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Community Development and Recreation Committee, meeting 23, October 23, 2017 - Part 2 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/decisionBodyProfile.do?function=doPrepare&meetingId=11849
Part 1 of 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJRfz37gEd8#t=2m46s
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All
right,
if
members
of
the
committee
could
take
their
seats,
we
now
have
quorum.
Our
chair
is
running
late
and
our
vice
chair
is
also
currently
in
another
commitment.
So
as
the
second
youngest
in
the
room,
sorry
Mike
I
will
take
this
take
the
floor.
We
have
four
items
remaining.
Are
there
any
quick
releases
on
any
of
them
just
give
an
opportunity
on
that
counselor
one
time?
Yes,.
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Nope,
seeing
none
okay,
we're
gonna
start
by
moving
voting
on
on
my
motion
on
behalf
of
councillor
Matt
Lowe.
If
that
can
be
put
on
the
screen,
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
carried
next
we'll
proceed
to
councillor
Avex
motion
on
behalf
of
councillor
Davis,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
if
any
carried
item
as
a
met.
That's
all
we
need
item
as
amended
is
not
necessary.
Okay.
D
E
You
mr.
chair
I
won't
be
brief
on
this
item
as
soon
as
I
get
organized
here,
I
know
so
there's
a
there's,
I
think
four
recommendations
for
Community
Grants
and
that
we
approve
and
I
know
it
was
in
the
report,
but
if
you
could,
if
staff
could
elaborate
on
and
the
methodology,
sorry
the
criteria
not
narrowing
all
these
grants
down.
F
So
through
the
chair
recommendation,
one
provides
recommended
allocations
to
a
number
of
organizations.
Our
allocations
are
dependent
on
first
of
all,
the
criteria
for
the
grant
program,
so
applicants
have
to
demonstrate
that
they
meet
the
minimum
criteria
that
they're
eligible.
We
then
use
a
screen
of
assessment
to
understand
the
relative
priorities
between
multiple
applications,
but
assessment
criteria
would
take
such
things
into
account
as
community
need.
The
number
of
partnerships
involved
in
the
applicant.
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F
E
E
F
F
The
crisis
response
program
and
the
crisis
funding
has
a
number
of
elements,
and
yes,
the
most
well-known
element
is
that
staff
go
in
and
work
with
communities
after
a
violent
event
has
happened.
But
equally
the
program
works
to
on
preventative
measures
in
neighborhoods,
as
well
as
building
the
capacity
of
those
neighborhoods
to
manage
through
violent
events.
There
was
an
amount
of
50,000
reallocated
last
year.
F
The
crisis
response
allocations
have
always
been
a
part
of
the
community
services
grants
the
CPF
budget.
This
is
simply
my
advice
to
counsel
that
we
need
to
reprioritize
within
funding
streams
within
the
overall
envelope
and
be
directing
a
bit
more
funding
to
this
particular
use
because
of
current
situation.
Right.
D
E
Briefly,
mr.
chair
I,
just
I
I
know
that
this
is
a
good
opportunity
for
me
to
speak
about
the
crisis
response
team
that
the
City
of
Toronto
has
you
know
and
I
will
be
very
brief,
but
there's
been
quite
a
spike
of
violence
in
my
neck
of
the
woods
over
the
last
couple
months
and
and
I
I
really
need
to
thank
them.
E
They're
great
work,
I
know
Scott
the
McKeon
and
I
know
Sal
in
my
neighborhood
are
up,
but
I
know
that
sometimes
all
hours
in
the
night
calling
me
I'm
calling
them
so
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity.
I
am
supporting
this
as
a
package,
but
to
really
thank
them
and
the
great
work
they
do
not
only
in
my
community
but
I
know
across
the
city
and
as
these
tragedies
happen,
the
more
people
they
affect
so
and
they
have
their
work
cut
out
for
them,
but
I.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
I'd
also
like
to
add
my
voice
to
councilor
Ford's,
with
extension
of
of
gratitude
to
two
staff
who
work
on
this
file,
the
issue
around
crisis
response
and
and
making
sure
that
the
the
trained
staff
that
we
have
on
hand
have
all
the
resources
they
need
to
respond
to
the
community
in
a
timely
fashion
is
important.
I
also
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
it's
not
easy
work
walking
into
a
community.
That's
actually
just
experienced
some
very
traumatic
incidents
and
coughlin
times
it
comes
with.
A
You
know,
a
lot
of
violence,
violence
that
impacts
not
just
the
family
directly,
but
the
community
at
large
and
and
staff
do
a
fantastic
job
of
that
engagement.
Is
there
a
need
for
more
resources,
absolutely
but
I
think
that
they've
done
more
than
they
can
with
what
the
allocations
they've
had
and
I
just
want
to
say.
Thank
you
to
them.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
You
councillor
long
time,
anybody
else
to
speak.
Seeing
none
I
counts.
Therefore,
did
you
move
the
right
come
to?
The
fort
has
moved
the
staff
recommendation,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
if
any
that
carries.
We've
now
we're
now
moving
on
to
item
CD
23.1
to
managing
refugee
flows,
our
thanks
and
apologies
to
the
number
of
Deputies
who
have
been
with
us
all
day
and
through
lunch
waiting
to
speak.
We
do
have
four
speakers.
Our
first
up
is
Steve
Mar,
the
show
her
manager
at
the
Christie
refugee
Welcome
Center,
located
in
fabulous
420.
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So
I'll
start
with
my
time
so
a
shelter
manager
of
Christie
refugee,
Welcome,
Center,
one
of
six
family
shelters
in
Toronto
and
the
only
emergency
shelter
exclusively
for
refugee
families.
I'd
like
to
address
aspects
of
the
report.
Managing
refugee
flows
and
I'd
also
like
to
draw
attention
to
current
realities
within
Toronto's
emergency
shelter
system,
especially
as
it
relates
to
the
lack
of
shelter
space
for
homeless
families
in
the
city.
For
the
past
year,
family
shelters
in
Toronto
have
been
operating
at
over
100
percent
capacity.
H
So
during
the
past
year,
the
city
has
contracted
275
hotel
rooms,
specifically
for
Refugees,
and
while
this
has
largely
been
viewed
as
a
necessary
immediate
response
to
provide
shelter
for
families
in
need,
the
fact
that
these
rooms
are
full
and
other
homeless
families
are
still
unable
to
secure
referral
for
emergency
shelter
illustrates
just
how
serious
the
Family
Shelter
crisis
has
become.
At
this
point,
does
the
city
need
to
fund
these
existing
rooms
as
a
temporary
measure?
Absolutely,
but
simply
extending
these
hotel
contracts
for
another
year
is
not
sufficient.
H
We
can't
afford
to
continue
with
the
status
quo
and
wait
for
long-term
solutions
to
take
root
when
it
comes
to
sheltering
homeless
families
in
our
city.
This
shelter
crisis
calls
for
more.
So
where
do
we
start?
My
colleagues
will
present
some
recommendations
but
I'd
like
to
deliver
one
personally.
In
my
experience,
homeless,
families
continue
to
lack
access
to
critical
supports
that
are
needed
to
keep
them
safe.
For
example,
the
City
of
Toronto
streets
to
home
assessment
and
referral
center
was
established
to
provide
24/7
relief,
support
and
referrals
for
homeless
women
and
men.
H
Families,
however,
do
not
have
access
to
a
similar
support
which
puts
them
at
tremendous
risk,
especially
as
we
move
into
the
cold
weather
months.
Thus,
I
am
requesting
that
the
City
of
Toronto
moved
to
set
up
an
assessment
and
referral
center
for
families
which
will
provide
a
24/7
safe
space
for
children
and
their
parents
to
access
immediate
supports
and
secure
referral
for
emergency
shelter
until
you've
been
in
our
position
face
to
face
with
traumatized
families,
families
who
have
fled
violence
and
persecution
from
the
other
of
the
world.
H
Families
who
are
seeking
safety
at
your
doorstep
and
begging
for
a
place
to
sleep
until
you've
stood
where
we've
been
standing.
Looking
mothers
and
their
children
in
the
eyes
forced
to
tell
them
that
you
are
unable
to
help,
because
there
is
no
shelter
in
the
city,
and
you
already
have
other
families
sleeping
on
your
couches
and
your
dining
room
floors
until
you've
witnessed
firsthand
the
devastating
consequences
of
a
city
overlooking
its
most
desperate
and
marginalized.
You
have
no
idea
how
truly
heartbreaking
this
situation
has
become.
H
We
are
here
today
asking
you
to
make
changes
now,
so
that
we
don't
spend
another
winter,
turning
our
backs
on
these
families
and
watching
them
disappear
out
in
the
cold.
As
a
city,
we
may
view
our
success
based
on
how
well
we
look
after
our
most
vulnerable
residents
without
question
homeless.
Children
are
among
our
most
at-risk
and
defenseless,
and
we
must
do
more
to
protect
and
care
for
them.
H
I
I
I
As
has
been
indicated
in
the
report,
it
has
been
a
marked
increase
in
the
demand
for
single
beds
for
Refugees
and
refugee
claimants,
and
all
the
shelters
were
operating
at
very
full
capacity.
So
we
worked
with
the
City
of
Toronto
and
they
allowed
us
open,
23
temporary
beds,
which
was
really
a
welcome
factor,
because
many
of
the
refugee
claimants
were
staying
in
mainstream
shelters
where
which
are
not
their
case.
Management
is
really
not
a
yet
to
helping
newcomers
and
refugees.
I
It's
a
different
set
of
of
needs
for
newcomers
and
refugees,
so
2
2015,
12
2015,
the
City
of
Toronto,
allowed
us
to
open
temporary
beds,
23
temporary
beds,
which
was
very
helpful,
particular
for
other
shelters,
which
is
the
beds
for
other
homeless
people.
Many
of
our
clients
when
they
stay
in
many
mainstream
shelters.
I
The
biggest
problem
is
they
are
on
the
street
because
they
are
not
allowed
to
stay
like
in
the
in
the
in
the
building
during
the
day.
So
what
they
do
is
they
just
wander
the
streets
up
to
5
o'clock
and
they
go
back
to
wait
for
bed
in
that
process.
They
are
not
able
to
focus
on
immigration
process,
which
is
their
main
cause.
So
if
they
are
just
hopping
from
shelter
to
shelter,
they
will
not
be
able
to
meet
the
time-sensitive
refugee
process.
I
The
normal
warfare
services
and
everything,
but
the
support
they
need
to
go
through
the
immigration
process
is
not
normally
not
there.
So
we
want
to
appear
to
the
City
of
Toronto
to
allow
us
I
mean
to
to
work
with
us
to
be
able
to
open
those
shelter
bit
whenever
whenever
a
crisis
comes
up,
we
have
been
in
this
business
for
30
years.
November
come
this
in
November,
so
we
know
what
to
do
and
we
can
be
able
to
support
the
city
if
we
are
given
a
chance.
G
We
then,
what's
explaining
to
you,
we
are
organization
that
we
have
more
than
25
years.
Working
with
refugee
claimants,
and
also
we
are
organized,
is
not
only
the
to
see
reach
others
that
you,
you
heard
that
from
Steve
and
Dan,
but
also
we
are
six
more
refugee
houses
that
we
welcome
refugee
claimants
since
the
last
30
years
and
we
wanna
bring
your
strong
recommendations
is
not
just
to
to
come
and
complain.
G
But
we
wanna
say
that
one
of
the
thing
is
that
we
are
asking
the
City
of
Toronto
consult
and
establish
partnership
with
the
refugee
shelters
and
houses
in
Toronto
to
immediately.
We
can
develop
and
implement
a
refugee
capacity
plan
understanding
that
this
organization,
we
have
the
expertise
in
serving
refugees,
and
we
need
to
take
the
lead
on
addressing
the
NHIS
challenges
and
priorities
in
providing
service
to
this
population.
It's
not
just
to
keep
them
a
roof.
The
timelines
of
immigration
are
very
short
that
we
are
a
concerned
that
they
can
fall
on
the
cracks.
G
What
is
happening
right
now,
because
they
are
only
served
in
the
in
the
hotels
that
the
city
we
are.
We
are
agree
with
all
the
four
recommendations
that
DC
represent
on
the
report:
managing
the
refugee
flows
in,
in
which
one
also
given
the
funding
for
the
Korean
hotels,
because
we
don't
want
the
families
on
the
street,
but
also
we
want
that.
The
City
of
Toronto
expedite
the
process
of
developing
is
refugee
capacity
plan
so
that
the
number
of
hotels
currently
required
for
shelter
can
be
reduced
and
can
be
n
before
the
thousand
in
team.
G
Additionally,
to
that,
the
City
of
Toronto
shall
also
commit
to
fund,
in
this
refugee
capacity
plan,
through
its
development
and
implementation,
to
ensure
that
the
necessary
resources
are
available
to
a
successful
execute.
The
plan,
and
one
of
the
most
important
is
that
the
City
of
Toronto
immediately
moved
to
set
up
a
24/7
assessment
and
referral
center
for
homeless
families,
so
that
it
says
spaces
provided
where
families
can
receive
immediate
support
and
secure,
maintains
each
shelter
space.
G
One
of
our
experience
in
the
refugee
houses
we
are
having,
and
just
last
week
in
my
mice,
in
our
refugee
center.
We
have
three
families
in
an
office
where
we
have
to
accommodate
them.
If
not,
they
will
be.
They
were
experience
of
families
sleeping
in
the
airport
or
is
sleeping
in
Tim
Hortons
model
with
children,
which
is
something
that
we
need
to
stop
doing
that
and
the
last
one.
What
we
are
looking
is
how
we
can
develop
with
the
City
of
Toronto
and
mechanism
to
see
what
is
the
cow
says?
G
What
is
we
are
shortage
of
emergency
shelters
because
know
is
know
just
because
the
number
of
refugee
claimants
coming
to
Toronto
is
more
to
see
all
that
the
reduce
of
beds
in
the
emergency
shelters,
but
also
the
lack
of
affordable
housing
and
that's
what
Inc
increased
the
the
number
of
people
is
singing
in
the
shelter's.
That's
our
to
see
the
Ontario
collision
of
said,
shelters,
a
refugee
Clement
service
providers.
G
J
I'm
here
with
the
Ontario
coalition
against
poverty,
I
do
also
immigrant
rights
work
with
no
one
is
legal.
Oh
cap
felt
that
we
are
really
well
positioned
to
depute
on
this,
because
we
also
work
a
lot
with
the
homeless
population,
and
so
we
want
to
try
and
bring
in
both
perspectives.
I
support,
my
colleagues
I
do
immigration
law
for
a
full
time
and
I've
had
clients
in
sojourn
house.
J
I
have
clients
in
Seton
house,
and
it's
night
and
day
the
supports
that
they
get
at
sojourn
or
fcj
or
Christie
are
in
terms
of
contacting
legal
representation
in
terms
of
medical
supports.
Counseling
supports
are
a
hundred
times
what
they
will
get
at
a
shelter
like
Seton
house
and
my
clients
at
Seton
house
are
being
traumatized
every
day
by
the
conditions
in
there
they're
not
accessing
legal
reptile.
They
got
me
they're,
not
getting
proper
medical
supports
that
the
chances
of
them
when
winning
their
claim,
go
way
down.
J
When
they're
in
place
like
Seton
house,
they
should
not
be
being
placed
there.
The
solution
is-
and
I
can
say
this,
because
I'm
not
with
one
of
these
shelters-
is
that
these
shelters
need
to
get
the
funding.
These
shelters
need
to
be
expanded,
like
the
way
that
Seton
house
would
or
sorry
soldier
and
house
was
expanded
with
the
extra
23
beds
in
the
pilot
project.
I
believe
that
was
those
are
the
projects
that
we
should
be
looking
at
in
the
long
term.
J
So,
while,
like
my
colleagues
I
support
twenty-three
point,
twelve
for
the
short-term
I
believe
that
this
is
the
actual
solution.
I
just
also
want
to
raise
and
I'm
gonna
be
quick.
A
couple
of
other
concerns
specifically
from
Ocala
one.
Is
that
and
I
understand
why
it's
done
and
I
know
that
needs
to
be
done,
but
the
data
gathering
around
countries
of
origin
and
people's
refugee
status
being
gathered
at
central
intake.
Now
we
spoke
with
the
staff
at
central
intake.
J
What
is
this
there's
a
drop-down
menu
when
they
go
into
central
intake
to
get
housing
and
one
of
the
things
they
ask
is:
what's
your
status
and
there's
a
section
drop
down
on
refugee,
then
later
on,
when
they're
doing
claim,
work
or
case
work
with
them,
their
caseworker
collects
their
country
of
origin.
I
understand
why
it's
done
I,
don't
think
we
I
think
it
has
to
be
done.
J
My
concern
is
that
when
we
talked
to
staff,
they
weren't
sure
if
the
intake
workers
were
getting
a
sanctuary,
City
training
now
under
the
access
without
fear,
sanctuary
city,
those
staff
should
be
trained.
So
when
people
give
out
that
information
and
often
they
need
to
they're
fully
informed
about
what
that
you
nation
is
being
used
for
and
how
that
information
is
going
to
be
protected,
yeah
I
think.
J
J
I,
don't
want
to
say
otherwise,
just
I
think
it's
important
that
the
city
I
don't
know
if
people
saw
the
Toronto
Star
article
that
came
out
about
the
report
last
week,
it's
really
important
for
our
organization
and
I
think
for
the
city
in
general
to
combat
the
idea
that
there's
refugees
over
here
and
homeless
people
over
here
my
clients
are
both
and
both
need
and
I.
This
is
why
I
support
this
this
this
proposal
that
loli
put
forward
in
number
five
is.
We
need
to
look
at
all
our
residents.
J
D
D
K
My
question
is:
do
we
should
we
must
we
engage
the
communities
where
the
people
are
coming
from
because
you
got
people
who
are
coming
from
deaf
parts
of
the
world
and
certainly
you
do
not
have
the
capability
of
speaking
all
those
languages
and
if
you
don't
have
the
communities
with
you
helping
you,
while
you're
looking
at
the
refugees
and
how
to
settle
them,
and
even
sometimes
some
of
the
communities
might
say,
listen,
you
know
what
we'll
take
them
off
your
hands.
We've
got
some
room
to
spare.
Do
we
need
to
do
that?
K
H
So
yeah,
the
short
answer
is
yes,
like
community
support
is
vital
for
long-term
settlement
of
these
families.
I
think
all
of
our
organizations.
We
see
the
benefit
of
having
our
shelter
residents
or
our
refugee
claimants,
eventually
connected
with
community
supports,
so
that
when
they
are
able
to
move
on
from
a
shelter
environment,
they
have
that
connection
right.
How
the
latest.
H
K
My
next
question:
okay,
great
okay,
if
I
may
and
I
thank
you
should
we
as
a
city
partner,
up
with
a
federal
and
provincial
government
and
provide
that
information,
or
we
should
give
you
the
resources
to
be
able
to
provide
that
information.
I
mean
you
talk
about
misguidance
to
where
you
apply,
what
you
apply
and
all
that
stuff
should
be.
K
It
should
be
something
that
we,
as
a
city,
do,
or
should
we
partner
up
with
you
and
and
give
you
the
funding
in
order
for
you
to
be
able
to
do
this,
I
mean
you
see
them
on
the
ground.
First
yeah.
We
provide
programs
right,
should
the
funding,
if
we
decide
to
do
any
funding,
come
to
you
in
order
to
be
able
to
provide
that
information
and
that
help
yes,.
H
So
short
answer,
yes,
I.
Think
number.
One
of
our
recommendation
is
that
we
want
to
work
with
the
city
in
terms
of
developing
a
refugee
capacity
plan,
and
we
want
you
to
understand
that
our
organizations,
the
ones
who
are
working
closely
with
these
families
in
these
refugee
claimants
every
day,
are
the
ones
who
have
the
best
grasp
on
kind
of
what
they
need
and
what
the
priorities
have
to
be.
Should.
K
We
also
provide
for
your
assistance
in
order
for
you
to
be
able
to
mobilize
the
communities
a
little
bit
better.
I
mean
you've
got
limited
resources,
but
when
it
comes
to
a
new
wave
of
people
coming
in
and
you
need
to
reach
out
to
that
community,
should
we
provide
you
the
assistance
that
you
require,
be
it
in
funding,
be
it
in
in
knowledge
of
the
communities,
be
it
in
reaching
out
to
them.
In
order
for
you
to
be
able
to
engage
that
can.
J
I
just
add
one
quick
thing
story
that
I
think
is
relevant.
This
is
a
great
city.
We
are
a
sanctuary,
City
we're
the
first
sanctuary
city
in
Canada,
when
the
City
of
Toronto
provides
funding
to
say
Christy
or
soldier,
and
our
fcj
there's
no
strings
attached
around
status.
When
the
federal
government
wasn't.
J
K
G
We
can't
work
together
because
that's
why
we
are
here
as
a
group.
Okay
and
one
of
the
elements
is
that
we
have
the
support
with
the
communities
because
they
come
and
they
speak
the
language
we
help
us,
but
also
the
communities
doesn't
have
all
the
information
about
the
immigration
process
that
we
can
keep.
It
agreed.
K
K
K
Not
talking
about
money
for
for
for
putting
them
at
the
hotels
I'm
talking
about
money
to
provide
assistance
of
them,
money
to
look
after
their
legal
needs
money
to
to
look
after
taking
them
to
school
money,
to
educate
them,
how
they
go
about,
taking
the
transit
money
to
to
to
help
them
find
a
clinic
that
will
look
after
them.
That's
what
I'm
looking
for
I
mean
that's!
The
answer
is
that
I'm
looking
at?
Is
it
better
for
the
city
to
provide
it
or
work
with
you
for
you
to
provide
it?
Yeah.
H
G
K
G
We
have
been,
and
I
will
be,
welcome
and
it's
part
of
one
of
the
emotions
that
you
were
putting
before
on
this
Anchorage
series
to
work
together
with
the
federal
government
to
see
how
to
give
better
services
and
we
as
an
organization's,
because
also
we
are
members
of
the
Ontario
Council
of
agencies,
urban
immigrants
and
the
Canadian
Council
for
Refugees,
and
we
have
been
bringing
to
the
federal
government.
There
has
to
be
money
to
fight
to
find
for
sale.
K
I'm
running
out
of
time
versus
putting
20
million
dollars
for
the
one
year,
I
would
not
I,
don't
want
to
call
it
a
knee-jerk
reaction,
but
it's
an
immediate
need.
Would
it
be
best
for
us
to
look
at
alternative
solutions,
because
this
thing
this
problem
is
not
going
to
go
away.
I
mean
the
problem
is
existed
back
in
the
60s
I
know,
because
I
came
to
this
country
seeking
refuge
and
I
know
other
colleagues
around
the
table
might
have.
K
Would
it
be
best
for
us
to
have
a
program
that
looks
after
the
homeless
on
one
side
and
the
refugees
on
the
other
side,
because
when
you
have
a
homeless
individual
in
the
refugee,
although
they're
still
facing
the
same
situation,
the
rift
the
needs
of
the
refugees
are
different
than
a
homeless
individual
that
might
be
on
the
street
because
she
or
he
might
be
on
the
street
for
different
reasons,
but
be
it.
They
don't
have
a
home,
be
it
that
there's
their
suffering
for
from
different.
K
G
I
I
think
what
we're
looking
for
is
support
if
we
get
money,
irrespective
of
whether
it
comes
from
one
department
or
the
other.
If
you
got
supports
of
refugee
Clements
that'd
be
good,
but
yes,
we
shouldn't
mix
the
refugee
claimants
with
a
mainstream
homeless
people,
because
their
needs
are
different.
Thank.
A
Just
want
to
to
clarify
your
request
in
a
nutshell,
yours
you're
asking
us
to
number
one
adopt
the
recommendation
than
the
report
to
fund
this
as
an
interim
measure.
However,
in
the
end,
as
an
additional
step
is
to
make
sure
that
your
your
organization's
are
engaged
in
a
longer-term
solution.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
I
A
Yes,
oh
and
I
just
want
to
pull
pull
this
thought
out
a
little
bit
further
before
us
is
a
report
that
is
that's
recommending
in
the
the
adjustment
of
the
of
the
budget
by
almost
20
million
dollars,
and
that's
going
to
pay
for
an
additional
number
of
Hotel
nights
until
the
end
of
2018
by
your
by
your
ability
to
deliver
a
service,
including
the
relocation
and
the
summon
process.
Is
this
the
best
use
of
City
dollars.
H
H
A
I
correct
to
assume
that
you
have
been
raising
your
hand
and
and
standing
up
and
perhaps
saying
to
our
saying
to
city
staff
that
look.
There
is
a
different
way
to
to
move
through
these
discussions
and
move
through
this
influx
of
of
refugees
coming
in
bring
us
to
the
table,
and
let
us
be
part
of
the
solution,
a
provider
and
the
creator
of
these
solutions
am
I,
correct
to
assume
that
you've
been
asking
to
to
be
engaged.
H
H
How
do
we
work
our
way
out
of
this
and
I
think
the
two
points
that
we
really
tried
to
drive
home
at
to
be
at
the
beginning
of
our
meetings
was
one
thing
you
have
to
realize
is
that
you
know
these
trendy
terms
like
spike
or
influx
of
refugees.
That's
not
completely
accurate.
What
we're
seeing
to
a
large
extent
is
refugee
claimant
numbers
returning
to
normal
returning
to
the
numbers
that
they
were
at
before
the
last
conservative
federal
government
had
those
numbers
slashed
in
half.
H
So
you
know
we
need
to
kind
of
think
of
this,
as
this
is
the
normal
amount
of
refugee
claims
that
the
city
is
going
to
receive.
On
top
of
that.
Yes,
there
are
other
pressures
that
are
coming
through
with
extraordinary
circumstances
in
Quebec,
that's
also
adding
to
the
numbers,
but
for
the
majority
of
the
refugee
claims
that
we're
seeing
here
in
Toronto
they're
coming
through
the
regular
avenues-
and
this
is
just
kind
of
numbers
getting
back
up
to
the
30
to
40
thousand
claims
that
the
country
sees
or
has
seen
in
years,
past.
I.
A
Believe
I
have
time
for
just
one
more
quick
question
with
respect
to
your
your
recommendations
before
us,
including
the
establishment
of
a
24
hour
assessment
and
referral
center
for
homeless
refugee
families
with
respect
with
creating
and
expediting
a
refugee
capacity
plan.
When
did
you
because
staff
have
already
engaged
you?
When
did
you
raise
those
first
recommendations
like
when
was
the
first
raised
in
discussion?
We.
G
We
have
now
a
kind
of
plan.
We
brought
that
this
24/7
in
the
last
meeting
that
we
had
with
them.
That
was
before
they
did
the
report
and
we
suggest
that
has
to
be
these
24/7,
like
we
said
strict
to
homes
and
also
we
said
that
the
hotels
is
not
the
solution
that
we
need
to
get
together.
Anna
and
I
believe
that,
after
the
presentation
of
the
report,
we
are
coming
up
another
meeting
and
where
we
will
continue
the
discussion.
What
we
are
looking
is
this
could
take
forever.
G
We
wonder
we
can
do
a
more
expedited
and
more
clear
how
we
can
play
a
better
role
and
also
that
we
don't
need
to
be
come
back
to
you
in
December
next
year
to
say
hello.
They
need
more
money
because
we
haven't
finished
with
the
plan.
We
have
already
some
kind
of
infrastructure,
the
basis
that
you
can
start,
because
we
are
not
just
only
three
of
us.
We
are
seven
houses
and
each
house
like
fcj.
We
run
three
houses
and
is
a
model
because
they
live
in
the
community
and
they
are
part
of
the
community.
G
B
Thank
you
very
much,
and
you
know
first
and
foremost,
thank
you
for
all
the
good
work
that
you
do
with
our
refugee
community
I
think
just
a
high-level
question.
We
have
a
separate
system
actually
for
for
women
fleeing
violence,
it's
a
provincial
system,
so
the
thought
comes.
To
my
mind.
We
have
a
separate
refugee
shelter
system,
and
maybe
part
of
the
problem
here
is,
is
that
you
know
our
shelter
system
that
Paul
runs
there.
That's
really
the
place
of
absolute
last
resort
for
everybody,
but
that
it
would
be
better
for
us
to
separate
I.
I
But
actually
it
is
a
realistic
question,
because
the
setup
Falls,
for
example,
for
central
intake,
the
number
of
questions.
The
expectations
are
different
refugees,
one
they
come
in
here.
They
may
not
have
an
ID,
they
might
not
have
papers,
so
the
questions
that
they
go
through,
sometimes
they're
futile,
because
you
want
to
get
the
right
answers.
So
if
you
have
even
someone
trained
at
the
central
intake
to
only
deal
with
refugee
claimants,
who
are
looking
for
a
space
would
be
much
better
than
having
to
go
through
questions
which
people
even
don't
understand
because
they
did.
G
Also
Joe,
just
to
jump
I
think
is
the
right
moment
because
his
this
is
the
moment
that
is
a
city
that
can
take
the
leadership
in
Canada
because
there
it
doesn't
exist
at
this
moment,
a
program
or
a
plan
that
is
only
focused
on
refugee
claimants.
The
only
difference
is
in
Quebec,
but
because
Quebec
has
a
whole
different
immigration
program
and
I
think
it
will
be
the
idea
because
shelters
per
se
is
not
the
place
for
for
refugee
claimants,
like
a
solar
house
and
Christy,
there
are
small
shelters,
okay,.
B
G
H
Yeah
and
and
I
think
everyone
in
the
room
would
agree.
Ike
hotels
are
and
expensive
model
if
your
calculated
kind
of,
if
you
replicated
the
models
that
we
have
and
you
kind
of
threw
the
twenty
eight
point,
eight
million,
which
again
we're
not
recommending
you
do
it
this
week,
but
in
the
future
to
us
more
refugee
families
and
more
refugee
singles
would
get
beds,
and
we
are
confident
that
they
would
also
get
higher
service
quality,
cheaper,
better
service.
B
So
your
service
model,
just
so
I'm,
absolutely
clear
refugee,
comes
to
your
place.
You
let
say
a
romera
house,
you
have
seven
houses
that
you
rent
out
and
you
say:
ok
you're
a
family
of
four.
Oh,
we
have
someone
leaving
there
to
more
permanent
housing.
You
can
stay
there
for
a
week
a
month
whatever,
and
you
stay
there
basically
for
well
depends
would
stay
there.
They
are
at
in
the
claimant
process.
Yes,.
B
G
H
An
hour
just
to
add
on
that
sojourn
housing,
Christie
refugee,
Welcome,
Center.
Our
models
are
different
because
we're
the
two
city
funded
emergency
shelters.
So
we
operate
like
an
emergency
shelter.
Clients
don't
pay
to
live
there,
however,
embedded
in
our
case
management
are,
is
information
services
and
supports
about
the
refugee
claim
process
right,
which
you're
not
necessarily
going
to
always
get
at
other
shelters
that
aren't
set
up
or
that
don't
have
the
expertise
to
serve
this
group.
How.
H
And
I
was
lolis,
gonna
be
mad
at
me,
because
I
was
supposed
to
explain
what
the
coalition
was
before
we
started,
but
I
didn't
so
the
Ontario
Coalition
for
refugee
claimants,
it's
two
emergency
shelters
from
Toronto
sojourn
house
and
Christy,
and
then
I
would
say
about
fifteen
fifteen
refugee
houses
that
work
under
a
transitional
housing
model
and
that
provide
housing
services
and
support.
We
have
houses
in
Windsor,
we
have
houses
in
Niagara,
Falls,
Hamilton,
all
the
way
up
to
Ottawa
Fort
Erie.
H
H
Would
just
say
that
they're
intending
to
make
a
refugee
claim
right,
depending
on
what,
without
getting
into
too
much
detail,
depending
on
what
type
of
claim
they
want
to
make?
Some
will
be
able
to
make
the
claim
and
get
processed
as
refugee
claimants
upon
arrival
at
a
port
of
entry,
others
who
are
making
inland
claims.
It's
a
series
of
appointments
and
form-filling
that
can
take
a
month
to
two
months
to
actually
be
designated
as
a
refugee
claimant
and
have
their
claimants.
H
D
Have
any
questions?
No
I
I
have
a
few.
We
just
kick
it
off
so
specifically
in
Steve
I
know
you
mentioned
in
Europe
and
remarks,
but
you
all
did
so.
I'll
dress
it
to
anybody
on
the
question
of
24-hour
access.
So
you
know,
there's
a
request
or
a
recommendation.
You've
put
on
for
us
to
look
at
a
referral
center
style
service
is
this?
Is
this
in
addition
to
the
possibility
of
a
24-hour
drop-in
specifically
for
families
as
well
I.
H
So
this
is
different,
I
would
say
so
in
terms
of
the
out
of
the
cold
or
cold
weather
drop-ins.
What
we're
looking
at
here
and
what
we've
been
seeing
for
the
year
to
two
years,
is
that
families
are
not
able
to
get
a
referral
to
emergency
shelter
and
when
they
can't
there's
nowhere
for
them
to
go
and
some
some
end
up
out
on
the
streets.
Some
are
in
dangerous
situations.
Some
are
huddled
with
community
members.
H
Many
of
them
end
up
at
one
of
our
centers
sleeping
on
the
floor,
and
that's
because
there
is
no
kind
of
safety
net
a
place
where
everyone
knows
you
can
be
sent
and
it's
a
safe
space
that
they
can
get
the
necessary
support
and
secure
a
referral
to
emergency
shelter.
So
that's
what
that
request
is
about
and.
D
Can
I
ask
for
all
of
our
benefit
is
the
reason
that
the
current
Peter
straight
referral
center
and
the
24-hour
drop
ins
during
the
winter
that
we
have
is
the
reason
that
those
are
not
adequate,
be
because
you're
looking
at
in
many
cases,
families
and
those
tend
to
be
spaces
dealing
with
a
highly
vulnerable
population.
A
lot
of
the
time
yeah.
H
So
I
mean
there
is
an
argument
that
could
be
made
that
the
out
of
the
cold
is
not
necessarily
safe
for
anyone,
but
especially
when
we're
talking
about
families
and
children
and
refugee
claimants.
We
have
been
told
not
it's
not
just
us
saying
that
it's
not
safe,
we've
been
told
by
streets
to
home
and
by
city
staff.
Don't
send
children
there,
like
that's,
not
appropriate.
J
I
support
my
colleagues
idea
of
having
separate
services
I
think
it's
necessary,
but
also
that
last
year,
Oh
cap
T
a
call
through
of
the
shelters
in
the
middle
of
the
winter
unwind
the
cold
alert
days,
and
they
were
all
above
ninety
percent
capacity.
So
the
problem
is
also
larger
globally,
as
Steve
is
saying.
Okay,.
D
K
K
C
That's
really
cherry
I
think
I.
Think
there
really
is
a
hybrid
there.
There
are
the
bricks
and
mortar
and
the
putting
people
putting
shelter
over
people's
heads
that
those
hotels
are
providing.
The
city
does
not
have
facilities
to
move
them
to
a
different
location.
So
we
actually
have
to
provide
shelter
that
to
the
folks,
but
we
for
certain
can
work
more
closely
with
the
deputies
and
those
organizations
to
develop
a
plan
and
see
if
we
can
do
things
more
efficiently
and
effectively.
When.
F
The
financial
ask
is
an
up
two:
if
we
end
up
with
a
different
solution
and
don't
need
the
beds,
then
we
don't
pay
the
hotels
so
just
to
be
clear,
it's
a
demand,
driven
exercise
in
terms
of
the
conversation
with
our
non-governmental
colleagues.
Yes,
we
have
started
that
conversation
and
we
need
to
to
continue
to
move
forward
with
it.
The
city
relies
on
these
agencies
to
assist
us
in
such
areas
as
making
sanctuary
city
real.
F
K
F
K
F
There
are
ongoing
relationships
with
a
number
of
the
organizations
in
the
coalition
that
predated
14
months
ago,
so
those
relationships
have
existed.
What
stop
are
saying
what
we
are
saying
in
this
report
is
that
we
need
to
get
more
specific,
more
directed
and
sit
down
with
these
agencies
and
create
a
capacity
plan
into
the
future.
Typically,
we
respond
on
one-offs
as
there's
a
high
mark
in
terms
of
numbers.
What
the
report
is
the
advice
we're
giving
to
council
is
tell
us
to
come
up
with
an
ongoing
plan
that
manages
the
flows.
Thank
You
councillor.
A
The
the
report
before
us
is
going
to
make
an
adjustment
of
twenty
million
dollars
to
two
key
people
to
keep
a
roof
over
individuals
heads
and
at
any
given
point.
Could
we
have
avoided
this
because
this
is
not
clearly
the
best
use
of
City
dollars
it
doesn't?
It
doesn't
allow
us
the
strength
stretch
a
dime
into
it
into
a
dollar.
This
is
a
very
expensive
way
of
keeping
a
roof
over
individual
heads.
At
what
point
in
time
could
we
have
made
a
different
leading
up
to
this
report?
At
what
point
in
time?
C
Through
the
chair
two
pieces
to
that,
in
terms
of,
could
we
could
have
we
avoided
it?
In
our
opinion,
we
could
not
have
avoided
this
particular
piece,
we're
using
those
hotels
and
motels
we're
using
the
bricks
and
mortar
there
to
house
people
as
we
have
in
the
past.
We
have
had
similar
situations
in
2001
and
2007
and
we've
seen
those
you
know
rise
and
fall
over
that
time.
This
is
actually
a
very
common
approach
to
this
type
of
surge
in
the
system.
C
If
you
look
at
other
large
cities,
very
similar
approaches
taken
so
I,
don't
think
we
could
have
avoided
that
in
terms
of
the
cost.
Absolutely
the
motel
and
hotel
programs
are
more
expensive.
If
you
were
to
compare
them
to
buildings
that
you
have
existing
and
in
operation,
but
we
don't
have
those
buildings,
so
you
would
have
to
actually
put
out
the
capital
and
get
them
up
and
running
and
staff
them.
So
there's
an
offset
there
in
the
short
term.
A
Recognizing
that
we
don't
have
an
abundance
of
real
estate
options
here,
but
we
also
have
people
who
are
sleeping
rough
living
in
in
the
parks
and
ravines
who
do
not
have
refugee
status
when
we
are
taking
a
look
at
those
who
are
being
left
behind,
given
the
fact
that
this
is
addressing
one
population,
how
do
we?
How
do
we
address
the
the
lack
of
shelter,
not
housing,
but
the
lack
of
shelter
for
those
other
individuals,
the
ones
that
have
already
been
here
for
a
while?
So.
C
It's
a
great
question
and
when
I
look
at
is
specifically
in
2017,
we
are
slowly
but
surely
increasing
capacity
in
the
shelter
system.
So
if
we
go
back
to
October
2015,
there
were
4,200
beds
in
the
shelter
system,
2016
in
October,
43,
16,
2017,
50
448,
so
we're
increasing
that
capacity
and
as
we
move
into
2018,
there
are
other
locations
coming
online
to
again
increase
that
capacity.
C
So
when
the
GTA
Toronto
provides
two
times
the
amount
of
service
of
all
of
the
GTA
communities
combined
and
three
times
the
amount
of
service
of
Vancouver,
so
it's
not
perfect.
Do
we
need
to
do
more?
I
think
we
all
believe
we
need
to
do
more.
We
want
to
build
on
that
capacity,
but
we
are
putting
our
best
foot
forward
in
this
situation.
Do.
A
You
believe
that
the
City
of
Toronto
is
getting
its
proportionate
share
of
resources
and
investments
from
other
orders
government,
as
we
take
on
the
lion's
share
of
settlement
for
newcomers
for
Refugees,
as
well
as
trying
to
address
the
the
homeless
population
that
resides
in
Toronto,
but
that
may
not
have
originated
from
our
city.
Are
we
getting
our
share.
F
F
Managed
through
that
process
in
a
timely
manner,
we
have
a
concern
that
right
now
wait
times
are
double
what
the
legislative
timelines
would
suggest.
So
a
recommendation
that
the
federal
government
addressed
that
second
one
is
historically,
the
shelter
system
was
funded
on
a
per
diem
basis,
so
that
when
the
numbers
went
up,
provincial
support
went
up
that
changed
about
four
years
ago
five
years
ago,
and
it's
now
capped.
So
that
means
that
the
City
of
Toronto
has
to
manage
the
full
financial
impact
of
increase
in
refugees
numbers.
B
It's
just
building
building
on
that
of
the
twin
it,
and
this
is
a
pure
financial
question.
So
the
twenty
million
dollars
that
you're
asking
for
that
customers,
various
reserve
accounts
correct
just
have
those
reserve
accounts
like
I,
really
want
to
know
how
much
that
is:
property
taxpayer
money,
how
much
of
that
came
from
the
province
or
the
feds
and
then
got
you
put
into
the
reserve
account
and
knowledge
being
used
through.
C
The
chair,
so
that
money
that's
identified
in
the
report,
is
not
coming
not
necessarily
coming
from
reserves
that
would
be
a
bait
a
base,
acts
asking
the
budget
and
then
through
financial
planning
we
would
figure
out
what
is
the
best
way
to
to
approach
that
so
there
we
can't
split
that
out.
Based
on
the
provincial
ask
federal,
ask
it's
a
it's!
A
base
budget
request
property
tax
request,
so.
B
Can
I
say-
and
you
know
I
see
wonderful
trying
to
start
here,
because
really
the
issue
is
who's
who's
wearing,
like
this
is
weird.
Are
we
paying
the
full
fright
it
freight
here?
Is
it
twenty
million
dollars
it's
on
our
property
taxpayers
and
we're
not
getting
a
penny
from
the
province
and
the
feds?
Is
that
a
legitimate
statement
to
say
the.
F
F
Of
the
issue
with
this
pressure
on
the
shelter
system
is
the
housing
issue
writ
large,
so
everyone
has
a
challenge:
finding
housing
in
the
market
that
in
part
builds
some
of
the
pressure
in
the
shelter
system.
So
we
need
to
look
at
that
part
of
the
equation
as
well.
The
financial
issue
for
the
city
is
the
fact
that
the
province
no
longer
provides
any
cost-sharing
on
when
there's
particular
increases
in
the
shelter
system.
We've
used
up.
D
Thank
you.
I
just
have
one
quick
question
if
that's
all
to
follow
up
on
as
it
relates
to
refugees
and
families
writ
large,
because
we
understand
that
they
are
one
in
the
same
often
that
are
our
occupancy
rates
for
families
have
been
at
a
hundred
percent
or
nearing
their.
Is
that
correct,
that's
correct
and
what's
the
wait
time
for
families
to
access
a
space
if
they're
not
going
to
the
24
hour
drop
ins,
if
it
were
a
hundred
percent,
is
it
one
day?
Is
it
five
days?
What
are
we
looking
at?
It's.
C
D
And
we've
heard
that
the
24-hour
services
that
we
currently
have
be
it
at
Peter,
Street
or
in
winter,
the
24-hour
drop-ins.
These
are
not
sites
that
the
city
encourages
families
to
go
to.
Is
that
correct?
That's
correct!
So
you
know,
there's
been
a
question.
That's
been
raised.
I
know,
we've
talked
about
in
the
past.
Is
that
is
there?
In
your
view,
a
need
to
have
a
24-hour
service
specifically
for
families.
Would
that
be
a
valuable
service
for
the
city
to
have
I?
Think.
C
D
You
think
there
would
be
any
opportunity
so
that
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
there's
a
recognition
of
the
need
and
openness
to
looking
at
it.
Do
you
think
there
is
any
potential
that,
even
if
we
were
looking
at
this
upcoming
winter
season,
that
one
of
our
24-hour
drop
ins
would
there
be
the
possibility
have
one
specifically
for
families
without
compromising
the
services
we're
providing
for
non
families
on
the
24
hour
drop
inside
I?
Think.
C
D
Looking
at
that,
okay
and
just
one
other
piece
here
in
terms
of
the
the
wraparound
services,
so
at
the
moment,
I.
Imagine
that
there's
a
great
deal
of
coordination
between
the
newcomer
office,
other
departments
within
SDF,
ans
sha
in
terms
of
coordinating
our
plan.
Is
there
the
opportunity
for
greater
collaboration?
Would
we
benefit
from
having
increased
collaboration
with
the
community?
Absolutely
okay?
Okay,
that's
all
for
I
move
into
speakers!
Now.
First
up
we
have
councillor
Kerry
Janice.
Thank.
K
You,
chair,
I'm
gonna,
be
quick.
I
think
that
this
is
a
new
era
that
we
are
approaching.
I
think
we
need
to
pull
our
resources
together
and
staff
need
additional
resources
in
order
to
be
able
to
pull
these
resources
together.
We
do
not
have
enough
staff
to
meet
this
challenge.
I
think
the
newcomers
office
needs
to
be
enhanced,
whether
it
be
funds
that
we
get
federally
provincially
or
pocket.
The
three
staff
I
believe
it's
three,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
that
are
there
need
to
make
sure
that
they're
able
to
forecast
what's
coming
around
the
corner.
K
Should
we
have
something
that
happens
in
one
part
of
the
world
and
people
are
coming
in.
We
should
be
able
to
foresee
that
or
respond
to
it
immediately
that
challenge
it's
something
that
we
need
to
face.
We
cannot
go
to
our
residence
all
the
time
and
say:
listen.
We
need
extra
money,
extra
money,
extra
money.
We
need
to
have
a
clan
that
makes
sense
that
it's
there
and
we
allocate
for
it
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
and
say
this
year.
We
will
need
twenty
thirty
million.
K
Yes,
we
need
to
support
the
twenty
thirty.
The
twenty
million
right
now,
because
we
are
there's
people
out
that
will
be
out
on
the
street
in
the
cold.
However,
I,
don't
think
this
is
good
planning.
I
think
we
need
to
tell
our
staff
and
we
need
to
give
them
the
resources
in
order
for
them
to
be
able
to
do
the
work
that
it's
needed
moving
forward,
and
we
need
to
rise
to
the
challenge.
The
federal
government
people
that
are
coming
to
Canada
are
coming
to
Canada
they're
not
coming
to
Toronto.
K
Toronto
is
not
a
separate
country,
so
the
federal
government
must
have
the
responsibility
whether
these
people
are
before
they
claim
refugee
status
or
after
the
federal
government.
Provincial
government
have
to
step
in
the
days
that
we
as
a
sanctuary
city,
say
we're
going
to
take
it
all
alone.
Those
days
are
gone.
K
People
are
not
coming
to
Toronto,
because
the
this
is
the
country
of
Toronto
they're
coming
to
Toronto,
because
this
is
the
country
of
Canada
and
if
we
do
not
send
a
strong
message
to
the
federal
and
the
provincial
government
we'll
keep
being
in
this
loop
people
that
are
coming
claiming
refugee
status,
they
need
a
fixed
address.
They
need
an
address
where
they
can
call
home
for
one
two
months
well,
they're
out
the
application
is
going
through
in
order
for
them
to
apply
to
to
get
their
status.
K
K
We're
right
now
struggling
we're
drowning
and
staff
is
here
saying,
give
us
a
lifejacket
I'll
support
the
lifejacket
and
certainly
I
would
say
to
you
not
only
the
lifejacket,
but,
as
I
said
before,
when
we
were
dealing
with
the
Syrians,
we
need
to
have
a
permanent
staff
person
that
is
there
for
castings
they're
forcing
and
it's
they're,
letting
us
know
what
it's
going
to
happen.
Those
resources
were
not
given
by
as
counselors.
K
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
chair
I'd
like
to
move
several
motions.
The
first
one
is
an
amendment
to
recommendation
number
one
and
to
essentially
report
back
the
second
quarter,
2018
with
the
implementation
plan
that
includes
consultation
and
partnership
with
the
refugees,
shelters
and
houses
in
Toronto
and
then
introduce
three
new
additional
recommendations
which
is
now
on
the
screen.
A
A
Caps
implemented
by
the
province
on
shelter
occupancy
has
created
a
problem
for
us
that
we've
been
trying
to
address
in
in
in
sort
of
ad-hoc
ways
that
the
city,
the
backlog
of
refugee
claimants.
By
and
it's
the
responsibility,
the
federal
government
has
left
families
in
limbo
as
they
try
to
move
on
with
their
lives.
Once
they've
come
across
the
border
and
they're
trying
to
settle
all
that
has
created
a
condition
for
us
in
Toronto.
A
That
is
now
greatly
exacerbated,
largely
because
the
capacity
of
the
shelters
are
already
at
the
at
the
peak
and
we're
not
able
to
find
the
room
in
the
system
to
allow
people
to
advance
and
move
forward
with
their
lives
because
they
are
now
backlogged.
So
this
is
a
very
uncomfortable
report.
I
find
this
report
extremely
uncomfortable
because
we
want
to
do
right
by
by
the
residents
of
Toronto.
A
The
number
of
refugees
is
going
to
increase,
so
this
is
not
necessarily
a
comfortable
report
for
a
whole
host
of
those
reasons
is
because
we're
now
again
in
this
sort
of
reactionary
position
that
we've
been
forced
into
do,
we
have
any
other
option
other
than
agreeing
to
a
twenty
million
dollar
expenditure
by
way
of
the
budget
adjustment.
I,
don't
really
see
a
way
out
of
it.
At
this
point
in
time,
is
this
good
and
responsible
government?
A
It
could
be
argued
either
way,
depending
where
you
are
in
the
political
spectrum
and
I
think
that
this
actually
allows
us.
It
opens
up
to
us
to
criticism
in,
even
though
we're
doing
the
very
best
that
we
can
and
if
people
are
not
involved
with
the
nuance
of
the
policy
and
taking
a
look
at
how
we
got
here.
This
becomes
a
very
easy
target:
we're
housing,
refugees
and
hotels.
A
B
B
It
really
is
a
testament
to
the
city
or,
frankly,
it
is
a
sign
how
the
city,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
has
to
take
what
happens
internationally
nationally
provincially
and
we
have
to
deal
with
the
mess
and
that's
what
this
is
we're
dealing
with,
the
with
the
failure
of
international
diplomacy
and
the
federal
government
not
coming
up
with
money
to
help
sell
refugees
on
the
direct
service
side
of
things,
the
provincial
government
capping
its
financial
contribution,
who
wears
that
we
wear
it.
That
seems
to
be
the
way
of
the
world.
B
The
other
thing
that
so
having
said
that
the
I
think
we
need
to
pay
good
heed
to
what
folks
are
saying
here:
there's
15
agencies,
or
so
that
have
been
working
on
this
issue,
these
shoes
for
a
very
long
time,
I
am
wandering
in
it's.
There's
no
motion
but
I
hope
that
staff
hear
this.
Maybe
it
is
time
the
same
way
that
we
have
a
violence
against
women
set
of
shelters,
whether
we
need
something
that
is
perhaps
not
a
wall
between
the
regular
shelter
system
in
the
refugee
center.
B
Yes,
a
refugee
centered
shelter
system
very
porous,
but
to
separate
out
those
two
functions
because
they
have
very
different
audiences,
very
different
vulnerabilities
and
very
different
service
requirements.
I
think
that's
something
that
I
think
is
worthy
of
some
thought
and
analysis,
but
I'm
gonna
support
this
I'll
save
and
the
other
comment
I
want
to
make
to
council
I.
D
Clearly,
there
are
a
number
of
factors
that
play
in
this
discussion
and,
in
effect,
there's
almost
a
perfect
storm
in
that,
with
rising
global
instability,
we
are
seeing
rising
settlement
and
refugees
arriving,
although,
as
was
noted
back
to
pre
Harper
numbers,
but
at
the
same
time
we're
also
seeing
rising
inequality,
and
so
we
are
seeing
both
of
those
factors
in
at
play,
creating
a
perfect
storm
and
I'm
I'm
deeply
concerned
with
anything
that
gives
credence
to
xenophobia
out
there.
That
says
now
we're
losing.
D
Now
we
have
refugees
taking
shelter
beds,
I'm
deeply
concerned
about
that
we
have
a
shelter
crisis.
That's
what
we
have
is
a
shelter
crisis
and
the
perfect
storm
has
helped
to
amplify
that.
I
want
to
thank
our
staff
for
the
work
that's
being
done
on
this
at
the
city,
because,
as
councilor
my
having
said,
we
have
no
choice.
We
have
to
do
this
because
we
have
to
ensure
that
there's
bricks
and
mortar
and
rubes
at
play,
and
and
while
we
certainly
need
a
more
bolstered
and
stronger
housing
and
shelter
strategy.
D
A
and
counselor
long
times.
Motion
will
help
us
to
continue
to
move
that
along
I'll
pause.
Any
further
comments,
because
I
know
counselor.
My
havoc
is
already
30
minutes
late
and
with
that
I
think
we'll
we'll
proceed
to
a
vote.
There's
been
a
can
we
take
the
item
as
amended?
Yes,
so
there's
item
as
amended.
So
as
a
package
we'll
do
it
all
as
a
package
and
a
request
for
a
recorded
vote.
D
If
that's
all
right
hands
up
counselor
forward,
counselor
Crecy,
counselor,
wong-tam,
counselor
Mavic,
if
counselor
Carrie
Janet's
could
vote,
he
would
vote
for
it.
I'm
sure
that
it
is
unanimous.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
believe
that
it's
the
end
of
business
to
a
German.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
our
clerks.