
five
and
six
and
the
answers
are
all
here.
So
if
there
are
any
questions,
it's
regarding
additional
information
on
shelter
in
24-hour
respite
sites.
C
C
So
what
it's
showing
is
that
of
the
hundred
in
almost
two
hundred
million
dollar
increase
between
2016
and
nineteen,
that
it
was
primarily
your
twenty
five
percent
of
that
was
sorry.
Most
of
that
was
funded
through
property
tax
increases.
One
hundred
fifty
two
point:
five
million
we're
on
page
seven.
Sorry
briefing
note
number
45
yeah.
This
is
a
request
regarding.
C
The
increase
in
sub
C
to
the
TTC
over
the
last
four
years,
so
there's
a
briefing
note
before
you.
It
actually
has
a
table
one
on
page
two,
which
summarizes
the
expenditure
side,
as
well
as
the
own
revenues
from
the
teaching
see.
That
then
gives
us
the
subsidy
provided
or
the
net
funding
provided
we're
on
operating
counselor,
okay,.
F
C
F
K
The
open
hours
concept
actually
is
a
much
more
expansive
plan.
Currently,
Sunday
service
is
three
and
a
half
hours.
The
branches,
as
noted
here,
the
true
full
open
hours
plan
has
it
going
to
five
hours
originally
from
three
and
a
half
and
then
to
eight
hours.
So
this
should
more
than
double
in
the
full
open
hours
plan
right.
A
C
And
it's
a
request
through
mr.
chair
of
the
Toronto
Public
Library,
it's
page
9
and
briefing
note
number
43
on
the
costs
and
funding
details
of
the
youth
hubs
added
in
the
last
four
years.
So
this
briefing
note
identifies
that
since
2015,
we've
added
nine
new
youth
hubs
across
the
city
and
that
the
staff
recommended
funding,
that's
in
the
budget
would
add
two
more
bringing
it
to
a
total
of
eleven.
F
K
Two
years
ago
we
submitted
a
plan
a
three
year
plan
for
youth
hub,
as
you
saw
in
the
last
budget
committee
meeting
Stephanie
presented
a
plan
with
youth
youth
spaces,
both
in
PF
n
R
and
T
PL,
and
that
the
library
had
an
additional
ten
plans
in
that
look
internally
at
the
library
we
have
a
plan
for
20
youth
hubs,
20
additional
you
thumbs,
and
so
we
have
an
internal
plan
for
additional
hubs
that
we're
taking
to
the
board.
Also
right.
F
And
so
the
the
if,
if
the
funding
was
there,
these
are
all
going
inside
existing
libraries.
So
if
the
funding
was
there,
the
space
that's
contemplated
in
each
of
the
branches,
is
there
it's
just
a
matter
of
the
funds
to
to
deal
with
it?
There
isn't
a
matter
of
well
a
library
we're
talking
about
and
that
one
is
still
not
does
not
exist.
Yet
these
are.
These
are
existing
branches,
and
you
know
exactly
where
you
would
apply
the
funds
if
you
had
them
right
now,
through.
K
The
chair,
yes,
so
we
do
have
a
preliminary
plan
of
where
the
youth
hubs
would
go.
We
would
stagger
them
based
on
which
branches
are
undergoing
a
renovation.
Therefore,
we
would
open
the
Youth
hubs
when
the
renovation
is
done
and
so
on,
but
we
do
have
a
plan
of
where
all
the
rooms
would
go
and
they
would
be
within
the
existing
branches.
That's
right
right.
A
C
So
three
minutes
to
chair
we're
on
page
10
of
the
green
sheet.
This
briefing
note
number
44
request
of
the
CEO
of
TTC
to
provide
a
budget
briefing
note
on
the
methodology
used
to
calculate
the
proposed
elaine
occupancy
recovery
fee.
The
briefing
note
highlights
that,
currently
we
have
a
temporary
street
occupation
permit
fee
that
the
city
or
transportation
services
uses
in
the
right-of-way,
but
it
doesn't
include
any
recovery
for
incremental
transit
costs.
However,
when
lanes
of
traffic
are
closed
as
it
is
impacting
service
hours,
and
so
this
proposals
to
try
to
address
that
question
questions.
H
L
A
correct
through
the
chair,
there
is
no
fixed
charge.
What
it
is
is
it's
based
on
the
actual
impact
that
the
development
will
have
on
our
service.
There's
a
there's,
a
fixed
hourly
rate,
a
part
of
our
review
would
be
to
determine
how
much
service
would
have
to
be
added
added,
be
either
on
peak
or
off-peak,
and
then
that
would
be
multiplied
against
our
recovery
on
a
bus
which
would
be
about
97
dollars
an
hour.
H
This
is
based
on
on
once
once
the
the
development
is
complete
on
the
user.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
like
I?
Don't
understand
that
so
I
think
it's
really
so
your
chart,
you,
you
want
to
charge
a
user
fee
for
when
there's
a
development
application
and
where
there's
there's
a
development
and
charge
the
developer
IP
or
for
the
road
yeah.
L
Through
the
chair,
what
we
would
be
doing
is
consistent
with
what
we
do
with
both
TTC
capital
projects,
city
capital
projects
and
even
external
capital
work
where
there's
a
use
of
the
right-of-way
that
restricts
our
ability
to
meet
our
service
standards.
Okay
and
we're
required
to
it,
adjust
the
service,
that's
provided
to
adhere
to
our
standards.
L
What
this
fee
represents
is
the
incremental
costs
associated
with
that
adjusted
service,
but,
prior
to
that,
we
would
be
working
and
reviewing
the
application
to
try
to
determine
ways
to
minimize
the
impact
alternative
options
to
ensure
that
there
is
no
impact
on
the
right-of-way
where
our
buses
or
streetcars
may
have
to
run.
So
it's
really
it's
twofold.
One
is
to
try
to
minimize
the
impact
in
the
second,
where
the
impact
can't
be
avoided
that
we're
recovering
full
costs.
Okay,.
H
L
The
fee
is
based
on
the
review
of
the
application
and
determination
of
what
the
impact
will
be
on
our
service,
so,
depending
on
what
the
impact
will
be
on
our
service
and
if
and
when
we
would
have
to
add
service
to
accommodate
the
fee
would
be
based
on
the
direct
cost
of
the
added
service.
So
if
it's
determined
that
we
would
need
to
add
ten
hours
of
service
at
$97
an
hour
and
nine
hundred
and
seven
dollars,
that's.
C
So
briefly,
note
as
number
49
sets
out
nice
comparisons
are
actually
some
nice
graphs
there
to
compare
us,
but
what
it
does
show
is
that
when
we
look
at
the
Presto
adult
single
fares
against
all
the
GTHA,
the
senior
and
the
youth
single
fares,
it
also
notes
that
we
are
the
only
system
to
provide
free,
free,
free
travel
for
those
six
to
12.
That's
no
one
else
does
that
for
any
questions
on
those
details.
C
F
F
I
I
was
surprised
to
note
first
of
all,
the
very
first
one,
the
degree
of
harmonization,
so
these
are
systems
where
there
is
no
youth
or
senior
or
low-income
fare.
It's
I'm,
assuming,
though
we
didn't
ask
for
about
children's
fares,
because
ours
is
free,
they
probably
have
a
children's
fare
and
that's
about
it
through.
L
F
F
L
Through
the
church,
so
in
terms
of
fair
integration,
so
the
implementation
of
the
TTC
goko
fair,
would
really
be
the
first
step
in
fair
integration
and
that's
where
there's
a
dollar-fifty
discount
on
the
second
fair
either
when
you
first
hop
is
on
go
and
your
seconds
on
TTC
or
vice
versa.
So
that
would
be
the
first
step
in
fair
integration.
F
Strikes
me
is
that
if
you
were
looking
at
someone
who
is
a
daily
commuter
where
you
would
want
there
to
be
an
advantage
to
buying
Monthly
Pass,
despite
the
fact
that
we
don't
appear
to
be
the
highest
fare
on
a
cash
basis,
we
now
have
the
highest
cost
Monthly
Pass.
And
so,
if
you
were
a
regional
commuter
and
you
were
getting
a
Monthly
Pass
and
you
had
to
layer,
go
on
top
of
that,
we're
affordable
on
a
cash
basis.
F
But
as
soon
as
you
become
a
regular
commuter
and
try
to
get
a
pass
for
convenience
sake,
we
we
jump
such
that
our
monthly
pass
appears
now
to
be
out
of
sync
with
our
cash
system.
Is
that
something
that
we
should
expect
to
see?
Having
prepared
the
brief
you
know,
should
we
expect
to
see
TTC
staff
bring
you
something
to
Commission
to
to
address
that.
L
Through
the
church,
so
what
was
actually
already
in
development
that
is
expected
to
come
to
the
Commission
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
2019
is
a
fare
policy
review
right
and
it's
a
it's
a
five
year
view
on
all
of
our
fare
policies
and
and
what
you're
seeing
in
this
table,
along
with
other
other
initiatives,
other
concessions
will
be
considered
and
brought
forward
to
the
Commission
for
their
consideration.
Okay,.
F
C
So
three,
mr.
chair
briefly
note
number
fifty
again
directed
to
the
TTC
was
to
provide
information
on
recent
improvements
to
capacity
on
the
network.
So
that
briefing
note
highlights
the
key
changes
that
have
been
made
since
the
2015.
It
includes
a
table
that
summarizes
it
quite
well,
but
it
includes
reduced
crowding
on
buses,
streetcars
in
Subway's
reduce
travel
times
by
expanding
enhancing
the
Express
bus
network
and
increasing
the
availability
transit
by
operating
most
routes.
Seven
days,
expanding
the
overnight
network
and
starting
subway
service
earlier
on
Sundays.
C
Bottom
of
page
14
is
a
request
of
the
Toronto
Police
Service
board
and
the
chief
of
trauma
pleased
to
provide
a
budget
briefing
note
on
the
total
new
hires
plan
for
2019
the
Toronto
Police
Service.
So
briefing
note
number
41
highlights
that
there
is
a
significant
hiring
plan
for
2019
to
address
historical
declining
level
of
deployed
uniformed
officers
due
to
higher
than
expected
separations
through
18
and
19,
as
well
as
hiring
for
increased
civilian
eyes
positions
that
have
happened
through
their
transformation
efforts.
So
on
page
19,
it's
summer,
I
sort
of
page
15.
C
Yeah
believe
it's,
the
last
briefing
note
request.
It's
bottom
of
page
15
briefly,
note
number
40
of
requested
of
the
trona
and
region
Conservation
Authority,
to
outline
the
cost
of
addressing
the
funding
imbalance
between
these
pallies
over
three
year
period.
So
that
has
been
brought
forward
for
your
information
so
giving
the
imbalance
amongst
its
partner
municipalities.
A
C
The
first
is
a
request
of
the
general
manager
of
economic
development
culture
to
report
back
as
part
of
the
2020
budget
process
on
metrics
and
tools
that
can
be
used
to
measure
the
impact
of
reducing
vacant
storefronts
on
reducing
vacant
Stork
friends
with
the
elimination
of
the
vacant
commercial
industrial
tax
rebate
program.
Second,
one
is
of
parks,
forestry
and
Recreation
report
back
with,
together
with
the
general
manager,
Toronto
water
in
the
chief
planner
as
part
of
the
20
budget
process
on
budget
allocated
for
implementation
of
Toronto's
ravine
strategy.
C
Third,
one
is
a
request
of
the
Executive
Director
Social
Development
Finance,
and
an
administration
to
consider
the
following
in
the
poverty
reduction
strategy.
2.0
they're
listed
here
bottom
of
page
17,
moving
to
page
18,
there's
a
motion
being
placed
for
requesting
the
chief
planner
executive
director
of
City
Planning
again
to
report
prior
to
the
20
budget
process
on
the
amount
of
section
37
funds
secured
for
affordable
housing
and
affordable
housing
initiative
citywide
for
transportation
services.
C
C
What
requests
have
been
made
of
the
province
of
the
feds
for
operating
and
capital
investments
and
then
the
current
and
projected
funds
available
from
other
levels
of
government
in
the
ten-year
capital
budget,
the
time
periods
for
which
funding
is
available
and
so
on.
So
those
are
all
the
motions
that
are
placed
before
the
committee
for
consideration
today.
Mr.
chair.
A
C
This
is
a
report
in
response
to
a
motion
in
2018
budget
process
to
report
back
on
the
next
phase
of
arts
and
culture
funding
the
bottom
of
page
21
again
as
a
report
from
the
general
manager
of
economic
development
entitled
strengthening,
Toronto's
ability
to
attract
and
host
major
events
through
the
Toronto
significant
events,
investment
program.
Turning
to
page
22,
it
lays
out
the
recommendations
which
is
essentially
to
award
$750,000
in
2019
to
various
successful
recipients
of
this
investment
program.
C
C
So
edits
meeting
in
January,
January
30th
31st,
the
council
adopted
the
housing
now
initiative
report.
It
referred
certain
motions
to
the
budget
committee
so
that
we
could
amend
the
budget
to
draw
to
take
the
initial
draw
of
the
20
million
from
the
city
building
reserve
to
fund
this
initiative
over
the
next
few
years.
Of
that,
a
million
dollars
would
be
referred
would
be
used
to
develop
a
non-profit
housing
capacity
fund
to
support
the
participation
of
nonprofit
organizations
in
this
initiative
and
that
a
budget
be
established
of
seven
million
dollars.
C
Growth
funded
from
this
to
look
at
adding
to
creating
a
housing,
Secretariat
and
adding
staff,
as
outlined
on
page
24.
I
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
top
of
page
25,
because
there
was
a
recommendation
that
director
the
city
manager
to
review
the
staffing
that
was
I
did
that's
identified
in
these
other
recommendations
on
whether
and
it
can
be
filled
using
existing
staff.
There
is
a
report
I
believe
that's
before
you
and
I.
C
There's
a
report
before
you
from
the
city
clerk
entitled
rates
of
remuneration
for
public
members
of
city
tribunals.
This
is
a
new
report.
It's
asking
that
you
adopt
the
remuneration
rates
for
various
adjudicative
boards,
effective
April,
1st
2019.
This
is
to
ensure
that
there
is
consistency
across
all
the
tribunals
because
to
date
they
have
differential
rates.
These
have
been
identified
here,
recommendations
1,
a
and
B.
C
C
Those
are
some
significant
reports
we
get
to
the
bottom
of
page.
26
I
won't
go
through
them
all,
but
just
to
summarize
that
you
have
transmittals
from
each
of
the
four
accountability
officers
with
their
request
and
to
note
that
in
the
Auditor
General's
Office,
the
request
there
is
for
2.1
percent
increase
and
to
make
to
convert
for
temporary
positions
to
permanent,
bringing
her
permanent
complement
to
36
positions
for
the
office
of
the
integrity.
C
The
last
time
we
discussed
this,
we
identified
that
there
are
two
requests
up:
a
supplementary
request
when
the
Board
of
Health
for
new
funding,
one
is
$55,000
gross
$14,000
net
to
support
project
management
for
creating
health
plus
and
another
$30,000
grossed
and
$8,000
net
for
the
Toronto
Food
Policy
Council.
Neither
of
these
are
included
in
the
staff
recommended
operating
budget
as
it
relates
to
the
regular
submission
that
was
before
staff
and
then
that's
part
of
that's
before
you.
The
staff
recommended
budget
before
the
committee
includes
all
the
recommended
noon.
C
C
Turning
to
page
31,
we
have
a
transmittal
from
the
create
tio
board
with
their
request.
We
identified
there
as
well
that
we
had
some
different
differentials
regarding
some
of
the
new
requests
for
staff
funding
prorated.
Some
of
the
the
differences
in
when
those
positions
start
and
we'll
do
not
include
three
that
have
been
requested
by
the
board,
two
of
which
we
will
be
dealing
with
in
year,
which
is
for
rail
deck
and
parking
authority,
and
the
other
has
not
been
included
for
the
TTC.
C
C
What's
before
you,
they
had
a
subsequent
request
for
149
thousand
dollars
to
add
one
and
a
half
new
positions
reclassify
the
existing
position
to
better
support
the
board's
governance
role
and
meet
the
demands
based
on
timing.
That
did
not
make
our
staff
recommended
budget.
The
Toronto
Police
Service
budget
itself
is
consistent
with
what's
being
recommended
by
the
board,
so
the
staff
recommended
budget
and
the
board
budget
is
the
same
3%
increase
and
similarly
for
the
parking
enforcement
unit.
C
Page
34
is
a
most
member
motion
that
was
adopted
by
council
regarding
the
tommy
Thompson
Park
shuttle
service,
so
that
was
forwarded
for
consideration
for
$130,000
to
start
that
shuttle
service,
and
at
this
point
we
had
identified
that
we
have
not
included
that
in
the
staff
recommended
operating
budget.
Park
has
not
entirely
been
assumed,
as
in
TRC
ownership
and
such
prematured.
For
such
a
service.
There
is
a
report
before
you
on
Toronto's,
participatory
budgeting
pilot
evaluation
from
the
city
manager,
page
34.
C
Bottom
of
page
35
are
just
identifying
the
information
we
see
from
the
public
presentations
that
the
budget
committee
members
had
undertaken
on
february,
7th
and
11th,
and
mr.
chair.
We
now
come
down
to
the
final
set
of
motions,
which
is
to
move
the
staff
recommendations
and
the
budget
notes
for
all
tax,
supported
programs
and
agencies.
So
what
those
recommendations
bring
forward?
Are
the
staff
recommended
budgets
any
adjustments
made
here.
The
committee
then,
would
have
those
recommendations
approved
as
amended
by
whatever
adjustments
are
made.
C
F
Thank
you,
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
the
page
with
the
report
on
participatory
budgeting
and
the
the
city
pilot.
It's
it's
I
know
it's
it's
semantics,
but
it
it
isn't.
What
it
is
is
that,
within
the
budget,
finance
staff
have
recommended
against
the
evaluation
reports,
sort
of
leaves
it
open
to
councillors.
It
gives
the
findings
and
says
in
order
to
do
it.
Financial
outlay
would
be
made,
but
they're,
not
hard-,
saying
it's
not
recommended
they
really
left
it
up
to
Council.
Like
my
question,
is:
is
there
any?
F
Is
there
any
opportunity
to
consider
this
report
in
any
other
venue
than
this,
because
it
it
never
was
before
council
in
a
place
where
the
pub
the
participants
over
the
past
three
years
could
to
come
forward
and
depute
on
that
and
nothing
else?
It's
only
been
before
us
in
the
context
of
the
budget.
As
far
as
I
know,.
C
F
Oh
no
I'm
talking
about
the
evaluation
report.
The
evaluation
report
has
never
been
anywhere
but
buried
in
these
pages.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there
was
ever
a
plan
or
could
there
be
a
plan
that
it
go
to
a
standing
committee
where
a
deputed
ie
that
hundreds
of
participants
over
three
years
would
have
a
place
where
they
could
go
and
make
a
deputation.
C
F
That
was
my
next
question
and
I
I,
don't
know
if
it's
to
the
CFO
to
the
chair
or
to
the
clerk.
This
never
got
to
see
really
the
light
and
and
many
of
the
project
champions
and
voters
and
participants
in
this
are
kind
of
steamed
about
it.
So
the
question
is:
could
it
be
referred
forward
to
a
regular
business
meeting
of
budget?
F
Could
it
be
referred
to
some
venue
where
they
were
allowed
to
call
a
clerk
and
register
to
make
a
deputation
and
talk
about
how
it
changed
their
lives
or
whatever
they
want
to
talk
about?
Could
that
could
that
happen
as
a
result
of
its
showing
up
on
this
wrap-up
page?
Could
it
be
lifted
from
the
wrap-up
sent
on
motion.
E
F
But
I'm
asking
about
the
city
three-year
pilot
on
participatory
budgeting,
which
is
not
that
that's
that's
a
better
form
of
consultation
on
our
budget,
and
that
would
be
great
but
I'm
wondering
if
the
evaluation
report
on
P
be
a
pilot
conducted
over
three
years
in
the
city.
Manager's
office
could
go
somewhere
where
the
people
who
participated
in
it
had
a
chance
to
communicate
to
Council
how
they
felt
about
it.
That
would
be
a
way
of
enhancing
our
manager.
N
Who
speak
to
that
I?
Can't
sir?
The
chair
I,
don't
really
see
any
problem
with
what
you're
recommending
I
think
it.
It
is
one
of
the
tools
that
we
use
in
a
democratic
process
for
people
to
engage
directly
in
a
budget,
so
maybe
by
motion
we
could
be.
This
could
be
referred
back
so
that
it
does
avail
people
to
make
comment
on
it
and.
F
F
N
N
H
F
On
that
or
wrong
talking
about
the
evaluation
report,
I'm
talking
about
this
work,
well,
you're,
not
talking
about
the
budget.
Sorry
I,
maybe
I,
wasn't
clear.
My
questioning,
because
I
was
sort
of
speaking
in
shorthand
to
the
staff.
We
were
familiar
with
it
I'm
talking
about
the
very
lengthy
evaluation
report
that
was
completed
by
staff
at
the
end
of
the
three-year
pilot,
the
people
in
the
ni,
a
committees
in
your
warden
and
the
whole
ward.
In
my
case,
they
never
discussed
the
evaluation
report
because
they
never
got
the
chance
where.
H
N
Can
sir,
the
chair
I
understood
the
question
to
be
related
to
the
evaluation
that
staff
had
undertaken
and
that
whether
or
not
that
evaluation
could
be
presented
at
a
committee
that
would
afford
people
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
maybe
any
further
extension
of
this
kind
of
program.
So
I
mean
it?
Does
that
I
think
that
was
the
intent
that
the
councillor
was
raising?
So
it's
it's
just
specific
to
that.
G
You
mr.
chair
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
what's
happening.
It
sounds
like
there's
two
separate
reports
here
so
that
one
is
reporting
back
on,
what's
been
done
on
the
participatory
pilot
and
the
other
is
a
review
of
how
the
budget
is
being
done
in
looking
at
opportunities
for
modernization
and
moving
forward.
So
I
am
assuming
that
the
information
from
the
participatory
is
feeding
also
into
that
budget.
Modernization,
recommendations
and
next
steps
in
some
way.
So.
G
N
If
I
can,
through
the
chair,
think
in
coming
back
later
this
year
on
a
on
a
revised
best
practice,
driven
approach
to
budgeting,
that
we
would
look
at
if
this
would
make
sense
it.
We
would
look
at
something
like
that,
along
with
a
lot
of
other
things
when
we
report
back.
But
again,
this
I
mean
this
focus
that
we
have
from.
The
counsellor
is
just
on
a
piece
of
work
that
was
done
by
staff
and
it
being
aired
at
a
committee
that
would
afford
people
a
chance
to
comment
on
it
on.
N
I
mean
it
threw
the
chair,
I
mean
it
could
very
well
do
that.
Okay,
but
again
I
do
as
I
think
you've
said,
I
see
them
as
two
very
distinct
things.
One
is
related
to
work
that
we've
already
done,
and
we
report
that's
one
and
then
the
second
one
about
what
our
future
budgeting
process.
This
may
be,
learnings
that
we
do
incorporate
into
that
broader
report.
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
right
now,
I'm,
not
saying
it's
going
to
happen.
N
G
N
And
and
and
again
through
the
chair,
we're
doing
that
right
across
Canada.
You
know
we're
getting
some
support
from
it
from
not
just
other
municipalities,
but
people
in
the
business
that
look
at
budgeting.
That's
being
done
here
in
Canada
in
North
America,
so
we're
taking
all
the
best
practices
and
pulling
them
together
in
a
report
and.
N
N
A
You
any
other
questions
on
those
reports
we're
going
which
at
the
time
they
would
now
I'm
just
gonna-
do
Oh
sorry
counselor
Leighton
yeah.
So
what
we'll
do
now
is
we
have
in
yours?
Passports
is
one
last
opportunity
for
overall
questions
with
regard
to
operating
and
capital
and
then
we'll
get
into
speeches
and
moving
motions
and
just
want
to
let
everybody
know
that
Justin
speak
with
the
clerk.
Well,
we
will
have
to
take
a
bit
of
a
recess
after
we
do
our
speeches
and
present
our
motions
just
so
we
can
does
quite
a
few.
A
B
B
N
Certainly,
staff
to
staff
we
can
speak
to.
We've
talked
to
I've
spoken
with
about
this
idea
of
a
shortfall
with
a
Deputy
Minister,
but
I
know,
staff
I
believe
are
meeting
later
this
week
with
other
with
their
federal
counterparts,
so
staff
to
staff
I
know
there's
engagement
going
on
I
understand.
The
mayor
has
raised
this
matter
directly
with
the
I
believe
with
the
Prime
Minister.
So,
but
to
your
to
your
specific
question,
have
we
got
any
any
commitment
to
the
45
million?
Not
yet
what.
N
She's
passing
the
buck
through
the
chair,
the
I
mean
again
I
think
you
know
it
certainly
makes
lots
of
sense
to
put
the
pressure
on
the
federal
government
to
come
through
and
I.
Think
you
understand
that
I
mean.
If
push
comes
to
shove.
We
may
have
to
look
at
reserves
as
a
method
by
which
we
could
offset
this
until
such
time
as
the
federal
government
comes
through
with
the
money
that
we
we
believe,
they
rightfully
should
be
paying
the
City
of
Toronto.
B
N
Through
the
chair,
I
think,
that's
that's
a
fair
assessment.
I!
Don't
you
know
these
one-off
attempts
to
address?
What
is
you
know?
A
federal
responsibility
is
not
the
way
generally,
you
want
to
do
it,
but
again
I
mean,
as
we've
we've
indicated
to
you
that
this
this
the
spike
that
we've
seen
in
in
refugee
service
needs
is
something
that
doesn't
appear
to
be
going
away
and
and
hence
the
reason
why
we
believe
the
federal
government
has
a
direct
responsibility.
B
N
I
think,
as
I
said
earlier,
the
we
are
looking
at
vacancies,
certainly
vacancies
that
have
not
been
addressed
from
a
12-month
and
Beyond
perspective
as
one
some
restructuring
that
we
believe
needs
to
happen
or
to
better
deliver
services.
As
to
that,
we
believe
will
generate
some
savings
opportunities.
N
B
I'm
gonna
have
a
couple
questions
for
the
accountability
officers,
probably
all
three,
if
they're,
if,
if
they're
here
and
then
I've
got
actually
a
couple
specific
questions
around
municipal
licensing
and
standards
and
what's
the
volume
of
calls
we've
got
for
sidewalk
for
for
first
ice
on
sidewalks
in
the
last
three
storms
or
two
storms?
Do
we
have
any
idea?
I
know
three
one
one's
probably
here
two
so.
G
G
B
Just
curious
that
what
what
would
account
for
delays
in
simply
investigating
a
service
call
like
what
what's
the
process
that
we
go
through
for
investigating
them,
because
we're
getting
reports
that
our
residents
are
being
told
it's
weeks
until
they'll
have
someone
out
there
from
when
they're
making
the
reports,
which
doesn't
really
make
much
sense,
and
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
the
number
that's
reflected
in
the
I
I.
Don't
believe.
That's
ever
been
reflected
in
the
service
level.
G
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
certainly
I
can't
think
of
any
service
level.
We
have
in
response
to
a
service
request.
That's
weeks
long,
the
reality
may
be
if
we're
seeing
a
very
large
volume
of
those
calls.
In
addition
to
other
calls
that
will
be
going
to
the
same
staff,
that
certainly
should
not
be
the
messaging
that's
being
shared.
So
I'll
beg
your
indulgence.
Let
us.
B
A
B
If
you'd
like
to
yes,
please,
the
questions
were
about
the
new
and
enhanced
funding,
I
I,
I,
sort
of
understood
what
it
was
for,
I
believe
the
integrity
commissioner.
This
was
about
legal
investigative
work,
correct.
B
E
So
the
reason
that
I'm
asking
for
enhanced
investigative
and
legal
support
is
really
because
of
the
new
jurisdiction
that
the
office
has
under
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
Act
and
the
City
of
Toronto
Act.
So
starting
March
1st
my
office
will
be
responsible
for
providing
comprehensive
advice
under
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
Act
and
receiving
complaints
under
the
municipal
conflict
of
intersect
I
have
a
hundred
and
eighty
days
to
complete
those
investigations.
That's
a
standard
in
my
office
currently
cannot
me
so
I
will
be
failing
to
meet
the
statutory
minimum
requirement
without
additional
resources.
E
Will
mean
that
the
accountability
framework
that
we
have
in
place
in
Toronto
is
failing
to
meet
the
standard
and
it
will
give
citizens
a
will
mean
that
citizens
have
tried
to
deal
with
the
solution
locally
and
failed
to
and
will
have
to
go
to
court
to
to
pursue
the
same
right
that
they
could
have
pursued.
So.
E
The
the
you
know,
a
person
can
make
a
municipal
conflict
of
interest
that
complaint
under
the
new
legislation.
First
to
my
office,
and
if
I
fail
to
complete
it
within
180
days,
then
they
can
go
to
court
to
make
the
same
complaint,
and
so
that
will
be
their
only
remedy.
If
I'm
unable
to
complete
it
within
the
time
frame
and.
E
Another
reason
why
there's
an
enhanced
need
for
legal
and
investigative
services,
because
I
would
have
to
have
enough
money
to
bring
an
application
to
court
in
appropriate
cases.
Right
now,
my
external
legal
budget
is
around
ten
thousand
dollars.
I
exceed
that
budget.
Every
year
I've
been
able
to
manage
through
vacancies
because
I've
had
vacancies
in
the
office,
but
I
will
not
be
able
to
do
the
job
as
envisioned
by
the
statute
without
the
additional
resources.
B
E
Would
so
it
would
be
against
a
member
of
council
and
and
they
it
would
be,
I
think
a
failing
on
the
part
of
the
city
to
have
provided
a
program
that
we're
statutorily
required
to
provide
under
the
amendments
to
the
City
of
Toronto
Act.
Every
every
municipality
in
Ontario
now
has
this
obligation
to
provide
this
right
to
citizens
to
have
an
accessible
way
to
make
complaints
and
not
to
have
to
go
to
court
on
their
own
accord.
E
B
E
B
E
B
That's
true
yeah,
oh,
if
someone
was
to
bring
a
challenge
to
you,
bring
a
challenge,
bring
a
charge
to
plaint
in
a
complaint.
Thank
you
and
then
you
find
the
complaint
was
unwarranted.
You
would
have
done
the
investigative
work.
How
do
you
think
that
report,
or
do
you
think
that
report
would
have
any
weight
at
a
court
challenge
if
the
complainant
were
to
pursue
it
further?
Absolutely.
E
So
threw
the
chair.
Yes,
I
think
that
is
the
overall
point
of
the
new
scheme
is
that
commissioners,
at
a
first
level,
can
do
investigations
and
make
findings
and
if,
if
there's
no,
not
enough
in
from
not
enough
reason
to
go
to
court,
they
won't
go
to
court
and
the
court
would
consider
that
and
I
think
they
would.
And
we
don't
know
for
sure,
but
I
anticipate.
The
court
will
be
deferential
to
the
local
commissioners.
Good
judgment
in
response
to
complaints
and.
E
The
charity
stretch
I,
see
that
perspective,
but
I
think
my
bigger
concern
is
that
the
City
of
Toronto
has
really
been
a
leader
in
the
field
of
ethics
and
integrity,
in
particular
in
integrity
commissioners.
The
City
of
Toronto
was
the
first
city
to
have
one
and
I
think.
If
we
aren't
able
to
meet
these
minimum
standards,
we
will
really
beast
a
step
back.
So.
B
I
was
kind
of
very
quickly
and
I'm.
Sorry,
because
I've
used
my
last
five
minutes,
but
perhaps
councillor
Carroll
can
continue.
This
on
is
what
does
if
we
impact
the
or
remove
delete
the
service
improvement
to
the
other
accountability
officers.
What
does
that
mean
to
your
work
plan
and
that's
my
time,
a.
F
M
You
councillor
Carroll
through
you,
mr.
chair
I,
want
to
remind
council
that
it
made
a
commitment
through
statutory
amendments
in
2016
to
to
allow
for
administrative,
monetary
penalties
to
come
right.
The
power
of
the
lobbyists
registrar.
We
are
working
with
city
staff
as
a
legal
to
develop
an
implementation
plan
to
bring
that
to
fruition.
That's
one
of
the
many
things
we're
trying
to
work
towards
and
are
obviously
in
addition
to
maintaining
the
existing
and
low
that
we
have
in
terms
of
completing
investigations.
M
Our
staff
compliment
has
not
changed
since
2010
there's
two
sections
of
our
office,
one
that
runs
the
registry
and
one
that
does
investigations.
We
don't
have
anyone
allocated
to
do
education
and
outreach.
Both
units
have
been
tasked
with
carrying
this
forward
over
the
in
terms
of
our
registry
unit.
We've
seen
a
robust
growth
over
the
years.
In
the
last
term,
there
was
23,000
lobbying
communications
that
were
registered
on
our
on
our
registry
since
2010,
when
we
had
our
existing
staff
complement,
our
our
registry
transactions
have
gone
up
by
about
400
percent.
M
We
have
this
same
staff,
complement
of
three
registry
advisors,
so
that
group,
in
addition
to
our
investigative
view
group
that
has
been
working
towards
improving
the
legislation
and
making
amendments
over
the
years
and
trying
to
work
towards
bringing
to
fruition
what
you
want
in
the
mandate
in
terms
of
expanding
our
powers
to
bring
penalties
and
hence
put
the
teeth
behind
the
transparency
requirements
that
you've
legislated
carrying
that,
in
addition
to
the
education
and
outreach,
that's
required.
In
order
to
do
the
easiest.
M
Most
cost-effective
thing
is
which,
which
is
to
bring
the
stakeholder
group
voluntarily
to
the
table
and
register
and
not
have
any
additional
investigations.
It
all
has
to
work
together.
In
order
for
that
to
happen
as
a
group
as
a
unit
as
an
effective
regulatory
model,
we
do
need
to
allow
the
office
to
grow
as
the
transactions
have
grown
over
the
years
and
hence
the
addition
of
an
additional
staff
member
to
support
the
registry
and
the
addition
of
an
additional
staff.
M
F
M
Our
staff
have
been
we're
small,
but
mighty
we
and
mean
I
would
say
that
it's
always
been
something
that
we
have
done.
We've
just
turned
it
up
a
few
notches.
Over
the
years
using
you
know,
we've
worked
with
what
we've
had
yeah
I
want
to
point
out
that
you
know
I
I
think
the
work
that
we've
done
is
shown
in
terms
of
the
growth
on
the
registry
and
it's.
E
You,
mr.
chair,
the
number
of
complaints
to
my
office
has
gone
up
dramatically
and
there
has
been
no
corresponding
increase
or
any
increase,
in
fact
in
staffing.
So
in
fact,
the
enhancement
that
that
I'm
requesting
is
a
modest
increase
of
one
hundred
and
sixty
eight
thousand
dollars
to
hire
two
more
staff
to
help
us
to
respond
to
these
increased
number
and
complexity
of
complaints.
E
If
we
do
not
receive
more
staff
through
such
an
enhancement,
it
will
mean
that
our
service
standards
will
need
to
be
re-evaluated
in
terms
of
how
quickly
and
effectively
we
can
respond
to
the
public's
complaints.
It
will
also
mean
that
our
ability
to
do
cases
on
our
own
motion
and
to
do
large-scale
investigations
will
be
directly
compromised
because
the
staff
will
just
be
keeping
up
with
complaints
as
they
come
right.
E
E
Our
ability
to
do
projects
like
that
will
be
directly
compromised
and,
finally,
I
would
just
say
we
are
also
taking
a
very
constructive
approach
with
trying
to
work
with
city
staff
constructively
before
complaints
arise
and
we
offer
consultations
and
we
meet
with
city
staff
when
they're
devising
new
systems
or
processes
to
help
them
ensure
that
they
are
administrative
leaf
air.
That
constructive,
proactive
part
of
our
role
is
extremely
important
to
me,
and
it
too
will
directly
suffer
if
we
just
don't
get
a
couple
of
more
bodies.
A
A
Clerks
have
notified
me.
There's
a
lot
of
emotions
that
that
have
are
in
the
process
of
coming
in
and
trying
to
get
organized.
They
did
say
they
need
about
a
half
hour
or
whatever
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
we
actually
break
a
little
bit
early
for
lunch
and
just
do
lunch
now
and
meet
in
an
hour
all
right,
so
we'll
be
come
back
for
one
o'clock
again.
They
do
need
some
time,
but
we
might
as
well
just
incorporate
our
lunch
with
that,
so
we're
gonna
recess
now
till
1:00
p.m.
so
again,
1:00
p.m.
not
1:30.