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Executive Committee, meeting 10, November 14, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
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Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BetsaMlTbUk
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0:10:35 - Call to order
A
Good
morning,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
members
of
the
committee
and
and
our
members
of
city
staff
and
our
guests
today
we
have
quorum
and
I
will
call
the
tenth
meeting
of
the
executive
committee
to
order.
We
acknowledge
that
the
lands
that
we're
meeting
on
are
on
the
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit,
the
Anishinaabe,
the
Chippewa,
the
Hutt
nashoni
and
the
wind
at
people's
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
First,
Nations,
Inuit
and
maytee
people.
We
also
acknowledge
that
Toronto
is
covered
by
treaty.
A
A
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest
under
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
Act?
And
if
so,
please
indicate
the
item
number
and
the
nature
of
the
interest,
seeing
none
we'll
continue
to
move
forward.
When
I
have
a
motion,
please
to
confirm
the
minutes
of
the
executive
committee
meeting
held
on
October
23rd
2019
councillor
Ainsley,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Kerry.
Thank
you.
So
we
have
five
members
present
today.
A
couple
of
others
are
not
able
to
be
with
us,
so
we'll
have
to
make
sure
that
we
maintain
the
quorum
here
and
so
I
would
propose.
A
We
might
have
a
break
short,
very
short
break
and
sometime
during
the
morning,
if
people
I
need
to
have
one,
but
if
they
do
for
any
reason,
please
let
me
know
and
I'll
try
to
accommodate
that.
I
will
also
remind
members
of
the
fact
that
we
have
a
statutory
hearing
scheduled
at
10:00
o'clock
today
for
the
purposes
of
our
visitors.
It's
required
by
law.
We
deal
with
those
matters
in
a
certain
way
and
to
hear
those
matters
at
a
certain
time.
A
That's
provided
for
in
public
notices
that
are
given,
and
so
we
would
we'd
give
a
notice
that
matter
would
be
dealt
with
that
10:00
o'clock
this
morning
and
I.
Don't
know
how
long
it's
going
to
take,
but
we
will
consider
item
X
10.6,
which
responds
to
a
complaint
filed
pursuant
to
the
development
charges
Act.
A
A
So
will
redistribute
their
own
updated
letter
and
we'll
deal
with
that.
At
that
time
we
would
have
given
people
a
chance
to
read
it
anyway
can
I
well
I,
guess
we
can't
add
the
item
to
the
agenda
till
we
have
it
so
we'll
wait
till
we
have
the
new
letter
from
you.
So
we
have
six
items
on
the
agenda
with
the
7th
to
come
and
let's
proceed
with
the
rundown
which
again
won't
take
too
long
item.
Ix
10.1
is
being
held.
A
The
poverty
reduction
strategy
2019
to
2022
action
plan,
is
being
held
for
deputations
item
IX
10.2
implementing
tenants.
First,
new
funding
model
for
Toronto
Community
Housing
is
being
held
for
a
presentation
and
will
be
dealt
with
first
after
we
finish
with
this
item.
Ix
10.3
parkland
strategy
moved
by
Councillor
de
Nancy
ADA
the
right
staff
recommendations,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Carrie.
Thank
you
item,
X
10.4
property
taxes,
2020
interim
levy
by
law.
This
is
something
is
standard
fair,
but
we
do
have
a
mover
for
the
recommendation.
A
Thank
You
councillor
Ainsley,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
to
carry
item
X
10.5,
implementing
accessibility
measures
at
the
City
of
Toronto.
This
is
coming
from
the
executive
director
of
corporate
real
estate
management
and
it
is
directing
that
the
executive
director
report
back
on
the
implementation
of
a
dynamic
symbol
and
there's
some
other
matters
dealt
with
in
that
report.
Do
I
have
a
mover
of
the
staff
recommendations
moved
by
Councillor
Nunziata,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried.
A
We
have
to
deal
with
the
item:
X,
10.6
development
charge,
complaint,
1251,
bridal
town
circle
at
ten
o'clock
or
two
speakers
on
that.
So
that
and
then
we'll
have
the
other
added
starter
when
councillor
deputy
mayor
by
law
brings
that
forward
to
us.
So
I
think
that
does
put
us
in
good
position
to
hear
the
presentation
on
the
item.
Ix
10.2
I
think
it
is
yes.
Ten-Point
to
the
implementation
of
10
is
first
mr.
Phipps
welcome.
A
C
You
mayor,
we
understand,
my
name
is
christos
I'm,
the
director
of
social
policy
and
social
development,
finance
and
administration
I'm
here
with
Jen
st.
Louis.
She
is
the
project
manager
for
the
tenants
first
project
that
you
have
heard
about
for
the
past
three
years,
and
we
are
excited
to
be
here
today
with
a
report
that
details
our
thoughts
on
a
new
and
permanent
funding
model
for
TCH,
see
you've
heard
from
us
before
regarding
seniors
housing.
C
You've
heard
from
us
about
the
scattered
housing
portfolio
of
TCH
see
you've
heard
from
us
before
on
the
interim
funding
formula
for
TCH,
see
and
as
well
as
board
membership
tenant
board
membership.
We've
been
here
before
you
before.
Today
we
are
excited
to
be
presenting.
What
we
think
is
a
new
funding
model
for
the
city's
nonprofit
housing
company.
C
What
we
have
heard
is
that
building
maintenance
and
service
needs
to
increase
needs
to
improve,
and
that
has
been
the
focus
of
every
report
and
every
initiative
that
has
come
out
of
the
tenants
first
office.
This
can
show
you
that,
in
from
2014
to
2017
the
actual
operating
subsidy
that
the
city
has
flowed
to
TCH
C,
you
can
see
that
there
are
no
capital
funding
dollars
attached
to
this
subsidy.
It
was
basically
a
block
subsidy
that
was
provided
to
the
housing
company
to
operate.
C
The
inn
in
2017
counsel,
told
us
directed
staff
to
create
an
interim
funding
model
for
2018
and
2019.
The
this
report
on
the
permanent
funding
model
is
to
implement
in
2020,
so
both
of
those
funding
models,
the
interim
funding
model
and
the
permanent
model
were
intended
to
include
both
operating
and
capital.
So
you
can
see
in
the
interim
funding
model
in
2018
the
city
funded,
T,
C,
HC,
two
hundred
and
forty-one
point
four
million
dollars
in
operating
and
a
hundred
and
sixty
million
dollars
in
capital.
C
That
was
the
first
time
that
the
city
fully
funded
the
capital
op,
the
capital
needs
of
TC
HC.
Everybody
has
heard
about
the
state
of
good
repair.
Everybody
has
heard
about
the
backlog
and
TC
HC
buildings.
This
is
the
city's
contribution
and
signaling
its
intent
to
improve
service
and
building
quality
and
standards
for
tcht
tenants
in
2019.
C
The
projected
subsidy
for
TC
HC
is
238
million
dollars
and
only
40
million
dollars
from
from
city
because
of
a
one-time
provincial
shaped
grant
for
one
hundred
and
thirty
three
million
dollars.
But
the
totals
remain
of
similar
magnitudes
around
four
hundred
and
ten
million
dollars
a
year
from
the
city
to
TC
HC.
When.
D
We
began
this
work.
We
looked
at
a
criteria
for
the
permanent
funding
model,
which
was
presented
in
the
tenons
first
phase,
one
implementation
plan
in
2017,
so
this
really
guided
our
work
to
develop
a
funding
model
and
they
were
items
like
being
predictable
and
stable.
We
wanted
TC
HC
to
know
the
magnitude
of
the
subsidy
they
would
receive
and
be
able
to
plan
appropriately.
We
wanted
to
allow
for
inflationary
increases.
We
wanted
the
system
to
be
simpler,
to
administer
for
both
TC
HC
and
the
city.
D
So
what
we're
proposing
in
this
report
is
a
rent
supplement
based
model
and
what
that
means
is
that
we
are
proposing
that
the
city
subsidizes
TC
HC
up
to
amount
that
is
equivalent
to
75%
of
average
market
rent,
so
that
amount
75%
of
average
market
rent
creates
a
baseline
revenue
for
TC
HC
and
the
rent
supplement.
Part
of
that
means
that,
if
you
know
for
a
unit
of
a
one-bedroom
unit,
75%
of
average
market
rent
is
equivalent
to
$700.
D
If
a
tenant
pays
$200,
the
city
will
pay
the
difference
and
top
up
to
that
75%
baseline
included
in
this
is
a
hundred
and
sixty
million
dollars
annually,
which
will
be
applied
towards
the
capital
program
and
each
year
after
the
baseline
year
were
proposing
that
a
cost
factor
be
applied
to
the
operating
subsidy
and
working
with
TCH
see.
We
believe
this
amount
is
adequate
to
provide
a
good
level
of
service
for
tenants
and
the
ongoing
delivery
of
the
capital
program.
C
So
here
we
can
see
that
there's
that
they
opt
the
operating
subsidy
difference
between
2019
and
2020
s
about
twelve
point:
seven
million
dollars.
If
we
apply
this,
the
the
proposed
model,
if
you,
if
you
compare
the
per
unit
subsidy
to
under
this
model,
to
TCH
C
units
versus
other
social
housing
provider
units,
we
are
still
funding
TC
HC
at
a
lower
level
than
we
are
other
social
housing
providers.
C
This
model
is
about
seven
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
a
unit
annually
to
other
social
housing
providers
that
the
city
manager
provides
service
management
to
it's
about
eleven
thousand
one
hundred
dollars
per
unit.
So
we're
hoping
that
through
economies
of
scale
that
TC
HC
will
be
able
to
be
the
kind
of
landlord
that
we
expect
that
we
expect
our
social
housing
landlord
to
be.
But
it
is
still
less
than
what
we
are
funding.
Other
social
housing
providers
across
the
city.
D
So
the
benefits
of
the
proposed
model,
as
Chris
mentioned,
we
will
still
benefit
from
TC
h's
economies
of
scale.
We
are
proposing
a
new
and
strengthened
accountability
framework,
so
realizing
that
with
increased
subsidy
comes
an
increased
responsibility
to
be
accountable
to
council.
It
provides
for
flexibility
to
potentially
move
frankerq
to
income
subsidy
within
the
affordable
housing
system.
C
That's
the
extent
of
our
presentation,
mr.
mayor
and
as
we
hope,
this
is
provides
both
a
simple
and
predictable
formula
for
funding
TC
HC
and
will
also
improve
services
to
tenants
across
the
entire
portfolio,
both
the
mixed
portfolio
and
the
seniors
portfolio
and
the
scattered
portfolio
and
we're
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
E
You,
okay,
you're
gonna,
have
to
sell
me
on
the
economy
of
scale
amount,
so
you're
you're
you're
hoping
that
to
realize
through
economy
of
scale,
four
thousand
dollars
per
unit,
so
that
so
that
they
will
be.
You
know
a
fairly
served.
You
know
seven
thousand
versus
11
thousand
per
year
per
unit.
That's
a
lot
to
realize
your
economy
of
scale.
So
give
me
an
idea
of
how
that
happens.
What
are
the
tangibles
that
actually
would?
E
We
would
actually
be
able
to
run
something
more
cheaply
to
that
to
that
amount
and
also
does
the
management
model
match
the
financial
assumption
of
economy
of
scale
if,
if
every
few
years
or
so
we
hear
that
people
want
more
of
the
management
to
happen
on
the
ground,
more
of
the
repairs
happen
on
the
ground.
So
it
sounds
like
trying
to
get
economy
of
scale
and
centralizing
a
model,
but
then
breaking
through
ten,
this
first
policy
down
into
smaller
groups
and
decentralizing
the
management
those
seem
at
odds.
B
Through
the
mayor,
let
me
start,
and
maybe
staff
and
tcht
could
augment.
We've
worked
very
closely
with
TC
HC
to
understand
their
operating
expenses.
Their
capital
needs
in
developing
this
model.
We've
also
worked
with
them.
I
know
that
TC
HC
has
plans
to
improve
services
right
at
the
property
level
and
what
this
report
also
talks
about
and
what
we're
going
to
be
implementing
is
this
is
our
starting
point.
Based
on
the
experience
that
we
had
in
increasing
the
operating
funding
in
the
interim
model
for
the
first
two
years,
it
seemed
manageable.
F
Yeah,
just
that's
true
the
it's
true
the
mayor,
I
would
I.
Would
you
know
echo
what
the
deputy
city
manager's
indicated?
I
would
tell
you
that
you
know,
as
we
you
know
in
our
restructuring
that
we
announced
in
the
organization
where
we're
driving
service
levels
and
the
management
of
service
levels
down
further
into
the
field
and
investing
in
frontline
staff
that
should
substantially
improve
the
service
levels
that
we
are
providing
the
tents
counselor.
E
If
I
can
ask
follow-up,
then
okay
I'll
go
in
this
learning
journey,
but
for
the
for
their
report
and
to
come
up
with
this
model.
We
looked
at
that
comparison.
What
are
other
service
providers
and
and
coops,
etc,
really
realizing
for
for
operating
on
a
per
unit
basis?
If
we,
if
we
have
frequent
reviews
to
see
if
this
works
and
see,
if
in
fact,
you
can
realize
that
kind
of
economy
of
scale
or
you
need
to
bump
it
up
in
in
subsequent
reviews,
can
we
continue
to
use
that
comparator?
E
F
E
C
G
You
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
and
thank
you
for
this
presentation,
uninhabitable
units
and
the
capital
plan
before
us.
Will
we
be
able
to
get
those
back
on
the
market
might
never
show
over
600
uninhabitable
and,
of
course,
when
you
have
an
uninhabitable
unit,
any
kind
of
problems
with
leaking
their
mold
or
those
kinds
of
problems
spread
to
other
units.
Are
you
tackling
that.
F
F
Through
the
through
the
chair,
yes
and
yes,
we
are
on
top
of
that
issue
as
well.
Our
rentable
vacant
units
is
now
around
a
thousand
units,
which
is
a
sense
of
decrease
of
what
it
was
when
we
started
an
action
program
to
address
that
we
have.
We
are
now
focusing
even
further
efforts
on
the
vacancy
units
in
the
bachelor
space
and
expect
to
see
over
the
November
and
December
a
considerable
reduction
in
that
area
as
well.
D
G
So
the
the
rent
control
guidelines
don't
apply
to
social
housing,
because
the
in
the
rent
is
calculated
based
on
a
tenants
income,
a
household
income
and
not
on
the
market
rent
for
the
unit.
So
we
do
are
required
to
follow
legislation
for
all
our
social
housing.
Our
GI
units
that
provides
us
guidance
on
how
to
calculate
the
rent
due
rent
does
rent
go
up.
Brent
fluctuates
as
people's
income
fluctuates
all.
G
A
H
B
Through
the
mayor,
GHC
has
its
broad
operating
expenses,
we
know
what
it
collects
and
rent
and
what
the
subsidy
does
is
bridge
that
gap
between
what
they
collect
and
wrench,
which
is
30
percent
of
the
tenants
income,
and
our
subsidy
then
brings
that
total
revenue
for
them
up
to
75
percent
of
average
market
rent,
which,
in
our
estimation,
is
a
fair
amount.
Fair,
stable,
predictable
amount
for
them
to
operate
and
meet
and
start
investing
in
maintaining
their
units.
H
B
H
B
Through
the
mayor,
if
you'll
recall
a
few
years
ago,
tcht
brought
forward
its
state
of
good
repair
backlog
and
came
up.
We
came
up
with
a
10-year
plan
on
how
to
address
that
and
that
involved
securing
capital
funding
from
the
order,
other
orders
of
government.
So
we
we
had
a
magnitude
based
on
their
facility
condition
index
on
what
we
have
to
invest
from
a
capital
perspective
and
that's
how
that
160
million
got
derived.
B
It's
the
amount
that
they
need
to
augment
the
federal
funds
that
we've
received
to
bring
those
buildings
up
into
a
state
of
good
repair,
and
it's
the
amount
to
the
our
best
estimation
that
they're
gonna
continue
to
need
beyond
the
ten
years
just
to
maintain
those
buildings
in
a
state
of
good
repair.
So
we
don't
get
into
a
situation
where
ten,
you
know
ten
years
ago,
from
never
another
backlog,
ya.
H
I
F
I
F
Truly
through
the
chair,
we
can
certainly
provide
that
breakdown
as
part
of
our
budget
process
and
just
for
clarity.
When
we
speak
about
capital
repair,
we
are
speaking
to
the
items
that
are
in
the
hundred
and
sixty
million
dollars.
There
are
two
elements
that
we
have
with
regard
to
our
overall
maintenance
program
outside
of
major
capital
repair.
I
F
I
F
F
A
Thank
You
councillor
Fletcher.
What
I
would
propose
to
do
is
now
to
deal
with
this
statutory
timed
item
and
then
we'll
come
back
as
I
have
deputy
mayor
by
law
and
myself
and
unless
there's
anybody
else
who
wants
to
ask
questions
from
the
committee
and
so
we'll
come
back
to
that,
and
so
finish
up
the
question
period
on
the
tenants
first
item
at
that
time.
But
it
is
now
after
10
o'clock
and
so
I
think
it
is
a
proper
time
for
us
to
consider
the
timed
item.
A
It
is
e
x,
10.6
development,
charge,
complaint,
1251,
bridal
town
circle.
This
is
a
statutory
meeting
held
pursuant
to
the
provisions
of
the
development
charges
act
and
it
provides
for
registered
speakers
to
speak
to
the
item.
If
anybody
wish
to
speak
beyond
the
to
that,
I
will
introduce
they
should
register
with
the
clerk.
But
otherwise
we
will
proceed
to
hear
first
from
mr.
Robert
how
from
Goodman's
LLP
to
speak
on
this
matter
and
mr.
Howe
you're
most
welcome
here,
and
you
have
five
minutes
to
make
your
presentation.
J
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
good
morning
and
members
of
committee.
The
question
before
you
this
morning
is
whether
ninety
two
units
in
my
client's
development
meet
the
definition
of
apartment
unit
in
the
DC
bylaw
and
therefore
should
have
been
charged
DC's
at
the
apartment
rate.
I
want
to
make
it
clear
at
the
outset
that
my
client
is
not
seeking
a
break
or
a
reduction
in
its
development
charges,
but
simply
that
the
development
charge
by
law
be
correctly
applied.
J
All
of
the
units
in
question
are
condominium
units
and
like
apartments,
they're,
actually
constructed
above
an
underground
parking
garage
which
provides
residents
and
visit
our
parking
to
the
unit's.
The
underground
area
provides
other
amenities
that
are
traditionally
found
in
an
apartment
building
such
as
garbage
staging
areas,
shared
locker
rooms,
communal
bike
storage
and
they
also
have
communal.
Recreational
amenities
like
apartments
would
because
the
city
doesn't
provide
individual
garbage
collection
to
the
units
because
they're
on
private
roadways,
private
garbage
collection
is
also
provided
to
the
units,
just
as
it
would
for
an
apartment.
J
Building
I
want
to
have
a
visual
that
will
demonstrate
how
the
units
work.
So
here
you
see
the
underground
parking
garage.
The
units
are
above
to
access
the
units.
You
go
up,
an
external
stairway,
the
stairway
leads
to
street
level,
and
right
here
is
the
entrance
which
accesses
a
private
communal
corridor
and
that
corridor
leads
to
the
individual
entrances
to
the
individual
units.
The
definition
of
apartment
from
the
DC
is
set
accurately
in
the
staff
report
and
to
meet
that
definition.
J
A
unit
has
to
meet
certain
criteria.
It
has
to
be
in
a
building
with
three
or
more
units
that
are
accessed
through
a
common
principal
entrance
from
street
level
and
by
an
interior,
enclosed
corridor.
So
to
break
that
down,
there
are
three
essential
criteria:
the
unit
has
to
be
in
a
building
with
three
or
more
units.
Access
to
the
units
has
to
be
through
an
interior,
enclosed
corridor
and
access
to
that
corridor
has
to
be
through
a
common
principal
entrance
from
street
level.
J
The
92
units
in
question,
as
we
can
see
from
the
cross-section
here
all
meet
all
of
those
criteria.
There
are
three
or
more
units
in
each
building.
Access
to
those
units
is
through
the
interior,
enclosed
corridor
and
access
to
that
corridor
is
through
a
common
principal
entrance
from
street
level.
The
92
units
in
question
clearly
meet
the
definition
of
apartment
units
and
should
have
been
charged
development
charges
at
the
apartment
unit
rate.
J
So
if
it
comes
down
to
which
entrance
is
the
principal
entrance,
I
think
we
need
to
look
at.
We
need
to
consider
what
the
definition
of
principal
is:
there's,
no
definition
in
the
WHI
law.
So
we
look
to
what
the
normal
meaning
of
principal
is
the
normal
meaning
of
principal
is
primary,
our
most
important
and
the
primary
our
most
important
entry.
These
unit
has
to
be
the
one
that's
most
frequently
used
and
that's
simply
a
matter
of
common
sense
so
which
access
to
these
units
is
the
one.
J
That's
most
frequently
used
it's
access
to
and
from
the
common
corridor,
which
is
the
access
that
most
conveniently
accesses
the
parking
area
given
the
location
of
these
units
of
this
development.
That
is
the
entrance
that
would
be
most
commonly
used,
and
that
therefore,
is
the
principal
entrance,
while
the
other
external
entrances
to
the
outdoors
may
read
as
a
front
door
from
an
aesthetic
perspective
or
an
urban
designs
perspective,
and
they
will
be
used
from
time
to
time.
They
are
not
the
entrances
that
are
most
principally
used
by
the
residents.
J
Finally,
if
you
believe
that
there's
any
ambiguity
at
all
in
terms
of
how
the
bylaw
should
be
applied,
that
ambiguity
should
be
resolved
in
favor
of
my
client,
who
is
making
efforts
to
provide
innovative
housing
solutions
and
is
delivering
exactly
the
type
of
housing
that
this
city
needs.
Higher
density,
more
affordable
family
oriented
housing
units
commonly
referred
to
as
the
missing
middle.
So
those
are
my
submissions.
We
think
the
bylaw
is
clear.
A
Have
yes
so
the
way
I
think
we
have
mister?
Are
you
mister
wait,
Waltman,
okay,
you're
separately
listed
to
speak
so
I
would
I
can
call
on
you
because
the
time
is
up
for
this
first
submission.
But
if
you
wanted
to
just
carry
on
that's
also
fine
I
can
sort
of
a
lot
of
you
that
the
same
five
minutes
you
would
have
got
either
which
way,
and
then
we
could
have
questions
to
both
of
you.
If
there
are
some
it's
up
to
you
entirely
I'm.
A
G
J
The
apartment
rate
applies
to
units
that
meet
the
definition
of
apartment
and
units
that
meet
the
definition
of
stacked
townhouses,
we're
not
suggesting
that
these
units
meet
the
definition
of
stacked,
townhouses
worth's,
we're
saying
that
they
meet
the
definition
of
apartment
unit
in
the
bylaw
because
they
are
accessed
principally
by
a
common
entrance,
that's
accessible
from
the
street
level
that
provides
an
interior
access
to
the
individual
units,
and
that
is
the
definition
of
apartment
in
the
development
charge
by
law.
So,
therefore,
we
are
saying
that
these
innovative
units
meet
the
definition
of
apartment.
All.
K
Just
want
to
add
one
point:
this
is
not
a
transit-oriented
site
per
se
being
in
a
suburban
context
and
most
of
our
owners
or
tenants,
as
the
case
may
be,
use
a
vehicle
to
go
to
and
from
work.
The
landing
that
mr.
Howe
referred
to,
which
provides
access
to
the
common
corridor,
is,
in
fact
six.
Perhaps
seven
units
removed
from
risers,
risers,
sorry
removed
from
the
surface
from
great.
K
K
A
E
E
K
E
K
A
E
There's
quite
a
bit
of
density
in
the
area,
but
there's
also
single-family
dwelling
around
the
circle,
and
there
was
some
concern
when
this
was
going
into
the
school
site,
not
adding
density
because
you're
right.
This
is
not
a
transit
corridor.
Even
in
the
old
former
transit
city,
there
wasn't
a
plan
in
in
vinci's.
So
so
during
the
the
application
for
development
and
and
when
you
were
working
with
the
community,
what
what
did
you
call
them
when
you
were
consulting
with
the
community
and
trying
to
get
approval?
I.
E
K
K
E
E
A
J
I
make
one
one
kind,
of
course,
even
if
the
even
if
the
units
had
been
marketed
as
townhouses
as
part
of
the
marketing
material
when
the
units
were
sold.
That's
not
the
question.
That's
before
the
committee.
The
question
that's
before
the
committee
is
whether
or
not
these
units
meet
the
definition
of
apartment
unit
in
the
development
charge.
Bylaw,
it's
a
legal
question,
that's
before
you
and
that
you're
entitled
to
make
a
decision
in
respect
of
so
whether
they
were
marketed
as
townhouse
units
or
not
really
is
not
relevant
to
the
question.
That's
before
you.
K
A
Okay?
Well
hearing?
None
all!
Thank
you
both
very
much.
We
would
now
then
move
to
questions
of
staff
that
I
think
in
there
was
at
least
one
that
two
councillor
Pasternak
first
said
he
had
and
then
we'll
go
to
councillors
in
ceará
and
we
can
go
from
there.
So
councillor
Pasternak,
you
said
you
had
a
question
of
staff
I,
just.
G
G
L
L
I
guess
today
to
the
issue
and
staff
believe
that,
and
we
met
with
the
applicant
on
a
number
of
occasions
and
did
our
best
to
understand
their
position-
that
the
entrance
that's
purported
to
be
principal
and
common
and
from
a
street
level,
is
an
access
essentially
to
a
corridor
that
feeds
the
underground
parking
and
not
the
principal
entrance,
which
in
fact,
in
our
view
and
in
staff
view,
is
the
front
door
to
the
units.
And
so
all
of
these
issues
are
in
play.
L
I
Some
of
my
questions
council
passed
in
that
cast,
but
in
the
report
it
says
that
the
opposite
can
pay
the
development
charges
under
protest.
So
I
assume
that
there
were
a
number
of
meetings
with
the
applicant
and
the
city
staff
prior
to
this
and
and
they
paid
the
development
charges,
so
they
can
get
their
building
permit.
My
question:
that
was
one
question.
My
question
is
when
the
application
was
submitted
into
the
city,
what
was
the
application.
L
I
L
A
H
Question
of
staff
is
based
on
the
different
interpretation.
How
much
money
are
we
talking
about
and
two,
if
you
did
make
a
change
with
that,
then
set
a
precedent
for
similar
type,
the
similar
type
development
to
be
considered
in
a
similar
way.
So
how
much
money,
and
would
it
set
a
precedent
if
you
were
to
make
a
decision
if
you
were
to
accept
their
definition
of
what?
How
this.
L
L
You
know
a
staff
simply
interpret
a
bylaw
that
has
approved
every
five
years
and
we
do
our
best
to
apply
that
consistently
and
fairly,
and
the
applicant
has
the
right
to
seek
a
hearing
when
there
are
questions
of
how
we've
interpreted
it.
We
think
we've
interpreted
correctly
and
the
precedent
value
of
this.
It's
it's
very
difficult
to
say
it's
a
client,
somewhat
unique
development.
I
think
we
all
agree,
but
I
would
say
to
you
that
staff
are.
We
consider
ourselves
the
experts
in
doing
this
interpretation,
and
we
ask
you
to
support
our
recommendation.
A
That's
relevant
to
me
not
in
the
context
of
I
know
that
the
council
indicated
that
it's
only
a
question
of
interpreting
the
law,
but
I
mean
I'm,
assuming
maybe
that
the
people
who
made
the
application
interpreted
the
law
themselves
and
calling
something
by
a
certain
name
when
they
made
the
application.
I.
Think
it's
just
a
relevant
piece
of
information
is
that
does
anybody
from
the
building
staff
know
what
what
what
these,
how
they
were
described?
That
we've
heard
an
honest
answer
of
how
they
were
described
in
the
in
the
marketing
material?
Mr.
K
M
A
E
I
I
think
that
the
report
is
the
report.
Here
is
great
because
it
really
lays
out
and-
and
we
always
every
time
we
discuss
development
charges.
We
learned
something:
I
just
learned
something
new
again
from
mr.
hatten
about
that.
That
calculation
includes
what
the
what
other
legislators
view
is
the
the
perceived
number
of
people
that
will
live
in
a
dwelling
as
part
of
the
calculation.
E
This
is
a
this
is
a
development
but
way
back
in
the
day.
Was
councillor
del
grands
word
when
when
Timothy
and
was
declared
surplus,
but
this
is
an
area
where
people
do
have
an
angst
about
density,
because
there
was
also
the
the
surprise
application
in
the
area,
bridled
town
mall
part
of
that
trend
in
developing
all
of
the
paved
area
and
malls.
So
this
is
a
little
stress
about
density.
Town
house
is
a
great
thing
to
put
in
here.
That
was
the
application
and,
and
it
calmed
everyone
down
and
that's
wonderful,
but
I,
think
I.
E
Think
the
most
important
question
asked
there's
all
the
fine
points
of
this
report,
but
councillor
protest.
Does
our
decision
set
a
precedent
he
and
and
the
answer,
if
we're
honest
with
ourselves
as
well?
Of
course,
it
does
because
the
the
most
common
use
of
our
tower
renewal
policy,
but
what
do
we
do
on
on
towers
in
the
park?
This
wrapped
townhouses
around
things
on
large
site
development?
We
built?
We
see
development
applications
for
condos
all
the
time,
always
there
townhouses
wrapped
around
them.
E
Why
they're
much
cheaper
to
build
in
the
towers
have
you've
got
additional
land
left
over?
That's
what
you
put
on
them,
because
beyond
vertical
buildings,
the
fastest
and
most
profitable,
fastest
selling
thing
in
Toronto
and
increasingly
in
the
GTA,
his
town
houses,
many
many
people
have
realized
I'm,
never
going
to
own
a
single-family
dwelling,
but
I
could
own
a
damn
good
townhouse,
and
so
we
see
them
going
in
an
infill
sites
as
part
of
large
sites.
E
There's
all
sorts
of
maisonette
townhouses
dating
back
to
the
60s
in
this
town,
but
that
issue
of
precedent
in
this
built
forum
really
closes
the
door
on
revenue
that
we
sorely
need
to
service
these,
because,
as
we
also
know
when
you
go
to
lower
forms
of
density
on
a
per
person
basis,
the
infrastructure
that
we
need
to
develop
with
those
development
charges
on
a
per
person
basis
becomes
more
expensive.
So
the
revenue
we
are
asking
for,
we
will
need
to
serve
the
people
who
live
in
these.
Those
are
my
comments.
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
thank.
H
I,
just
simply
want
to
say
this
that
even
the
even
the
federal
numbers
and
I
agree
with
councillor
Carroll
that
that
people
like
to
market
townhouses
like
to
mark
kind
of
like
apartment
structures,
with
kind
of
like
walk
ups
and
all
this
other
stuff
as
town
house.
They
don't
market
them
as
as
apartments,
because
if
you
market
them
as
townhouses
the
market
gives
you
a
higher
return,
it
you
pay
more
for
a
townhouse,
then
you
pay
for
an
apartment.
H
That's
that
that's
my
view
of
it,
but,
more
importantly,
where,
where
it
all
breaks
down
for
me,
is
and
I
look
at
my
own
neighborhood
people
buy
condos
largely
to
sublet
them,
because
it
becomes
very,
very
difficult
to
buy
even
apartments
for
that
matter
to
actually
live
in
them.
You
know
faith,
you
know
with
your
mortgage
and
your
maintenance
fees
and
so
on,
and
if
you
do
that,
you
still
sublet.
H
However,
those
people,
those
additional
people
in
those
housing
forms,
are
not
captured
by
the
federal
stats
they're
not
captured
by
essentially
by
our
stats,
because
you
all
know,
especially
when
you
get
out
during
election
time
and
so
on,
that
you
discover
people
living
in
neighborhoods
and
in
housing
in
far
greater
numbers
that
anybody
suggested
to
you,
then
the
statistics
suggested
to
you.
Then
the
voters
list
suggested
to
you,
but
they're
there
and
and
I
understand
that
and
I
and
I
and
I.
A
A
A
We're
now
in
a
position
I
think
to
add,
if
it's
the
committee's,
wish,
the
added
item
of
business
put
to
our
attention
by
a
counselor
deputy
mayor
by
Lao,
with
respect
to
the
potential
update
on
the
potential
vacant
property
tax
in
Toronto,
and
they
all
accept
a
motion
which
I
have
from
deputy
mayor
viola.
To
add
this
to
the
agenda.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
Karen,
it's
item
7,
which
will
deal
with
at
the
appropriate
time.
A
Okay,
now
that
allows
us
you
have
to
sort
of
member
where
you
were
to
revert
back
to
the
tenants
first
item
x,
10.2,
and
I
think
we
were
at
the
stage
where
we
had
received
some
of
the
questions
of
staff
and
I
I
know
I.
Had
someone
I
think
the
deputy
mayor
viola
was
next,
so
you
were
your
honor
now.
What
we'll
wait
for
miss
trips?
Is
she
coming
back
or
she's
gonna
stay
where
she
was
doesn't
matter,
she's
still
here,
they're
sure
you're
over
there,
so
you're
gonna
stay
there.
C
B
B
What
the
needs
are
for
the
future
years
and
have
a
discussion
on
how
both
with
TC
HC
and
then
to
be
reconfirmed
by
council,
how
best
that
surplus
should
be
allocated
okay.
So
you
would
be
supportive
of
me
ensuring
that
an
amendment
is
put
in
to
ensure
that
the
the
surplus
remains
with
TC
HC,
maybe
to
the
CFO.
J
A
Thanks
deputy
mayor
Barlow,
any
other
members,
besides
myself,
the
one
asked
question
I
think
everybody
else
pretty
much
has
okay
and
now,
if
I
can
just
find
where
I
wrote
them
down
there,
we
are
I,
don't
know
who
this
would
properly
get
directed
to,
but
the
first
is
perhaps
to
miss
phipps.
The
purpose
of
setting
a
threshold
of
75
percent
I
mean
what
was
the
what
was
intended
by
doing
that.
Setting
a
threshold
Oh.
C
A
You
trace
back
for
me
if
you
want
to
say
over
a
period
of
15
years
and
I,
realizing
that
you
were
responsible
with
this,
that
over
that
entire
time,
and
somebody
perhaps
can
do
this
for
us
as
to
what
different
practices,
if
there
were
any
that
you
can
describe
in
any
way
that
it's
other
than
ad
hoc.
What
what?
A
J
G
The
question
mr.
mayor,
so
in
2003,
when
we
took
over
paying
the
subsidy
for
TC
HC,
we
basically
rolled
over
the
funding
they
were
getting
from
the
provincial
government,
so
we
set
block
funding
arrangement
which
paid
mortgages,
dollar-for-dollar
property
taxes,
dollar
for
dollar
and
devised
a
residual
operating
subsidy
which
was
indexed
annually
by
the
Consumer
Price
Index
provided
no
direct
capital
funding
over
the
course
of
time,
because
50%
of
TCH
seized
revenue
or
derived
from
tenants
and
those
revenues
are
flat.
The
CPI
increase
on
the
residual
didn't
provide
enough
revenue
to
keep
pace
with
expenses.
G
A
Was
it
in
fact
the
case
then
that
under
that
method,
you
just
described
because
of
the
erosion
caused
by
inflation
that
that
they
were
getting
in
effect,
I
mean
over
those
years?
Were
they
getting
kind
of
a
steady,
a
subsidy
that
was
just
worthless
because
inflation,
or
were
they
in
fact
ending
up
getting
less
at
some
points
in
time?
No,
every.
A
I
just
want
to
deal
for
a
moment
with
this
business
of
the
relative.
Compare
the
relevant,
comparator
and
I
think
you
indicated
in
questions
previously
that,
yes,
that
was
B
I,
think
what
the
implication
was.
I
don't
want
for
words.
You
mother,
want
you
to
tell
us
that
that
was
a
comparator
that
would
be
continued
to
be
used,
but
it's
not
the
only
consideration
has
taken
into
place.
It's
it's,
it
is
one,
but
could
you
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that?
It's.
C
A
Did
I
hear
you
indicating
somebody
in
the
course
of
all
this
that
there
would
be
what
I
wrote
down
was
a
continuous
review,
but
but
that
I
think
it
was
said
that
it
would
be
done
annually
and
it
was
in
response
to
the
same
series
of
questions
from
I
think
councillor
Carroll
about
the
comparators,
but
that
this
would
be
reviewed
and
that
you
know
that
the
need,
as
it
were,
and
what
was
being
provided
for
by
this
new
formula
would
be
assessed.
Based
on
how
it
was
going.
C
A
Right
I
want
to
ask
the
city
staff
men
I,
want
to
ask
mister
Marshman
the
same
question,
which
is
in
the
end.
If
you
had
to
describe
this
in
kind
of
the
elevator
description
of
what
we're
doing
here,
you
know
what
is
the?
What
is
the
what
is
the
effect
of
what
the
approval
of
this
will
do
as
compared
to
the
arrangement
that
was
in
place
up
until
this
time?
I
guess
the
last
couple
years
have
been
a
bit
different
because
the
council
recognized
some
greater
to
responsibilities
in
the
operating
side,
but
but
what?
C
They
are
the
difference
between
the
the
previous
scenario
and
going
forward.
Is
that
the
city
is
fully
embracing
TCH,
see
as
our
social
housing
provider
and
is
funding
the
capital
needs
of
our
social
housing
provider
hopefully
adequately,
and
that
we
are
taking
responsibility
for
our
portion
of
continuing
that
housing
in
a
good
state
of
repair
and
that
hasn't
that
hasn't
been
happening
until
the
interim
funding
formula
wasn't
was
instituted
and.
A
Mr.
Marshburn
same
question
to
you
I
mean
you
haven't
been
the
CEO
of
the
whole
time,
but
if
you
could,
you
have
been
around
in
different
capacities
if
you
soar
to
look
at
this
regime,
if
approved
by
the
City
Council,
ultimately
compared
to
what
you
and
your
predecessors
have
been
experiencing.
What's
going
to
be
the
difference,
I.
F
Think
one
of
the
two
I
would
call
out
two
significant
things:
one.
It
puts
us
on
the
same
basis
of
funding
as
the
balance
of
social
housing
providers
in
the
city
and
I
think
it's
important
from
a
consistency,
perspective,
I
think
from
in
addition
to
that
that
we
are
also,
we
have
a
much
higher
level
of
predictability
in
terms
of
what
the
funding
is,
because
it's
defined
and
its
formula
driven,
and
so
we
can
estimate
what
it
is
going
to
be,
as
opposed
to
in
the
block
funding
scenario.
F
A
E
I
asked
those
questions,
because
I
I'm
really
still
not
convinced
that
that
we
can
achieve
the
the
economy
of
scale
such
the
difference
between
you
know
some
of
the
places
that
people
are
living
you
know
managed
by
you
know
other
agencies
in
partnership
with
us
faith-based
or
whatever,
when
they're
spending.
You
know
almost
four
thousand
dollars
more
unit
per
year,
they're,
obviously
making
a
better
offering
and
they're
able
to
be
nimble.
E
The
person
who
moved
out
just
moved
out
three
days
ago,
but
you've
got
someone
in
an
abuse
situation
and
they
need
to
move
into
this
unit.
Do
you
have
the
resources
to
send
somebody
in
there
to
make
the
basic
repairs
before
they
move
in
that's
the
the
most
affordable
time
to
do
it
and
the
best
time
to
do
it,
and
it
also
sets
you
up
to
have
a
better
tenant
if
we
showed
respect
for
the
unit
before
we
put
you
in
it,
you're
gonna
have
respect
for
it.
E
Now
that
you
are
in
it
and
we
miss
that
boat
so
many
times,
because
we
just
don't
have
the
resources
at
the
operating
level
to
be
able
to
do
those
kinds
of
things.
So
we
sort
of
set
a
tenant
up
for
failure.
We
set
them
up
to
be
a
less
than
perfect
tenant
and
the
difficult
relationship
between
them
and
the
maintenance
staff
in
that
very
complex
they
live,
starts
off
on
a
very
wrong
footing
within
two
or
three
months
of
moving
in
I've
seen.
E
That
scenario
happened
time
and
time
again
in
the
the
the
units
in
in
my
own
community,
resourcing
ops
maintenance
to
the
point
where
we're
modeling
respect
for
this
housing
unit
and
how
precious
it
is
for
the
tenants
week
in
and
week
out
is
how
you
get
to
the
point
where
the
larger
capital
becomes
much
more
manageable
and
is
happening
in
in
an
appropriate
timeframe.
As
opposed
to
you
know,
we
scratch
our
heads.
Why
do
we
need
so
much
state
of
good
repair
and
capital
maintenance?
E
E
I'll
go
along
for
that
ride,
but
I
really
am
gonna
pay
attention
to
the
reviews,
because
if
we
don't
get
that
real
uplift
we're
looking
looking
for
such
that
people
really
start
to
feel
like
we
respect
our
properties
and
they're
their
partners
in
that
we're
going
to
have
to
come
back
to
this
and
look
at
more
resources,
and
so
what?
So?
That's
what
I'll
look
for
in
future
reviews.
Thank
you.
A
B
I
do
have
a
motion
that
I'd
like
to
clarify
and
I
did
in
my
questioning
asked
our
CFO
should
be
supportive
just
to
clarify
that
we
are
working
in
a
collaborative
way.
We
just
don't
want
tcht
to
think
that
they
need
to
make
sure
that
the
money
is
going
out
the
door.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
the
money
is
spending
spent
being
spent
effectively
effectively
and
for
the
good
of
the
the
tenants
and
that
were
in
a
collaborative
relationship.
B
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying
how
special
I
know
if
that,
for
a
lot
of
people,
this
moment
is
I'm.
Looking
in
the
room,
I
see
Effie
there
and
we
started
this
fact.
Maybe
seven
years
ago,
when
we
actually
started
looking
at
TCH
see
because
there
was
a
whole
bunch
of
scattered
houses.
The
majority
of
the
scattered
houses
that
we're
going
to
be
put
up
for
sale
to
that
would
reduce
that
stock
of
affordable
housing
in
our
city
to
solve
the
problem,
and
it
wouldn't
even
solve
the
problem.
B
Toronto
Community
Housing
we've
worked
with
the
federal
government
to
bring
1.3
billion
dollars
into
capital
repairs,
and
that
needs
to
be
taken
into
account
because
when
we
say
that
the
funding
here
is
a
75%
AMR
and
the
other
organizations
have
a
little
bit
more
yes,
but
they
don't
have
the
1.3
billion
dollars
as
well
from
the
federal
government.
But
let's
remind
ourselves
when
we
started
this
work.
B
When
we
started
this
work,
we
had
a
budget
of
about
a
hundred.
Ninety
seven
million
dollars,
including
capital,
including
capital,
T
C
HC,
was
spending
fifty
million
dollars
in
capital.
What
we're
doing
here
today
is
we're
doubling
we're
doubling
the
funding
for
this
organization,
we're
taking
ownership
over
these
units.
We're
saying
we're:
maintaining
the
stock
of
affordable
housing,
we're
having
healthy,
livable,
safe
conditions
for
our
tenants
to
to
to
live
and
we're
gonna
create
the
conditions
for
the
corporation
to
say.
B
We
have
predictable
funding
that
we
can
work
towards
goals
of
customer
satisfaction
or
satisfaction
for
our
tenants
cleansing
and
for
our
tenants
active
activities
to
be
a
good
landlord
to
focus
on
being
a
good
landlord.
But
let's,
let's
see
what
we
have
in
front
of
us,
what
we
have
in
front
of
us,
it's
a
capital
plan
that
had
got
funding
from
federal
government.
When
many
said,
you
would
never
come
that
the
city
has
now
embarked
to
make
sure
that
that
we
are
at
the
table,
we
doubled.
We've
doubled
the
funding,
and
we're
saying
we're
here.
B
I
did
oh
I
did
with
her
blood
and
I
know
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
being
done
by
the
team
attendance
first,
but
I
know
that
Julianne
was
very,
very
passionate
about
this
issue.
We've
been
at
this
issue
for
many
many
years
today.
Many
people
in
this
room
and
I
know
many
staff
have
are
looking
at
this
and
finally,
some
finally
were
making
good
on
this
corporation
that,
yes,
it's
been
downloaded
on
us
from
the
province,
but
for
years
and
years
the
city
was
neglecting
accepting
it
and
we
were
not
funding
it
properly.
B
We're
not
looking
at
it
as
our
own
responsibility
and
today
what
we're
doing
in
here
is
saying
we're
gonna
take
responsibility.
We
know
it
is
our
asset,
but,
most
importantly,
these
are
our
residents
and
and
we're
gonna
be
funding
it
properly.
So
I
really
want
to
thank
staff.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
tenants.
I
I
see
many
of
them
here
all
the
the
tenants
people
that
have
been
involved
in
advocating
for
this.
It's
not
the
end
of
it.
We're
just
halfway
through
we're.
Gonna
continue
to
have
revisiting
we're
gonna
continue
to
analyze.
B
We
need
to
make
sure
that
this
money
translates
into
exactly
what
we
want,
which
is
better
housing
for
our
tenants.
That
work
needs
to
continue,
but
I
think
we
need
to
acknowledge
that
this
is
a
big
step,
big,
a
big
step
that
the
city
is
taking
to
make
sure
that
we
live
up
to
being
a
good
landlord
and
to
be
a
good.
A
good
corporate
citizen.
I
think.
N
E
Thank
you.
Well
I'm,
just
it's
a
bit.
It's
a
big
leap
to
say
you
get
to
keep
your
surplus.
That's
that's
a
big
leap
in
budget
policy,
but
I'm
prepared
to
do
it,
because
this
is
such
an
extreme
and
urgent
situation.
I'm
just
worried
about
the
last
line.
It's
used
be
directed
by
the
city
through
the
budget
process.
E
Are
you
sure
you
don't
want
to
sweater
that
in
some
way
must
be
used
on
capital
or
something
like
that
and
the
reason
I
asked
that
question
is
I'm
I'm,
anticipating
our
wacky
special
budget
council
session,
where
someone
could
say-
and
you
know
people
will
start
doing
their
backstroke
through
the
books
to
see
if
you
have
a
surplus
to
ask
for
this
thing
in
my
ward
right
now,
which
could
then
undermine
both
the
board
and
your
capital
plan.
I
think
this.
B
Is
the
the
it's
the
discussion
that
our
staff
and
tcht
are
gonna
have,
so
we
have
a
much
closer
relationship
nowadays,
our
staff,
our
finance
staff,
works
with
TC
HC
on
a
line
by
line
and
I.
Think
that
conversation
that
cooperation
needs
to
happen,
and
it's
right
now
happening
through
the
budget
process
and
that's
why
I
put
it
because
everybody
agrees
that
we
have
the
visibility,
you're.
E
B
A
I
O
I
We
haven't
fully
completed
and
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
the
report.
It
I
just
want
to
say
is
that
you
know
I
I'm
and
pleased
that
we're
putting
you
know
millions
of
dollars
into
the
capital,
and
it's
been
a
long
time
since
this
is
since
we've
had
this
come
forward.
So
I'm
pleased
with
that,
and
thank
you
to
staff
I
just
want
to
say
my
priority
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
my
ward
and
and
I
know
the
CEO
we've
gone
out
on
a
number
of
tours.
I
My
building
is
the
maintenance
of
our
buildings
that
got.
We
really
need
to
focus
on
the
maintenance,
yes
capital,
but
maintenance
of
some
of
these
buildings
like
we
need
to.
We
need
to
focus
on
that,
because
I
have
a
lot
of
buildings
that
you
know
are
awful
and
we
need
to
invest
in
that.
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
comment
so
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
get
some
of
the
maintenance
in
some
of
these
buildings
where
we're
having
issues
with
resolve,
because
to
me
that's
a
priority
as
well.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
Second,
other
speakers-
okay.
Well,
if
not
I,
just
want
to
say
a
word
or
two
on
this
and
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
all
the
staff
and
to
the
other
people
at
Toronto.
Community
Housing,
of
course,
have
been
very
involved
in
these
discussions
as
well,
but
the
staff
have
done
a
lot
of
work
and
I'll
leave
it
for
others
to
judge
whether
the
task
has
been
completed.
The
thing
about
these
things
to
the
to
the
deputy
city
managers,
who
Anna
they're,
never
really
complete.
A
That
is
effectively
produced
by
this.
This
new
formula,
which
means
effectively
again
a
doubling
but
I,
don't
think
that's
really
the
most
significant
element
and
the
deputy
mayor
by
Lao
spoke
to
this
and
I
guess.
I
say
it
in
response
to
those
they've
been
many
trees
sacrificed
to
write
up
the
fact
that
the
city
has
not
taken
up
its
responsibility
seriously
and
I
would
just
say,
take
you
back
perhaps
to
the
beginning
of
this
administration.
A
When
I
came
to
this
office,
we
were
sitting
here
in
this
very
room
having
a
lot
of
discussion
about
units
that
were
closed,
that
we're
going
to
be
closed,
that
we're
going
to
have
to
be
demolished
because
we
were
not
prepared
to
put
up
them
to
fix
them.
We
were
not
getting
any
support
from
the
other
governments
at
that
time,
and
that
was
just
four
years
ago.
There
was
really
no
money
coming
of
any
substance
from
the
other
governments,
a
tiny
little
bit
from
some
mortgage
refinancing
from
the
feds
and
I.
A
Don't
even
think,
we'd
seen
the
beginnings
yet
of
any
money
coming
from
the
province,
which
was
given
through
green
infrastructure
programs
and
then
disappeared
as
fast
as
it
as
in
a
row
as
it
arose
in
the
city
itself,
committed
only
to
the
extent
on
both
operating
and
capital
that
it
had
based
on
an
old
funding
formula
that
that
deputy
mayor
viola
described
quite
well
and
that
the
staff
described
quite
well.
And
so
here
we
are
today
on
the
Virgin
I
think.
A
That
is
why
it
is
important
to
take
note
of
this
in
the
context
of
how
important
a
decision.
This
is
because
the
more
important
part
isn't
the
dollars.
They're
important.
The
more
important
part
is,
as
was
said,
the
acceptance
of
responsibility
for
this,
and
that
now
we're
going
to
have
to
factor
this
in
as
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
us
do
into
our
own
annual
budget
process
each
year.
But
I
want
to
just
make
one
point
with
respect
to
the
question
of
uplift
and
so
on.
A
That
was
made
quite
properly
by
councillor
Carroll,
and
that
is
what
this
does
not
say
is
that
the
other
governments
are
absolved
of
their
responsibility
to
be
partners
with
us
in
this
and
I'm
pleased
at
the
fact
that
during
this
administration,
the
federal
government
has
stepped
up
and
has
accepted
some
degree
of
responsibility.
That
was
a
good
start.
A
I
we've
had
we've
had
not
had
such
success
as
yet
with
the
provincial
government,
but
if
we're
gonna
get
the
uplift,
it
is
never
going
to
have
well,
I
won't
say
never,
but
it
is
gonna
take
longer
and
it's
harder
for
it
to
happen.
If
it's
the
sole
responsibility
of
the
city
and
what
I
don't
want
this
to
be
seen
by
those
other
governments
as
representing
as
us
just
saying,
well,
you're
off
the
hook,
we're
gonna
forever
in
a
day
take
sole
responsibility
for
this,
because
that
never
should
have
been
the
case.
A
A
That
does
not
mean
it
should
not
mean
it
cannot
mean,
and
it
must
not
mean
that
we're
letting
them
off
the
hook
that
that
decision
done.
The
way
it
was
without
any
ongoing
support
for
capital
was
wrong
then,
and
it's
still
wrong,
and
we
have
to
rectify
that,
and
if
we
can
make
some
progress
on
the
operating
side,
then
that
has
to
be
added
to
the
list.
The
uplift
that
councillor
Carroll
referred
to
is
absolutely
correct
and
we
have
to
focus
on
it
and
I'm.
A
Also
I,
like
her
will
be
very
focused
on
the
annual
sort
of
review
that
we've
said
will
take
place
here
to
make
sure
that
what's
putting
in
place
here
being
put
in
place
here
is
adequate,
but
I
just
think
it's
a
huge
step
forward
to
have
something
put
in
place.
That
guides
us
to
a
number
that
each
year
you
know
will
be
something
that
we
know
is
our
responsibility
and
that
we'll
do
everything
we
can
to
get
others
to
help
us
with
it.
A
So
I
do
want
to
again
thank
the
staff
for
that
and
I
think
I
wanted
to
speak.
Just
to
underline
you
know
what
a
very
important
day
this
is
and
I
think
it
is
not
just
an
important
day
for
the
tenants
of
Toronto
Community
Housing
for
the
company
itself,
but
also
it
is
really
very
much
a
part
of
what
we're
about
to
discuss
next,
which
is
the
poverty
reduction
plan,
because
these
are
some
of
our
most
vulnerable
citizens
in
the
city.
So
thank
you
for
your
attention
and
I.
A
Think
if
much
just
anybody
else
has
anything
to
say
we're
ready
to
call
the
question
on
this,
and
we
have
first,
we
have
a
in
front
of
us
from
where
did
I
put
it
now.
Do
you
have
it
to
put
up
in
the
screen
there
we're
motion
from
deputy
mayor
bylaw
to
amend,
recommendation
1
and
if
there's
no
further
discussion
on
that
I'll
call
the
question
on
the
amendment.
A
A
A
That
would
then
bring
us
back
to
item
10.1
on
the
agenda,
which
is
the
e
x
10.1,
which
is
the
toronto
poverty
reduction
strategy
2019
to
2022
action
plan.
We
have,
let's
see
two
four:
we
about
15
15,
the
deputies
and
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
read
out
three
at
a
time,
so
people
can
kind
of
be
ready
to
come
and
take
their
place
when
it's
their
turn
and
the
first
three
are
Dan
Bingham
from
st.
Stephens
Susan
bender
from
Toronto
drop-in
network
and
Nate
nation
Chong
from
the
United
Way
Greater
Toronto.
A
A
P
Morning
merit
or
en
counselor
members.
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
opportunity.
I
hope
my
life
story
can
help
expediate
and
and
allow
the
council
to
move
on
this
next
option
as
quickly
as
possible.
My
name
is
Daniel
Bingham
I
am
a
part
of
a
group
called
Mac.
The
member
Advocacy
Committee
is
a
group
of
people
with
lived
experience
of
poverty,
drug
use,
homelessness
and
disability,
and
more
we
advocate
for
a
positive
social
change.
P
P
Part
of
my
story
started
six
years
ago
when
I
almost
died
from
severe
depression
and
acute
alcohol
poisoning.
I
was
living
in
an
apartment
that
had
bedbugs
cockroaches
and
rats.
I
was
year
and
1/2
behind
and
rent
I
was
tired
from
the
struggle
to
go
on
I
drank
for
three
weeks
without
eating,
I
went
from
170
pounds
to
122.
I
was
almost
gone
for
the
next
three
years,
with
the
support
of
Au
w1
detox
center
to
sober
houses,
Oasis
services,
Canterbury
clinic
Saint,
Michael's
day
program,
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
my
family.
P
All
of
which
I
feel
would
not
have
been
I
would
not
have
been
able
to
participate
in
if
not
on
the
first
of
every
month,
I
had
not
been
in
the
position
to
buy
a
Metro
pass,
o
W
covered
my
housing
and
food,
and
after
I
got
my
pass.
I
had
about
enough
to
cover
my
coffee.
For
the
month.
The
pass
gave
me
the
ability
to
take
training
to
find
work
which
led
to
a
one-year
contract
at
the
Massey
Center
for
women.
P
This
pass
allowed
me
to
volunteer
at
many
places,
including
the
Church
of
the
Redeemer,
where
I
cooked
for
two
days
a
week
for
people
in
greater
need
to
myself.
The
pass
gave
me
the
mobility
to
create
and
sit
on
the
board
of
directors
for
a
nonprofit
that
provided
assistance
for
women
and
children
suffering
from
abuse.
It
was
called
the
Phoenix
project.
P
The
pass
made
it
possible
to
go
to
six
recovery
meetings.
A
week
and
to
give
back
by
serving
on
the
executive
committee
of
AAA
for
the
Greater
Toronto
area
for
over
three
years,
I
am
now
moving
ahead
by
starting
my
own
renovation
business
and
serving
on
two
condo
board
of
directors
for
the
village
by
the
Grange
vice-president
of
one
and
chief
signing
officer
of
the
other
in
the
past,
I've
trained
successfully
to
be
a
peer
support
worker
and
worked
at
dropping
that
also
included
a
safe
injection
site
at
the
st.
P
P
They
in
turn
could
be
in
the
position
to
strong
enough
to
help.
Others.
I
am
proof
that
this
is
possible
PS
I'm.
Also
now
gage
is
the
most
wonderful
woman
I
ever
met.
Thank
you
again
for
this
opportunity
and
service
Daniel
R
Bingham,
and
the
way
that
I
was
able
to
make
this
is
last
week,
I
took
training
from
progress
Toronto
on
how
to
make
a
deputation
to
the
city.
So
moving
on
up
thing,.
A
N
P
Pass
I
gotta
tell
you
I'm
shooting
for
free,
because
you
know
as
long
as
was
when
I
had
the
Metro
pass
in
my
pocket.
I
didn't
have
to
think
about
whether
I
could
make
a
job
interview
or
I
could
or
I
could
go
to
things
opportunities.
Don't
always
come
up
as
scheduled
right
and
sometimes
you
need
to
take
advantage
of
them,
and
you
can't
allow
not
having
the
the
fare
to
get
to
these
opportunities
to
hold
you
back
from
being
able
to
do
those
things.
P
Q
P
G
P
Program,
I
could
see
that
it's
going
to
be
problematic
because
I've
heard
stories
about
people
using
their
metro
pass
and
they
only
load
on
a
couple
of
fares
and
on
that
and
if
there's
some
kind
of
computer
glitch
or
it's
not
being
read
properly,
sometimes
they're
being
charged
for
a
fare
that
they
weren't
able
to
use
and
then
when
they
try
to
go
for
recourse
on
it.
They
they're
they're,
stymied,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
people,
don't
have
the
wherewithal
to
fight
for
themselves
and
to
actually
express
that
they're
having
difficulties
with
it.
P
A
L
D
Thanks
good
morning,
mayor
and
city
councillors,
there's
really
so
much
to
celebrate
in
the
poverty
reduction
strategy.
Action
plan
and
I
really
commend
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
office
staff
in
all
the
City
Department,
who
have
worked
so
hard
and
committed
to
the
principles
of
reducing
poverty.
D
So
what
residents
of
Toronto
got
was
a
fair
pass
program
and
the
fair,
fair
coalition
did
a
lot
of
work
to
promote
it,
to
make
sure
that
people
knew
about
it.
We
supported
drop-in
participants
to
help
other
people
apply
for
it.
We
ran
little
clinics
and
we
also
encourage
people
to
push
for
more
for
a
more
effective
program.
D
So
first
people
told
us
that
the
cost
of
fares
is
still
an
issue.
57%
of
the
participants
of
our
survey
indicated
that
the
discount
was
not
cheap
enough
for
them,
so
people
said
I
like
it,
because
it's
affordable
and
one
can
load
in
coins.
Another
person
said
it's
all
about.
Cost
is
very
expensive
to
use
the
fare,
pass.
I
really
hope
they
keep
the
discount
fare
program.
D
It
would
be
really
nice
if
they
reduce
the
monthly
fare
to
$50,
because
115
is
still
too
much
and
finally
I
feel
more
involved
in
getting
out
being
diabetic
is
a
good
way
to
travel
at
a
lot.
It's
a
good
way
to
travel
at
a
lower
cost.
The
problem
here
is
I
need
it
to
be
covered
by
ODB
ODSP
and
not
to
use
my
special
diet.
Money
I
need
to
go
to
a
few
banks.
I
need
to
go
to
shopping,
for
groceries.
I
need
to
go
to
do.
D
Errands
I
need
to
go
to
the
doctor's
office.
It's
not
a
surprise
that
the
transit
fare,
equity
evaluation
found
that
many
people
receiving
o/w
are
not
using
their
fair
pass
and
fewer
them
are
using
the
fair
pass
compared
to
people
receiving
ODSP.
That's
because
you
have
a
maximum
of
three
hundred
and
forty
three
dollars
a
month
as
discretionary
or
flexible
funding
to
cover
all
your
basic
needs
and
clearly
it
doesn't.
Secondly,
people
who
could
really
use
the
fair
pass
are
still
not
getting
it.
D
People
who
aren't
receiving
Ontario,
Works
or
ODSP
or
childcare
subsidy
someone's
said
to
us
since
I'm,
not
in
OWR
in
ODSP
I'm,
not
able
to
get
the
fair
pass,
though
I
am
still
considered
low
income.
It
would
be
great
if
they
offered
the
pass
to
all
low-income
families,
rather
than
just
those
on
owo
days.
Sp
I
work,
but
the
price
of
transportation
is
still
very
high.
D
So
I
really
urge
this
committee
and
city
council
to
fully
commit
the
City
of
Toronto
to
achieving
transit
equity,
and
that
would
mean
rolling
the
fair
pass
out
fair
pass
program
out.
According
to
the
original
timeline,
I'm
fully
funding
the
fair
pass
program
in
this
budget
next
budget
or
the
next
budget
or
the
next
budget,
there's
no
guarantee
there's
going
to
be
more
funding.
D
So
just
do
it
now
and,
more
importantly,
as
other
speakers
have
spoken
to
free
transit
for
people
who
are
receiving
social
assistance,
given
that
there
is
no
money
in
the
basic
needs
allowance
for
folks,
and
they
have
to
make
all
sorts
of
different
kinds
of
decisions
to
be
able
to
get
to
where
they
need
to
go.
I'll.
D
A
A
D
Well,
we
heard
a
lot
of
barriers
to
applying
some
people
didn't
know
about
it
and
it
was
kind
of
dependent
on
their
relationship
with
their
owo
DSP
worker,
which
for
some
people
they
don't
have
a
lot
of
contact
or
it's
not
positive
contact
people
are
afraid
of
the
Presto
technology
because
of
the
glitches-
and
we
know,
people
who
who
are
coming
to
drop
ins,
for
example,
are
far
more
likely
to
be
challenged
by
transit
enforcement
officer
if
their
car
doesn't
work.
So
there's
a
lot
of
kind
of
Education
and
Trust
building.
D
A
R
Morning,
mr.
mayor
members
of
the
Executive
Council
again,
my
name
is
nation
Chung
vice
president
of
community
opportunities,
mobilization,
a
United
Way
Greater
Toronto,
and
we
are
pleased
to
have
the
opportunity
to
express
our
support
for
the
Toronto
poverty
reduction
strategy,
action
plan,
2019
to
2022
off
the
top
I'd,
like
a
recognition
of
council,
anthony
parousia,
his
leadership
and
the
excellent
work
of
the
staff,
and
thank
you
for
the
work
that's
been
brought
forward.
This
strategy's
cross-divisional
approach
to
city
building
is
necessary
and
important.
R
Comprehensive
corporate
ownership
of
the
plan
is
critical
to
addressing
the
interconnected
systemic
issues
related
to
poverty,
including,
but
not
limited
to
the
urgent
need
for
affordable
housing,
liveable
incomes
and
essential
community
service,
which
enable
individuals
and
families
to
meet
their
needs
and
access
opportunities
for
the
future
as
a
need
for
support
continues
to
grow
in
our
great
city.
We
are
encouraged
by
this
renewed
action
plan,
as
noted
by
the
city,
one
in
four
children
and
one
in
five
adults
continue
to
live
in
poverty.
R
Increasingly,
residents
of
Toronto
are
finding
it
challenging
to
secure
and
maintain
affordable
housing,
obtain
jobs
and
provide
livable
income
that
provide
level
incomes
and
connect
with
needed
services.
Some
groups
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
poverty.
Our
research
on
the
growing
income
gap
found
that
average
incomes
of
young
adults,
immigrants
and
racialized
groups
in
2015
were
either
the
same
or
lower
than
their
average
incomes
in
1980
and
that
pay
gaps
continued
between
men
and
women.
This
is
not
news
to
anyone.
R
We
will
continue
to
work
alongside
our
city
colleagues
to
address
these
gaps
and
applaud
the
city's
targeted
interventions
such
as
gender
based
analysis
and
the
anti
black
racism
strategy,
which
addresses
the
disproportionate
barriers
experienced
by
specific
populations
in
Toronto.
We
will
continue
to
collaborate
with
city
on
areas
of
mutual
interests
that
offer
significant
potential
benefit
for
Torontonians,
who
are
most
vulnerable
to
the
impacts
of
poverty,
and
we
are
pleased
to
see
these
areas
receive
continued
support
in
the
poverty
reduction
strategy.
R
For
example,
the
implemented
implementation
of
community
benefits
framework,
as
well
as
the
ongoing
support
for
construction
connections,
which
enable
more
people
facing
multiple
barriers
to
connect
to
the
labor
market.
Developing
sustainable
models
of
inclusive
economic
growth,
United
Way
is
working
with
deputy
city
manager,
Juliana
Carboni,
Mike,
Williams,
general
manager
of
economic
development
and
culture,
and
Denis
Campbell
executive
director
SDF
a
to
pilot
new
initiatives,
while
revitalizing
neighborhoods
in
a
way
that
includes
and
does
not
displace
existing
communities.
This
finish,
this
initiative
called
inclusive
local
economics.
R
Economic
opportunities
is
working
with
private
sector
leaders,
uncoordinated
strategic
and
multi-sector
planning
and
investment.
This
kind
of
innovative
thinking
and
cross
sector
partnerships
exemplify
how
leaders
in
the
private,
public
and
community
service
sector
can
come
together
to
build
inclusive
communities,
creating
employment
opportunities
for
low-income
groups,
precarious
or
insecure
employment
has
become
imprinted
on
our
labour
market,
with
almost
40
percent
of
working-age
adults
in
the
GTHA
working
in
some
degree
of
precarious
employment.
R
At
the
same
time,
young
people
are
facing
multiple
barriers
to
connecting
with
the
labor
market
and
need
wraparound
supports,
Career,
Pathways
and
networking
opportunities.
Ongoing
support
is
needed
for
successful
initiatives
like
the
Muslim
youth,
fellowship
and
cities
pay
program
to
get
more
diverse,
young
people
employed
through
the
city.
Also,
we
would
urge
the
city
to
continue
its
leadership
in
increasing
community
based
investment.
Hiring
and
purchasing
social
procurement
is
embedded
in
the
city's
community
benefits
framework
and
will
help
small
businesses
with
social
purpose
to
become
part
of
the
city's
success.
R
The
United
Way
in
the
city
have
a
history
of
supporting
such
businesses
through
the
Toronto
enterprise
fund,
and
we
encourage
you
to
look
at
expanding
that
support
through
an
enhanced
social
procurement
policy.
Finally,
an
equally
important
given
the
two
speakers
who
were
before
me.
We
are
encouraged
by
the
city
of
Toronto's
commitment
to
continuous
engagement
of
community
leaders,
individuals
that
lived
experience
and
indigenous
communities
as
partners
and
advisors
in
meeting
the
goals
of
the
poverty
reduction
strategy.
A
N
The
the
actions
and
activities
in
the
report
are
expressed
at
a
fairly
high
level
with
with
not
a
lot
of
detail.
The
initial
consultation
seem
to
suggest
much
more
concrete
actions.
I
have
been
told
by
staff
that
they
don't
actually
intend
that
as
excluding
those
more
concrete
actions,
they
see
them
as
falling
under
the
categories
that
are
listed,
but
I
just
want
to
remind
you
of
some
of
the
the
items
that
I
think
need
to
be
represented
in
terms
of
the
actual
implementation
and
that
they
should
not
be
forgotten
just
because
they
weren't
explicitly
mentioned.
N
N
It's
listed
under
a
sort
of
an
equity
section
or
or
providing
work
to
poor
people,
I
see
it
more
as
belonging
under
Section
13,
which
is
the
general
economic
growth
and
prosperity
section,
in
other
words,
specifically
the
the
issue
of
reducing
unnecessary
educational
in
in
City
job
descriptions
that
will
not
just
help
specific
groups
of
people.
It
will
help
the
entire
economy
by
getting
people
spending
more
time,
working
and
less
time
training
to
work.
N
So
it's
it's
actually
a
general
prosperity
initiative
and
I
hope
that
that
section
on
city
hiring
practice
will
be
seen
in
that
context
as
prosperity
not
just
sort
of
help
to
poor
people
and
I
hope
that
it
will
also
definitely
include
some
of
those
specific
aspects
such
as
removing
unnecessary
educational
requirements
from
job
descriptions.
I
also
want
to
comment
on
the
consultation
and
evaluation
processes.
It's
a
good
thing
that
many
different
types
of
groups
were
mentioned:
advocacy
groups,
community
groups,
organizations
of
various
different
types
and,
and
so
I
hope.
N
That
means
we're
not
just
limiting
the
consultation,
as
was
the
case
in
the
first
couple
of
phases.
It
seemed
to
be
limited
only
to
extremely
large
charities
and
to
poor
people
themselves.
The
vast
range
of
community
groups
and
advocacy
groups,
and
even
businesses
were
really
left
out
of
that
process.
I
hope
that
that
will
change
now
they
are
mentioned,
so
that's
good,
but
what
I
don't
see
yet
is
they're
mentioned
mostly
in
the
context
of
forums
and
consultations.
N
I
want
to
see
a
permanent
advisory
committee
that
involves
the
community
groups,
the
advocacy
groups,
the
businesses
and
not
just
the
large
organizations.
A
couple
of
other
points,
just
to
emphasize
the
issue
of
of
poverty
itself,
is
described
in
the
report,
mainly
as
only
being
about
differences
between
people
who
have
less
and
who
have
more
I
think
we
also
need
to
see
it
as
an
overall
decline
in
the
economy.
N
So
there
needs
to
be
more
of
an
understanding
that
there
is
an
actual
threat
to
prosperity
as
a
whole
in
the
economy,
and
it's
not
just
a
matter
of
some
people
not
having
as
much
as
we
would
like
it's
a
matter
of
everybody
not
having
as
much
as
we
would
like,
and
that
should
be
the
context
of
how
the
overall
issue
of
poverty
and
prosperity
is
understood.
And
my
last
final
point
is
just
on
the
one
issue
related
to
transit,
which
is
the
transferable
fares,
which
is
a
totally
separate
issue
from
the
reduced
fares.
N
The
transferable
fares
are
essentially
built
into
the
existing
system,
because
tokens
and
tickets
are
automatically
transferable,
but
they
are
going
to
have
to
come
up
with
a
replacement.
For
that.
As
you
know,
transferable
fares
are
not
even
about
the
price.
The
price
is
exactly
the
same
as
the
ordinary
fare.
The
problem
is
that
there
are
technical
difficulties.
They
need
to
solve
a
few
problems
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
that
those
problems
have
to
be
solved.
They
need
to
have
a
separate
seniors
ticket
type
which
they
do
not
currently
have.
N
That
could
be
as
simple
as
a
separate
serial
number
range,
but
they
need
to
be
able
to
identify
tickets
as
being
either
add
adult
fares
or
discounted
fares,
so
that
you
can
actually
make
them
available
to
all
community
groups
and
not
have
to
worry
about
the
the
distribution
of
them.
So
you
need
to
solve
those
those
problems
and
make
sure
that
transferable
fairs
because
transferable
fares,
although
an
organization
pays
the
full
fare
on
them,
the
person
who
receives
them
pays
zero.
N
So
this
is
an
even
better
way
than
the
discount
fares
for
those
particular
organizations
and
the
particular
people
who
are
receiving
them,
and
you
need
to
make
sure
that
this
is
understood
that
the
purpose
of
the
replacement
for
the
tickets
and
tokens
is
the
transferability,
and
that
includes
the
seniors
as
a
distinct
lower
price
fare.
So
you
must
solve
that
problem.
It's
a
distinct
and
separate
problem
and
it
has
to
be
solved.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
N
With
the
existing
tickets
and
tokens,
one
person
can
pay
for
them,
and
another
person
can
use
them
and
that's
done
in
many
different
organizations
and
groups
that
give
them
out.
It's
not
just
done
for
like
strictly
charitable
purposes.
It's
done
for
events,
it's
done
for
advocacy
groups,
it's
even
businesses,
give
them
to
their
customers
or
employees
to
run
errands.
So
right
now,
I
mean
this
is
a
fairly
long
and
complicated
matter.
But
right
now
the
the
certain
aspects
of
the
problem
have
been
solved
in
certain
aspects
of
not
being
solved.
N
So
the
the
Presto
has
produced
a
physical
object
called
the
ticket,
but
the
problem
is
the
TTC
cannot
use
it
for
the
purposes
on
describing
effectively
they're
using
it
for
a
different
purpose,
which
is
completely
unrelated
they're,
using
it
to
replace
cash
fares
at
the
stations
where
people
that
they're
no
longer
they're
going
to
have
collectors
that's
irrelevant
and
unrelated.
In
order
to
be
able
to
use
those
tickets
as
a
transferable
fare,
a
totally
different
solution
is
needed,
which
is
which
is
easy
to
implement.
N
A
S
O
A
S
S
Many
people
often
often
forget
how
inaccessible
the
TTC
is
for
some
people,
due
to
the
increasingly
rising
costs.
Not
only
is
the
TTC
now
inaccessible
for
a
large
group
of
people,
including
the
homeless
and
low-income
populations.
It
also
isn't
providing
services
or
resources
to
help
combat
this
reality
of
inaccessibility.
Now,
let's
dig
deeper
and
figure
out
as
to
why
this
is
so
crucial
to
draw
attention
to,
for
all
of
us,
with
TTC
prices
rising
higher
than
inflation
in
the
last
decade,
with
poverty
ever
so
prevalent
in
Toronto.
S
It
is
key
that
we
have
infrastructure
that
is
accessible
and
comprehensive
of
all
needs
for
all
populations,
with
the
TTC
expected
to
recomm
recommend
a
fare
increase
in
2020.
The
City
Council
must
move
quickly
to
implement
the
fare
pass
as
soon
as
possible
from
in
all
stages
for
all
eligible
people
introduce
deeper
discounts.
S
You
may
have
heard
of
the
unning
normal
tower
online
lately
presented
by
the
United
Way,
which
expresses
the
amount
of
poverty
and
homelessness
that
is
still
prevalent
in
our
wonderful
city
of
Toronto.
According
to
the
statistics
provided
by
the
United
Way
Toronto
is
the
poverty
capital
of
Canada,
with
one
in
seven
residents
currently
struggling
to
make
ends.
Meet
life
is
hard
enough
for
one
in
seven
and
any
efforts
to
alleviate
this
Dressen
bird
inequality
is
imperative.
S
The
fair
pass
was
improved
in
December
2016
and
is
currently
being
phased
in.
However,
27
percent
of
people
reported
that
they
still
can't
even
afford
to
use
the
fair
pass
and
it
could
be
years
before
the
fair
pass
is
fully
implemented
to
allow
all
eligible,
low-income
people
to
use
it.
We
cannot
allow
27%
of
our
community
slip
through
the
cracks,
especially
in
harsh
Canadian
winters
I'm
here
today,
with
my
peers
and
fellow
advocates
to
fight
for
a
strategy
that
allows
infrastructure,
accessibility
and
our
community
at
the
forefront.
S
The
strategy
that
we
propose
includes
some
of
the
following
action
plans.
First
off,
we
must
create
a
system
of
access,
passes
and
fairs
that
are
geared
to
income.
A
free,
TTC
pass
should
be
given
to
folks
receiving
ODSP
no
W
benefits
benefits.
This
pass
needs
to
be
free
because
any
amount
is
too
much
to
pay,
given
the
large
inability
for
the
basic
needs
allowance
to
take
care
of
actual
basic
needs.
With
this
in
place,
o
W
and
ODSP
versus
recipients
should
still
be
allowed
to
be
eligible
to
volunteer
and
have
employment
support
benefits.
S
Furthermore,
accessibility
can
be
increased
by
giving
both
discounts
to
organizations
that
purchase
TTC
tokens
for
people
who
use
public
transportation
to
access
their
programs,
services
and
referrals
social
service
agencies
that
participated
in
a
fair,
fair
coalition
survey
indicated
that
they
spent
an
average
of
fourteen
thousand
dollars
a
year,
providing
tokens
to
folks
accessing
their
services.
Demand
for
tokens
is
outstripping
supply
and
most
agencies
are
not
receiving
increased
funding.
To
deliver
on
this.
S
These
strategies
would
allow
the
one
in
seven
struggling
to
make
ends
meet
to
maybe
become
a
1
in
15
or
a
1
in
20.
Nevertheless,
it
will
make
difference.
It
will
count
in
the
lives
of
so
many
individuals
publiced
make
the
unendurable
tower
poverty
less
prevalent
in
Toronto
through
these
strategies
mentioned
previously.
Thank
you.
A
So,
are
you
completed
with
your
remarks?
Well,
thank
you
very
much.
That's
I'm!
Just
making
over
a
couple
of
questions
are
there
questions
of
the
decadence
from
others.
First
can
I
just
ask
you
a
couple
of
this.
This
is
I,
guess
really
just
more
typical
of
the
decisions
that
we
have
to
make
here
with
with
you
know,
sometimes
scarce
resources,
especially
in
the
face
of
cutbacks
and
I,
think
you're
familiar
with
that.
A
If
you're
you
know
taking
that
choice
that
we
clearly
have
in
front
of
us
to
do
it
the
one
way.
We've
started
down
on
versus
the
other
way.
That's
different
and
I
know
it's
easy
to
say:
do
both
and
I
think
we'd
like
to
do
both,
but
if
you
had
to
make
that
choice,
would
you
opt
more
in
favor
of
taking
the
groups
you
identified
that
are
on?
A
N
S
A
That
very
much
relates
to
my
second
and
final
question,
which
is
have
you?
Have
you
engaged
in
some
advocacy
in?
Would
you
agree
with
me
when
I
suggest
that
that
it
that
that
speaks
to
the
question
to
some
extent
as
much
as
it
does
to
who's,
providing
what
discount
on
transit
to
the
adequacy
of
the
social
assistance?
A
S
A
Those
for
my
questions,
anybody
else
have
any
questions.
Alright,
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
today.
Much
appreciate
it.
Then
we
have
Seana
pepper
york,
university,
susan
gap,
katrana
trans
Coalition
and
Michelle
Danny,
no
Jane
Finch,
community
and
Family
Center.
Those
are
the
next
three,
so
Shauna
Tepper
is
next
good.
O
O
That
would
come
up
on
a
regular
basis
that
numbers
growing
to
about
60
over
the
last
two
years
and
so
to
the
credit
of
our
Community
Safety
Unit.
Our
staff
are
trying
to
respond
to
the
needs
of
these
individuals
and
give
them
support
and
referral
services
as
much
as
possible
and
they've
even
engaged
our
faculty
of
health
to
have
nursing
students
do
their
placements
with
them.
O
So
they
can
try
to
offer
some
immediate
health
services,
and
about
six
months
ago
we
convened
a
larger
group
to
try
to
respond
to
this
issue,
including
council
fruits
as
office,
which
has
been
incredibly
engaged
and
responsive
to
to
our
requests
to
come
and
help,
and
we've
also
been
reaching
out
to
local
community
organizations.
Although
none
of
them
have
a
particular
mandate
to
work
with
people
living
in
homelessness.
O
And
finally,
we've
also
been
asking
the
streets
to
home
staff
to
come
up,
and
while
they
continue
to
come
up
to
our
campus
as
often
as
possible,
we
know
they're
stretched
thin
in
terms
of
their
own
resources,
so
everyone's
doing
the
best
that
they
can
in
an
area
of
the
city.
That
really
doesn't
have
the
infrastructure
or
the
resources
to
respond
to
homelessness.
And
we
know
we're
far
from
unique
in
this
particular
context
and
that
the
city
alone
can't
respond
to
an
issue
is
massive
and
complex
as
homelessness,
specifically
or
poverty
more
generally.
O
But
what
the
city
can
do
and
what
we're
really
pleased
to
see
highlighted
in
this
report
is
an
emphasis
on
your
role
as
a
steward,
facilitating
convening
and
establishing
partnerships
that
drive
systemic
change
as
a
university
invested
in
social
justice
and
the
public
good.
We
know
that
we
have
a
role
to
play
in
reducing
poverty
in
the
City
of
Toronto
as
well.
O
York
University
has
the
expertise
to
help
in
areas
including
the
evaluation
of
your
existing
services,
experiential
education
placements
to
support
various
areas
of
work
highlighted
throughout
the
report,
data
and
best
practices
in
the
area
of
homelessness,
and
some
of
you
may
have
spoken
with
Professor
Steven
gates
yesterday,
who
is
here
from
the
canadian
observatory
on
homelessness?
That's
housed
at
York
University,
and
we
also
have
the
ability
to
provide
support
in
the
area
of
gender
based
analysis
that
the
works
report
speaks
to.
So
I
will
close
by
echoing
the
comments
made
by
our
president,
dr.
A
Q
Q
I've
done
that
a
little
dated
but
I'm
gonna
use
hi
good
morning,
I'm
Susan
gap,
I'm,
chair
and
sort
of
co-founder
of
the
Toronto
Transco
Alishan
project
I'm.
Here
we're
here
to
support
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
our
organization,
we've
I'm
here
to
support
the
poverty
reduction
strategy,
as
is
not,
as
is
with
an
amendment
that
under
population
access
that
trans
and
non-binary
people
be
added
to
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
and
wherever
it
says
gender,
it
says
you
would
add.
Gender
identity
and
gender
expression.
Q
I
originally
brought
recommendations
to
the
strategy
when
it
was
being
developed,
especially
around
transit,
fare,
and
was
sad
to
see
that
we
didn't
become
a
specialized
group,
because
I
think
our
our
community
straily
struggles
around
poverty
and
access
to
things
like
housing
and
Income
Security,
but
I
have
been
busy
I
applied
for
the
league
poverty
reduction
group,
Advisory
Committee
and
was
shortlisted
but
not
accepted
I'm.
Sure
I
would
have
repeated
that
message
over
and
over
again
over
the
following
years.
But
a
couple
things
happened
to
me
since
then:
I
actually
got
a
job.
Q
I've
been
where
I'm
coming
I'm
in
the
spring
will
be
five
years
employed
in
casual
labour
at
the
519
community
center,
our
formerly
community
center
and
I've
gotten
active
with
my
union
QP
and
I'm
at
an
executive
level
and
making
recommendations
around
employment
around
trans
inclusion
there,
but
also
a
Toronto
trans
Coalition
project.
We
did
our
report
on
needs
assessment
and
in
there,
and
some
highlights
so
I
just
gonna,
look
at
the
time
and
be
very
cautious
of
your
time
in
our
time.
Q
Q
Q
Q
We
had
a
few
people
who
are
in
more
than
80,000
a
year,
but
they
felt
discrimination
was
still
an
issue,
so
I'm
just
gonna
go
to
the
next
slide
here
that
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
and
in
housing,
similar
outcomes.
I
know
you
identified
housing
stability
as
an
important
piece
and
23%,
an
unstable
housing,
12%
and
unsafe
and
13%
an
unhealthy
and
25%
and
I'm.
One
of
those
had
experienced
homelessness.
Q
Many
felt
the
discrimination
was
an
issue
and
the
reason
I'm
highlighting
those
two
areas,
just
in
the
short
time
I
have
today
it's
because
we've
identified
projects
we
want
to
work
on
ways
around
good
jobs
around
and
housing,
but
other
groups
are
doing
some
work
on
housing.
So
our
group
is
divided
into
some
corporate
employment
and,
of
course,
I'm
leading
the
part
on
trade
and
trade
and.
Q
Just
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
our
findings
with
you.
I
noticed
the
time
honorable
mayor
and
just
wanted
to
make
that
pitch
and
willing
to
meet
with
people
just
to
see.
If
there's
an
amendment
coming
forward
to
ensure
that
trans
and
non-binary
people
are
part
of
the
poverty
reduction
strategy,
so
that
we
don't
leave
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
us
asking
for
specific,
specific
seas,
but
I'm
willing
to
share
these
report
results
with
members
of
the
of
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
and
hopefully
that
we
can
all
get
a
hand
up.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
Q
T
Hi
good
morning
my
name
is
Michele
dagnine.
Oh
and
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
Jane
Finch
community
and
Family
Center.
We
are
a
social
services
agency
in
North,
West
Toronto.
We
serve
over
16,000
residents
a
year.
That's
a
number!
That's
growing.
By
about
10%
annually,
we've
had
our
offices
in
4,400
Jane,
which
is
a
Toronto
Community
Housing
building
for
40
years.
T
We
also
have
offices
in
2999
Jane,
which
is
another
Toronto
Community
Housing
building,
as
well
as
our
early
on
space
at
your
gate,
mall
and
our
youth
drop-in
space
at
the
Jane
Finch
mall.
We
recently
embarked
on
a
large
capital
renovation
to
our
earlier
space
and
expanded
our
footprint
in
part
in
response
to
the
constantly
growing
need
for
our
services,
but
also
in
response
to
the
difficulty
we
are
having
in
providing
services
directly
in
TCH
buildings,
which
was
our
operating
model
for
over
30
years.
In
the
last
two
years.
T
Yet
this
work
across
most
social
social
agencies
in
this
city
is
done
with
very
little
city
financial
support
from
a
financial
resources
perspective,
the
Jane
Finch
Center
receives
approximately
125,000
dollars
a
year
out
of
a
four
million
dollar
budget.
We
last
received
an
increase
approximately
fifteen
years
ago.
The
city's
reporting
mechanism
is
as
owner
as
as
funders
that
provide
us
with
three
times
the
amount
of
funding
when
the
earlier
funding
moved
to
Children's
Services
at
the
city,
the
reporting
structures
increased
fivefold
from
the
reporting
structures
existed
for
12
years
prior
with
the
province.
T
The
work
of
the
city
in
my
caution
with
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
that
has
no
financial
resources
attached
to
it,
is
to
not
have
an
increase,
reporting
and
other
bureaucratic
requirements
on
already
overstretched
city
staff
and
agencies,
without
any
teeth
to
see
on
the
ground
impact,
we
do
not
need
for
the
reports
commissioned.
We
do
need
the
city
to
partner
effectively
with
those
of
us
who
are
on
the
ground
during
the
work
daily.
T
The
city
is
divided
amongst
those
who
have
and
have
not,
that
divide
is
getting
bigger,
and
everyone
here
knows
that
Jane
and
Finch
has
been
your
city's
most
impoverished
neighborhood
for
over
40
years.
It
is
also
the
neighborhood
in
the
city
with
amongst
the
highest
population
of
soul,
support
parents,
renter
households
and
racialized
people
gun
and
gang
violence
is
not
a
policing
issue
without
addressing
anti
black
racism
and
class
discrimination.
These
bullets
will
continue
to
fly.
Jane
and
Finch
cannot
belong
to
those
of
us
who
choose
to
work
and
live
there
alone.
T
It
belongs
to
all
of
us
who
see
ourselves
as
citizens
of
Toronto
the
gun,
violence
we
have
seen
in
this
city.
In
this
latter,
half
of
the
year
is
directly
connected
to
the
lack
of
economic
opportunity
for
young
people
living
in
Jane
and
Finch.
The
success
of
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
as
it
currently
stands
will
rely
heavily
on
the
work
of
social
service
agencies
like
the
Jane
Finch
Centre,
to
provide
the
supports
that
keep
families
with
food
to
make
it
through
the
month
and
care
for
their
children
to
make
it
safely
through
the
evening.
T
A
H
T
I
think
partnerships
I
think
agencies
at
the
frontline
level
are
very
good.
Partnering
we've
had
to
partner
from
a
resource
perspective
and
in
terms
of
making
our
collaborations
more
successful.
I
think
the
city
should
see
itself
as
part
of
those
partnerships
and
incorporate
itself
into
already
existing
collaborative
rather
than
developing
new
or
duplicate
efforts.
T
I
think
the
city
often
comes
in
and
tries
to
start
something
that
already
exists
in
the
community
and
I
think
there
is
a
disconnect
between
how
the
city
sees
its
role
in
social
services
and
how
agencies
see
our
role
in
social
services
and
without
the
city
having
a
better
connection
and
relationships
with
front
and
line
agencies.
There's
going
to
continue
to
be
a
duplication
of
I
would
say
efforts
more
than
money
because
it's
it's
you
know
from
a
resource
perspective.
H
So
so
what
you're
suggesting
is
that
perhaps
we
should
be
looking
at
sort
of
in
a
more
focused
way
in
a
narrower
way,
so
how
would
local
agencies
work
on
the
fair
tie,
a
fair
pass,
a
system?
How
would
you
help
out
in
that?
How
would
we
be
able
to
better
partner
with
you
to,
for
example,
deliver
that
program
just
to
try
to
understand
it?
So.
T
You
know
I
think
it
was
interesting
about
what
you
have
heard
today.
Is
you
hear
all
of
these
agencies
resident
groups
already
working
together
on
the
soon
have
been
working
together
on
it
for
a
number
of
years?
I
think
the
city's
role
is
really
to
go
back
to
agencies
and
ask
what
that
what
then
the
implementation
of
this
work
looks
like,
because
what
is
often
happening
is
the
city
is
implementing
a
model.
T
There
is
feedback
from
a
community
engagement
perspective
that
that
model
doesn't
work,
and
then
the
city
goes
back
and
changes
it
after
the
fact.
So
I
think
what
is
what
is
challenged
in
the
process?
Is
that
a
lot
of
times
the
processes
are
happening
from
a
city
perspective
prior
to
engagement,
and
it's
not
that
engagement
needs
to
look
like
a
budget
that
has
you
reaching
out
to
thousands
of
people.
The
the
agency
is
what
we
can
offer
is
that
expertise
around
what
our
residents
need.
H
Okay,
so
I
guess
what
I
didn't
hear
from
you.
Let
me
ask
the
question,
because
I'm
trying
to
sort
of
wrap
my
head
around
that,
so
what
I
didn't
hear
from
you
was
when
you
look
at
the
the
report
and
you
look
at
the
the
action
items
in
the
report
and
some
of
them
are,
you
know,
sort
of
you
know
meander
into
that
territory,
that
that
you're
already
working
on
I
understand
that
I
get
that.
H
T
Know
I'm
very
supportive
of
the
strategy.
I
think
the
strategy's
excellent.
My
concern
is,
is
that
it
becomes
another
tool
for
us
to
report
on
rather
than
a
tool
to
actually
help
us.
Do
our
work
better,
and
that
has
been
my
experience
with
you
know,
20
years
of
working
in
social
services,
that
a
lot
of
what
have
been
very
good
strategies
on
the
outset
become
another
layer
of
bureaucracy
rather
than
a
way
of
us
supporting
better
work.
T
G
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr.
mayor
from
from
a
policy
and
funding
and
strategy
approach,
do
you
think
more
money
should
be
put
into
preventing
families
or
individuals
from
sliding
into
poverty
or
helping
people
who
are
already
in
poverty,
for
a
soft
landing
or
to
get
them
out
of
poverty?
Or
do
you
see
that,
as
as
the
same
kind
of
the
same
policy
and
funding
approach,
I.
T
T
There
are,
there
are
a
number
of
steps
before
that
before
that
happens,
and
before
a
young
person
gets
to
that
point.
So,
yes,
we
need
to
support
in
a
lot
of
our
work.
Is
you
know?
I
talked
about
sort
of
band-aid.
Solutions
is
trying
to
get
people.
You
know
connected
to
our
food
bank
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
they
have
enough
food
for
the
week
that
that
matters
to
people
currently
living
in
poverty.
T
G
One
thing:
that's
absent
from
this:
that's
out
of
our
jurisdiction
is
the
public
education
system,
particularly
in
illa.
In
elementary,
do
you
think
massive
resources
into
early
education
and
early
childhood
interventions
is
really
the
key
to
preventing
I
you've
mentioned
gun,
gun
violence,
gang
violence
or
sort
of
a
generational
flow
into
poverty?
Is
that
really
the
key?
The.
T
Goal
around
early
childhood
into
intervention
really
is
to
support.
Families
right
is
to
support
parents
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
skills
to
support
their
kids,
to
be
healthy,
successful
young
adults
one
day
and
for
the
families
that
we
serve.
They
have
so
many
challenges
on
a
day
to
day
basis,
whether
it
be
around
accessing
transportation,
whether
it
be
about
accessing
stable
housing,
whether
it
be
domestic
violence
in
the
home
that
the
support
to
their
children
is
not
something
that
they
are
always
able
to
commit
time
to
so
yes,
I
agree.
T
There
is,
there
is
an
enormous
gap
around
those
types
of
family
resources
and
if
we
give
children
the
stable
environment,
if
we
give
them
access
to
good
adult
supports,
if
we
get
interventions
in
place
early
on,
we
see
a
number
of
children
coming
to
our
space
with
trauma.
We
see
a
number
of
our
children
coming
with
issues
of
disabilities
when
those
interventions
are
in
place
early
on,
we
can
guarantee
a
much
better
path
later
in
life.
T
A
K
Thank
you
for
your
time.
There
are
a
lot
of
worthy
laudable
goals
within
this,
so
well
done,
but
like
assisting
climate
chaos
or
averting
climate
chaos.
Pardon
me
the
vision,
zero,
a
lot
of
other
goals.
Will
it
actually
happen,
where's
the
money
to
actually
do
these
things
and
as
the
merit
oriole
it?
Yes,
it
comes
down
to
choices,
sometimes
funds
for
some
things,
not
for
others,
good,
good
programs,
good
goals,
confounder
on
the
funding
and
I,
think
we're
probably
going
to
have
a
few
more
shortfalls
looming
from
the
provincial
level
cuts.
K
So
where
is
the
money
coming
from
I?
Think
there's
a
whole
set
of
opportunities
that
could
help
must
be
applied
must
be
thought
of
at
this
point
in
time,
while
cars
are
costly
to
own
and
operate
there's
much
of
their
cost,
that's
avoided
by
the
owners
and
it's
instead
shared
by
the
broader
public
and
future
generations,
going
back
to
an
older
book,
sustainability
and
cities
by
Newman
and
Kenworthy
Road
expenditure.
K
There
was
a
suggestion
that
user
pay
for
the
cars
could
lead
to
a
40%
decrease
in
residential
property
taxes
levied
by
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
and
you
may
have
seen
this
one
as
well
I
hope
over
the
years,
because
I've
been
sharing
it
since
1996
or
so
hoping
that
we'll
pick
it
up.
This
is
from
the
globe
of
January
chance
1996.
In
an
article
on
how
you
know
there
are
hidden
costs
in
our
built
form,
a
quote
from
Ken
Cameron
from
Vancouver.
K
K
It's
a
lot
of
money,
relatively
speaking,
so
I
think
what
we
have
to
be
doing
is
going
okay,
I
think
if
we're
wanting
to
may
actually
make
these
poverty
reduction
goals
happen
in
a
good
time
frame
adjust
for
the
crises
that
are
coming
up
to
greet
us,
which
includes
this
particular
thing.
Ttc
needs
thirty
three
point:
five
billion
over
next
fifteen
years,
just
to
keep
going,
we've
got
a
lot
of
crises
that
are
coming
up
upon
us,
so
I
think
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
vehicle
registration
tax
again.
K
This
is
a
choice
that
we
could
make.
We
have
the
ability
to
actually
put
something
on
and
if
you
think
about
what
2,700
bucks
is
what
about
say,
a
thirteen
they
not
even
the
same
user
pay
as
a
TTC
fare.
How
about
say,
thirteen
percent
that
would
be
a
three
hundred
dollar
charge
per
vehicle.
That
would
raise
three
hundred
million
dollars.
I
think
to
make
it
really
it
politically
acceptable,
because
we
haven't
had
anything
for
a
while.
K
You
have
to
target
say
a
third
of
this
goes
to
the
TDC
for
the
capital
and
operating
a
third
of
it
goes
to
your
roads
and
a
third
of
it
goes
to
the
general
revenue,
including
support
for
the.
This
would
not
be
popular
in
some
quarters.
There's
no
doubt
about
it,
but
if
we
actually
had
the
pain
or
the
pain
of
the
pain
here
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
I
think
it
would
make
it
much
more
easy,
politically
acceptable
for
the
905
people
to
start
paying
tolls
on
the
gardener
and
the
DVP.
K
We
have
to
actually
really
start
to
think
about
this
sort
of
hard
choice
too.
For
the
sake
of
everybody
and
in
terms
of
where
our
mobility
is
I,
think
this
is
a
good
summation
as
well
a
graphic.
This
is
our
transit.
This
is
her
biking
waiting
for
the
transit
and
the
Carkoon
are
in
relative
space
and
comfort,
even
though
it's
a
slower
going
thing
so
I
strongly
urge
you,
if
you're,
actually
serious
about
reaching
these
laudable
goals
of
the
the
poverty
reduction
strategy.
K
You've
got
to
put
in
a
vehicle
registration
tax
to
make
sure
that
it's
funded
fund
it
now
there's
an
awful
lot
of
money
floating
around
that
isn't
that's
borne
unfairly
by
the
public,
and
it's
been
known
about
for
decades.
I
think,
although
it's
not
going
to
be
popular
to
have
it
go
on.
This
is
the
sort
of
hard
choice.
If
you're
really
serious
about
reducing
poverty,
we've
got
to
have
the
vehicle
registration
tax
and
I
would
suggest
$300
per
vehicle.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
I
I
So,
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
am
a
member
of
the
lived
experience,
advisory
group
and
within
the
capacity
of
advocacy
I,
have
contributed
my
experiences
and
expert
wee
expertise
towards
the
effective
development,
implementation
and
monitoring
of
poverty
reduction
initiatives.
We
have
provided
insight
and
feedback
on
the
City
of
Toronto
policies,
programs
and
services.
We
worked
in
proving
access
to
social
services
across
the
City
of
Toronto.
We
have
educated
and
informed
city
staff
about
the
realities
of
poverty
in
Toronto
and
the
diversity
of
experiences
of
those
struggling
with
it.
I
We
shared
information
about
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
and
the
lived
experience
of
riser
group
with
city
divisions,
the
private
sector,
community
agencies
and
residents.
We
act
as
conduits
between
communities
and
the
city
on
Poverty
Reduction
related
activities.
We
also
participated
in
the
monitoring
of
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
and
on
that
note,
I
wish
to
suggests
that
the
members
that
are
finishing
up
on
the
first
round
of
the
league
become
some
sort
of
alumni
group
to
help
mentor
new
groups
and
help
developing
some
of
the
issues.
I
So
some
members
could
also
be
moved
into
actual
positions
within
the
city.
Many
many
of
us
have
come
with
lots
of
trainings
and
education,
and
we
learned
quite
a
bit
over
the
last
few
years,
working
with
the
league
working
with
the
city,
so
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
dream
team
and
during
the
league,
one
of
our
main
themes
was
about
housing.
So
our
project
at
the
dream
team
right
now
is
called
safe
at
home,
and
this
project
was
thank
you
very
much
supported
by
a
grant
by
the
City
of
Toronto.
I
So
the
dream
team
began
work
on
the
safe
at
home
project
in
April
of
2016
using
a
community-based
participatory
research
model.
We
began
consumerization
lysing
our
project
using
some
of
the
key
terms
and
ideas
put
forward
by
crime
prevention
Ottawa
to
acknowledge
their
ongoing
advisory
support.
Our
findings
are
based
on
the
results
of
56
residential
surveys,
24
residents,
interviews,
146,
non-resident
surveys,
2
staff
interviews
and
focus
group
discussions.
We
also
conducted
two
roundtable
discussions
and
open
dialogue
through
the
city
of
Toronto's
specialised
in
divisional,
enhanced
response
spider
program.
I
Most
importantly,
however,
safe
at
home
prioritizes
the
voices
of
the
who
have
lived
through
home
unit
takeovers
themselves.
Thus,
the
findings,
themes,
analysis
and
recommendations
made
here
aim
to
bridge
in
the
classic
divides
between
systemic
actors,
like
law
enforcement
officials
and
institutional
housing
providers
on
the
one
hand,
and
vulnerable
individuals
with
lived
experience
in
setting
in
these
settings
on
the
other,
so
I'm
just
gonna.
This
is
our
report.
I
I
have
passed
the
reporter
for
you
guys
to
have
a
look
at
that
and
when
you
have
time
so
the
the
report,
the
report
is,
has
a
summary
of
fundings
and
one
of
them
is
vulnerabilities.
That
non-residents
reported
four
main
features
that
render
people
vulnerable
to
Hutt's
addiction,
95
percent,
physical
mental
health
conditions,
eighty
seven
being
a
low-income
woman
with
children,
forty
seven
percent
and
being
an
older
adult
31.9%.
I
We
did
not
require,
as
evidences
with
residents
to
rank
their
own
personal
vulnerabilities,
but
those
who
chose
to
disclose
event,
surveys
or
interviews
ranked
addiction
and
health
conditions
somewhat
evenly.
We
have
also
key
themes
which
is
around
trust
and
rapport
education
funding,
community
spaces
versus
community
in
spaces.
During
our
roundtable
we
spoke
with
patron
of
police
service
and
Toronto
Community
Housing
stakeholders.
We
learned
that
police
are
obligated
to
work
within
the
law
while
intervening
in
a
hut,
and
often
this
means
criminalizing
both
the
dealer
and
the
exploit
resident.
I
Moreover,
94%
of
non
residents
and
almost
a
hundred
percent
of
residents
reported
feeling,
as
though
law
enforcement
officials
lacked
the
tools
and
skills
required
to
manage
Hut's
effectively.
Fortunately,
law
enforcement
response
indicated
they
were
open
to
discussing
changes
in
their
policy
and
practices
in
the
field
while
handling
huts.
I
So
I
would
ask
that
you
have
a
look
at
this
report
and
we're
asking
for
further
support
with
funding
and
other
initiatives
to
continue
our
research
on
this
important
issue
of
home
unit
takeovers
and
to
continue
speaking
to
the
tenants
involved
and
the
frontline
workers
who
are
reporting
that
they
are
also
having
a
hard
time,
knowing
what
to
do
how
to
help
people
so
we're
trying
to
help
both
both
parts
with
that.
So
that's
our
ask
is
that
you
continue
working
with
us
and
give
our
reports
look
at.
We
appreciate
your
time.
I
I
A
And
for
your
service
members,
just
in
light
of
the
quorum
related
constraints
and
also
some
obligations,
people
have
different
people
for
different
things:
I'm
gonna
propose
we
take
our
lunch
break
between
12,
20
and
120,
so
that
allows
us
to
sort
of
finish
early
and
start
early
if
you're
agreeable
to
that.
So
it
still
leaves
the
same
hour
there.
But
if
we
could
do
that,
so
it
means
we
have
time
to
hear
one
more
person
and
then
we'll
have
four
left
of
decadence
after
lunch
and
then
obviously
a
discussion
of
the
in
questions
of
staff.
M
Well,
thank
you
very
much.
My
name
is
Jeanne
son
I
am
the
director
of
strategic
initiatives
at
the
Yonge
Street
mission
for
over
120
years.
Young
Street
mission
has
provided
wraparound
supports
and
services
that
make
possible
for
individuals,
families
and
communities
to
move
forward.
As
a
developmental
agency
specializing
in
poverty
related
challenges,
we
are
keenly
interested
in
dismantling
the
barriers
which
trap
people
in
poverty
as
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
office
was
launching
its
work
to
develop
the
four
year
action
plan.
Why
isn't
was
invited
to
support
the
process
in
two
ways?
M
First,
to
support
the
internal
dialogue
with
city
divisions,
to
provide
visuals
which
demonstrate
the
complexity
and
complected
connectedness
of
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
to
the
broader
system.
Secondly,
secondarily
we
were
invited
to
we
invite
a
community
input
and
voice
into
the
proposed
for
your
action
plan.
M
I'd
like
to
focus
my
time
on
that
part
of
the
work
I
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
specifically
thank
and
acknowledge
the
contributions
of
each
of
the
organization's
of
the
working
group
that
we
assembled
in
reaching
out
and
mobilizing
their
communities
to
provide
input
into
the
strategy
and
proposed
action
plan.
Although
their
contributions
are
inferred,
they
are
not
mentioned
specifically
in
the
strategy,
but
their
contribution
was
invaluable
in
this
work
and
would
not
have
been
possible
without
their
passion
and
leadership
in
their
communities.
M
This
small
working
group
assembled
included
both
grassroots
organizations
resident
leaders
and
an
agency
partner
that
led
conversations
about
the
proposed
action
plan
in
their
neighborhoods.
Therefore,
I
wanted
to
publicly
acknowledge
the
following
members:
Maitri,
a
charitable
organization
committed
to
advancing
systemic
solutions
to
poverty
and
strengthening
civic
communities
through
our
human
rights
approach,
provided
invaluable
leadership
and
support
throughout
the
entire
process.
In
Scarborough,
the
Scarborough
Civic
Action
Network
scan
worked
alongside
Agincourt
services
in
North
York,
the
Bathurst
Finch
social
Action,
Group
and
unison
worked
together
in
the
Downtown
East
friends,
helping
friends
and
poverty.
M
The
region
parks,
social
Action,
Group,
the
Dan,
Harris
community,
complex
resident
Association
and
Yonge
Street
mission
banded
together
in
the
Rexdale
area,
the
citizen,
empowerment
project
and
the
Youth
Council
led
that
process.
The
Jane
and
Jane
Finch
task
forces
of
economic
opportunities
group
and
the
Jane
Finch
community
and
Family
Center
work
together
in
that
area.
Last
but
not
least,
the
city
of
Toronto's
lived
experience
advisory
group
rounded
out
this
impressive
group
membership.
M
This
group
demonstrated
how
much
people
in
Toronto
support
a
robust
and
effective
part
of
reduction
strategy
because
of
them
we
were
able
to
collect
input
from
hundreds
of
residents
across
the
city
and
generate
some
key
findings
for
the
city
to
build
upon.
Although
I
won't
go
into
the
recommendation
included
in
our
report
to
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
office,
I
wanted
to
highlight
a
few
areas
that
that
we
heard
first
increase
the
ongoing
engagement
and
communication
strategy
in
to
empower
residents
and
local
organizations
to
interact
and
participate
in
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
on
an
ongoing
basis.
M
Second,
improve
access
to
full,
truly
affordable
housing,
including
an
increase
in
the
number
of
units
available,
as
well
as
subsidies
and
support
services
increases.
The
supply
of
funding
to
programs
like
subsidized
housing
will
help
to
connect
qualified
individuals
to
much-needed
programs
and
reduce
wait
lists
next
strengthen
transit,
both
access
and
affordability
transit
was
called
a
lifeline
linking
social
and
financial
well-being.
Improving
access
and
affordability
to
transit
for
low-income
households
will
greatly
impact
other
domains,
including
employment,
childcare,
mental
health
and
much
more
transit
is
a
high-impact
lever
affecting
multiple
domains
in
the
poverty
reduction
strategy.
M
Lastly,
the
community
is
encouraging
the
city
to
work
together
in
partnership
with
other
levels
of
government
and
public
benefit
sector
for
true
system
transformation.
Breaking
silos
within
the
city
and
working
together
with
other
divisions
was
encouraged
to
ensure
the
most
effective
strategy
and
I
wanted
to
end
by
thanking
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
office
for
all
their
work.
Many
of
the
recommendations
are
included
in
the
plan
presented
and
we
wish
to
encourage
the
executive
community
to
not
only
endorse
the
action
plan,
but
also
fully
fund
and
resource
to
address
the
issues
of
poverty
in
our
communities.