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Community Development and Recreation Committee, meeting 25, January 17, 2018 - Part 2 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/decisionBodyProfile.do?function=doPrepare&meetingId=12983
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkvVFP0Gyro#t=12m35s
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C
My
name
is
Yogi
Acharya
I'm,
an
organizer
with
the
Ontario
coalition
against
poverty.
I
have
to
be
honest.
I
was
surprised
to
see
the
open
letter
that
was
released
yesterday,
which
a
few
of
you
here
are
a
signatory
to,
while
the
position
the
letter
takes
and
the
actions
that
it
calls
for
isn't
a
dramatic
departure
from
the
position
this
committee
took
back
in
November.
The
fact
that
councillors
who
were
then
opposed
to
these
measures
have
signed
on
to
it
is
a
good
development.
C
It
gives
homeless
people
and
their
allies
reason
to
be
cautiously
optimistic,
but
historical
record
also
warns
against
complacency.
Current
trends
in
shelter
usage
call
for
the
addition
of
at
least
1500
permanent
shelter
beds
to
bring
occupancy
levels
down
to
90
percent
and
bring
the
system
closer
to
guaranteeing
a
spot
to
everyone
in
need.
Furthermore,
come
April
unless
every
single
resident
of
the
backup
facilities,
the
warming
centers,
that
drop
in
see
out
of
the
cold
can
be
guaranteed
a
spot.
C
The
respite
centers,
including
the
Armory's,
can't
shut
down
and
conditions
within
them
need
to
improve
at
the
press
conference
this
morning,
some
of
you
mentioned
motions
that
you
might
move
that
would
address
both
of
these
concerns,
so
we
will
be
following
the
outcome
of
this
meeting
and
developments
over
the
next
few
weeks
closely
homeless.
People
in
this
city,
as
you
know,
are
in
crisis,
and
your
committee
has
once
again
the
opportunity
to
push
for
policies
that
could
stem
the
horrifying
trend
of
eight
homeless
people
dying
every
month.
C
That
said,
certain
councilors,
including
until
very
recently,
the
mayor
himself
and
some
homeless
advocates,
proposed
the
expansion
of
the
shelter
system,
because
they
say
money
spent
on
shelters
should
instead
be
spent
on
spent
on
housing.
I
think
the
position
is
worth
addressing
because,
while
they're
correct
in
asserting
that
housing
is
the
ultimate
solution
and
must
be
funded,
the
in
their
insistent
that
money
spent
on
providing
emergency
shelter
is
a
hindrance
in
the
pursuit
of
that
goal
is
flawed
and,
frankly,
dangerous.
C
This
is
not
because
this
is
not
only
because
this
position
is
oblivious
to
the
deadly
conditions
facing
homeless
people
on
the
ground
and
the
legacy
of
decisions
that
bring
us
to
hit
to
this,
but
also
because
they
wittingly
or
unwittingly,
lend
their
support
to
members
of
council
who
use
precisely
that
reasoning
to
refuse
to
address
the
worsening
homeless
crisis.
It
must
be
noted
that,
while
decision-makers
at
all
three
levels
of
government
talk
about
the
need
for
affordable
or
supportive
housing,
their
policies
have
actively
plunged
us
ever
deeper
into
the
housing
crisis.
C
The
ownership
market
is
inflated
to
a
point
where
it
doesn't
even
merit
consideration
as
an
option
for
middle-income
people,
let
alone
those
trying
to
survive
on
low
incomes.
So,
let's
talk
about
rental
housing,
the
Canada
Mortgage
and
Housing
Corporation
pegs,
the
average
market
rent
in
Toronto
for
a
one-bedroom
apartment
to
be
just
over
$1,200
for
a
person
earning
the
new
$14
minimum
wage,
a
21
percent
increase
over
last
year
and
working
forty
hours
a
week,
renting
on
one-bedroom
apartment,
requires
them
to
spend
over
60%
of
their
income
on
housing.
C
The
fact
that
social
housing
is
on
shambles
is
well
known,
as
is
the
heartbreaking
10-year
long
wait
list
for
the
nearly
200,000
people
languishing
on
its
waitlist.
Yet
hundreds
of
units
stay
on
course
to
be
boarded
up
by
the
end
of
this
year
for
the
lack
of
repair
funding
as
more
people
lose
grip
on
housing
funds
such
as
the
housing
stabilization
fund,
a
fund
this
committee
is
actually
responsible
for
it
have
become
critical.
C
The
council's
and
negligence
has
resulted
in
nearly
14
million
dollars
of
hsf
money
being
withheld
from
reaching
the
poorest
people
in
housing
need
over
the
past
four
years.
Councillors
and
decision-makers
at
the
other
at
all
levels
of
government
can't
claim
that
housing
is
the
solution
to
homelessness
when
your
policies
are
actively
gutting.
C
It
members
of
the
Ontario
coalition,
against
probably
the
organization
that
I'm
a
part
of
have
occupied
buildings,
have
faced
criminal
charges
and
arrests
to
force
you
decision-makers
at
Council,
but
also
at
other
levels
of
government,
to
take
action
on
housing
actions
that
have
turned
vacant
buildings
into
social
housing
that
continues
to
provide
people
a
home.
To
this
day.
C
Last
November,
we
mobilize
people
in
at
least
a
dozen
cities
across
Canada
to
demand
that
the
federal
government
spend
the
eleven
billion
dollars
they
committed
to
housing
over
the
next
two
years,
instead
of
eleven
a
measure
that
would
actually
help
the
city
meet
its
housing
needs.
So
if
you're
serious
about
housing,
then
work
with
us
and
start
by
stopping
the
closure
of
the
hundreds
of
tcht
units
this
year,
protect
rooming
houses,
curtail
the
reckless
speculation
in
the
housing
market
and
stop
catering
to
big
developers.
C
D
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today
on
behalf
of
Covenant
House
Toronto,
as
Canada's
largest
agency
serving
at-risk
homeless
and
traffic
youth,
Covenant
House
Toronto
changes
lives
by
providing
the
widest
range
of
services
and
support
to
as
many
as
250
youth.
Today,
since
opening
our
doors,
an
8
by
1982,
Covenant
House
has
served
over
95,000
young
people
most
homeless.
Youth
are
not
on
the
street
by
choice.
D
They
come
from
every
part
of
the
country
and
are
of
any
background
and
most
have
fled
or
been
forced
out
of
their
homes
where
there
is
abuse
and
childhood
trauma.
Youth
are
staying
in
our
96
bed,
crisis,
shelter
50%
longer
than
they
did
7
years
ago.
The
demand
for
youth
shelter
beds
is
high
on
any
given
night
in
Canada,
up
to
7
thousand
young
people
may
be
homeless
each
night
over
430
youth
are
occupying
youth
designated
shelter
beds.
D
Unfortunately,
due
to
this
high
demand,
some
have
no
choice
but
to
use
adult
system
or
to
stay
on
the
streets,
as
stated
by
the
Toronto
Alliance
to
end
homeless,
creating
a
new
supportive
housing
options
in
our
city,
we'll
take
a
similar
amount
of
time
than
it
would
create
new
shelters.
We
must
respond
to
the
real,
urgent
and
emergency
needs
of
young
people
experiencing
homelessness,
while
also
providing
long-term,
stable
and
diverse
housing
options
for
use.
By
providing
youth
with
the
support
they
need
to
transition
out
of
homelessness
into
stable,
independent
lives.
D
We
can
work
to
prevent
long-term,
chronic
homelessness
that
continues
into
adulthood.
We
can't
end
homelessness
through
an
expansion
of
shelter
and
emergency
services.
We
need
to
provide
youth,
specific
housing
options
and
approaches
and
shift
our
focus
for
managing
the
crisis,
to
preventing
it.
A
housing
first
approach
for
youth
requires
different
models
of
accommodations
and
services,
including
family
reconnection,
support,
varying
levels
of
supported,
housing,
transitional
housing
and
independent
living
options.
We
strongly
urge
you
to
commit
to
more
long-term,
affordable
housing
options
for
young
people,
including
supportive
and
transitional
housing.
D
E
E
D
That
currently,
the
two
organizations
that
offer
transitional
housing
that
I'm
familiar
with
both
have
long
wait
lists
rating
waiting
at
around
75
young
people
to
get
into
YMCA,
Sprott
house
and
I'm.
Assuming
that
the
rites
of
passage
at
Covenant
House
also
has
a
similarly
long
wait
list
for
transitional
housing
and
in.
E
The
just
so
that
when
we
get
into
the
housing
first
approach-
and
if
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
today
about
ensuring
that
we
have
adequate
shelter,
spaces
and
dignified
quality
shelter,
spaces
couple
with
an
approach
to
a
housing
first
model,
the
upstream
housing
approach,
we've
heard,
do
you
have
a
sense
on
the
funding
framework,
at
least
a
covenant
house,
and
how
that
is
split
for
transitional
housing
options
for
youth,
be
it
at
the
provincial
and
municipal
level.
My.
D
E
I
mean
I,
guess
a
question
I
would
have
is
so
the
in
the
emotion
that's
been
advanced
here
today.
There
are
a
number
of
immediate
measures
that
we're
calling
for
around
the
current
situation,
we're
in
getting
to
the
90
percent
occupancy
rate.
We've
also
requested
that,
as
part
of
the
meeting
in
four
weeks
time
in
February,
we
do
a
deep
dive
both
into
our
shelter
system,
as
well
as
the
transitional
housing
side
would.
F
Earlier
I
had
asked
one
of
the
deputies
because
you're
speaking
about
housing
and
transitional
housing
and
inclusionary
zoning,
and
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
that
legislation
and
if
you
think
it
meets
the
requirement
so
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance.
But
are
you
aware
that
on
are
you
interested
in
that
making
sure
that
developments
aren't
just
all
million-dollar
condos
for
sale
in
the
City
of
Toronto
I'm,
not
looking
a
lot
of
nodding
from
the
yeah
I'll
ask
you
to
pass
when
you
get
I.
D
F
So
are
you
part
of
the
Toronto
Alliance
Covenant
House
as
part
of
yeah?
Yes,
so
and
I?
Don't
think
she's
here
now,
but
that
makes
sense
to
me
might
make
sense
to
you
that
the
Alliance
really
look
at
the
ability
to
create
housing,
our
transitional
permanent
housing,
which
would
free
up
people
moving
from
shelters
into
housing.
F
Our
waiting
list
be
part
of
that
larger
housing
push
around
inclusionary
zoning,
so
just
ask
if
you
would
be
willing
to
make
yourself
informed
about
I,
wouldn't
yeah,
and
but
you
let
people
know
that
on
January
25th
at
2
o'clock
in
this
very
room,
there
will
be
a
special
meeting
of
Planning
and
growth
about
inclusionary
zoning
and
how
developers
should
also
be
paying
for
housing.
Ok,
thank
you.
F
G
D
G
D
So
I
think
part
of
the
process.
Is
we
never
turn
people
away
onto
the
streets?
So
we
will
look
for
other
youth
shelters
that
might
be
available
for
young
people,
so
that
may
mean
calling
around
to
each
of
the
youth
centres
checking
in
with
shark
Peter
Street,
seeing
if
there's
any
spaces.
If
we
cannot
find
a
space
for
someone,
they
will
stay
in
our
space
until
we
can
find
a
place
for
them,
especially
during
this
cold
weather
and.
D
G
D
G
D
Depends
it
really
depends
on
one
hour
to
I
mean
it
could
take
15
to
20
minutes
to
do
the
call
around
to
see
if
there's
other
spaces
and
if
there's
another
space
for
someone,
then
we
will
make
sure
that
they
have
adequate
transportation
to
get
to
that
space,
or
we
will
keep
calling
until
we
can
find
something.
Do.
G
G
D
That
we
have
two
beds
that
are
designated
for
young
women
who
are
experiencing
sex
trafficking
are
trying
to
lead
sex
trafficking.
My
understanding
as
well
is
that
they
are
also
quite
full
all
the
time
and
used
quite
often,
and
my
belief
is
that
and
again
this
is
week
3.
So
my
belief
is
that
a
lot
of
that
money
comes
through
the
province.
Mm-Hmm.
H
H
They
don't
have
a
master
database
of
all
the
agencies
that
you
can
kind
of
see
in
real
time.
Okay,
there's
a
space
here,
there's
not
a
space
here.
No
you
have
to.
You,
have
to
have
a
kind
of
rolodex
so
to
speak,
of
the
52
agencies.
Well,
not
all
of
them
serve
youth
but
of
the
end.
The
10
shalt
10
city
shelters
and
you
have
to
go
your
your
frontline
workers.
H
D
A
B
I
Hello,
CDRC
I
think
if
it's
opportunity
to
speak,
my
name
is
Greg
cook
I'm
an
outreach
worker
at
sanctuary
and
have
been
an
outreach
worker
and
dropping
worker
for
over
ten
years.
A
big
part
of
my
job
is
that
reach
worker
is
to
come
alongside
people
who
are
in
crisis.
I
endeavor
to
listen
well,
offer
a
respectful
and
safe
space
to
problem-solve
and
also
to
offer
options.
I
For
me,
it
feels
like,
as
a
result
of
our
current
housing
and
shelter
crisis
in
Toronto
95%
of
the
time,
it's
choosing
the
least
bad
option
amongst
numerous
catastrophic
options.
One
example
of
a
least
bad
option:
this
winter
has
been
the
offer
of
a
sleeping
bag
or
a
toque
as
a
result
of
the
over
capacity
of
the
shelter
and
winter
respite
scent
scent
system.
I
I
Second,
about
the
system
crisis
that
is
connected
to
lack
of
housing,
people
can
afford
in
this
city
and
to
the
shelter
system
crisis
to
the
subsequent
health
care
and
hospital
crisis
as
well.
First,
a
middle-age
indigenous
couple
I
know
well
have
been
housed
in
a
small
studio
apartment
for
about
a
year.
They
have
a
great
sense
of
humor
love
russian
literature
and
have
a
deep
ethic
of
being
generous
and
loving
to
their
neighbours
and
friends
in
the
cold
months
before
the
winter.
A
respite
Center
is
open.
I
Unfortunately,
for
this
generous
couple,
one
of
their
guests
left
the
stove
on
there
was
a
small
fire
and
the
fire
department
had
to
be
called
as
the
result.
This
crisis
in
the
midst
of
a
much
bigger
system
crisis
this.
This
couple
lost
their
homes
home
two
days
before
Christmas
and
they
were
left
homeless,
the
two
of
them
and
the
others
staying
at
their
place
were
forced
to
try
and
find
spaces
in
the
respite
centers
as
a
result
of
the
poor
conditions,
the
respite,
centers
and
being
homeless
in
the
wind
winter.
I
Both
of
these
people
ended
up
in
the
emergency
room
with
pneumonia.
Within
a
few
days,
they
were
discharged
to
the
respite
and
shelter
system.
As
an
organization,
we
worked
really
hard
to
advocate
against
this
to
charge
because
they
were
homeless.
This
didn't
work.
Currently,
this
couple
is
out
in
the
cold
and
homeless.
I
Currently,
our
organization
is
considering
paying
for
last
month's
rent,
so
this
couple
can
get
housing
as
soon
as
possible.
The
current
government
subsidies
have
failed,
second,
that
the
housing
crisis,
the
housing
and
shelter
system
crisis.
If
we
added
the
number
of
respite
spaces
to
the
shelter
bed
capacity,
we
can
confidently
say
the
shelter
occupancy
rate
has
been
between
104
percent
and
110
percent.
Over
the
last
month,
Steve
Muir
has
done
some
important
math
on
this,
as
Toronto
considers
adding
a
thousand
new
emergency
shelter
beds.
I
Here
are
some
scary
math
last
night,
six
thousand
three
hundred
forty
five
individuals
required
emergency
shelter
in
Toronto.
The
not
total
number
of
emergency
shelter
beds
available
in
Toronto
last
night
was
five
hundred
five
thousand.
Eight
hundred
and
ninety-six
now
take
away
the
1519
temporary
contracted
motel
beds
and
the
total
number
of
permanent
shelter
beds
available
in
the
city
last
night
was
four
thousand
three
hundred
and
seventy
seven
to
reach
ninety
percent
occupancy
and
ensure
the
safety
of
our
most
vulnerable
residents.
Toronto
needs
seven
thousand
50
permanent
shelter
beds.
I
In
summary,
seven
thousand
fifty
shelter
beds-
that's
what's
required,
minus
four
thousand
three
hundred
and
seventy
seven
shelter
beds.
That's
what
we
have
now
equals
two
thousand
six
hundred
and
seventy
three
shelter
beds.
That's
what
we
still
need
this
crisis
in
our
housing
and
shelter
system
is
costing
lives
this
year
over.
Eighty
people
died
without
Howe
in
our
city,
according
to
city
of
Toronto
data,
as
an
outreach
worker,
I
am
endeavoring
to
do
some
outreach
to
you
counselors
here
in
this
room,
your
decisions
on
this
matter.
I
You
have
important
life-and-death
choices
that
you
need
to
make.
You
can
choose
to
continue
to
go
forward
with
the
trajectory.
Toronto
is
on
I'll
call
it
the
Los
Angeles
model.
Los
Angeles
is
a
mutt,
isn't
much
bigger
than
Toronto.
Yet
on
any
given
night,
its
homeless
population
is
fifty-seven.
Thousand
eight
hundred
only
twenty-six
percent
are
in
shelters.
The
elderly
population
of
homeless
is
growing,
nearly
1/4
of
55
and
older,
the
average
homeless
woman
in
the
city's
experience
in
the
city's
experience
as
much
major
violence
in
a
single
year
of
your.
I
Last
paragraph
or
the
city
can
strike
out
on
a
different
trajectory.
I'll
call
this
the
Toronto
1980s
model
I
say
this
because
I
want
to
emphasize
that
you
we,
you
can
do
much
better.
We
need
tens
of
thousands
of
affordable
housing
units
as
a
city.
You
need
to
be
realistic
in
our
current
political
climate
right
now.
We
need
warm
beds
in
our
city.
We
need
the
Fort
York
armories
opened.
We
need
current
respite
centers
to
stay
open
until
better
options
are
available
in
the
short
term.
I
G
You
very
much
for
your
deputation
I
want
to
ask
them
as
an
outreach
worker
when
you
have
a
conversation
with
someone
who's
looking
for
accommodations
weather,
shelter,
affordable
housing.
How
do
you,
how
do
you
take
that
information
and
and
and
feed
it
into
the
the
shelter
and
management
information
system,
so.
I
I
I
G
So
what
does
the
intake
system
look
like
for
you
because
I?
Obviously
it's
your
you
have
interactions
with
people
who
are
either
Street
involved
directly
right
on
the
street
or
they're
coming
into
the
sanctuary,
which
is
a
drop-in.
What
does
that
in?
Take
a
look
like
like?
How
do
you
track
the
movement
of
that
individual
and
whether
or
not
they
get
housed
in
the
long
run,
so.
G
I
G
G
G
I
Again,
we've
been
informed
by
their
housing
workers
that
the
regular
subsidy
system,
if
we
let
that,
try
to
solve
the
problem
as
far
as
getting
first
and
last
month's
rent
and
because
they
have
a
place
they've
seen
that
they
will
not
be
able
to
take
that
place
so
and
so,
as
an
organization
we're
like
this
is
like.
We
need
an
eight
nine
hundred
bucks
here.
Frankly,
I
don't
to
go
into
minutes,
but
we
can
make
sure
these
couples
housed
right.
I
I
G
I
G
I
Don't
know
the
details,
the
house,
their
housing,
but
I,
assume
that
that
month
in
month
out,
they
would
have
it
have
the
the
income
to
cover
that
it's
it.
For
many
people,
that's
why
you
have
to
start
up
allowance
is
because
most
places
need
first
and
last
month's
rent
right,
and
so
that
makes
it
really
complicated
when
you
have
a
fixed
income
in
hardly
anything.
Okay,.
F
F
I
F
B
I
Year
and
then
just
so,
there
was
a
newspaper
article
that
came
out
in
September
saying
that
seventy
had,
according
to
the
city
stats,
because
I'm
involved
with
the
Toronto
homeless,
Morial
I'm,
aware
that
the
number
is
over
eighty
I,
don't
know
exact
amount.
That
will
I
think
come
out
shortly
that
their
report,
the
official
City
report
and.
B
J
You,
and
so
my
name
is
AJ
weathers
I'm,
an
organizer
with
the
Ontario
coalition
against
poverty,
I'm
also
a
PhD
candidate
at
York,
University
School
of
Social
Work,
and
my
research
is
supported
by
the
social
science
and
Humanities
Research
Council
of
Canada,
and
my
research
is
related
to
these
issues
and
so
I
think,
as
as
you
all
know,
that
this
is
a
crisis
and
has
has
been
talked
about
a
little
bit.
This
crisis
is,
is
going
to
get
worse
in
the
coming
years.
J
Rents
are
going
up,
social
assistance
is
going
down,
is
being
lost
in
real
dollars
due
to
inflation
and
housing
is
obviously
very,
very
important
and
very
important
part
of
the
solution,
but
is
not
one
or
the
other
with
shelters.
We
need
shelter
beds
and
we
need
them
now.
A
number
of
councillors
have
expressed
some
confusion
about
how
we
have
calculated
the
number
of
beds
that
we
need.
So
in
my
written
deputation,
which
you
have-
and
it's
also
here
on
the
screen-
is
a
calculation
for
last
night
for
what
the
shelter
system
looked
like.
J
J
These
numbers,
don't
this
is
a
formula
that
was
developed
by
people
at
Street
Health
and
has
been
the
formula
that's
been
used
since
last
April
that
this
is
how
the
thousand
bed
demand
came
about
and,
as
you
can
see,
has
risen
dramatically,
as
as
things
continue
to
get
worse
in
this
city,
and
so,
if
we
take
the
number
of
people
in
the
shelter's
to
bring
it
down
to
90%
the
number
of
people
in
the
winter
respite
system,
the
number
of
people
sleeping
rough
based
on
the
2013
needs
assessment.
We
come
up
with
1,500
beds.
J
This
is
I
would
argue
a
great,
underestimate
and
I'm
happy
to
go
into.
Why
even
questions
if
you
have
them?
So
we
have
this
situation
here,
where
we
need
a
lot
of
beds,
come
April
15th.
If
you
didn't
bring
forward
the
motion
to
keep
the
winter
rest
but
open,
we
would
have
a
lot
of
people
with
nowhere
to
go.
I
am
very
concerned,
as
are
many
people,
that
the
out
of
the
colds
are
not
going
to
remain
open
in
spite
of
your
best
efforts
and
your
requests
and
so
right
right
off
the
start.
J
J
We
need
to
keep
the
moss
Park
armory
open
and
we
need
to
keep
these
spaces
open
as
well
as
continue
to
find
other
emergency
solutions,
while
permanent
beds
are
being
opened.
We
want
to
see,
ideally,
these
713
beds
being
open
right
away,
while
through
the
year
we
see
ideally
1500
and
14
beds
being
opened
as
of
last
night,
but
as
you
can
imagine,
these
numbers
fluctuate
dramatically
not
dramatically.
J
They
fluctuate
somewhat
depending
on
the
night,
but
one
thing
that's
consistent
is
that
they've
continued
to
rise
since
December
at
least
another
really
intense
concern
that
a
number
of
people
have
raised
is
the
conditions
of
the
winter
respite
sites.
All
saints'
and
Margaret's
have
been
raised
very
cold
in
those
people
are
really
crowded,
and
st.
Felix
as
well
is
very
concerning
I
hope
that
people
remember
that
last
year,
pier
Georgie
a
28
year
old
indigenous
man
died
after
being
allowed
into
st.
J
Felix
and
warming
center
around
Kensington
Market,
and
he
was
allowed
in
for
20
minutes
half
an
hour
given
and
then
but
told
that
he
had
to
leave
because
they
were
at
capacity
and
he
died
shortly
thereafter
and
Saint
Felix
continues
to
not
let
people
in
when
they're
at
capacity
beyond
a
short
period
of
time,
even
though,
when
I
visited
there
at
capacity
means
that
they
have
a
number
of
chairs
open,
and
so
my
understanding
is
that
they
may
be
telling
people
now
where
they
can
go.
They.
B
J
I'll
finish
up
really
quickly,
and
so
those
conditions
need
to
change.
A
thousand
beds
is
a
really
great
start.
Those
beds
need
to
have
low
barrier
shelters.
We
need
physical
accessibility
for
people,
there's
no
beds
for
many
wheelchair
users
in
particular.
We
need
beds
for
women
and
non-binary
people,
pets,
people
with
pets
and
for
couples,
we're
very
optimistic,
but
very
cautiously
optimistic
about
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
J
J
E
Want
to
be
very
careful
here,
this
was
in
my
ward,
I
knew
here
yeah
and
it
was
devastating
and
our
fabulous
staff
at
st.
I
said
they
did
not
have
space
for
him
to
sleep,
but
he
could
stay
there
sitting
in
the
area
and
that
they
would
work
to
find
space
for
him,
and
so
that
is
inadequate.
It's
not
acceptable.
It
should
not.
We
should
have
space,
but
he
was
not
told
he
had
to
leave
okay.
J
I
appreciate
that
what
they
did
tell
people
this
winter
when
it
was
incredibly
cold-
was
that
they
could
go
in
for
20
to
30
minutes.
They
wouldn't
turn
people
away,
but
they
could
go
in
for
20-30
minutes.
They
would
have
to
leave,
go
outside
and
then
wait
until
someone
left
permanently
and
they
were
not
being
told
that
there
were
other
spaces
anywhere
else
available.
I.
E
J
G
You
with
respect
to
the
condition
of
the
winter
rest
Beth's
previous
speaker,
Cathy
Crowe,
was
asking
that
we
developed
some
standards
and
those
standards
I
think
what
my
experiences
standards
are
good,
but
they're
only
good
if
they're
actually
complied
with.
For
example,
we
have
a
90
percent
occupancy
shelter
standard.
The
council
has
now
learned
that
we've
never
quite
met
that
you
support
the
development,
I
guess
of
new
respite
out
of
the
coat
standards.
What
what?
What's
the
consequence
when
the
city
doesn't
follow
its
own
standards?
What
should
be
the
consequence
and.
J
G
J
So
there
are
a
number
of
reasons
why
that's
the
case,
so
it
would
go
up
if
you
calculated
it
by
sector.
So
right
now,
it's
calculated
to
ninety
percent
overall,
but
if
you
did
it
sector
by
sector,
those
numbers
would
increase.
So,
for
example,
women
are
at
ninety
nine
percent.
Ninety
eight
ninety
nine
percent,
most
of
the
time
and
so
and
then
other
sectors
kind
of
drag
the
average
down,
and
it
would
also
go
up
if
you
calculated,
the
family,
motels
I
would
argue
properly
we're
right
now.
J
J
K
K
That's
spilled
her
coffee,
another
lady,
had
all
her
belongings
in
a
gym
bag
and
another
woman
rolled
into
it
with
her
shopping,
cart
and
ripped
the
lady's
bag
like
this
is
you
know,
I
I
myself
have
witnessed
the
woman
fighting
for
one
reason
or
another
I
can
see.
This
is
due
to
no
personal
space.
Some
of
these
women
are
already
fleeing
traumatic
situations,
only
to
be
further
traumatized
in
situations
caused
by
over
crowdedness
I.
Believe
living
in
this
in
these
horrific
conditions
can
cause
mental
illness
in
the
long
run.
K
A
24-hour
drop-in
is
not
a
shelter.
There
are
well
over
50
women.
Staying
at
sistering
with
only
one
running
shower.
I
am
NOT,
saying
anything
bad
about
the
organizations
that
offer
these
services
they
do
their
best
with
the
funding
they're
given,
but
it's
not
enough
due
to
the
failure
of
adequate
shelters
or
beds.
I
fear.
We
will
continue
continue
to
see
illness
and
death.
The
homeless
are
in
crisis,
and
why
are
we
not
focusing
on
housing
them?
K
G
K
K
It's
it's
changed
dramatically,
there's
because
of
the
overcrowded
and
as
people
are
at
each
other's
throats
and
it
honestly
I
have
actually
stood
in
the
middle
of
sistering
and
yelled
at
everybody
and
said
you
know
what
we're
all
in
this
together.
You
know
can't
we
all
just
get
along
and
it,
but
tensions
rise
when
you
have
no
personal
space,
I
would
lose
it
too,
and.
G
So
when,
when
you
have,
when
you
have
people
coming
into
to
use
the
facility
and
and
they
all
honestly
just
need
a
place
to,
you-
know,
grab
a
hot
hot
meal
or
just
take
a
break
from
the
code,
but
you've
got
this
sort
of
volatile
and
very
hostile
environment.
What
happens
to
those
individuals
that
come
in
that
we
would
normally
want
to
see
to
come
into
this
history,
not
that
we
don't
want
the
people
there
and
to
get
service,
but
how
much
more
can
you
take
on
like?
Is
there
flexibility
well.
K
You
a
lot
of
women
will
leave
because
of
the
traumatic
situations
I
like
the
lady
that
accidentally
tripped
over
the
one
lady
and
spilled
her
coffee
she's.
No
longer
it's
the
string,
she
left
I,
don't
know
where
she
went
she
as
far
as
I
know
she
could
be
somewhere,
that's
unsafe,
or
you
know,
like
I,
don't.
G
K
It's
because
we
meet
everybody
where
they're
at
some
people
are
homeless.
Some
are
like
me,
myself:
I
use
the
services,
but
I
have
I,
am
housed
I'm
under
house,
mind
you,
but
I'm
housed
and
I'm
thankful
for
even
being
under
house.
Cuz
I
see
what
these
women
are
going
through.
You
know,
and
it's
just
I
wish
I
could
because
I've
actually
done
it.
K
My
friend
of
mine,
a
few
years
ago,
she
lost
her
housing
because
she
got
in
a
fire
and
I
had
her
and
her
boyfriend
come
stay
with
me
now,
I
have
a
small
little
bachelor
and
I
was
sleeping
on.
Myself
was
like
a
flex
mat
because
funding
for
anybody
on
social
services
enough
my
rents
way
too
high
to
afford
furniture.
K
K
L
Thank
you.
Mr.
chair
I'm,
the
executive
director
at
sistering
and
Cathy
showed
the
picture
earlier
of
All
Saints.
The
picture
we
have
up
now
is
Moss
park.
Our
new
armories
and
I
just
wanted,
particularly
mr.
chair
to
your
questions
to
Kathy,
which
I
thought
were
a
bit
chastising
of
her
to
push
to
get
the
Armory's
opening
open.
If
you
look
at
this
and
you
look
at
the
picture,
we
had
from
st.
Margaret's,
anyone
would
choose
this,
even
if
it's
only
for
a
week
and
the
people
that
use
the
drop-ins
in
the
shelter's.
L
Their
lives
are
terribly
chaotic
if
they
could
get
that
space,
as
I
said
for
a
week
or
a
day
or
a
month,
have
to
move
to
All
Saints,
they
do
it
in
a
minute
and
in
fact,
people
travel
from
dropping
to
drop
in
shelter
to
shelter
in
part
by
because
of
what
Dana
says
when
you're
elbow-to-elbow
you
get
on
each
other's
nerves,
and
someone
decides
to
take
a
break.
We
have
a
woman.
I've
talked
to
at
some
committees.
79
years
old
has
lived
on
the
street
for
the
last
two-and-a-half
years.
She
comes
to
sistering.
L
She
sleeps
on
three
kitchen
chairs
and
she
does
that
she
used
to
do
it
for
several
weeks
at
a
time
now.
She
can
only
really
manage
it
for
a
week
at
a
time
and
then
she
goes
to
women's
res
or
Evangeline
to
get
started
them.
She
comes
back.
She
goes
to
Adelaide,
I,
don't
know
about
the
men's
sector,
but
the
women
move
around,
because
they
they
form
relationships
and
then
they
get
in
spats
with
each
other.
Then
they
separate
for
a
while
and
they
come
back
but
honest
to
goodness.
L
B
E
Fletcher
Patricia,
thank
you
for
being
here.
You've
been
a
regular
participant
over
the
last
couple
years.
I
mean
I
want
to
take
a
step
back
and
not
get
into
the
nitty-gritty.
You
were
a
senior
public
servant
here
at
the
city,
working
at
parks,
whoring
rec
for
years
and
a
couple
years
ago,
I
know
you
moved
into
the
shelter
sector,
that's
sistering,
so
I
guess.
The
question
is
to
take
a
step
back
not
to
get
into
the
policy
weeds,
put
I'd
ask
sitting
in
our
chair
or
sitting
in
in
our
city,
staffs,
chair
yeah.
E
L
Think,
first
of
all,
I'd
get
the
various
departments
involved
together
and
come
up
with
a
plan
that
everyone
could
play
their
part
in
I.
Think
if
the
suggestion
of
another
voice
from
the
city
going
to
the
province
going
to
the
feds,
FF,
f,
MC
FCM
as
former
councillor
Layton,
did
I
mean
I
think
in
his
time
he
was
very
effective
at
making
the
Canada
wide
connections
for
these
kinds
of
problems.
I
think
the
city
has
to
start
and
I
think
it's
starting.
L
E
Can
I
your
advice,
then
iran,
because
we
have
representatives
here
from
a
lot
of
different
departments
and
divisions
who
I
can
attest
over
the
last
month
of
being
an
all-hands-on-deck
approach?
I
guess
inciting
permanent
shelter
sites.
The
role
of
all
different
departments
and
thinking
outside
of
the
box
are
more
creatively.
Do
you
see
that
as
a
role
having
been
at
PFN
are,
for
example,
in
your
past
I.
L
My
experience
here
I
could
see
LOX
just
on
that
department.
Lots
of
areas
where
Parks
and
Rec
could
play
a
role
anecdotally
in
the
olden
days
when
we
had
this
crisis,
we
have
heated
field
houses,
they're
heated,
all
winter,
and
so
I
brought
a
report
to
council
to
say:
let's
open
up
the
field
house,
so
people
are
not
going
to
die.
The
city
solicitor
had
a
major
connection,
wrote
a
report.
E
I
think
in
just
I
guess
I
would
just
put
it
as
a
final
question.
Here,
we've
talked
about
the
more
systemic
housing
solutions
across
all
levels
of
government,
but
as
we
look
to
next
winter
understanding
the
strain
of
some
of
the
drop-in
and
respite
providers,
given
that
some
of
them,
like
yourselves,
are
not
city-run,
should
we
think
creatively
next
winter,
if
we
don't
have
enough
permanent
beds,
open
that
at
least
we're
not
scrambling
to
try
to
deal
with
the
the
drop-in
situation.
I.
L
Think
so
I
think
you
need
to
plan
now
and
I
think
with
due
respect
to
city
and
city
staff.
Community
agencies
run
these
programs
at
less
cost,
and
then
it
costs
the
city
itself
to
run
them
right
and
so
I
would
be
devolving,
droppings
and
shelters
to
the
sector
just
for
staff
costs
alone,
if
nothing
else,
and
that
will
save
a
fair
bit
of
money,
and
we
need
to
have
a
plan
like
this.
G
Yeah
Patricia
I
wanted
to
ask
a
question
regarding
the
standards,
because
it
sounds
to
me
that
number
one
sistering
is
is
full
yes
capacity.
You
don't
want
to
turn
people
away.
Kathy
mentioned
creating
standards
for
the
warming
respite
for
the
drop-in
centers,
probably
for
the
out
of
the
code,
because
we've
heard
about
the
some
of
the
conditions
there,
you
would
welcome
standards
well,.
L
L
G
L
It
I
think
we've
got
a
couple
of
creative
ways.
We
have
an
all-female
cleaning
company
that
we
hired
and
first
thing
in
the
morning.
We
move
people
from
a
third
of
the
space
all
to
one
end,
and
then
the
cleaners
go
in
there
and
clean
and
disinfect
that
area
and
people
move
back
and
then
we
we
do
it
in
sections
smooth
people
around
and
then
they
come
back.
They
do
that
at
nine
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
then
they
come
back
in
the
eight
o'clock
at
night.
L
G
So
when,
when
shelters
and
many
of
them
don't
have
day
programs,
and
so
they
are
they're
inviting
their
guests
to
leave
because
it's
time
for
them
to
clean,
but
yet
you've
managed
to
clean
your
facility
without
kicking
anybody
out
onto
the
street
queuing
up
outside
of
your
facility.
While
you
clean
yeah,
it's.
G
Doable
so
just
just
I
guess:
I
want
to
make
a
note
that
it
is
doable
without
asking
people
to
leave
the
shelters
during
the
day
because
they
don't
come
back
until
it's
suppertime.
That's.
L
G
L
G
B
G
Know,
chair
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
I,
guess
and
understand
for
myself,
but
I
didn't
realize
that
you
had
several
hundred
people
drop
in
during
the
day.
I
knew
about
the
numbers
of
50
and
60,
so
I'm
actually
learning
a
few
things
as
I
asked
these
questions,
so
is
fine,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
your
welcome.
F
L
F
L
F
The
inclusionary
zoning
with
90
80
stories
yep
that
I
thought
that
the
community
asked
would
probably
be
that
the
developer
would
have
to
deliver
a
certain
number
of
units
at
their
own
cost.
In
order
to
get
that
extra
density
right.
Does
the
zoning
isn't
480
stories?
However,
the
new
legislation
indicates
that,
in
order
to
have
any
of
these
new
affordable
units
baked
in
that
the
city
would
have
to
give
up
at
section
37
request
and
pay
the
developer
to
build.
Does
that
seem
logical
to
you?
It.
F
L
L
H
H
and
at
that
time,
if
I
remember
right,
you
had
you
have
an
occupancy
of
for
overnight
of
fifty-fifty
and
if
I
remember
right,
you
were
you
were
taking
in
something
like
75.
The
number
79
sticks
in
my
67
67
yeah,
and
that
was
a
that
was
in
November
and
I.
Know
that
there's
been
there
were
some
attempts
or
I
heard,
tell
of
some
attempts
to
have
some
folks
who
were
who
were
in
with
sistering
regularly
to
move
them
into
into
supportive
housing
units
or
housing
units.
How
did
that
go?
L
Numbers
have
not
changed
they're
the
same,
but
what
has
happened
because
of
the
motel
program.
People
from
women's
residents
have
been
moved
into
motels
and
when
that
first
happened,
women's
rez
offered
us
ten
spots.
So
we
were
able
to
move
ten
of
our
women
there,
but
ten
more
came
in
so
it
hasn't.
It's
moved
to
some
of
our
long-term
people
into
shelter,
but
the
numbers
haven't
decreased,
I,
see
so.
L
Like
one
of
the
when
you're
talking
about
the
numbers
of
people,
we
haven't
really
talked
much
here,
but
women,
women's
homelessness
is
different
than
men's,
so
you
have
women
couchsurfing
or
as
Danis
saying
she,
she
often
has
people
in
her
room
because
there's
no
place
for
them
to
go,
and
so
that
happens
a
lot
at
sistering.
If
someone
has
a
spot,
they
often
invite
people
to
come
and
stay
not
for
a
long
time,
but
to
get
a
break
from
the
space
you'll
find
lots
and
lots
of
women
couchsurfing
or
sleeping
on
someone's
floor.
B
L
G
Thank
you
very
much,
chair
I
want
to
ask
staff
about
the
intake
process
when
someone
walks
through
the
better
living
center,
the
armory,
the
24-hour
rest
bed,
any
of
the
warming
centers.
What
type
of
intake
process
is
there
and
is
it
consistent
from
those
facilities
to
the
other,
the
code
to
the
to
the
to
the
permanent
shelter
beds,
and
then,
where
does
that,
all
that
information
go
and
how
do
you
track
and
monitor
it?
Moving
forward.
M
Through
the
chair,
so
through
the
the
broader
shelter
system,
it
is
standardized
in
Smiths
in
the
low
barrier
locations
there
is
an
abbreviated
process
for
that.
So
there
is
an
intake
process.
Fred
Victor
is
trialing
an
electronic
version
of
that
currently
and
at
the
other
locations
they're
doing
what
they've
done
for
some
time,
which
is
to
document
it
on
paper
and
then
upload
the
information
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day
and.
G
G
M
The
chairs,
so
a
couple
of
things,
is
to
improve
the
collection
of
data
for
certain,
and
we
are
working
with
Toronto
Alliance
to
End
Homelessness,
to
try
and
figure
out
how
we
can
refine
a
unique
identifier
system.
So
we
do
ask
people
for
their
names
and
those
sort
of
things
currently
and
many
people
give
us
those
those
things.
But
some
it
is
a
very
sensitive
issue
about
the
identification
of
individuals
in
the
system,
so
we're
trying
to
improve
the
collection
of
information
so
that
we
can
better
understand
how
to
serve
the
client
population.
So.
G
I
was
informed
recently
by
a
federal
representative.
That's
the
City
of
Toronto
was
one
of
the
few
jurisdictions
across
the
country
that
did
not
have
a
depopulation
strategy
for
the
housing
through
the
housing
sector
and
that
we
were
out
of
all
the
municipalities
across
the
country,
the
only
one
that
was
growing
the
shelter
system
and
not
being
able
to
move
them
into
a
transitional
housing.
How
would
you
respond
to
that
best
suggestion.
M
Through
the
chair,
so
Toronto
has
some
unique
challenges
that
it
faces.
I
would
argue
that
Toronto
is
a
leader
in
this
area
and
so
in
many
ways,
though,
we're
not
comparable
to
some
places.
So
a
good
example
was
Hamilton
was
brought
up
as
the
great
work
that
they're
doing
there
and
Hamilton
is
doing
great
work,
but
their
program
is
almost
identical
to
what
we
do
here
in
Toronto,
but
the
uniqueness
of
the
community.
There
is
quite
different.
M
So
if
you
look
at
their
pit
count
in
2016
it
was
504
in
Toronto
in
2015
it
was
over
5,000,
the
vacancy
rate.
There
is
two
and
a
half
percent
in
Toronto,
its
1%
and
by
CMHC
actually
looking
at
a
market
analysis
of
available
units,
they
the
cost,
was
a
thousand
and
fifty
dollars
for
a
one-bedroom
in
Toronto,
it's
2020,
the
affordability
factors
are
quite
different.
There
is,
it
is
a
very
complex
issue.
M
There
may
be
some
some
additional
resources
there
as
well
that
the
organization
you
know
has
not
continued
to
build
over
time,
but
Toronto's
programs
are
focused
on
eviction
prevention,
housing.
First,
there
is
the
obviously
the
the
large
shelter
system
that
requires
additional
attention
and
also
the
moving
folks
out
into
housing.
Every.
G
Year,
every
single
speaker
today
has
raised
the
issue
of
needing
more
shelter
beds,
more
wraparound
services
for
those
who
are
actually
in
the
shelter's
in
the
drop-in
facilities
needing
a
permanent
and
supportive
housing.
You
know
the
plethora
and
the
range
of
housing
and,
and
and
yet
we
also
know
that
the
provincial
and
federal
government
are
largely
partners
that
have
to
come
to
the
table.
Can
you
just
highlight
for
me
if
we
were
able
to
have
this
conversation
with
the
provincial
and
federal
partners
today?
G
G
M
That
ready
go
through
the
chair.
The
the
organisation
does
have
the
service
plan.
We
are
meeting
as
a
city
with
many
divisions
in
the
development
of
a
new
housing
plan
for
the
coming
decade.
That
is
happening
right
now
and
we
have
deep
connections
with
the
province
and
the
federal
government
talking
to
them
about.
There's
these
very
serious
issues
in.
M
H
Our
just
two
questions
because
I
know:
we've
had
lots
of
conversations
that
past
several
weeks.
One
is:
does
our
computer
system
track?
Is
there
a
screen
that
someone
at
Central
intake
or
at
Peter,
Street
or
the
drop
ins,
can
look
at
that
basically
says?
Okay,
we
have
three
beds
here.
You
know
on
a
real-time
basis,
I
know
with
Phil
Brown.
We
were.
We've
spent
a
lot
of
money
developing
something
and
I'm
wondering.
If
is
that
what
we
developed
I
thought,
that's
what
we
were
developing
so
through.
M
The
chair,
yes,
we
do
have
a
system
system
has
been
in
place
for
some
time,
and
I
would
argue
that
we
and
we're
in
the
process
of
working
through
updating
the
system
to
make
it
better.
It
is,
it
is
imperfect,
I
would
say,
but
yes,
we
can
look
in
real-time
to
see
what
the
vacancies
are.
Part
of
the
issue
with
that
to
consider
is
like
a
hospital.
The
beds
come
open
and
close
regularly
regularly
through
the
24
hour
period,
and
so
at
a
point
in
time
you
will
see
something
closed.
M
Something
opens
something
closed,
which
is
the
management
that
people
talk
about
at
Peter
Street
for
looking
through
the
system
for
individual
needs
and
then
finding
a
location
that
all
being
said.
The
system
is
very
busy
and
you
know
it's
it's
at
95%
capacity.
So
when
you're
looking
at
63
small
locations
around
the
city,
you
know
that
it's
dynamic
and
changes
all
the
time,
but.
H
M
So
they
can
look
at
the
screen
at
covenant
accounts,
but
you
have
to
if
you're
going
to
send
somebody
to
the
bed.
Then
you
have
to
book
that
bed
and
hold
it
so
at
individual
locations,
they're
working
with
Peter
Street
and
within
the
system
to
make
sure
that
a
bed
is
available
and
you
don't
send
someone
somewhere
and
they
show
up.
And
then
the
bed
has
already
been
taken.
H
So
if
a
John
Doe
goes
to
Peter,
Street
or
anyplace
else,
we
don't
ask
any
health
data,
we
don't
do
any
health
assessment
and
we
don't
do
currently
any
other
demographic
data.
You
know
male
55.
These
are
his
or
her
ailments.
This
is
a
region
of
Toronto
of
origin.
You
know
they
might
be
coming
from
Rexdale,
it
might
be
come
from
downtown.
Toronto
is
any
of
that
data
collected
to
be
able
to
do
a
good
casework.
You
need
that
data
so.
M
M
H
That
would
be
a
growing
edge.
Would
it
not
be
where
we're
you
know,
I
go
to
Ireland,
just
because
the
sister
ring
and
then
I
go
to
another
place
that
it
would
be
good
to
respect
privacy
issues,
of
course,
but
at
the
same
time
be
able
to
transfer
that
so
that
there's
a
continuity
of
care,
especially
if
they
are
highly
mobile
clients.
M
Yeah,
so
we
get
into
very
deep
privacy
issues
around
health
care
information,
so
we're.
Actually,
that
is
something
that
we've
been
talking
to
the
Lynne
about,
but
yeah
with
a
health
care
workers
working
with
other
health
care
workers.
In
the
continuum
of
that
care,
just
like
in
a
hospital,
you
would
be
able
to
transfer
with
consent
information
to
make
sure
that
you
follow
that
patients
care.
Okay,.
E
Thank
you,
and,
first
of
all,
just
to
our
GM
first
Paul
to
you
and
your
team.
Thank
you
for
the
work
that's
being
done
over
the
last
month
and
a
half
I
know
it
has
been
a
lot
of
work.
First,
question
is
just
related
to
the
period
after
April.
15
is,
if
there's
council
direction
to
seek
to
have
spaces,
continue
to
be
open
to
ensure
that
we
are
as
close
as
possible
that
90
percent
target
on
a
respite
or
drop
in
capacity.
M
The
chair,
it's
probably
early
to
give
you
a
definitive
answer.
I
can
tell
you
that
we
will
do
everything
possible
to
to
make
that
happen.
Much
of
the
service
that's
provided
are
provided
is
not
provided
by
the
city
is
provided
by
other
agencies
and
organizations,
so
those
things
require
consent
board
approvals,
all
of
those
types
of
things,
but,
of
course,
if
we
receive
that
direction
as
when
we
received
direction
for
any
of
the
pieces,
we
were
we
do
everything
we
can
to
make
it
happen.
Thank.
E
You
I
want
to
transition
to
some
questions
around
sort
of
the
housing
first
approach
and
then
just
some
questions
related
to
the
budget.
First,
on
sort
of
the
overall
continuum
of
housing
do
do
we
have
access
to
supportive
housing.
So
when
we're
dealing
with
our
more
than
6,000
people
who
are
using
the
rain
change
of
services
through
SSH
a
you
provide,
do
we
have
access
to
supportive
housing
so
that
we
can
make
those
transitions
yeah.
M
Through
the
chair,
so
there
is
really
very
little
access
to
supportive
housing,
and
that
I
mean
that's
evidenced
in
the
the
emergency
shelter
system.
Ten
percent
of
our
users
use
sixty
percent
of
the
bed
nights
and
the
emergency
shelter
system,
and
that
is
because
there
is
really
nowhere
for
those
individuals
to
go
so
the
organization-
and
this
is
not
seen-
there's
19
thousand
people
that
actually
roll
through
the
system
every
year.
M
Two-Thirds
or
more
of
those
people
are
with
us
for
less
than
three
months
and
they
receive
assistance
from
all
of
the
different
folks
working
within
the
sector
and
they
get.
You
know
they
get
back
and
out
of
the
emergency
shelter
system.
But
there
is
a
core
group
of
people
who
require
very
deep
supportive
housing,
and
that
is
just
not
available
to
them.
Right
now
and.
M
E
One
of
the
requests
in
the
open
letter,
and
which
will
be
formally
tabled
here,
is
a
motion
by
councillor.
Wong-Tam
is
at
our
meeting
in
February.
In
addition
to
what
we've
talked
about
the
immediate
steps
now
after
April
15th
to
do
a
deep
dive
into
the
supportive
housing
framework,
the
permanent
beds.
All
of
those
would
you
be
able
to
have
the
answers
to
the
questions
of
the
funding
framework,
how
many
supportive
housing
beds
are
available?
What
the
province
is
doing,
what
we
can
be
doing?
M
The
chair,
I
think
we
can
have
an
initial
discussion.
I
think
we
should
be
cautious
to
note
that
you
know
we
have
some
fairly
basic
information
at
our
fingertips
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
our
team
really
wants
to
do
is
to
improve
our
ability
to
really
look
at
information
and
so
that
we
can
have
better
conversations,
but
certainly
we
can
have
an
initial
discussion
about
that.
Absolutely
I
want.
E
To
in
my
time,
left
transition
a
little
bit
to
the
dollars
and
cents
here,
because
it
how
we,
how
we
allocate
our
funds,
is
a
reflection
of
the
priorities
of
decision
makers,
those
being
the
government
here.
So
how
many
new
full-time
employees
has
the
shelter,
Spartan
housing
administration
department?
E
M
F
Here
we
go,
I
was
quite
taken,
as
you
all
know,
I
love,
charts
and
I,
like
numbers,
so
with
the
chart
that
AJ
withers
handed
in
today,
that
has
the
estimated
number
of
emergency
shelters.
It
just
has
the
number
of
beds
and
the
usage
and
everything.
Would
you
say
that
the
numbers
that
are
in
here
are
correct
or
you'd
like
to
answer
that
when
you
come
back
in
February,
if
this
motion
passes
for
February
the
28th.
F
You'd
be
able
to
comment
more
on
this
when
I
know
that
councillor
Wong
Tim,
there's
a
motion
here
today
to
look
at
what
we're
doing
so.
We
could
actually
break
these
down
a
little
bit
number
of
beds
in
the
system
and
where
those
shelters
are
located,
who's
operating
them.
Those
kinds
of
things
I'm
expecting
that
that's
something
that
will
kind
of
get
a
full
briefing
off
in
February,
so
that
those
would
all
add
up
then
to
5896
or
close.
F
M
F
In
the
totals
of
the
number
of
beds,
then
the
emergency
uses
the
draw
pins,
etc,
and
then
we
have
the
overnight
winter
at
7:00,
13.
So
I
think
that
it
would
be
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
dive
into
this
a
little
bit
deeper
in
February
assume
that
motion
passes,
but
also
to
say,
I'm,
quite
interested
in
digging
down
into
some
of
these,
including
beds
in
the
system,
ones
that
have
closed
ones
coming
on
stream,
replacement,
relocation,
new,
etc
through
the
chair
yeah.
That's
that's
we'll
be
able
to
do
then.
F
That's
great,
and
so
the
other
thing
then,
is
I
was
going
to
ask
about
your
budget
requirements,
but
councillor
Krusty
beat
me
to
that.
Do
you
have
any
estimate
of
federal
and
provincial
dollars
what
the
influx
that
we'd
like
to
see
from
those
two
levels
of
government
in
order
to
have
a
robust
system
for
temporary,
as
well
as
for
our
permanent
beds
or
transitional
beds,
our
first
steps
to
homes
beds
through.
J
M
F
M
F
We
had
a
cap,
we've
had
extra
volume
doing
more
and
we
have.
Basically
we
should
be
sending
an
invoice
up
to
Queens
Park,
and
it's
meant
that
we
have
not
been
able
to
do
as
much
as
we'd
like
to
do
that.
We
see
conditions
that
we've
seen
today,
I'm
not
going
to
make
my
speech
now,
but
I
really
would
like
to
have
that
number.
I.
F
B
You
Thank
You
councillor,
Fletcher
I,
just
have
a
couple
of
quick
questions:
I
guess
the
cautionary
tale
about
using
third-party
facilities
such
as
federal
facilities.
You
can't
control
when
you
take
possession
and
when
you
have
to
leave.
Is
it
correct
that
we
have
to
depart
the
armory
by
January,
the
24th
29th?
Sorry.
B
B
M
Correct
so
the
the
province
has
provided
354
George
Street
they're
working
currently
with
our
team
on
the
facilities
management
side
to
ensure
that
that
location
is
ready
to
go.
It
is
a
location
that
will
have
at
least
a
hundred
spaces
available
and
we're
also
looking
another
location
in
the
event
that
that
we
need
that.
B
B
Fair
enough,
when
it
comes
to
medical
attention
and
medical
intervention
is
how
do
we
understand
homeless
persons,
medical
history
in
order
to
to
help
them
in
any
way,
do
we
do
sort
of
a
physical?
Do
we
have
GPS
on-site
that
could
come
and
do
an
examination.
Do
we
take
bloodwork
what
what
degree
of
medical
intervention
is
available
on-site
so.
M
It's
a
generally
throughout
the
chute,
the
shelter
system,
the
amazing
people
there
do
their
best
to
ensure
that
people
get
medical
attention
through.
You
know
the
hospital
system,
the
healthcare
system.
Generally,
there
is
not,
you
know
a
high
degree
of
healthcare
support
within
the
emergency
shelter
system.
B
We
have
a
universal
single-payer
system,
so
anybody,
if
we
find
a
doctor,
maybe
a
doctors
without
borders'
concept,
a
group
of
doctors
who
can
work
in
the
shelter's
they
would
still
be
able
to
I
guess.
If
some
of
our
clients,
our
residents,
have
OHIP
cards
still
bill
back
accordingly,
the
way
your
your
family
GP
would.
M
So
the
model
at
Seton
houses
is
a
good
model.
Inner-City
health
team
associates.
You
know
they
work
out
of
st.
Mike's.
There
is
funding
from
the
Ministry
of
Health
to
provide
specific
care
to
clients
of
Seton
house,
so
the
funding
is
there
and-
and
you
know,
I
can't
give
you
the
exact
breakdown
of
how
they,
how
they
work
that
funding
model,
but
it
seems
to
work
well.
The.
A
Yes,
mr.
chair,
we
do
so
you
had
asked
some
questions
if
I
can
just
round
out
and
expand
a
little
further,
you
would
ask
some
questions
around
the
reporting
of
homeless
deaths.
That
is
an
initiative
that
Toronto
Public
Health
started
in
January
of
2017,
and
it
actually
requires
the
participation
of
over
200
communities
and
social
service
agencies
to
help
us
find
out.
A
You
know,
have
there
been
deaths
amongst
our
homeless
and
under
house
population,
and
we
seek
to
get
as
much
information
around
the
circumstances
of
those
deaths
so
that
we
can
better
understand
what
some
of
the
circumstances
are
and
then
come
up
with
solutions
in
partnership
with
whether
it's
SSH,
a
other
city
divisions,
Lin
partners
and
healthcare
partners.
So.
A
B
G
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
chair
and
clerks
have
put
the
motion
on
the
screen.
I'm,
sorry
that
it's
so
lengthy
in
in
word,
but
hopefully
I
believe
that,
after
a
lot
of
consultation
and
and
and
speaking
with
a
number
of
the
the
colleagues
and
also
incorporating
some
of
the
the
recommendations
from
the
from
the
the
speakers,
we're
gonna
get
to
a
good
place.
Number
one
is
the
City.
Council
reconfirm
is
90
percent
shelter
occupancy
for
the
record,
because
it's
important
to
state
our
values.
G
Let's
do
it
one
more
time
we
did
it
in
two
thousand
nineteen.
Ninety
nine
2001
2002
2003
2004
2008
een,
request
the
federal
government
to
provide
ongoing
access
and
support
in
retaining
the
operation
of
the
MAS
Park
armory
I
recognize
that
there
might
be
some
difficulty
with
that
with
the
federal
government
but
I
think
as
Kathy
crow
has
rightly
stated
you,
don't
you
don't
ask,
then
you
won't
know.
So
it's
okay,
if
they
say
no
to
us,
I
think
it's
just
very
important.
G
Again,
it's
just
starting
the
conversation
and
putting
it
all
on
the
table
also
to
request
that
we
retain
their
operations
and
the
necessary
respite.
Centers.
The
warming
centers
that
drop-in
facilities
beyond
the
scheduled
closing
date
of
April
the
15th
I
know
that
staff
have
done
a
phenomenal
job
of
getting
these
facilities
opens.
This
has
been
a
very
difficult
winter
when
I
say
that
the
the
the
that
the
the
workers
of
fraud
Richter
didn't
necessarily
have
a
holiday
break.
I'm
sure
you
in
the
frontline
staff,
that's
SSA.
G
J
did
not
have
a
holiday
break
and
I
want
to
just
acknowledge
that
in
the
middle
of
a
crisis
in
the
middle
of
an
emergency,
I
think
we're
just
gonna.
Have
the
dig
deeper
right
now
and
see
if
we
can
do
the
very
best
we
can
and
extend
those
facilities
because
having
700
people,
who's
sleeping
rough
right
now,
precariously
dropped
onto
the
streets
by
the
way
of
us
closing
those
facilities
is
just
not
on
not
when
we
know
that
we're
willingly
doing
it
and
to
is
to
work
with
the
operators
of
the
hourly
Col
program.
G
There
may
be
some
that
are
not
that
are
ready
to
close
up
sooner
rather
than
later.
I
understand,
it's
been
a
very
difficult
winter
for
them,
but
let's
see
if
there
are
some
that
may
have
a
volunteer
and
the
staffing
capacity
that
could
perhaps
they
open
longer
and
again.
This
is
not
a
demand,
but
rather
just
simply
a
request
with
our
community
partners
out
there,
given
the
state
of
winter
readiness
I
want
us
to
be
even
better
prepared
next
time
around.
G
I
think
that
the
report
that
came
to
the
last
CDR
meeting
was
rather
late
and
the
the
season
as
we
voted
on
some
of
those
works,
some
of
the
work
in
2000
and
at
the
end
of
2018.
Let's
start
that
work
now
and
you
already
have
a
plan.
Let's
see
we
can
improve
it.
Taking
on
the
recommendation
of
Cathy
Crowe
is
to
also
develop
immediate
service
and
maintenance
standards
for
the
respite,
centers,
24-hour
drop-ins
warming
facilities,
I,
think
and,
and
the
other
code
programs
I
think
we
can
all
agree.
G
The
images
that
were
shown
on
the
screen
are
just
not
acceptable.
Those
open
spaces
are
performing
the
cheek
to
jowl
resting
space
on
the
on
the
floors
is
not
it's
not
safe,
it's
not
hygienic,
and
it's
actually
certainly
not
humane
and
I.
Think
we
can
do
better
and
I
like
the
idea
of
having
the
trial.
Board
of
Health
perhaps
provide
some
oversight
to
make
sure
those
standards
are
met.
G
So
we'll
we'll
have
this
discussion
again
at
about
one
month.
What
was
also
main
evidently
clear
is
that
we
probably
don't
have
as
much
data
as
we
need,
and
this
is
actually
very
crucial
for
us
moving
forward.
So
the
first
request
that
I'd
like
to
put
on
the
table-
and
this
is
again
in
consultation
and
dialogue
with
a
number
of
the
members
are
here-
is
I-
want
us
to
put
in
1,000
plus
at
a
minimum
new
permanent
shelter
beds
into
the
system.
G
I,
don't
think
that
we
can
start
with
a
smaller
number,
it
may
grow
from
there.
But,
let's
start
at
the
very
least
with
the
1,000.
We
also
need
to
know
the
number
of
real
permanent,
real
permanent
shelter
beds
in
Toronto.
We
need
to
have
a
fuller
understanding
of
a
number
of
motel
beds,
hotel
beds
and
then
who's
staying
in
them.
G
Besides
the
category
of
families,
we
need
to
have
proper
accounting
of
the
population
that
we
are
trying
to
serve
and
reach
to
reach
out
to
I
also
want
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
replacement
beds
that
have
come
online
versus
those
that
are
brand
new
shelters,
because
too
often,
for
example,
we
celebrated
the
this.
Could.
B
H
B
G
Oh
tres
I'm,
hoping
that's
gonna,
provide
information
and
just
some
clarity,
because
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we're
all
just
trying
to
get
to
a
place
of
having
enough
data
and
what
we've
heard
now
from
frontline
workers
and
other
folks
is
that
they
would
love
to
be
able
to
have
a
centralized.
I
mean
there
is
a
centralized
intake
system,
but
I
don't
think
it's
working
as
well
as
they
can,
and
just
as
much
as
our
general
manager
has
said.
There
are
modifications
to
be
made.
G
I
would
like
to
put
a
challenge
out
there
to
say
that
perhaps
we
need
to
do
more
than
just
modify.
Maybe
what
we
need
is
a
brand
new
system
that
is
going
to
be
open
data
in
real
time
where
it's
accessible
and
still
be
able
to
manage
the
the
privacy
issues
that
we
have
to
manage
and
then
track
that
as
an
individual.
Who
is
highly
mobile.
G
Moves
from
facility
to
facility
so
it
doesn't
get
lost
and
the
rest
of
it
I
won't
get
into
because
it
really
does
speak
to
supportive
housing
and
making
sure
that
we
bring
our
provincial
and
federal
partners
to
the
table
and
also
asking
the
fact
that
when
they
come
to
the
table,
we're
gonna
before
we
speak
to
them.
But
we
need
to
have
some
very
clear
detail,
accounting
of
what
have
they
done
for
us
so
far,
because
in
my
conversations
with
MPs
and
MPs,
they
say
that
they've
done
plenty.
G
Toronto
has
gotten
so
much,
but
they're
also
telling
me
that
we're
taking
their
money
and
suppressing
their
tax,
the
property
tax
rate,
so
they're
actually
suggesting
that
we
haven't
to
use
our
there
very
wisely.
So,
let's
demonstrate,
if
that's
true
and
I,
would
like
to
see
that
myself.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
You
very
much
mr.
chair,
first
I'll
be
supporting
counselor
wrong
times.
Motion
and
I
want
to
say
the
following
things.
First,
I
am
thankful
to
the
advocates
to
the
frontline
workers
to
civil
society
for
the
last
month
in
the
advocacy.
Yes,
it
has
been
a
little
bit
of
bump
and
grind
and
I've
been
at
the
tail
end
of
some.
H
H
H
One
of
the
regrets,
I,
think
of
the
last
month
month
and
a
half
has
been
that
they
sometimes
have
been
pictured
as
the
enemy
or
or
certainly
not
understanding
things,
and
it
is
my
experience
that
they
totally
understand
and
that
they
are
working
in
a
very
limit,
with
very
limited
resources,
trying
to
do
the
best
that
they
can
and
I
think
I
think
that
I
am
thankful.
I'm
thankful
that
they're
there
I
find
them
totally
committed
to
the
task
at
hand
and
totally
supportive
and
I.
Think
we
in
Toronto
Oh
them
also
supportive,
supportive
encouragement.
H
What
I
see
here
frankly
and
I
think
the
deputy
is
all
spoke
to
it
in
different
perspectives,
is
a
great
big
broad
systems.
Failure
failures
at
the
federal
level
at
the
provincial
level
in
the
healthcare
in
the
house
using
supports
in
the
housing
system
in
the
shelter
system,
with
the
tax
rate
and
here
at
the
city
that
is
driving
all
these
cuts
and
has
been
driving
them
for
twenty
years,
and
that
this
is
the
thing
that
we
need
to
turn
around.
H
I
also
think
that,
right
now,
because
of
the
way
this
has
kind
of
developed,
this
is
a
moment
of
a
grand
opportunity
for
us
to
get
to
get
some
good
things
done,
and
it
comes
because
of
the
public
attention
because
of
the
social
media
because
of
the
coldest
winter
to
date.
In
a
long
time.
All
these
things
come
together.
We've
got
people's
attention
and
we
should
grab
it
and
seize
it
ferociously.
H
The
motions
are
as
follows
in
that
they
are
in
addition
to
councillor
wong
x,
motions.
First,
this
is
the
refugees
seeing
that
I
was
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
The
refugee
advocate
to
look
at
and
I
know.
Staff
are
doing
this.
This
affirms
that
work
that
they
are
doing
when
you
consider
that
we
have
29
percent
of
our
shelter
users
are
our
refugee
refugee
claimants
or
soon-to-be
refugee
claimants.
It's
almost
like.
H
We
need
a
separate
or
a
sub
separate
system
here
linked
to
refugee
lawyers
and
appropriate
supports
that
are
that
are
different
than
the
supports
from
the
call
it
regular,
shelter
users
right
now.
The
way
our
system
is
is
that
it
is
our
staff
that
make
the
agreements
with
with
the
motels
and
in
hotels.
It
would
just
be
so
much
smarter
for
us
to
say.
Okay,
there
are
X
number
of
refugees
serving
agencies.
H
H
It
is
another
thing
for
us
to
say
and
I
I
think
we
all
heard
him
say
very
clearly
that
his
system
has
grown
by
30
percent,
depending
on
how
you
count
up
to
50
percent
bigger
and
the
cases
are
more
complex
and
he
has
less
staff
to
deal
with
it
less
money,
even
when
adjusted
for
inflation
to
deal
with
the
issues
at
hand
and
I
hear
it
from
frontline
workers.
I've
talked
a
lot
of
them
in
the
last
little,
while
it's
everything
from
management,
the
food
staff
to
cleaners
to
client
services.
H
They
just
can't
do
it
and
we
need
an
honest
review
of
this
resources
that
are
necessary
to
carry
this
shelter
system
over
the
next
little
while
and
a
third
party
can
do
it.
So
it's
not
him
seeing
or
it's
not
that
Paul
Raftis,
seeing
that
he's
feathering
his
own
departmental
nest,
but
that
it
is
an
honest
review
that
we
will
have
to
deal
with
honestly
as
a
City
Council
and,
of
course,
Council
will
have
the
right
to
say
no,
but
it
needs
the
facts.
It
needs
the
facts.
H
So
that's
what
that
tries
to
do,
and
then
that
also
looks
at
training
standards
and
upgrades
as
required.
And
then
the
third
piece
is
an
O
to
councillor
along
terms
of
motion
of
the
an
analysis
of
the
number
of
transitional
and
supportive
housing
units
required
to
accommodate
residents
and
shelter,
and
that
really
is
part
of
the
both
end.
We
need
to
do
the
shelter
analysis
work
and
we
also
need
to
look
at
the
transitional
and
supportive
housing
work.
H
We
do
have
a
priority
for
in
our
in
our
housing
waiting
list
for
people
who
are
palliative
or
near
the
end
of
their
life,
for
people
who
are
struggling
with
a
violence
against
women
who
are
who
are
in
that
Deen
to
be
in
that
category.
They
get
a
bump
up
in
terms
of
affordable
housing
units,
but
we
need
we
need
to
figure
this
out.
H
You
know
this
has
been
an
issue
for
like
10
years,
20
years
frankly,
since
the
deinstitutionalization
of
folks,
frankly
in
the
mid
1990s,
so
to
try
to
get
a
handle
on
what
the
numbers
are
and
to
also
put
it
in
the
context
of
all
the
other,
how
pressures
that
we
have
up
on
our
housing
system.
That's
what
this
motion
that
tries
to
do.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
Thank
you,
chair
and
and
I
will
be,
supporting
the
motions
that
have
been
presented.
I
have
a
very
short
motion
as
well
if
it
can
be
put
on
the
screen,
which
is
simply
to
request
that
we
have
Lynn
in
the
province
here
to
join
in
the
presentation
at
that
meeting
next
month,
so
that
we
can
ask
both
and
I've
spoken
with
the
DCM
about
this.
Let
me
begin
my
remarks
by
by
thanking
our
city
of
Toronto
staff,
who
are
exceptional
city
employees.
E
I
know
this
has
been
an
exceptionally
difficult
period,
most
particularly
for
those
who
are
homeless
and
those
living
rough
on
the
streets.
We
recognize
that
it
is
also
been
for
those
who
are
thankful
to
have
a
comfortable
room
over
their
heads
but
are
nonetheless
working
tirelessly,
and
this
has
been
a
particularly
difficult
period
for
them
and
I
want
to
thank
our
city
staff
I
want
to
thank
our
frontline
providers
and
experts.
We
heard
from
many
of
them
here
today
for
I
think
helping
to
bring
the
the
eyes
of
Torontonians
into
the
shelter
and
housing
crisis.
E
Torontonians
are
deeply
caring
and
empathetic
people,
but
I
think
it
was
this
winter
for
the
first
time
in
some
time
that
Torontonians
have
had
the
opportunity
to
truly
understand
the
state
of
this
crisis,
which
is
indeed
a
crisis
and
an
emergency
and
I
think
our
frontline
experts
and
providers
have
much
too.
We
should
be
thankful
to
them.
For
that
listen
demand
is
growing
on
our
shelter
system.
We
know
that
it
is
caused
by
a
marauder
factors
from
poverty
to
global
instability,
to
distrain
rental
housing
market.
E
All
of
the
above,
the
bottom
line
is
the
situation
is
untenable.
It's
not
livable
and
as
a
city
as
a
province
as
a
country
doing
as
well
as
we
are,
when
you
have
a
situation
of
this
dire
circumstance
for
so
many
I
think
can
be,
it
can
easily
be
said
that
we're
actually
not
doing
well,
in
fact
we're
failing
and
so
councilor
Wang
Tam's
motion
that
I
was
part
of
the
open
letter
released
yesterday
and
I
was
proud
to
have
played
a
very
tiny
part
and
I
think
helps
on
a
number
of
fronts.
E
The
mental
health
supports
the
harm
reduction
supports,
are
in
place
and
as
soon
as
possible
to
ensure
that
we
are
actually
building
we
being
the
city,
the
province
and
the
feds,
the
transitional
and
supportive
housing
and
permanent
housing
so
that
we
don't
have
a
housing
model
based
on
a
shelter
model.
It
should
be
a
housing
model
with
shelter
there.
I
would
just
close
I'm
not
going
to
use
my
full
five
minutes,
which
is
to
say
that
this
crisis
was
predicted.
E
In
fact,
I
think
it
was
created
because
show
me
your
budget
and
I'll
tell
you
what
your
priorities
are
and
every
government
every
level
of
government
created
this
crisis,
everyone
the
province.
Absolutely
they
failed
the
federal
government.
They
may
talk
about
a
national
housing
strategy
now,
but
where
were
they
when
they
created
this
in
the
city,
we've
had
homelessness
growing.
For
ten
years,
the
budget
for
the
shelter
division
has
gone
down,
not
up
when
adjusted
to
inflation.
For
ten
years,
the
number
of
staff
working
in
the
shelter
division
on
homelessness
has
not
increased.
E
F
Where
there's
no
longer
services,
where
the
churches
aren't
operating
any
and
I'm
sure
the
W
city
managers
indicated
that
she'll
be
able
to
do
that.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
over,
as
I
said
earlier
at
our
media
conference
that
there
is
tremendous
support
across
Toronto
from
just
everyday
Torontonians
who
were
in
their
warm
houses
over
Christmas
so
concerned
about
those
without
homes.
To
me,
it's
unprecedented,
the
number
of
people
that
were
moved
and
want
us
to
act
and
the
support
that
we
actually
have.
F
So
this
is
that
moment
when
there's
tremendous
support
from
the
public
there's
tremendous
support
from
the
advocates
and
there's
tremendous
momentum
at
the
city
level.
To
make
something
happen,
we
did
seem
to
have
a
perfect
storm
that
I
suspect,
with
the
system
breakdown
communications
wise
that
no
matter
how
hard
you're
working,
no
matter,
how
hard
anybody's
working
nothing
is
moving
in
the
right
direction.
So
I'm,
certainly
assuming
everybody,
was
doing
their
best
working
as
hard
as
they
could
and
but
when
it's
broken,
it's
broken
and
I.
F
Imagine
if
we
had
the
money.
Imagine
what
that
might
look
like.
It
didn't
look
like
that,
and
so
I
really
think
that
and
I'd
like
to
know
that
number
and
our
deputy
city
managers
indicated
we
will
come
back
and
say
without
that
cap:
here's
here's
what
we
would
have
had
and
I
think
we're
all
in
this
together.
It's
great
that
we
can
hear
from
so
many
of
you
here
today.
F
We
have
to
talk
about
housing,
so
you
have
to
be
able
to
talk
about
housing
to
friends.
You
have
to
know
that
that
inclusionary
zoning
model
will
build
nothing
as
far
as
what
we're
looking
for
in
the
number
of
units
that
have
been
approved,
we
have
to
have
something
from
the
province
that
allows
us
to
build
and
doesn't
allow
the
OMB
to
overturn
so
I'm,
really
asking
you
please
be
as
passionate
and
careful
as
you
are
on
shelters
and
come
to
our
aid
with
inclusionary
zoning.
It's
so
important
and
also
you're.
B
F
B
You
councillor
Fletcher
I'll,
just
speak
for
for
a
minute.
I
have
one
motion
here:
I
crafted
it
before
I
realized
that
council
wantem
has
actually
included
harm
reduction,
supports
in
item
e
in
her
motion,
but
I
think
I'll
table
it
anyway.
There
are
some
concerns
from
some
of
the
out
of
the
coal
providers
that
users
of
needles
are
entering
their
facilities
and
causing
deep
distress,
and
these
operators
really
don't
know
what
to
do
with
the
cleanup
and
the
needle
disposal
and
they
requested
a
document
or
the
requested.
B
So
it's
very
important
to
work
with
these
groups
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
education
and
the
tools
necessary
to
respond
to
the
use
of
drugs
on-site,
how
to
clean
them,
have
disposed
to
the
needles
and
make
sure
that
they
stay
an
active
partner
in
in
what
we're
doing
just
want
to
point
out.
In
my
comments
that
on
December
the
5th
at
Council
December
6th,
we
passed
a
26-point
a
plan,
just
direct
staff
back
on
a
number
of
different
strategic
measures
to
take
a
good
system
and
make
it
make
it
better.
B
That
combined
with,
what's
being
passed
here
today
and
what's
going
up
to
council,
sends
a
clear
framework
of
where,
where
councilors
want
staff
to
take
our
shelter
system,
our
respite
system
make
it
better,
improve
it
make
sure
outcomes
are
better
and
measurable
and
make
sure
that
people
stay
healthy.
With
that
I'd
just
like
to
thank
our
dedicated
staff.
This
is
been
a
most
difficult
time
when
it
comes
to
homelessness.
It
is
perhaps
the
most
challenging
social
policy
you're
dealing
with
mental
health
issues.
B
You're
dealing
with
with
with
substance,
abuse,
you're
dealing
with
medical
complications
of
all
kinds
of
variety,
and
it
remains
one
of
the
toughest
social
policies
to
tackle,
so
our
staff
have
done
a
remarkable
job
and
they
have
faced
through
the
popular
media,
unfair
criticism
of
the
great
work
that
they're
doing
and
when
you
step
back
for
a
minute,
you
think
that
our
staff
in
our
city
are
responsible
for
housing
or
sheltering
5
over
5,000
people
on
any
given
night
and
providing
various
supports
for
them.
That
is
a
monumental
tasks.
B
Many
towns
and
villages
across
this
country
are
not
I'm,
not
of
that
size
and
you're
dealing
with
a
population
that
that
is
actually
the
most
challenging
in
in
our
city,
and
we
are
supposed
to
provide
them
with
a
safe
place
to
stay,
to
make
sure
people
respect
one
another's
to
feed
them
to
keep
them
warm
to
keep
them
safe
and
it
is
Amba
city
within
a
city,
and
with
that
with
that
lens,
it
is
important
that
we
run
our
city
within
a
city
that
we
provide
the
health
care
they
need.
We
provide
the
transportation.
B
The
communication
system
make
sure
we're
measuring
load
factors,
so
we
send
people
to
the
right
location
in
a
timely
basis.
The
families
with
school-aged
children
are
given
the
resources
they
need
to
make
sure
their
kids
are
properly
schooled
in
in
nearby
locations
or,
if
their
preschool,
that
proper
daycare
facilities
are
also
supplied.
This
is
almost
too
big
a
task
for
a
city
to
manage,
and
that
is
why-
and
they
repeat,
my
colleagues
comments
at
the
federal
and
provincial
governments
must
come
to
the
table.
B
There
is
no
doubt
in
anyone's
mind
that
refugee
siloam
seekers,
immigration
is
federal
jurisdiction.
There
is
no
doubt
around
this
table
that
health
care
is
provincial
jurisdiction,
and
yet,
when
you
see
the
problem
that
we're
facing
homelessness
is
primarily
a
health
care
issue,
the
strain
on
our
system
is
an
immigration
immigration,
newcomer
asylum
seeker,
refugee
issue.
These
different
level
of
government
must
come
to
the
table
to
help
us
do
the
job
that
we
have
to
do,
because
cities
are
judged
on
how
they
treat
their
homeless
and
only
with
the
other
two
levels
of
government.
B
Can
we
meet
the
kind
of
standard
that
we
want
in
the
city
so
with
that
I
just
wanted
to
thank
all
the
deputies
who
came
to
share
their
views
today
we
learned
a
lot.
We
listened
and
I
think
this
dialogue
was
was
very
worthwhile
and,
as
I
said,
combined
with
emotions
that
we
passed
back
in
December
at
Council.
In
addition
to
the
motions
we're
passing
here,
some
will
go
directly
to
stop.
Some
will
go
up
to
council
I.