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Etobicoke York Community Council, meeting 22, May 2, 2017 - Part 1 of 3
Agenda and background materials:
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/decisionBodyProfile.do?function=doPrepare&meetingId=11914
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yNIGhCAxlc
Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCbqs4QbKFM
A
A
B
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I
would
like
to
introduce
a
new
manager
of
Community
Planning,
who
will
be
starting
with
us
on
May
15th
Angela
stea
is
here
and
she
will
be
the
new
community
planning
manager
for
Ward,
three
five
and
six,
and
so
I
would
like
to
introduce
her
to
formally
to
a
community
council.
Angela
has
been
with
the
city
since
2003
started
as
a
planner
and
is
at
the
moment
a
Senior
Planner
with
the
teal
core
project
and,
as
I
said,
will
be
joining
this
full-time
on
May
15.
Thank
you.
Welcome.
A
And
just
while
we're
on
staff
here
nice
to
where
Kim?
Is
it
true
that
you
last
meeting
chemical
will
be
leaving
us?
This
is
our
last
meeting
so
she's
been
that
great
out
here
in
the
West
we're
going
to
miss
Kim.
She
told
me
at
the
other
day,
I
said
we're
gonna
get
a
recorded
vote
on
this,
but
Kim
good
luck,
all
the
best
and
even
awesome.
Thank
you.
B
Yes,
as
you
mentioned
earlier
mr.
chair,
the
item
at
two
nine
one,
five
of
Bloor
Street
is
on
this
evening.
I
live
in
the
Kingsway
area,
very
close
to
that
property.
So
I
have
declared
an
interest
on
that
previously,
so
I
just
wanted
to
advise
community
council
that
I
will
not
be
here
for
the
meeting
on
that
this
evening,
Amelia
floral
will
be
acting
in
my
place
for
that
evening.
Meeting
great.
A
A
D
D
Approve
staffs
recommendation,
we're
naming
two
roads
after
two
very
special
people
in
my
ward,
you
might
remember
them
if
you're
my
age,
I'm,
not
sure,
but
L
fees
up
acosta
who's
in
it
was
an
artist.
It
still
is
an
artist
is
being
honored
with
a
new
road
naming
in
Ward
7.
He
grew
up
in
the
in
the
area
at
Finch,
in
Weston,
Road
and
Claudia
vana
as
well.
D
Another
well-known
artist
is
also
being
recognized,
so
I
just
thought
it
would
be
nice
to
just
remind
people
that
it's
it's
actually
nice
to
be
able
to
name
streets
after
people
that
are
still
living,
especially
the
artists
amongst
our
society
and
hockey,
players
and
and
so
on,
and
so
on
and
so
on.
Thank.
E
A
Good
thanks
work.
Okay
and
I.
Don't
have
my
time
here
today.
It's
been
misplaced,
so
we'll
be
tithing
at
the
back
or
I'll.
Keep
timing
here
on
my
phone.
Okay
will
now
go
through
the
items.
Ey.
Twenty
two
point:
one
request
for
directions:
report
to
9:15:
29:17
blue.
She
was
owning
bylaw
amendment
application-
that
is
a
meeting
at
6:30
and
their
speakers.
A
E
D
F
A
Tons
of
designate
the
taro
here
jack
68
days,
the
avenue
we
have
speakers
at
11:00,
22.5
inclusion,
the
City
of
Toronto
Heritage,
Register,
1,
Blue,
Goose
Street.
We
have
speakers
at
11:00,
very
important
item:
ey,
22.6
application
fence
exemption;
6,
tear
a
side
drive.
We
have
speakers
at
9:45,
ey,
22.7
application,
remove
a
private
tree,
71
Westholme
Avenue.
We
have
speakers
at
10:00,
ey,
22.8
application
to
remove
a
private
tree
to
Sarah
Lou
Court
speakers
at
10:22;
point
nine
application
to
private
trees
at
25
teams.
A
We
have
speakers
at
10,
ey,
22,
point
10,
front
yard,
parking
appeal,
7
dreary.
We
have
speakers
at
10:15,
noting
counter
dousset's
conflict,
ey,
22,
11,
front
yard,
parking
appeals,
64,
house
council;
oh
he
throwed.
We
have
speakers
at
10:15,
ey,
22,
point,
12,
front
yard,
parking
appeal,
six-zero,
Willard,
Avenue
speakers
at
ten
fifteen;
twenty
two
point:
one:
three:
permanent
closure
of
vehicle
traffic
to
a
portion
of
John
Street
extending
over
the
rail
corridor;
south
the
Rosemont
Avenue
and
north
side
of
Station
Street.
A
A
Dungy
animals,
our
staff
recommendations,
all
in
favor
posed
carried
EUI
twenty
two
point:
one
for
permanent
closure
of
portions
of
Valley
Crescent
abutting,
the
rear
of
seventy
five
to
eighty
one
Westbury
present.
We
have
speakers
at
ten
thirty,
twenty
two
point:
one:
five
highway
alteration:
Lake
Shore,
Boulevard,
West,
200
meters,
east
of
Brooker's,
Lane,
councillor,
sorry,
W,
acres
and
he's
moved
that
recommendation.
For
me.
I'd.
A
Her
plot
to
move
the
staff
recommendations,
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
dy.
Twenty
two
point:
one:
seven
traffic
control
signals,
71-75,
Rexdale,
boulevard,
I'm,
sorry
so
17
since
on
the
agenda,
this
area,
if
this
being
withdrawn,
2276
being
withdrawn,
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
twenty
two
point:
one
eight
always
stop:
control
rustic
road
at
Cornelius,
Parkway,
counselor
to
Giorgio.
D
A
D
A
A
We're
moving
the
alternate
recommendations:
yeah,
okay,
so
council
Georgie
stop
is
moving
the
alternate
recommendations.
You
want
to
record
holder.
Here's
one
recorded
negative
council.
All
in
favor,
okay
recorded
vote
tell
to
the
Georgio
counter
to
set
councillor
Palacio
councillor
to
set
doubly
Mayor
Chris
aunty.
A
I
well,
I'll
start
all
over
again
now
to
the
Georgia
all
captured
a
sec
councillor
plot
co-counsel
done
Giada
WR
krow
Santi,
chair
Grimes,
pulling
support
counter
to
channel
George,
encountered
mammal,
Edie
and
counselor
Ford
opposed
counselor
holiday
and
counselor
Campbell.
That
was
easy:
okay,
ey
22.2
for
traffic
calming
King
George
dry
between
Keele
Street
and
troth,
I,
Drive
and.
G
E
A
A
J
A
A
C
A
K
A
We've
added
that
that
been
adopted
or
just
on
the
agenda.
Okay,
thank
you
vote
and
put
an
agenda.
Thanks,
okay,
we're
going
to
go
to
twenty
two
point:
two
two
point:
two
updates
edition
of
st.
cloud:
new
study,
OPAT
for
144
between
black
floor
and
Avenue,
Spring,
Grove
Avenue
in
Ward's,
1117
counters
plots
are
you
healthy,
am.
E
E
F
F
B
Through
you,
mr.
chair
nrt,
actually
has
well
had
two
appeals
in.
They
had
appealed
OPA
84.
They
had
also
appealed
OPA
144.
They
have
formally
withdrawn
their
appeal
of
OPA
84,
so
the
Official
Plan
policies
that
arose
from
that
Avenue
study
are
in
effect.
What
we
will
be
doing
shortly
when
we
have
an
opportunity,
is
to
bring
the
bylaw
in
that
was
also
approved
with
OPA
84,
because
it
was
held
pending
the
resolution
of
OPA
84.
B
F
B
B
Okay,
are
you
speaking
OPA
one
four
four
and
there
are
no
applications
in
the
area
under
dispute
of
OPA
144?
It's
the
there
was
a.
There
was
a
I
guess.
It
was
have
been
a
pre
them.
It
wasn't
a
mediation
session.
It
was
a
pre-hearing
conference
where
the
lands
east
of
Scarlett
sorry
east
of
Runnymede,
were
released
by
all
parties.
They
focused
the
appeal
on
the
lands
between
Runnymede
and
Kiel,
so
the
three
appellant
they're
being
Corsetti
Maple,
Leaf
and
pauletta
maintain
their
Appeals
for
the
lands
from
running
Meade
to
Kiel
and.
L
B
F
B
F
E
You,
mr.
chairman
and
first
of
all,
first
and
foremost,
I
want
to
thank
mr.
Griffith,
where
they
were
that
took
place
with
you
guys
too
getting
a
resolution
with
regards
to
the
OPA
84
and
now,
with
regards
to
the
OPA
144
that
customer
service,
referring
to
what
are
the
possibilities
of
having
a
working
group
as
we
did
with
the
other
section
or
somewhere
with
with
the
palings
planning
staff,
then
members
of
council,
the
community
I
find,
for
whatever
reason,
that's
extremely
helpful,
to
have
that
kind
of
conversation.
E
B
Through
you,
mr.
chair
again,
we
have
to
careful
what
we
say,
because
the
mediation
session
again
was
without
prejudice.
I
would
suggest
if
looking
over
to
ms
maskavich,
who
was
there
would
be
if
community
council
chose
to
move
a
motion
asking
staff
to
approach
the
appellant
about
their
desire
for
that
kind
of
session.
I
think
that
would
be
appropriate.
Okay,
thank.
E
E
A
A
H
You
I'm
just
going
to
allow
the
clerks
just
a
moment.
I
will
only
make
the
comment
that
I
was
able
just
to
speak
to
the
applicant,
now
have
been
working
with
her
and
some
of
the
neighbors
over
the
last
month
appreciate
counsels
time
and
allowing
me
to
defer
this
item.
I
think
we've
reached
an
amicable
solution
which
seems
to
work
for
everybody,
and
that
is
to
lower
portions
of
the
fence,
which
are
on
race,
I'd
Drive
and
allow
taller
portions
of
the
fence
to
remain
which
are
on
the
back.
H
A
G
C
H
C
G
A
D
A
G
D
A
G
G
So
I'm
going
to
ask
the
support
of
councillors
in
allowing
the
four-way
stop
to
go
in
there,
because
it
really
is
just
a
it's
one
of
those
things
where
people
have
ease
of
mind
simply
because
they
see
the
stop
sign
there
and
90%
of
them
obey
the
stop
sign.
So
I
think
it
will
have
a
positive
effect.
I,
don't
think
it
will
have
a
real
drastic
effect
in
terms
of
affecting
the
overall
flow
of
traffic.
G
B
If
I
draw
your
attention
to
Appendix
A,
if
you
look
at
the
numbers
here,
what
we
look
for
is
two
critical
things
is
enough
volume
to
the
intersection
that
there's
an
expectation
that
motorists
will
have
an
opposing
flow
car
on
the
minor
street
to
stop.
So
when
you
look
at
this
particular
location,
it
doesn't
meet
that
criteria.
B
B
K
B
K
F
So
I'm
on
the
question,
but
councillor
Campbell,
so
your
your
absolute
correct
there
are
some
stop
signs
that
cars
roll
that.
But
if
you
look
at
it
overall,
is
it
not
true
that
that
the
majority
majority
of
motorists,
if
they
see
a
stop
sign
that
they
would
slow
down
and
stop?
There
are
a
few
that
don't
they
roll,
but
it
does
slow
down
traffic
in
a
particular
area
where
there
so
there's
a
lot
of
volume
use.
Is
that
not
correct
yeah.
B
There
is
even
if
it's
warrant
or
unwarranted,
there's
still
a
level
of
compliance.
It
may
not
be
a
full
stop,
but
it's
a
rolling.
What
we're
trying
to
say
here
is
there's
locations
that
work
really
well.
We
have
very
high
compliance
and
it
goes
tend
to
be
the
ones
with
the
good
splits.
As
you
get
away
from
a
good
split
of
traffic,
it
tends
to
be
a
lot
more
rolling
stops.
You.
F
G
When
you
take
a
look
at
that
ratio
of
68
over
32,
it's
two
point
one
to
five
and
the
warrant
requirements
for
the
study
period
average
says
that
if
it's
less
than
70
over
30
ratio,
which
is
two
point
three
three
so
what
I've
got
is
between
three
o'clock
and
four
o'clock:
that's
70
over
30
ratio,
less
than
that
ratio
is
actually
met,
so
that
was
just
a
little
right
of
a
red
flag.
For
me,
I
thought
to
myself.
G
You
know
what
given
and
if
you
look
at
this
map,
where
it
says,
study
location
where
the
actual
word
study
location,
that's
all
parkland
south
of
that's
all
parkland-
that
people
access
and
drive
to,
or
people
walk
to
and
so
to
have
a
four-way
stop.
There
is,
in
my
view,
anyway,
it's
it
has
a
negative
impact,
but
it
has
a
very
positive
impact
when
you
consider
that
it
gives
people
the
impression
that
yeah
cars
may
still
slow
down
so
I'm.
Just
asking
use
your
own
conscious,
if
you
don't
like,
stop
signs
vote
against
it.
G
K
I
will
not
support
this
I
think
that
what
we
do
in
this
city
is
constantly
frustrate.
Drivers
I
had
a
situation
where
a
warranted
stop
sign
was
put
in
in
my
ward
at
Summit
Crest
in
Waterford
and
a
resident
sent
in
a
note
saying
they
were
almost
hit
because
somebody
rolled
through
the
stop
sign
and
in
fact
counselor
for
Dino.
If
he's
going
to
speak
to
it,
had
a
similar
situation
arise
drivers
when
they
get
stopped.
K
What
they're
going
to
do
is
they're
going
to
accelerate
and
they're
going
to
drive
faster,
because
this
slows
it
down
because
they're
not
warranted.
If
we
do
I
mean
my
personal
view,
it's
only
Mike
is
that
is
that
we
do
a
lot
to
frustrate
drivers
and,
as
a
result
that
results
in
more
poor
driver
behavior,
so
putting
in
unwarranted
speed,
humps
unwarranted,
stop
signs
just
continues
to
frustrate
drivers
and
driver
frustration
is
at
an
all-time
high
now
because
of
traffic
congestion
and
all
we're
doing
with
these
sorts
of
measures
making
it
worse.
In
my
view,.
A
H
H
G
Further
speakers,
this
one
final
comment:
if
I
may,
mr.
chairman
again,
is
very
once
you
know
when
and
I'm
not
I'm,
not
overly
overly
supportive
of
putting
stop
signs
in
I'm,
maybe
not
as
bad
as
councillor
Campbell,
but
sometimes
numbers.
Don't
tell
the
true
story.
You
have
to
understand
that
the
poverty
of
this
particular
Road
when
you
take
a
look
at
this
circle,
if
I'm
going
along
rustic
road
towards
Connie,
okay,.
D
G
Is
a
drop
in
elevation,
in
other
words,
there's
a
very
steep
hill
as
soon
as
you
get
through
that
intersection
to
get
towards
the
train
track,
it's
a
steep
hill
and
on
the
right
is
a
park
okay.
So
if
somebody's
travelling
east
along
rustic
and
then
manages
to
go
over
the
hill,
they
automatically
speed
up
simply
because
they're
going
downhill.
Okay
and
I'm
saying
you
know
what,
if
that's
reasonable,
I,
don't
think
anybody
that
goes
on
site
and
take
a
look.
G
The
number
of
cars
that
go
are
going
to
see
the
kind
of
physical
situation
and
understand
what
is
likely
to
happen.
So
you
can't
go
by
the
numbers
alone.
Yes,
staff,
RAC
staff
recommendations.
If
the
numbers
are
more
aren't
warranted,
they're
going
to
say
no
anyway,
because
they
don't
take
into
consideration
other
factors:
I'm,
not
picking
on
staff.
All
I'm
saying
is:
there
are
other
soft
factors,
sometimes
that
need
to
be
taken
into
consideration
in
arriving
a
recommendation
that
I
think
is
reasonable
at
this
particular
location.
F
I'm
going
to
support
the
local
councillor
and
a
stop
sign
and
I
guess
what's
frustrating
for
me
is
that
we
have
some
members
of
council
that
constantly
vote
against
traffic.
You
know
they're
against.
If
we
want
to
put,
we
want
to
reduce
the
speed
limit
to
30
they're
against.
If
we
want
speed,
humps
are
against.
If
we
want
to
stop
sign
they're
against
it,
it's
like
you
know
it
it
would.
F
You
know,
I
understand
the
topic
or
maybe
they
don't
have
that
much
traffic
I,
don't
know.
Maybe
people
don't
drive
their
cars,
I
don't
know,
but
in
our
area
like
The
Wizard
of
counter
Gazette
counter
DiGiorgio
Palacio,
my
we
have
a
severe
problem
with
traffic
and
we
do
our
best
to
get
traffic
us
some
sort
of
traffic,
calming
30,
K
you're
against
30
K
you're
against
anything
that
we
try
to
do
to
slow
down
traffic
and
so
I
will
support
the
stops.
F
I'm,
because
you
know
the
counselor
knows
his
ward
and
that
residents
are
requesting
it
and
that
whatever
we
can
do
to
slow
down
traffic
in
a
community
where
there's
a
park
or
a
lot
of
pedestrians.
I
believe
that
we
should
do
that
and
not
look
at
the
stats,
because
you
know
I,
don't
blame
the
staff
work
because
they
have
certain
criteria
and
they
go
by
their
criteria.
But
unfortunately
we
know
the
constituents
because,
actually
you
know
we
live
it
and
we
listen
to
our
constituents,
unlike
Etobicoke,
where
they
don't.
Okay,.
I
A
A
A
G
Chairman
I
just
want
to
reiterate
a
comment
that
most
of
us
have
been
very
well
aware
of
when,
when
we
got
three
situations
and
four
I
believe
that
we
should
alter
our
procedures
on
dealing
with
these
trees
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
if
the
recommendation
of
staff
is
that
the
tree
is
healthy,
then
there's
no
reason
why
we
should
have
to
hear
the
deputations,
because
we
can't
change
the
position
of
staff.
It
goes
downtown.
It
never
gets
a
return.
G
So
all
I'm
saying
is:
why
bother
go
through
the
hearings
when
we
know
what
the
ultimate
outcome
is?
It's
unfair
to
the
people
that
come
here
thinking
that
they
will
get
a
decision,
that
is
that
they
have
a
chance,
is
favorable
to
them.
Now,
I
realize
that
this
is
happens
to
be
maybe
a
change
in
policy.
I
realize
I
see
councillor
Campbell,
you
know
fidgeting
here
he
saying
you
know
what
well
it's
not
an
opinion.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
okay.
A
So
if
I
may,
we've
already
discussed
this
here
a
couple
meetings
ago
as
they're
reviewing
it
downtown
and
we
do
tell
the
people
every
individual
counselor
tells
the
people
and
they
do
come
forward.
The
chance
of
this
passing
downtown
and
next
said,
but
still
they're
right
to
bring
this
forward
and
be
heard
at
this
council,
and
then
we
tell
them
the
one
that
goes
downtown
chances
are
them,
but
we're
asking
that
to
be
reviewed,
downtown
and
countered
channels
here
and
tell
you
the
same
thing
we're
asking
for
that
to
be
reviewed.
A
A
G
A
C
C
Further
study
last
month
we
had
an
email
from
the
owner
of
the
tree
and
she
indicated
in
the
email
Ison.
She
had
not
indicated
to
forestry
when
she
had
first
appealed
to
have
the
tree
removed.
She
needs
to
dig
around
her
basement.
Do
major
work
on
her
basement
and
therefore
there
is
a
clause
in
the
private
tree
bylaw
which
allows
people
to
take
down
a
tree
if
they
have
to
dig
around
their
basement,
because
the
contractor
will
not
do
the
digging
around
the
basement.
C
If
there's
a
tree
there,
because
it's
dangerous
for
the
workers,
so
I'm
referring
this
back
to
forestry,
she
is
reapplying
and
they
will
deal
with
it
if
they
see
fit
that
she
should
have
a
tree
removed
because
of
the
construction
work.
She's
doing
it
will
not
come
back
here
if
they
feel
it's
not
fit,
it
will
come
back
here.
H
A
B
H
A
C
One
thing
I
find
about
our
reports.
Our
reports
are
good,
but
all
the
color,
all
the
pictures
come
in
black
and
white.
You
cannot
judge
a
tree
in
black
and
white.
You've
got
to
either
look
at
it,
drive
by
google
it
or
look
at
it
in
color.
It
really
does
show
the
tree
and
I
have
supported.
It
is
a
big
tree,
but
I
kind
of
differ
with
the
local
council,
but
it
takes
up
their
whole
backyard.
It
seems
they
have
a
pretty
big
backyard.
C
So
yes,
it's
a
big
tree.
Yes,
yes,
it's
a
healthy
tree.
I
do
understand
their
concerns,
but
I
think
with
some
pruning
yeah
no
I
actually
have
my
I
actually
get
my
reports
printed
in
color
deliberately
for
the
trees
and
I
also
do
Google
Street.
So
thank
you
very
much
so
because
I
don't
feel
it
does
take
over
their
whole
yard
and
I
feel
with
some
pruning
they
can
accomplish.
What
they
need
to
accomplish
that
doesn't
interfere
with
neighbors
I
will
be
not
supporting,
remove
all
the
healthy
trees.
A
L
You
and
thank
you
in
a
dancer
for
letting
me
speak
in
front
of
you
all,
and
especially
a
special
thanks
to
mr.
Giorgio.
After
the
last
comments
that
were
made
there
I
appreciate
you
guys
listening
to
me,
it
makes
me
feel
good
I,
don't
think
I'd
be
able
to
feel
comfortable
myself
if
I
didn't
do
everything
in
my
power
to
get
rid
of
these
trees.
On
my
front
property,
we
bought
our
house
in
February
of
2015,
knowing
that
there
was
two
beautiful
black
walnut
trees
on
the
front
property.
L
L
Didn't
get
to
that
point
that
would
have
looked
really
bad
I'm,
not
looking
for
for
sympathy
here,
I'm
looking
for
a
quick
resolution,
I'm
looking
for
the
city
to
say,
okay,
you
know
what
there's
a
safety
issue
here
in
not
one
spot
in
the
report
that
was
produced
by
the
city
I
by
the
way
max
great
guy
great
to
deal
with,
but
not
one
issue,
not
one
safety
concern
and
the
report
was
actually
mentioned.
So,
yes,
he
says
you
can
prune.
You
can
do
this.
You
can
do
that.
But
what
about
the
safety
issue?
L
L
My
daughters
are
afraid
to
combine
oldest
daughters,
three
she's
afraid
to
walk
out
of
the
front
door
when
these
walnuts
are
falling
in
September,
October
November,
it's
scary,
guys
we're
afraid
to
go
outside
the
trees
are
hanging
over
my
house
they're
hanging
over
my
front
door,
my
driveway
and
the
sidewalk
that
goes
in
front
of
my
house.
I
strongly
asked
the
city
to
reconsider
and
please
let
me
get
rid
of
these
trees.
I
want
to
replant
I
love,
trees,
I
love,
trees,
please
let
me
get
rid
of
these
trees.
That's
why
I
think
it's
important.
L
A
G
To
clarify
I,
don't
have
a
problem
and
you're
coming
forward
and
speaking
what
I'm
saying
is
the
criteria?
Do
you
realize
that
the
criteria
that
we
have
to
use
in
making
our
decision
is
only
whether
the
tree
is
healthy
or
not?
It's
got
nothing
to
do
with
safety.
We
unfortunately
I'm,
not
that
I
disagree
with
you,
but
that
is
the
criteria
we
have
to
use
and
base
our
decision
on.
Is
it
a
healthy
tree
and
what
I'm
saying
to
you
I'm
seen
if
the
tree
is
healthy?
Why
do
we
listen
to
people
if
they?
L
G
You
I'm
on
your
side.
What
I'm
saying
is
this
body
sitting
here
is
supposed
to
disregard
safety,
they're
supposed
to
look
at
the
safety
of
the
tree
health
as
the
only
criteria,
and
that's
what
I'm
opposed
to
I'm
saying.
We
should
listen
to
the
health
issues.
We
should
listen
to
the
safety
issues,
good.
G
L
I
misunderstood
you
and
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
simply
hoping
my
concerns.
My
safety
concerns
are
relayed
onto
the
city
or
whether
it
gets
passed
here
or
not.
I,
don't
know
the
process.
I've
never
done
this
before
we're
sound
down.
Okay,
well,
I
hope
they
can
hear
me
me,
speak
I
hope
they
can
hear
me
talk
about
my
safety
issues.
It's
it's
a
concern.
It's
not
two
months
of
the
year
when
these
walnuts
are
falling,
it's
not
a
comfortable
life.
It's
a
scary
life
going
outside.
It's
not
the
way
to
live.
H
H
H
L
H
L
F
So
so
it's
unfortunate,
though,
that
city
staff
don't
look
at
safety,
okay
and
and
even
if
we
support
it-
and
it
was
mentioned
by
the
members
which
we
probably
will
at
community
council,
because
we
always
do
that-
it
gets
folded
down
at
Toronto
Council
and
there's
always
a
debate
and
always
gets
folded
down.
So
as
far
as
the,
what
did
you
call
them?
Acorn
tennis.
F
F
L
A
A
Thank
you
for
coming
forward,
and
this
is
a
classic
I,
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
mr.
Gibbins
before
and
said.
This
will
go
downtown
the
chance
of
succeeding
but
I'm
going
to
show
the
deputation.
If
we
can
on
the
screen.
Here's
a
gentleman
coming
forward
pleading
for
safety
with
his
kids.
Now
I
can
tell
you
firsthand
I
had
a
black
walnut
I
lived
at
66,
even
Street
before
I
sold
that
house,
and
he
is
right,
I
have
five
kids,
the
kids
would
not
go
in
the
backyard.
A
These
things
come
down
like
bombs,
they're
having
the
same
color
as
a
tennis
ball,
and
they
come
down
and
I'll
tell
ya.
They
would
bounce
off
the
umbrella
go
they'd
fly
back
up,
it
was
a
gong
show.
This
tree
is
is
ridiculous
and
it
is
dangerous.
I
believe
that
that
kid
is
real
kid
on
the
head,
I'm
telling
ya
as
a
trip
to
the
hospital
could
be
more.
They
come
down
hard
and
these
are
big
trees.
I
know
max
is
doing
his
job.
A
A
It's
not
in
the
report
and
I'm
tying
I,
though
first
hand
having
one
these
at
a
time
when
we
sold
the
house
and
I
shouldn't
say
this,
but
when
we
sold
the
house
we
put
the
sign
on
the
front
of
the
agent
would
call
and
say:
there's
people
come
to
look
well
all
five
people
world
all
my
kids,
my
why
we
have
their
sweeping
sweeping
hide
knows
not
to
put
them
in
the
garbage
and
get
rid
of
the
side
of
the
house.
We
don't
people
know
there
was
a
black
walnut.
A
K
K
M
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
the
idea
they
prune
the
tree,
they
cut
back
the
crown
there
are
less
fruits
for
the
use
in
the
ground.
So
will
you
know,
will
have
less
those
walnuts
coming
down,
but
the
walnut
I'd
still
come
down.
A
couple
of
them
plus,
what's
happened
on
the
side
is
that
the
owner
did
prune
the
branches
doors
to
the
house,
which
is
good
and
his
pruning
is
correct.
M
K
M
There
will
be
will
not
that
we
cannot
stop
that.
The
problem
is
that
they're,
looking
at
the
balance
here
to
keep
the
tree
or
remove
the
tree,
which
is
in
the
vial
all
right
and
clearly
the
bylaw
says
that
if
we
appeal
come
to
complete
counsel
as
other
counselors
discussing
it
then
have
a
right
to
say.
You
know
what
this
is
not
in
the
bylaw.
It's
not
mechanism
in
the
bylaw
to
support
for
this
healthy
issues.
M
In
this
case,
then,
maybe
City
Council
decide
to
support
the
removal
of
the
tree
oak
and
direct
the
general
manager
to
issue
the
permit.
So
we
have
no
mechanism
in
this
case
nothing
wrong
with
the
owner.
He
has
been
cooperating.
We
try
to
advise
them.
What
how
much
you
can
do
I
attended
aside
myself
last
week
just
to
have
another
look,
the
trees
might
enable
still
is,
might
and
I
will
have
a
lot
of
black
walnut
trees,
internal
that
city
or
staff
cannot
make
that
decision
to
remove
all
of
black
walnut
trees.
M
M
K
M
M
So
that's
the
thing
that
there
would
be,
as
you
said,
will
be,
will
not
in
the
in
the
ground
for
sure
less
in
the
driveway
and
the
sidewalk
if
he
prune
properly,
if
you
harder
to
divide
arborist
to
do
that
and
have
the
goal
to
reduce
the
crown
of
the
tree,
but
that
is
up
to
the
property
owner.
If
you
take
that,
you
know
the
decision
and
do
it
or
not,
he
wants
to
appeal.
So
it's
his
right
to
go
to
City
Council.
Okay,
that's
my
questions
for
sure.
K
A
Further
questions
seeing
on
max
I
have
one
on
over
three
you
can
answer
is
not,
but
this
gentleman's
babies,
three
months
old,
so
probably
by
the
fall,
probably
good
chance
when
you're
starting
to
walk-
and
you
know
these
nuts,
you
would
consider
that
danger.
If
one
of
those
nuts
did
a
nine-month-old
in
the
head.
A
M
Is
danger
for
the
walnuts?
Yes,
it
is,
but
to
each
degree,
as
I
said
before,
as
property
owner
he's
going
to
keep
that
balance
and
take
the
risk,
maybe
and
keep
the
tree
or
he
doesn't
want
to
deal
with
that
because
he's
he
scared
about
the
kids
and
stuff.
So
he
wants
to
remove
the
tree.
I
think
it's
mine,
too
novel
situation.
M
He
can
do
that
if
you
want
to
reduce
the
crown
plus,
he
has
an
option
if
he
wants
to
go
through
it,
if
the
tree
declines,
let's
say
a
year
or
next
season,
that
whatever
all
knots
come
in
the
ground
will
be
two
weeks
or
one
week,
which
will
be
dangerous
situation
not
all
over
the
year.
So
if
the
tree
declines,
then
we
have
opportunity
to
deal
with
him
and
help
him
out
to
remove
the
trees
okay,
but
for
now
in
this
situation
we
cannot
help
you,
okay,.
A
No,
that's
lisaknott
was
appreciate
for
your
okay,
so
I
want
to
can
I
finish
mine,
so
I'm.
My
motion
on
the
screen,
City
Council,
request
the
permit
rule
to
tree
private
trees,
25
teams
down
with
a
condition
that
Otto
fried
ten
replacement
trees
which
may
achieve
the
columns
of
on-site
planting
in
cash
in
lieu
of
planting.
So
this
stone
said
all
plan
is
many
Juwan
I
asked
him.
He
said
I
will
do
ten
five
and
five
for
each
tree.
Satisfaction.
A
We've
asked
from
counsel
will
come
sooner
that
we
can
keep
these
tree
issues
here
at
community
council
said
it
going
downtown
some
of
living
in
Scarborough
didn't
have
the
chance
to
listen.
Mr.
Gibbins
talking
to
do
is
deputation
I
think
it's
ridiculous
that
we
sit
here
and
we
spent
hours
on
on
these
tree
requests
coming
forward,
and
then
we
go
downtown
and
without
even
debate
at
11
o'clock
at
night
8:30
it
just
gets
blown
the
door,
which
is
ridiculous.
G
Quickly,
I
I
certainly
appreciate
the
the
speaker.
I
appreciate
your
strong
feelings
and
I
say
to
you
that
if
this
fails
the
council-
and
we
have
to
take
a
serious,
serious
look,
not
only
at
the
recommendation
council
comes
back
with,
but
really
take
a
serious
look
at
this
whole
issue,
because
in
a
situation
like
this
I
can
see
somebody
downtown
saying:
what's
the
problem
by
the
way
I'm
not
attacking
staff.
I
know
staff
is
constrained
by
what
they
can
do.
Somebody
downtown
is
going
to
say
a
nine-month-old.
You
know,
we've
got
these
hockey
helmets.
G
C
Did
I
asked
for
a
report
at
parks,
an
environment
around
black
walnut
trees,
because
I
know
that
if
you
don't
prune
a
black
walnut
tree
carefully,
it
actually
encourages
it
to
produce
more
fruit.
I
also
have
friends
who
have
black
walnut
trees
in
their
gardens
and
they
do
have
to
sit
under
umbrellas.
C
C
C
C
So
you
know
I,
don't
normally
go
against
staff
recommendation,
but
I
know
staff
are
working
within
their
criteria
and
we
do
have
a
good
private
tree
by
law.
But
this
is
a
case
where
we
do
have
to
look
at
safety.
We
do
have
to
look
at
the
community.
I
appreciate
the
replacement,
because
these
are
two
beautiful
canopy
trees.
C
A
fifty
year
old
tree
which
helps
clean
our
air
make
sure
your
air
conditioner
doesn't
run
as
much
increases
your
property
value,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
some
of
these
trees
can
go
onto
your
property
I'm,
hoping
that
the
style
of
tree
you
are
selecting
with
forest
trees.
Help
has
no
fruit
of
any
description
of
any
kind.
C
So
I
will
be
supporting
this
one
I
know
some
people
will
be
surprised,
but
this
is
a
safety
issue
and
I
feel
that
staff
do
have
their
hands
tied
with
our
bylaw,
but
this
person
cannot
even
get
out
of
their
property
and
it
takes
out
the
whole
front
yard
stunning
trees,
but
I'd
be
very,
very
concerned.
If
you
pruned
them,
it
may
encourage
more
fruit.
So
that's
my
Thank.
A
You
Cal
juicer
so
see
no
further
speakers
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
recorded
vote
on
my
motion
on
the
screen.
All
in
favor
counter
DiGiorgio
council
Doucet,
councillor,
Platteville,
council,
Annunziata,
deputy
Erica,
Santee
counselor,
Grimes,
councillor
holiday,
councillor,
Campbell,
Council,
Ford,
that's
unanimous!
That
passes.
A
D
N
Thank
you,
I
I
represent
the
owners
of
three
dirty
streets.
I
am
here
again
to
support
the
staff
recommendation
to
deny
the
appeal
to
clarify
there
were
a
few
committee
of
adjustment
hearing
dates.
The
first
hearing
was
on
the
13th
of
August
2015,
and
the
last
committee
of
adjustment
hearing
was
on
the
21st
of
July
2016
I
attended
the
first
hearing
date
in
2015.
Please
accept
my
apology
for
the
error
in
my
presentation
at
the
previous
meeting.
N
A
second
hearing
was
originally
scheduled
on
the
31st
of
March
2016,
but
it
was
postponed
due
to
the
vandalism
at
the
Etobicoke
york
planning
offices.
The
rescheduled
date
was
July
21st
2016.
However,
the
family
was
on
vacation
and
did
not
receive
this
notice
until
they
returned
the
day
before
the
hearing
date.
Also,
the
property
was
listed
for
sale
at
that
time
and
we,
the
family
and
community,
considered
the
matter
would
not
proceed
well.
Sale
was
pending.
It
is
unfortunate
if
our
interpretation
was
incorrect.
N
N
Temporary
approval
was
granted
subject
to
multiple
conditions
that
would
be
imposed
by
forestry
and
transportation
services
to
the
best
of
our
knowledge.
None
of
these
conditions
have
been
fulfilled
and
no
approval
was
granted
to
construct
any
parking
pad.
However,
at
the
April
20
17
Etobicoke
york
council
meeting
the
owner
of
seven
dairy,
allegedly
displayed
a
certificate
letter
approving
a
parking
pad
and,
if
I
recall
correctly,
the
date
of
that
letter
was
April
2016.
N
Well,
we
appreciate
the
attempt
by
the
owner
and
the
developer
to
remove
some
of
the
Earth's
smothering
the
black
locust
tree
trunk
on
April
4th
after
the
topic
of
council
meeting
and
during
this
past
weekend,
I'm
sure,
if
my
neighbor
Mary
at
number
9
was
here,
she
would
tell
you
it
isn't
enough.
She
also
shared
that
forestry
visited
the
property
and
further
remedial
actions
are
pending
under
the
guidance
of
the
owners.
Arborist.
N
Perhaps
forestry
should
confirm
these
actions
are
appropriate
to
ensure
the
city's
tree
survives
and
thrives.
I
also
had
an
opportunity
to
measure
the
space
between
the
existing
curb
cut
at
number
5
and
approximately,
where
the
curb
cut
would
be
at
number
7.
It's
approximately
28
feet
then
conferred
with
neighbors
to
determine
that
a
small
car
may
be
able
to
park
on
the
street.
Therefore,
only
one
parking
space
would
be
lost,
not
two,
as
I
had
initially
reported
at
the
April
meeting.
N
The
parking
pad
construction
remains
a
concern
because
it
will
require
drilling
at
least
four
load-bearing
posts
into
the
tree
roots.
To
support
the
structure
and
neighborhoods
advised
is
that
the
owner
already
has
approval
to
create
an
elevated
walkway
from
the
sidewalk
to
the
front
door
and
intends
to
use
the
same
design
with
supporting
posts
drilled
into
the
tree
roots.
Please
don't
exacerbate
the
damage
by
granting
approval
for
the
parking
pad
as
well.
N
H
F
F
H
O
I
have
learned
that
this
was
not
the
place
for
it
and
we
have
since
taken
steps
to
express
our
concerns
through
the
appropriate
channels,
again.
I'm,
sorry
about
that,
I'd
like
to
start
discussing
some
of
the
facts
of
the
case
and
then
address
why
I
require
a
parking
pad
and
then
offer
a
solution
that
would
be
win-win
for
everyone
as
I
understand
there.
A
few
concerns
with
granting
this
parking
pad.
One
is
the
concern
for
the
health
of
the
tree
and
two
is
the
loss
of
one
parking
spot
from
the
street.
O
A
couple
a
couple
of
my
neighbors
did
express
a
concern
for
the
tree.
At
the
last
meeting,
there's
been
a
very
tough
site
to
work
on,
unfortunately,
which
led
it
led
to
a
minor
violation
of
the
tree
protection
zone.
I'm,
sincerely
sorry
for
this
prior
to
commencing
work,
we
had
laid
down
mulch
and
then
plywood
on
top
of
the
natural
grade,
so
not
to
disturb
the
tree.
A
new
arborist
report
has
been
recently
conducted
and
determined
that
no
harm
was
done
to
the
tree.
O
The
discrepancy
with
forestry
has
since
been
cleared
up,
and
they
are
ok
with
the
parking
pad
application
and
design
to
further
demonstrate
our
care
and
express
our
apology.
Regardless
of
your
decision
today,
I
would
like
to
offer
cash
in
lieu
for
the
city
to
plant
an
additional
tree
as
they
see
fit.
O
With
regards
to
the
polling
results,
we
took
the
time
to
send
out
our
own
letters
properly,
explaining
our
plan
and
asking
dairy
residents
if
they
would
support
the
parking
pad.
We
received
18
letters
signed
back,
confirming
their
approval.
Some
of
these
neighbors
were
ones
originally
rejected
it
because
of
their
concern
for
the
tree.
O
A
discussion
with
neighbors
and
properly
explaining
our
helical
parking
pad
design
confirms
that
many
more
neighbors
would
now
be
for
the
parking
pad
as
less
cars
on
the
street
would
reduce
Street,
Street
congestion,
improved
garbage
and
snow
removal
and
improved
safety
for
all
families.
Hñ
approvals
outweighs
a
17
against
individual
poll
results
with
regards
to
the
loss
of
one
one
on
street
parking
spot
more
than
90.
O
By
the
way
I
have
the
letters
here
signed
and
a
sample
of
the
letter
that
was
sent
out
with
regards
to
loss
of
one
on
street
parking
spot
more
than
90%
of
homes
on
this
street
have
a
driveway
parking
pad
and/or
garage.
There
are
21
free
street
parking
spots
currently
available.
There
are
5
legal
parking
pads
already
approved
by
the
cities
precedents.
If
I
took
my
car
off
the
street
and
place
it
on
a
proposed
parking
pad,
there
would
still
be
21
free
spots
more
than
enough
for
neighbors.
O
Second
third
and
guest
vehicles,
as
you
can
imagine,
snow,
does
not
get
clear
clean
properly
from
the
sides
of
the
street
when
cars
are
parked
all
day.
I
have
an
elderly
mother
who
lives
with
me
who
would
have
to
walk
over
snow
banks
to
get
to
our
front
door.
I
also
have
an
electric
I'll
also
have
an
electric
vehicle
that
I
would
not
know
how
to
charge
from
the
side
of
the
street
when
I
purchased
this
home,
the
previous
owner
had
already
gone
to
community
adjustments
received
approval
for
the
parking
pad
design.
O
The
parking
pad
design
had
already
been
cleared
by
forestry
and
when
I
made
calls
to
transportation
prior
to
purchasing
the
home,
the
outlook
on
the
parking
pad
approval
seemed
positive.
I
cannot
live
in
this
home
without
a
parking
pad.
If
rejected
I'll
be
forced
to
sell
it,
and
I
will
incur
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
expenses
and
losses.
O
We
have
discussed
with
our
neighbors
next
door,
neighbor,
who
also
does
not
have
a
parking
pad
who
is
very
concerned
about
the
consent
of
the
tree,
but
she
has
confirmed
that
if
there's
no
damage
to
the
tree
that
they
are
on
board
to
do
a
joint
parking
pad
our
neighbors
here
today
and
can
speak
to
that
as
well.
This
solution
would
women
with
two
cars
off
the
street,
while
removing
only
one
street
parking
from
our
discussion
with
neighbors.
This
is
something
that
neighbors
would
be
highly
in
favor
of.
O
However,
this
would
require
deferral
of
our
application
until
our
neighbors
has
the
opportunity
file
an
application
as
well.
Ultimately,
where
is
working
hard
to
come
up
with
a
solution
to
benefit
everyone?
The
ideal
scenario
here
is
that
we
defer
until
after
the
summer,
so
we
can
submit
a
mutual
Drive
application.
O
F
I'm
just
trying
to
recall
the
history,
so
you
bought
up
the
house.
There
was
a
committee
of
adjustment
application
right,
but
you
purchased
it
from
from
the
individuals
that
went
to
the
committee
of
adjustment.
You
didn't
go
to
the
committee
of
adjournment
right
and
the
committee
of
adjustment
application
was
to
build
a
new
home
first,
okay
and
that
application
included
and
the
approval
of
that
application
included
a
frame
yard
parking
pad
and
that's
what
the
committee
well
supported.
F
O
H
H
O
O
O
So
that
the
green
bush
area
that
you
see
so
our
parking
pad
was
was
proposed
all
the
way
to
the
left
of
the
property.
If
you're
looking
at
the
property
yep,
they
have
an
area
that
they
put
bushes
down,
that
that
I
think
originally
they
planned
on
actually
applying
for
parking
as
well,
so
potentially
combining
okay.
O
O
H
O
K
O
O
K
O
It
didn't
really
give
us
the
opportunity
to
address
any
concerns
in
the
neighbor.
We
were
not
aware
of
the
poll
William,
we
didn't
vote
ourselves,
we
didn't
see
it,
but
again
it
was
17
against
12.
So
if
there's
even
three
people
that
were
you
know
one
way
or
the
other
that
would
that
would
drastically
change
you.
You
know
you.
K
O
F
J
F
Why
is
the
committee
of
adjustment
who
could
answer
this
question
approving
these
applications
for
front
yard
parking
pad
without
getting
comments
from
transportation,
because
that
may
be
I
my
opinion?
It's
not
fair
to
thee
to
the
applicant
that
goes
through
this
whole
process
and
spends
all
this
money
and
then
finds
out
later.
That
transportation
has
refused.
Is
it.
B
If
there's
no
parking
spaces
and
speak
to
a
parking
pad,
but
it
approves
it's
subject
to
a
number
of
conditions
and
the
first
condition
is
about
application
for
permit
to
destroy
or
injure
a
tree
or
guarantee
that
the
tree
will
survive
through
a
number
of
protection
measures.
So
what
happens?
Is
forestry
staff
will
get
the
minor
variants?
Application
will
put
this
condition
forward.
B
There's
also
a
section
of
conditions
that
we're
obviously
put
forward
by
traffic
planning
right
away
management
staff
about
the
applicant
required
to
obtain
approval
of
the
proposed
frontier
park
is
bed
from
the
up
street,
permit
parking
section
and
then
it
says,
shall
be
restricted
to
a
minimum
width
and
length
constructed
of
interlocking
stone,
etc,
etc,
set
suits.
So
there
are
a
whole
series
of
conditions
are
which
the
parking
pad
has
to
comply.
So
the
committee
on
the
basis
of
that
information,
says
effectively.
B
J
M
Mr.
chair,
no,
not
yet
not
yet
what's
happened
is
just
a
short
stories
that
the
applicant
provided
last
time
in
the
community
council.
The
clearance
letter
that
was
issued
to
the
previous
owner
of
this
property
related
to
the
committee
of
adjustment
application
that
time.
So
the
clearance
letter
was
issued
conditional
to
protect
the
tree
and
provide
the
tree
protection
plan
and
showing
the
holding
of
the
tree
the
applicant
that
the
new
owner
did
jump
the
gun
and
it
did
have
a
violation
of
the
tree
by
law.
M
In
that
time
he
never
had
a
permit
to
injure
the
tree
lately
after
the
last
committee
counsel
April,
he
provided
the
documentation
from
the
previous
owner.
He
is
cooperating
with
our
office
to
show
the
drawings
and
how
he's
building
the
parking
pad
looks
like
it
is
a
workable
solution,
but
still
is
not
approved
by
forest.
This
is
our
position
for
today,
right.
F
M
G
My
question
is
a
transportation
I
think
I
just
want
to
sort
of
understand
the
the
nature
of
this
area.
It
says
that
in
this
particular
block
there
are
61
spaces
that
people
could
have
quality'
ply
for
a
parking
permit,
but
only
38
of
the
61
spaces
have
been
allocated
a
parking
permit.
So
my
question
is:
is
there
excess
parking
on
the
street
there.
G
J
E
Mr.
leader,
in
this
follow-up
question,
to
cancel
no
Sierras
in
terms
of
the
tree,
I
think
that
we
have
healthy
three
there
now,
even
if
a
condition
was
being
put
forward
that
no
mechanical
excavation
be
allowed
within
the
tree
protection
zone.
That
may
damage
the
root
system
of
the
tree
and
for
any
work
to
be
done
to
be
done
in
consultation
into
the
satisfaction
of
your
division.
E
M
Think
so,
yes,
that
will
be
just
for
information
that
will
burn.
First
will
hold
the
tree
protection
guarantee
for
this
tree,
so
they
would
be
run.
They
will
credit
yes
and
we
will
approve
found
it
later
if
everything
goes
according
to
the
tree
protection
plan
on
the
file
plus,
the
applicant
should
be
required
from
us
from
our
forestry
to
provide
detailed
information.
How
much
this
parking
pad
is
going
to
injure
the
tree.
If
that
is
acceptable,
he
is
proposing
the
parking
pattern,
peers
and
terminal
staff.
M
So
that's
it's
acceptable,
plus
one
more
thing:
the
applicant
is
required
to
comply
with
all
the
requirements
in
order
to
comply
regarding
the
valuation
of
the
tree
below
which
he
started
to
do
that,
but
still
it's
not
acceptable.
After
all
of
these
things
done,
maybe
you
learn
first,
it
will
be
ready
to
issue
the
permit
to
injure
the
tree.
So
to
answer
your
question,
yes
thank.
F
E
N
H
H
Try
to
self-regulate
my
time
here,
I'm
max,
there's
something
new
here
that
I
hadn't
seen
before,
which
is
peers
as
a
parking
pad,
is
the
type
of
parking
pad
solution
proposed
like
this
peer
technology.
Is
that
important
to
the
discussion
right
now
or
are
typically
parking
pad
with
permeable
pavers
allowed?
In
these
circumstances,
it.
M
H
M
Helical
gears
that
he
is
proposing
are
acceptable
as
a
technology,
but
the
arborist
base.
An
arborist
report
is
going
to
be
on
site
and
postponed.
The
peers
do
that.
You
know
they
lied
the
roots
by
hand
or
hydro
vac
and
make
sure
where
they
going
to
put
those
piers.
Oh,
this
is
helping
a
lot
with
the
very
structure
roots
of
the
tree
to
protect
during
the
installation
of
the
parking
pad
is.
M
H
One
of
the
statements
by
the
the
resident
was
that
the
deletion
or
the
installation
of
the
ramp
would
still
result
in
21
parking
spaces
on
the
street.
I
just
want
to
be
clear,
I,
don't
know
the
street
that
well
how
many
parking
spaces
are
there
today
and
how
many
parking
spaces
will
be
preserved
once
the
ramp
is
installed
as
proposed.
H
J
H
H
J
H
Also
seems
to
be
some
concern
about
the
the
completeness
of
the
analysis
on
the
trees
and
the
tree.
Injury
is
there
and
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
owner
has
come
and
talked
to
us
and
said
you
know,
he's
gone
around
now
that
there
is
a
change
in
the
way
that
the
tree
is
being
handled.
That
really
affects
that.
Maybe
the
sentiments
of
the
neighbor,
so
we've
got
really
a
different
file
before
us.
Is
there
a
mechanism
or
a
route
that
this
thing
may
be
referred
or
reconsidered,
or
reopened
or
reese
reap
old?
H
J
Have
had
circumstances
where
there's
been
discrepancies
with
or
not
discrepancies,
but
where
the
property
owners
were
not
aware
of
the
poll
and
they
weren't
able
to
go
around
getting
or
speaking
to
the
neighbors
about
their
proposal,
not
in
the
past
believe
we
did
one
or
two
repol.
Some
certain
areas
subject
to
recommendation
from
a
community
council
do.
H
H
H
One
of
the
other
statements
by
the
the
owner
is
that
you're
expected
that
he
is
expecting
the
neighbor
to
submit
an
application
for
a
parking
pad
on
their
property,
which
is
adjacent.
Does
the
decision
today
in
any
way
affect
the
eligibility
of
that
neighbors
parking
buy
proposal?
So
I
would
put
to
you
if
a
ramp
is
established
today
by
deleting
a
parking
space,
the
fact
that
they
may
not
need
a
ramp
may
validate
their
ability
to
get
a
parking
space.
If
there's
no
other
conditions
that
would
withhold
it.
It.
J
J
H
F
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
move
the
alternate
recommendations
and
I've
added
one
recommendation,
eight
on
on
that
as
well
number
one
yeah,
so
you
know,
we've
approved
bring
our
parking
pets
here
we
do.
We
do
all
the
time
where
even
the
the
the
discussion
councillor
holiday
you
mentioned
about
eliminating
one
parking
space
on
the
street.
We
do
that
all
the
time
they
all
get
approved.
F
E
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I'm,
going
to
for
the
same
the
alternate
recommendations
and
I
think
the
key
is
recommendation
that
council
organ
Sierra
is
moving.
Is
that
non-mechanical
Commission
be
allowed
within
the
tree
protection
zone
that
may
damage
the
root
system
of
the
tree
and,
furthermore,
that
any
work
be
done
in
consultation
with
the
subscribe
to
the
satisfaction
of
a
director
of
era,
forestry
and
I
think
that
in
itself
will
assure
that
the
tree
will
survive
an
automation
that
a
little
clay
would
be
in
place
as
well.
E
That
translates
into
the
food
market
value
of
the
tree
now
with
regards
to
them
to
the
parking
provisions
in
terms
of
zoning,
as
we
all
know
that
and
parkings
supposed
to
be
provided
on-site
and
at
least
within
the
promisee
york.
That's
one
of
the
conditions
that
usually
goes
through.
The
committee
of
adjustment
and
the
committee,
which
has
been
open,
approves
those
applications
to
allow
for
new
parking,
and
that's
one.
E
That's
something
that
I
happen
to
know
and
I'm
very
familiar
with,
because
I
I've
been
going
through
all
the
time
and
very
often
I,
don't
agree
with
it.
But
the
recent
process
and
when
people
are
following
the
process
and
they
walk
through
it,
tremendous
expenses-
you
know
through
the
committee
and
that's
a
tool
and
then
it
seems
like
they
are
not
literally
breaking
the
law.
They
are
asking
all
those
provisions
to
be
approved
in
terms
of
expertise
within
the
committee
of
adjustment.
E
We
have
experts
in
transportations
that
they
were
former
employees
on
cereal,
trono,
great
members
of
the
committee.
We
transmit
that
they
have
a
full
understanding
what's
before
them
and
I
do
trust
their
judgment
as
well.
So,
for
those
reasons
alone,
I
think
that
this
application
made
the
support
of
it
in
terms
of
the
polling.
I,
don't
I,
don't
actually
trust
information
that
we
use
that
comes
from
impact
is
the
informations.
E
Very
antiquated,
is
all
the
information
that
usually
series
that
or
City
Hall
doesn't
have
updated
information
on
that,
and
very
often
you
have
a
large
number
of
ballots
returned
because
it
was
saying
to
the
wrong
people.
So,
for
those
reasons,
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
be
consistent
terms
of
as
of
2013
applications
in
the
welding
lab
proofs.
For
these
recommendations,
with
the
other
recommendation
to
protect
the
three.
I
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I'm,
just
going
to
speak
very
briefly
on
this.
As
the
applicant
said
in
his
education
I,
did
they
didn't
reach
out
to
my
office?
I
did
go
and
pay
them
a
visit
for
about
20
minutes
the
other
day,
of
course,
in
the
absence
of
a
counselor
I
thought
it'd
only
be
fair
that
they
have
an
opinion
or
have
someone
to
understand
what
they
are
going
through.
So
when
I
visited
the
site
I
know,
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
have
mentioned
along
are
many
of
reasons
why
they
will
be
supporting
this.
I
I
too,
will
be
supporting
it,
but
one
of
the
things
that
stuck
out
with
me
when
visiting
on
site
is
the
fact
that
many
of
the
neighbors
along
the
street
have
parking
pads.
So
I
think
it
is
a
huge
issue
when
our
body
is
picking
and
choosing
who
can
get
one
who
can't
so
that's
one
of
the
main
factors
and
reasons
why
I
will
be
supporting
in
the
parking
pad.
Having
spoken
to
the
applicants,
I
believe
that
they
are
trying
to
do
their
best
to
navigate
the
bureaucracy
of
a
city.
I
Why
they're
inexpensive
a
community
of
adjustment
coming
here
and
even
as
counselors
women
are
confused
by
what
way
we
should
be
putting
people
in
our
constituents,
so
I
think
they've
been
trying
to
do
the
best
job
they
can.
So
for
those
reasons,
I
am
going
to
be
supporting
any
alternative
recommendations.
Thank
You.
K
I'm
going
to
take
a
contrary
view
I'm
not
going
to
support
the
parking
pad,
you
have
a.
We
have
a
poll
that
was
rather
overwhelming
I,
don't
know
why
we
are
now
if
we
had
17
deputies
who
came
today
who
were
opposed
to
this
of
all
the
17
people
you
know
in
in
the
poll
came,
could
it
met?
It
met
the
criteria
for
the
response
rate,
but
it
was
overwhelming.
It
was
59%.
Almost
60%
of
the
of
the
respondents
and
people
only
respond
when
they
feel
strongly
about
something.
K
H
Your
the
any
other
speakers
seeing
none
I'm,
actually
going
to
make
a
different
motion
and
I'm
going
to
speak
to
that
I'm,
going
to
move
deferral
and
here's.
Why
I
thank
the
speaker
and
the
owner
of
the
home
to
come
over
and
and
talk
to
us
about
the
changes
that
he's
made
to
his
parking
pad
plans
and
actually,
on
balance,
you
know
I'm
interested
in
what
he
had
to
say
and
I
think
he's
tracking
towards
something.
H
That's
acceptable,
I
think
things
have
changed
and
I'm
not
sure
about
the
poll
I'm,
just
not
sure,
and-
and
he
brought
some
letters
forward
and
that
poll
might
change.
But
I
don't
know
because
the
poll
hasn't
been
done.
What
has
changed
and
what
is
very
important
is
that
he
has
mentioned
that
his
neighbor
is
now
interested
in
the
parking
pad
and
this
whole
situation
has
changed
because
I'm
convinced
that
once
we
put
the
ramp
in
that
neighbor
has
a
straight
walk
through
on
the
parking
pad
next
door
and
we're
now
dealing
with
2
for
1.
H
In
this
situation,
even
though
that
application
hasn't
been
made
and
I
think
this
committee
should
be
dealing
with
the
2
for
1
and
I
think
this
committee
should
have
the
benefit
of
the
polling
on
the
2
for
1.
Even
though
that
application
is
not
there,
you
can
be
sure
it's
going
to
be
back
at
this
council
and
then
we're
going
to
be
stuck
in
a
position
of
while
we
put
one
on
this
side.
H
This
Community
Council
will
deal
with
the
extra
ramp
issue
and
that
sometimes
swings
the
vote
positive
or
negative,
and
we'll
have
to
decide
that.
But
the
most
important
thing
is:
is
the
fact
that
there's
now
two
parking
pads
on
our
plate
and
that's.
Why
that's
my
rationale
on
that
I
know.
We
have
various
opinions,
because
this
is
a
very,
very
complicated
file
and
in
very
cognizant
that
the
committee
of
adjustment
has
had
some
language
introduced
into
that
ruling.
That
was
showing
some
intent
of
there
being
a
parking
pad
here.
H
Although
the
process
is
the
process,
so
I'll
place
that
motion
forward,
we'll
see
what
happens
with
it,
and
thank
you
for
listening,
so
I
think
sequentially.
That
comes
first
so
on
the
motion
of
the
deferral.
I
guess
I'll
have
to
record
a
vote
on
this
or
do
we
need
a
recorded
vote?
Okay.
So
anyone
in
favor
of
that
we
have
a
deferral,
deferral
till
September.
D
H
H
P
You
counsel,
I
am
the
owner
of
sixty
four
times
Lily's.
We
purchased
the
home
last
year
to
possession
July
15th
at
the
time
of
the
purchase.
We
were
aware
that
the
parking
pad
that
existed
on
the
space
was
unlicensed.
The
two
previous
owners
apparently
had
been
parking
illegally
on
the
spot
on
the
parking
pad,
but
we
wanted
to
go
through
the
proper
channels
and
legitimize
the
spot.
So
we've
gone
through
the
process.
P
We
had
a
favorable
poll
from
the
neighbors
and
we
are
just
waiting
on
approval
of
the
appeal
due
to
the
tree
protection
zone,
a
word
on
the
parking
spot
for
us
wave,
two
small
children,
one
17
months
old
and
one
3
years,
7
years
old.
If
there
is
no
street
parking
on
our
side
of
the
street,
so
every
time
we
have
to
use
the
car
we're
crossing
the
street
with
our
young
children,
which
is
not
ideal
from
a
safety
perspective.
P
In
addition
to
that,
my
father-in-law
has
mobility
issues
so
when
he
comes
to
visit
it's
difficult
for
him
to
get
to
our
house,
sometimes
because
you
can't
park
in
our
right
on
our
property.
So
we
have
a
the
tree
is
a
quite
far
from
the
parking
pad
I
believe
it's
near
the
edge
of
the
protection
zone,
and
we
would
just
like
to
request
that
an
exceptionally
made
for
that.
K
P
E
You
mr.
chair
minute,
good
morning,
miss
turn
into
very
good
come
here
and
welcome
to
were
17,
even
though
that
shooting
up
and
go
to
my
office
in
terms
of
the
application
but
I
deviate
aside
and
I
happen
to
be
very
familiar
with
that
Street
very,
very
familiar
with
that
Street,
including
the
previous
owners
of
who
they
live
there.
Now.
E
My
question
to
you
is
in
terms
of
the
three
the
existing
tree
there
and
if
any
mechanical
excavation
excavation
was
to
be
done
for
the
premium
parking
there,
there
is
an
strong
possibility
that
the
root
system
may
get
damaged.
So
if,
instead
of
doing
any
mechanical
excavation
within
the
tree
protection
zone,
a
manual
excavation
be
done
which
will
be
agreeable
to
it.
E
Yes,
so
you'll
be
okay
with
that
cause,
I'm
planning
to
move
a
recommendation
that,
in
terms
of
protections
three
and
we're
very
serious
when
it
comes
to
the
tree
protection
through
the
tree
canopy
in
the
in
the
alien
to
protect
those
trees.
So
that's
very
important
to
make
every
effort
to
protect
that
tree,
so
I'm
going
to
be
moving
recommendation
to
that
effect.
That
you'll
be
okay
with
that
recommendation,
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
going
to
be
done
to
protect
it.
Yes,.
A
C
J
C
E
E
They
will
have
to
work
within
that
section
there
and
to
ensure
that
there
is
no
major
excavation
now
in
terms
of
the
or
their
polling,
91%
or
the
community
are
in
support
of
that
application.
Yes,
castle
campbell,
91%
of
them
and
it's
or
this
application,
and
that
to
me
as
an
elected
member
that
speaks
volumes
in
the
communities
in
favor
I
would
definitely
support
something
that
the
community
ones
in
this
particular
case
and
parking
is
a
requirement
there.
E
A
H
A
I
I
The
issue
before
you
at
the
moment
is
part
of
the
larger
issue
regarding
basement
apartment.
That
is,
requiring
a
committee
of
adjustment
hearing
as
a
matter
of
record
I've
spoken
to
that
to
the
committee
of
adjustment
and
also
I've,
been
in
communication
with
councilor
dousset's
office.
Regarding
this,
the
result
of
the
February
poll
announced
on
March
1st
that
the
request
for
front
yard
parking
at
560,
Willard
Avenue
was
denied
and
that
the
matter
could
not
be
redressed
until
2020,
and
yet
here
we
are
debating
an
appeal
in
that
ruling.
So
my
first
questions
general.
I
My
next
question
is
a
little
more
specific
are
related.
The
legal
front
yard
parking
at
560
Willard
has
been
continuous
indeed,
as
recently
as
yesterday,
and
this
has
been
ongoing
since
last
autumn.
How,
and
when
did
the
owner
communicate
the
result
of
the
poll
to
his
tenants
that
front
yard
parking
was
illegal
and
that
they
should
desist
in
the
hope
that
council
will
reject
today's
appeal?
Will
the
owner
communicate
the
results
of
such
a
decision
to
his
tenants
that
front
yard
parking
is
illegal
and
that
they
should
desist
immediately?
I
I
Finally,
it
should
be
noted
that
between
a
net
street
to
the
south
and
Hanley
Street
to
the
north,
there
are
32
other
homes
on
Willard
and
not
one
of
them
has
front
yard
parking.
While
a
parking
pad
might
be
believed
to
add
value
to
this
one
property,
it
would
most
certainly
devalue
the
neighborhood.
The
exception
in
this
instance
should
not
override
the
rule.
C
C
H
I
H
H
I
H
A
I
C
I'm
going
to
ask
you
questions
about
the
parking
pad
identify
someone
later,
you
can
ask
answer
questions
about
committee
of
adjustment,
so
we
have
a
parking
pad
request
here
where
he
has
a
private
driveway.
Now
this
is
something
I'm
not
as
familiar
with.
Can
you
tell
me
the
rules
about
parking
in
a
private
driveway
versus
mutual
driveways,
where
you
can't
park
on.
J
The
private
driveway
fronting
the
main
front
wall
of
the
dwelling
parking
is
permitted
under
the
new
zoning
bylaw
I
believe
under
our
frontier
parking
bylaw.
It
is
permitted
without
requiring
the
requirement
of
a
permit
or
license
from
us
as
long
as
the
vehicle
doesn't
overhang
the
sidewalk
and
provides
a
point
three
meter
clearance,
so
vehicles
can
be
parked
andum
back
to
back
as
long
as
the
clearance
is
met.
Okay,.
C
J
C
Okay,
no
thank
you
very
much.
I
have
questions.
Anyone
here
knows
committee
of
adjustment.
Anyone
because
I
have
a
happy
for
me.
The
committee
of
adjustment
from
Thursday
March
23rd,
where
the
owner
of
the
property
requested
to
construct
a
third
dwelling
unit
in
the
basement
of
the
existing
dwelling.
It
says
that
one
of
his
variances
was
that
he
had
obviously
have
to
add
another
parking
spot
because
four
units,
you
need
one
off
street
parking
spot
per
unit,
and
it
says
he
already
does
provide
two
parking
spots.
F
C
D
The
chair,
Council,
that
is
correct,
that
is
one
of
the
variances
three
parking
spots,
were
required,
whereas
two
were
provided.
I
can't
speak
to
why
the
committee
of
adjustment
made
the
decision.
I
can
tell
you
that,
based
on
our
comments
and
just
looking
at
them
digitally
we
we
approved
wewe,
had
no
objections
to
that
variance
because
they
had
sufficient
room
on
site
to
park.
Another
vehicle,
okay,.
C
I
mean
one
of
the
other
variance.
Is
that
right
now
in
this
neighborhood
you're
permitted
to
units
but
you're
not
permitted,
three
units
and
I
know
my
neighborhood
a
lot
of
my
residents.
You
know
people
don't
want
three
units
because
the
cost
anyway.
So
that's
not
a
question.
I'm
rambling.
Thank
you
very
much
question.