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From YouTube: Budget Committee - November 23, 2020
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Budget Committee, meeting 19, November 23, 2020
Agenda and background materials:
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A
Good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
councillor
gary
crawford
and
I
am
the
chair
of
the
budget
committee.
The
clerk
has
confirmed
that
we
have
quorum
and
I'd
like
to
call
the
meeting
19
to
order
and
welcome
everyone
here
to.
I
think
the
first
day
of
lockdown
number
two
and
I'm
hoping
everybody's
going
to
be
incredibly
safe
and
we'll
get
through
this
second
lockdown
safely
over
the
next
number
of
weeks.
A
Today's
meeting
is
being
held
by
video
conference
city
of
staff
are
also
connecting
to
the
meeting
by
video
conference.
As
city
hall
remains
closed,
the
public
will
continue
to
participate
electronically
and
can
watch
the
meeting
streaming
live
on
youtube
at
youtube.com
toronto
city
council
live
the
clerk
staff
have
connected
all
registered
speakers
to
the
meeting
by
audio.
The
list
of
speakers
can
be
viewed
online
by
visiting
budget
committee's
page
at
toronto,
dot,
ca,
council
and
clicking
the
speakers
box
for
two
days
meeting.
A
I
ask
for
everyone's
patience
if
we
experience
any
delays
or
technical
problems
during
the
meeting
members.
This
is
a
paperless
meeting.
The
city
clerk
has
provided
all
agenda
materials
via
cmp,
which
is
the
clerk's
meeting
portal
clerk's.
It
staff
will
be
available
to
you
remotely
if
you
need
any
help
with
any
of
your
devices.
A
I'd
also
like
to
remind
staff
to
keep
their
mics
muted
and
the
videos
turned
off
unless
you
need
to
answer
any
questions
or
speak
to
the
committee.
This
will
make
it
easier
for
me
as
chair
and
for
those
watching
you
on
youtube
to
observe
members
as
they
participate
in
the
debate
and
the
vote
items
members.
Please
keep
your
mic
muted.
A
When
voting
on
an
item
or
a
motion,
I
ask
that
members
ensure
that
they
keep
the
video
on
and
to
raise
their
hand
to
indicate
their
vote
members.
I
want
to
remind
you
that
you
must
still
submit
and
approve
your
motions
by
email
staff
are
available
at
buc
toronto.ca
to
help
you
with
your
motions.
If
there's
any
briefing
note
requests,
we
generally
don't
have
them
at
this
meeting.
A
A
A
Although
we
are
in
different
locations
and
meeting
remotely
today.
The
committee
would
like
to
acknowledge
that
the
land
we
are
meeting
on
is
the
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
mississaugas
of
the
credit,
the
anashua,
the
chippewa
the
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
first
nations
inuit
and
metis
peoples.
A
We
also
acknowledge
that
toronto
is
covered
by
treaty
13
with
the
mississaugas
of
the
credit.
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest
under
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
act?
If
you
do
have
an
interest,
please
raise
your
hand
and
unmute
your
mic,
seeing
none.
We
will
proceed.
First
of
all,
can
I
have
a
motion
to
confirm
the
minutes
of
our
regular
meeting
on
october,
8th
2020,
as
well
as
the
minutes
of
our
special
meeting
to
the
launch
of
the
rate
supported
budgets
on
november
6..
Councillor
bradford
will
move
that
on
favor
oppose
that's
carried
members.
A
We
have
10
items
on
the
agenda
for
today's
meeting
and
we'll
also
have
members
of
the
public
who
are
registered
to
speak
today.
I
believe
on
two
of
the
items
so
we'll
do
a
rundown
of
the
agenda
and
then
we'll
go
back
to
any
items
that
are
held
or
deputations
we'll
start
with
bu
19.1,
the
2021
rate
supported
budget
2021
waste
and
water
wastewater
and
water
consumption
rates
and
service
fees.
A
Bu
20.21
rate
supported
budget,
solid
waste
management
services
and
recommended
20
to
20
20
21,
solid
waste
rates
and
fees.
There
is
a
speaker
registered
to
that,
so
I
will
hold
that
in
my
name:
bu
19.3
2021
rate
supported
budgets,
toronto
parking
authority.
There
is
a
registered
speaker
and
I
will
hold
that
in
my
name:
bu
19.4
municipal
land
transfer,
tax
rebate
for
first-time
home
buyers.
A
Okay,
bu
19.5
project
project,
cost
adjustments
and
deferrals
accelerations
to
the
parks,
forestry
and
recreation
2020
capital
budget
in
2021
to
29
capital
plan.
There
are
no
deputations
there's
a
recommendation
before
us.
Would
anybody
like
to
hold
this
counselor
mckelvey?
Did
you
want
to
move
this.
A
A
A
C
A
C
A
C
A
A
Okay,
that
is,
I
believe,
it
okay.
So
why
don't
we
work
our
way
back
to
the
beginning?
We
do
have
two
items
with
deputations:
do
we
want
to
move
with
the
deputations?
First?
Is
it
okay?
If
we
go
to
the
the
two
items
that
have
deputations
first
and
then
we'll
go
back
and
finish,
the
agenda
just
want
to
make
sure
we
get
the
deputies
in
as
quickly
as
we
can
so
there's
two
items
19.2
and
19.3
that
have
deputation.
A
E
Hello-
okay,
great.
Thank
you
sorry,
good
morning,
counselors
and
staff.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
me
this
morning.
My
name
is
emily
alfred,
I'm
the
waste
campaigner
at
the
toronto
environmental
alliance
or
t
we
have
more
than
60
000
supporters
across
toronto,
who
want
to
build
a
greener
city
for
all.
We
believe
that
solid
waste
management
is
an
important
environmental
service
of
the
city,
achieving
our
waste
reduction
targets
and
creating
a
circular
economy
in
toronto
that
sees
resources,
conserved
and
cycled
into
new
materials
will
not
only
cut
costs
but
achieve
important
community
goals.
E
E
Today,
I'm
here
to
urge
this
committee
to
increase
and
enhance
the
waste
education
budget
for
toronto.
Waste
customers
not
reduce
it.
The
proposed
2021
budget
includes
eliminating
printed
calendars.
While
this
may
seem
like
a
quick
solution
that
saves
money
and
eliminates
paper
use,
we
believe
it
will
actually
result
in
higher
waste
costs
and
more
contamination
of
waste
streams.
E
E
Education
is
important
because
recycling
and
packaging
is
frankly,
quite
confusing
a
t.
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
to
members
of
the
public
and
the
media
about
waste.
We
also
talk
to
residents
and
staff
in
multi-residential
buildings
across
the
city.
We
hear
that
the
average
person
faces
a
lot
of
conflicting
messages
about
how
to
sort
waste.
One
reason
is
that
every
municipality
has
different
recycling
rules
and
within
toronto,
away
from
home,
at
a
shopping
mall
office
or
restaurant,
or
in
the
one-third
of
apartments
and
condo
buildings
that
have
private
waste
collection.
E
Recycling
rules
are
different.
This
is
very
confusing
to
the
average
person
and
it
contributes
to
contamination
and
mistakes
and
sorting
printed
signs
and
waste
calendars
are
valuable.
Not
everyone
has
access
to
computers
and
high-speed
internet
to
search
for
waste
information.
Some
people
don't
have
computers
at
home
and
use
the
internet
at
the
library
or
in
public
spaces,
or
they
may
have
one
shared
computer
in
their
household.
That's
very
busy.
E
E
We've
also
seen
that
official
city
of
toronto
branded
printed
resources
are
very
important
to
counteract
confusing
information
put
out
by
companies
or
on
the
internet,
for
example,
well-meaning,
but
inaccurate,
facebook,
posts
or
websites
that
tell
people
how
to
recycle
or
misleading
product
labels.
When
companies
claim
that
their
products
are
flushable
or
compostable
or
recyclable,
when
in
fact
that
isn't
the
case
in
toronto,
behavioral
science
shows
that
even
the
smallest
barriers
or
extra
steps
can
impact
behavior
instead
of
checking
a
calendar
or
poster.
E
For
the
last
three
years,
t
has
been
working
with
and
leading
a
joint
research
project
with
researchers
at
u
of
t
on
high-rise
communities
in
toronto,
in
our
resident
surveys
and
observations,
we've
seen
that
high-performing
buildings
made
extensive
use
of
printed
resources,
such
as
signs
calendars
and
other
stickers
and
labels
provided
by
the
city.
We
surveyed
residents
in
about
a
dozen
buildings
and
asked
them
to
indicate
the
places
they
go
to
get
information,
waste
calendars
and
signs
were
the
top
two
sources
of
information
for
those
residents.
E
The
city
website
was
the
third
most
selected
resource,
but
when
you
look
at
the
age
groups,
you
can
see
differences
in
how
households
find
information
for
those
over
70.
The
use
of
the
website
drops
to
just
15
of
respondents
and
printed
resources
increases
younger
demographics
and
those
under
30
reported
that
they
looked
to
calendars
and
signs,
but
were
more
likely
to
go
online
for
information.
However,
this
group
was
more
likely
to
search
on
the
internet,
not
the
city
website,
when
they
found
information
showing
that
they
would
probably
get
inaccurate
details.
E
E
A
E
Yeah
sure,
so
that's
my
main
point.
I
also
just
wanted
to
say
that
in
other
ways,
for
considering
how
important
waste
and
reducing
waste
is
towards
moving
toronto
towards
zero
waste
and
how
helpful
that
will
be
to
creating
a
circular
economy
in
a
low-carbon
economy,
we
urge
toronto
council
to
include
other
metrics
to
express
and
measure
solid
waste
success
aside
from
the
waste
diversion
rate,
which
is
limited
in
terms
of
what
it
tells
the
public.
E
So
we
encourage
you
to
look
at
some
of
the
annual
reporting
metrics
that
were
approved
by
council
in
the
long-term
waste
strategy
in
2016
and
that
included
things
such
as
garbage
per
capita
organics
per
capita
and
percentage
change
in
those
amounts,
and
then
also
the
percentage
of
recyclable
material
and
organic
waste.
That's
ending
up
in
the
garbage.
These
numbers
give
a
better
picture
of
how
well
the
city
is
doing,
on
reducing
waste
and
on
sorting
waste.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
emily.
Do
we
have
any
questions
with
this
deputy
great.
Thank
you
very
much
emily.
I
appreciate
your
time
with
us
members,
there's
no
other
deputations
on
this,
so
I'm
going
to
suggest
if
we
could
maybe
go
to
we'll
just
jump
around
a
little
bit.
If
that's
okay,
we'll
go
to
we'll
we'll
continue
on
this
item
and
go
to
questions
of
staff,
if
that
works
with
everybody
and
then
we'll
go,
but
we'll
do
the
deputation
parts
and
then
we'll
go
back
to
19.1.
C
Go
ahead,
yes,
I
I
have
some
questions
of
my
own,
but
I'll
start
with
questions
regarding
the
the
deputies
comments.
First,
I'm
wondering
what
research
was
done
in
in
the
process
of
of
determining
that
we
could.
We
could
go
online
with
the
waste
calendar,
with
some
research
done
about
how
many
hits
we've
been
getting
since,
since
putting
that
recycling
tool
etc,
and
was
any
market
research
done
so
that
we
know
how
the
what
the
impact
would
be
on
seniors
and
such.
F
So
through
you,
mr
chair
to
the
counselor,
there
was
extensive
work
done
in
terms
of
overall
outcomes
of
the
program
and
the
the
overall
intensity
of
our
outcomes
is
to
increase
the
amount
of
material
moving
into
the
proper
streams
and
from
that
outcome.
We
need
to
look
at
the
allocation
of
funding
to
to
get
to
that
outcome,
and
it's
not
necessarily
more
printed
material
in
the
marketplace.
F
So
was
there
a
specific
research
done
on
individual
demographics
on
on
what
use?
What
tools
the
best?
There
has
been
some
research
in
terms
of
of
getting
that
information
out
and
different
methods
and
modes
of
that
that
information,
the
calendar
is,
is
a
once
a
year.
Production
that's
static
and
what
we
believe
looking
at
increasing
the
outcomes
of
moving
waste
into
the
proper
streams,
is
that
an
online
iterative
portal,
with
that
information
being
accessible
in
multiple
languages
at
any
point
in
time,
will
assist
residents
in
diverting
more
material
to
the
proper
streams.
F
The
other
piece
that
we
need
to
make
certain
is
that
we
still
will
have
the
outreach
and
and
those
components
in
place,
actually
we're
looking
to
bolster
the
those
deliverables
and
services
we
we've
created
a
a
new
group
within
solid
waste.
That's
specifically
focused
on
stakeholder
outreach
and
communication.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
information
to
push
out.
C
But
there
isn't
there
isn't
really
a
a
lot
of
detail
beyond
the
environment
day
change
which
looks
like
it's
only
about
154
000
in
savings.
So
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
detail
a
little
bit
further,
the
the
environment
day
change
is
it
environment
day
plus
calendar
plus
some
other
things?
Are
there?
Are
there
staff
still
out
on
emergency
leave?
What's
the
full
detail
on
the
savings.
F
So
the
savings
again
are
generated
through
some
of
the
the
voluntary
separation
programs
that
have
been
moved
forward
by
the
city.
Also
we're
looking
at
you
know
strategically
evaluating
each
position
a
little
bit
more
scrutinised
when,
when
they're
going
through
the
hiring
process,
in
order
to
ensure
that
we
can
drive
some
savings
from
those
positions
as
well,
all
making
sure
that
our
overall
deliverables
in
terms
of
meeting
our
outcomes
and
collecting
the
material
at
the
curb,
almost
100
percent
of
the
time.
F
So
so
some
of
the
savings
and
just
a
small
portion
of
it,
is
derived
from
looking
at
the
the
the
delivery
of
our
parks,
litter
bin
collection
and
seeing
how
we
can
you
know,
provide
a
higher
level
of
service
for
the
materials
that
are
being
collected
and
balancing
the
the
amount
of
resources
required
to
do
that.
All
with
the
outcome
of
making
sure
that
there's
less
litter
in
our
parks
and
open
spaces
and
making
sure
that
residents
have
the
proper
bins
to
to
sort
as
as
required.
F
So
through
you,
mr
chair,
the
councilor
last
year,
we
anticipated
to
come
in
to
to
council,
with
a
2.7
percent
rate
increase
and
we're
bringing
a
one
and
a
half,
and
we
believe
just
based
on
our
our
ability
to
deliver
the
program.
One
and
a
half
is,
is
sufficient
in
the
long
term
for
what
we're
delivering
the
the
challenge
that
we
have
is
even
with
before
covid.
We
we
had
that
big
question
mark
of
when
the
province
would
be
implementing
extended
producer
responsibility
and
those
impacts.
F
It's
still
there
today
and
and
right
now,
we're
looking
through
the
draft
regulations.
Right
and
as
of
this
point,
toronto
is
one
of
the
first
municipalities
that
will
be
looking
to
transition
in
and
from
that
transition.
It's
anticipated
that
the
program
will
generate
around
15
to
20
million
dollars
in
in
efficiencies
or
reduction
of
cost
because
of
epr.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
My
question
is
about
the
the
calendar
and
I
realized
you're
not
you're,
proposing
to
not
do
the
printed
calendar,
but
I
still
have
many
seniors
that
don't
have
access
to
computers,
but
you
know
if
there
was
something
that
could
be
printed
by.
You
know
one
of
their
kids
or
by
us
or
dropped
off
or
something
will
there
be,
instead
of
it
just
being
an
app
will
there
be
something
that
will
be
in
an
easily
printable
format
that
could
be
shared
with
them.
G
Just
like
can
you
just
maybe
speak
to
how
much
of
an
investment
is
this
and
then
are
you
making
additional
investments
in
litter
cleanup
in
parks
for
next
year
as
well,
because
I
think
we
saw
through
the
spring
that
that's
something
that's
necessary.
So
can
you
just
maybe
talk
to
the
the
funds
needed
for
those
those
things.
F
Sure
counselor,
so
just
in
terms
of
of
the
staffing
required
in
parks
and
litter
operations
in
our
manual
cleaning
on
the
streets
and
in
roads
and
with
the
astral
bins
we're
around
200
staff.
And
then,
when
we
look
at
the
the
number
of
staff
in
our
parks,
we're
at
60
full-time
equivalent
employees,
which
is
not
necessarily
just
60
bodies,
because
they're
spread
over
in
the
summer,
where
we
might
have
upwards
of
of
80
to
100.
Folks.
Actually
working.
F
The
the
pilot
project
is
to
look
at
the
contamination
rate.
So
so
we've
known
for
a
number
of
years
that
there's
minimal
to
no
recycling
really
taking
place
in
the
parks
and
what
is
a
better
way
to
ensure
that
the
outcome
of
a
clean
park
is
met
and
as
as
we
all
know
there
were.
There
was
a
lot
of
litter
and
a
lot
more
waste
being
generated
in
the
parks
this
summer.
F
So
we
will
look
at
a
number
of
parks,
the
throughout
the
city
and
test
this
out
and
see
if
this
hypothesis
rings
true,
if,
if
there's
an
adjustment
to
the
blue,
bins
adjustment
to
the
green
bins
and
black
bins,
if
there
will
be
less
litter,
as
well
as
as
more
materials
being
captured
in
the
proper
stream.
So
that
that's
where
our
focus
is
on
in
terms
of
of
staffing
and
making
sure
we
have
the
the
folks
and
the
resources
needed
to
to
clean
the
parks.
F
G
And
then,
the
last
related
to
that
you
know
there
were
a
lot
of
residents
that
were
telling
me
like.
Can
we
improve
communications
on
this?
Don't
litter
thing?
You
know
we,
I
think
we
all
remember
growing
up
like
give
a
hoot,
don't
pollute
and
all
the
different
efforts
that
were
put
into
anti-littering,
and
you
know
it
was
certainly
very
common
to
see
those
sorts
of
communications
like.
G
F
Yeah
so
this
year,
we've
worked
fairly
closely
with
with
parks
and
recreation
parks,
forestry
and
recreation
to
put
out
advertisements
and
and
posters
and
communication
material
in
the
parks.
We
anticipate
that
will
happen
again
this
year
as
well,
just
to
ensure
that
residents
put
materials
where
they're
supposed
to
be
disposed
of
properly.
B
F
So
through
you,
mr
chair
to
the
counselor
that
date
right
now
has
actually
been
accelerated
by
almost
close
to
a
decade.
In
the
original
waste
strategy,
we
were
looking
to
have
that
facility
built
in
the
mid
to
late
2030s
and
just
with
the
market
conditions
and
the
growing
demand
for
organics.
We
needed
to
move
that
up.
2028
is
still
you
know,
for
a
facility
of
that
size
and
the
complex
nature,
still
honestly,
a
quite
aggressive
target.
F
I
don't
believe
we'll
be
able
to
move
that
up
substantially
right
now,
we're
in
the
process
of
of
identifying
potential
sites
for
that
facility
within
the
city,
as
well
as
perhaps
regional
partnerships
to
look
at
how
we
can
reduce
the
overall
capital
cost.
But
2028
right
now
is
is
a
is
an
aggressive
target
and
we're
looking
to
to
do
our
best
to
meet
that
target.
B
F
So
so
that
target
date
changed,
I
believe
it
was
was
last
year,
if
not
the
year
before.
So
when,
when
I
was
brought
on
board
with
the
city.
Looking
at
the
long-term
waste
management
strategy,
it
was
slated
to
be
developed
in
in
the
late
2030s
and
and
again
looking
at
our
capacity,
the
market
risk
and
the
growing
demand
for
those
materials.
F
We
will
have
enough
so
right
now
the
city
generates
around
170
000
tons
of
organic
material
and
within
our
current
processing
environment
we
have
130
000
tons,
so
we're
short
around
40
to
50
000
tons
any
given
year.
This
facility
is
looking
to
be
between
a
hundred
and
a
half
a
hundred
thousand
tons
of
capacity,
so
we
will
definitely
have
enough
room
for
now
and
and
a
number
of
years
within
within
our
planning
scope.
F
Through
you,
mr
chair
counselor,
this
year,
the
the
toxic
taxi
is
is
status
quo,
the
the
number
of
vehicles
and
the
fleet
size
and
the
folks
allocated
to
that.
We're
really
making
sure
that
we
have
a
good
balance
in
terms
of
reaching
our
outcomes
of
diverting
that
material,
and
part
of
that
is,
is
making
sure
that
we
have
that
accessibility
through
the
toxic
taxi,
but
also
promoting
our
transfer
stations
and
those
facilities.
B
F
B
H
Okay,
thank
you.
I'm
just
gonna,
just
ask
you
a
question
about
the
calendars
in
the
high-rise
buildings.
So
will
we
be
sending
out
communication
to
property
management
of
all
the
buildings,
so
they
can
post
up
in
on
each
floor
like?
Are
we
going
to
be
doing
that
communicating
at
least
the
tenants
in
these
buildings
will
get
that
information.
F
H
F
Through
mr
chair
to
the
counselor,
no,
we
we
keep
a
fairly
robust
schedule
now.
That
being
said,
there
are
some
areas
within
the
city
that,
just
due
to
the
existing
circumstances,
there's
there's
less
material.
So
so
we
monitor
those
and
and
reallocate
as
required,
but
our
service
standards
are
extremely
high,
especially
in
the
bia
areas
and
and
around
the
parks
and
and
and
open
spaces
to
to
make
sure
that
we
we
we
collect
those
materials
so
that
they
don't
become
litter.
H
So
in
some
bia
areas
that
they're
overflowing
daily
because
people
are
dropping
off
their
house
garbage
next
to
the
bins,
so
we're
going
to
focus
in
those
areas
that
they're
collected
more
often
because
that
that's
a
real
issue
in
my
ward.
So
if
the
bias
are
requesting
for
additional
pickup,
we'll
be
able
to
do
that
in
those
problem,
areas.
F
So
if
there's
any
issues
with
illegal
dumping,
we
will
work
with
mls
to
make
sure
that
that's
addressed
when
it
comes
to
the
the
litter
bins
and
and
the
garbage
bins
in
the
right
of
way.
We
have
a
very
aggressive
schedule
on
collecting
those,
especially
in
the
bias
and
and
we'll
maintain
that.
But
when
it
comes
to
the
you
know,
illegal
dumping
piece,
that's
that's
over
and
above
our
normal
service
standard
when
we
collect
those
materials
but
we'll
make
sure
that
it's
it's
managed
in
the
most
appropriate
way
for
sure.
A
Thank
you,
counselor,
any
other
questions,
seeing
none
actually
just
a
couple,
questions
matt
and
just
more
re
confirming
some
of
the
questions
that
have
been
answered,
so
you
would
have,
under
normal
circumstances,
come
to
us
with
a
two
point.
Seven
percent
increase
that's
correct
this
year.
Okay,
we're
doing
one,
that's
correct!
Okay,
so
you
you
you
you
in
recognizing.
You
know
the
challenges
that
we've
been
facing
this
year.
You
you
brought
the
1.5
now.
A
F
A
C
C
And
so
I'm
a
little
worried
about
that.
But
I
I
know
that
adjustments
have
been
made
and
the
fact
that
some
of
the
adjustments
have
been
made
through
through
contract
negotiations
with
our
various
private
contractors
is
nice
to
see
because,
ordinarily,
we
only
look
within
for
those
savings.
So
if
our
private
contractors
have
been
a
part
of
the
savings,
that's
great,
but
I
want
to
mention
my
frustration
with
the
budget.
Note,
as
I
know
that
the
cfo
is
on
with
us
today
as
well.
C
I'm
I'm
frustrated
by
whatever
are
the
criteria
for
appendix
3.
Looking
at
service
changes,
it
really
doesn't
reflect
the
things
we're
discussing
today.
It
only
talks
about
the
environment
day
change.
It
doesn't,
I
believe,
it's
a
service
change
to
say
we're
no
longer
going
to
produce
the
waste
calendar.
C
You
know
any
kinds
of
changes
that
may
be
taking
place
inside
the
workforce
in
the
transfer
stations
or
wherever.
If
those
are
happening,
I
think
those
should
be
in
service
changes
because
they're
part
of
the
service
of
solid
waste.
The
fact
that
they're
not
there
is
concerning
you-
have
to
hunt
and
peck
through
the
budget
to
find
those,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
criteria
of
that
appendix
in
in
all
of
our
budget
notes.
And
lastly,
mr
chair,
I
wanted
to
comment
that
I
am.
I
am.
C
C
When
I
you
know,
when
you
go
to
other
cities,
you
still
see
massive
visual
education
talking
to
people
about
how
to
reduce
their
waste,
and
we
seem
to
be
moving
away
from
that.
We're
we're
not
going
to
produce
the
calendar
anymore,
we're
going
to
rather
than
educate
people
on
when,
when
you're
walking
into
a
park
with
lots
of
plastic,
water
bottles
and
lots
of
pop
cans,
they
should
be
going
in
the
blue
bin
and
since
they're,
not
we're
just
going
to
reduce
the
number
of
blue
bins.
C
C
B
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair
or
budget
chief.
I
have
a
couple
of
briefing
note.
Requests
to
pass
on
to
to
executive
sure
could
display
them
yeah,
one
that
just
some
background
on
the
evidence
to
support
reducing
the
education
budget
discontinuing
the
use
of
the
waste
calendar,
including
a
distinction
between
demographic
groups
in
toronto
and
sec,
and
then
it
sounds
like
this
may
be
a
really
quick
answer
to
them,
because
they
will
be
producing
something
that
we
could
technically
send
to
people.
B
Executive
community
think
that's
useful,
I
would
add,
like
I'm
also.
I
reluctantly
support
the
reduction
in
the
in
the
fees
this
year,
simply
because
of
the
position
that
I
think
many
households
are
in
as
a
result
of
the
of
the
epidemic,
but
we
can't
lose
sight
of
the
fact
that
I
think
I
think
the
water
budget
is
a
great
example
of
the
commitment
that
was
made
to
first
five
over
five
and
then
three
over
whatever
to
to
being
the
pathway
to
addressing
our
state
of
good
repair.
B
Solid
waste
is
no
different
when
we
don't
want
to
be
10
years
down
the
road
with
it,
with
a
change
in
how
we're
going
to,
in
a
long
term
basis,
address
our
solid
waste,
a
concerns
and
issues,
particularly
with
the
residual
trash.
We
don't
want
to
be
in
a
position
where
we
haven't
funded
those
accounts.
I
certainly
don't
want
to
leave
the
council
of
2030
with
a
giant
bill
and
no
reserves
to
pay
it
off
I'd
rather
I'd
rather
leave
them
in
a
good
place.
B
It's
very
easy
for
us
to
say
no,
let's,
let's
not
fund
that
reserve,
don't
worry
about
it!
It'll,
we'll
we'll
let
the
next
people
pick
up
the
tab.
Let's
not
do
that.
Let's
be
the
responsible
caretakers
that
we
should
be,
and
in
fact
do
things
like
what
we've
heard
and
that's
advance
the
new
organic
processing
facility,
so
that
before
that
2030
council
gets
inaugurated,
they
already
have
dealt
with
the
issues
of
of
of
addressing
the
additional
pressure
of
of
organics
that
are
that
are
hopefully
going
to
be
entering
the
stream.
B
Because
that's
what
we
want
to
do.
We
want
to
divert
from
landfill
so
kudos
to
staff
for
advancing
that.
Thank
you
to
to
the
toronto
environmental
alliance
and
other
other
folks
who
were
advocating
the
advancement
of
that
capital
facility,
and
I
will
I
I'll
support
of
this
reduction
in
the
anticipated
fee
at
this
at
this
stage,
but
I
think
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
have
to
stick
to
it,
despite
the
fact
that
it's
difficult
to
put
increases
on
fees,
we're
gonna
have
to
stick
to
it
in
future
years.
A
Okay,
I
will
I'll
speak
quickly,
first
of
all,
matt
and
all
the
staff
and
your
entire
team.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
incredible
work
that
you've
been
doing
under
challenging
circumstances,
and
I
think
this
will
be
a
theme
that
we're
going
to
be
seeing
as
this
the
first
budget
we're
looking
at
as
we
go
to
water
toronto.
A
Well,
everything
actually
after
that
is
that
the
theme
of
how
do
we
manage
in
a
very
very
challenging
year-
and
I
think
matt
and
his
team-
are
a
good
example
of
the
work
that
has
been
happening
from
their
perspective.
They
have
come
to
us
with
a
1.5
percent
increase
recognizing
that
it
should
have
been
2.7,
but
they've
done
a
lot
of
good
work
to
recognize
number
one.
A
They
want
to
keep
these
standards
the
service
standards
very
high,
but
at
the
same
time
recognizing
the
challenges,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
in
the
city
and
otherwise
are
challenging
and
bringing
something
affordable
to
us
to
approve
and
again
the
1.5
percent.
I
know
in
some
of
the
conversations
prior
to
this.
What
would
be
a
reasonable
number?
I
think
what
was
important
is
is
what
can
you
do?
A
It'll
be
difficult,
but
I
think
it'll
be
achievable.
So
again,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
and
your
entire
team.
The
work
that
you've
been
doing,
of
course
I'll
be
supporting
the
1.5
percent
and,
as
I
said,
there
will
be
a
theme
as
we're
going
through
this
entire
budget
about
trying
to
keep
things
affordable.
This
is
the
first
step
in
doing
that
water
after
this
will
be
similar
and
again
acknowledging
the
incredible
work
that
staff
have
done.
So
thank
you.
A
C
A
A
A
Okay,
so
19.6
capital
variance
for
the
12
months
ending
december
31st,
all
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried
bu
19.7,
the
operating
variance
report
year,
ending
december
31st
2019
on
favor
pose
that's
carried
great
thanks,
counselor,
okay,
so
why
don't?
We
have
one
more
item
that
has
a
deputy
bu
19.3
2021
rate
supported
budgets,
toronto
parking
authority.
I
I
think
it's
just
a
testimony
to
how
fast
the
city
had
staff
has
really
responded
to
a
huge
need
for
safe
and
affordable
and
convenient
mobility
options,
and
so
an
amazing
success,
and
I
think
I
read
in
the
documents
that
there
were
2.5
million
rides
in
the
past
year,
so
kudos
for
that
and
I
think
from
toronto
environmental
toronto.
Environmental
alliance's
perspective.
I
We
want
to
just
make
a
couple
of
points
about
this
budget,
raise
a
couple
of
concerns
and
the
first
concern
really
is
related
to
to
bike
share
and
the
continued
expansion
of
bike
share
and
and
there's
a
concern
that
that
this
budget
doesn't
do
enough.
I
think
to
recognize
and
support
the
the
continued
expansion
of
bike
share,
and
so
I'll
just
make
a
couple
of
points
on
that.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
So
I
conclude
by
urging
council
to
to
direct
the
toronto
parking
authority
to
to
think
beyond
the
short
term,
to
think
beyond
luring
drivers
back
into
parking
spaces
and
start
to
think
hard
about
how
to
better
use
the
city's
fast
parking
real
estate
to
advance
toronto's
commitment
to
building
a
healthy,
resilient
and
equitable
city
for
today's
residents
and
tomorrow's
residents
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
H
J
The
increased
amount
is
needed
to
promote
compliance
at
our
off
street
parking
lots,
car
parks
where
tpa
has
removed
the
daily
maximum
rate
and
there's
32
of
these
specific
car
parks
are
a
particular
turn
at
these
locations.
The
equivalent
rate
to
park
for
an
eight-hour
period
exceeds,
and
in
some
cases
quite
significantly,
the
current
30
penalty
amount
to
verify
the
extent
of
the
issues
we
went
out
and
did
some
surveys
and
found
that
only
64
of
those
were
actually
paying
for
parking
at
these
locations.
J
So
the
proposed
new
amount
is
something
that
we're
recommending
to
drive
compliance.
The
new
penalty
amounts
that
are
being
recommended
are
also
comparable,
with
parking
related
infractions
that
are
imposed
by
other
municipalities
throughout
canada
and,
if
approved,
we'll
work
to
get
the
new
penalty
amount
in
place
as
early
as
possible
in
2021.
J
H
J
B
B
Apologies,
I
I
didn't
realize
I
had
I
didn't
realize
I
had
my
video
off.
I
was
waving,
but
I
should
have
realized
that
if
I
could
ask
staff
it
came
up
in
the
deputation.
The
bike
share.
Staffing
salaries
are
down
significantly
going
into
2021,
given
the
ridership
is
increasing.
Why
are
we
spending
less?
How
do
we
justify
that.
G
B
G
B
Okay,
I'll
have
to
get
some
clarity
from
that
in
between
now
and
and
council
venom
this
this
greening
initiative
that
you
have
for
parking
lots.
That's
the
permeable
pavers,
some
plantings,
not
I
don't
mean
to
simplify,
but
it's
probably
way
more
complex
than
that,
but
essentially
that's
it
right.
That
is
correct.
Now
you
have
50
million
in
the
budget
for
various
structural
and
greening
initiatives
from
2021
to
2030..
A
B
Look
at
that
and
they
fix
all
the
prefixes
for
people's
titles
just
minutes
way
to
go,
that
the
request,
the
acting
president
toronto
parking
authority
and
the
director
office
of
energy
and
environment
to
submit
a
briefing
note
to
december
10,
2020
meeting
of
executive
council
on
a
what
could
be
done
as
part
of
the
2021
toronto
park
and
authority
budget
to
help
achieve
climate
change
targets,
including
expanding
bike
share
and
cycling
facilities
at
tpa,
lots,
greening
initiatives,
enhancing
stormwater
management
and
electric
vehicle
charging
facility
capacity
at
toronto.
Parking
authority
lots.
That's!
B
The
question
I
forgot
to
ask
was
how
many
ev
stations
are
at
tpa
lots,
and
I
can
tell
you
I
don't
think
it's
many
and
that's
that's
a
shame,
because
a
lot
of
other
jurisdictions
are
are
looking
to
to
those
lots
as
potential
on
sites
for
a
significant
electric
vehicle
charging
facilities,
because
they're
all
over
the
city
and
because
we
can
make
that
investment.
We
can
see
that
investment
amortize
over
time.
But
let
me
take
a
step
back.
You
know
we
made
a
commitment
to
to
net
zero
by
2050..
B
The
toronto
parking
authority
is
entirely
under
our
control
and
a
major
contributor
to
one
aspect,
one
piece
of
that
ghg
pie
that
we
need
to
that.
We
need
to
change
a
pretty
major
piece,
look
and
I'm
not
saying
we
should
be
selling
off
all
this
land
to
plant
trees,
because,
as
we
shift
over
things
like
ev
will
need
infrastructure,
not
everyone
can
charge
an
ev
at
their
home.
Not
everyone
wants
to
pave
over
their
front
yard
to
put
an
eb
in
there.
B
There
are
many
jurisdictions
around
the
world
that
are
actually
trying
to
put
them
centrally
in
lots
so
that
people
charge
their
eps
while
they're
out
shopping,
they
charge
them
while
they're
at
work
and
the
reality
is.
We
are
the
agent
of
that
change.
We
are
going
to
have
to
be
a
major
agent.
We
we
went
ahead
and
did
a
whole
eb
strategy
and,
if
we're
not
starting
to
ensure
that
strategy,
achieving
our
transform
to
goals
are
embedded
in
every
single
budget.
B
If
we're
not
doing
that,
we're
not
doing
our
job
and
we're
not
living
up
to
the
commitments
that
we
made
both
to
the
residents
of
the
city
of
toronto
and
internationally
in
the
accords
that
we
sign
with
other
cities
to
to
achieve
those
reductions,
so
I
think
that
it
it's
it
perhaps,
is
that
some
of
our
some
of
our
divisions
aren't
fully
realizing
and
aligning
with
the
climate
goals
of
the
city,
and
these
things
take
time.
I'm
not
faulting
everyone
for
anyone
for
it,
but
it's
time
we
start
doing
that
realignment
now.
A
Seeing
none,
I
do
have
a
motion
that
I
have
to
move.
It's
bu
19.3,
where
counselor
nunziada's
questions
came
from.
It's
on
the
screen.
City
council,
increased
the
penalty
amount
from
30
to
75
for
the
offenses
in
these
below
and
sections
city
councilman,
the
city
of
toronto
municipal
code,
chapter
610
penalties
administration
has
set
out
an
attachment
to
so
begin
with
that,
that's
again
just
outlining
those
changes.
All
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried.
A
A
B
Mr
chair,
on
a
on
a
point
of
personal
privilege
and
just
a
just
an
observation
that
often
times
it's
certain
counselors
of
a
certain
political
persuasion
or
a
certain
geographic
area
are
referred
to
as
those
fighting
the
so-called
war
on
the
car.
The
the
budget
chief
from
scarborough
just
doubled
the
parking
fine.
So
thank
you
for
joining
our
team.
Comrade.
B
K
The
sheriff
thank
you,
mr
chair.
There
was
a
delay
because
originally
we
had
anticipated
going
out
in
the
spring
to
do
public
consultation,
just
as
we
were
scheduling
all
the
meetings.
All
the
lockdowns
happened,
the
first
lockdown
with
covid,
so
we
had
to
postpone
all
of
our
plans
for
public
consultation
during
the
summer
time,
working
with
our
public
consultation
unit,
we
were
able
to
devise
the
strategy
to
do
it
virtually
so
we
restarted
the
consultation.
K
Yes,
and
primarily
on
the
capital
component.
So
if
you
look
at
toronto,
water's
capital
program,
there's
significant
growth
in
the
stormwater
category
over
the
10-year
period,
and
so
that's
really.
What's
driving
the
increase
in
cost.
There
are
increasing
costs
on
the
operating
side,
percentage-wise
they're.
They
are
increasing
at
a
larger
percentage
than
other
costs.
K
For
2021,
the
capital
budget
is
1.35
billion.
We
are
projecting
to
spend
about
five
or
six
million
dollars
of
vmaf
funding.
If
you
go
over
10
years
where
the
the
expenditure
will
occur,
our
capital
program
is
14.8
billion
dollars.
Of
that
about,
110
million
is
from
the
dmath
funding.
So
you
can
see
it's
a
very
small
percentage.
It's
a.
K
B
K
K
We
have
looked
at
all
their
programs
continued
to
look
at
all
their
programs.
I've
had
several
meetings
with
the
canada
infrastructure
bank.
Unfortunately,
none
of
those
programs
are
significantly
tailored
to
to
meet
the
programs
that
we
have
a
lot
of
times.
There's
issues
or
caveats
of
when
the
work
has
to
be
done
is
the
travel
ready.
K
C
Thanks,
mr
chair
good
morning,
lou
good
morning,
I
noticed
that
your
your
your
budgeted
position
count
is
the
same
as
as
as
last
year
as
well
as
as
the
year
we're
in
right.
Now
it
stays
the
same,
but
I'm
wondering
how
many,
how
what's
the
actual
snapshot
for
right
now?
How
many
of
the
of
the
position
count
that
we
see
in
the
overall
budget
are
actually
on?
Did
you
have
any
emergency
leaves
during
the
kovic
crisis.
K
So
journeyco
would
no,
we
maintain
full
operation,
and-
and
so
we
did
not
have
to
redeploy
any
staff.
In
fact,
we
did
have
to
make
some
adjustments
and
have
people
working
from
home
or
separating
to
make
sure
they
had
appropriate
physical
distancing.
We
instituted
shifts,
for
example,
so
we
didn't
have
as
many
people
in
a
yard
or
a
plant
location,
a
number
of
different
things
that
we
had
to
put
in
place,
but
we
had
to
keep
operating
so
there
were
no
redeployment
of
staff.
K
We've
been
running
right
now,
a
vacancy
rate
higher
than
we
normally
do,
as
as
we
were
unsure
what
was
going
to
happen
with
revenues,
particularly
in
march
april
and
may
we
saw
a
quick
drop
in
in
consumption
in
certain
certain
categories
of
customers.
So
we
were
cautious
on
filling
certain
positions.
We've
got
approval
now
to
fill
those
essential
positions
and
we've
been
doing
that.
K
C
Okay,
okay,
great
and
now
in
terms
of
the
in
terms
of
the
impact
your
your
budget
shows
us
that
that
that
drop
in
commercial
consumption
that
happened
during
during
the
first
lockdown
had
significant
impact,
commercial
and
industrial,
and
now
now
we're
heading
into
another
lockdown
a
difficult
time.
We
don't
know
how
long
it'll
last
your
budget
anticipates
that
there's
a
a
revenue
hit
again
in
2021
in
that
class
in
the
commercial
and
industrial.
C
K
So,
for
the
short
term,
so
for
next
year
we're
fine
the
there's
sufficient
funding
in
the
reserve,
as
well
as
our
projections
on
revenue.
We
did
have
a
bit
of
a
rebound
in
revenue
this
year
within
the
hot
summer,
so
that
offset
some
of
the
impact
of
of
the
softening
in
some
of
our
commercial
classes.
We've
done
a
deeper
dive.
Now
of
of
our
ici
accounts,
our
industrial,
commercial
and
institutional
accounts.
What
we
found
is
yes,
overall,
there
was
a
reduction.
K
However,
there
were
some
that
went
up,
so
there
are
some
sectors
where
they
were
busier
and
use
more
water,
but
overall
there
was
a
decrease
in
that
in
that
sector.
We
do
suspect
that
it
won't
be
as
sharp
a
decline
as
we
saw
in
march
and
april,
and
that's
primarily
because
a
lot
of
the
schools
are
open
now,
as
opposed
to
everything
shut
down.
There's
the
institutional
sector,
for
example,
shut
down
significantly
in
march
in
april.
K
As
everything
was
closed
now
you
have
partial
closures,
so
there
is
a
softening
there,
but
we
suspect
that
some
of
that
is
made
up
with
residential
use.
Residential
consumption
was
slightly
higher
as
well.
The
york
region
took
more
water
from
us
as
they
had
their
residential
consumption.
Go
up
so
we've
put
forward
a
conservative
estimate
for
next
year.
K
C
Okay,
I
just
have
one
other
question,
mr
chair,
and
it's
about
a
more
down
to
the
level
of
homes.
We
we
set
a
target
in
in
service
levels
for
being
able
to
go
out
and
check
all
the
catch
basins
ourselves
to
make
sure
that
they're
clear
and
that
as
we
then
as
we
get
into
the
big
thaw
at
the
end
of
winter,
we
don't
see
as
much
basement
flooding.
K
Yeah
it
had
a
slow
start,
we've
been
rejigging
some
of
the
technologies
and
and
the
contracts
that
we're
using
to
do
the
catch
basin
work.
If
I
categorize
them
into
several
quick
buckets
so
sewers,
we've
been
using
new
technology
to
check
for
sewer
blockages,
that's
been
working
well
and
and
instead
of
flushing
all
sewers
all
the
time
we
use
acoustic
technology,
only
flush,
those
ones
that
need
it.
So
that
saves
us
time
and
money
catch
basic
cleanings
we've
had
some
contractor
issues
and
we've
readjusted
our
contracts
in
this
past
year.
K
So
we
we
should
get
that
back
on
to
meeting
our
target
levels
and
finally,
the
resets.
So
there's
we've
been
doing
the
utility
cuts
so
remember.
The
permanent
restoration
of
utility
cuts.
Toronto
water
took
that
over
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
we've
been
doing
that
as
well
as
the
catch
basin
resets,
so
that
just
the
re-leveling,
so
those
contracts
have
actually
been
working
quite
well,
took
us
a
while
to
ramp
up,
but
this
year
we've
been
meeting
and,
in
certain
cases
exceeding
some
of
our
targets.
K
B
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
I
don't
have
any
briefing
note
requests
for
for
for
lou
on
this
one.
Just
I
thank
you
very
much
for
again,
your
your
work
bring
forward
a
budge,
a
capital
budget,
that
that
shows
a
commitment
to
decreasing
the
state
of
good
repair
and
despite
the
fact
that
it
means
increasing
costs,
I
will
support
the
proposed
1.5.
B
B
My
one
concern
in
this
is
that
that
the
costs
of
climate
change
are
captured
within
that
capital
budget,
because
the
workers
have
begun
locally
or
globally,
to
fight
climate
change
and,
to
the
degree
necessary
to
to
to
hope
that
the
status
quo
was
good
enough
because
it
won't
be
because
there
will
be
changes
in
our
severe
weather.
There
will
be
changes
in
in
water
levels
in
use.
B
So
we
got
to
make
sure
that
lou's
got
the
resources
to
pull
this
off,
because
it
is
and
incredibly
important
that,
through
the
management
of
water,
is
going
to
be
incredibly
important
in
the
decades
to
come,
both
for
the
protection
of
property
and
the
protection
of
key
pieces
of
infrastructure,
but
also
in
the
protection
of
life.
So
I
would
urge
us
to
to
keep
that
in
mind
when
we're
doing
our
projections
and
hopefully
the
new.
C
Yes,
mr
chair,
I
I
you
know,
I
share
counselor
leighton
sentiments.
I
I'm
gonna
support
the
1.5,
because
I
know
it's
what
people
want,
but
I
just
can.
I
continue
to
caution
and
it'll
certainly
come
into
play
when
we
get
into
the
main
city
budgets.
I
I
really
caution.
We
all
want
to
do
what
we
can
right
now
to
help
people
keep
their
costs
down,
but
I
worry
about
the
long
run.
C
I
worry
that
we're
going
to
get
into
a
situation
where
we
really
have
to
to
put
in
some
unpalatable
increases
later
on
to
catch
up
at
the
very
time
when
similar
recovery
measures,
debt
reduction
measures
etc
will
be
going
on
for
our
rate
payers
and
property
taxpayers
in
the
federal
and
provincial
government,
who
are
now
incurring
record
levels
of
debt
to
get
us
through
this
crisis.
And
so
I
worry
that
the
onus
falls
to
us
to
do
the
smoothing
of
our
costs,
and
so
this
dip
this
year
is
one
thing.
C
You
know
election
year,
etc
we're
looking
at
this
dip
in
revenue.
Again,
god
forbid
there
should
the
this
lockout
should
extend
into
2021,
but
but
if
it
does,
we
really
need
to
smooth
out
how
we
deal
with
with
our
rates,
because
we've
got
to
anticipate
that
things
are
going
to
get
a
little
more
expensive
on
the
federal
and
provincial
side
in
terms
of
what's
asked
of
our
residents.
A
I
will
speak
quickly
myself,
then
again,
just
want
to
thank
the
entire
water
staff
lou,
your
entire
team
year
after
year,
come
to
us
with
amazing
numbers
again.
This
is
another
example
in
a
year
of
challenging
times,
coming
together
to
us
with
a
number
of
numbers,
I'm
bringing
down,
as
you
said,
to
1.5,
of
course,
I'll
be
supporting
that
and
recognizing
in
a
challenging
time
that
you
have
done
what
you
need
to
do,
and-
and
thank
you
for
that-
I
mean
whether
you
know
through
the
efficiencies.
A
I'm
glad
you
mentioned
the
fact
that
there
were
no
layoffs,
cost
mitigation
measures
savings.
You
know
with
consumption,
all
that,
recognizing
that
you
did
your
part
and
we
need
to
look
at
keeping
every
budget
as
affordable
as
possible
this
year
and
and
we're
so
far
doing
that,
but
at
the
same
time
preserving
the
capital
program.
If
and
the
questions
that
I'd
asked
prior
to
this
meeting
is
is,
can
you
bring
a
1.5
but
preserve
the
capital
program,
preserve
the
the
work
that
you're
going
to
be?
A
Okay,
I
believe
we're
just
doing
the
item.
Okay,
so
all
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried
great.
We
actually
do
have
one.
I
thought
this
was
the
last
thing,
but
I
was
just
mentioned.
We
do
have
19.4
the
municipal
land
transfer,
tax
rebate
for
first
home,
first-time
home
buyers,
councilor
bradford,
you
actually
held
that.
Did
you
have
questions
of
staff.
A
G
Are
you,
mr
chair,
so
I'll
I'll
give
you
an
overview?
Andrew
flynn
is
also
on
the
line
and
I'm
sure
he'll
jump
in
if
I
miss
something,
but
a
simple
overview
would
be
currently,
the
city
offers
an
mltt,
a
municipal
land
transfer
tax
rebate
and
the
the
report
is
contemplating
increasing
the
threshold
to
which
the
rebate
is
currently
offered
at
400
000..
G
What
the
report
is
also
saying
is
that
if
we
were
to
consider
increasing
the
threshold
for
the
rebate,
we
may
also
want
to
consider
in
actual
fact
capping
the
value
of
a
property
for
the
first
time
homeowner
at
an
arbitrary
value.
So
I'm
not
going
to
put
in
a
a
capped
value,
but
this
is
saying:
if
you
qualify
for
the
rebate,
do
all
properties
qualify
or
should
the
value
of
the
property
be
capped
at
a
specific
value?
So
these
are
the
the
items
that
are
being
considered
at
the
present
time.
D
D
D
I
think
that's
a
great
policy,
but
in
order
for
it
to
continue
to
be
helpful
in
order
for
it
to
continue
to
be
relevant,
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
details
of
those
thresholds
and
make
sure
it
reflects
the
real
estate
market
that
we're
living
in
today,
as
our
cfo
alluded
to.
There's
also
work
to
be
done
with
respect
to
potentially
looking
at
a
cap
on
that
as
well.
D
So
really
going
back
to
the
intent
and
the
essence
of
the
policy
and
making
sure
that
we
keep
it
up
to
date
with
the
toronto
real
estate
market,
making
sure
that
we're
providing
that
affordability
for
first-time
buyers
but
doing
it
in
a
sensitive
way.
That
looks
at
the
market
prices
and
also
considers
you
know
the
idea
of
first-time
home
and
what?
What
exactly
we're
trying
to
provide
that
relief.
For.
So
that's
the
motion
and
would
appreciate
your
support.
C
Oh
okay,
so
I
I
just
have
a
quick
question
of
the
mover,
I'm
just
wondering
if
it
in
in
choosing
the
words
and
any
other
relevant
factors.
When
the
report
comes
back
looking
at
2022,
would
you
be
interested
in
looking
in
the
raising
the
threshold?
Also
looking
at
a
cap?
Could
that
be?
Could
that
be
something
that
they
report
on
as
well?
At
the
same
time,.
D
Yes
in
my
in
my
discussions
with
our
cfo
about
this,
that's
certainly
something
that
her
and
her
team
have
brought
forward
and
she
just
sort
of
teed
up
in
her
comments
there.
I
think
that's
something
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense:
okay,
trying
to
provide
the
affordability
for
first-time
homebuyers,
but
you
know
some
people
need
that
support
more
than
others.
So
I
think,
looking
at
an
app
is
a
prudent
and
smart
thing
to
do.
C
Well,
I
can
support
this
motion
as
long
as
it
does
contemplate
looking
at
at
the
cat
piece
as
well.
Everyone
knows
that
that
you
know
we
started
out
with
the
the
the
the
level
that
was
chosen
in
order
to
easily
collect
along
with
the
province
the
original
first
time.
Buyer
level
that
was
chosen
was
chosen
because
it
was
harmonized
with
the
province
which
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense.
C
As
long
as
we're
also
choosing
a
cap
and
and
the
cap
could
be
generous,
it
could
be
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
or
or
on
up,
but
I
I
think
at
a
certain
point.
We
have
to
look
at
that
because
there
are
first-time
buyers
that
arrive
in
this
city
and
the
first
property
they
buy
is
a
penthouse
condominium
worth
three
million
dollars
and
that's
the
person
we
think
should
invest
in
the
city.
A
Thank
you
very
much
any
other
comments
seeing
none,
so
the
motion
by
council
of
bradford
I'll
put
it
up
quickly,
I'll
favor
oppose
that
carried
on
the
item.
Bu
19.4
on
favor
opposed
that
carries
well.
Thank
you.
We
are
done
appreciate
all
your
time
and
thank
you
very
much
to
staff
for
all
their
their
efforts
and
we
will
be
moving
all
these
items
on
to
executive
next.
Thank
you
have
a
good
day.