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City Council, meeting 38, March 27, 2018 - Part 1 of 3
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A
B
Well,
madam
Speaker
and
colleagues
and
Peter
Wallace
in
particular
good
morning-
and
you
know
I
hope
you
know
you
don't
hope
that
you'd
ever
be
standing
here.
Talking
about
the
departure
of
one
of
our
most
senior
people,
whether
it
be
because
of
retirement,
or
in
this
case,
to
take
on
a
very
distinguished
position.
B
It
is
a
position
of
a
significant
responsibility,
probably
the
most
significant
public
finance
job
in
the
country
with
a
question
and
something
that
obviously
it's
a
very
high
honor
to
be
offered
that
job
in
the
government
of
Canada.
But
you
still
hope
that
you're,
not
you,
know,
standing
here,
even
with
an
opportunity
like
that
having
to
say
goodbye
to
somebody
I,
you
know
in
in
looking
at
Peter,
Wallace
and
his
time
here,
I
could
sort
of
go
through
the
recitation
of
the
list
of
different
acknowledgments
and
recognitions.
B
You
know.
Instability
here
has
helped
in
the
process
of
stabilizing
this
place
in
getting
us
back
to
yes,
you
know
very
vigorous
debates
about
things
and
different
points
of
view,
but
at
the
same
time,
sort
of
moving
forward
and
getting
some
things
done
without
undue
distraction
and
I
think
that
does
apply
and
I
go
I.
Don't
want
any
of
my
comments
to
be
taken
this
morning
as
being
sort
of
partisan
in
the
context
of
the
debates
that
we
had
as
recently
as
yesterday
in
some
of
these
matters.
B
But
if
you
look
at
the
very
challenging
process
of
putting
together
our
budgets
each
year,
it's
challenging
and
I
sort
of
found
it
interesting
as
I
have
learned
about
it
too.
You
know
I
say
this
often
to
people
in
the
other
governments
that
I'm
dealing
with
imagine
the
challenge
of
having
to
produce
each
year
by
law,
a
balanced
budget.
It
forces
decisions
to
be
made
that
sometimes
don't
have
to
be
made
elsewhere,
and
sometimes
people
who
agree
or
disagree
with
how
we
make
or
what
we.
B
The
work
that
has
to
be
done
on
some
of
the
major
transit
projects
on
different
things
that
have
to
do
with
how
the
other
governments
are
now
helping
us
to
finance
things
here
is
painstaking
work.
It's
it's
incredibly
detailed
work,
it's
difficult
work
because,
of
course,
the
other
governments
aren't
always
wanting
to
do
things
in
exactly
the
way
that
we
would
and
I'm
sure
they
feel
the
same
way.
But
Peter
worked
hard
on
that
and
was
an
invaluable
asset
to
us,
particularly
as
regards
his
insights
into
the
operation
of
the
provincial
government.
B
I
think
that
again,
this
is
what
I
said.
I
was
alluding
to
the
debate
of
yesterday.
I
think
that,
notwithstanding
I
know
from
yesterday,
there
are
people
who
are,
you
know
dissatisfied
with
where
we
are
at
this
point
in
time.
With
regard
to
addressing
some
of
our
longer
term
financial
issues.
I
will
say
this
Peter
and
again,
with
the
support
of
his
team,
has
I
think
surfaced
honestly,
some
of
the
challenges
and
that
this
government
faces
in
terms
of
it's.
B
It's
it's
go
forward
ability
to
do
the
things
we
know
we
have
to
do
and
in
that
regard,
I
think
that
that
has
been
a
very
useful
service
for
us.
I
happen
to
believe
that
that
is
going
to
lead
to
the
kind
of
honest
discussion
and
really
the
debate
yesterday
was
about
timing
of
that
discussion.
It's
going
to
lead
to
the
kind
of
discussion
we
know
we
have
to
have
and
I
think,
even
under
his
leadership.
B
We
we
tried
very
hard
to
have
it
in
part
through
the
discussion
on
road
tools
and
that
didn't
work
out.
If
we
hadn't,
we
had
a
remarkable
consensus
in
this
room
and
I
was
proud
of
that
of
all
of
us
in
coming
to
that
consensus,
and
it
didn't
work
out
so
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
go
through
the
same
exercise
again
in
order
to
decide
how
we
can
build
the
city
that
we
want
going
forward.
B
So
a
Peter
I
think
in
that
regard,
and
one
more
that
I'll
mention
before
I
get
to
the
most
important
aspect
of
his
leadership,
which
is
the
one
that
I
want
to
mention
before.
That
is
just
to
say
that
I
think
we
have
begun
under
his
leadership
of
the
process
of
modernizing
the
city.
I
am
not
satisfied
with
the
pace
at
which
we're
doing
it.
That's
not
his
fault.
B
The
thing
I
want
to
say
to
you
that
was
most
important
to
me
and
I
hope
to
my
colleagues
I'm
sure
it
was
and
that
that
I
hope
we
all
feel
the
same
way
about
this,
which
was
that
you
also
did
your
job
absolutely
without
exception,
with
integrity
and
with
decency,
and
when
there
were
things
as
will
come
up
in
big
organizations,
especially
big
public
organizations,
that
called
into
question
how
people
had
behaved
or
some
you
know
what
series
of
events
unfolded.
You
always
opted
right
away.
B
I
can
tell
you
this
from
my
private
meetings,
which
were
many
with
Peter,
obviously
on
the
different
affairs
of
the
city
to
say:
let's
attack
it
head-on,
let's
deal
with
it,
let's
get
the
facts
on
the
table
and
and
let's
you
know,
have
consequences
flow
wherever
they
may
flow
from
those
kinds
of
things,
and
you
know
you
need
not
listen.
You
need
not
take
my
word
for
that.
I
think
when
events
transpired
elsewhere.
B
You
know
we
met
all
the
time
on
the
different
things
that
confront
us.
He
was
always
counseling.
You
know
that
we
should
try
to
make
sure
we
stay
on
course.
To
do
the
right
thing
and
to
me
you
know,
I
think
when
people
look
at
government,
they
don't
expect
perfection.
They
don't
expect
answers
to
problems
that
sometimes
don't
have
easy
answers.
They
do
expect
you
to
try
your
best.
They
expect
you
to
maintain
your
sense
of
integrity
and
decency.
B
Visa
vie
how
you
handle
problems
that
come
your
way,
including
the
most
thorny
of
problems
and
Peter.
I,
can
only
say
your
leadership
always
evidence
that,
as
the
first
and
foremost,
first
and
foremost,
a
consideration
in
your
mind,
and
so
in
conclusion,
I
want
to
just
say
that
the
time
here
was
too
short.
But
events
as
mr.
Trudeau's
senior
said
the
universe
unfolds
as
it
should
and
I'm
sure.
B
He
was
quoting
somebody
else
and
saying
that
and
that
we
thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
City
of
Toronto,
a
long
career
of
distinguished
public
service,
and
it's
going
to
carry
on
with
service
to
the
people
of
Canada
and
I'm.
Happy
at
the
fact.
If
I
have
to
be
happy
about
something
in
all
this,
that
we
have
a
friend
at
in
court
at
court
as
they
would
say
in
Ottawa,
and
that
doesn't
mean
you're
gonna
be
able
to
do
everything
for
us,
but
darn
near
I.
B
Hope,
and
we
wish
you
well
and
we
thank
you
for
your
public
service
to
the
people
of
Toronto,
especially
the
fact
that
I
think
you
have
conducted
yourself
with
such
a
great
sense
of
integrity.
Integrity
in
the
sense
of
confronting
problems,
but
also
just
the
way
you
dealt
with
issues
on
a
day
to
day
basis
and
to
me
that's
the
highest
compliment
that
I
could
pay
at
21.
On
behalf
of
my
colleagues,
thank
you
very
much.
C
B
Just
like
we
said
to
mr.
Libi
yesterday,
this
is
it
I
mean,
like
you
know,
like
I,
can't
even
tell
you
it's
a
gold
frame,
it's
some
kind
of
fake
gold
frame,
but
having
said
that,
it's
a
nice
looking
frame
and
I
won't
read
you
the
scroll
except
to
say
that
I
think
it
really
summarizes
much
of
what
I've
just
said.
The
last
few
minutes
in
terms
of
the
contribution
you've
made
to
stable,
sound,
decent
leadership
with
integrity
here
at
the
city.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
D
D
D
It's
a
joy
work
mayor
to
work
with
you
on
a
on
a
daily
basis
and
I
think
we've
we've
accomplished
a
great
deal.
I
also
want
to
thank
Council
for
extending
their
trust.
In
me,
I
am
an
outsider
to
this
organization,
or
at
least
came
in
as
an
outsider
to
this
organization.
Council
has
been
generous
in
their
capacity
to
work
with
me
and
generous
in
their
extending
of
their
trust.
D
Toronto
is
I,
think
really
really
really
important.
We
are
a
city,
that's
having
a
moment.
We
are
a
globally
attractive
place.
We
are
receiving
a
tremendous
amount
of
immigration
receiving
a
tremendous
amount
of
investment.
More
than
half
of
the
people
we
serve
collectively
were
not
born
in
Canada,
the
diversity
of
our
economy.
The
diversity
of
our
people
is,
is
world-class
in
it
literally
sent
sets
the
world
benchmark.
We
are
I
think
the
world's
very
best
bet,
the
world's
very
best
bet
in
living
together
and
prospering
together
and
I.
D
D
What
we
do
well
work,
whether
or
not
we
meet
adequate
services,
is
something
fundamental
and
really
does
have
an
impact
on
the
almost
3
million
people
we
are
privileged
to
serve
and
council
has
I
think
in
its
wisdom,
actually
taken
this
and
whens
council
and
its
members
take
things
seriously
when
you
actually
step
up,
as
you
usually
do
and
take
things
seriously
and
make
decisions,
you
make
great
decisions
and
you
instruct
staff
to
actually
do
stuff,
and
you
instruct
staff
to
save
money.
You
instruct
staff
to
increase
services.
We
do
actually
do
both
of
those.
D
It's
absolutely
critical
and
the
debate
should
not
be
affordability
versus
services.
It
should
be
how
we
accomplish
both
how
we
accomplish
both
of
those
there
needs
to
be
a
combination
of
efficiency
and
effectiveness
and
impact
in
every
single
decision,
an
accountant,
Dorst,
a
package
of
programs
that
is
making
a
big
difference
that
makes
a
real
difference
in
the
quality
of
life
of
our
citizens.
I
think
it's
incredibly
important
and
I've
been
greatly
privileged
to
work
with
all
of
you
in
implementing
that
package.
D
I
do
want
to
spend
a
moment
on
the
team
and
and
working
with
John
Livy,
deputy
city
manager,
Rossini,
deputy
city
manager,
Carboni,
deputy
city
master,
CEO,
Lee,
acting
CFO,
Joe,
flag
city
solicitor,
Wendy
Wahlberg
and
Ilya
Waqas
and
and
just
got
to
be
clear,
Lulu's
a
dotted
line,
not
actually
just
part
of
the
team
she's
a
dotted
line.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
maintain
the
separateness
of
clerks,
as
we
always
do,
but
has
just
been
fantastic.
D
It's
own
governance,
but
they
have
all
worked
with
me
in
the
very
best
of
faith,
they've
all
taken
the
instructions
to
do
more
with
less
very
seriously
and
they've
all
done.
Their
very
best
might
want
to
extend
my
appreciation
to
those
organizations
and
their
leaders
for
their
efforts
over
the
last
number
of
years.
D
I
do
want
to,
and
there
are
too
many
to
talk
about,
but
but
one
of
the
great
joys
of
public
sector
leadership
is
the
actually
opportunity
to
be
inspired
by
others
and
when
I
look
around
and
I
see
that
that
deputy
city
manager
cadre,
but
the
general
manager
cadre
and
the
directors
I
realize
that
there
are
individuals
who
answer
your
questions
on
a
weekly
basis
who
I
find
fundamentally
inspiring.
They
are
the
very
very
best
at
what
they
do.
They
are
fully
deserving
our
respect
and
our
support.
D
I
really
do
think
that
the
general
manager
cadre
in
this
organization
is
just
fantastic
and
provides
the
very
highest
degree
of
public
service
in
the
very
highest
degree
of
ethics.
I'm,
proud
of
what
we've
done
together.
I'm,
proud
of
of
the
opportunity
have
served
in
with
the
city
I'm,
proud
of
the
fact
that
City
Council
has
entrusted
me
to
to
be
a
leader
I'm,
proud
of
what
we've
accomplished
together.
D
It
is
so
closely
monitored,
is
I,
think
an
incredible
benefit,
and
one
of
the
most
fantastic
things
I
think
is
the
community
of
people
out
there
who
watch
us
who
take
us
seriously,
who
take
our
work
seriously,
who
analyze
exactly
what
we
do,
who
take
the
time,
energy
and
effort
to
make
their
opinions
their
analysis,
their
crunching
of
our
numbers,
their
relook,
at
what
we
do
and
make
that
available.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
those
people,
along
with
the
gallery
for
their
efforts.
I
also
want
to
thank
our
accountability.
D
Officers
I
think
they
do
a
fundamentally
great
great
job.
I
think
they
are
fundamentally
important
to
what
they
do.
I
think
in
a
place
like
Toronto,
where
we
have
imperfect
history,
where
we
have
all
sorts
of
hard
to
follow
crannies,
the
role
of
the
broader
public
and
the
role
of
the
accountability
office
should
not
be
underestimated
and
I
very
much
enjoy
working
with
with
both
of
those
groups.
D
Last
thing,
I'd
like
to
say,
is
that
I
am
leaving
and
I
am
leaving
with
Julianne
in
charge,
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
that
I
know
will
happen
is
that
you
will
extend
to
Julianne
the
same
support
and
respect
that
you
have
extended
to
me.
I
know
absolutely
that
will
happen
on
the
staff
side
and
I
know
councillors.
You
will
benefit
from
her
wise,
sophisticated
and
steady
leadership.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you.
A
Members
of
council,
we
will
not
review
and
confirm
the
order
paper.
There
are
25
items
left
on
the
agenda
plus
29
member
motions,
City
Council
decided
to
consider
the
following
items
as
first
and
second
items
of
business
today:
item
PW,
27.1,
reimagining,
young,
shepherd,
finch,
municipal
class,
environmental
assessment
study,
an
item
PG
27.5
on
townhouse
and
low-rise
Department
guidelines.
City
Council
will
consider
member
motions
at
2
p.m.
A
E
Yes,
thank
you.
Speakers.
Allow
me
a
moment
here
to
find
the
page
page
for
item
number:
PG
27.7,
Ontario,
Municipal,
Board
appeal
of
Official
Plan
amendment
2,
3
1
request
for
Directioners
I
have
ensured
there's
an
advance
circulation
of
an
amending
motion
and
I
just
like
to
put
that
through
right
now,.
E
F
G
H
C
I
I
The
item
is
on
page
5,
te.
Thirty
point:
nine
three
endorsement
of
events
for
liquor
licensing
purposes.
I
do
have
a
quick
motion
that
we
place
on
the
screen
by
clerks,
we're
simply
adding
two
more
establishments:
Maison
Mercer
and
the
Everleigh
to
this
lists
for
Canadian
Music
Week.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
I
H
L
J
That
City
Council
amend
the
offer
to
donate
between
the
city
and
Mount
Pleasant
group
of
cemeteries
and
respect
of
the
lands
notice
parts.
One
two
and
three
on
plan.
66
are
29
405
attached
as
Appendix
A
to
the
report
from
the
director
of
real
estate
services
to
the
earlier
of
March,
30th,
2019
or
30
days,
following
the
dismissal
of
the
settlement
of
the
legal
proceedings
between
the
Friends
of
Toronto,
public
cemeteries,
incorporated
in
Kristyn
wong-tam
and
Her
Majesty,
the
Queen
and
right
of
Ontario,
the
Public
Guardian,
the
trusty
and
menthol
the
seventh
group
cemeteries.
J
What
this
simply
does
is
the
background
to
this
is
that
the
cemetery
donated
land
to
the
city.
That's
been
held
up
because
there
is
a
legal
matter
between
a
group
of
people
and
the
cemetery.
So
what
this
does
is
it
just
extends
the
offer
from
the
cemetery
to
the
city
for
another
year,
at
which
time
the
matter
is
both,
as
should
be
settled.
Thank.
J
A
A
P
Q
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
there
was
certainly
engagement
with
the
TTC
around
transit,
I.
Think
part
of
the
challenge
with
either
alternative
has
been
connection
to
the
Finch
station,
the
LRT
station
subway
station
and
the
alternative
includes
fifth
Lane
north
of
Finch
to
accommodate
trips
in
that
direction.
We've
had
conversations
with
the
TTC
about
their
interest
in
having
six
lanes
north
of
Finch
so
that
they
have
both
the
north
and
southbound
access,
but
transit
certainly
is
an
issue.
We've
talked
about
access,
certainly
for
subway
patrons,
but
for
surface
transit.
P
R
Through
you
speaker,
the
the
assessment
of
transit
was
partially
considered
as
the
as
part
of
the
traffic
assessment
in
terms
of
surface
transit
travel
along
the
corridor,
as
well
as
opportunities
to
consolidate,
stops
and
provide
stops
in
lay-bys
for
both
the
GO
Transit
vehicles.
They
use
this
corridor
as
well
as
the
TTC,
so.
P
L
Three
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
we
have
not
been
able
to
determine
that
yet,
but
we
did
some
hypothetical
calculations
to
say.
If
there
was
a
30-second
delay
on
transit
on
transit
vehicles,
what
would
be
the
impact
and
what
that
is,
showing
us
that
if
we
have
a
30-second
delay
or
38,
approximately
38,000
customers
who
use
that
quarter
during
peak
would
have
a
combined
delay
of
about
almost
5,000
minutes.
L
A
L
P
L
A
L
R
Through
the
speaker,
we
do
have
information
about
the
impact
on
travel
time
through
the
corridor,
not
specifically
for
surface
transit
but
as
an
element
of
overall
travel.
Transform
young
in
a
2031
scenario
would
be
a
two
minute
increase
in
travel
time
and
the
enhance
young
transform
Beecroft
option
would
be
a
1.5
minute
increase
in
travel
time
and.
P
L
L
P
L
I
R
I
In
the
egg,
Lincoln
connects
study
between
Avenue
in
Mount
Pleasant,
where
they're
removing
a
lane
of
traffic
in
each
direction,
so
you'll
have
one
lane
in
either
direction
and
then
a
middle
turning
lane.
There's
a
small
bullet
point
hidden
in
the
report
that
says
over.
Ten
percent
of
loped
traffic
will
be
driven
into
the
local
neighborhoods.
How
much
of
the
traffic
if
option
one
is
taken
will
be
driven
into
the
local
neighborhoods.
R
Through
the
speaker,
the
the
modeling
that's
been
done
indicates
that
traffic
generally
coming
from
New
York
region
would
choose
other
routes
outside
of
the
study
area,
so
they
would,
they
would
generally
choose
bayview
or
Bathurst.
That's
alternates
beyond
the
the
traffic
that
would
be
carried
by
Yonge,
Street,
Dorris
or
Beecroft
within
the
North
York
Center.
What's
the
current
capacity
left
on
those
roads
over
the
three
roads
that
we're
talking
about?
We
have
fourteen
lanes.
R
I
I
R
R
Have
the
information
about
capacity
on
baby
or
about
fish
to
last
stuff
to
to
pull
that
up?
It's
it's
beyond
the
realm
of
the
study
area,
but
I
would
say
that
the
majority
of
of
traffic
coming
through
this
corridor
is
coming
to
and
from
York
Region.
Some
74%
of
traffic
on
Yonge
Street
originates
from
York
Region
and
that's
going
southbound
in
the
morning.
R
S
P
S
P
Q
P
P
Q
Sure
for
for
vehicles
about
21
percent
decrease
the
the
years
that
we
have
are
from
2010
to
1995
and
then
in
transit
about
an
18
percent
increase
in
transit
over
that
same
time
frame
and
an
increase
also
to
about
6
percent
of
walking
mode
share.
So
about
a
doubling
in
that
time
of
walk
mode
share
and.
P
P
Okay,
so
in
the
last
25
years
the
number
of
people
driving
through
this
corridor
has
gone
down,
while
the
number
of
people
taking
public
transit
and
walking
through
this
corridor
has
gone
up
and
there's
a
recommendation.
One
of
the
recommendations
is
to
maintain
the
cars
which
would
buck
the
trend.
Is
that
correct?
If.
Q
P
And
one
of
the
objectives
of
the
study
as
I
understand,
it
is
to
look
at
an
improved
streetscape
in
public
realm.
Building
on
the
tremendous
growth
in
population
of
the
options
in
front
of
us,
which
does
the
most
and
which
is
your
recommendation
for
improved
enhancements
to
the
public
realm
in
the
streetscape.
So.
Q
If
the
public
realm
and
streets
game
enhancements
are
a
critical
piece
and
the
impetus
for
this
study,
the
transform
young
alternative
typically
provides
about
two
point.
Four
or
five
meters
of
additional
public
realm
space
over
both
sides
of
the
street
and
then
enhance
is
about
just
a
little
under
a
meter
of
additional.
So
certainly
there's
more
public
realm
capacity
in
the
transform
young
alternative.
Okay.
P
A
N
You,
madam
Speaker,
through
to
our
transportation
staff
when
we,
when
we
looked
at
the
bluer
bike
lanes,
staff
came
forward
with
cycling
statistics
to
show
how
that
mode
would
increase
with
that
with
changes
to
the
road
I
gather.
We
also
did
that
with
Harvard
Street
when
those
decisions
were
made
is
that
correct
and
and
other
and
and
other
decisions
were
made
by
council
through.
N
R
Speaker,
no,
the
the
numbers
on
existing
cycling
volumes
are
not
in
the
report.
Part
of
the
objectives
of
this.
This
study
and
whether
that
be
in
the
transform
young
option
or
in
the
enhance
young
option
are
about
providing
cycling
network
connectivity.
So,
whether
that's
on
Yonge,
Street
or
whether
council
provides
to.
N
R
Say:
counselor
through
the
speaker
that
on
Doris
and
Bri
Croft
you
have
about
a
hundred
cyclists
who
weigh
in
an
eight-hour
period
and
on
Yonge
Street
that
the
the
peak
hour
is
about
25
cyclists
a
day
and
the
eight-hour
is
about
50,
so
they
are
very
low
volumes
for
an
urban
center
and
it's
about
providing
cycling
connectivity
for
a
safe
cycling
network
in
that
area.
I
would.
N
L
L
N
N
R
N
R
N
Q
N
Councillor
Carmichael
Greb
talked
about:
where
are
the
cars
going
to
go,
and
that
would
be
a
concern
to
me.
I
know:
there's
there's
Beecroft
and
there's
the
other
street,
but
if
the
mean
people
coming
in
from
York
region
will
choose
either
Bathurst
or
Bay
View.
Do
we
know
what
the
capacities
are
on
those
two
roads
in
terms
of
daily
vehicular
travel
and
and
whether
or
not
and
how
much
extra
capacity?
There
is
here's
my
concern,
because
my
concern
is
where
all
those
cars
gonna
go
so.
Q
My
understanding
is
that
when
the
ring
roads
were
constructed,
they
were
constructed
to
encourage
the
capacity
and
the
growth
in
that
area.
They
are
now
currently
under
capacity
they're
not
being
used
at
their
full
capacity
and
so
be
Croft
and
Doris.
So,
starting
with
that,
in
terms
of
the
14
lanes
that
we've
fully
analyzed
and
the
the
part
of
the
challenge,
there
is
the
connectivity
between
the
young
corridor,
both
from
the
north
and
the
south,
accessing
those
ring
roads,
and
so
both
alternatives
address
in
provements
to
vote
to
those
ring
roads
to
address
capacity.
Okay,.
I
I
1,300
trips
going
in
and
out
of
the
Finch
station.
It's
that's
great!
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
connectivity.
So
if
we
go
with
the
Beecroft
option
that
was
put
forward
at
Public
Works,
he
just
talked
me
through
the
connectivity.
I
understand
that
there's
TTC
lands
and
there's
a
connection
to
Willowdale
the
bike
lanes
at
Willow
del
that
are
pre-existing
if
you
could
just
walk.
Q
Me
through
that,
do
it
through
the
three
you,
madam
Speaker,
for
the
cycling
connections.
That's
exactly
right,
got
it
so,
on
the
enhance
young
transform
Beecroft.
The
Willowdale
piece
that
you
mentioned
is
actually
a
capital
project.
That's
going
to
be
constructed
in
2019
to
improve
Willowdale
with
on
street
facilities
for
the
enhanced
option
on
Beecroft.
It
is
a
dedicated
separated
cycle
track
facility
that
runs
on
Beecroft
all
the
way
to
the
hydro
corridor
trail
with
access
to
the
Finch
LRT
station.
Okay,.
I
I
Q
Through
councilor
I
just
wanted
to
indicate
that
the
proposal
that
peewit
put
forward
was
a
slightly
modified
alternative
of
enhanced
young
transform
Beecroft,
which
looks
sharrows
north
of
Finch
to
the
hydro
corridor
trail
as
a
cost-saving
measure,
because
part
of
the
impact
of
the
cost
on
the
enhanced
n
transform
Beecroft
is
property
acquisitions
north
as
we
get
further
into
design.
If
that's
the
selection
that's
made,
we
believe
that
there
are
options
that
reduce
that
cost
and
still
allow
us
to
have
that
connectivity.
Ok,.
I
Q
Were
asked
to
come
back
with
a
viable
alternative
to
transform
young,
and
we
have
done
that.
Ok,
we
believe
that
both
options
meet
the
criteria
that
was
established
and
we
believe
that
transform
meets
them,
given
the
cost
implications
and
the
public
realm
implications
we
believe
transform
young
is
the
is
the
more
viable
choice.
Ok,.
I
And
then
we
have,
we
have
two
options:
there's
different
price
tags
associated
with
each
I
asked
for
a
breakdown
of
those
those
costs.
I,
don't
think
I've
ever
seen
that
there's
a
there's
some
numbers
on
page
four
of
the
report,
but
I
did
ask
for
it
verbally
and
in
writing.
I
have
a
email
here
dated
December
11th.
Is
there
any
breakdown
to
show
that
the
true
costs
of
those
options
through.
R
Detailed
construction
breakdowns
were
only
recently
provided
from
our
consultant,
but
I
can
certainly
provide
that
to
you.
Counselor
the
enhanced
young
and
transform
Beecroft
option
was
broken
up
in
the
report
in
the
sense
of
the
full
cost
of
that
option
would
be
71
million.
The
youngstreet
portion
of
that
is
49
million,
and
the
Beecroft
portion
of
that
is
22
million.
So.
I
P
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Through
you
to
staff.
Obviously
one
of
the
big
concerns
about
whatever
we
do
is
the
increase
in
travel
time.
I
have
I,
see
them
through
the
report
or
in
the
report.
We
have
a
little
table
here
about
transform
young
and
then
the
enhanced
young.
One
of
the
things
the
report
mentions
is
that
cars
will
on
the
transform
young.
They
will
use
doors,
Beecroft,
Bayview
and
Bathurst.
What
are
the
increase
in
travel
times
for
cars
that
they
use?
Bayview.
R
Through
the
speaker,
we
haven't
calculated
the
increase
in
travel
time
on
Bayview
or
Bathurst,
but
we
do
know
that
Bayview
and
Bathurst
are
currently
operating
less
than
capacity
to
the
councillors
question
earlier,
depending
on
the
spacing
of
signals
and
the
particular
section
we're
talking
about
Bayview
ambassadors
have
a
capacity
of
between
50
and
65
thousand
vehicles,
but
are
currently
operating
in
a
range
of
about
40,000
vehicles
on
the
heaviest
sections.
Okay,.
P
Thanks
but
so
when
we
were
tied
to
garner
debate,
we
had
a
more
of
a
fulsome
report
where
they
were
different,
I
mean
you
had
about
15
minutes
away.
You
had
every
possible
travel
route
and
the
impact
on
travel
times.
If
there's
a
suggestion
that
cars
are
going
to
be
using
Bathurst
or
Bayview
that
other
two
major
north-south
routes.
Would
it
not
be
helpful
for
council
to
know
what
those
impacts
are
through.
R
The
speaker
when
we
look
at
the
impact
on
Yonge
Street
being
about
a
30
second
difference
between
the
two
alternatives
in
a
twenty
thirty
one
projection,
the
impact
on
Bathurst
and
Bayview
would
be
less
significant
than
that.
So
that's
why
we
haven't
detailed
that
level
of
impact
within
this
report.
Okay,.
P
P
Q
P
Sorry
for
that,
but
only
because
I
have
two
minutes:
I'm,
not
talking
about
pilot
project.
Yeah
I'm
talking
about
projects
would
be
approved
that
weren't
pilots
have
we
gone
back
and
looked
at
the
accuracy
of
the
modeling,
not
no
okay.
Thank
you
in
the
transform
young
which
I
mentioned
before
traffic
would
be
moved
on.
Some
traffic
will
go
on
to
Doris
and
Beecroft.
When
you,
when
you
looked
at
when
you
stated
the
increased
time
on
I'll
will
just
use
Doris
was
that
from
Finch
down
to
Shepherd.
P
Yes,
okay,
understanding
that
traffic
is
moving
from
young
over
to
Doris,
presumably
wants
to
come
back
to
young.
Do
we
have
the
data
of
what
that
actual
increased
time
is
because
we
are
actually
pushing
traffic
east
or
west,
but
then
you're
taking
the
actual
time.
At
those
points
with
the
point
not
with
the
the
measurement
not
be
once
its
back
on
young.
That.
Q
Was
included
in
the
assessment
was
a
network
model,
so
it
was
included
in
the
assessment
of
those
three
quarters
and
then
the
other.
The
other
piece
of
that
just
the
capacity
to
connect
back
to
young
Street
would
be
enhanced
in
either
alternative
through
modifications
to
the
to
the
connections.
Okay,.
P
And
I
understand
they
saw
in
the
report.
How
there's
this
a
projection
of
increase,
TTC
usage
is
lastly,
I'm
gonna
forget
that
questions
have
only
got
a
minute
left
at
the
King
Street
pilot.
How
much
time
has
been
saved
so
far
for
transit
users?
It's
about
four
minutes,
I,
think
that's
what
you
sent
me.
R
P
P
Q
P
Q
F
F
L
F
F
L
The
service-
it
will
definitely
get
worse
because
there
will
be
what
we
call
bunching,
meaning
you
have.
We
have
the
schedule,
but
the
buses
won't
be
able
to
maintain
the
schedule.
So
you
have
a
lot
of
a
number
of
buses
coming
at
one
time,
because
it's
unreliable,
you
have
that
variability.
Then
you'll
have
gaps
in
the
system,
so
customers
will
be
waiting
for
longer
periods.
Okay,.
F
And
three
men,
our
speaker
because
and
I,
want
to
maybe
ask
you
questions
about
what
you
just
said:
bunching
in
on
the
King
Street
project
for
the
people
in
the
downtown
core
we
want
less
bunching
correct,
that's
bunching
is
bad.
That's
great
bunching
is
bad.
It's
fair
for
me
to
make
that
comment.
We
don't
like
bunching
bunching
is
bad.
That's.
F
L
F
F
L
F
O
F
H
N
A
A
F
F
L
Reduce
the
number
of
lanes
from
which
what
is
proposed
in
the
document
is
to
reduce
the
number
of
lanes
from
six
to
five.
It
will
have
a
negative
impact
because
we
will
have
people
waiting
for
longer
and
we
are
experiencing
been
where,
where
we
make
travel
times
longer,
we
tend
to
reduce
ridership.
So.
F
F
L
F
L
L
L
L
F
H
To
pursue
TTC
a
little
bit
more
on
this,
my
understanding
is,
is
that
this
plan
is
actually
between
Sheppard
and
just
north
of
Finch.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
there's
a
thing
called
a
subway
underneath
that
section
of
Yonge
Street,
so
are
we
talking
about
with
routes
in
particular?
Are
you
talking
about?
Are
you
talking
about
the
young
North
young,
north
bus
that
goes
into
Sheppard,
because
that's
outside
the
zone?
It
seems
to
me
what
routes
are
you
talking
about
so.
L
We're
actually
talking
about
five
routes
that
come
down
from
that
operates
between
state
sites
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
five
routes
that
currently
operate
between
Steele's
and
Finch.
Those
roots
are
the
sixty
stills
West.
The
53
steals
is,
and
we
have
three
others
which
I
can't
recall,
but
certainly.
L
H
L
H
210
meters,
okay,
okay,
great,
okay,
so
to
transportation
staff
and
maybe
planning
staff
in
terms
of
pedestrian
pedestrianisation,
which
is
the
stronger
option.
The
Beecroft
option
or
the
in
terms
of
providing.
Frankly,
mobility
for
pedestrians,
which
gives
a
wider
sidewalks
strengthens
of
the
pedestrian
realm
through.
Q
The
transform
young
option
at
four
lanes
what
shortens
the
crossing
distance
east-west
across
Yonge
Street,
which
provides
enhanced
safety
for
pedestrians
crossing
both
alternatives,
increase
the
I
reduced
the
crossing
distance
on
the
north-south
blocks
and
I
believe
18
locations.
So
there's
enhancement
if
you're
walking
along
north-south
and
both
alternatives,
which.
Q
Young
with
four
lanes
again
shortens
that
crossing
distance
we've
seen
about
19
injuries
and
fatalities
in
the
study
area
over
the
course
of
the
past
seven
years,
and
so
we've
looked
comprehensively
at
how
and
all
of
those
are
impacting
pedestrians.
And
so
we're
really
quite
focused
on
wanting
to
make
sure
that
the
pedestrian
experience
is
about
the
most
enhanced
Hey.
H
Q
Q
Right,
I
think
that
what
what
you
would,
in
my
professional
opinion,
having
a
separated
all
ages
and
abilities
facility,
is
the
most
important
thing.
Certainly,
people
would
argue
that
having
it
on
Yonge
Street,
where
you
have
access
to
shops
and
transit,
etc,
is
more
direct
for
cyclists.
I
would
also
say
that
on
Beecroft,
as
long
as
you
have
a
connected.
Q
A
Q
I
Through
the
speaker,
both
of
the
options
point
in
the
right
direction
as
compared
to
the
status
quo,
so
they
both
move
us
into
a
more
active
environment
that
provides
options
for
all
ages
and
abilities,
in
particular
by
providing
the
separated
bike
lanes
and
both
options,
and
they
both
support
an
increased
option
for
pedestrians.
The
difficulty
in
choosing
between
the
two
for
health
is
that
our
review
is
based
on
literature,
that's
been
published
and
other
jurisdictions.
That
doesn't
mean
that's,
what's
going
to
happen
here
in
this
setting
and
in
this
time
period.
I
So
it's
not
possible
for
us
to
say
this
is
exactly
how
it
will
fold
out,
but
what
we
did
offer
was
to
be
involved
through
the
ongoing
decision-making.
That
will
happen
as
an
options
chosen
and
as
the
various
issues
related
to
creating
active
design
and
healthy
design
are
made
through
a
series
of
implementation
processes,
and
it's
in
that
stage
continuing
to
create
a
design
that
people
use
that
we
need
to
make
sure
we
satisfy
the
original
intent
of
the
vision,
which
is
to
create
a
more
walkable
active
form
of
transportation
right.
Thank
you.
I
A
P
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Mrs.
gray
I
wanted
to
ask
about
so
in
the
report
on
page
10a,
26,
there's
a
colored
graph
of
the
traffic
in
the
area
or
the
the
study
area,
and
so
my
understanding
from
the
report
is
the
the
traffic
that
flows
through
this
area.
The
study
areas,
your
staff
have
determined
that
74
percent
of
that
traffic
is
gonna,
come
from
outside
of
Toronto.
Do
you?
Yes,.
Q
Q
You,
madam
Speaker,
let
me
just
clarify
that
seventy-four
percent
is
traveling
along
Yonge
Street.
The
proposal
that
we
are,
that
is
on
the
table,
increases
and
improves
access
to
Doris
and
Beecroft
to
make
those
connections
more
viable
for
people
who
are
travelling
through
the
community
with
the
intent
that
Yonge
Street
itself
through
the
study
area
would
become
much
more
of
a
Main
Street
and
support
that
kind
of
connectivity
and
pedestrian
access
and
vibrancy
that
we
believe
was
envisioned
and
envisioned
also
as
part
of
the
North
York
Center
plan.
Okay,.
P
And
so
in
that
discussion
going
back
to
I,
remember,
Mel
Osman
was
mayor
and
he
wanted
this
to
be
the
downtown
in
North
York.
So
there
was
a
subway
station
was
built.
I,
remember
my
wife
girlfriend
then
lived
off
of
that
area,
so
he
office
development,
retail.
But
back
then
when
I
was
dating
my
wife
25
30
years
ago,
young
streets
never
changed.
It
was
built,
the
infrastructure
put
there
50
years
ago
and
nothing
has
changed
since
do.
Q
P
Q
Q
P
And
then,
in
terms
of
there's
some
discussion,
then
we
can
put
the
bike
lanes
on
Beecroft
and
so
those
people
that
are
going
down
Yonge
Street
from
York
Region.
You
expect
them
to
keep
going
down.
Yonge
Street
they're,
not
gonna,
go
off
into
the
neighborhood
to
make
a
big
loop
to
get
around
there.
You
would
expect
the
same
if
I
was
riding
a
bike
down.
Yonge
Street
odds
are
if
you're
riding
a
bike.
You're
just
gonna
keep
riding
down
Yonge
Street
I.
Q
Think
that
through
you,
I
think
that
you,
a
cyclist,
will
likely
choose
the
best
facility
for
their
trip
and
level
of
skills.
So
if
the
bike
lanes
are
on
Beecroft
and
the
connectivity
to
the
Beecroft
facility
is
strong
one,
then
they
will
likely
take
that
facility
and
if
they
are
comfortable
riding
on
in
with
mixed
traffic,
then
they
will
probably
continue
straight,
but
the
goal
for
us
was
to
create
the
best
option
for
cyclists
in
either
of
these
alternatives.
Okay,.
P
Q
Q
P
And
a
half
additional
million
dollars,
okay
and
then
my
last
question
I
just
wanted
ask
there's
a
reference
I
believe
in
the
report:
78,
pedestrian
and
motor
vehicle
collisions
and
another
five
with
cyclists
in
a
five
year
period
in
this
area.
As
this
is
this
high
on
it
compared
to
a
city
average
or
yes,.
M
Q
M
Q
M
M
The
Danforth
they'll
talk
about
that
and
councillor
to
beer
maker
was
speaking
about
counter
shiner
I,
just
what
counselor,
where
am
I
gonna,
hear
this,
so
he
was
speaking
about
what
makes
things
worse
and
so
I
want
to
be
more
positive
and
talk
about
what
makes
things
better.
So
what
gets
better
with
the
transform
young
plan?
Well.
Q
I
want
to
start
thank
you
for
the
question.
Councillor.
I
want
to
start
by
saying
that
the
impetus
for
the
transform
young
project
talking
about
the
growth
that
councillor
Ainsley
just
asked
about,
was
really
about
creating
a
stronger,
more
vibrant,
consistent
public
realm
to
support
all
the
activity
in
the
North
York
center,
the
small
businesses,
as
well
as
the
growing
employment
center,
and
so
that
is
a
critical
piece
of
it.
As
you
know,
with
public
realm
separation
from
on
from
existing
traffic
lanes
and
also
having
a
managed
Crossing
is
also
quite
critical.
Q
M
M
I
I
S
Correct
the
policy
framework
in
the
North
York
Center
plan
really
focuses
Yonge
Street
as
a
main
facility
for
public
promenade
and
really
public
life.
So
the
the
emphasis
on
through
design
guidelines
and
other
policies
in
the
North
York
Center,
including
a
four
metre
setback,
is
around
creating
a
people
place.
It
uses
the
word
vibrancy
in
order
to
create
what
you
would
normally
expect
to
find
in
a
in
a
in
a
village
or
a
center,
or
in
this
case,
in
a
downtown
for
for
North,
York
and.
I
S
Don't
think
that
we've
gone
far
enough,
the
the
the
four
metre
setback
has
certainly
helped,
and
when
you
walk
cycle
or
Drive
for
that
matter,
the
experience
of
the
space
is
quite
variable.
This
reconstruction,
that's
scheduled
to
take
place,
is
a
great
opportunity
to
align
the
vision.
That's
in
the
Official
Plan,
both
the
parent
plan
and
the
secondary
plan,
but
also
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
really
take
a
big,
bold,
move
and
reimagine
the
way.
The
way
that
public
space
can
really
work
with
the
land
use
strategy.
S
We
have
to
remember
that
it's
a
mixed-use
center
we
want
mixed-use
in
all
of
Toronto's
urban
growth
centers
in
beyond.
Being
able
to
induce
walkability
through
design
is
one
of
the
key
objectives
here
and
creating
the
amount
of
space
that
comes
I
acknowledge
with
both
options,
but
certainly
in
a
more
generous
fashion,
with
the
transform
option
we
all
better
align
with
the
land
use
policies
and
the
overall
strategy
for
the
center.
Thank.
I
S
I
Q
Q
R
The
speaker,
the
the
ten-year
cycle
Network
plan,
identified
a
major
corridor
study
for
this
section
of
Yonge
Street,
which
was
delivered
as
part
of
this
environmental
assessment
study
fulfills
that
objective
we
brought
forward
that
work
in
the
first
phase,
recommending
the
transform
young
option
council
gave
us
direction,
as
you
know,
to
look
at
Beecroft
as
an
option
so
about
the
network
connectivity
in
that
area.
So
this
study
fulfills
the
requirement
of
the
cycling
Network
pen
to
look
at
cycling
connectivity
in
this
area
and
that's.
R
R
E
Speaker
mr.
Devere
maker
earlier
asked
some
questions
regarding
transit
on
Yonge
and
how
transform
young
would
impact
it,
and
we
heard
some-
you
know
very
very
concerning
answers
from
TTC
I'd
phrase
saying
that
bunching
would
be
a
problem
and
they
express
concerns
could
could
transportation.
Please
respond
to
those
concerns
and
perhaps
educate
us
on
on
how
that
fits
into
the
big
picture.
Absolutely.
R
Counselor
through
the
speaker,
we
we
understand
that
approximately
2,200
buses
a
day
come
in
and
out
of
the
Finch
TTC
and
yrt
bus
station
and
a
good
portion
of
those
are
going
northbound
on
Yonge
to
serve
routes
in
York
Region,
go
transit
routes
or
or
TTC
routes
north
of
Finch.
The
transform
young
alternative
includes
a
bus
only
lane
between
the
Pemberton
exit
and
up
to
the
northerly
limit
of
the
study
area,
which
would
serve
a
great
deal
of
the
buses
going
northerly
out
of
the
Finch
station.
R
We
understand
the
TTC
for
their
concerns
about
buses
coming
south
from
Finch
fish
right
from
the
Hendon
Bishop,
which
is
the
Street
just
north
of
Finch
in
to
the
Finch
station
as
well,
and
what
we
have
said
is
that,
through,
depending
on
what
option
council
directed
through
detailed
design,
we
could
certainly
address
some
of
those
concerns
through
additional
transit
priority
measures,
additional
sections
of
bus,
only
Lane
and
those
sorts
of
things.
I'm.
E
R
A
speaker
I
think
these
are
not
fully
addressed
concerns,
but
we
certainly
have
addressed
the
northbound
movement
out
of
the
Finch
station,
using
a
bus,
only
languages
included
in
the
transform
young
design
from
the
Pemberton
exit
up
to
Hendon
Bishop,
and
we
have
opportunities
to
review
other
improvements
through
detailed
design.
That
would
add
more
address
to
DC's.
Southbound
concerns.
Okay,.
E
Q
T
You
very
much
my
first
question
is
to
the
general
manager
of
transportation
I'm.
Looking
at
page
20
of
your
report,
that's
the
page
that
I
believe
councillor
de
berry
maker
was
relying
on
for
his
questions
in
it.
It
shows
the
comparative
travel
times
for
transform
young
and
the
enhanced
young
transform
Beecroft
options
in
the
year.
2021
is
am
I.
Reading
this
correct
the
change
to
travel
times
for
cars,
and
therefore
buses
are
the
same
with
both
options
through.
R
T
P
Speaker
there
is
a
series
of
reports
that
the
City
of
Toronto
has
adopted
concurring
with
the
extension
of
the
Yonge
subway
to
Richmond
Hill,
in
conjunction
with
simultaneously
improving
the
routing
the
relief
line
in
play,
so
that
facility
is
somewhere
around
twenty
thirty
one
or
beyond.
Also
there
is
some
recent
discussion
about
the
Richmond
Hill
goal
line
and
improvements
that
might
be
made
available
there
should
the
ownership
change
and
revert
to
go
and.
T
R
T
T
In
2021,
when
the
travel
times
of
the
two
options
are
the
same,
we
wouldn't
we
effective
and
you
were
consulted
in
the
development
of
these
numbers
you're,
projecting
that
whether
we
go
Beecroft
or
whether
we
go
transform
young
the
impact
on
traffic
in
that
section
is
the
same.
Is
that
correct
impact.
T
And
I
appreciate
that
and
I've
heard
an
answer
from
the
general
manager
that
we're
going
to
consider
that
in
the
final
design,
I'm,
referring
specifically
to
the
answers
you
gave
councillor
de
bear
maker
where
he
was
talking
about
the
additional
30
seconds,
and
you
answered
that
the
additional
30
seconds
would
impact
thousands
of
bus
riders
and
lengthen
their
trips.
Did
you
not
that's.
T
B
T
B
F
Speaker
I
am
profoundly
insulted
that
a
member
of
this
council
would
stop
a
member
of
staff
from
completing
her
sentence.
We
should
not
be
bullying
staff.
We
should
not
be
badgering
staff.
We
should
let
our
professional
staff
finish
their
sentences.
I
would
ask
that
you
will
permit
the
staff
to
finish
her
response
so
that
we
can
learn
the
truth,
the
full
truth
and
nothing,
but
the
truth.
A
T
A
Put
it
on
hold
counselor
perks,
I
was
a
little
bit
distracted.
I
was
speaking
to
the
clerk
at
the
time
to
apologize
for
that
so,
council
perks.
Please
allow
the
staff
to
finish
answering
the
question,
so
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
stuff
and
have
them
complete
their
answer.
Please
and
I
will
put
your
time
on
hold
through.
L
The
speaker,
the
options,
both
options,
as
explained
by
my
colleague
from
transportation
services
for
traffic
traveling
through
the
corridor,
would
be
the
same
in
terms
of
delays.
However,
if
we
go
to
transform
young
and
we're
diverting
traffic
along
bishop
to
go
to
Doris,
it
will
have
an
increased
delay
on
buses
that
are
going
to
do
the
South
to
Eastern.
A
T
Q
T
You
now,
in
terms
of
like
we've,
already
heard
from
you,
that
the
modeling
here
for
2031
does
not
include
an
assumption
about
building
any
other
transit
to
serve
this
population,
even
though
we
a
council
have
endorsed
them.
Do
you
predict
that
any
of
that
would
having
those
options
available
together
with
narrowing
Yonge
Street
would
result
any
of
that
result
in
a
mode
change
through.
R
The
speaker,
certainly
when
the
assumptions
of
the
Yonge
subway
line,
are
put
into
this
scenario.
You
would
see
shift
towards
the
usage
of
that
line,
particularly
from
your
region.
We
have
not
assumed
modal
shift
from
vehicles
to
cycling
as
a
choice
in
this
model
either,
and
so
we
wanted
to
be
conservative
by
not
assuming
that.
So
that
should
be
noted
as
well
is.
T
Q
A
M
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker
and
I
would
like
to
just
give
a
nice
warm
welcome
to
the
Duke
of
Connaught
public
school
kid,
let's
from
grade
five
studying
civics
and
they're
right
here
in
the
audience,
and
they
are
looking
to
us
to
build
a
better
City
and
there
are
junior
counselors
for
counselors
future
councils.
I
get
those
things
welcome.
M
G
Thank
you.
A
madam
three
key
speaker
through
you
to
staff
I,
haven't
heard
a
lot
of
talk
about
EMS,
fire
and
police
response
times.
If
this
plan
goes
forward,
or
at
least
if
the
Yonge
Street
option
goes
forward,
you've
had
a
lot
of
public
consultation,
we're
concerns
raised
about
about
first
responders
response
times
and
how
they'll
be
affected
by
lane
closures
on
young
and
potentially
diverting
those
vehicles
to
as
bathra
sorbet
view
through.
Q
You,
madam
Speaker,
we
had
approximately
five
meetings
with
Fire,
EMS
and
police
over
the
course
of
the
span
of
doing
study
based
on
their
feedback.
We
have
identified
a
number
of
mitigation
measures,
including
the
addition
of
rolled
curbs
that
would
allow
EMS
vehicles
or
other
vehicles
to
get
out
of
the
way
of
EMS
vehicles,
especially
with
the
cycle
tracks
on
on
Yonge
Street.
Q
We
have
had
conversations
with
EMS
about
how
to
manage
any
perceived
increase
in
response
times.
They
have
very
robust
data
collection
that
they've
brought
online
in
the
last
year,
and
so
we
will
continue
to
work
with
them
through
detailed
design
to
ensure
that
we
are
able
to
mitigate
potential
increases
in
response
time.
Certainly.
G
In
Ward
10
to
the
west
of
this
study,
area
and
parts
of
Yonge
Street
from
Sheppard
north
have
some
of
the
highest
concentration
of
seniors
in
the
city,
vulnerable
seniors,
who
rely
on
emergency
services,
were
they
were
they
consulted
about
the
fear
or
the
risk
of
not
being
able
to
get
to
a
hospital
in
time?
Should
there
be
an
emergency.
Q
R
Conferring
with
staff
there
were
some
individuals
who
raised
that
concern.
I.
Think
the
emphasis
on
the
fact
that
there
are
14
lanes
in
this
general
in
this
general
network
on
on
men,
arterial
roads
to
serve
the
the
high-rise
towers
of
provide
access
for
emergency
services
to
get
people
to
their
needed
care.
G
Q
Q
G
Just
very
quickly,
it's
my
understanding
that
public
realm
projects
of
this
nature
that
take
place
in
other
major
cities
have
mature
transit,
in
other
words,
far
more
mature
than
us.
They
have
underground
subways
in
which
they're
able
to
divert
a
lot
of
commuters.
We
don't
have
that
I
mean
I'm,
talking
Chicago
in
New
York,
where
they've
done
public
realm
projects
that
that
trigger
lane
closures
are
cities
that
are
prepared
for
that
kind
of
pivot
or
a
cultural
change.
We
we
don't
have
that
at
at
Yonge
and
Finch.
Do
we
well.
Q
I
think
that
through
you,
madam
speaker,
one
of
the
one
of
the
driving
factors
of
putting
this
plan
together
was
the
fact
that
so
many
trips
happened
on
the
young
subway
line
and
that
that
that
facility
is
only
hopefully
going
to
be
expanded
into
the
future.
And
we
really
did
focus
in
addition
to
access
to
the
Finch
station
to
pedestrian
access
to
get
more
people
more
easily
to
their
subway
trip,
which,
as
we
know,
is
a
critical
link
in
the
transit
network.
So.
G
Just
very
quickly,
I
guess
on
Thursday
will
be
the
44th
anniversary
of
the
opening
of
the
fence
station.
So
the
good
people
of
Toronto
been
wandering
for
44
years
when
TTC
is
going
to
build
one
station
north
to
take
all
that
Finch
chaos,
the
parking,
the
go,
the
traffic
and
move
it
right
up
to
the
municipal
boundary
and
now.
G
L
You
just
to
follow
up
on
through
the
speaker
just
to
follow
up
on
what
the
deputy
city
manager
spoke
of
earlier
and
that
we
are
actively
working
now
on
a
possible
extension
of
the
young
line,
which
would
divert
some
of
those
buses
from
French
station
to
station
further,
not
like
Steel's
and
commerce.
So,
if
all
goes
well
it
by
2031,
the
weed
should
see
some
improvements
in
that
area.
Thank.
K
You,
madam
Speaker,
my
first
question
relates
to,
if
I
understood
correctly,
the
answers
to
option
one,
that
is
to
say,
transform
young
I,
heard
that
one
of
the
consequences
of
electing
that
option,
notwithstanding
that
it's
it
has
great
benefits
from
the
public
realm
perspective,
is
that
there
is
spillover
or
of
travel
of
vehicles
onto
either
Bathurst
or
baby.
Well.
Is
that
correct.
Q
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
when
we
looked
at
the
network,
we
did
consider
the
access
and
capacity
on
bath.you
and
Bay
Bay,
Bay,
View
and
Bathurst.
We
looked
most
closely,
I
would
say
at
the
capacity
on
doors
and
Beecroft
which
were
designed
the
ring
roads
to
take
in
extra
capacity
across
those
14
lanes
for
the
North
York
Center,
but.
K
But,
notwithstanding
that
they're
not
operating
at
full
capacity,
did
anybody
bother
consulting
people
who
may
own
property
on
those
streets
that
look
forward
to
perhaps
developing
their
properties,
understanding
that
their
redevelopments
would
and
would
in
fact
require
transportation
capacity
now.
So,
if
we're
taking
away
capacity
from
those
property
owners,
did
anybody
bother
telling
them
that
hey?
You
might
have
an
interest
here?
The.
Q
K
Q
K
Right
so
one
of
the
well,
the
key
objective
from
what
I
understand
for
transform
young
is
that
there
is
a
real
emphasis
on
safety
people
being
able
to
cross
pedestrians
being
able
to
cross
on
an
east-west
axis.
My
point
is:
could
that
not
also
be
accomplished
by
perhaps
changing
the
duration
time
of
signal
lights
to
allow
people
to
walk
across
through.
Q
You
you
can
certainly
modify
signal
lengths,
as
you
know,
in
any
kind
of
network,
there's
always
implications
when
you
modify
signals,
but
yes,
we
could
certainly
address
the
signal
timing.
The
the
difference
is,
though,
that
you,
you
have
a
wider
pavement
width
to
cross
when
you're
crossing
over
six
lanes,
as
opposed
to
four
lengths
of
the
exposure
for
pedestrians
crossing,
that
Street
is
going
to
be
less
and
transform
young
than
it
is
going
to
be
an
enhancer.
You
also.
K
Q
K
Q
The
the
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
the
the
improvement
in
the
public
realm,
is
not
just
width
which
is
critical
and
important.
It's
also
consistency
and
application
of
better
design
treatments,
but
in
terms
of
the
traffic
traveling
through
the
area,
as
we
have
modeled
it
using
that
14
lanes.
We
believe
that
the
impact
of
traffic
through
that
area
is
going
to
be
negligible
or
about
a
minute
of
increase
over
time
in
our
twenty
twenty
one
and
twenty
thirty
one
model
a
so.
K
If
I
can
use
this
language,
perhaps
you
can
tell
me
which
option?
Are
you
really
recommending
and
the
language
I'm
going
to
use?
Is
there
is
a
solution
that
maximizes
the
public
realm?
There
is
also
solution
that
optimizes
public
realm.
So
are
we
looking
for
a
solution
that
maximizes,
or
rather
an
optimal
solution
that
basically
considers
the
interest
of
multiple
stakeholders
through.
K
Q
Through
you,
the
the
other
issue
that
I
think
is
very
important
here
is
that
the
access
to
the
subway
into
the
transit
line
is
critical
and
is
being
accessed
largely
in
the
study
area,
south
of
Sheppard,
sorry
south
of
Finch
to
shepherd
by
people
walking
to
the
transit
facility
and
so
enhanced
public
realm
has
always
been
at
the
core
of
this
program,
not
only
from
employment
center.
No.
A
H
Q
Certainly
everything
that
we
have
done
since
we
launched
vision,
zero
has
been
public
and
accessible
to
everybody.
In
the
city
we
had
a
number
of
boards
that
went
out
at
meetings
talking
about
impacts
and
crashes
related
to
people
largely
pedestrians
in
the
in
the
study
area,
and
then
we
also
talked
about
a
number
of
the
improvements
that
were
being
proposed
in
terms
of
shortening
crossing
distances,
adding
signals
along
long
blocks,
expanding
the
median
as
ways
to
enhance
and
support
pedestrian
safety.
How.
Q
H
Q
H
Q
A
Q
Through
you,
I
have
somewhat
of
a
short
short
timers
added
attitude
about,
or
at
least
previously
I
don't
know.
Typically,
we
do
it
because
there
costs
very
costly
in
terms
of
a
street
design
and
reconstruction
of
this
magnitude.
The
street
longevity
is
usually
about
50
years.
It's
not
that
we
would
not
make
modifications
to
streets,
but
a
major
reconstruction
major
reasons.
We
typically
build
them
for
about
50
years,
I've.
I
I
Q
That
that
was
our
intention
in
the
work
that
we
undertook
through
this
EA
was
to
address
not
only
the
land-use
plans
that
came
out
of
the
Official
Plan,
but
also
to
implement
Complete
Streets,
enhance
and
implement
recommendations
of
the
ten-year
cycling
plan,
as
well
as
the
congestion
management
plan.
So.
I
E
You,
madam
Speaker,
through
to
the
general
manager
I,
heard
something
interesting.
We
were
talking
about
travel
times
a
moment
ago,
and
you
mentioned
that
the
the
travel
times
were
based
on
14
lanes.
If
I
got
that
correct
that
the
modeling
look
at
14
lanes
of
traffic,
which
I'm
assuming
includes
Doris
and
Beecroft
as
part
of
the
system.
E
E
R
E
Okay,
that's
very
important
over
to
you
to
the
to
the
chief
planner.
The
North
York
secondary
plan
is
very
prominent
in
this
report.
In
the
transportation
section
in
in
subsection,
4.2
B,
it
talks
about
acquiring
additional
lands
for
the
widening
of
arterial
roads.
Providing
capacity
for
the
development
is
that
the
four
meters
that
we've
been
accumulating
along
Yonge
Street
through.
S
S
Believe
they
are
I
I,
believe
some
of
those
listed
have
been
implemented
and
transportation
can
comment
on
others.
I
would
just
comment,
however,
that
that
policy
framework
is
20
years
old,
okay,
and
it
is
it's
warranted
for
review,
given
the
type
of
planning
that
we're
doing
now
to
drive
the
city
in
a
different
direction
with
our
with
our
modality
and
our
other
mixed-use
land-use
path.
E
E
You
someone
talked
about
York,
Region
and
I
was
wondering
a
basic
question:
is:
are
there
three
lanes
from
York
region
all
the
way
down
to
401
and
in
fact,
three
lanes
in
either
direction
on
Yonge
Street,
all
the
way
down
to
that
point
and
beyond
I
think
it
goes
down
to
York
Mills?
Is
that
correct?
So
what
what's
people
have
been
talking
about
some
change
in
New
York
Region?
Could
someone
mention
what
that
is
north
of
steals,
I'm.
E
E
E
Implementation
of
a
subway-
and
we
don't
know
when
that's
going
to
be,
but
it's
quite
some
time:
okay,
I,
guess
one
less
like
a
time
for
just
a
little
bit.
Can
someone
tell
me
what
percentage
of
the
properties
along
this
Yonge
Street
area
have
acquired
that
4
meter
setback,
which
would
provide
public
realm
in
addition
to
the
existing
2
meter
sidewalk?
S
E
The
last
thing,
I
guess
the
the
new
proposed
one
of
the
designs,
and
there
talks
about
increasing
the
width
of
the
center
island
from
the
existing
3
meters,
because
I
measured
that
on
an
eye
view
to
4.5.
Why
would
we
put
public
realm
onto
the
center
Island,
as
opposed
to
the
sidewalks,
where
everyone
talks
about
wanting
additional
space
and-
and
in
that
with
that
question
is,
is
what's
that.
E
A
So
please,
if
you
want
the
staff
to
answer
your
questions,
try
to
make
your
questions
very
short,
because
it's
hard
for
the
staff
to
comment.
If
your
questions
are
two
minutes
long
I'd
appreciate
it
before
we
continue.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
former
councillor
norm
Gardner
in
the
council
chambers,
welcome.
O
A
O
R
R
O
I
just
can
we
examine
the
chart
on
page
20,
just
a
little
bit
more
I
know
we
got
into
it
a
second
ago,
because
the
the
conclu
that's
in
the
written
badi
doesn't
seem
to
support
the
difference
in
time
from
from
one
option
transform
young
to
the
other
option.
It
suggests
that
that
there's
one
preferred
option
over
another
with
respect
to
the
movement
of
vehicles
and
they
seem
rather
similar.
R
Through
the
speaker,
the
the
options
are
very
similar
to
the
do-nothing
scenario
because
of
of
traffic
being
generated
in
the
area
with
growth,
we
we
would
see
the
the
traffic
travel
times
change
anyway,
and
so
in
the
2021
version.
Both
options
perform
the
same
with
regard
to
general
traffic
along
this
section
of
the
corridor
and
in
2031
we
project
that
the
enhance
young
option
will
perform
at
a
30
seconds
better
than
the
increase
on
transform.
O
Q
Do
you
the
build
out
of
especially
employment
center
in
North?
York
is
well
supported
by
an
enhanced
public
realm
and
as
well
as
pedestrian
safety
and
connectivity
to
the
transit
network
and
a
vibrant
streetscape,
and
so
in
as
much
as
transform
young
enhances
those
options
beyond
what
the
enhanced
young
option
has.
Yes,
that
would
be
supporting
so.
O
Q
O
R
Correct
counts:
are
these:
they
enhance
young
transform
the
craft
option
in
the
report
includes
four
lanes
on
Beecroft
for
the
entire
length,
including
north
of
Finch.
If
you
have
a
not
you,
don't
increase
the
number
of
lanes
on
on
Beecroft
from
the
existing
three
or
two
lanes
for
most
of
it
north
of
Finch.
You
can
reduce
the
cost
by
accommodating
fully
separated
cycle
tracks
to
meet
the
Finch
Hydra
quarter.
Now.
O
O
R
O
O
R
The
speaker
that
reference
was
in
terms
of
the
construction
timeframe
construct
reconstructing
two
roads.
We
would
take
between
three
and
four
years,
whereas
we
constructing
one
road
being
Yonge
Street
would
would
take
between
one
and
two.
So
the
the
reference
to
disruption
is
earth
with
regrets
to
the
construction
disruption.
Q
You
an
option
that
created
a
four-lane
section,
which
is
what
is
proposed
in
transform
young,
would
be
better
at
connectivity
about
pedestrian
safety,
about
creating
a
vibrant
center,
and
so
that
is
why,
in
terms
of
how
both
options,
both
viable
options,
we've
stacked
them
up
against
our
criteria.
We've
recommended
transformer.
So.
T
J
J
J
The
generally
speaking
does
having
a
six-lane
Road,
where
the
905
meets
the
City
of
Toronto.
Does
that
decrease
traffic
congestion
in
the
City
of
Toronto?
Not
typically?
So
it's
not
something.
We
shouldn't
be
trying
to
have
six
lanes
at
all
of
the
major
roads
where
the
the
905
meets
for
one
six
in
order
to
decrease
congestion
through.
Q
You,
the
the
expansion
of
roadway,
is
impactful
and,
as
you
know,
takes
up
land
right
so
in
in
in
a
scenario
where
you
have
six
lanes
that
are
managed.
So
might
you
might
have
surface
transit
lanes
or
you
might
have
cycling
lanes
to
manage
the
demand
for
the
land
use,
but
in
just
terms
of
six
general
purpose,
travel
lanes,
not
typically
what
we
would
look
at
so.
J
There
are,
would
it
be
safe
to
say
that
in
the
1950s
60s,
even
the
70s
people
thought
that
the
way
to
relieve
traffic
congestion
was
to
make
more
lane.
Fifty
years
later,
sixty
years
later,
our
thinking
has
changed.
That
is
not
the
way
to
ease
traffic
congestion.
The
way
to
ease
traffic
congestion
is
to
have
complete
streets,
better
transit,
better
cycling
and
pedestrian
routes.
Would
that
be
correct,
correct.
Q
J
J
So
it
looks
to
me
like,
if
you
did,
we
have
to
do
the
Avondale
to
young.
We
have
to
do
to
Shepherd.
We
have
to
do
the
Yonge
Street,
so
those
just
those
two
together
gonna
be
about
four
years.
If
we
add
Beecroft,
am
I
correct
that
we're
looking
at
potentially
at
leat
minimum
of
four
years
and
up
to
six
years
of
traffic
chaos
caused
by
construction.
Would
that
be
correct?
We.
J
H
R
The
speaker,
we
have
gotten
to
the
point
of
30%
design
on
both
alternatives,
they're
at
an
equal
stage
of
design
that
additional
design
work
needs
to
take
place
for
about
another
year
to
get
it
to
a
tendered
package.
The
transform
young
alternative
would
take
one
to
two
years
of
construction,
inclusive
of
the
Dorris
extension,
which
is
part
of
this
package
as
the
service
road
extension
in
the
area.
The
enhanced
young
transform
Beecroft
would
be
additional
two
years
because.
H
R
H
Q
H
Q
Q
H
Q
H
Traffic,
you
told
you
were
telling
me
about
capacity
on
Bayview
and
on
Bathurst
Street,
well,
I
Drive
on
Bayview
in
the
morning
and
from
highway
401.
If
I
Drive
up
it,
I
Drive
up
past
and
press
I,
Drive
up
past
Finch,
I
Drive
up
past
comer
and
it
is
bumper-to-bumper
every
morning.
So
where
is
the
capacity?
Because
that
is
the
biggest
complaint
that
the
residents
have
there
is?
There
is
no
more
ability
for
them
to
get
out
to
Bayview
Avenue
and
use
it
in
the
morning
rush
hours
to.
R
H
The
issue
is
rush
hour
in
fairness,
madam
Speaker,
okay,
so
I'll
just
hang
around
and
dance
council
Annunziata
I
was
trying
if
my
time's
been
running
off
now
for
nothing
I'm
trying
to
get
an
answer
to
a
question.
It's
gotten
very
noisy
in
the
room.
It's
a
very
simple
question:
I!
Don't
care
what
happens
at
midnight
I!
Don't
care
what
happens
at
5:00
in
the
morning
or
12:00
noon.
Rush
hour
capacity
see
how
much
capacity
G.
Can
you
tell
me
today
that
there
is
on
Bathurst
on
Leslie
on
Bayview
on
Yonge
Street?
R
H
R
Q
You
the
model
councillor,
shiner,
that
we
that
we
developed
was
looking
at
the
impacts
to
congestion
from
these
two
alternatives,
not
including
general
growth
in
capacity.
So
your
experience
on
Bayview
and
Bathurst
I
have
no
doubt
is
an
accurate
experience
and
I
believe
the
rush-hour
on
many
of
our
major
corridors
is
quite
quite
where
most
of
those
treats
are
at
capacity.
We
can
manage
some
of
that
through
signals
and
timing
and
other
traditional
tools
with
the
growth
in
the
city.
Having
better
transit
access
and
more
alternatives
is
going
to
be
our
be
our
plan.
Moving.
H
A
Q
N
R
Through
the
speaker,
both
options
allow
for
through
detailed
design,
to
be
able
to
accommodate,
will
trans
loading
and
unloading
along
the
corridor.
So
certainly
the
the
concerns
of
the
accessibility
in
terms
of
drop-offs
can
be
addressed.
What
we
see
in
terms
of
accessible
movement
along
the
corridor
is
an
increase
in
inaccessibility
for
both
options,
because
the
existing
surface
of
the
sidewalk
is
broken.
It's
in
disrepair,
and
so
our
main
objective
here
is
to
improve
the
public
realm
by
making
that
smooth
and
which
improves
accessibility
in
both
options.
Fair.
N
Enough,
but
when
people
are
getting
off
wheel,
trans
or
off
buses,
they
are
being
offloaded
into
the
bike
lane.
As
my
understanding,
how
do
we
is
there?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
is
there
additional
signage
being
introduced?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
cyclists
understand
that
there's
a
caution
when
this
process
occurs
and
is
it
how
safe
is
it
through.
R
N
R
R
The
speaker
I'll,
give
you
an
example
on
the
Wellesley
cycle
track
where
the
the
wheel
trans
vehicle
comes
directly
to
the
curb,
and
the
cyclist
is
able
to
go
around
the
that
with
wheel
trans
vehicle.
Doing
the
loading
Sherbourne
has
other
examples
where
there's
a
lay-by
and
wheel
trans
uses
those
facilities
to
come
in
away
from
the
the
traffic
in
the
true
lane
and
do
the
loading
and
loading
unloading
in
some
cases
like
lists
can
go
to
the
right.
In
other
cases,
they
exit
the
cycle
track
and
go
around
on
the
left.
B
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
have
a
motion
which
I
would
ask
if
the
clerk
will
put
it
up
and
it
addresses
something
that's
been
on
the
minds
of
us
all,
and
certainly
mine
too,
and
I
want
to
make
it
abundantly
clear
through
this
a
proposed
amendment
that
we
would
not
only
conduct
an
immediate
safety
review
of
the
existing
youngstreet
as
it
were,
to
look
at
every.
You
know
a
possible
improvement
we
could
make,
including,
but
not
limited
to
crosswalk
time.
B
B
Both
do
that
both
of
the
options
that
are
before
us
today,
the
option
that
I
support
ensures
at
and
the
motion
is
meant
to
make
sure
that
it
is
the
case
that
pedestrian
safety
measures
are
implemented
and,
finally,
that
motorists
and
public
transit
vehicles,
public
transit
vehicles,
are
able
to
move
by
maintaining
the
lanes
of
traffic
that
we
have.
They
may
be
narrower.
They
may
be
different,
but
the
bottom
line
is
that
they
will
be
there
and
I
found
very
interesting.
B
The
discussion
of
transit
vehicles
and
the
fact
that
I'm
not
sure
that
enough
was
made
of
that
in
the
report
based
on
what
came
out
in
the
debate
this
morning,
because
you
have
tens
of
thousands
of
people
literally
more
than
a
thousand
buses
I
think
than
ever.
I
wrote
it
down
somewhere
here,
but
about
1,300
bus
trips
per
day
that
are
going
to
be
affected
by
this,
and
people
can
quibble
about
they're
affected
only
by
the
part
at
the
north
or
the
south
or
the
east
or
the
west.
B
Those
were
the
words
that
I
used
I,
believe
this
option
produces
bike
lanes
that
are
safe,
separated
and
sensible,
and
actually
there's
quite
a
bit
of
support
for
the
notion
of
putting
the
bike
lanes
on
Beecroft,
because
it
just
makes
sense.
It
is
actually
a
place.
I
would
argue
that
I
won't
say
that
I
have
the
expertise
to
determine
this,
but
I
would
think.
There's
common
sense
reason
to
believe
this
could
be
safer
on
a
street
like
V
Croft
than
elsewhere,
but
fine,
even
if
it
isn't
it
is.
B
As
the
general
manager
herself
said
now,
I've
been
looking
for
support
for
the
notion
of
bike
lanes
on
Abbey
Croft
without
reducing
lanes
of
traffic
and
I.
Had
some
emails
telling
me
that
it
was
a
sensible
thing
to
do
and
I
was
looking
for
support
anywhere
I
could
find
it
and
I
found
it
in
the
most
unlikely
place.
B
Where
I
have
here
a
brochure
that
talked
about
the
person
writing
it
says:
I've
initiated
a
plan
for
one-way
cycling
routes
on
Doris
and
B
crop
without
reducing
lanes
of
traffic,
the
person
stood
for
office
on
the
basis
of
that
now
would
that
be?
Let's
see,
let's
do
multiple
choice.
Might
that
be
Giorgio
Mammalia
could
be,
might
it
be
Denzil
men
and
WOM,
or
is
it
possible
it
could
be
councillor
john
Fillion,
so
you
know
this
just
says
to
me,
madam
Speaker,
that
well
everybody
is
entitled
to
change
their
view
and
change
their
perspective.
B
The
fact
is
that
this
is
a
legitimate
option,
and
that's
all
that
I,
you
know
sort
of
put
forward
here
and
the
vote
will
be
what
the
vote
is,
and
people
will
vote
for
and
for
the
options.
But
I
think
both
are
things
that
are
legitimate
options
and
and
putting
bike
lanes
on
Beecroft
mean
we
get
bike
lanes
that
are
safe
and
dedicated
and
in
a
sensible
place.
This
is
one
of
the
most
congested
places
in
the
city.
B
I
asked
for
a
list
and
I
didn't
prejudice
where
it
was
or
who
did
the
calculation
or
how
they
did
it,
and
they
came
back
to
me,
our
city
staff,
saying
that
this
was
one
of
the
most
congested
places
in
the
whole
city,
one
of
the
ten
most
congested
places,
and
this
isn't
just
about
cars.
It's
about
people,
doing
business,
commerce
and
trucks,
but
it's
also,
as
we
heard
this
morning,
about
transit
vehicles.
In
the
end,
it's
about
moving
people
and
I
agree
with
those
who
say
and
I've
tried
to
to
to
follow
this.
B
That's
invading
the
city,
they're
people
that
are
coming
here
and
lots
of
people
are
driving
around
inside
the
city,
and
so
I
simply
proceed
from
the
premise
that
we
can't
afford
to
ignore
those
people.
You
know
as
we
go
about
making
our
plans
and
so
I
would
just
say,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
that
I've
tried
to
advance
a
position
that
it's
consistent
with
what
I
believe
my
responsibility
is
here,
which
is
that
I
have
to
represent
a
balance
of
all
interests
and
serve
the
public
interest
at
the
same
time.
B
But
that
includes
making
sure
that
we
address
the
needs
of
pedestrians
of
the
public
realm
over
all
of
businesses
of
pedestrians
of
car
drivers,
yes
of
transit
users
of
cyclists
and
I.
Think
this
option
allows
us
to
move
forward
and
do
something
that
will
address
the
concerns
in
a
positive
way
of
all
of
those
people
all
of
those
people
in
the
best
interests
of
the
City
of
Toronto
taken
as
a
whole,
and
so
that
is
why
I
urge
you
to
support
my
motion
on
safety
to
make
sure
that's
abundantly
clear.
B
J
B
Aware
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
that
there's
been
quite
a
campaign
on
to
have
people
talk
about
that,
but
I'm
also
aware
of
the
fact
that,
as
we
will
have
to
do
with
many
streets
in
strong
in
Toronto,
where
we
won't
be
reducing
the
number
of
lanes
that
there
are
ways
in
which-
and
my
motion
is
meant
to
facilitate
that
there
are
ways
in
which
we
can
make
this
street
much
safer
in
its
present
form,
because
this
construction,
my
dad,
madam
Speaker,
is
not
scheduled
to
begin
for
some
time.
Nor
is
this
matter
budgeted.
B
So
while
we
sort
all
of
that
out,
there's
plenty
of
time
to
make
immediate
improvements
which
I
want
to
see
made
in
Yonge
Street
in
the
area
we're
talking
about
so
as
to
cut
the
accidents
and
fatalities
and
so
on
to
zero,
and
there
are
ways
I
believe
with
the
new
construction
if
it
stays
at
six
lanes
of
traffic,
that
we
can
make
it
much
safer
and
make
the
necessary
improvements
through
the
means.
I
mentioned
narrowing
lanes
using
signals
using
signal
timing
and
so
on.
You.
J
B
Believe
the
measures
that
we
take
here
on
safety
will
make
sure,
as
we
should
be.
Even
if
we
weren't
touching
this
street,
we
were
not
touching
this
street.
The
measures
that
I
talked
about
in
this
motion
that
I
moved
as
an
amendment
here,
will
ensure
I
hope
that
we
will
address
those
questions.
Let's.
J
Go
to
the
public,
you
talked
about
the
public.
Is
there
a
single
ratepayer,
homeowner
association
leader,
that's
in
favor
of
Beecroft
and
I
know
they
asked
for
a
meeting
with
you.
I,
don't
know
whether
that
happened
I
believe
it
didn't.
But
are
you
aware
of
any
community
leader
that
supports
Beecroft
I.
B
Said
that
I
know
that
you're
very
familiar
that
and
I
know
you
spend
a
lot
of
time
with
them
and
I
respect
that
you
know
talking
to
them
about
this.
I
would
just
say
to
you
that
I
don't
think
that
is
the
measure
of
either
what's
right
to
do.
Nor
is
it
the
measure
of
what
the
public
generally
think
about
these
things.
The
fact
that
these
people
in
these
organizations,
the
presidents
and
so
on,
have
spoken
up
to
you
about
it.
J
Your
rationale
is
that
it
has
quite
a
lot
of
support
so
I,
it's
it.
You
can't
name
a
single
organization
that
supports
it,
a
single
homeowners
association
that
supports
it.
Can
you
name
this?
A
single
urban
thinker
like
the
group
that
has
come
forward
that
opposes
it?
Is
there
anybody
missing
from
that
list?
Is
there
you
seem
to
want
to
dismiss
that
group
like
David
Crombie's,.
B
Green
Baker-
please
don't
misunderstand
through
to
the
member
I
I,
don't
mean
to
dismiss
anybody's
part
of
you.
I
specifically
said
that
I
respect
the
fact
that
those
people
have
spoken
up
and
said
what
they
did,
including
people
who
are
very
long-standing
friends
of
mine
and
in
politics
and
in
government.
We
have
disagreements
on
some
of
these
kinds
of
things,
but
I
also
don't
think
you
can
dismiss
the
fact
that
I
have,
as
the
mayor
and
I
sit
here
as
one
vote
out
of
the
45.
B
That
will
cast
a
vote,
but
I
am
the
mayor
and
I
have
citywide
responsibilities
and
I
have
the
responsibility
as
well
to
try
to
support
things
that
I
think
are
balanced
in
their
consideration
of
all
the
different
groups
that
I
have
a
responsibility
to
represent.
So
I
don't
dismiss
those
people,
but
nor
do
I
say
that,
because
they
said
they
had
a
particular
view
on
this.
B
J
B
But
when
you
take
into
account
the
fact
that
we
can
have
cycling
infrastructure,
public,
realm
improvement,
you
know
and
at
the
same
time
keep
transit
and
other
vehicles
moving
acknowledging
the
reality
that
they're
there
and
they
have
to
move
in
the
interests
of
the
economy,
the
environment,
families
and
a
number
of
other
things,
and
just
in
the
interest
of
balance,
then
I'd
say
to
you.
We
don't
have
on
the
table
some
proposal
to
expand
the
road
to
six
lanes.
B
We
simply
have
on
the
table
thanks
to
this
option
that
I'm
supporting
the
proposal
to
leave
six
lanes
of
traffic
there
at
the
present
time,
put
the
cycling
in
a
place
where
I
think
it'll
be
safer
and
better
and
sensible
and
effective
and
take
safety
measures
to
make
sure
that
pedestrians
are
safer
than
they
are
today.
That
was.
C
Mr.
mayor,
first
of
all,
I'm
supportive
of
our
committees,
recommendations
and
I'm
glad
that
you
are
as
well
and
and
at
that
particular
meeting
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
watched
it
or
not,
but
there
were
a
number
of
community
groups
that
came
forward
completely
opposed
to
what
the
local
councillor
wants
to
do.
Did
you
hear
that
or
no
I
did.
B
I
watched
a
bits
and
pieces
of
it
and
I
heard
about
it
later,
including
I,
would
add
a
group
that
we
haven't
heard
from
when
councillor
Fillion
was
listing
a
three
madam
Speaker.
The
groups
that
had
signed
up
to
support
it
and
I
respect
that
the
business
groups,
which
I
think
are
another
important
element
of
a
lively
Street
in
a
lively
neighborhood
in
a
lively,
City
I.
Think
a
lot
of
them
were.
C
Opposed
to
so
I'm
glad
you
said
that
there's
a
number
of
different
businesses
that
are
afraid
of
what
the
councillors
position
is
going
to
do
to
their
businesses,
and
we
heard
that
loud
and
clear.
Another
one
was
the
former
councillor
for
the
area,
councillor,
Gardner
and
I.
Believe
he's
actually
here
today,
Norman
Gardner's
here
today
to
listen
in
because
he's
completely
opposed
to
this
and
and
I'm
not
sure.
If
you
know
his
level
of
involvement
in
that
particular
community,
but
for
years
he
knew
what
the
issues
were,
and
he
still
does.
B
Again,
I
did
to
see
some
of
his
opposition
at
the
committee
hearings
and
look
I
through
you,
madam
Speaker
I
respect
the
fact
this
is
become
I,
don't
think
it
had
to
be,
but
I
think
it's
become
a
divisive
issue.
I
think
it's
become
sort
of
portrayals
of
black
and
white
I've
tried,
not
even
in
my
remarks
today,
to
portray
it
as
black
and
white
in
terms
of
one
option
being
legitimate
and
the
other
not
legitimate.
I.
C
C
So
for
the
people
that
are
watching
at
least
watching
through
their
computers,
this
council
meeting
today,
the
proposal
that
the
councillor
seems
to
want
to
ram
through
through
is
a
lean
down
the
middle
of
the
road
for
bicycles
and
larger
sidewalks.
That
would
take
over
some
more
Road.
So
where
are
all
those
cars
gonna
go
if
this
councillor
gets
his
way?
Well,.
C
Take
away
the
lanes
of
traffic,
what
happens
in
these
scenarios
is
very
clear
in
my
opinion,
having
been
around
here
for
28
years,
when
you
start
narrowing
roads,
people
do
get
frustrated
and
they
will
use
the
side
road
and
that's
exactly
what's
going
to
happen
in
this
particular
community.
If
this
counselor
counselor
Fillion
gets
his
way.
A
C
B
C
B
Those
with
my
colleagues
on
this
one
I
feel
the
option
that
I'm
supporting
is
better
in
the
context
of
being
a
balanced
approach
to
address
the
concerns
of
all
of
the
different
people.
Cyclists,
pedestrians,
drivers,
transit
vehicles,
whoever
I
forgotten,
I
apologize,
but
I.
Think
that's
what
I'm
doing
and
that's
why
I'm
doing
it.
A
T
Thank
you,
speaker.
I
got
a
couple
of
questions.
I
want
to
go
through
a
little
later,
but
I
just
want
to
pick
up
on
a
point
that
the
mayor
made.
So
you
were
up
there
last
weekend
for
an
event
and
you
drove
down.
Yonge
Street
and
traffic
was
very
bad
right.
That's
correct!
Okay!
So
so
you
believe
that
when
you
after
you
do
this
work,
whatever
option
you
you,
you
choose
that
that
that
drive
would
be
better
I'm.
B
Not
you
know
you,
you
actually
misunderstand
me
through
your
madam
Speaker
I'm,
not
necessarily
arguing
that
the
work
that
will
be
done
that
will
leave
six
lanes
where
there
were
six
lanes
presently
will
make
the
traffic
better.
I
am
arguing
that,
in
order
to
achieve
what
we're
trying
to
get
which
is
better
public
realm,
better,
safer
cycling
lanes
and
so
on,
we
don't
have
to
do
something
that
is
proposed
here
by
the
option.
B
I,
don't
support,
which
is
taking
the
lanes
of
traffic
from
six
to
four,
because
I
do
believe
that
would
make
traffic
worse
and
my
objective
coming
into
office
and
what
I
said
I
was
going
to
try
to
do
on
behalf
of
those
people
who
still
drive
cars
pending
our
construction
of
public
transit,
which
we're
doing
aggressively
was
not
to
make
traffic
worse
than,
if
anything,
to
try
and
make
it
better.
Okay.
So
so.
B
Some
of
the
other
steps
we're
taking
through
your
madam
Speaker
with
this
having
been
identified
as
one
of
the
10
worst
intersections
literally
into
the
north
in
the
whole
city,
we
are
taking
steps.
We
have
taken
steps
with
signal,
timing
and
other
things
to
try
and
make
it
better,
so
I'm
optimistic.
We
can
make
it
better,
but
I
sure
know
that
the
way
it's
not
going
to
get
better
is
to
take
the
number
of
active
lanes
of
traffic
from
two
four.
So
I
certainly
know
that,
but.
T
You
would
agree
that
extending
the
construction
schedule
there
from
two
to
four
potentially
six
years,
stretching
out
sort
of
other
the
congestion
and
the
gridlock
created
by
construction,
that
that's
that
that's
actually
going
to
make
it
worse
row
much
much
longer
period
of
time
than
than
making
it
better
better
than
the
experience
that
you
had
last
Sunday
there,
because
I
traveled
this
stretch
of
street
quite
a
bit
I've
driven
there
I've
ridden
my
bike
there
I've
taken
my
motorcycle.
There
I've
walked
it.
T
B
Madam
Speaker,
if
I,
if
I
understand
the
question,
I
will
concede
the
fact
that
when
you
do
construction
of
any
kind,
whether
you're
going
from
four
to
six
six
to
four
or
three
to
nine,
the
bottom
line
is
that
construction
is
disruptive.
But
you
have
to
sort
of
accept
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
the
option
of
doing
nothing
at
least
not
for
much
longer,
because
the
road
needs
to
be
reconstructed
and
just
like
the
Eglinton
transit,
which
is
causing
terrible
disruption
for
people
and
businesses
along
Eglinton.
B
Hopefully,
the
reward
will
be
worth
at
what
we've
gone
through
in
terms
of
having
a
new
piece
of
transit,
and
in
this
case
we
have
to
rebuild
the
road.
That's
why
we're
having
this
discussion?
We
don't
I
mean
that
the
urgency
is
not
there
save
and
except
for
some
people's
yeah,
but
we
just.
Let
me
finish
if
you
would
that
that
we
have
to
reconstruct
the
road.
So
there
will
be
some
pain
involved
in
that,
as
there
is
in
any
of
our
Civic
construction
projects
that
we
undertake.
So.
T
The
question
that
I
wanted
to
ask
before
I
before
I
got
distracted
by
that
comment
that
somehow
made
sort
of
conjured
this
image
in
my
brain
about
things
getting
better
on
Yonge
Street.
The
question
that
I
did
want
to
ask
you
is
this:
is
that
the
option
that
you
are
now
advocating
I
think
it's
called
enhance
young
and
Beecroft
plus
Beecroft?
It
cost
twenty
million
dollars
more
than
just
the
Yonge
Street
option
that
whatever
they
call
transform
so
so
Yonge
Street
is
51
million
enhance
young.
T
B
First
of
all,
madam
Speaker
I
would
point
out
that
our
officials
indicated
today-
and
this
is
incomplete-
work
that
even
that
number
you
cited
it
has
come
dramatically
down
since
it
was
first
discussed
from
the
22
million
or
whatever
number
you
said
down
quite
a
bit
lower
than
that
I'm
optimistic.
We
can
get
it
lower
still.
But
if
you
looked
at
the
big
picture,
which
is
what
we're
supposed
to
do
here
and
said?
Well,
what
about
the
damage
to
the
economy
of
lost
productivity
from
traffic,
which
we
talk
about
all
the
time?
B
And
nobody
disputes
that?
What
about
the
damage
to
the
environment
of
increased
traffic
jams
that
are
going
on?
What
about
the
lost
family
time
that
people
will
have
if
the
traffic
is
made
worse,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
would
say
you
know
that
maybe
a
little
bit
of
a
premium,
you
might
pay
to
have
what
I
believe
will
be
even
safer
bike
lanes
on
Beecroft.
B
T
B
T
A
B
I
would
point
out
again
one
last
comment
in
answer
to
this
question
that
I
believe
I'm
correct
in
saying,
aside
from
some
money,
that's
available
from
the
federal
government
that
there's
no
money
in
the
budget
for
this
entire
project,
or
very
little
so
I
mean
we've
before
we
start
worrying
about
the
amount.
We
should
be
worrying
about
how
we're
going
to
put
this
into
the
budget
if
it
is
approved
on
either
basis
Frank's
up.
Thank.