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City Council, meeting 10, October 2, 2019 - Part 2 of 2
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A
C
C
You
I
appreciate
that
madam
Speaker
I'm
so
pleased
that
Mayor
Tory
has
proclaimed
today,
October
2nd
as
Toronto's
inaugural
not-for-profits
recognition
Day,
which
is
now
trending
on
Twitter,
not
for
profit
recognition.
Day
is
just
one
of
13
commitments
in
the
City
of
Toronto
made
in
its
for
public
benefit
framework,
a
policy
that
we
at
City
Council,
adopted
in
2017
to
celebrate
and
strengthen
our
working
relationship
with
the
not-for-profit
sector.
I
would
like
to
take
a
moment
to
acknowledge
the
immense
public
benefit
that
the
not-for-profit
sector
brings
to
our
city.
C
These
community-based,
not
nonprofit
organizations
range
from
health
and
social
services
to
civic
engagement,
equity
and
diversity,
Arts
and
Culture,
environmental
protection,
sports
and
recreation
and
much
more,
but
all
have
care
and
service
to
Torontonians
as
a
core
value.
Toronto's
non
profit
sector
is
key
to
Toronto's
economy,
generating
revenues
at
at
least
14
billion
dollars
annually.
Double
the
impact
of
the
tourism
sector
over
8
percent
of
our
GDP
and
providing
meaningful
work
for
thousands
of
people.
It's
a
smart
investment
of
municipal
funds,
nonprofit
organizations
help
tronto
nians
live
life.
C
Well
is
a
key
to
strengthening
democracy
by
holding
decision-makers
accountable
to
all
residents
and
ensuring
that
the
voices
of
those
experiencing
social
barriers
such
as
poverty,
so
to
our
amazing,
not-for-profit
sector.
We
say
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
commitment
to
creative
solutions
in
the
face
of
great
challenges
and
for
your
relentless
belief
in
and
commitment
to
making
Toronto
a
better
place
for
us
all.
When
times
are
tough,
the
not-for-profit
sector
does
not
scale
back,
it
builds
grows
and
creates,
and
for
this
we
thank
you.
D
D
D
A
So
so
it's
a
reopening,
there's
a
motion
to
reopen
and
why
8.4
on
favor
carried-
and
you
want
to
deal
with
both
of
them
together
right.
F
F
G
H
I
F
E
D
B
A
A
A
F
Thank
You
speaker
I'll,
have
some
questions
for
our
representatives
from
TPS
and
then
city
staff.
If
that's
all
right,
I'll
just
begin
to
the
deputy.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
I
just
want
to
get
a
sense
of
funding,
requests
and
commitments
from
other
levels
of
government
for
TPS,
specifically,
so
in
2018
did
we
make
any?
Did
we
receive
any
funding
commitments
or
did
we
make
any
requests
from
either
the
provincial
or
federal
government.
J
K
K
K
F
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
very
much
to
Act
two
social
bellman
and
finance
administration
in
July
of
2018,
we
came
up
with
you,
brought
forward
a
comprehensive
combating
gun,
violence
strategy
with
a
series
of
funding
requests.
What
was
the
total
amount
of
that
strategy?
This
council
adopted
in
2018
through.
F
D
D
You,
madam
Speaker,
my
question
to
do
deputy
Ramar
there,
the
community
police
officer.
We
have
now
they're
going
into
certain
areas.
I'll
take
councillor
Thompson's
area,
for
instance,
where
they're
on
the
ground
they're
on
bikes,
they're,
walking
they're
in
cars,
where
these
officers
coming
from
now,
where
they
being
deployed
from
the
local
division
or.
D
M
M
Actually,
I,
don't
know
what
that
number
is
we're
working
on
as
part
of
a
new
shift
schedule
change
that,
hopefully,
if
the,
if
we
get
the
votes
necessary,
we
can
move
to
this
new
12-hour
shift,
we'll
be
in
a
better
position
to
determine
what
our
actual
numbers
are.
Because
there's
been
a
lot
of,
there's
been
a
lot
of
study
going
into
that.
So
we
know
what
the
calls
is
for
service
are
and
the
demand
record
what
the
demand
requirements
are
all.
D
B
Thank
You
speaker,
first
of
all,
if
the
the
deputy
chief
could
pass
on
the
thank
you
from
my
residence
for
the
incredible
work
done
by
the
men
and
women
of
thirteen
division
and
53
division
and
32
division.
During
this
summer
of
health,
they
wrote
they're
in
the
front
lines
from
May
through
this
I.
Just
please
pass
on
that
thing.
So
no
I'd
like
to
thank
the
police
off
for
doing
a
good
job.
B
And
you
know
we
are
there,
we've
been
told,
because
you
know
the
police.
Frontline
officers
are
very
busy.
How
do
we
find
out
if
a
person
is
going
to
a
bail
hearing?
How
do
we
find
out
if
they
were
given
bail?
How
do
we
find
out
if
they
were
released?
So
we
could
let
the
public
know
because
I've
had
calls
from
people
saying
this
dangerous
person.
I
hear
is
gonna
get
out
on
bail,
I'm
worried
for
my
life.
Can
you
find
out
where
this
alleged
criminal
is?
M
Madam
Speaker,
the
police
service
is
aware
of
everyone
who
receives
bail
and
we
track
those
people
that
are
on
bail
and
that's
part
of
our
bail
compliance
program
when
we're
checking
on
them
for
members
of
the
public
people
on
bail
and
Imperia
in
court.
It's
a
matter
of
public
record,
whether
they're
not
whether
they
receive
bail
or
the
remaining
custody
or
what
their
conditions
are
for
release.
But.
B
In
this
case,
how
does
a
person
who
wants
to
go
to
the
bail
hearing
or
submit
some
information,
because
in
this
case,
I
had
someone
who
wanted
to
go
to
the
bail
hearing
and
tell
the
authorities
that
this
suspect
probably
was
caught
on
video
breaking
entering
and
three
or
four
other
synagogues
in
my
writing
in
my
and
my
ward,
so
he
was
trying
to
get
this
information,
the
police,
and
how
does
he
do
that?
Or
she
do
that?
Well,.
M
B
It's
very
difficult
for
them
to
do
that,
then
we
tried
we
can
get
the
information.
How
do
we
have
a
transparent
system
where
a
citizen
might
be
able
to
know
without
having
to
go
through
the
Ministry
of
the
Attorney
General
having
to
go
to
the
cow
his
office?
How
could
they
find
out
the
status
of
a
bail
hearing.
M
B
B
The
people
in
Lawrence
Heights
in
my
ear
asking
for
have
been
asking
for
15
years
for
a
local
police
office
in
Lawrence
Heights,
because
the
closest
station
is
8.4
kilometres
away,
32
divisions
so
they've
asked.
Can
we
have
a
presence
in
a
community
police
office
in
Lawrence
Heights?
Is
that
possible.
M
B
Don't
you
think
it's
helpful
for
the
community
to
get
to
know
the
officers
face-to-face
know
where
to
go
to
talk
to
them
rather
than
having
a
goal
8.4
kilometres?
Where
most
of
them
don't
have
cars,
and
they
want
to
be
able
to
approach
and
talk
to
police
officers
and
officers
that
are,
they
know
where
to
find
them.
Well,.
M
B
Can't
I
get
a
neighborhood
officer
in
the
TCH,
see
office,
that's
available
to
sit
in
there
a
few
hours
a
day
or
be
outside
inside,
with
their
bikes
and
everything,
but
a
location
in
the
neighborhood,
where
they're
there
and
a
regular
base
I'm,
not
saying
24/7,
but
what's
wrong
with
having
that
for
the
public
to
reassure
them
that
you
can
go
in
your
community
and
find
an
officer.
Okay,.
N
You,
madam
Speaker,
through
you
to
Deputy
Chief.
Thank
you
for
coming,
really
appreciate
that
all
the
hard
work
the
men
in
uniform
men
and
women
in
uniform
are
doing.
I
was
wondering:
do
you
consult
with
other
cities
like
New
York
Detroit,
and
get
lessons
for
what
they
do
right
and
what
they
do
wrong?
Do
we
do
you
have
an
ongoing
program.
N
To
your
stats
that
we
have
received
and
I
will
quote
her
name,
Mary
Annabella,
sorry,
we
were
able
to
come
up
with
the
table.
Now
gun
related
matters.
2004
we've
got
a
number
of
26
and
2018.
We
got
a
number
of
51
that
would
be
a
50%
increase.
Would
I
be
correct?
Yes,
okay,
New,
York
City
that
you
consult
with
their
stats,
show
that
in
2004
they
had
two
thousand
fifty
five
shootings,
and
now
they
dropped
down
to
951,
which
is
a
50%
decrease.
N
M
M
N
N
I
mean
in
2004
we
had
600,
we
had
one
police
officer
from
624
and
I
will
have
one
police
officer
for
767.
Well,
we
have
gone
up
by
you
know.
By
about
a
hundred
and
forty,
they
were
gone
out
from
216
to
234.
Only
by
20
I
mean
is
there
something
that
we
can
see
what
they're
doing
and
probably
bring
it
here,
I
mean:
do
we
need
more
police
officers
on
the
street?
Well,
I
mean
their
numbers
have
not
increased,
but
they
were
able
to
get
the
crime.
I
mean
the
shootings
down.
M
Don't
think,
there's
anything
remarkably
different
that
they're
doing
that
we
are
not
in
many
cases.
What
we
are
doing
is
is
we
are
doing
very,
very
well
you
you
have
to
remember
as
well,
though,
that
technology
has
changed
a
lot,
so
we're
doing
things
much
more
efficiently
now
than
we
were
in
the
past.
Okay,
particularly
our
intelligence-gathering,
fair.
N
N
A
G
M
Had
we've
had
various
forms
of
officers
walking
on
the
beat
for
years,
I
mean
we
were
doing
that
when
I
started
some
39
years
ago.
What
we
have
now
is
an
enhanced
neighborhood
officer
program
or
were
there
receiving
enhanced
training
in
terms
of
interacting
with
people
crisis
mitigation,
the
collection
of
intelligence
to
share
with
the
other
specialized
units
in
the
organization
and
so
we're.
Currently
now
we
have
about
a
hundred
and
twenty
seven
full-time
neighborhood
policing
officers.
Oh.
G
G
M
G
This
additional
funding
that
we're
educating
to
you
have
you
considered
that
we're
gonna
add
some
some
more
of
these
neighborhood
officer
with
these
additional
funding
that
you
get
the.
M
M
O
O
M
Madam
Speaker,
yes,
I
mean
just
we
haven't
seen
a
dramatic
increase,
but
they
are
out
there.
We
are
doing
and
we're
seeing
guns
that
are
being
modified.
They
might
see
starter
pistols
that
are
modified,
we're
seeing
where
they're
importing
importing
component
parts
from
say
the
United
States
and
then
putting
the
weapon
together
here.
So
we
are
seeing
some
of
that.
Yes,
but
it's
I
wouldn't
say
that
it's
increased
significantly.
Okay
can.
O
M
O
M
P
M
M
You
know
I
I,
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
speculate
too
much.
It
is
a
substantial
number
I
know
in
the
northwest
corner,
we're
probably
seeing
about
35
percent
of
our
shootings
and
there's
a
number
of
tcac
buildings
there
as
well.
I'd
have
to
investigate
that
number.
To
give
you
a
a
conclusive
answer.
P
M
We
have
a
good
cooperative
relationship
with
TCH,
see
and
in
fact,
I've
had
a
number
of
a
couple
of
my
officers
that
oversee
the
special
constable
program:
writing
taking
ride-alongs
with
the
members
of
the
tcac
security
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
where
the
problems
are,
where
the
weaknesses
are
in
terms
of
how
we
can
improve
that
relationship
and
the
sharing
of
information
and
we're
working
about
we're.
Working
on
that.
So.
P
M
P
M
P
M
And
that's
actually,
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
I've
had
members
of
our
PSU
unit
actually
riding
along
with
their
officers,
to
see
where
there
are
weaknesses
in
terms
of
the
relationship
and
what
can
be
done
better.
So
we
actually
oversee
the
program,
but
the
individual
interaction
is
with
each
respective
division.
So.
M
P
M
K
You
I
guess
my
question
is
for
staff
from
Social
Development
so
a
little
over
a
decade
ago,
we
had
what
was
called
summer
of
the
gun
and
in
response
that
the
province
of
Ontario
conducted
probably
one
of
the
most
comprehensive
studies
of
why
violence
occurs
in
our
community.
The
roots
of
violence
report
through.
K
K
L
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
and
through
you
to
our
deputy
chief,
just
to
clarify,
because
there
were
some
questions
asked
and
I
I
heard
some
answers,
but
I
just
wanted
to
be
crystal
clear:
the
4.5
million
dollars,
as
proposed
in
this,
the
the
letter
from
the
mayor.
What
services
did
it
purchase
us?
What
did
we
get
for
that
and
when
did
that
service
enhance
service
begin.
L
So
the
the
service
has
already
been
procured
and
we've
already
received
it
mostly
in
the
streets.
We've
got
about
four
weeks
left
to
the
program.
With
respect
to
the
questions
from
some
of
my
colleagues,
they've
been
asking
about
neighborhood
officers,
which
is
a
very
popular
program.
I
would
say
it's
been
proven
to
be
very
effective.
None
of
this
money
goes
to
hiring
dedicated
neighborhood
officer.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
L
L
If
we,
if
we
vote
to
support
this
particular
request,
which
is
drawing
1.5
million
dollars
from
the
tax
Stabilization
reserve,
so
that
we
can
put
in
the
city's
portion
to
meet
the
province
and
the
federal
government
at
one-third
one-third,
we
don't
necessarily
get
to
influence
how
that
money
is
to
be
spent,
because
it's
already
been
predetermined.
Is
that
correct.
N
You
very
much,
madam
Speaker,
just
through
you
to
the
deputies,
so
deputy,
just
following
them,
a
question
from
counsel.
Well,
Tim
the
projects
for
the
expenditure
of
the
funds
have
already
been
structured.
Resources
have
been
allocated
as
it
relates
to
this
particular
program.
You
talk
about
intelligence,
gathering,
data
gathering
and
so
on.
Is
that
correct,
remember,
speaker,
that's
correct
right.
Could
you
tell
us
this
acute
problem
that
we're
having
with
guns
in
the
city?
M
It's
it's
it's
something!
That's
evolving
all
the
time
and
we
are
working
with
our
partners.
The
border
points,
of
course,
we're
getting.
A
substantial
number
well
over
50%
are
coming
being
imported
from
the
United
States,
and
whether
that's
Windsor,
Sarnia,
Kingston
and
even
even
more
locally
in
terms
of
ship
traffic
coming
across
from
the
United
States
right,
I
was.
N
Elected
in
2003
and
we
went
through
varying
periods,
the
versace
boys
and
the
malware
and
crew
and
all
of
those
folks
and
so
on,
and
lots
of
work
were
done
in
terms
of
addressing
those
people.
Many
were
arrested
and
brought
back
out
on
bail
and
a
variety
of
things,
and
we
saw
an
increase
in
terms
of
activities
and
so
on
that
took
place.
So
my
question
to
you
would
be
given
your
experience
and
given
the
experience
of
the
service
with
respect
to
legislators,
what
rules,
what
laws
do
we
either
have
to
tighten
up?
N
M
Well,
from
my
standpoint,
one
of
the
announcements
that
needs
to
be
made,
or
one
of
the
changes
is
more
stricter
rules
with
respect
to
bail,
we're
seeing
quite
often
they're
its
victims
or
the
people.
We
arrest
for
these
shootings
that
they
are
previously
been
on
bail
and
that's
a
significant
problem
for
us
right
and
it's
a
frustrating
problem.
Quite
frankly,
hey.
N
The
issue
around
having
people
come
to
help
the
police
in
terms
of
providing
information,
there's
a
level
of
fear
that
occurs
in
our
society,
notwithstanding
the
contribution
of
the
4.5
million
dollars
that
we're
saying
this
is
how
we're
going
to
spend
it.
But
there
is
a
vacuum
there
that
exists
with
respect
to
community
members
wanting
to
come
out
to
provide
information
to
the
police
because
they
don't
feel
secure
thereafter,
because
they
feel
that
if
they
speak
to
the
police,
they
themselves
could
be
put
in
jeopardy.
N
I'm,
just
wondering
from
you
with
respect
to
your
professional
experience.
What
more
can
we
do
to
in
terms
of
witness
protection
and
a
mechanism
to
actually
help
people
in
neighborhood
and
the
second
component
part
of
the
question?
Are
there
some
additional
ways
beyond
Crimestoppers
and
so
on
that,
for
example,
the
police
could
come
up
with
to
allow
people
to
be
able
to
talk
with
them
without
necessary,
going
into
a
police
station.
N
Many
years
ago,
I'd
said,
maybe
we
can
use
some
of
the
businesses
in
our
community
where
police
officers
could
actually
go
in
and
meet
them
there
and
people
don't
realize
that
they're
going
to
talk
the
police
I'm,
just
wondering
from
your
perspective.
Are
there
some
additional
thoughts
with
respect
to.
M
The
reality
is
talk
once
you're
talking
to
the
police
at
any
point
in
time,
you're
subject
to
disclosure
and
it
becomes
part
of
the
court
process.
So
really
the
Crimestoppers
program
is
is,
is
really
the
key
program
for
people
to
call
in
and
that
that's
why
people
can
remain
anonymous
and,
and
they
can
be
therefore
protected
right.
N
M
There
is,
and
that's
always
ongoing
and
in
particular
in
relation
to
this
program,
we
are
dealing
with
Halton
Regional,
Peter,
regional
York,
Regional
Police,
the
OPP
and
Durham
Regional
Police
on
this
initiative,
so
there's
there's
a
liaison
going
back
and
forth
with
all
those
jurisdictions.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
So
you
know
everything
we
read
or
a
lot
of
things.
We
read
says
the
ban
bans
on
guns,
don't
work
because
they're
all
illegal,
etc
and
and
there's
a
lot
of
discourse
about
it's,
the
that
you
mentioned
the
illegal
importation
of
illegal
weapons,
but
I
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
discourse
about
whether
it's
possible
and
what
resources
it
would
take,
and
it's
outside
the
Toronto,
Police
Services
of
course.
M
D
I'm
not
saying
that
you're
not
working
hard
at
it,
but
the
outcome
seems
to
be
not
the
outcome
that
we
want
and
I'm
just.
How
do
we
achieve
the
outcome
that
we
want,
that
being
the
reduction
of
the
importation
at
least
know
people
are
still
getting
shot,
so
I
could
think
that
reasonable
the
normal
man
in
the
street
might
say
you're
trying
really
hard,
but
all
of
you
folks,
the
Protective
Services
Customs,
you
name
it
all
the
RCMP,
etc
are
working
very
hard,
but
it's
not
we're
not
moving
the
needle.
D
M
M
D
You
have
your
resources
focused
on
it,
my
quit,
so
my
question
is
I'm
just
trying
to
zero
in
on
like
tell
me
what
you
need,
what
is
it
that
you
need?
You
said
you're
focused
on
it,
I
get
that,
but
obviously
it's
not
enough.
What
is
it
that
you
need
to
reduce
the
weapons?
What
does
I
know
not
just
the
Toronto
Police
Service
I'm
talking?
What
is
your
all
your
got,
all
your
stake,
all
your
team
and
associates.
What
is
it
they
need
to
achieve
to
make
measurable
achievements,
but.
M
Q
A
D
Speaker,
a
very
fitting
topic
on
gun
violence
and
keeping
our
youth
out
of
trouble
at
some
very
special
youth
here
today,
they're
down
to
meet
the
mayor
here
at
three
o'clock
today
and
I'm
sure
my
colleague,
councillor
Bradford,
who
has
a
hotbed
of
lacrosse
and
the
beaches,
know
the
medical
mountaineer
team.
Here,
the
Bantam
A
champions
in
box.
They
went
undefeated
in
box
this
year,
the
best
in
the
province
20
and
OH,
and
then
in
a
sorry
on
the
field
there
20
no
one
in
a
box
across
they
want
to
another
great
records
combined.
D
D
That's
right
and
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
also
Brad
McDonald
coach,
both
those
teams,
their
coaches
here
today,
so
great
job
with
those
kids.
That's
a
it's
a
absolutely
fantastic
record
for
that
team
and
they're
excited
to
meet
the
mayor
if
they
recognize
them
laying
around
up
in
the
chambers
of
three.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
School.
M
S
Madam
Speaker
I
just
want
to
sketch
out
a
bit
of
the
background.
I'm
of
course,
gonna
be
supporting
and
I
have
a
motion
here
by
the
way,
which
is
meant
to
implement
some
of
the
aspects
that
go
beyond
2019,
which
I
think
councillor
Carol's
gonna,
look
after
by
way
of
a
small
amendment
to
her
own
emotion,
which
of
course,
I
support.
So
that
motion
was
just
put
up
there
and
we'll
we'll
have
that
circulated.
S
I
want
to
just
put
into
context
how
the
the
original
item
that
we've
now
put
together
with
councillor
Carol
and
your
and
your
motion
to
do
with
investment
in
communities
came
about.
We
I've
always
said
and
I
maintain
this
position
and
I
will
continue
to
maintain
it
because
I've
never
been
advised
otherwise
by
any
of
those
of
those
who.
We
rely
on
for
advice
that
there
are
three
ways:
three
principle
categories
through
which
we
can
help
stem
gun,
violence,
support
for
the
police
of
which
this
1.5
million
dollars.
S
If
it's
within
change
laws
and
make
them
more
effective,
which
we
talked
about
in
the
context
of
gun
laws
or
bail
laws
and
others,
and
investing
in
neighborhoods
and
kids
and
families
and
I,
think
that
that
is
a
bit
of
a
simplification.
But
it's
it's
I,
think
a
fair
one
into
which
you
can
pardon
me
group,
most
of
the
things
that
we
have
some
responsibility
to
do
in
August
of
this
year
and
frankly,
it
was
not
that
much
difference.
S
In
August
of
last
year
there
was
a
dramatic
uptick
in
shooting
incidents
taking
place
in
neighborhoods
across
the
city,
and
I
was
hearing
a
lot
about
it.
I
was
hearing
a
lot
about
it
when
I
was
out
in
the
city
which,
as
you
know,
I
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time.
Doing
from
members
of
the
public
I
was
hearing
from
councilors
I
was
hearing
from
community
leaders,
and
people
were
anxious
to
say
the
least
people
were
anxious.
I
did
not
feel
that
it
was
an
appropriate
answer
for
me
to
give
them.
S
S
About
this
to
ask
the
police
chief,
which
was
the
first
thing
I
did
what
assistance
could
you
use
to
help
you
to
deal
with
this
very
acute
situation
we
face
now
that
is
leading
to
an
extremely
elevated
level
of
anxiety
on
the
part
of
the
people
in
neighborhoods
across
the
city?
And
what
do
you
need?
S
They've
noticed
of
Speaker
Nancy
ADA
has
made
mention
of
the
fact
that
they've
noticed
the
increased
police
presence
and
they
were
reassured
by
it,
which
was
very
important.
I
mean
III.
Believe
one
of
the
most
important
things
we
can
do
is
to
sort
of
try
and
calm
people,
in
addition
to
taking
specific
measures
to
address
the
violence.
When
these
kinds
of
things
come
about,
as
correctly
reported
by
The,
Globe
and
Mail
on
the
day
in
question,
it
said
that
I
pledged
money
at
the
municipal
level,
the
city
would
be
providing
1.5
million
a
commitment.
S
S
But
I
was
confident
all
the
way
through,
as
I
also
said
publicly,
that
that
measure,
that
commitment
would
be
approved
by
the
council
because
they
knew
it
was
something
that
was
properly
done
and
that
we
could
get
on
with
it,
because
I
felt
that
I
couldn't
go
to
the
other
governments
as
I
did
and
asked
them
to
share
it
and
I
felt
a
fair
basis
upon
which
to
share.
It
was
a
third,
a
third
and
a
third.
S
Without
us
saying
we
were
in,
and
so
I
said
we
were
in,
but
I
said
it
had
to
be
brought
to
Council
and
on
the
basis
of
all
that
the
other
governments
stepped
up
now.
I
will
just
say
that
left
outstanding
to
files
and
and
that
does
that
wasn't
meant
to
be
a
solution.
It
was
meant
to
be
an
additional
measure
we
could
take
in
the
month
of
August
and
in
the
September
and
October
period
to
deal
with
a
very
acute
problem.
S
We've
had
some
help
from
the
province
on
that,
but
I
want
to
finish
just
by
talking
about
the
investments
in
kids
and
families
and
and
again
extend
my
gratitude
to
councillor
Carroll
and
to
yourself,
madam
Speaker,
for
bringing
forward
this
motion
that
allows
us
to
do
something
at
this
point
in
time.
But
just
to
say,
I
have
been
disappointed
to
be
quite
frank
in
the
degree
to
which
the
federal
government
has
not
stepped
up
and
done
what
they
told
me.
They
would
do
face
to
face.
S
Think
part
of
the
result
of
that
is:
we've
seen
commitments
from
the
political
parties,
because
I
raised
it
with
all
of
them
from
the
Liberals
50
million
new
dollars
per
year,
which
will
get
our
share
from
the
NDP
20
million
new
dollars
per
year
and
I
take
some
encouragement
from
that
dependent
again
on
the
results
of
the
election.
But
I
will
just
say
that
I
believe
hugely
in
these
programs,
but
I
also
believe
very
strongly.
It
should
not
be
the
responsibility
of
city
taxpayers
alone
to
fund
these
programs.
S
They
are
social
programs
they're
vital
social
program.
We
will
continue
to
invest
in
them,
but
we
need
those
other
governments
as
partners,
so
I
hope
people
will
support
all
three
of
these
items
taken
together
today,
because
I
think
they
will
move
us
a
tiny
step
forward,
but
with
much
much
more
to
be
done
on
all
fronts
and
I.
Look
forward
to
working
with
colleagues
and
with
the
other
governments
and
with
the
police,
who
are
trying
very
hard,
I
think
to
help
us
with
this
in
addressing
those
challenges.
S
A
F
Thank
You,
speaker
and
I
have
two
amendments.
The
first,
which
is
an
amendment
to
e^x
8.20,
is
to
affirm
the
City
Council's
request
that
the
federal
government
banned
the
availability,
sale
and
possession
and
use
of
handguns
across
Canada.
Not
just
here,
and
my
second
amendment,
which
is
on
e^x
8.26,
is
that,
just
as
the
mayor
has
moved
the
recommendation
calling
on
the
feds
to
provide
the
outstanding
funding
it's
to
call
on
the
province
to
provide
the
outstanding
funding
that
we
have
also
requested,
which
we
have
not
received.
F
There's
been
in
my
five
years
here
on
council
and
this
goes
way
back,
I
think
a
painful
annual
tradition
whereby
we
have
shootings
in
the
summer
followed
by
announcements
of
funding
for
enforcement,
much-needed
enforcement.
Meanwhile,
the
work
we
do
around
the
roots
of
and
violence
remains
unfunded
and
that's
an
annual
tradition.
We
see-
and
it
was
last
summer
in
the
wake
of
far
too
many
shootings
and
the
very
public
and
painful
danforth
shootings.
F
It
was
just
last
summer
that
we
as
a
council,
came
together
to
call
for
a
comprehensive
approach
that,
as
the
mayor
just
spoke,
to
talked
about
three
pillars:
effective
gun
control,
effective
enforcement
and
investments
in
programs
that
tackle
the
roots
of
violence
so
a
year
and
a
half
later.
And
where
are
we
on
gun
control?
F
We
have
I
think
helped
to
lead
a
call
across
this
country
for
more
effective
gun
control,
not
just
for
cities
to
ban
handguns
in
their
city,
but
in
all
jurisdictions
right
across
this
country,
so
that
somebody
can't
buy
a
handgun,
sell
it
or
have
it
stolen
and
walk
it
across
one
city
border
to
another.
Panama,
but
gun
control
is
a
part
of
it.
F
We've
taken
action,
I
think
as
the
city
to
lead
that
conversation
effective
in
community-based
enforcement
is
another
pillar,
and
I
should
note
that
in
the
last
year
and
a
half
we
have
secured
25
million
new
dollars
from
the
province
and
the
federal
government
towards
that
pillar,
25
million
new
dollars.
But
that
leaves
us
where
we
always
get
left,
which
is
on
the
actual
programs
that
actually
tackle
the
preventative
routes
of
violence.
F
The
programs
from
focused
tables
to
pre-charge
diversion
mentorship
and
youth
employment,
those
programs
a
year
and
a
half
ago
we
called
for
42
million
dollars
in
funding
from
both
levels
of
government.
We've
received
seven,
and
this
is
what
happens
every
year.
The
shootings
happen
in
the
summer.
Somehow
we
come
together
and
we
find
that
money
for
enforcement.
It's
not
that
it's
not
necessary,
but
somehow
we
always
find
that
money.
F
Twenty-Five
million
new
dollars,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
actual
preventative
programs,
they're
not
funded
at
the
same
rates
and
so
I'm
supporting
the
recommendations
in
front
of
us
I'm
happy
to
say
that
we're
investing
in
enforcement
and
I'm
supporting
that,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
that
next
summer
we
will
be
in
the
same
situation.
Next
summer
we
won't
have
setup
the
actual
preventive
programs,
because
they're
not
funded
yet,
which
means
they
won't
be
rolled
out
in
June.
So
next
summer
those
programs
won't
be
there.
F
B
B
I
was
told.
Well,
listen.
You
have
to
put
these
requests
in.
You
might
get
them
in
six
months
if
there's
money
in
the
budget.
So
this
is
what
the
community's
asking
for
just
some
traffic
controls.
That
might
be
part,
it's
not
going
to
be
the
magic
solution,
but
a
little
bit
of
money
for
that
to
babies.
Then,
yesterday
I
was
talking
to
a
mother
said
my
18
year
old
is
hanging
around
with
dangerous
people,
I'm
afraid
he's
gonna
get
killed
any
day
now.
If
he
doesn't
get
any
help,
can
I
get
him
into
the
army.
B
I
said
he's
got
to
be
willing
to
sign
up.
I
said:
was
he
in
school?
No
he's
not
out
of
school,
and
she
said
to
me:
I
bought
two
pairs
of
shoes.
For
my
younger
children.
The
shoes
were
gone,
new
shoes
back
to
school
gone
because
the
18
year
old
needed
money.
This
is
the
reality
of
boy
talk
about
the
root
of
violence
and
everything.
Then
the
15
year
old,
her
15
year
old,
is
a
great
basketball
player.
B
He
made
a
team,
but
he
can't
play
for
the
team,
because
the
team
requires
500
bucks,
for
you
know,
travel
incidentals,
so
she's
asking
me:
where
can
I
get
500
bucks,
so
my
15
year
old
can
pursue
his
basketball
wishes
then
I
said
well.
Have
him
write
me
a
letter
I'll
try
to
get
him
500
bucks,
somehow
that's
the
reality.
B
So
there
are
all
kinds
of
great
programs,
but
then
you
have
these
individual
situations
where
these
kids,
again
this
18
year
old,
if
he
doesn't
get
some
kind
of
interventions,
he's
gonna,
DUP
dead
and
the
mother
is
warning
me
right
now.
I
just
want
to
say
in
terms
of
we
get
all
kinds
of
people
making
suggestions
on
how
we
deal
with
gun,
violence
and
crime.
We
know
that
enforcement
is
critical
and
the
police
have
done
a
job
beyond
above
the
call
of
duty
this
last
summer,
but
we
know
ultimately
they
can
only
do
so
much.
B
That's
why
I
sort
of
grimace
when
people
say
well,
we
need
more
cops.
Like
Chicago
I
said
yeah
well,
Chicago's
got
about
three
times
the
number
of
police
officers
we
do
and
they
got
530
murders
this
year.
So
you
want
to
be
like
so
policing
alone
isn't
going
to
solve
this
they'll
bring
back
capital
punishment.
I
said
yeah.
They
have
capital
punch
from
the
state
that
really
reduces
crime
in
the
states.
So
there
aren't
these
magic
solutions.
B
It's
hard
work
by
the
school's,
the
community
workers,
parents
that
end
in
cooperation
with
the
government
of
Ontario,
the
Government
of
Canada
we're
all
in
this
together
and
it's
a
grind.
You
got
to
keep
investing
in
kids,
keep
investing
in
families
and
then,
in
the
middle
of
all,
this
I
find
out
the
provincial
government
polls,
fourteen
million
dollars
from
a
community
center.
What
I'm
saying
here
I'm
trying
to
deal
with
this
reality,
where
kids
can
go
to
a
safe
place
and
I
find
out?
Well,
we
took
out
the
40-man.
You
don't
need
it!
B
You
can
wait!
So
how
in
the
heck
are
we
ever
gonna
get
anywhere?
If
we've
got
yin
and
yang
and
juxtaposed
realities
here,
the
poor
kid
who's
15
can't
find
500
bucks,
the
other
kid
that's
going
to
get
killed.
If
something
doesn't
happen,
and
then
the
government
takes
away
14
million
dollars
for
a
community
center
go
figure
that
out.
K
K
K
K
What
they
found
is
that
if
you
create
of
people
in
your
society
who,
from
their
earliest
years,
live
in
poverty
and
are
treated
as
second-class
citizens
and
don't
have
access
to
the
same
kinds
of
services
and
supports
growing
up
as
the
rest
of
us
do,
they
will
develop
a
number
of
things
that
lead
them
on
the
path
of
violence.
They
will
feel
socially
excluded
that
the
system
doesn't
work
for
them.
I
mean
we
worry
when
we
do
our
budget
about
whether
it's
going
to
be
too
tough
on
homeowners.
K
This
group
of
young
men
can't
even
imagine
the
idea
that
they
would
ever
own
a
home,
it's
laughable
to
them,
and
yet
we
sit
here
and
debate
about
how
to
protect
homeowners.
They're
aware
these
debates
happen,
they
know
that
we
don't
talk
about
protecting
them.
We've
had
ten
years
of
austerity,
since
that
report
came
out
where
budget
after
budget
after
budget
programs
that
could
actually
be
providing
the
social
and
community
supports
to
help
these
young
men
grow
into
people
who
could
city,
councilors
or
police
officers
or
business
executives
or
environmental
activists
or
whatever
the
hell.
K
This
is
all
work
that
has
have
been
available
to
every
member
of
Toronto
City
Council
for
12
years
now,
and
they
tell
us
exactly
what
we
need
to
do
so
that
we
do
not
have
summers
with
not
with
shootings
and
more
shootings
and
more
shootings
and
retaliatory
shootings
and
ever
escalating
bunch
of
violence.
They
don't
say,
put
more
police
officers
in
the
neighborhood,
they
don't
say:
surveil
people
more,
they
don't
say,
provide
more
money
for
tracking
criminals.
They
don't
say,
make
it
harder
to
get
bail,
they
say,
none
of
that
they
say.
K
Invest
in
young
people
in
low-income
and
racialized
groups
in
the
City
of
Toronto
show
them
a
path
tell
them.
There
is
welcome
to
succeed
as
anyone
else
and
that
we
believe
in
their
futures
because
we're
investing
in
their
futures-
and
here
we
are
once
again
today,
privileges
a
response
that
does
not
invest
in
them,
but
invest
rather
in
the
tools
to
constrain
control,
arrest,
incarcerate
and
make
homeless
the
people
who
are
living
in
fragile
communities.
It
is
100%
the
wrong
way
to
go.
K
The
evidence
collected
by
our
own
provincial
government,
in
the
deepest
study
ever
done
on
this
question,
supports
that
Roy
McMurtry,
the
former
attorney
general
of
the
province
of
Ontario.
A
conservative
supports
that
approach.
Alvin
curling,
a
great
community
leader,
supports
that
approach.
We
all
say
we
support
that
approach,
but
when
it's
time
to
put
our
money
where
our
mouth
is,
we
don't.
G
Don't
think
there's
a
quick
solution
to
combat
violence,
especially
in
a
city
as
big
as
Toronto,
but
I
do
applaud
the
the
mayor
for
actually
stepping
up
to
show
some
quick
fix
for
increasing
the
budget
for
the
police
force
and
but
I
do
believe
that
investing
in
the
neighbourhood
office
officers
program.
It's
just
like
investing
in
our
youth,
because
we
have
this
program
to
interact
with
our
youth
so
that
you
know
they
will
build
relationship
and
those
are
long-term
relationship
and
I
do
believe.
T
This
is
this
is
one
of
the
most
difficult
pieces
of
public
policy
that
this
council
has
ever
had
to
deal
with,
because
when
it
comes
to
community
violence,
you
have
so
many
victims
across
the
across
the
spectrum.
You
have
the
victim
of
gun,
violence
who
has
either
been
wounded
or
killed
or
threatened.
T
The
perpetrator
is
someone
who
is
falling
off
the
radar
screen,
who
is
either
given
up
on
the
school
system
or
the
school
system
has
given
up
on
them.
You
have
a
situation
in
which
shootings
in
various
neighborhoods,
great
fear
and
fear
is
one
thing
we
don't
want
in
our
local
communities,
the
area
I
represent
over
the
past
week,
three
people
have
been
murdered
by
guns
and
the
fear
among
the
communities
that
these
events
occurred
in
is
growing,
and
it's
our
responsibility
here
to
to
do
everything
we
can
to
reduce
it.
T
T
Councillor
perks
is
quoting
a
study,
that's
10
years
old,
saying
we're
not
we're
not
really
up
to
the
task
of
providing
much
of
the
social
network
that
he
listed,
that
we
we've
let
everybody
down,
but
we're
spending
more
on
day
care
more
on
social
housing,
more
in
recreation,
more
of
interventions
more
on
poverty
reduction
than
ever
before,
and
yet
we
seem
to
be
falling
further
and
further.
Behind
so
I
have
I.
Have
no
motion.
T
I
have
no
solutions,
certainly
I'm
going
to
support
what's
before
us,
because
our
responsibility
is
to
at
least
try
the
various
things
that
are
within
our
jurisdiction
so
that
we
can
reduce
gun
violence.
We
can
prevent
gun
violence,
but
we
need
our
other
levels
of
government
to
come
forward
to
make
sure
we
can
stop
gun
violence.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
The
reality
is,
is
that
there
are
certain
parts
of
the
city
Northwest
in
particular,
and
councilor
Kohl's
Ward,
council
4th
Ward,
and
my
ward,
where
we
have
increased
gun
violence,
and
the
reality
is,
is
that
the
community
is
asking
that
they
want
more
police
presence
in
these
communities
because
they
feel
unsafe.
I
had
recently
I've
had
quite
a
few
homicides
in
my
ward,
but
recently
when
I
had
the
16
year
old,
that
was
that
was
killed
at
one
of
the
Toronto
housing
buildings.
A
I
had
a
meeting
where
we
had
chief
Saunders,
we
have
Toronto
Community
Housing.
We
had
over
200
tenants
from
tirana,
housing,
and
one
thing
they
said
to
me.
Yelling
at
me
is
that
do
we
want
more
police
officers?
These
are
the
mothers
of
the
victim.
We
want
more
police
officers,
they
do
not
feel
safe,
that's
what
they
asked
for.
We
want
more
security
and
more
police
officer,
so
we
need
to
invest
in
these
communities
for
the
the
community.
These
residents
tenants
that
don't
feel
safe
around
in
their
buildings
and
their
in
their
communities.
A
A
The
I
had
a
forum
where
I
had
the
youth,
the
ten
of
pasta
for
I
had
young
boys,
young
girls.
They
came
to
this
forum
that
I
had
and
we
talked
to
us
just
between
us.
Nobody
was
present,
but
myself
and
my
staff
and
the
staff
from
the
community
center
and
asked
the
youth
one
on
one.
What
is
it
that
you
want?
A
What
is
the
that
you
need
in
this
community
and
it's
amazing
how
they
opened
up
and
each
one
of
them
was
asked
a
question
and
they
answered
on
exactly
what
they
would
like
to
see
improvements
in
their
community?
That's
what
we
need
to
do
more
of
is
engaged
directly
with
the
youth.
The
problem
I
have
is
is
some
some
of
the
recommendations.
Investing
in
communities
give
me
more
fun
into
agencies.
A
The
problem
I
have
with
that
is
the
the
money
that
we're
giving
to
these
agencies,
in
particular
that
I'm,
aware
of,
is
not
doing
what
they
should
be
doing
with
the
youth,
and
we
should
be
involving
the
youth
morn
in
gauging
the
youth
and
investing
directly
to
the
youth,
not
through
agencies,
and
that's
the
problem
that
I
have
with
them.
The
investments
that
we
have
made
in
the
community,
because
you
know
you're,
absolutely
correct.
A
Counselor
pasternak
we've
been
given
a
lot
of
money,
took
communities
and
I,
know
a
number
of
agencies
that
have
been
receiving
funding
and
there
are
no
results
whatsoever
and
and
that's
what
I'm
not
happy
with
the
bail
stronger
legislation.
That's
been
an
issue.
That's
come
up
at
the
police
services
for
numerous
times.
We
will
be
dealing
with
that
issue,
and
that
comes
up.
That
comes
up
with
the
community
from
residents
from
Ted,
and
you
know
we
need.
A
We
have
to
work
for
the
different
levels
of
government,
but
the
reality
is
and
and
remember
the
council
that
don't
support
adding
more
police
officers
or
having
police
presence
in
their
ward
I
like
for
them
to
walk
down
and
go
into
these
communities
where
residents
and
tenants
from
Toronto
housing
are
afraid
to
walk
outside,
because
they
were
afraid
of
the
gun,
violence
and
see
if
they
want
more
police
officers
or
not
because
they're
asking
for
the
for
additional
police
officers,
and
they
want
that
security.
They
need
that
security.
A
So
we
need
to
work
together
with
Toronto
housing,
with
the
police
and
with
the
city
to
make
our
streets
a
lot
safer.
Yes,
we
need
to
invest
in
communities,
but
at
at
the
same
time
we
need
to
invest
directly
to
the
youth
and
not
invest
into
some
of
these
agencies
that
are
not
doing
what
they
should
be
doing.
That's
doing
absolutely
nothing
in
my
opinion.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you
very
much
MEMS
madam
Deputy
Speaker
I
am
I'm
a
little
bit
torn
I,
must
admit,
and
I'm
torn
largely
because
number
one
I
do
I.
Do
think
that
it's
very
important
for
us
to
invest
in
community
based
policing
and
I
do
believe.
It's
very
important
for
us
to
actually
empower
the
Toronto
police
with
the
tools
that
they
need
to
do
the
job
that
they
have
to
do.
The
reason
I'm
torn
is
because
the
mayor
had
only
asked
chief
Saunders.
L
L
They
would
have
probably
said
they
need
a
pathway
to
education
and
they
need
attend
apprentice
programs
and
so,
depending
on
who
you
ask
you're
gonna
get
a
slightly
different
answer,
so
that's
why
I'm
torn
I
I
think
that
what's
really
important
here
is
I
mean
the.
What
what's
done
is
is
is
now
before
us,
and
certainly
we
need
to
to
pay
up
our
portion.
I
will
I
will
grant
that
to
to
to
the
mayor
and
I
know
that
he
was
doing
everything
he
can
within
the
powers
based
on
what
he,
what
he
was.
L
What
he
knew
was
to
be
right,
but
I
also
am
a
very
I'm,
also
very
concerned
that
we
missed
the
mark
on
a
whole
bunch
of
other
things
and
those
other
things
had
everything
to
do
with
you
know.
How
do
we
measure
comes
so
four
point?
Five
million
dollars
goes
out
and
we
told
we
were
told
that
we're
gonna
get
enhanced
services
and
we
got
about
just
under
eleven
weeks
of
that
enhanced
service.
Well,
what
did
we
get
for
that
beyond
what
was
described?
L
L
If
you
ask
that
community
would
Makai
be
with
us
today,
if
that
community
center
was
open
when
he
needed
it.
With
this
after-school
program,
my
community
would
say
yes
because
he
would
have
been
exactly
where
he
was
supposed
to
be
and
and
not
anywhere
else,
and
so
that's
the
lesson
that
I
will
take
away
as
I
as
I
think
about
how
I'm
going
to
vote
on
this,
because
the
communities
that
I've
serve
have
said.
Yes,
we
want
more
dedicated
neighborhood
officers
and
we're
so
grateful
for
that
program,
because
it's
very
popular
and
very
effective.
L
L
Madam
speaker,
criminal
incidents
involving
for
our
arms
went
up
by
30
percent
gun
homicides
increased
by
60%
gender-based
violence
and
fire
involving
firearms,
went
up
by
one-third
and
after
decades
of
decline,
all
of
a
sudden
firearm
suicides
were
going
through
the
roof
past
because
of
the
the
relaxed
laws
on
gun,
control
and
different
firearms
are
used
differently
and
I
just
want
to
highlight
this
because
there's
been
talks
about
handguns
and,
let's
say
like
we
need
to
actually
ban
all
guns.
Unless
you
actually
are
a
police
officer
or
you
actually
are
member
of
the
military.
L
You
should
not
have
guns,
and
this
is
where
the
federal
government
this
one
and
the
SEC
and
the
one
prior
has
failed
us.
Handguns
are
often
used
in
real
and
gang
related
violence.
Military
assault
weapons
are
used
in
mass
shootings,
hunting
rifles
and
shotguns
are
used
in
domestic
homicides,
suicides
and
police
shootings.
Do
we
need
a
ban
on
handguns
in
Toronto?
Yes,
we
need
a
ban
gun
on
handguns
across
the
country,
but
we
also
need
to
have
stricter
gun
control
thing
right
across.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
N
N
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
do
have
a
motion
if
it
can
be
put
up,
I
appreciate
it.
Madam
Speaker,
this
is
a
request.
The
city
manager,
to
reach
out
to
other
jurisdictions
in
North
America,
including
New
York,
to
examine
how
this
jurisdictions
have
been
able
to
reduce
the
occurrences
of
Ireland
gun
crimes,
to
request
that
the
city
manager
work
with
all
relevant
city
divisions
and
the
Toronto
Police
Services,
to
implement
lessons
learned
from
other
jurisdictions
to
reduce
the
occurrences
of
gun
violence
in
Toronto.
N
Madam
Speaker,
further
to
what
I
was
saying,
I
do
have
a
couple
of
graphs
they
want
to
share
with
my
colleagues.
You
will
notice
that,
since
2004
to
2018,
our
population
has
gone
up
by
about
half
a
million
people.
The
occurrences
is
from
26
in
2005
or
two
now
251.
We
have
police
constables
that
was
30
975
in
2004
right
now
that
has
dropped
down
to
38
29.
We
have
600
police,
624
people
per
police
officer,
and
our
budget
has
gone
up
by
about
two
hundred
three
hundred
million
dollars.
N
If
we
look
at
a
graph
at
the
shooting
occurrences,
you'll
notice
that
that
graph,
although
it
spiked
in
2006
the
year
of
the
gun
the
summer
of
the
gun,
that
graph
has
gone
up,
Oh
steadily
persons
per
officer,
we
have
gone
from
600
plus
people
for
one
officer
up
to
700,
plus
now,
madam
Speaker,
if
you
were
to
compare
this
to
New
York
City,
New,
York
City
in
2004,
had
a
population
of
7.9
million,
and
right
now
has
a
population
of
point.
8.3.
The
shootings
in
New
York
in
2006
were
2055.
This
very
moment.
N
They're
down
to
951
the
population
of
New
York,
like
the
population
of
Toronto,
has
risen
police
officers
per
person
in
New
York.
They
started
at
215
right
now.
There
are
235,
so
there's
more
police
officers
for
people
in
New
York
than
we
do
have
in
Toronto.
Madam
Speaker.
However,
this
is
the
this
is
the
graph
that
that
says
it
all.
N
Do
not
allow
people
to
carry
guns
on
their
persons,
although
we
have
gun
collectors
and
we
have
guns
at
homes
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
our
violent
crimes
are
done
with
handguns
that
people
have
the
people
that
retrieve
guns
or
steal
guns
from
legitimate
gun
owners.
Someone
like
50
percent,
we're
told
that
has
to
stop
so
in
order,
besides
all
other
measures,
so
we're
talking
about
we're.
Talking
about
tighten
things
at
the
border,
we're
talking
about
no,
no
banning
handguns,
a
matter
of
fact.
N
But
this
is
not
at
your
home,
so
people
cannot
break
in
and
enter
your
house
in
creve
it.
Madam
Speaker,
with
all
those
things
that
we're
talking
about
I,
think
it's
more
time
that
we
look
holistically.
We
look
at
the
things
that
what
are
the
police
divisions
doing?
What
are
the
social
agencies
doing?
What
are
other
immunity?
What
other
municipalities
and
their
divisions
are
doing
and
then
learning
from
them
come
back
to
Canada
and
implement
them?
N
E
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
have
a
motion
which
is
an
amendment
to
the
notice
of
motion
that
I
have
included
in
the
the
mayor's
key
item.
The
City
Council
amend
recommendation
1
of
that
motion
by
replacing
the
amount
1.29
2
million
with
0.3
million,
so
that
recommendation
now
reads
as
follows:
City
Council
increase
the
2019
operating
budget
in
year
for
Social
Development
Finance
and
to
implement
year
one
of
the
towards
peace
program
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
I
think
it's
self-explanatory.
E
Well,
that
was
the
annual
cost
in
my
work
with
staff
in
the
day
before
budget
to
find
what
would
be
the
perfect,
the
most
surgical
program
so
that
we
could
do
what
we
need
to
do,
which
is
both
things
I.
Look
at
whether
or
not
we
invest
in
police
and
whether
or
not
we
invest
in
the
young
people
themselves
right
now,
a
short
term
and
long
term,
because
the
reality
is
I
share
the
experience
of
councilor
Nunziata.
E
Yes,
we
know
that
what
councilor
perks
said
from
that
study
is
absolutely
right.
You
have
to
invest
in
poverty
reduction
and
youth
themselves
to
get
any
kind
of
change
at
all.
There's
no
question
about
that,
but
the
reality
is
we're
now
at
a
point
where
the
problem
is
so
acute
in
a
neighborhood
of
mine,
where
they've
seen
seen
four
major
shootings
once
it
hit
the
news
in
less
than
12
months,
and
the
children
are
now
in
that
complex
afraid
to
sleep
in
their
beds.
They
sleep
on
the
floor.
E
Beside
their
mothers,
strapping
young
men
at
14,
sleeping
on
the
bed
beside
is
sleeping
on
the
floor
beside
their
mother's
bed,
because
they're
afraid
that
bullets
will
come
through
the
window,
which
means
we
we
have
to
have
both
strategies,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
moving
this?
The
point
three
is
because
we're
now
we
we
spoke
in
terms
of
what
the
program
will
cost
while
we
were
deciding
what
would
be
the
best
program
to
recommend
to
compliment
this
infusion
into
the
police
budget.
E
E
If
we
go
back
to
the
beginning
of
Mayor
Bloomberg's
time
and
on
through
de
Blasio,
along
with
that
infusion
in
police
funding,
came
community
policing,
kind
of
neighborhood
officer
and
community
officer
and
connect
'officer
the
things
in
our
very
own
transformation
taskforce
that
are
not
the
traditional
type
of
policing.
But
a
lot
of
that
was
part
of
the
the
Adhan
officers
and,
along
with
it
came
the
massive
investment
that
went
into
youth
through
the
school
boards
that
there,
the
City
Hall
controls
through
the
broken
window.
Theory
implementation.
E
E
There
was
a
partnership
between
the
investment
and
youth,
the
investment
in
the
schools,
because
they
had
control
of
it
and
an
investment
in
all
of
the
things
that
towards
peace
program
intends
to
touch
on,
and
those
were
done
in
compliment
of
the
massive
updating
under
new
leadership
of
their
Police
Service.
And
so
yes,
that's
a
compelling
chart,
but
if
you
want
to
come
up
with
the
same
chart,
you're
gonna
need
to
do
more
than
just
adding
to
the
police
budget.
E
Talking
about
policing
in
that
acute
moment
in
the
summer
got
the
ear
of
the
other
orders
of
government
for
the
mayor,
and
so
he
was
able
to
get
that
investment.
But
if
we're
going
to
every
time
we
have
a
violent
summer,
ask
other
orders
of
government
to
bring
us
I
call
them
gifts
of
violence.
There
were
always
a
sum
of
money
that
is
temporary.
E
It
is
either
one
time
or
three
years
in
nature
and
what
kids
need
to
know
from
the
first
time,
they're
aware
of
violence
in
their
neighborhood,
they
need
to
know
what
the
alternative
is
and
it
needs
to
be
there
the
whole
time
they're
growing.
There
needs
to
be
a
core
that
never
goes
away
a
core
that
when
other
orders
of
government
want
to
come
and
hook
in
and
help
us
they
can
attach
to
that
core
and
enhance
what
we
are
doing.
E
We
we
need
to
have
a
court
here
that
we're
investing
in
municipal
II
so
that
we
can
tap
into
it
and
when
we
need
to
enhance
it,
we
will
and
that's
what
towards
peace
is
about,
and
that's
why
there
our
emotions
about
other
orders
of
government.
We
mean
we
need
more
from
you,
but
I
actually
think
that
towards
peace
that
couldn't
be
the
core
in
the
compliment
to
all
of
it.
It
will
be
spoken
to
in
that
vein.
E
C
My
my
daughter
is
being
raised
by
family
that
loves
her,
that
she
has
every
opportunity
in
the
world.
She
has
the
good
fortune
of
living
in
one
of
the
safest
neighborhoods
in
Toronto,
and
she
has
every
opportunity
in
front
of
her
and
I
am
so
cognizant
of
the
privilege
that
we
have
and
I
am
so
grateful
for
the
opportunities
that
she
has
and
I
want
her
to
have
everything
I
wanted
to
have
the
best
life
she
could
ever
ever
possibly
have
and
I
know
that
we
all
feel
that
way
about
our
kids
and
the
people.
C
We
love
in
our
lives
and
I
believe
that
every
child
throughout
the
city
should
have
the
same
opportunity,
as
my
daughter
has,
but
that's
just
not
the
case
today
and
I.
Think
about
you
know.
If
we
look
at
policy,
should
we
don't
look
at
policy
through
the
same
eyes
of
a
parent
thinking,
how
do
I
both
protect
my
child
and
how
do
I
contribute
to
his
or
her
happiness?
C
If
we
look
at
what
some
of
the
table
in
front
of
us,
if
you
just
look
at
the
evidence,
I've
seen
dozens
and
dozens
of
studies
that
have
determined
that
when
it
comes
to
CCTV,
they
may
be
helpful
with
car
break-ins,
for
example,
but
they
do
little
or
nothing
when
it
comes
to
violent
crime.
So
I
would
just
ask
unless
there's
a
study
that
I'm
unaware
of
that
refutes
what
all
those
dozens,
if
not
hundreds
of
studies
such
as
the
college
of
police
in
England,
City
University
of
New
York
I,
could
cite
so
many.
C
Then
if
we
have
limited
funds
just
logically
rationally,
why
would
we
invest
in
something
that
there
is
an
evidence
to
support?
Why
would
we
do
that
if
we
are
taking
this
seriously
I,
don't
understand
that
fully
what
we
do
know
based
on
as
councillor
perch
cited
correctly,
the
roots
of
youth
violence
report
by
Alvin,
curling
Roy
McMurtry,
our
own
staff,
with
the
Toronto
youth
equity
strategy.
C
They're,
all
telling
us
the
same
thing.
Invest
in
these
kids
early.
Do
everything
you
can
to
reach
out
to
them,
provide
options
and
opportunities,
so
they
live
a
happy,
healthy
and
successful
life
so
that
they
do
not
become
either
the
victims
of
crime
or
of
the
perpetrators
of
crime.
So
we
don't
need
to
take
pictures
of
them
holding
the
gun
because
they
never
will
pick
up
a
gun
in
the
first
place.
Is
that
not
success
really?
Is
that
not
what
you'd
want
for
your
own
child?
C
Moreover,
if
we
really
want
to
invest
in
things,
then
you
know
look
at
the
youth
spaces
that
I've
raised
over
and
over
again
it's
not
my
idea,
I'm
just
bringing
voice
to
that
idea,
because
we
have
a
dearth
of
support,
even
in
our
existing
libraries,
where
we
have
youth
congregating,
because
they've
got
nowhere
else
to
go
and
we
don't
have
enough
youth
spaces
throughout
the
city,
but
we're
not
investing
in
that
and
we
are
investing
in
cameras
that
I
don't
see
any
evidence
that
work
I.
Just
don't
see
why
we're
going
in
that
direction.
C
As
we
said
earlier,
we
have
this
debate
over
and
over
again
every
time
a
kid
is
either
the
perpetrator
of
a
crime
or
the
victim
of
a
crime.
We
say:
we've
got
to
do
something
and
we
ask
for
more
reports,
and
we,
you
know
we
try
to
figure
out
what
to
do.
The
studies
have
already
done.
The
reports
have
already
been
written.
We
just
have
to
follow
their
advice
and
I
believe.
C
If
we
follow
their
advice,
we
will
end
up
making
the
right
investments
it's
harder
to
prove
a
negative
than
a
positive
meaning
that
we
can.
We
can
make
announcements
about
how
many
police
officers
we
hire.
We
can
make
announcements
about
how
many
cameras
we
put
up.
We
can
demonstrate
to
our
communities
who
are
living
in
fear,
money
and
I,
get
why
we
need
to
respond
to
that
that
we're
doing
things,
and
we
should
be
doing
things
to
demonstrate
that
we
recognize
their
insecurity,
which
is
valid
and
real.
C
It's
harder
to
prove,
for
example,
that
that
that
that
individual,
that
becomes
a
successful,
businessperson
or
politician
or
athlete
or
artist
didn't,
would
would
have
otherwise
become
a
criminal
or
victim
of
a
criminal
if
we
hadn't
provide
them
opportunities
in
the
first
place,
but
in
the
long
term,
for
the
brief
moment
in
time
that
we
are
here
able
to
make
a
difference,
let's
invest
in
the
next
generation
the
generation
after.
Thank
because
that's
the
difference,
I
believe
we
all
want
to
make.
Thank
you.
A
I
There
holiday-
thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
have
a
brief
motion
on
the
screen.
So
a
week
ago,
last
Tuesday
I
was
out
in
the
ward
in
Etobicoke
Center
and
was
looking
at
some
asphalt.
You
know
looking
at
a
street
with
staff
and
some
residents,
and
then
I
saw
the
helicopter,
the
helicopter
flying
around
about
a
kilometer
away,
and
you
know
Tobacco
Center
is
a
pretty
quiet
place.
We
don't
have
helicopters
commit
that
often
usually
it's
bad
news,
and
in
this
case
it
was
bad
news.
I
There
was
a
shooting
at
a
fatality
at
the
West
Mall
in
Rathbun.
In
fact,
just
a
few
blocks
from
Etobicoke
Civic
Center,
where
I
was
a
few
minutes
ago.
So
I
got
home
and
I
asked
my
kids
cuz
schools
nearby
if
they
had
gone
into
lockdown
and
they
didn't
that
day.
But
a
couple
days
later
they
did
a
hold
and
secure
exercise
at
school,
and
you
know
I
got
to
thinking.
They
did
a
few
though
they
actually
did
a
couple
of
lockdowns
the
year
before
because
of
shootings
in
the
area.
I
You
know,
I,
don't
know
about
I,
didn't,
say
most
counselors
in
this
chamber:
I.
Don't
think
ever
had
to
go
through
hold
and
secure
exercise
at
school,
maybe
there's
one
or
two
that
might
be
young
enough.
We
did.
We
did
fire
drills,
you
know,
and
that
was
an
exciting
thing,
but
my
kids,
you
know,
go
through
a
day
and
age
where
it's
it's
a
routine
exercise
to
go
and
close
the
drapes
and
lock
the
door,
because
something
really
bad
happened
in
the
neighborhood,
and
so
when
a
helicopter
flies
over
in
Tobago
Center.
I
It
really
begs
a
public
confidence,
question
and
I.
Think
that's
the
angle.
I've
approached
it
in
the
motion
I
had
before
you
I
realize
that
this
is
a
complex
issue
and
there's
a
lot
of
tragedy,
tragedy
in
gun,
violence
and
death,
but
you
know
I,
think
about
what
general
citizens
think
about
their
government,
their
federal
provincial
municipal
or
whether
they
care
about
which
order
it
is,
and
even
the
police
force,
and
they
see
these
things
and
they
worry
about
it.
I
So,
with
my
motion,
another
surprise
that
hasn't
come
up
so
far,
because
the
last
question
from
deputy
mayor
minute-long
to
deputy
chief
rammer
is
you
know?
What
do
you
think
is
needed
and
I
hope
we
can
be
in
alignment
and
saying
as
a
council
that
we
need
consequences
for
people
that
take
these
actions
and
consequences
come
in
the
form
of
tougher
bail
conditions,
so
that
somebody
can't
just
return
to
the
street
after
doing
something
and
tougher
sentences,
I
just
I,
don't
think
it's
an
ad
hoc
thing,
I
mean
I
really
do
believe.
I
That's
the
sentiment
of
people
that
I've
spoken
to
that
one
piece
of
the
equation
before
us
is
making
sure
that
those
consequences
stay
relevant
as
things
change
in
the
city
and
you
know,
perhaps
people
will
take
some
some
care,
some
sentiment
that
you
know
maybe
a
changes.
It
is
afoot
when
they
see
helicopters
fly
or
their
kids
come
home
and
talk
about
being
in
in
lockdown
for
the
day.
Thank
you.
P
P
My
experience
is
that
we've
now
put
nine
I'm
going
to
speak
about
to
tcht,
because
that's
where
so
many
young
folks
run
into
situation
where
they
end
up
gang-related
unrelated
and
what
types
of
investments,
what
kind
of
strategy?
What
kind
of
metrics
do
we
have?
How
are
we
engaged
to
make
sure
that
those
aren't
pathways
and
I
do
think
I'm.
Just
talking
about
your
list
pathways
to
education
that
was
developed
years
ago
at
the
Toronto
District
School
Board
out
of
little
eastdale
collegiate,
then
it
was
applied
at
Regent
in
other
places.
P
P
Have
we
spread
that
far
enough,
and
this
year
we've
now
investing
9.5
million
dollars
in
new
police
and
in
new
CSU
at
TC
HC,
and
when
we
talk
about
neighborhood
officers,
let's
be
clear:
we're
talking
about
neighborhood
officers
in
our
TCH
Sikh
communities,
we're
not
talking
about
them.
In
my
neighborhood,
you
know
councillor
perks,
right
down
your
street,
we're
talking
about
TCH,
see
so
I
have
an
issue
with
the
lack
of
coordination
between
all
of
the
law
enforcement
approaches
and
the
tenants
of
TCH
see
the
board.
P
Members
of
TCH
C
are
kind
of
concerned
that
we
throw
all
these
officers
there.
They're
worried
about
racial
profiling,
getting
carted
getting
targeted
and
I
think
that
we
have
to
listen
to
them
and
the
piece
that's
really
missing
in
my
mind,
is
a
coordinated
approach.
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
tenant
management
approach
that
deals
with
the
difficult
tenants,
everybody's
now
treated
the
same
they're
everybody's
bad.
Where
is
the
tenant
management
plan?
Where
is
the
coordination
I'm
extremely
frustrated
when
I
asked
the
deputy
and
I
think
he
gave
me
a
really
honest
answer?
P
P
There's
nobody
at
TC
HC
that
wakes
up
every
morning
that
isn't
a
CSU
that
has
a
management
approach
rather
than
simply
we're
going
out
finding
people
arresting
them
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
are
we
doing
in
a
broader
way
for
you,
I
have
a
number
of
letters
I'd
really
like
to
read
to
you
from
a
shooting
on
the
weekend
too,
in
the
first
revitalized
community,
one
on
Friday
one
on
Sunday
and
they
list
all
the
shootings
in
that
community.
Over
and
over
and
over
again,
we
have
thrown
everything
we
possibly
have.
P
A
D
Yes,
ma'am
speaker,
I
could
do
it
now
or
after
the
signing
would
be
more
appropriate
after
rolling
there.
You
can
now
sign
okay,
another
problem,
so
yes,
after
further
considering
our
conversation
with
the
integrity
commissioner
and
we'd
just
like
to
declare
conflict
on
page
14
of
the
agenda,
ten
point:
five
objection
to
liquor
license
phase
two
restaurant
1500
on
York
Road
as
I
live
in
a
family
property
in
the
immediate
proximity
to
the
applicant.
D
D
Councillor
Perutz,
please.
N
R
D
Perutz
please.
C
D
A
A
Q
A
L
Do
it
our
way
and
I
think
that
that's
really
in
quite
encouraging
to
develop
a
gender
equity
strategy
and
to
eventually
build
out
the
gender
equality
office?
Maybe
we'll
start
with
a
unit
first,
but
hopefully
yeah
one
day
we
will
get
to
that
office.
We'll
have
to
involve
number
of
key
principles,
although
other
jurisdictions
do
drive
towards
gender
equality,
they
do
it
slightly
differently,
and
we
know
that
this
is
not
the
first
time
it's
been
done
in
other
jurisdictions,
whether
it's
across
the
country.
L
We
have
Vancouver
Edmonton,
Calgary,
Ottawa,
London
and
Montreal
all
in
the
pursuit
of
making
sure
that
women
and
girls,
trans
people
and
non-binary
people
are
included
in
their
decision-making.
We
also
see
that
American
cities
are
pursuing
the
same
thing:
we're
trying
to
place
women
and
girls
back
onto
the
urban
agenda
in
cities
such
as
Los,
Angeles,
New,
York,
Boston
and
others,
and
oftentimes
they're,
driven
through
the
the
leadership
of
their
their
mayor,
or
perhaps
there's
a
city
manager,
their
top
public
servant.
L
But
it
has
to
be
at
the
top
level
of
political
support
and
and
of
course,
the
the
gold
plate
and
what
we
always
seen
as
the
the
best
standard
of
all
is
is
in
Vienna
Austria,
which
has
actually
been
in
pursuit
of
gender
equality
in
their
City
for
four
decades.
So
we
have
a
long
ways
to
go,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
staff
for
this
particular
body
of
work.
I
want
to
highlight
just
three
things:
although
every
jurisdiction
is
gonna,
do
things
a
little
bit
differently.
L
One
of
the
staff
conclusion
is
that
there's
gotta
be
some
three
fundamental
pieces
in
order
to
make
this
work
for
the
City
of
Toronto
and
they've,
drawn
on
best
practices
that
you
have
to
incorporate
a
consultation
process.
That's
going
to
involve
the
community
voices
to
set
the
priorities.
So
we
cannot
do
this
for
the
the
populations
that
we
want
to
serve.
We've
got
to
do
it
with
their
consultation,
with
their
deep
engagement
in
mind.
L
We
also
need
to
develop
a
an
outcome
based
framework,
so
we
need
to
be
able
to
measure
where
we're
going,
and
we
won't
know
that
if
we
don't
know
where
we
are
starting
at
so
the
environmental
scan
will
have
to
include
a
very
strong
disaggregated
data
collection
framework,
which
I
would
say
that
City
of
Toronto
is
still
struggling
to
do
very
well.
And
this
is
all
about
benchmarking
and
making
sure
that
we
can
actually
measure
outcomes
at
the
end
of
the
day.
L
And
we
won't
be
able
to
do
that
without
a
very
robust
and
sophisticated
data
collection
process,
including
a
very
clear
reporting
that
we
going
to
be
framed
on
accountability
and
and
transparency.
And
finally,
there
is
no
solid
way
of
doing
this
work
on
promoting
gender
equality
at
the
City
of
Toronto.
Unless
you
can
dedicate
staff
resources
to
it,
which
is
why
it's
critically
important
that
we
are
actually
to
actually
hire
the
technical
subject
matter.
L
84%
of
single-parent
households
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
84%
of
them,
are
led
by
women.
60%
of
transit
users
are
women
they're,
the
majority
most
of
the
drivers
are
men
when
it
comes
to
populations
of
who
are
sitting
in
the
in
the
senior
category
65
and
older.
You
have
almost
60
percent
that
are
women,
so
you
end
up
having
people
who
are
more
vulnerable,
who
are
road
users
who
were
active
transportation
users?
L
You're
gonna
have
more
people
who
are
vulnerable
in
leading
single
family
households,
which
oftentimes
means
that
there
are
children
in
those
single
lead:
family
households,
which
means
that
children
are
impoverished,
not
just
their
single
parent,
led
families,
and
when
you
take
a
look
at
pay,
equity
and
the
income
gaps,
we
know
that
78%
of
women
is
what
this,
so.
It
7-7
eats
70
cents
on
the
mail
dollars
what
women
earn
and,
if
you
happen
to
be
a
racialized
and
indigenous
person,
that
number
quickly
decreases.
L
D
K
You
so
much
on
page
five,
it
looks,
there's
a
table
that
looks
at
the
quarter.
Second
quarter
variance
and
urine
projection
key
drivers
and
there's
eight
point:
eight
million
net
favorable
for
MLS
and
one
of
the
items
listed
for
that
is
lower
than
planned.
Labor
costs.
Why
do
we
have
lower
than
planned
labor
costs
so.
H
Through
you,
madam
speaker,
that
has
been
one
of
the
challenges
in
MLS
on
the
hiring
of
MSOs,
which
represent
the
largest
volume
of
staff,
compliment.
Typically,
it
we
hire
in
a
class
it
takes
about.
We
get
about
thirty
to
forty
people,
and
it
takes
a
good
chunk
of
the
year
to
get
through
the
vetting,
because
we
have
thousand
plus
applicants.
So
it
has
been
a
history
of
running
the
class
and
the
time
it
takes
to
hire
the
class
okay.
K
So,
given
that
that's
something
something
that
we
have
a
history
with
and
given
the
I'm
pretty
sure
you
could
ask
any
member
of
this
council
or
any
member
of
the
public
who's
try
to
deal
with
MLS,
we
have
problems
providing
enforcement
to
a
standard
that
we
approve
here
at
Council.
What's
the
plan
for
making
sure
that
we
don't
continually
have
lower
than
approved
compliment
and
enforcement
officers
at
MLS,
so.
H
Through
you,
madam
Speaker
I
know
you
know.
Certainly
the
recruitment
and
expediting
the
recruitment
has
been
an
activity
we've
undertaken
over
the
last
classes
undertaken
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
looking
at
opportunities
for
perpetual
postings
and
smaller
classes
and
more
frequent
training
I
would
say
not
having
them
in
front
of
me.
Unfortunately,
I
apologize
for
that.
Certainly
I
think
some
of
the
service
levels
we
do
attain
others
we
do
have
challenges
with
that
is
not
not
only
related
to
staffing,
but
also
increased
volumes
in
some
different
call
categories.
So.
H
K
Okay,
going
to
page
11
I
have
questions
about
the
TTC,
but
I
don't
see
anybody
here
from
the
TTC.
Looking
at
the
approved,
complement
and
strength
comparisons
table
below
the
table.
That
says
a
vacancy
rate
of
46
percent
is
deemed
reasonable
and
it's
projecting
a
year-end
vacancy
rate
of
13%
in
corporate
services.
D
K
D
Through
the
speaker,
so
those
would
be
specific
to
the
different
capital
programs
that
are
being
delivered,
so
the
skill
sets
will
range
and
vary
depending
on
the
types
of
positions
and
in
corporate
services.
Specifically
there's
a
lot
of
capital
positions
related
to
construction,
as
well
as
int
initiatives.
K
K
K
Before
the
next
variance
and
then
sort
of
looking
at
the
whole
chart,
I
note
that-
and
this
is
something
I
notice
every
single
year
when
we
get
our
mid-year,
very
vacancy
variance
report.
The
current
the
vacancy
row
report,
vacancy
rate,
as
of
the
writing
of
this
report,
was
6%
and
it's
projected
to
go
down
to
3.7.
This
is
corporate-wide
and
I
notice.
Every
single
year
in
the
middle
of
the
year
were
way
down
positions
corporate-wide.
Now
we
don't
approve
a
whole
lot
of
brand-new
positions
in
the
budget
cycle.
K
D
A
K
So
I
believe
it
was
the
year
2008.
When
I
first
raised
a
concern
about
whether
or
not
we
were
hiring
adequate
engineering
staff
to
manage
capital
projects.
We
had
projects
that
were
being
delayed
because
we
didn't
have
staff
in-house.
We
had
developed
a
practice
of
not
being
able
to
find
because
we
couldn't
find
people
internally.
We
would
hire
contract
managers
to
manage
contracts,
and
then
we
would
run
into
the
problem
of
the
if
the
project
fell.
K
Behind
it's
the
external
contract
manager
that
we've
contracted
would
say
it's
the
contractors
fault
and
the
contractor
would
say
it's
the
external
contract
managers
fault.
This
is
an
eleven-year
problem
of
us
not
being
able
to
hire
staff
with
the
adequate
skill
set
to
be
able
to
manage
capital
programs.
I'd
asked
about
it.
Every
year,
I've
asked
staff
to
generate
reports
on
it.
I've
met
with
three
consecutive
deputy
city
managers
who
manage
that
program
and
I
continue
to
be
told,
we're
thinking
about
it.
K
We
have
budgets
projecting
that
our
state
of
good
repair
backlog
is
going
to
grow,
which
means
that
things
are
going
to
be
broken
and
unusable,
and
that
costs
us
money.
We
are
wasting
public
money
because
we
just
don't
solve
this
problem
and
I'm
gonna
turn
blue
in
the
face
before
it
gets
solved,
but
willing
to
do
that.
L
L
Like
to
speak,
yes,
thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
I
realized
that
this
is
a
pass-through
request.
That's
coming
from
the
trunk
stability,
Advisory
Committee,
but
I
did
want
to
flag
this,
because
we
had
asked
for
a
very
similar
thing
during
our
last
budget
process,
and
that
is
specifically
just
to
highlight
that
for
the
divisions
who
are
as
to
to
make
accommodations
for
for
those
who
are
employed
in
the
Toronto
Public
Service,
any
type
of
a
oda
accommodations,
whether
it's
through
technology
or
perhaps
special
equipment,
modifications
with
desks
and
equipments.
L
It
has
to
come
out
of
the
divisions
budget.
And
what
that
does,
madam
speaker
is
that
actually
builds
out.
It
builds
in
an
inherent
bias
for
the
divisions,
whether
they
know
it
or
not.
Is
that
hiring
people
with
a
disability
means
that
it
would
just
cost
that
division
a
little
bit
extra,
and
so,
madam
Speaker,
what
what
our
committee
is
recommending
is
that
any
accommodations
for
Ald
a
requirements
should
come
out
of
a
global
budget,
very
similar
to
what
City
Council
has
before
us.
L
So
if
we
want
to
draw
from
the
global
budget
to
provide
sign
language
interpretation
to
provide
some
accommodations
for
our
public
meetings,
we're
able
to
do
that
without
drawing
that
from
our
our
office
budgets.
So,
although
it
did
not
pass
in
the
2019
budget,
it
is
our
committee's
hope.
Our
our
advisory
committees
hope
that
in
the
2020
budget
is
that
we're
able
to
set
forward
a
global
pot
where
all
the
divisions
across
the
city
of
Toronto
can
draw
all
from
that
pot
to
make
sure
that
their
employees
are
gonna,
be
accommodated
from
that
global
budget.
L
It's
no
different,
madam
Speaker
than,
for
example,
if
you
have
someone
who
needs
to
go
on
maternity
or
paternity
leave
and
that
that
division
had
to
pay
specifically
for
those
extra
dollars,
that
would
be
grossly
unfair.
It
would
also
disadvantage
anybody
who
want
to
have
children
and
that's
kind
of
the
system.
That's
been
set
up
at
the
City
of
Toronto
at
the
moment
where
the
divisions
would
have
to
take
out
of
their
own
divisional
of
office
budgets,
their
own
division
of
budget,
to
provide
accommodations
and
so
for
the
employees
in
the
trial.
Public
Service.
L
They
have
raised
this
concern
with
our
committee
and
our
committee
is
once
again
tabling
this
and
hoping
that,
through
the
2020
budget
process,
that
we
can
make
the
right
move
and
a
move
that
is
actually
being
backed
by
through
the
AODA
and
a
move
that
actually
sits
and
embedded
in
the
Ontario
Human
Rights
Commission
around
a
policy
based
on
ableism
and
discrimination
based
on
disability.
It's
a
it's
a
section,
9.3
minimizing
undue
hardship,
so
this
is
actually
based
on
human
rights
law.
L
A
A
K
K
Won't
take
much
time,
speaker,
I'd,
hope
to
be
able
to
talk
to
staff
a
little
bit
more
but,
as
I
said,
we're
going
through
these
items
very
quickly.
I
I
encourage
every
member
of
council
to
read
these
reports,
they're
about
the
kinds
of
gaps
that
we
have
as
a
city
and
the
services
we
deliver
that
result
in
people
dying
in
the
worst
circumstances.
K
I
do
not
want
to
continue
to
sit
on
our
Council,
where
we
let
people
die
in
alleys,
because
we're
not
doing
our
job
and
I
just
felt.
It
was
important
to
say
that
it's
quite
harrowing
reading
these
reports
and
right
across
the
public
service.
All
the
different
services
that
we
deliver
have
a
role
to
play
here.
K
P
Speaker
I
had
them
answered.
Actually
mr.
Patrick
and
mr.
Jessop
came
up
to
the
members
lounge
with
me
earlier
and
mr.
Patrick
was
kind
enough
to
explain
to
me
about
this
sole
source
and
how
and
why
and
under
what
circumstances,
the
city
would
be
sole
sourcing
contracts.
So
this
is
a
sole
source
called
non-competitive
agreement,
but
I
understand
why
it
has
to
be
done.
I
also
understand:
there's
very
strict
rules
around
moving
to
a
non-competitive
environment
and
I'm
satisfied
here,
so
I
can
simply
move
that.
Okay,
thank.
A
I
Madam
Speaker
I
do
have
a
motion
and
I
will
explain
to
members
what
this
is.
So
at
government
licensing
committee
committee
replaced
a
number
of
recommendations
from
staff.
Those
recommendations
effectively
said
that
the
city
will
no
longer
issue
licenses
for
payday
loans
that
was
very
similar
to
what
the
staff
were
providing.
However,
this
particular
motion
was
deleted.
This
particular
motion
was
part
of
the
staff
recommendations
and
I
would
like
to
riad
it
I
believe
it
will
not
change
the
spirit
of
the
outcome
of
the
committee's
recommendations.
I
All
it
simply
does
is
allow
for
the
fees
to
escalate
over
time
that
are
charged
to
the
payday
loans.
I
think
it
was
just
an
oversight
of
the
committee
that
we
didn't
catch,
that
this
piece
was
missing,
although
I
had
some
concerns
with
the
way
that
we
arrived
at
the
policy
outcome
of
the
committee
I
believe
that
the
general
intent
of
the
policy
is
still
there
before
us
and
would
urge
members
to
support
the
addition
of
the
original
staff
recommendation,
which
is
recommendation
number
four.
I
If
you
have
the
report
in
front
of
you,
this
motion
was
lifted
directly
from
it
and
is
something
that
is
needed
to
correct
it
other
than
that
I
be
voting
against
one
of
the
items.
This
is
personally
where
we
call
upon
the
province
to
set
a
cap
on
the
interest
rate
of
payday
loan
establishments
of
30
percent.
That
was
a
recommendation
of
the
committee,
not
a
staff
recommendation.
I
will
put
two
members
of
council
that,
although
I
harbor
great
concerns
as
many
people
do
with
the
way
that
payday
loan
establishments.
I
Provide
services
and
how
expensive
the
interest
rates
are.
I
do
believe
that
a
fixed
interest
rate,
as
suggested
by
the
by
the
committee,
is
something
that
is
that
would
cease
the
operation
of
the
payday
loans
if
it
if
it
happened
and
I
would
give
the
thought
experiment
of
if
those
establishments
were
to
close,
it
doesn't
get
rid
of
the
need
of
some
people
to
get
short-term
loans.
I
Low
value
loans,
and
the
fear
is,
is
that
people
would
then
turn
to
the
underground
were
unregulated
places
to
get
that
type
of
money
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
are
acting
in
the
best
interest.
That
way
so
I'm
going
to
ask
to
vote
on
that
particular
item
separately
and
I.
Do
hope.
Council
supports
the
rien
of
this
particular
element
because
I
think
it's
important
and
and
was
missed
from
the
recommendations
going
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank.
L
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
I
would
encourage
all
members
of
council
to
vote
in
support
of
the
recommendations
coming
from
committee.
They
were
largely
informed
by
way
of
combination
of
the
staff
report,
but
also
I
think
very
strong
amendments
that
came
from
members
of
ACORN.
A
organization
has
been
around
for
a
number
of
years
that
specifically
worked
to
it
to
support
members
that
are
low-income
across
the
city
and,
and
they
do
so.
L
Madam
Speaker
is
because
they
know
that
the
low-income
members
and
residents
across
the
city
are
unduly
targeted
by
payday
lenders,
and
these
predatory
lenders
go
into
neighborhoods,
especially
neighborhoods,
that
are
low-income
and
they
create
an
ecosystem
and
a
chain
of
them
that
sort
of
wrap
around
each
other
in
neighborhoods.
That
sort
of
force,
individuals
who
are
living
check
to
check
and
who
are
working,
precarious
wages
who
need
to
make
ends
meet
but
they're
also
charged
exorbitant
fees.
L
So
this
community
has
been
waiting
a
very
long
time
and
I
think
that
it's
actually
it's
important
for
us
to
to
recognize
is
that
a
decade
has
almost
gone
by
since
their
work
has
since
they've
been
advocating.
For
some
of
these
changes
around
minimum
separation
distances
around
caps
on
a
number
of
them.
L
You
are
confining
people
in
to
a
web
of
debt
forever
and
we
have
the
ability
to
do
something
about
that
right
now.
So
obviously
there's
a
responsibility
here
at
the
City
of
Toronto.
We
should
take
forceful
action
because
we
need
to
protect
low-income,
vulnerable
communities,
but
let's
also
take
a
look
at
the
structural
system
that
actually
keeps
them
where
they
are
and
why
they
are
relying
on
these
predatory
lenders.
L
Banks
across
the
country
do
not
want
to
lend
to
a
number
of
people
they
can
see
if
they
consider
them
credit
credit
not
worthy
based
on
the
criterias
that
they've
set
up,
but
it's
actually
government
and
government
legislation
that
gives
the
power
to
the
bank
to
make
these
loans.
They
don't
do
it
on
their
own
without
government
legislation.
So
there
is
a
role
here,
madam
speaker,
for
the
federal
government
to
step
in
to
mandate
that
federally
regulated
banks,
credit
unions
and
financial
institutions.
L
Services
should
provide
low-interest
loans
to
these
individuals
because
they
are
making
record
profits
year
after
year
and
offsetting
the
balance
sheet.
Madam
Speaker,
they
should
be
able
to
provide
a
low
income
interest,
low
low
interest
loans
to
low
income
individuals,
so
that
everybody
in
this
country,
regardless
of
where
they
are,
has
access
equitable
access
to
some
form
of
credit
and
madam
Speaker.
The
other
thing
is
that
the
province
has
a
role
to
play,
so
the
city
needs
to
do
is
part.
L
The
federal
government
needs
to
do
is
part,
but
the
province
has
a
role
play
and
if
we
don't
pick
a
number
to
determine
where
the
caps
are
for
the
interest
rate,
I
will
tell
you
ma'am
Speaker
the
lobby
that
actually
that's
advocating
for
these
predatory
lenders
and
payday
lenders.
They
will
tell
you
that
it's
not
enough
that
the
risk
is
too
high.
They
need
to
offset
their
business
losses
and
case
someone
defaults
on
their
loans
and,
madam
Speaker.
That
would
be
the
wrong
way
to
go.
L
So
we
should
set
a
standard,
even
if
what
we
do
is
make
the
request,
which
is
why
I
think
we
need
to
adopt
the
recommendations
coming
from
committee
and
let
the
province
then
determine
and
respond
to
what
we
asked
for,
not
necessarily
saying
we
don't
want
to
set
the
standard,
let
the
province.
Do
it
we're
making
the
request
the
province
can
always
say
no,
but
we
draw
a
line
in
the
sand
based
on
consultation
and
engagement
with
the
community
most
harmed
on
a
regular
basis
and
that's
by
our
way
how
we
stand
up
for
them.
C
C
People
will
go
from
one
and
then
to
the
next
and
then
to
the
next
and
the
burden
of
debt
just
keeps
building
up
and
up
and
up
that.
That
is
their
existence
and
and
and
they
will
never
get
out
of
that-
and
you
don't
see
them
in
areas
that
are
becoming
gentrified.
I
can
tell
you
I've,
seen
strips
like
st.
Clare
West
in
other
areas,
where
there
used
to
be
more
and
as
the
area's
gentrified
they
go.
Okay,
we
want
to
go
after
other
vulnerable
people.
C
C
Just
hope
that,
by
moving
forward
with
the
restrictions
that
we're
putting
on
them
by
the
requests
that
we're
asking
of
the
other
orders
of
government
to
support
us
by
by
reining
in
these
these
excessive
interest
payments
that
they
demand
and
are
allowed
to
demand
that
we
are
that
we
as
a
Toronto
Council,
are
telling
payday
lenders
that
if
your
business
is
all
about
exploiting
people,
then
we
don't
support
you
doing
business
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
D
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
just
want
to
urge
members
of
council
to
support
the
recommendations
coming
out.
As
a
committee,
we
had
a
very
thorough
and
thoughtful
discussion,
a
very
good
debate
and
we
were
very
much
guided
by
the
experience
of
councillors
such
as
yourself,
madam
Speaker,
who,
for
a
very
long
time,
have
been
advocating
for
those
who
are
victims
of
payday
loans
and
trying
to
bring
in
measures
to
improve
that
situation,
and
so
I
think
we
came
up
with
an
excellent
set
of
recommendations.
D
A
P
I
did
try
to
release
that
earlier.
But,
yes,
you
have
made
me,
wait,
I'm,
sorry!
So,
yes
I'm
going
to
just
release
that
and
again
say
that
I've
had
mr.
patchak
come
down
to
really
talk
about
what
a
sole
sources
and
under
what
circumstances
we
would
sole
source
something.
What
a
non-competitive
contract
is
so
I
understand
we're
exempting.
D
A
T
T
T
A
T
T
You're
not
through
you
mystery.
Why
don't
we
give
this
a
try
and,
let's
see
how
we
go
so
I
just
want
to
just
lay
the
groundwork
for
the
legal
framework
on
what
we're
working
with
now
the
the
province,
the
Ministry
of
Transportation,
has
has
changed
the
regulations
to
allow
me
scootering
or
at
least
allow
municipalities
to
develop
a
local
framework
to
make
it
legal.
H
So
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
my
understanding
is
that
the
province
of
Ontario
is
amending
the
Highway
Traffic
Act
for
the
purposes
of
allowing
a
scooters
on
a
pilot
basis,
I
believe
it's
a
five
year
pilot.
At
the
same
time,
we
are
talking
about
what
mechanisms
necessary
the
municipality
would
have
to
deal
with
particularly
commercial
operators
of
East
scooters,
where
we
run
the
risk
of
seeing
a
proliferation
on
our
public
right-of-way.
So.
T
H
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
the
the
MTR,
the
HTA,
governs
the
conduct
on
the
roadways,
I
believe
the
staff
and
once
they
get
here
there
and
their
way
down
can
speak
to
whether
or
not
we're
implementing
anything
from
a
policy
perspective
for
a
personal
scooter
being
used
in
cycle
lanes.
I'll
have
to
defer
to
them
on
that,
but
certainly
our
interest
is
in
the
the
commercial
operations
of
East
scooters,
as
we've
seen
in
many
other
there's
transportation,
barber
running
as
we've
seen
in
many
other
jurisdictions
where
they've
happened.
H
There
is
a
concern
for
us
about
commercial
operators
allowing
the
East
scooters
to
be
left
on
the
public,
right-of-way
and
obstructing
sidewalks.
That's
where
the
municipal
role
absolutely
is
critical
and
Barbara
may
be
able
to
answer
the
question
in
respect
to
any
other
additional
municipal
regulations
required
beyond
the
HTA
and
us
needing
to
regulate
commercial
operators.
Yes,.
T
R
The
speakers,
so
the
the
province
is
still
in
the
process
of
crafting
their
response
back.
So
at
this
point,
while
there
have
been
an
initiative
in
initial
statements
about
speed
and
there's
been
initial
statements
about
how
they're
going
to
kind
of
navigate
the
rules,
they
have
not
actually
come
back
to
us
with
the
formal
proclamation
of
what
they're
going
to
do.
We
believe
it
will
be
a
five-year
pilot.
R
We
have,
as
you
know,
sent
back
recommendations
and
I
think
we
circulated
them
about
having
a
lower
speed
so
that
we
can
manage
some
of
the
safety
issues
that
we've
seen
in
other
jurisdictions.
Our
interest
is
in
having
a
scooters
if
and
when
they
get
deployed
in
Toronto
to
be
a
speed
compatible
with
with
cycling,
because
they
would
likely
be
sharing
the
cycling
facilities
so.
T
So
right
now
we
don't
know
what
powers
we
might
have
in
regulating
the
industry
once
it
becomes
local.
In
other
words,
we
don't
know
whether
we
could
cap
the
speed
limit.
We
don't
know
whether
we
can
make
helmets
mandatory
and
we
don't
know
well.
We
certainly
will
have
the
power
on
where
they
can
be
parked
through.
R
Through
through
the
speakers,
certainly,
if
the
province
does
choose
to
set
restrictions
of
that
type
and
does
require
cities
to
follow
those
restrictions,
we
would
certainly
be
held
to
that
standard.
Many
other
locations
have
had
local
control
in
terms
of
defining
what
kind
of
rules
and
regulations
they
can
apply
and
we're
hopeful
that
we
can.
We
can
have
that
control
so
that
we
can
create
a
program.
That's
gonna
work
for
trial,
so.
T
R
Through
the
speaker,
what
what
they
come
back
with
in
terms
of
the
regulatory
environment
or
the
framework
for
this
pilot
that
they
want
to
move
forward.
Well,
once
we
have
that
back,
we
will
have
a
lot
more
information
about
how
we
can
how
we
can
operate
and
what
our
role
as
a
city
is
going
to
be
based
on
what
we've
learned
from
other
jurisdictions
and
we've
done
some
pretty
extensive
research.
R
T
R
With
regard
to
what
the
restrictions
are,
obligations
of
the
private
company
will
be
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question.
Certainly
individual
people
who
get
hurt
within
the
public
right-of-way
will
have
the
same
rights
that
they
have
with
with
any
other
kind
of
crash
related
to
coming
back
to
the
city
and
ask
me
for
some
type
of
go
compensation.
The
question
was
about.
O
R
O
Cuz
there
seems
to
be
a
number
of
items
in
the
letter
where
we
differ
from
the
province
around.
They
want
a
five-year
pilot
project.
We
want
a
two-year
pilot
project.
One
of
the
other
concerns
I
guess
I
have
is
around
indemnification.
A
lot
of
the
reading.
I've
read
around
I'll
use
bird,
for
example.
This
seems
to
be
one
of
the
largest
scooter
operators
around
the
world.
They
seem
to
operate
around
the
common
complaint.
I
see
around
indemnification.
Is
they
operate
on
an
ironclad
waiver
that
people
have
to
sign
so
the
municipality?
R
O
And
so
I
guess
one.
The
first
recommendation
is
says:
this
is
gonna,
come
back
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
2019.
So
at
that
point,
are
you
expecting
to
have
a
response
back
from
this
letter
from
the
province
and
then
taking
the
back
or
motions
from
this
motion
this
meeting
to
move
for
to
the
next
phase
so.
R
We
we
are
anticipating,
although
we
don't
know
for
sure,
when
the
province
is
going
to
come
back
with
the
regulation.
As
I
mentioned,
we
are
putting
together
kind
of
the
parameters
for
what
we
see
as
a
programmatic
approach
to
engaging
with
a
commercial
operator
around
these
scooters,
and
we
are
we're
looking
to
have
that
back
to
Council
by
the
December
timeframe.
Okay,.
O
R
Just
to
be
clear,
our
interest
is,
and
not
our
interest
is
in
having
speeds
that
are
compatible
with
cycling,
we're
certainly
aware
of
and
looking
into
issues
related
to
safety
and
accessibility
and
other
components.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
whatever
program
does
move
forward
for
Toronto,
it's
one
that
we've
presented
thoroughly
to
this
council
and
we've
vetted
and
it
will
be
successful.
Okay,.
O
Because
one
of
the
the
articles
I
was
reading
about
bird
I,
think
in
New,
York,
City
or
bird
worldwide
has
a
program
called
save
our
sidewalk,
where
they
make
a
commitment
to
send
in
the
municipality
a
dollar
per
day
for
every
vehicle,
a
dollar
per
day
per
vehicle,
that's
I
used
and
that
money's
put
towards
improving
cycling
infrastructure.
That's
something
that
we
could
look
at.
M
R
O
Right
and
then
I
guess,
my
last
question
was
around
helmets
and
tourists
seem
to
really
like
these
scooters.
They
don't
not
wearing
helmets.
The
hope
when
she
seems
because
the
greatest
amount
of
injuries
from
the
reading
I've
done
is
that
something
we'll
be
looking
at
doing
how
we
incorporate
the
ability
for
people
they
wear
helmets
or
should
be
wearing
helmets
or
how
they
get
access
to
helmets.
We've.
R
K
R
Through
this
speaker,
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
different
models.
There
one
is
that
there's
a
structured
enough
engagement
with
the
commercial
operator
that
we
track.
We
have
enough
data
to
be
able
to
track
the
location
of
those
and
have
an
agreement
about
how
we
settle
issues
related
to
the
improper
placement
of
the
vehicles
on
the
sidewalk
there's
different
things
during
the
day.
Sometimes
it's
just
the
use
which
might
be
by
an
individual
person.
If
we
are
clear
about
how
we
mark
out
places
where
scooters
I'm.
K
R
K
R
K
H
Yeah,
so
through
you,
madam
Speaker
I
would
expect
this
transportation
a
municipal
licensing.
Our
standards
are
talking
about
the
issue
about
commercial
operation,
that
a
consideration
to
holding
the
platform
and
the
supplier
of
the
East
scooters
would
certainly
be
part
of
that
regulatory
framework
and.
H
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
somehow
I
knew.
That
was
the
question
that
was
going
to
be
asked.
Councillor
perks,
you
know
quite
frankly,
I
think
we've
done
quite
a
fine
job
at
regulating
the
private
transportation
company
companies
operating
in
the
city
and
I
would
expect
an
equally
successful
regulatory
framework
if
necessary
and
appropriate
to
address
East
kut'rs.
Well,
you.
T
T
I'm,
not
I'm
not
really
quite
sure
how
to
answer
that,
but
that
was
the
respondent
we
banned
guns
today,
handguns
today.
So
with
this,
this
was
extremely
popular
among
their
peer
groups,
but
I
had
an
opportunity.
I
was
in
Denver
this
summer
at
a
conference
and
Denver
is
scooter
city
and
I
saw
first
hand.
First
of
all
accentuate
the
positive
people
getting
around
easily
having
lots
of
fun.
It
was
great
to
see
the
cyclists,
the
scooters
people
jogging-
it's
just
a
beautiful
city,
to
see
this
kind
of
outdoor
activity.
T
At
the
same
time,
I
saw
the
negative
side
of
it,
and
many
of
these
scooters
were
blocking
the
public
right-of-way.
They
were
tipped
over
on
the
sidewalks.
They
were
impeding
the
easy
access
to
buildings
and
there
was
a
actually
a
lot
of
problems
with
that,
and
many
people
who
are
seniors
who
have
mobility
issues
who
are
disabled
would
certainly
find
the
piles
of
scooters
that
we
saw
in
Denver
very
intimidating
and
just
downright
rude.
T
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
through
our
committee
through
Council,
is
to
get
it
right
is
to
make
sure
that
we
go
slow
to
make
sure
that
we
take
all
the
precautions
we
can
to
ensure
that
people
can
have
easy
access
to
a
fun,
inexpensive
way
of
travel
and,
at
the
same
time,
make
sure
that
they
are
not
blocking
the
public
right-of-way.
They
are
not
impeding
the
ability
of
seniors
and
others
with
mobility
issues,
and
actually
it
will
block
anyone
with
the
scooters
tipped-over
on
the
sidewalk.
T
Well,
it
may
seem
draconian
is
better
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we
get
this
right,
that
we
introduce
these
scooters
to
our
city
that,
but
at
the
same
time
we
make
sure
that
people
understand
the
rules
of
the
road
that
were
respecting
the
public
right-of-way
and
we're
making
sure
that
we
reduce
the
number
of
injuries
but
at
the
same
time
offer
a
cheap,
inexpensive
and
effective
way
to
get
that
last
mile
to
get
around
short
distances
and
and
to
have
fun
at
the
same
time.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
K
Thank
you
very
much
so
speaker
I
could
go
out
canvassing
every
night
for
the
rest
of
my
life
and
ask
somebody:
do
you
think
the
City
of
Toronto
provides
adequate
transportation
services
right
now
in
terms
of
the
use
of
the
road
space?
Do
we
do
it
safely
and
I
couldn't
I
would
never
find
a
person
who
says
the
way
we
use
our
right-of-way
right
now
is
safe.
K
If
I
was
standing
here
today,
and
we
had
the
minimum
grid
of
fully
separated
bike
lanes
that
cycling
activists
have
been
asking
for
us
if
I
was
standing
here
today
and
we
weren't
experiencing
record
numbers
of
pedestrian
fatalities
in
City
of
Toronto
streets.
If
I
was
standing
here
today
and
I
knew
I
had
the
resources
to
implement
vision,
zero
to
the
satisfaction
of
all
Torontonians
I.
Might
turn
my
mind
to
opening
up
city
streets
to
e
scooters,
but
no
we're
nowhere
near
any
of
that.
K
What
is
happening
here
is
the
same
thing
that
happened
with
uber.
It's
the
same
thing
that
happened
with
air
B&B.
It's
the
same
thing
that
happens
whenever
some
large
group
of
venture
capitalists
figure
out
I
have
a
way
to
make
some
money
off
public
infrastructure
and
damn
the
consequences.
I
have
absolutely
zero
tolerance,
patience
or
willingness
to
take
an
already
dangerous
city
street
and
make
it
more
dangerous
so
that
a
venture
capitalist
whose
invest
in
Annie
scooter
company
makes
more
money.
K
If
city
staff
can
show
me
that
they
have
a
way
to
hold
those
venture
capitalists
to
account
for
any
consequence,
they
create
in
our
transportation
network,
maybe
I'd
be
a
little
bit
more
open
to
it,
but
I
know
from
long
bitter
experience
that
those
guys
write
the
rules.
The
rules
that
govern
taxi
drivers
right
now
are
weaker
than
they
were
before.
K
Uber
came
in
the
guarantees
we
provide
to
people
who
are
riding
in
a
taxi.
Not
even
an
uber
are
not
as
good
as
they
used
to
be.
This
is
part
of
a
downward
spiral,
which
is
all
about
letting
people
make
more
money
off
inadequate
public
infrastructure
and
I,
don't
believe
for
a
minute.
We're
gonna
find
the
legal
tools
to
protect
Torontonians.
K
It's
actually
something
we
should
be
reducing
the
use
of
so
using
electricity
to
replace
transit,
walking
and
cycling.
Trips
has
no
real
benefit
to
the
larger
society
and
I'm.
You
know
as
much
as
councilor
Pasternak's
kids
will
feel
that
we
are
killjoys
that's
much
better
than
having
more
people
killed
on
city
of
toronto,
streets.
O
O
There
are
a
lot
of
fun,
I've
seen
videos
of
them,
and
then
we
have
a
letter
that
we
wrote
to
the
province
outlining
our
concerns
and
when
you
look
at
safety
issues
and
they
use
the
example
of
to
UCLA
hospitals
and
in
2019,
Falls
accounted
for
80%
of
injuries
by
youth,
scooter,
riders,
common
injuries
included,
head
40%
fractures,
thirty-two
contain
contusions,
sprains
lacerations,
and
these
are
injuries
not
just
common
to
Los
Angeles
in
every
city
that
East
scooters
have
been
put
in
around
the
world.
These
are
consistent
injuries,
you're
talking
about
getting
on
any
scooter.
O
O
They
came
to
our
city
just
this
morning
in
the
global
nail,
there's
a
half
page
article
and
it's
entitled
what
Canada
can
expect
after
Berlin's
Rockies
scooter
rollout
when
we
talk
about
rolling
at
this
program
out
slowly
and
safely,
Berlin
who's
had
East
scooters
for
just
under
six
months.
Their
initial
allotment
by
the
first
company
was
two
hundred
scooters.
Here
we
are
six
months
later
they
have
over
six
thousand
scooters
on
the
streets
of
Berlin,
so
it
was
hardly
a
safe,
slow,
methodical
rollout.
O
We
often
hear
of
injuries
with
people
in
our
bike
lanes
streets
without
bike
lanes,
throw
in
a
mix
Berlin's
the
same
size
of
the
city,
Toronto,
roughly
throw
in
6,000
e
scooters
into
that
mix
as
well.
So
I
think
we
do
have
a
lot
of
issues
that
we
need
to
look
at.
I
mentioned
indemnification,
a
number
of
the
scooter
companies
they're
all
very
good
I'm,
making
sure
any
indemnification.
Illegal
issues
don't
fall
on
their
doorstep.
O
They
fall
on
them
on
the
on
the
host
municipality,
as
I
mentioned
safety
issues
around
helmets,
bird,
for
example,
one
of
the
larger
companies
had
so
much
trouble
in
New,
York,
City,
trying
to
roll
out
a
scooter
program
or
talking
about
rolling
out
a
scooter
program.
They
actually
created
this
save
our
sidewalk
program.
Were
they
a
lot
a
dollar
per
day
or
per
scooter
that
gets
rented
out?
Maybe
that's
something
we
should
be
looking
here
in
the
city
as
we
try
and
improve
our
infrastructure
program.
O
I
look
forward
to
the
report
in
the
next
quarter
of
2019,
but
once
again,
this
is
all
about
adventure
versus
safety.
As
a
municipality,
you
want
to
make
sure
your
residents
are
having
fun
and
tourists
are
enjoying
the
city,
but
I
also
have
a
very
strong
obligation
to
ensure
that
the
safety
of
our
residents
and
people
on
our
streets
is
maintained.
Thank
you.
D
Q
A
Q
Is
to
amend
the
infrastructure
environment
committee
recommendation
by
adding
the
words
until
such
time
as
the
report
and
recommendation
when
above
can
be
considered
by
the
appropriate
committee.
I'll
explain
that
in
a
second
first
like
this
technology
is,
is
springing
up
all
over
the
city
and
we
have
an
opportunity
right
now.
Q
Unlike
the
situation
with
Ober
and
Airbnb,
we
have
an
opportunity
right
now
to
have
a
dialogue
to
deuce.
Do
our
research
in
advance
in
advance
of
the
commercial
commercialization
of
this
technology
and
potentially
of
a
public
space
now
I
know
many
of
you
probably
wouldn't
have
struggled
with
this
on
a
regular
basis,
but
even
citing
our
own
cycling
infrastructure
is
not
without
contention.
Q
Although
I
don't
hold
much
faith
that
they'll
get
it
right,
they
are
responsible
for
it,
but
then
we're
gonna
have
to
have
our
consideration
after
after
they
do
their
due
diligence.
At
committee,
I
amended
the
motion
to
ensure
that
staff
were
discussing
the
issue
of
right-of-way
manage
in
it
within
the
public
right-of-way,
where
these
vehicles
are
stored,
with
the
Shah
no
parking
at
authority
and
I
did
that
very
deliberately
part
of
it
is
I,
see
this
as
a
micro
mobility
extension
of
our
bike
share
program.
Q
My
first
choice
would
be
not
to
open
our
market
up
to
these
profits
to
the
private
sector
instead
to
incorporate
that
technology
into
our
existing
fleet.
For
a
number
of
reasons,
one
I
think
we
do
well
I
think
we'd
make
money,
and
two
is
the
demands
that
I've
seen
for
space
in
our
right-of-way
cannot
facilitate
multiple,
multiple
operators
in
this
space,
or
else
we
will
not
have
any
space
for
patios.
We
will
not
have
any
space
for
parking
meters.
We
will
not
have
any
space
for
offer
for
our
bike.
Our
bike
share
facilities.
Q
N
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
can,
if
I
can
have
the
motion
up
again,
I'll
appreciate
it
counselor
you're,
asking
that
we
prohibit
the
use
of
e
scooters
on
the
city
sidewalks.
Now
these
are
companies
that
are
trying
to
come
in
for
us
to
use
them,
but
there
is
individuals
that
have
that
are
using
these
scooters.
N
A
N
N
Q
K
Thank
You
councillor
Layton,
so
if
I
understand
the
difference
between
the
advice
that
came
from
committee
and
what
you
are
moving,
the
advice
from
we
from
committee
is
put
in
this
bylaw
and
then
report
back
and
if
they
have,
you
know
a
different
way.
They
want
to
do
it.
We
amend
the
bylaw
that
if
I
read
what
yours
does,
it
says
the
minute:
a
report
lands
at
committee.
The
bylaw
is
lifted
now.
K
I'm
it,
your
motion
doesn't
say,
send
a
signal.
Your
motion
says:
when
can
I,
have
it
back
up
until
such
time
as
the
report
and
recommendation
can
be
considered
by
the
appropriate
committee
and
City
Council,
so
that
doesn't
say
we
actually
change
any
thing
or
come
up
with
a
new
regulatory
framework.
Q
K
Q
Doesn't,
though,
because
I
think
it's
the
third
part
of
the
motion
that
has
the
the
indication
that
we
should
enact
bylaws
it
doesn't
in
this
case
I,
don't
I,
don't
say,
repeal
the
bylaws.
Certainly
the
intent
isn't
to
automatically
remove
the
remove
the
the
existing
bylaws
and
I
get
some
clarification.
So.
K
Yes,
madam
Speaker,
madam
Speaker,
councilor,
late
and
I
are
having
a
little
bit
of
lack
of
clarity
here.
My
understanding
is
under
the
procedure.
Bylaw.
If
counsel
is
not
sure
what
the
effect
of
something
is,
it
can
ask
for
advice
of
the
clerk.
My
reading
of
this
is
the
way
councilor
blatant
has
written
it
that
once
something
comes
to
council.
K
K
D
A
Q
On
a
point
of
art,
to
be
honest,
I'm
not
particularly
passionately
moving
this
motion
that
will
really
have
no
effect,
except
for
send
a
signal
that
at
some
point
in
time
in
the
near
future,
we
will
reconsider
this
and
perhaps
lift
some
of
these
restrictions,
so
I'll
gladly
with
that
being
said,
withdraw
the
motion.
Thank
you.
Thank
You,
counselor.
A
Q
A
B
Because,
like
councilor
perks,
said
there's
a
need
for
clarity
here,
I
just
support
the
committee
recommendation
and
I
really
urge
members
of
council
as
councillor
Ansley
mentioned.
This
is
a
precarious,
no
pun
intended
Road
we're
going
down,
because
you
know
our
Transportation
Department
and
the
residents
of
Toronto
have
got
their
hands
full
in
terms
of
being
able
to
navigate
the
streets
and
the
sidewalks
of
Toronto.
So
whatever
we
do,
we
just
got
to
make
sure
that
we
take
that
into
account.
B
I
mean
right
now,
I'm
sure
the
number
one
call
I'm
getting
in
my
office
for
the
last
five
months.
Besides,
the
shooting
calls
has
been
the
ones
about
traffic
so
that
they
feel
that
there's
too
much
speeding,
there's
too
many
cement
trucks.
There's
too
many
unsafe
intersections.
They
want
crossing
guards
the
schools,
safety
zones
aren't
safe,
so
I
just
think
that's
what's
got
to
be
paramount.
B
Here
is
because
I
don't
think
that
the
city
and
the
residents
can
handle
any
more
jeopardy
any
more
uncertainty
and
trying
to
just
walk
down
the
street
or
trying
to
cross
the
street
or
never
my
trying
to
drive.
So
that's
why
I
support
the
staff
recommendation
and
we've
got
to
be
very,
very
cautious,
I
think
councillor
Pasternak
voice
the
same,
you
know
opinion.
So,
let's
really
think
of
the
people
who
are
right
now
really
stressed
out
about
doing
things
that
they
thought
were
routine
walking
down
the
street
to
get
a
bag
apples.
A
J
So
speaker
there
they
are,
it's
just
you
know
impart
as
an
add
on
adding
on
some
literature
to
to
one
of
the
recommendations
where,
where
we
endeavor
to
educate
people
about
you,
know
the
some
of
the
perils
of
of
high
interest
and
and
some
counseling
around,
you
know
some
some
focuses
financial
options.
It
adds
a
recommendation
just
simply
asking
the
federal
government,
along
with
some
of
the
other,
asks
to
also
engage
partners,
such
as
credit
unions
in
providing
some
of
the
services
to
our
residents.
J
The
there's
a
third
motion
which
is
standalone,
which
asks
our
executive
director
of
Social,
Development,
Finance
and
Administration
to
engage
partners
such
as
credit
unions
and
so
on
in
in
trying
to
to
leverage
some
of
the
services
that
that
they
might
be
able
to
provide
to
Torontonians
in
trying
to
also
diminish
some
of
the
perils
of
payday
loan
type
loans
and
there's
a
there's.
A
motion
there
that
basically
seeks
to
to
have
the
City
of
Toronto
prohibit
a
payday
loan
establishments,
cash-for-gold
vendors
and
pawn
shops,
and
so
on.
From
advertising
on
on
on
city
property.
J
I'll
speak
to
those
in
just
a
second
speaker
and
I
just
want
to
basically
on
you
know
outline.
Why
are
we
doing
this?
Why
are
we?
Why
are
we
going
out
and
saying,
and
we
want
to
more
regular,
the
regular
rigorously
regulate
these
folks?
Well
it!
Well,
it's
simple
I!
You
know
someone
comes
in
for
an
installment
loan
and
the
criminal
rate
of
interest
is
60%,
so
these
payday
loan
establishments
are
able
to
charge
somebody
somebody
or
in
the
neighborhood
of
of
60%
interest
on
a
on
an
installment
loan.
J
When
you
look
at
payday
loans,
for
example,
and
$15
per
hundred
dollars,
you
translate
that
out
into
an
annual
interest
you
go
in
for
a
payday
loan.
You
know
sort
of
looked
seeking
for
some
cash
to
be
able
to
pay
your
rent,
buy
your
groceries,
fix
your
car
you're
charged
an
interest
rate
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
three
hundred
and
ninety
percent,
because
they're
exempted
from
the
criminal
rate
of
interest
and
the
rest
of
us
should
just
simply
say:
you
know
what
it's
okay
for
somebody
to
be
charged.
Three
hundred.
J
N
T
J
Thank
you,
speaker,
I'm,
so
sorry
that
I
said
that
sometimes
you
know
there's
a
disconnect
between
you
know
my
brain
and
my
mouth
and
I
and
I
take
that
back.
If,
if
I,
if
I,
if
I
offended
counselor,
past
and
I
can
anyway,
all
I'm
saying
speaker
is
this-
is
that
these
places
have
a
tendency
to
cluster
in
low-income
neighborhoods
they
take
advantage
of
our
poor
and
and
they
make
their
life
harder.
J
You
know
lots
of
cash,
hundred-dollar
bills,
for
gold
and
and
and
while
I
know,
that
we
look
at
that,
and
we
look
at
those
advertisements
and
we
look
at
those
commercials
and
we
all
like
in
tunki
tongue
and
cheek
chuckle
about
them.
But
when
you
allow
them
on
public
property,
you
give
that
activity
a
type
of
legitimacy.
A
kind
of
you
know
sort
of
symbolic
presence
that
that
that
activity
is
okay
and
and
I
understand
it,
and
some
people,
you
know,
will
be
desperate
for
cash
and
they'll.
J
I
I
Counselor
Prusa
did
address
it
towards
the
end
of
this
speech,
but
I
just
want
to
go
over
that.
The
last
item
number
four
talks
about
prohibiting
ads
on
agencies,
boards
and
commissions,
which
I
will
take
to
read
TTC
buses,
because
Council
fruits
have
brought
it
up
and
wonder
if
the
councillor
could
clarify
whether
or
not
those
businesses
have
done
something
wrong.
I
J
So
so
not
that
those
businesses
have
done
anything
wrong,
but
I,
remember
being
on
the
TTC
and
I
was
chairing
the
advertising
committee,
for
example,
and
there
was
a
service.
I
was
an
internet
service.
Essentially
hadn't
done
anything
wrong,
but
there
was
a
a
moral
issue
at
play.
I
forget
what
the
name
of
the
service
was
I,
think
it
connected
it
connected
married
people
to
other
married
people
and,
and
what
was
the
name
of
that
thing-
Ashley
Madison,
that's
it
and
Ashley
Madison
created
a
considerable
amount
of
controversy.
Were
they
doing
anything
wrong?
J
What
I'm
saying
is
no,
have
those
businesses
done
anything
wrong,
but
they
haven't
done
anything
wrong
but-but-but.
What
we're
doing
is
we're
giving
them
a
kind
of
legitimacy
that,
on
one
hand,
we're
saying
you
know
what
you
shouldn't
be
taking
advantage
of
of
people
in
this
way
and,
on
the
other
hand,
we're
saying
it's
okay
for
you
advertise
on
the
back
of
a
bus
and
give
you
that
that
public
legitimacy
that
that,
on
one
hand
which
we're
we're
saying,
is
it's
not.
Okay,
do.
J
I
think
we
did
it
with
Ashley
Madison
I
think
we
I
think
we
can
prohibit
anybody
from
advertising
you
through
a
pub
through
a
policy
statement
from
being
able
to
to
allow
them
to
advertise
on
our
you
know,
skating,
rink,
boards
or,
or
you
know,
on
our
public
library
materials
or
on
the
backs
of
buses.
Okay,.
B
J
Disagree
with
that
and
normally
I'm
I'm
like-minded
in
that
way.
But
here
in
this
report,
we
are
saying
very
clearly
that
payday
lenders
and
some
of
these
other
folks
are
taking
advantage
of
some
of
the
residents
in
the
city
by
charging
them
exorbitantly
high
rates
of
interest
when
they
come
in
to
borrow
money
and
so
on.
J
So
we're
saying
that's
wrong:
we're
finding
ways
to
limit
them
to
regulate
them,
to
limit
their
expansion
through
a
licensing
regime
that
we're
bringing
in
so
on
one
hand,
we're
saying
that,
but
on
the
other
hand,
we're
saying
it's
okay
for
you
to
to
be
on
a
library,
you
know,
sort
of
library,
brochure
or
a
or
a
TTC
bus,
or
on
one
of
our
skating,
rinks
and
or
in
whatever.
Okay.
You
know:
advertising
your
services,
I.
I
A
A
A
I
So
I'll
explain
very
quickly,
I'm
happy
to
support
the
report
as
written.
This
is
an
additional
request
for
a
report
back
and
it's
around
construction
management
plans.
It's
a
learning
that
I
had
from
a
project
in
in
my
ward,
where
we
worked
really
diligently
with
a
developer
and
what
we
looked
at
closely
was
you
know
how
our
Goods
gonna
come
and
go
from
the
site?
Does
that
conflict
with
school
bus,
drop-off
and
pickup?
Does
it
conflict
with
pedestrian
routes?
You
know
how
would
the
cement
truck
come
through
the
streets?
What
streets
should
it
use?
I
All
the
vendors
and
suppliers
of
the
site
to
use
and
the
neighborhood
had
a
chance
to
go
through
that
and
get
on
board,
and
we
realize
that
you
know
one
street
had
a
sidewalk,
so
that
was
the
one
to
use
and
what
this
is
really
is
asking
our
staff
to
look
at
enhancing
what
they
ask
of
developers
and
constructors
in
their
construction
management
plans,
because
they
don't
ask
a
lot
today
and
I.
Think
there's
room
to
ask
for
more
and
I
will
take
to
heart.
I
You
know
some
recent
news
stories
about
collisions
relating
to
vehicles
associated
with
construction,
and
the
thought
I
had
is
if
we
raise
the
bar
on
the
planning
process
early
on
and
talked
about
how
the
goods
movement
to
and
from
these
sites
could
work
and
could
work
better
to
do
a
little
bit
of
proactive
planning
and
instead
of
doing
an
ad
hoc
on
a
voluntary
basis
like
the
developer
and
my
ward
did
maybe
raise
the
requirements
from
a
city's
perspective.
We
might
have
better
outcomes.
I
So
it's
not
exhaustive,
but
I
hope
you'll
find
that
to
be
a
helpful
motion,
something
that
will
advance
us
as
a
city
from
a
from
a
safety
perspective
and
from
a
community
perspective
because
it
gets
local
residents
in
on
the
conversation
on
how
they're
going
to
cope
with
construction
overtime
in
and
around
their
neighborhoods.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
I
don't
know
if
you're
aware
councillor
that
there
was
a
motion
passed
by
East
York,
Toronto,
City,
Council,
community
council
and
North
York
Council,
dealing
with
a
comprehensive
construction
traffic
management
plan
undertaken
by
our
transportation
department
and
all
the
major
construction
partners
and
the
Toronto
Police.
Are
you
aware
of
those
two
motions
that
have
already
been
passed
by
the
two
committee
County.
I
Yeah,
that's
great
I,
don't
know
if
it
covers
a
tobiko,
but
the
purpose
of
my
motion
is
not
to
interfere
with
that,
but
to
ensure
that
the
construction
management
plans,
which
are
a
current
process
right
now
and
we're
developers
right
now
on
a
voluntary
basis,
could
articulate
these
type
of
details.
I
want
to
make
that
a
little
bit
more
of
an
entrenched
process
and
I
realize
it
may
come
off
as
a
bit
of
red
tape.
I
But
I
went
through
this
exercise
on
a
recent
development
and
it
has
proven
itself
worthy
of
the
time
spent
upfront
and
I.
Don't
want
to
interfere
with
that
process
and
what's
happening
with
the
industry
and
with
the
city,
but
from
a
very
micro
level
with
staff.
You
know,
I
think
we
can
ask
these
things
of
developers
and
have
those
conversations
upfront
I
can't
see
a
downside,
but.
B
I
Great
but
the
motion
before
us
and
the
item
before
us
is
around
the
bylaws
and
the
plans.
So
you
know
if
it's
redundant
great,
you
know
I
hope
you
support
it.
Maybe
it'll
mesh
together
with
that
process,
but
this
is
one
particular
one
that
was
on
my
radar
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
highlighted
as
part
of
this,
this
this
item
in
this
consideration,
thank.