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Infrastructure and Environment Committee, meeting 19, January 11, 2021
Agenda and background materials:
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B
Good
morning
I'm
councilor
jennifer
mccalvey,
I'm
chair
of
the
infrastructure
and
environment
committee.
The
clerk
has
confirmed
that
we
have
quorum.
So
I'd
like
to
now
call
meeting
19
to
order.
Welcome
everyone
to
the
first
meeting
of
2021..
Today's
meeting
is
being
held
by
video
conference
city
staff
are
also
connecting
to
the
meeting
by
video
conference.
As
city
hall
remains
closed,
the
public
will
continue
to
participate
electronically
and
can
watch
the
meeting
streaming
live
on
youtube
at
youtube.com
toronto
city
council
live
the
clerk
staff
have
connected
all
registered
speakers
to
the
meeting
by
audio.
B
The
list
of
speakers
can
be
viewed
online
by
visiting
the
infrastructure
and
environment
committee's
page
at
toronto,
dot,
ca,
council
and
clicking
the
speakers
box.
For
today's
meeting,
I
ask
for
everyone's
patience
if
we
experience
any
delays
or
technical
problems
during
the
meeting,
the
city
clerk
has
provided
all
agenda
material
on
dot,
toronto.ca
council
and
on
cmp
the
clerk's
meeting
portal.
B
Clerk's
I.t
staff
will
be
available
to
you
remotely.
If
you
need
help
with
your
devices,
I
would
like
to
remind
staff
to
keep
their
mics
muted
and
their
videos
turned
off
unless
they
need
to
answer
questions
or
speak
to
the
committee.
This
will
make
it
easier
for
me
as
chair
and
for
those
watching
on
youtube
to
observe
members
as
they
participate
and
debate
on
debate
and
vote
on
the
items.
Members.
Please
keep
your
mic
muted.
B
Unless
you
wish
to
question
staff
or
speak
to
an
item
and
ensure
that
your
video
is
turned
on
as
part
of
each
agenda
item,
I
will
ask
members
to
raise
their
hand
or
unmute
their
mic
if
they
wish
to
question
staff
or
speak.
I
will
then
create
a
speakers
list
and
will
call
on
members
when
it's
their
turn
to
speak.
When
voting
on
an
item
or
a
motion,
I
ask
that
members
ensure
that
they
keep
their
video
on
and
raise
their
hand
to
indicate
their
vote
members.
B
I
want
to
remind
you
that
you
must
still
submit
and
approve
your
motions
by
email
staff
are
available
at
iec
toronto.ca
to
help
with
motions.
If
there
are
any
visiting
members
of
council
attending
today,
I
encourage
you
to
turn
on
your
videos
that
I
know
you
are
present
and
can
give
you
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
of
staff
or
speak.
This
will
also
assist
the
clerk
staff
to
record
attendance
for
the
meeting.
B
Although
we
are
in
different
locations
and
meeting
remotely
today.
The
committee
would
like
to
acknowledge
that
the
land
we
are
meeting
on
is
the
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
mississaugas
of
the
credit,
the
anishinaabe,
the
chippewa,
the
hodneshoni
and
the
wendap
peoples,
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
first
nations
inuit
and
metis
people.
We
also
acknowledge
that
toronto
is
covered
by
treaty
13
with
the
mississaugas
of
the
credit.
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest
under
the
municipal
conflict?
B
B
Counselor
pastor
knack
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed.
The
item
carries
members.
Our
first
item
of
business
today
is
election
of
the
vice
chair
of
the
infrastructure
environment
committee.
Are
there
any
nominations
for
vice
chair
I've?
I'm
prepared
to
nominate
counselor
pastornack
today.
Are
there
any
additional
nominations?
B
That
was
the
second
call,
I'm
calling
for
a
third
and
final
time
for
nominations.
Great
hearing,
no
further
nominations.
I
declare
that
nominations
are
now
closed
and
councillor
passanak
has
agreed
to
remain
as
vice
chair,
and
I
am
super
delighted
as
he
has
been
an
exceptional
mentor
and
friend
to
me
hearing.
No
and
after
we
welcome
counselor
passionate.
Oh,
we
need
to
vote
on
it
right.
We
need
to
vote
on
it
because
we
don't
okay,
great,
we
don't
have
to
vote
on
it.
B
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C
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E
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B
That
item
carries
item
19.3
award
of
request
for
proposal,
number
doc,
224-848-2116,
chm
hill,
canada,
limited
for
professional
services
for
detailed
design,
contract
administration
and
post
construction
services
for
the
secondary
treatment
system
upgrades
at
the
ash,
bridges
bay
treatment
plant.
Anybody
like
to
hold
this
item
would
somebody
like
to
pass
staff
recommendations.
B
Let's
try
this
again.
All
those
in
favor
all
is
opposed.
That
item
carries
item
ie
19.4
word
of
contract
number
20,
ecs
mi01tw
for
zebra
control
system
in
lake
current
monitoring
upgrades
at
the
r
l
clark,
fj
horgan
water
treatment
plants.
Anybody
like
to
hold
this
item
is
that
a
hold
or
is
that
moving
staff?
Rex
cancer
leading
staff
rex?
B
B
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B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
I
B
I
B
I
Yes,
yes,
I
would
just
one
question:
I
I
noticed
that
these
were
the.
This
is
a
fair
amount
of
road
delegated
authority
that
you're
asking
for
for
many
different
projects
and
there
for
the
ontario
line,
particularly
the
section
of
it
that
is
currently
above
ground.
Even
though
the
city's
asked
for
an
alternative,
there
are
six
bridges
there
and
many
of
them
over
a
hundred
years
old,
and
there
is
to
be
a
report.
I
J
Hi
good
morning
councillor,
I'm
gonna
need
derrick
to
to
be
able
to
answer
that
question
for
you,
because
I
believe
derek's
preparing
that
report,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
get
hold
of
him.
He
he's
not
on
the
line
at
the
moment.
I
don't
think
but
he's
on
our
our
chat
behind
the
scenes.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
get
him
on
the
line.
I
I
just
I'll
have
another
question,
and
maybe
counselor
cole
would
know
a
little
bit
more
about
this,
but
one
of
the
suggestions
that
came
from
one
of
the
bias
that
included
that's
the
eglinton
way,
which
is
very
experienced
in
road
closures.
They
had
indicated
that
everything
that
you
need
to
have
should
go
in
the
contracts
that
metrolin
metrolinx
lets
with
these
contractors
and
I'm
wondering
if
what
the
possibilities
are
here
to
include
many
prescriptive
requirements
in
any
contracts
about
road
closures
and
what
the
requirements
of
the
contractor
would
be.
F
B
B
J
So
through
the
chair,
it's
it's
ashley
again,
councillor
fletcher
good
morning,
so
so
in
terms
of
elements
to
be
included
in
metrolinx's
contracts.
Yes,
the
the
transit
expansion
office
is
as
is,
and
it
does
have
input
into
what
gets
included
in
the
metering
contracts.
In
terms
of
these,
these
permits
and
the
closures
of
lanes
and
sections
of
road
through
the
permit
process,
we
do
attach
conditions
to
those
permits,
so
that's
the
most
appropriate
way
to
ensure
cities.
J
I
I
don't
know
if
we
have
mr
toygo
on
the
line
yet,
but
according
to
just
how
the
streets
are
treated
by
the
contractor,
leaving
stuff
out
leaving
a
big
mess
that
was
indicated
by
the
bia
that
they
have
no
control
over
that
unless
that
is
prescribed
in
the
actual
contract,
and
I'm
hoping
that
at
some
point
councilor
cole
can
let
us
know
more
about
if
that's
a
good
idea
or
not.
But
is
that
possible
to
be
extremely
prescriptive
and
require
that?
I
J
Through
the
chair,
the
condition
would
relate
to
each
individual
permit
as
metrolinx,
and
the
contractor
came
in
to
try
and
secure
that
particular
lane
closure
or
that
particular
road
closure.
So
we
could
apply
a
standard
condition
which
obligates
them
as
a
condition
of
having
that
permit
to
keep
that
area
tidy.
J
I
Okay,
thank
you
maybe
mr
toegel's
there,
mr
madam
chair,
that
could
answer
that
question
about
the
report
and
the
amount
of
infrastructure
that
exists
in
that
one
kilometer
zone
of
parks,
of
six
bridges
of
two
transit
lines
and
what
the
impact
is
going
to
be
and
giving
permits
before.
We
actually
have
any
understanding
of
the
complete
impact
of
that
above
ground
section
through
you,
madam
chair.
There
we
are
trying
to.
F
I
Today
we
will
get
back
to
you
if
you
like
the
chair.
Can
I
just
suggest-
and
I'm
sorry
I
thought
this
would
be
a
quick
item,
but
it's
not
and
because
mr
toygo
is
can't
get
on
the
line,
so
I
will
suggest
then,
if
it's
okay
with
you
that
go
ahead
with
the
yonge
street
and
then
we'll
come
back
if
he's
available
I'll
I'll
stay
somehow
connected
up
when
that's
over.
Unless
I'm
in
another
meeting.
B
Okay,
thank
you
councillor
fletcher.
We
can.
We
can
certainly
hold
down
this
item
until
we
have
him
on
the
line.
I
also
want
to
point
out
to
the
committee
that
there
is
a
technical
amendment
from
staff
that
has
been
posted
on
a
cmp,
so
you
can
have
a
look
at
that
one
as
well
councillor
cole,
you
had
a
question.
B
M
I
think
I'm
chair
councillor
fletcher,
raises
a
very
important
point
because,
as
you're
putting
down
the
parameters
for
massive
infrastructure
projects,
they're
going
to
affect
so
many
neighborhoods
and
the
delegation
of
authority
here,
it
is
very
important.
I
think
what
counselor
fletcher
suggested
is
that
there
be
a
framework
within
the
agreement
with
metro
links
or
within
the
contracts
that
metrolinx
does
engage
in,
whereby
there
are
ways
of
protecting
affected
neighborhoods.
B
M
B
N
Hi
good
morning,
infrastructure
and
environment
committee
members,
and
those
of
you
who
are
participating
in
the
meeting
remotely
I'm
going
to
give
a
very
brief
presentation
to
to
clarify
the
young
tomorrow.
Environmental
assessment
study
recommendations
that
are
before
you
overall.
This
project
is
about
designing.
The
future
of
downtown
young
between
college
and
queen
street
young
tomorrow
is
about
creating
a
walkable,
economically
vibrant
and
flexible
streets,
which
will
improve
the
pedestrian
experience.
N
N
We
are
looking,
as
I
said,
to
improve
the
pedestrian
experience
for
the
majority
of
people
who
get
around
on
yonge
street
by
walking
safety
for
vulnerable
road
users
and
the
vision
serial
road
safety
action
plan
is
an
important
component
here.
The
volumes
of
pedestrians
prior
to
the
pandemic
were
at
the
point
where
even
the
existing
sidewalk
widths
could
often
not
contain
them.
So
in
terms
of
providing
separate
space
for
pedestrians
away
from
motor
vehicle
traffic.
N
We
also
evaluated
the
cost
effectiveness
and
of
various
options,
as
well
as
the
way
that
they
would
support.
Curbside
activity
needs
for
the
businesses
and
and
other
adjacent
uses
looking
forward
in
terms
of
long-term
planning.
Since
this
would
be
a
reconstruction
of
the
street,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it
supports
sustainability
and
all
its
factors
in
terms
of
the
natural
environment,
flexibility,
innovation
and
personal
health
and
well-being.
N
The
study
area
is
focused,
as
I
said,
between
college
and
young
street
within
a
wider
study
area
of
the
downtown
north
of
davenport
to
king
street.
This
is
the
first
phase
of
an
environmental
assessment
between
college
and
queens,
whereas
a
next
stage
will
look
to
the
potential
future
design
of
college
up
to
north
of
bloor
modeshare
was
a
critical
component
here
we
see
the
majority
of
people
using
young
street
are
pedestrians
and
that
trend
has
been
increasing,
as
well
as
the
the
influence
of
cycling
and
transit
use
in
the
downtown
core.
N
N
There
is
also
a
recommendation
for
a
cycle
track
for
this
component
between
college
and
gerard,
where
the
street
is
six
meters
of
right-of-way
wider
than
otherwise
the
rest
of
the
section
between
gerard
and
queen.
The
physical
design
does
not
lock
in
a
particular
operations
approach,
but
is
intended
to
be
flexible
so
that
we
can
consult
with
local
stakeholders,
including
the
bia
and
other
local
agencies
and
adjacent
users,
to
understand
the
best
operations
approach
for
various
iterations
going
forward.
N
The
next
steps
are
to.
We
are
recommending
that
the
that
this
physical
design
be
approved
by
infrastructure,
environment
committee
and
completion
of
the
environmental
assessment
study
for
30
day
public
review
over
the
next
two
years.
We
would
look
to
do
detailed
design
and
operations
planning
in
consultation
with
local
area
stakeholders
and
bring
forward
a
report
to
council
on
a
proposed
operational
plan
in
the
before
construction
in
potentially
2023.
N
N
B
B
J
Thank
you
good
morning,
members
of
the
infrastructure
committee
happy
new
year
to
you
all
and
congratulations
chair
and
vice
chair
on
rules.
My
name
is
kevin
rupa
singh
and
I'm
speaking
today
on
behalf
of
toronto,
a
member
member-based
non-profit
organization,
that's
working
to
make
toronto
a
safer,
healthier,
more
vibrant
city
for
all.
J
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
many
many
stakeholders,
city
of
toronto
staff
for
several
years
during
the
consultation
process
for
young
tomorrow,
which
is
a
big,
bold
vision
for
downtown
young
street
transportation
services.
The
event
of
creating
a
consultation
process
in
which
stakeholders
and
the
public
have
both
been
able
to
contribute
to
a
great
deal
of
feedback
that
staff
have
collected.
We've
been
very
impressed
by
their
ability
to
listen
to
a
variety
of
needs
and
iterate
again
and
again
on
their
designs
to
reach
a
recommendation
for
a
new
physical
layout.
J
J
I
think
we've
seen
how
prioritizing
space
for
active
transportation
has
benefited
the
safety
of
all
road
users
and
visitors
on
our
main
streets
before
the
original
bloor
street
bike
lanes
are
a
great
example
of
where
the
of
how
successful
we
can
be
in
improving
the
road
safety
for
people
walking,
people,
cycling
and
people
driving
all
at
the
same
time,
destination
danforth
is
another
great
example
of
a
project.
That's
prioritized
active
transportation
and
it's
been
lauded
by
the
local
community.
J
We've
also
been
prioritizing
public
space
that
supports
our
local
business
across
the
city
with
the
highly
successful
cafeteo
program
and
that's
been
incredibly
well
received
by
by
residents
and
businesses
alike.
In
fact,
just
last
month
you
may
recall
mayor
tory
was
pleased
to
share
with
you
all
at
council
how
happy
he
was
to
have
won
his
bet
against
the
danforth
community
leader
about
whether
a
destination
danforth
would
be
a
benefit
to
local
businesses.
Of
course,
the
committee
leader
was
nervous,
but
it
turns
out.
J
J
Let's
also
not
forget
that
this
project
lines
up
very
well
with
the
recovery
and
rebuild
report
that
was
endorsed
by
council
very
recently,
to
highlight
the
need
of
investing
in
public
space
and
active
transportation
to
support
the
economic
and
social
recovery
of
our
city.
As
we
come
out
of
the
pandemic,
this
this
project
will
set
up
not
only
the
local
community,
but
the
region
at
large
for
success
in
the
coming
years.
J
Cycle.
Toronto
really
supports
the
recommendations
that
are
laid
out
by
staff,
we're
quite
confident
that
any
further
work
to
determine
an
operational
plan
can
be
carried
out
by
the
city
in
the
coming
years
after
this
vote
today,
and
we're
also
confident
that
it'll
be
at
the
same
caliber
as
the
consultation
that
was
done,
leading
up
to
the
recommendations
that
are
here
today.
So
I
trust
that
you'll
be
voting
in
favor
for
these
changes.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
O
O
There
has
been
extensive
consultation
for
this
project.
The
current
design
of
the
subject
section
of
young
street
does
not
work.
It
hasn't
changed
in
a
hundred
years
and
is
antiquated
the
upcoming
water
main
construction
is
an
opportunity
to
set
a
new
vision
for
yonge
street.
While
the
majority
of
people
travel
in
the
area
by
walking,
cycling
or
taking
public
transit,
the
majority
of
young
street
is
reserved
for
cars.
O
O
Allocating
more
space
to
pedestrians
will
reduce
congestion
on
the
sidewalks,
especially
near
yonge
and
dundas,
and
make
walking
on
young
street
a
much
more
enjoyable
experience.
The
design
acknowledges
that
this
section
of
downtown
young
is
unique,
with
its
extreme
pedestrian
volumes
exceeding
100
000
per
day.
O
This
project
marks
a
major
step
towards
designing
streets
for
the
people
who
use
them
rather
than
prioritizing
cars
by
default.
The
proposed
design
also
aligns
with
the
city's
vision,
zero
road
safety
plan
and
transform
to
climate
change
plan.
As
the
number
of
condominium
and
office
buildings
increases
and
ryerson
university
continues
to
grow,
the
congestion
on
the
sidewalks
will
only
worsen.
O
B
B
B
B
B
P
Thank
you
talk
about
getting
bumped
to
the
front
of
the
line,
wow
paul
seaman
vice
president
of
brandon
cities.
I'm
speaking
you
today
to
voice
our
opposition
to
the
stock
recommendations
and
proposed
design
concept
for
yonge
street,
as
we
believe
it
will
negatively
impact
the
community
that
we
and
many
others
have
worked
diligently
and
for
over
20
years
to
create
branded
cities
and
its
predecessor
channel
pioneered
the
initial
dundas
square
signage
district
through
the
creation
of
canada's
first
media
tower
atrium
on
bay.
P
P
These
displays
that
were
made
possible
by
ad
revenue
created
through
traffic,
vehicular
and
pedestrian
were
key
in
making
downtown
young
and
dundas
were
world
famous
and
respected,
not
dissimilar
to
times
square
and
piccadilly
circus
in
london.
These
displays
generate
positive
tourist
experiences
and
create
iconic
imagery
from
what
was
once
a
diminished
crime-ridden
national
eye
storm.
P
The
city
should
not
remove
vehicular
access
on
yonge
street.
We
believe
that
the
staff
recommendations
before
you
today
would
not
contribute
to
the
world-class
destination
that
young
dundas
is
currently,
but
rather
would
significantly
diminish
it.
For
these
reasons,
we
voice
our
opposition
to
the
plan
as
currently
presented
and
urged
the
committee
to
reject
staff's
recommendations
for
yonge
street.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
B
Q
Thank
you
very
much
councillor
mckelvie
and
thank
you
to
councillor
leighton
for
the
for
the
opportunity
and
through
you
to
madam
chair
to
the
the
speaker,
paul
mr
seaman.
I
should
say
your
business,
the
the
business
that
you
own
and
the
misses
that
that
you
operate
is
largely
the
the
digital
billboard
signage
sector.
Is
that
correct.
Q
Q
P
Well,
it's
it's
fundamentally
an
aggregate
of
the
total
traffic,
that's
involved
in
the
area,
but
it's
also
the
perception
of
the
area
that
is
there's
always
movement
in
the
area,
whether
it's
pedestrian
or
vehicular.
I
can
tell
you
you
know
with
the
privilege
of
having
an
office
that
overlooks
it.
There
are
more
often
than
not
days
that
the
the
community
is
empty,
especially
with
covid
there's
very
few
pedestrians
in
dundas
square.
P
Today,
certainly
in
winter
months,
we
see
much
much
less
pedestrian
activity,
so
in
order
to
maintain
any
kind
of
vibrancy,
all
movement
is
good,
whether
it's
a
you
know
a
bus
or
not.
I
think
I
think
your
question,
the
you
know,
certainly
we're
not
suggesting
that
this
should
be
a
visual
distraction.
Cars
should
not
follow
the
road
and
pay
attention
to
look
at
the
signs,
but
rather
the
mere
presence
of
those
cars
and
not
to
not
to
negate
the
fact
that
the
average
car
has
more
than
one
individual.
Q
So
is
it
the
purpose
and
design
of
the
billboards
just
because
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
by
the
answer,
but
it's
the
purpose
and
design
of
the
billboards
to
attract
the
visual
attention
of
drivers
and
the
passengers
and
the
cars,
and
that
creates
the
dynamic
kinetic
energy
on
on
young
street.
That
makes
it
vibrant.
Is
that
what
you're
expressing?
P
D
P
Yeah,
it's
an
aggregate
total
count
which
is
both
pedestrian
and
vehicular.
One
of
the
there
are
some
key
differences
in
times
square
and
desk,
where
dundas
square
very
much
being
a
square
with
an
intersection
and
traffic
coming
from
all
different
directions
and
times
square
has
more
of
a
peripheral
transportation.
That
kind
of
bull
nose
is
in
the
other
thing
that
that
I
think
is
you
know
exceptionally
different
about
times
square.
Is
it
has
considerable
international
coverage?
That
is,
you
know
around
the
world.
P
D
P
Well,
I
think
we
would
really
need
to
consider
when
that
occurs
and
how
that
occurs.
So,
as
example,
currently,
you
have
a
constant
stream
of
motion,
you
have
vehicles
and,
yes,
you
do
have
people,
you
have
bus
lines
that
empty
people
out
in
dundas
square
and
tourism,
and
things
like
that.
There's
a
general
movement
that
suggests
vibrancy
in
the
square
when
you
take
the
traffic
out
of
it,
you're
left
with
pockets
and
pedestrians.
P
These
are
questions
that
there
are
times
that
there
are
lots
of
pedestrians
and
we
are
very
supportive
of
of
occasional
closures
whereby
there
are
festivals
and
events.
We
encourage
that.
We
think
that's
a
great
idea,
but
suffice
to
say
that
pedestrian
movement
tends
to
be
more
limited.
You
know
you
may
have
more
of
that
at
six
or
seven
o'clock
on
a
friday
night.
Nothing
on
you
know
on
a
friday
morning,
where
you
just
have
no
traffic
at
all
or
potentially
sunday
morning.
D
C
Yes
thanks,
I
I
I
have
an
interesting,
interesting
deputation.
I,
madam
chair,
to
the
extent
that,
from
a
business
point
of
view,
he
might
have
some
interesting
statistics
that
might
shed
some
light
on
this.
So,
sir,
you
raised
an
interesting
point
about
numbers
and
traffic
volumes.
You
say
it's
it's.
There
can
be
some
pretty
dramatic
shifts
depending
upon
time
of
day.
Yes,
yes,
and
that's
not
really
considered
in
the
report,
is
it.
P
C
And
I
mean
you're
kind
of
an
agnostic
with
regard
to
you're
you're
interested
in
eyeballs.
Looking
at
your
at
your
advertising,
which
translates
into
business
for
your
for
your
clients,
so
whether
it's
in
a
car
or
on
a
sidewalk
that
person,
you
know,
has
a
wallet
and
you
hope,
they'll
spend
they'll
open
their
wallet,
that's
sort
of
your
business
arrangement,
so
you
know
you're.
Looking
at
this
saying
from
a
as
a
business
person
from
an
economic
point
of
view,
this
arrangement
will
be
negative
for
businesses.
Have
I
missed
that?
P
Counselor,
I
think
I
think
that
is
an
accurate
depiction.
That
is
it's.
You
know,
yes,
of
course,
it's
eyeballs
anywhere
and
anyhow,
but
it's
also
the
perception
of
what
the
community
is,
and
that
is
you
know,
for
the
ad
agencies
and
those
advertisers
with
businesses.
You
know
are
dependent
on
this
kind
of
thing.
P
It's
it's
important
that
they
be
getting
a
vibrant
community
and
and
not
one
where
you
know
some
pockets
here
and
there
have
traffic
and
in
the
rest
of
the
week,
it's
it's
pretty
quiet
and
and
slow
that
that
will
diminish
the
interest
in
the
business.
Ultimately,
if,
if
we're
not
able
to
maintain
these
things
and
continue
capitalizing,
which
is
an
expensive
business,
they
will
you
know
slide
away
in
the
years
to
come
and
we'll
we'll
be
back
where
we
were.
You
know,
22
years
ago,.
C
B
R
Excellent
good
morning,
madam
chair
and
committee
members
and
counselors,
thank
you
for
providing
me
with
the
opportunity
to
share
with
some
of
my
experiences
with
the
neighborhood.
Once
again,
my
name
is
alan
liu
and
my
family
has
owned
and
operated
sally
king
neighborhood
thai
restaurant
serving
a
young
dundas
community
for
30
years.
I
grew
up
in
this
neighborhood.
I
work
in
this
neighborhood
and
I
even
live
in
this
neighborhood.
So
every
day
I'm
biking
walking
taking
the
transit.
R
Again
this
to
say
we
are
committed
to
this
neighborhood
and
one
nothing
but
best
for
the
community,
but
we
are
greatly
concerned
by
the
proposal
being
put
forward
for
the
neighborhood
that
includes
daily
closing
for
the
pedestrian
priority
zones.
We
don't
believe
this
will
be
good
for
the
areas
and
I'll
share.
Two
points
of
why
I
think
that
the
first
point
is
half
a
million
dollars.
R
R
So
while
a
pedestrian
zone
may
draw
additional
businesses
under
certain
conditions,
I
don't
think
it
will
actually
be
enough
for
us
to
offset
those
costs
throughout
the
year.
Operating
a
restaurant
downtown
is
already
extremely
challenging,
with
a
higher
rental
property
taxes
that
an
area
specific
class
site
that
would
drive
businesses
out
of
the
area
and
make
it
unviable.
R
And
this
brings
me
to
my
second
point:
we
would
only
be
able
to
cut
these
costs
if
we
could
even
bring
supplies
downtown
even
today,
if
I
had
to
get
a
plumber.
The
first
thing
I
hear
is:
oh,
it's
downtown.
I
don't
want
to
go
down
there.
So
imagine
we
have
all
these
closures.
We
work
with
a
lot
of
small
businesses,
a
lot
of
small
suppliers
and
they
just
don't
have
the
logistics
and
their
stock
to
be
able
to
deliver
at
5
am
in
the
morning
to
be
able
to
stay
around
in
an
area.
R
R
So
those
are
the
two
points
I
just
want
to
bring
up
and
we
think
that
these
issues
and
cut
others
based
on
the
current
proposal
for
the
daily
closing
for
the
pedestrian
areas
will
make
businesses
like
us
unable
to
survive,
and
we
would
just
have
to
do
together.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
C
C
R
R
Yeah,
just
as
an
example,
if
I
had
to
I'm
actually
getting
a
chicken
supply
delivered
right
now,
if
I
had
to
change
your
supply
that
could
meet
the
requirements,
I'm
probably
paying
another
forty
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year,
so
that
would
mean
you
know
using
a
profit
margin
of
less
than
ten.
That
would
be.
You
know
I
would
need
half
a
million
of
revenue
just
to
offset
my
chicken
costs.
C
R
R
We
already
hear
stories
today
that
people
find
it
challenging
to
find
parking
to
drive
downtown.
What
have
you
so
yeah?
Yes,
we
still
have
a
lot
of
our
customers
in
the
area,
but
those
who
have
you
know
whether
moved
out
because
of
they
finished
school
or
they
moved
up
for
work.
It's
a
challenge
for
them.
We
see
less
of
them
on
the
weekends.
R
Are
incredibly
tough
because
of
kovit
and
over
the
past
10
years,
profit
margins
have
dropped
because
operating
costs
for
restaurants,
property
taxes,
real
estate,
labor
cost
those
have
just
gone
high
and
high.
It's
just
kidding
the
average
restaurant
in
toronto
has
a
profit
margin
of
under
four
percent.
A
You
know
what
councilman
and
wrong
kind
of
raises
some
interesting
issues,
and
I
this
is
something
I've
never
really
sort
of
thought
about.
We
always
we
always
here
as
it
relates
to
business
models.
If
you
open
a
restaurant
in
in,
I
don't
know
central
scarborough,
do
you
build
it
on
a
sort
of?
Do
you
open
that
restaurant
on
the
premise
that
some
guy
is
going
to
get
out
of
his
condominium
in
downtown
toronto
and
drive
out
to
scarborough
to
dine
at
your
restaurant?
R
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
speak
for
a
restaurant
out
in
scarborough.
That's
the
one
interesting
thing
about
the
restaurant
business
is
there's
so
many
different
business
models
from
you
know
from
a
restaurant
like
us,
a
mama
papa,
a
quick
service.
Restaurant
to
you
know
bars.
I
know
that
when
we
had
a
location
at
chuckling,
don
mills,
people
will
drive
distances
for
bars,
but
they
will
not
drive
distance
for
a
food
restaurant
like
ours.
They
we
are
a
neighborhood
business.
A
A
Okay,
so
so
yeah,
because
that
was
going
to
be
my
next
question.
My
next
question-
and
I'm
glad
you
answered
that
because
my
next
question
was
going
to
be.
Do
you
think
that
downtown
that
businesses,
that
open
up
in
the
downtown
core,
for
example,
that
their
business
model
is
different
than
the
guy
who
opens
in
central
scarborough.
N
M
R
Aaron's
business,
a
lot
of
people
drive
in
for
his
restaurant
versus
my
business,
which
is
local
and
we
are
literally
we
share
the
same
back
out
so
different
businesses
will
have
different
models.
So
for
us
we
have
challenges
with
delivery
and
the
logistics
for
him.
He
would
have
problems
bringing
customers
in.
A
A
The
reason
I
know
barbarians
is
because
I
I
sat
in
the
legislature
for
some
years
and-
and
that
was
one
of
the
sort
of
favorite
places
of
a
few
of
the
members
that
that
I
sat
with
they
introduced
me
to
it.
So
that's
why
I
know
it.
So
if
I'm
gonna,
if
I'm
gonna,
go
out
and
look
for
a
steakhouse,
that's
a
steakhouse,
I'm
going
to
remember
and
because
I
live
in
the
suburbs,
I
may
actually
make
the
trip
down
to
to
the
core.
A
R
B
B
K
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
My
apologies
for
the
the
slow
uptake
there
on
the
audio
connection.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
Committee
members,
my
name
is
gideon
foreman,
I'm
a
transportation
policy
analyst
at
the
david
suzuki
foundation
and
we're
here
today
to
support
the
staff
recommendation
regarding
young
tomorrow.
We
support
it
for
a
number
of
reasons
at
first,
madam
chair,
it
promotes
road
safety.
When
we
widen
sidewalks
and
install
protected
bike
lanes,
we
create
a
safer
street
for
everyone,
and
that
includes
walkers,
madam
chair
cyclists
and
yes,
motorists.
K
K
That
project
supports,
and
I
quote
more
space
for
outdoor
cafes,
vending
and
retail
unquote
and
will
help
downtown
young
quote:
become
a
premier
urban
destination
for
tourists
and
city
residents.
Unquote,
staff
also
cite
research,
madam
chair,
suggesting
that
people
walking
and
cycling
visit
more
often
and
spend
more
per
month
on
retail
streets
than
those
driving
the
pandemic
has
been
enormously
challenging
for
local
business.
We
all
agree
on
that,
but
young
tomorrow,
which
will
bring
more
shoppers
to
the
city
core,
is
part
of
the
solution.
K
Finally,
we
support
the
project
because
it
addresses
the
climate
crisis.
I
don't
need
to
tell
you,
madam
chair,
that
toronto's
second
largest
source
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
is
transportation
and
most
of
the
emissions
in
this
sector
come
from
personal
vehicles,
offering
alternatives
more
choices
to
the
gas-burning
automobile
is
absolutely
crucial.
If
we
want
our
children
to
have
a
livable
planet,
we
must
make
it
easier
for
folks
to
walk
and
cycle
and
that's
exactly
what
young
tomorrow
will
do.
Madam
chairs,
you
know.
K
Last
november
dr
david
suzuki
sent
a
personal
letter
to
mayor
torrey,
urging
him
to
expedite
the
rollout
of
protected
bicycling.
Dr
suzuki
wrote-
and
I
quote
I
understand
you-
will
soon
be
considering
the
reimagining
young
and
young
tomorrow
projects.
I
urge
you
to
support
them.
Unquote,
madam
chair.
While
we
strongly
endorse
the
staff
recommendations,
let
me
just
mention
finally
that
we
do
have
two
concerns.
We
do
wonder
if
cyclists
will
have
adequate
protection
on
the
queen
to
shooter
section
of
the
project.
We
ask
staff
to
consider
adding
cycle
tracks
here.
K
K
These
issues
notwithstanding,
we
very
much
hope
that
you
will
approve
the
project.
The
staff
recommendation
is
based
on
extensive
consultation,
which
I
was
personally
pleased
to
be
part
of,
but
many
many
stakeholders
were
involved
and
we
believe
it
represents
a
reasonable
and
balanced
approach.
Young
tomorrow
will
make
the
streets
safer
help
us
meet
our
climate
targets,
madam
chair,
and
provide
new
customers
and
a
business
friendly
environment
for
our
local
merchants.
B
B
O
Thank
you
good
morning,
chair
mac
will
be
and
members
of
the
infrastructure
and
environment
committee.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
today.
My
name
is
angelo
de
palma.
I'm
a
principal
and
portfolio
manager
at
fentanyl
green
oak,
a
fiduciary
investment
manager
that
represents
penn
dundas
street
east,
a
cultural
landmark
and
significant
stakeholder
within
the
downtown
young
business
improvement
area.
We
would
like
to
voice
our
opposition
to
the
staff
report
and
recommendations
before
you
today
on
the
young
tomorrow.
O
These
recommendations
leave
our
businesses
vulnerable
to
supply
shocks,
disrupt
our
retailers,
who
will
then
have
no
visibility
on
when
and
whether
they
can
reliably
get
inventory
into
their
stores
and
ensure
continued
robust
operations
on
any
given
day.
Tenant
deliveries
attend
dundas
treaties,
average
upwards
to
100
commercial
vehicles,
many
of
them
48
foot
trailers,
which
will
be
impacted
by
this
proposal.
O
Furthermore,
the
notion
of
intermixing
large
commercial
vehicle
traffic
with
areas
that
are
designated
as
pedestrian
priority
zones
will
invariably
result
in
increased
safety
concern
concerns
under
the
current
proposal.
The
reality
does
not
meet
or
equal.
The
narrative,
alternatively,
forcing
overnight
deliveries
is
simply
incompatible
with
our
tenants
business
models
and
will
increase
costs
and
interfere
with
our
buildings.
Overnight.
Waste
management,
organic
and
cardboard
pickup
services,
young
street
is
toronto's
most
iconic
main
street.
Removing
vehicular
traffic
from
young
street
will
not
strengthen
the
economic
viability
of
this
globally,
recognized
commercial
hub.
O
Our
retailers
and
the
customers
they
serve
and
the
millions
of
annual
visitors
to
the
square
are
served
every
day,
both
directly
and
indirectly,
by
vehicular
taxes
on
yonge
street
and
the
plans
being
event
today.
Put
those
interests
in
peril
in
2019,
for
example,
are
traffic
counters
at
10
dundas
street
east?
These
are
those
electronic
devices
that
we've
installed
that
measure
the
property's
daily
traffic
counted
a
total
of
9.9
million
people
by
comparison
in
2020.
The
total
traffic
count
at
our
building
was
just
3
million
down
over
70.
O
In
addition,
our
property
income
has
reduced
in
2020
from
the
previous
year
by
over
31.
Indeed,
it's
going
to
be
a
long
road
to
recovery
for
us
and
for
all
businesses.
However,
we
believe
that
any
permanent
road
closures
will
only
hamper
this
recovery
longer
term
will
limit
access
to
our
property
by
our
customers,
clients
and
guests.
O
O
B
B
B
O
Very
good,
madam
secure
well
good
morning,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
marcelo
cabaces
and
I'm
speaking
today
to
affirm
my
support.
First
off,
I'm
a
proud
citizen
of
toronto.
I've
always
tried
to
bring
luster
to
the
fabric
of
our
great
city
and
have
encouraged
active
citizenship
along
the
way
net.
I've
developed
to
be
a
subject
matter,
expert
about
how
citizens
like
to
spend
their
leisure
time
and
how
to
motivate
them
to
take
action
on
common
goals
and
beliefs.
O
Let
me
say
it's
great
news
to
see
that
there's
been
unprecedented
support
and
enthusiasm
from
citizens
of
toronto
for
young
tomorrow
for
young
tomorrow.
As
we
know,
city
politics
can
at
times
be
perceived
to
be
a
little
dry,
and
not
that
exciting
sure
citizens
can
be
encouraged
to
get
involved
during
an
election
cycle.
But
what
about
other
times?
How
can
we
inspire
citizens
to
actually
care
about
what
happens
in
their
everyday
world
and
assert
that
they
actually
have
a
voice?
O
O
They
collectively
believe
there
is
a
perfect
storm
upon
us
that
should
inspire
all
us
all
to
seize
this
moment,
for
it
is
a
moment
that
will
pass
us
if
we
don't
grab
it
and,
most
importantly,
they
are
citizens
of
all
ages
and
have
chosen
to
step
up
and
support,
not
just
at
this
stage,
but
we
have
their
commitment
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
aid
in
all
aspects
of
making
young
tomorrow
happen.
So
members
of
the
committee,
the
key
takeaway
on
this,
for
you
can
be
communicated
in
four
simple,
yet
powerful
words.
O
You
are
not
alone,
you,
the
mayor,
your
other
cancer
colleague
city
staff
and
all
the
usual
players
that
are
and
would
work
on
this
there's
an
emergence
of
unprecedented,
unprecedented
active
citizenship.
Supporting
this,
they
see
a
part
of
themselves
in
what
this
can
be
a
destination
we
all
can
be
proud
of
for
the
city
of
today
and
tomorrow.
O
Let's
move
forward
and
focus
on
the
very
idea
that
a
torontonian
is
a
torontonian
is
a
torontonian
not
just
when
the
raptors
win
championships,
not
just
when
shawn
mendes
plays
the
rogers
center,
not
just
when
hollywood
descends
upon
us
during
the
film
festival.
Let
this
pride
of
being
a
torontonian
be
reflected
in
our
places,
our
streets,
our
destination.
O
Let
us
all
collectively
contribute
to
making
young
street
a
thoughtful,
inclusive,
vibrant
place
where
all
is
welcome,
a
place
where
we
are
proud
to
invite
people
to
a
place
that
we
all
see
as
a
privilege
to
go
to,
let
it
be
revered
by
our
citizens
and
those
from
around
the
world,
and
let
us
not
give
her-
let's
not
make
this.
If
we
only
did
that
tight
moment.
Let
us
do
this
together,
politicians
and
citizens
responsibly.
That's
truly
magnificent!
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Q
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
and,
just
to
through
you
very
quickly
marcelo,
your
deputation
is
a
little
bit
different
than
others.
We've
heard
so
far,
you're
speaking
about
a
civic
purpose
almost
and
and
place
making
component.
Can
you
just
further
elaborate
and
review
a
few
short
sensitive
sentences
for
us?
What
does
toronto
as
a
main
street?
What
could
it
mean
for
the
city
and
perhaps
the
way
we
project
out
to
the
world.
O
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question,
you
know
counselor
and
thank
you
for
that.
You
know
I've
worked
with.
You
know
interesting
notables
bringing
woody
harrelson
to
do
cultural
theater
plays
and
bringing
jimmy
kimmel
live
toronto
with
three
levels
of
tourism
to
to
sell
the
city
to
a
millennial,
demographic,
the
united
states.
It
was
always
a
question
in
terms
of
you
have
such
a
great
city,
but
what
about
young
street?
You
know
there
is
such
a
great
opportunity
here
to
do
something
that
is
truly.
B
H
Okay,
thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
committee
members
apologize
for
the
previous
delay.
This
is
only
the
second
time
I've
given
a
deputation
at
city
hall.
Although
I've
lived
in
toronto,
all
my
life
and
decided
to
speak
because
I
love
the
city
and
because
young
street
spoke
to
me,
young
has
bookended
my
life.
H
H
Young
falls
terribly
short
of
what
our
main
street
should
be.
Visitors
still
want
to
see
young
street
like
new
york.
Visitors
want
to
see
and
walk
broadway
or
fifth
avenue.
I
can't
imagine
they're
impressed
major
changes
are
needed,
and
I
want
to
make
the
point
that
we
need
to
take
a
big
step
to
achieve
that.
We've
done
it
before
the
toronto
of
my
childhood
and
youth
was
dull
and
parochial
transformation
over
the
last
50
years,
and
one
of
into
one
of
the
world's
greatest
cities
to
live
in
has
been
truly
remarkable.
H
Recently,
toronto
has
taken
some
significant
steps
ahead,
we're
slowly
recognizing
that
the
city's
car
prioritizing
design
needs
to
change
after
a
mere
50
years
of
discussion.
Toronto
finally
built
bike
lanes
along
blue
or
west
and
last
year,
council
quickly
built
bike
infrastructure
on
university
in
danforth
and
please
make
sure
they
become
permanent,
and
I
was
extremely
happy
that
council
approved
the
reimagining
young
plan
of
the
young
of
my
childhood.
H
I
hope
these
are
signs
that
toronto's
embracing
the
21st
century,
and
I
urge
the
committee
to
commit
to
progress
this
transformation
of
my
hometown
and
now
of
our
main
street
young
can
no
longer
be
the
young
of
a
hundred
years
ago.
I
believe
the
staff
recommendations
before
you
will
remake
young
into
the
street.
We
need
and
deserve
today
and
tomorrow.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
G
Q
B
Q
H
Thank
you
counselor.
I
I
don't
feel
like
I'm
getting
around
great
difficulty
anywhere,
I'm
like
don't
basically
travel
by
bikes
and
walking,
but
it
isn't.
As
I
walk
as
I
walk
along,
I
mean.
Obviously
I
see
the
same
thing.
Other
people
do
how
narrow
the
sidewalks
can
be
in
places
with
all
the
construction.
H
Q
Thank
you,
john,
and
for
those
I
mean
for
the
for
the
staff
recommendation
before
us
right
now.
The
the
current
proposal
is
to
to
reconfigure
and
to
reimagine
the
section
of
yonge
street
from
college
and
carlton
down
to
queen,
but
there
is
a
second
phase
of
work
that
that
will
then
take
this
young
street
element
and
design.
That's
before
us
and
then
flip
it
north.
So
we
continue
to
to
transform
young
from
college
to
davenport
and
is
that
the
area
that
that
that
will
be
beneficial
to
you
and
your
family.
H
F
M
H
Space,
you
know,
as
I
said
before,
it's
we
know
how
tight
the
area
is,
there's
really
nothing
to
attract
people
visually
physically
to
get
around.
You
know
I
think,
of
opening
up
the
area
to
the
kind
of
cafes
and
restaurants.
You
know
I've
been
we've
all
been
to
other
cities
where
it's
very
pedestrian
friendly
and
just
to
walk
around
an
area
where
it's
a
place
where
people
live
and
not
just
get
by
get
through,
which
is
sort
of
how
young
street
feels
today.
B
S
Thank
you.
My
name
is
martin
ray,
I'm
vice
president
of
operations
at
cadillac
fairview
on
behalf
of
cadillac
fairview
and
the
cf
toronto
center.
I'd
like
to
thank
the
members
of
this
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
share
our
views
on
the
young
tomorrow
project
today,
as
the
owner
and
operator
of
cf
china
reach
center
and
and
on
behalf
of
the
businesses
within
it,
we
do
object
in
the
strongest
possible
terms
to
the
post,
reconfiguration
of
yonge
street
and
especially
the
effective
closure
of
the
street
to
vehicles
and
lane
reduction.
S
We
are
actually
quite
surprised
to
see
today
the
amended
attachment
eight,
which
just
references
the
potential
layout
of
the
street.
We
were
advised
by
and
directed
to
a
report
that
outlined
a
very
detailed
view
of
the
young
tomorrow
project,
a
project
which
we
have
been
stake,
provided
stakehold,
holder
feedback
for
the
past
two
years.
S
S
Secondly,
there
appears
to
be
no
provision
for
left
or
right
turn
lanes
my
entire
extent
of
the
street.
If
this
is
with
one
way
traffic,
then
any
vehicles
turning
would
cause
immediate
traffic
congestion,
and
we
remain
clear
that
we
do
not
support
a
reduction
in
traffic
lanes
on
yonge
street,
and
this
has
definitely
not
been
demonstrated
as
needed,
particularly
south
of
dundas
street.
S
S
S
We
need
to
take
a
holistic
approach
to
safety.
It's
imperative
that
designs
take
into
account
all
of
the
social
issues
we
face
today,
and
these
must
be
taken
into
account
in
the
future.
Any
pedestrianization
of
young
street
requires
the
increased
social
services
and
wraparound
supports
that
we
currently
don't
have
in
the
neighborhood.
B
Q
Very
much
ma'am
chair,
I
recognize
that
you
are
working
under
some
difficult
circumstances
with
a
fire
alarm
through
you,
madam
chair,
to
to
the
deputy
martin.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
deputation.
Your
first
point
that
you
raised
about
needing
drop-off
provisions
to
be
made
on
yonge
street
in
front
of
the
eaton
center.
Did
you
express
that
to
staff?
Is
that
you
wanted
sort
of
drop
off
zones
on
young
street
four
four
parcels,
or
perhaps
for
passengers
directly
in
front
of
the
eaton
center.
S
Yes,
that's
been
through
the
chair
that
has
been
a
feedback
from
us
throughout
this
process.
Whatever
the
final
street
design
was,
we
made
clear
that
it
was
vital
that
our
retail
and
also
remember
that
toronto
east
center
has
a
a
significant
office
population
as
well
particularly
250
yonge
street,
and
that
needed
to
be
serviced
by
any
redesign
of
the
street.
When
I
look
at
the
attachment,
eight,
there
are
no
pickup
or
drop-off
locations
on
the
toronto
meet
center
side
of
the
street.
Q
S
Q
S
Yes,
there
is,
and
through
the
chair
you
know,
attachment
h,
shows
those
locations
on
the
east
side
of
yonge
street.
That
would
that
would
relate
to
design
concept
4d,
which
shows
that
there
is
only
northbound
traffic
on
yonge
street
in
that
section,
and
so
you
know
that's
where
there's
a
little
bit
of
confusion
here
as
to
whether
we
are
speaking
to
design
concept,
4d
or
attachment
8.
regardless,
you
know,
whatever,
whatever
designs
are
finally
put
forward,
we
would
ask
that
those
divisions
are
made
adjacent
to
toronto
wheaton
center.
Q
Yeah,
thank
you
and
martin
just
to
just
to
confirm
your
your
objections
are
not
just
with
respect
to
the
operations
of
the
of
the
streets.
You
know
considered,
meaning
that
we
don't
have.
We
haven't
landed
on
the
operations,
yet
your
objections
are
that
that
young
street
should
remain
with
four
lanes
of
traffic.
Is
that
what
I
heard
from
your
deputation
that
you
object
to
the
the
narrowing
of
the
roadway
and
the
widening
of
the
sidewalks.
S
Through
the
chair,
yes,
we
don't
believe
that
reduction
of
traffic
lanes,
particularly
south
of
dundas,
has
been
shown
as
being
as
being
necessary,
but
but
I
would
also
just
like
to
make
a
comment.
You
know
the
operational
designs.
Yes,
the
operation
designs
have
to
be
now
made,
but
the
attachment
eight
is
designed
with
all
of
the
recommended
design
concept
for
the
aspects
still
still
included,
so
I
want
to
speak
strongly
to
the
design
concept
for
the
those
operational
aspects.
G
S
We
would
have
about
250
plus
retail
stores.
We
also
have
four
significant
office
towers,
so
we
have
three.
We
have
20,
we
have
queen
street,
we
have
250
young,
we
have
one
dundas.
We
also
have
the
new
campus
above
nordstrom.
So,
along
with
the
retail,
we
have
four
significant
office
components
as
well
about
seven
to
ten
thousand
office
workers
per
day.
G
G
S
Yes,
through
the
chair,
I
mean
that's
a
very
great
question.
We
are
as
as
a
as
one
of
canada's
largest
retail
landlords.
We
are
obviously
facing
a
very
long
recovery
from
what
we've
gone
through
in
the
last
year,
our
our
retail
clients
and
our
office.
Clients
too,
but
particularly
retail,
have
suffered
catastrophic
losses.
S
We
expect
the
next
no
two
years
of
retail,
to
be
a
very,
very
tough
time
and
and
our
retailers
will
be
looking
to
us
to
remove
any
barriers
we
can
possibly
remove
and
anything
that
impedes
their
ability
to
to
scrabble
their
way
back
to
profitability
would
obviously
be
a
burden.
We
would
not
want
them
to
face.
S
B
C
S
Well,
thanks
for
the
question
through
the
chair,
I
mean
we.
We
we
have
a
very
large
trade
area.
We
would,
we
would
be
considered.
You
know
a
major
tourist
as
well
as
a
retail
attraction,
so
we
would
attract
people
from
all
over
the
world
we
have
about.
30
percent
of
our
retail
clients
would
come
and
would
be
classed
as
a
tourist,
so
they
will
be
coming
from
from
points
from
all
points
throughout
canada
and
throughout
the
world
we
are,
but
our
traffic
for
retail
does
extend
throughout
the
greater
toronto
area.
S
We
will
be
a
destination
as
far
out
into
into
the
west
end
of
of
mississauga
oakville
even
far
as
burlington,
and
so
we
we
do
have
a
huge
draw
because
of
course
we
are
maybe
people
coming
in
to
work
and
shop,
but
as
a
tourist
and
retail
destination
we
would.
We
would
consider
us
our
our
trade
area
to
be
the
world.
C
S
Through
the
chair-
yes,
I
mean
young
street
is
definitely
more
than
just
toronto
eaton
center.
We
are
a
proud
member
of
the
whole
neighborhood,
but
we
have
certainly
been
instrumental
in
bringing
in
retail
such
as
saks
and
nordstrom
and
other
world-class
retailers
to
to
toronto.
You
know,
and
and
through
us
we
contribute
through
about
80
million
dollars
in
annual
taxes,
that
we
pay
plus,
of
course,
all
of
the
sales
and
revenue
that
we
generate
through
our
businesses.
C
S
B
D
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
I'm
really
curious
about
the
nut.
Like
I've
been
living
downtown.
My
whole
life,
the
number
of
people
that
actually
drive
to
the
eaton
center
for
to
shop.
Can
you
give
us
an
idea
of
how
many
on
a
deal,
how
many
people
on
a
daily
basis
would
go
to
the
in
the
eaton
center
outside
of
pre-covet
times
just
the
shopping
portion.
S
S
Well,
on
an
average
day
is
probably
about
two:
you
you'd
be
talking
a
couple
hundred
thousand
on
a
good
day
depending
on
the
weekend,
traffic,
obviously
different
during
the
day,
but
we
roughly
have
about
a
million
a
week
and
of
course,
some
of
that
is
transit.
Some
of
that
is
shopping.
Some
of
that
is
office,
office,
clients.
D
S
D
S
S
S
I
don't,
I
don't
want
to
speculate
our
our
parking
spaces
because
of
office
and
retail.
We
have
two
different
lots
as
well
as
our
customers
parking
adjacent
parking
lots
to
just
us,
so
it's
difficult
to
predict
exactly
how
much
is
being
used
and
who
is
going
where.
But
I
don't
have
those
numbers
right
now,
I'm
afraid.
D
S
We
are
well,
I
think,
it's
fair
to
say
that
it's
a
downtown
urban
shopping
center
with
two
transit
stops
with
significant
parking
that
our
customers
come
from
everywhere.
Our
customers
come
as
as
tourists
who
are
visiting
either
taking
a
taxi
or
a
rideshare
to
visit
us.
They
are
coming
into
the
city
for
the
day
and
maybe
parking
at
a
hotel
and
they're
coming
to
visit
us
so
from
from
all
ways.
But
I
think
the
perception
of
congesting
and
difficult
to
get
into
the
neighborhood
is
is
our
concern.
Thank.
B
H
That
was
close
enough.
Thank
you
good
morning,
chairman
kelvi
and
committee
members,
I'm
here
speaking
on
behalf
of
great
eagle
hotels,
the
owner
of
the
chelsea
hotel
site,
stuart
anderson
of
ba
group,
who's
listed
as
the
next
deput
is,
is
available
to
answer
any
questions
that
arise.
From
my
comments.
We
submitted
a
letter
a
dated
january
6th.
I
think
it's
part
of
your
materials.
It
was
written
before
attachment.
8
of
the
staff
report,
which
you're
being
asked
to
endorse
today,
was
revised
to
remove
operational
matters
and
focus
only
on
on
physical
design.
H
Great
eagles
concerns
were
and
are
with
the
operational
matters,
so
the
removal
of
those
matters
from
attachment
eight
has
has
dealt
with
those
concerns,
at
least
in
the
short
term.
So
I'll.
Just
briefly
summarize
great
eagles
concerns,
and
the
first
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
grey
legal
is
supportive
of
enhancing
the
pedestrian
experience
along
yonge
street.
Its
redevelopment
project
for
the
the
chelsea
site
has,
from
the
outset
been
intended
to
enhance
pedestrian
permeability
through
the
block
and
connections
to
young
street.
H
As
I
indicated,
those
operational
matters
have
been
removed
from
attachment.
Eight,
you
heard
from
ms
hayward
that
you're
being
asked
to
endorse
the
physical
design
at
this
time
and
you're,
not
locking
in
any
operational
matters.
So
you
know,
as
I
said,
our
concerns
our
eagles
concerns
have
been
addressed
in
the
short
term.
We
do
note
that
there
are
still
a
few
operational
matters
on
attachment.
Eight
there's,
there's
some
potential
traffic
gates.
H
There's
a
the
curb
radius
at
walton
and
and
young
implies
that
a
right
turn
movement
out
of
there
will
not
be
permitted
if
the
intention
was
to
remove
all
operational
matters,
that
was
perhaps
an
oversight.
In
any
event
when
the
operational
matters
come
back
before
council,
I
think
ms
hayward
suggested
that
would
be
in
2023.
H
B
H
Me
you
have
three
minutes.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
All
right.
I've
lived
in
saint
lawrence
neighborhood
now
for
23
years,
I've
worked
in
and
close
to
the
commercial
towers
in
I.t
finance
and
business
for
over
30
years.
I
am
an
active
advocate
for
a
better
ward,
13
and
the
city
at
large
belonging
to
several
organizations,
including
billing
building
delegate
for
st
lawrence
neighborhood
association,
ward,
captain
cycle
toronto
for
the
toronto
center
cyclist,
an
active
participant
in
toronto
community
bikeways
coalition.
H
I
always
work
on
having
a
true
understanding
of
the
local
issues
and,
most
importantly,
my
neighbors
thoughts
and
beliefs.
So
when
I
ask
somebody
what
do
you
think
of
having
young
street
changing
to
a
more
human
area,
I
hear
a
resounding
yes.
The
support
for
the
plans
outlined
in
young
tomorrow
has
strong
support
in
the
neighborhood.
I
wholeheartedly
agree
that
we
need
to
keep
moving
forward
with
a
young
tomorrow
project.
H
So
what
do
people
really
want
round?
One
study
ask
the
question:
how
much
space
should
be
dedicated
to
each
mode
of
transport.
We
answered
pedestrians
50
to
75
cyclists,
15
to
20
enjoyment,
15
to
20
driving
0
to
10.
The
point
here
is
that
the
current
plan
is
respectful
of
the
original
study
result.
Anything
less
for
us
would
be
very
disrespectful.
H
I
believe
torontonians
are
becoming
smarter
about
community
and
city
building
as
the
need
and
opportunity
calls
for
solutions.
The
fact
is:
local
businesses
prosper
when
people
are
interacting
with
businesses
at
eye
level,
people
need
ttc,
stops
cycling,
walking,
public
spaces,
cars
simply
create
more
problems
like
safety
pollution
wasted
space.
Of
course,
people
and
especially
businesses
need
vehicles.
H
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
definitely
approve
of
the
plan.
I
think
it's
a
great
thing
and
this
would
add
a
lot
of
joy,
a
lot
of
business
and
and
a
really
great
street
that,
as
someone
else
said,
you
know,
people
will
talk
about
in
other
parts
of
the
world
young
street.
As
far
as
I
know,
people
kind
of
go
there,
but
that's
what
you
do
you
go?
You
do
some
shopping
and
people
in
other
parts
of
the
world
aren't
really
talking
about
young
street.
They
talk
about
queen
west.
Thank.
H
L
L
L
I'm
speaking
this
morning
in
favor
of
safe
and
extensive
infrastructure
to
protect
cyclists,
pedestrians
and
transit
users.
On
october
3rd
2019
city
council
declared
a
climate
emergency
and
agreed
that
the
city
should
prioritize
emissions
reduction
in
transportation.
Retrofits,
including
quote
accelerating
the
implementation
of
transform
to
climate
actions
at
every
opportunity.
L
End
quote:
we
all
know
that
private
cars
have
a
higher
rate
of
emissions
than
any
other
mode
of
transport
more
than
10
times
the
rate
of
bicycling
or
walking.
The
easiest
way
to
reduce
our
city's
total
carbon
footprint
is
to
encourage
more
travel
using
non-car
modes
such
as
transit,
walking,
walking
and
cycling.
L
According
to
the
city's
vision,
zero
plan
travel
in
toronto
and
east
york,
which
includes
the
sections
of
yonge
street
under
consideration
here,
is
32
percent
by
car
37
by
transit
and
31
active
transport
such
as
biking
and
walking.
In
other
words,
people
arriving
by
car
account
for
less
than
a
third
of
all
the
visitors
to
the
area.
Yet
users
of
all
other
modes
must
crowd
together
on
the
narrow
sidewalks
or
in
the
case
of
cyclists,
the
gutter
to
make
room
for
cars
and
car
parking.
L
Of
course,
people
outside
of
cars
also
bear
the
greatest
risk
of
injury
or
death
from
inattentive
or
aggressive
drivers.
A
june
2019
article
in
the
cbc
summarized
studies
from
across
north
america,
which
showed
that
implementation
of
bike
lanes
increases
retail
and
restaurant
sales
on
the
affected
streets.
People
who
arrive
on
foot
or
by
bike
visit
more
shops
and
spend
more
money
overall
than
people
who
come
by
car,
low
or
no
traffic
streets,
encourage
tourists
and
residents
alike
to
linger,
make
impulse
purchases
stay
to
dine
and
build
community.
B
F
Hi,
I'm
here
to
talk
about
my
experience
as
a
ryerson
student
eating
salad,
king
young
street
was
dangerous,
stressful
and
crowded.
I
have
too
many
stories
of
almost
personally
being
hit
or
seeing
paramedics
working
on
injured
citizens,
and
that
was
over
a
decade
ago
with
the
growth
of
population.
It's
so
much
worse.
Now
as
a
mom
of
two
stalled
children,
logistically
it's
impossible
or
too
expensive
to
pay
for
parking
to
shop.
There,
cadillac
fairview,
if
your
price,
if
your
parking
prices
were
less
prohibitive
and
if
they
were
weren't,
always
full,
maybe
I
would
shop
there.
F
Why
would
I
drive
there
when
I
can
go
to
another
mall
with
the
same
stores
and
get
free
parking
somewhere
else?
Tourists
don't
come
to
downtown
toronto
to
drive
around,
and
I
shouldn't
need
to
point
out
the
spending
power
of
families
or
the
biggest
profit
margins
in
restaurant
is
alcohol.
Drivers
cannot
or
should
not
drink
as
much
as
pedestrians
or
those
who
take
public
transportation.
F
People
who
feel
the
same
as
a
native
of
toronto
born
just
around
the
corner
at
women's
college.
I
wonder
how
my
children
will
be
able
to
enjoy
their
city.
Integrated
areas
like
st
claire
and
lakeshore
are
constantly
busy,
and
let's
think
about
that,
I
was
going
to
talk
about
the
importance
of
green
infrastructure
to
the
physical
and
mental
health
of
its
citizens,
but
I'm
inspired
to
talk
about
dundas
square.
I
was
a
student
during
the
construction
and
design
of
that
embarrassment.
F
It's
a
cheap,
unimaginative
copy
of
times
square.
It
adds
nothing
to
toronto's
unique
identity.
If
it
was
designed
better
to
respect
people
as
more
than
just
eyeballs
for
corporate
advertising,
it
would
be
busier.
Its
opening
was
disappointing
at
best
for
anyone
I
knew
in
the
community.
The
billboards
do
not
did
not
make
the
area
popular.
The
death
of
the
pornographic
movie
theaters
did
this
and
who
wants
to
go
somewhere
and
have
ads
scream
at
you.
24
7,
especially
especially
in
the
modern
times
where
screens
and
ads
are
everywhere.
B
B
B
B
K
K
My
wife
and
I
have
lived
first
right
across
the
street
from
the
eaton
center
on
young
for
about
seven
months,
and
then
we
recently
purchased
a
place
at
young
and
maitland
on
the
east
side,
so
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
traveling
up
and
down
young,
primarily
as
a
pedestrian
a
little
bit
in
the
area
as
a
cyclist,
as
well
as
a
driver
and
a
user
of
transits.
With
all
that
experience.
K
Just
as
a
you
know,
member
of
the
neighborhood
user
of
the
area
and
and
someone
whose
primary
means
of
transportation
is
on
foot.
I
just
want
to
voice
my
very
strong
support
for
this
proposal
from
city
staff,
as
as
it
makes
its
way
through
the
process.
I,
as
I
said,
spend
a
lot
of
time
in
the
area
on
foot,
including
spending
a
lot
of
money
at
local
businesses,
whether
they
be
retailers,
you
know,
food
and
beverage,
restaurants,
cafes,
etc.
K
Grocery
stores,
all
of
that,
including
many
businesses
directly
on
young
and
for
me,
you
know,
I
think
the
whole
area
would
just
become
a
much
more
enjoyable
safer
place,
particularly
for
pedestrians,
but
also
for
other
users.
If
this
proposal
went
ahead-
and
so
I
just
want
to
voice
that
you
know
as
a
resident
as
a
very
frequent
user
of
the
area
voiced
my
strong
support
for
it
and,
as
others
have
at
least
one
other
deputy
mentioned.
K
If
there's
any
way
that
this
work
can
be
accelerated
and
as
I
now
live
north
of
college,
also,
the
work
from
from
college
to
bloor
be
accelerated
as
well.
That
would
have
my
full
support.
The
last
thing
you
know
I've
been
listening,
obviously
off
and
on
to
some
of
the
other
deputations,
including
those
from
business
owners
and
landlords
along
the
stretch
of
young
and
as
someone
who's
driven.
You
know
when
I
drop
you
know
I'll
rent,
a
car,
I
use
communal
audio
and
essentially
I
try
to
avoid
driving
on
young.
K
You
know
a
lot
of
the
intersections
are
restricted.
There's
a
lot
of
pedestrians
a
lot
going
on,
and
so
you
you
try
and
spend
as
little
time
on
young
as
possible
when
I'm
in
a
vehicle.
You
know,
that's
just
me:
I
use
bay,
I
use
jarvis,
I
use
church
and
so
the
idea
that
restricting
vehicle
traffic
on
young
will
have
substantial,
you
know
obviously
there'll
be
impacts,
but
but
the
benefits
to
increase
pedestrian
traffic
and
safety
for
businesses.
K
B
E
Okay,
thank
you.
Let
me
just
pull
my
notes
here.
I
want
to
thank
you
again
for
the
time
today
in
regards
to
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
report.
That's
before
infrastructure,
the
downtown
young
business
improvement
area
represents
more
than
2
000
businesses
and
their
employees,
as
well
as
the
broader
community
of
residents,
students
and
visitors
in
the
heart
of
downtown
toronto.
We
care
deeply
about
young
street
and
we
have
taken
an
active
interest
in
its
planning
for
its
future.
E
The
downtown
young
dia
has
taken
extensive
work
in
this
regard,
including
a
large
public
consultation
called
young
love.
We
surveyed
thousands
of
people
from
a
wide
range
of
backgrounds
and
demographics
to
understand
their
views
on
what
they
want
young
street
to
be
from
young
love
and
through
extensive
consultations
with
our
members
and
local
residents.
Five
key
priorities
had
emerged.
E
Ethics
playing
for
young
street
need
to
be
balanced,
taken
into
account
the
needs
of
the
entire
community
that
includes
business,
retail,
restaurants,
entertainment
employers,
employees,
residents,
visitors,
students,
pedestrians
and
commuters,
including
motorists.
Evidence-Based
plans
must
not
be
ideological.
E
They
need
to
be
based
on
empirical
facts
such
as
transportation
model,
modeling
traffic
data
function,
as
well
as
other
constitutions.
Three
different
viewpoints,
economics
downton,
is
critically
important
to
the
toronto
economy.
Planning
for
young
street
must
ensure
that
the
neighborhood
remains
healthy
from
business,
residential
entertainment
and
tourism
perspectives.
E
Fundamentally,
we
see
young
street
as
a
flex
street
temporarily
closed
for
vehicles
and
traffic
from
major
festivals
and
events
and
other
activations
that
boost
the
local
economy,
such
as
luminato
buskerfest
north
by
northeast
festivals,
but
otherwise
it
remains
open
for
regular
roadway
use.
There
are
many
examples
of
successful
flex
streets
from
around
the
world,
including
market
street
in
toronto,
dunbar
dundas
place
in
toront
and
london,
ontario
exhibition,
road
in
london,
england
and
even
new
york's
summer.
Final.
B
E
B
Q
Q
Okay,
thank
you
and
with
respect
to
your
deputation
today
about
perhaps
the
the
process
not
being
as
broad
as
it
could
have.
Perhaps
voices
not
being
heard
you,
I
hope,
did
have
a
chance
to
to
convey
these
concerns
to
staff?
Did
staff
not
sit
with
you
and
perhaps
to
delve
deeper
into
understanding
how
they
can
better
address
those
concerns?
Did
the
staff
not
do
that.
E
Through
you,
madam
chair,
I
think
counselor
just
maybe
some
additional
clarity
around
the
question
that
you're
asking
we
have
identified,
concerns
that
we've
had
in
regards
to
the
consultation
and
some
of
the
other
websites
and
information
that's
being
disseminated
again.
The
concern
has
been
is
there's
been
some
confusion
in
regards
to
the
bias
position
and
we've
stated
very
clearly
in
multiple
communications
not
only
to
the
project
team
but
to
the
mayor's
office
in
your
office
as
well
as
well
as
infrastructure
committee
on
the
concerns
we've
had
on
that
misinformation.
Q
Q
E
Through
you,
madam
chair
again,
councillor
very
good
question,
I
think
what
came
late
as
part
of
the
the
work
that
the
project
team
had
passed
into
the
community
late
on
friday
is
again
attachment
eight
in
attachment
eight.
It
still
shows
support
based
on
the
4d
recommendations,
so
we
would
voice
concern
on
those
potential
gates
and
look
forward
to
the
operational
plan
and
very
supportive
of
the
operational
plan.
G
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
to
follow
up
on
on
councillor
wong
tam's
question.
So
I've
got
page
four
of
the
staff
report
saying
that
the
downtown
young
business
improvement
area
has
been
advocating
for
public
realm
improvements
on
yonge
street
to
support
the
increasing
residential
commercial
growth.
So
when
I
read
a
sentence
like
that,
it
seems
that
you're,
supportive
and
then
I
also
have
your
letter
of
september,
the
11th
2020.
G
E
Through
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you,
mr
pastornack,
that
that
is
the
clarity.
There
has
been
some
confusion.
We
know-
and
we
have
stated
very
clearly
since
probably
2012,
based
on
the
extensive
work
we've
done,
that
there
has
been
a
need
for
a
pedestrian
improvement
on
yonge
street
and
that
we
support
and
have
been
pushing
those
designs.
And
this
conversation
a
lot
of
the
reports
that
we've
done
have
fed
into
the
young
tomorrow
initiative
that
the
transportation
department
has
initiated
what
we
are
not
supportive
of
is.
C
C
E
So
you,
madam
chair,
yes,
there's
over
two
thousand,
but
again
that
number
is
significantly
higher
when
you
start
to
take
into
account
the
employment
cluster,
and
we
did
do
detailed
surveys
with
our
members
and
all
our
members
support
our
position
as
identified
in
that
letter.
Counselor
pastor
act
that
you
mentioned
of
september
11th.
E
Through
you,
madam
chair,
I
think
the
clarity
point
is
based
on
attachment.
Eight
still
shows
infrastructure
that
support
4d
and
that's
what
we're
we
are
totally
not
for
a
pedestrian
experience
has
to
be
improved
on
young
street,
but
closing
for
pedestrian-only
zones
outside
of
functional
events.
Large
events
such
as
luminato
north
by
northeast
festival,
things
that
generate
economics
for
the
city
of
toronto.
B
F
Thank
you
good
morning
to
your
mckelvey
and
members
of
the
infrastructure
and
environment
committee.
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today.
I
support
the
young
tomorrow
project.
I've
been
a
resident
of
downtown
toronto
for
more
than
25
years,
and
I've
worked
in
finance
on
and
near
yonge
street
for
more
than
30
years
I
get
to
work
by
walking
or
by
riding
my
bike,
and
I
also
do
most
of
my
shopping
on
or
near
yonge
street.
F
Most
of
the
people
using
yonge
street
currently
take
transit,
walk
or
ride
a
bike,
but
the
sidewalks
on
yonge
street
are
far
too
narrow
to
accommodate
all
of
the
people
walking.
We
need
more
space
for
walkers
and
cyclists,
and
we
also
really
need
to
revitalize
yonge
street
and
make
it
safer
for
everyone.
F
The
young
tomorrow
project
will
accomplish
this
with
wider
sidewalks
pedestrian-only
areas
and
protected
cycle
lanes
in
some
areas.
Young
tomorrow
will
also
help
local
businesses
by
opening
up
more
space
on
young
street
for
patios,
cafes,
festivals
and
events
and
bring
more
people
to
the
area
when
the
raptors
won
the
nba
championship.
Where
did
torontonians
go
to
celebrate
young
street?
Of
course,
young
tomorrow
will
help
to
make
young
street
a
destination
where
people
from
all
across
toronto
will
want
to
come
to
shop
play
and
work.
F
Young
street
needs
to
become
a
roadway
that
better
accommodates
all
road
users
safely,
people
walking
people
riding
bikes,
people
in
wheelchairs,
parents
with
strollers
anyone
with
accessibility
issues
and
car
drivers.
We
need
a
young
street,
that's
safer
for
everyone
with
the
young
tomorrow
project
we
can
make
young
street
into
the
iconic
street.
We
all
know
it
is
help
local
businesses
and
make
young
streets
safer
for
everyone.
B
B
F
B
B
B
Q
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
My
question
to
staff
is
with
respect
to
the
new
concept
that
has
been
posted
concept
d,
if
I
may
just
to
to
summarize
I
I,
the
the
the
removal
of
the
operations,
was
to
clarify
for
those
who
are
reading
the
report
and
to
follow
the
work
that
you
are
interested
in.
Getting
approval
from
this
committee
on
the
physical
redesign
of
the
roadway,
which
is
the
primarily
the
widening
of
the
sidewalks,
the
tree
furniture
zones
and
and
the
the
reduction
of
lanes
of
traffic.
Is
that
correct.
L
Through
the
through
the
chair,
that
is
in
fact
correct
councillor
juan
tam,
as
you
know,
we
now
take
environmental
assessments
to
about
a
30
design,
and
so
in
doing
so,
we've
engaged
quite
significantly
with
stakeholders,
as
you've
heard
from
any
of
the
destitations.
We
have
a
lot
more
information.
We've
done
a
lot
of
modeling
to
understand
the
traffic
implications
both
of
the
physical
design
and
the
operations
plan.
But
what
is
before
council
today
is
just
the
physical
design.
Q
Thank
you,
and
with
respect
to
a
comment
made
by
a
deputy
mayor
that
that
there
was
no
consideration
of
of
the
counts
at
various
times
of
days,
meaning
the
council
of
vehicular
traffic
or
the
accounts
of
pedestrian
traffic.
That
is
not
my
reading.
The
report
did
transportation
staff
factor
in
the
different
types
of
modal
uses
at
different
times
of
day,
when
you
did
the
transportation
traffic
study.
L
Q
No,
that
was
that
was
just
that
was
very
sufficient.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
considered
because
it
was,
it
was
stated
that
it
was
not
and
with
respect
to
the
the
the
the
areas
that
are
prescribed
right
now
in
the
physical
design
of
the
roadway.
You
have
consulted
broadly
with
both
ride,
sharing
companies
as
well
as
ttc
about
and
toured
buses
and
so
forth,
and
delivery
companies
that
that
you
have
the
appropriate
spaces
for
the
physical
passenger,
pickup
drop
off
as
well
as
parcel
delivery.
Q
L
We
do,
and
we
also
know
as
you've
described,
that
the
the
through
movement,
the
two
lanes
that
stay
open,
really
are
designed.
The
physical
design
is
so
that
they
can
stay
open
all
the
time
we
know
there's
a
night
bus
that
runs
on
young
street
pretty
much
every
night.
We
need
to
have
the
flexibility
for
shuttle
buses
for
tpc
should
the
subway
break
down.
Q
My
last
question
is
with
respect
to
the
the
through
traffic.
I
did
not
read
in
the
report
that
there
was
any
recommendation
before
us,
the
fully
pedestrianized
the
roadway
all
year
round,
seasonal
or
otherwise,
that
there
was
always
the
availability
of
through
traffic
for
necessary
trips
with
respect
to
delivery
vehicles
or
perhaps
passenger
vehicles.
Is
that
not
the
intention
of
even
their
operation?
That
was
laid
over
concept,
d
or
c
that
that
there
was
always
going
to
be
available
access
for
vehicles
that
need
it.
L
L
We
wanted
to
reflect
what
we
heard
from
many
many
stakeholders
about
the
flexibility
of
using
the
street
for
different
configurations
different
time
of
day
different
day
of
week,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
that
went
into
the
initial
assessment
of
operational
plan
that
we'll
continue
to
work
on.
But
right
now
the
physical
design
allows
for
through
movement
of
vehicles,
24
7
as
as.
D
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
through
the
chair
just
just
really
quickly
on
the
stakeholder
group.
Could
you
just
take
us
back
and
and
tell
us
and
talk
us
through
what
the
process
of
consultation
has
been,
in
particular
with
respect
to
the
stakeholder
group,
but
also,
if
you
want
to
touch
on
the
the
larger
community
dialogue.
L
N
N
Yes,
certainly
the
the
physical
design,
I
think,
had
the
most
consensus
in
terms
of
the
level
of
support
from
various
stakeholders.
It's
the
operational
pieces
that
some
stakeholders
are
are
happy
with
and
and
others
are
not
and
there's
a
wide
range
of
opinion
on
all
sides
of
the
spectrum
on
that
and
it's
something
that
we
know
we
need
to
work
more
deeply
with
the
adjacent
property
managers
and
end
users
and
and
community
organizations
to
get
an
operational
plan
that
has
support
okay.
Thank
you.
C
Yeah,
so
I
I'm
listening
to
the
deputies
madam
chair,
and
what
I
hear
is
that
there's
general
agreement
and
support
for
pedestrian
improvements.
But
there
is
substantial,
significant
and
strong
opposition
about
elimination
of
of
two
lanes
on
yonge
street,
and
you
know
because
madam
chair
they're,
they're,
coming
from
by
and
large,
you
know
some
of
our
the
biggest
landlords,
as
well
as
small
ones,
on
yonge
street.
C
N
C
H
D
C
Without
I'm
not
finished,
please,
madam
chair,
without
taking
out
those
loot,
two
lanes
of
traffic
and
the,
for
example,
because
I
I
don't
agree
with
where
the
where
the
answer
was
going,
the
thing
that
they
were
doing
with
the
curbs,
that's
arguably
a
pedestrian
improvement,
it
doesn't
get
you
like
the
full,
the
full
thing
that's
being
proposed
in
this,
it's
more
more
modest,
but
you
know
it's
still
a
pedestrian
improvement
as
an
example,
miss
gray.
Can
you
comment
on?
Maybe
you
can
under
capture
you
can
understand
where
I'm
going
with
this.
L
Yes,
deputy
mayor
through
the
chair,
so
certainly
there
are
always
improvements
that
we
can
make
related
to
safety.
I
do
think
that
they
are
going
to
be
quite
modest
and
limited
as
you
described
if
we
do
not
have
the
ability
to
expand
the
the
sidewalk
area.
What
we
learned
from
this
discussion
is
that
the
the
predominance
of
people
who
are
down
in
this
area
using
young
street
are
pedestrians.
L
We
have
a
significant
issue
in
terms
of
being
able
to
fit
those
pedestrians
on
the
existing
sidewalks,
with
the
width
that
they
have
right
now,
and
so
that
is
why-
and
I
think,
while
we
may
not
have
complete
consensus,
we
have
probably
the
most
strong
support
along
amongst
the
advisory
group
in
terms
of
improving
making
significant
improvements
for
safety
and
access
for
pedestrians.
And
so
that's
why
the
proposal
has
been
to
expand
the
sidewalks
and
to
do
that,
we
do
need
to.
C
Take
I'm
just
one
other,
it's
a
real
short
one.
Is
there
a
rec,
because
the
report
only
talks,
it
primarily
focuses
on
the
recommended
option
and
there
were
a
number
of
options
in
the
environmental
assessment.
Is
there
one
that
that
captures
you
know
doing
some
pedestrian
enhancements
without
taking
out
the
two
lanes?
L
To
the
chair,
we
we
certainly
started,
I
believe,
with
20
options,
but
I
believe
that
the
ones
that
got
shortlisted,
if
you
will
through
the
process,
I
believe
there
were
three
that
that
ultimately
got
us.
It
slid
down
to
three
options.
I
believe
that
all
of
them
removed
went
to
an
expanded
sidewalk
with
with
two
wings.
Jaclyn
will
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
there
might
have
been
one
in
there,
but
that's
not.
G
G
N
N
G
N
I
would
say
that
that
we
did
hear
quite
a
bit
of
support
from
the
business
community
around
improving
the
pedestrian
experience.
You
heard
from
great
eagle
as
a
developer,
for
example
earlier
that
expressed
a
great
deal
of
support
in
reducing
the
number
of
lanes
on
young
from
four
to
two
and
improving
the
pedestrian
space.
G
N
I
think
a
lot
of
the
business
concerns
counselor
was
about
potential
concepts
for
operations
that
included
pedestrian
zones
for
certain
hours,
that
included
turning
restrictions,
at
particular
intersections
through
movement
restrictions.
Those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
we
need
to
work
more
deeply
with
stakeholders
on
to
understand
that
and
also
understand
the
needs
of
the
business
environment
as
we
respond
and
recover
from
the
copen
19
pandemic,
because
we
don't
want
to
put
forward
an
operations
plan
that
would
be
that
would
seem
detrimental
to
local
business.
At
the
present
time.
B
L
N
B
Thank
you
and
then
my.
My
second
question
is
how
many
more
pedestrians
have
we
had
over
the
last
decade
or
so,
and
how
many
more
are
anticipated.
So,
for
example,
my
community,
we
we're
go,
train
commuters,
people
take
the
go
train
in
and
then
walk
up
from
young,
and
we
know
the
go.
Train
is
switching
to
15
minutes
service
there'll
be
even
more
people
that
are
coming
into
the
downtown
course.
So
how
are
how?
What
are
the
projections
that
we
have
for
pedestrians.
N
Over
the
last
20
years,
councillor,
the
walking
in
the
area
has
doubled,
which
is
so
a
current
current
mode
here
of
24,
and
over
that
time
you
know
about
transit
increases,
ttc
use
scenario
has
increased
to
49,
and
regional
entry
into
the
core
by
go.
Transit
has
increased
to
41,
as
well,
so
with
increased
residential
intensification
along
the
young
corridor.
That
walk
experience
for
people
who
are
live
work
within
the
core,
as
well
as
continued
commuting
into
the
core
and
walking
on
yonge
street.
B
Q
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
staff
for
the
presentation
and
to
all
the
deputies
who
either
called
in
or
perhaps
sent
emails
I
actually
was,
was
really
just
impressed
with
the
volume
of
engagement
to
this
to
the
transportation
staff
and
the
consultants
who
are
probably
listening
on
the
call
and
those
who
answer
the
questions
I
just
want
to
convey.
First
of
all,
thank
you.
Thank
you
to
you
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done.
Q
The
question
before
us,
madam
speakers,
whether
or
not
we
put
the
roadway
back
in
exactly
the
same
configuration
as
we
found
it
with
the
narrow,
inadequate
sidewalks
with
the
four
lanes
of
traffic,
which
is
perhaps
what
some
people
are
suggesting.
Is
that
don't
change
too
much,
maybe
plan
to
tree
or
change
the
paver,
but
put
back
the
four
lanes
of
traffic.
That
is
not
a
viable
option,
not
for
the
21st
century
and
not
for
a
city
with
a
downtown
core.
That
is
anticipating
that
the
residential
and
employment
growth
cluster
to
double
and
by
2041..
Q
Already
throughout
the
staff
report,
there
were
recommendations
that
it
is
woefully
inadequate.
The
sidewalk
widths,
the
substandard
conditions
of
where,
where
we
ask
vulnerable
road
users
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
refine
that
work.
So
I'm
very
pleased
with
the
the
recommendations
from
the
staff
report,
because
I
think
that
it
actually
gets
us
to
a
good
place.
Q
We
are
forward
thinking
and
front
facing
now
with
this
report,
how
we
actually
overlay
that
with
the
operational
pieces
afterwards,
which
of
course
will
not
be
available
to
us
until
2023
aft
after
another,
two
years
of
robust
consultation,
that
will
be
done
in
in
almost
a
post
coded
era.
I'd
like
to
think
optimistically,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
we
no
longer
know.
Are
we
going
to
have
the
same
type
of
teleworking
environment
as
we
do
today
in
kobet,
are
we
going
to
see
the
employment
clusters
come
back?
Q
We
would
like
to
think
so,
but
we
need
to
be
able
to
adapt
and
change
to
that.
My
prediction,
madam
speaker,
is
that
we're
going
to
see
downtown
toronto-
roar
back,
as
I
think
martin
reyes
has
has
noted,
but
he
also
wisely
stated
that
it
is
going
to
take
some
time
for
us
to
recover,
and
that
is
going
to
be
the
economic
reality.
Part
of
our
recovery
effort,
I
believe,
in
the
downtown
core,
is
to
build
a
more
vibrant,
more
inclusive,
more
beautiful
and
competitive
street.
Q
So,
therefore,
we
are
going
to
be
competitive
with
other
areas
in
the
city,
but
also
other
areas
in
the
region
and
within
the
north
american
context.
So
I
just
want
to
be
able
to
speak
to
those
points.
Madam
speaker,
I
recognize
my
time
is
up,
but
also
to
state
that
we
do
have
some
very
broad
support
from
the
business
community,
who
also
wrote
letters
submitting
that
support.
Q
I'm
just
going
to
note
a
few
of
them
because
I
think
it's
important,
and
that
includes
canned
rail,
mod
development,
center
court
development,
concord,
8x,
kilmore
dream
prominent
landowners
and
developers
on
the
street
and-
and
I
think
that
list
will
continue
to
grow
because
they're
heavily
invested
in
the
street,
along
with
the
area
residents
and
the
businesses
for
the
years
to
come.
None
of
these
folks
are
leaving
tomorrow,
they're
all
committed
to
young
street,
as
am
I
as
a
local
counselor,
but
also
as
an
area
resident.
So
thank
you
very
much.
M
Yes,
as
council
montan
said,
this
is
a
herculean
tasks,
that's
been
underway
and
will
continue
to
be
underway
as
again
precipitated
by
the
fact
that
we
have
to
replace
that
water
main
that
was
put
in
in
about
1879,
I
think,
is
the
year.
So
we
have
no
choice
but
to
do
that,
and
as
a
result
of
that,
it's
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
future
country
to
2079..
M
And
so
maybe
that's
what
this
is
all
about.
So
there's
no
simple
way
of
doing
this.
It's
all
going
to
require
all
kinds
of
ongoing
consultation,
planning,
advice
and
listening
to
people,
and
I
was
impressed
by
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
the
business
interests,
small
business
and
cadillac
fairway-
you
know
they
had
a
legitimate
concern
about
what
is
it
going
to
do
their
business,
especially
like
that
we're
in
this
pandemic
world
here?
M
I've
from
the
beginning
said
that
this
pandemic
is
not
a
short
hit.
I
remember
people
saying
oh
well,
they'd
be
over
in
two
months
one
month
I
think
we're
into
this
pandemic
reality
for
the
years
to
come.
So
what
we
see
downtown
there
in
the
towers
is
going
to
change
dramatically.
People
have
successfully
worked
from
home
and
many
of
them
are
going
to
continue
to
work
from
home.
M
We
have
to
face
everywhere
that
this
thing
isn't
going
to
go
away
and
and
with
all
the
variants
and
all
the
mutations
and
we've
got
to
include
this
type
of
dramatic
impact
on
our
city
that
the
pandemic
is
causing
in
all
the
infrastructure
work.
We
do
and
we
can't
talk
about
well
recovery,
recovery,
yeah.
We
all
want
recovery,
but
this
pandemic
isn't
going
away
folks.
M
C
Motion,
I
refer
the
report
from
the
general
manager,
transportation
services
back
to
staff,
to
report
back
on
july
5th,
2021
meeting
of
the
infrastructure
environment
committee
on
an
alternative
that
enhances
pedestrian
features
and
does
not
remove
full
lanes
of
traffic.
This
is
a
interesting,
interesting
debate.
54
deputies.
I
didn't,
I
really
didn't
know
what
they
were
all
going
to
say.
C
C
So
they're
self-interested
to
you,
know
keeping
cars
out
of
removing
more
cars
and
that's
why
and
making
it
harder
to
travel
downtown
because
that's
you
know
that
suits
their
interest
and
that's
why
we
see
you
know
that
more
congestion
from
king
street
university
lure
wellesley,
all
the
you
know
all
the
bike
lanes
that
have
been
put
in
that
that
can
that
have
when
you
combine
them
all
all
clog
traffic
and
discourage
people
from
coming
coming
downtown.
The
second
people
are
the
businesses
and
not.
C
C
You
know
that
the
the
gentleman
who
deputed
at
the
beginning
from
king
who
was
telling
us
a
very
personal
story
about
this,
what
this
will
do
to
his
business,
and
I
think
we
have
to
listen
to
him-
you
and
we
heard
from
the
advertisers
and
they're
they're.
Just
they
know
about
you,
know
eyes
on
the
street.
They
know
that
who's
on
that
street
because
they
they
have
to
know
it's
their
business
and
then
there
are
the
anchor
to
the
anchor
groups
like
the
eaton
center
and
what
would
the
downtown
be
without
the
eaton
center?
C
C
You
know
out
in
scarborough
how
you
know
how
many
people
go
down
to
the
eaton
center
when
they
want
to
do
their
christmas
shopping.
We
all
have
an
interest
in
this,
and
and
not
everybody
can
walk
downtown
and
you
can't
take
your
family
of
five
down
to
take
transit
every
time
you
want
to
come
downtown,
so
we
all
have
a
vested
interest
in
this,
as
does
councillor.
Layton
is
shaking
his
head.
C
So
so,
where
I
see
the
difference
is
everybody
wants.
Everybody
will
support
the
enhanced
pedestrian
features,
but
where
there
is
actually
a
fundamental
disagreement
is
on
the
these
two
lanes
taking
out
these
lanes
of
traffic,
and
I
and
I
asked
staff
if
they'd
come
up
with
an
alternative
just
to
do,
albeit
more
modest
pedestrian
enhancements.
C
Do
the
pedestrian
enhancements
without
removing
the
lanes.
It's
certainly
not
going
to
be
as
aggressive
as
as
some
members
of
the
public
and
some
members
of
council
may
envision.
It
will
be
more
modest,
but
I'd
like
to
see
it
because,
quite
frankly,
the
report
as
it's
presented
today
leaves
a
significant
and,
I
think,
important
group
of
people
and
businesses.
C
Who've
invested
a
great
great
sums
of
money
and
a
lot
of
members
of
the
public
who
you
know
from
the
report,
aren't
deciding
to
come
downtown
anymore
because
they
don't
want
the
aggro
and
they
we
shouldn't
have
that
approach
where
we're
discouraging
them
not
to
come
downtown
anymore.
So
this
this
is
an
arrangement.
I
I
can't
support
the
support
report
as
it
is,
and
that's
why
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
send
it
back
and
come
up
with
an
alternative
that
might
make
you
know
some
of
the
people
that
are
so
upset
about
this.
Q
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
through
you
to
the
deputy
mayor
with
respect
to
the
motion.
If
we
were
to
do
nothing
other
than
to
just
perhaps
try
to
improve
the
existing
sidewalk
conditions
with
what
we
currently
have,
we
don't
even
need
an
ea
based
on
your
based
on
your
referral,
because
you're
saying
to
leave
the
lanes
of
traffic
exactly
as
is
four
lanes,
don't
do
anything
and
then
ask
staff
to
do
some
landscape
work
and
come
back
to
the
next.
C
C
I
I
didn't
so
that
what
I
am
proposing
is
seeing
what
we
can
do.
I
I'm
not
you
know,
maybe
the
the
lanes,
I
I'm
not
sure.
Maybe
this
is
true.
Maybe
it's
not.
Maybe
you
can
make
the
lanes
a
little
bit
skinnier,
I'm
not.
I
don't
know
what
the
the
width
of
the
lanes
are
and
I'm
not
saying
it's
just
simply
landscaping.
Maybe
you
can
do
some
curb
work.
Maybe
there
are
things
other
than
then
just
there
are
other
things
that
we
can
do.
Q
Thank
you.
I
don't
think
that
is
correct.
I
don't
think
we
do
have
a
lot
of
time
and
the
reason
being
is
because
we
have
to
bundle
this
with
the
infrastructure
work
for
the
water
main.
But
a
follow-up
question
to
you
for
you,
deputy
mayor,
is
with
respect
to
the
the
folks
that
you
are
advocating
for
today.
I
heard
only
two
speakers
today
that
advocated
for
the
the
retention
of
the
four
lanes
of
traffic.
Q
But
for
the
speakers
who
spoke
today,
deputy
mayor,
I
only
heard
two
speakers,
and
that
was
mr
ray
and
mr
seaman,
both
from
cadillac
fairview
and
branded
cities.
Those
were
the
only
two
proponents
who
said
leave
the
four
lanes
of
traffic.
As
is
the
street
functions
just
fine.
Is
that
not
correct?
Did
you
hear
that
as
well.
C
D
I'll
be
very
brief,
because
I'm
quite
convinced
that
this
referral
won't
pass.
Please
don't
vote
for
this
report.
Referral
doing
nothing,
isn't
an
option
here.
It
was
considered
as
part
of
the
ea.
Perhaps
the
deputy
mayor
could
look
back
and
actually
look
at
some
of
the
material
that
was
presented
because
I
know
he
didn't
attend
those
meetings
I
don't
expect
them
to,
but
the
reality
is
that
most
stakeholders,
as
well
as
the
communities
in
in
the
area
and
I
believe
across
the
city,
actually
support
this
move.
I
believe
it's
balanced
and
measured.
D
It
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
operational
aspects
which
I
would
prefer
to
talk
about
now,
but
I
see
there's
being
some
value
in
continuing
that
dialogue,
but
we
should
be
moving
ahead
with
the
ea.
Now
it
has
been
years
in
the
making
there.
The
staff
have
studied
to
death
the
different
options,
and
one
of
them
was
exactly
what
the
the
deputy
mayor
has
brought
forward
and
that's
the
do-nothing
option
as
it's
considered
in
all
environmental
assessments.
G
G
The
downtown
young
bia
represents
more
than
2
000
businesses,
and
the
eden
center
is
is
a
major
tourist
attraction.
It
not
only
has
a
wide
selection
of
retail,
but
also
dozens
of
businesses
in
their
office
towers.
So,
in
fact,
the
voices
that
have
come
today
have
raised
concern
represent
thousands
of
businesses
and,
of
course,
tens
of
thousands
of
people
who
work
there.
It's
important
to
remember
that
when
a
business
closes,
it's
not
just
a
business
owner
that
suffers,
who
may
have
put
his
life
savings
into
the
business
may
have
mortgaged.
G
His
house
may
have
taken
out
a
large
loans
may
have
signed
personal
guarantees,
but
in
many
of
these
businesses,
particularly
in
in
food
and
beverage,
the
poorest
of
the
poor
lose
their
jobs
and
and
and
that
is
a
major
major
setback
for
for
our
community.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
I
think
we
have
to
find
a
balance
here
and
sending
it
back
for
a
sober.
G
Second
look
is
prudent,
it's
responsible
and
gives
us
a
chance
to
really
digest
some
of
the
things
before
us
and
kind
of
decipher
through
some
of
the
contradictions
that
also
exist,
the
disconnect
between
what's
written
in
the
port
and
some
of
the
correspondence
we've
seen
so
I
would
I
would
encourage
you
to
support
it.
Referral.
B
Okay,
thank
you
any
one
else
to
speak
on
the
item.
Okay,
I
I
appreciate
that
the
concerns
of
the
deputy
mayor,
I
won't
be
voting
for
referral.
This
is
starting
an
ea
which
also
has
a
consultation,
and
so
there
is
still
additional
options.
You
know
the
do-nothing
option
is
usually
included
in
that
ea
and
it
would
be
a
consideration
of
this
ea
which
would
get
ministerial
approval.
B
I
think
there
is
consensus
that
we
need
to
widen
the
sidewalks.
It
is
very
unsafe
and
while
we're
not
building
additional
parking
in
the
downtown
core,
we
are
increasing,
go
train
service
considerably
we're
increasing
the
number
of
condominiums
that
are
around
the
area,
and
we
can
expect
that
the
number
of
pedestrians
is
going
to
increase
very
rapidly
over
the
next
decade.
B
So
I
won't
be
voting
in
support
of
this
referral
because
we
do
need
to
get
going
with
this
item.
The
water
mains
are
quite
old
and
we
need
to
decide
on
the
location
of
the
sidewalk
so
that
detailed
design
can
happen
for
both
the
road,
but
also
so
that
toronto
water
can
start
planning.
So
with
that,
we'll
move
to
the
vote.
B
D
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
as
I'd
first
like
to
thank
city
staff
for
their
work
on
this.
They
they
did
put
a
lot
of
energy
and
resources
into
ensuring
that
this
was
done
right.
It's
a
complex
neighborhood
with
with
it
complex
needs,
as
well
as
a
variety
of
different
stakeholders
and
because,
as
as
councilor
minimum
said,
it's
not
a
local
issue.
D
It's
not
solely
a
local
issue,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
people
involved
locally.
That
didn't
have
the
benefit
of
participating
in
this
in
this
dialogue
here
today.
But
I
think
that
where
what
the
deputy
mayor
got
dead
wrong
was
the
direction
that
that
we're
being
sent
in
by
both
the
public,
as
well
as
by
our
own
city
policies
and
goals.
D
I'd
also
like
to
thank
councillor
wong
tam
for
for
all
of
her
work
on
this
for
the
years
of
leadership
that
she's,
given
this
file
again
with
a
with
a
complex
set
of
relationships.
Here,
there
are
political
complexities
that
the
councilman
wong
has
done
very
well
in
managing
throughout
throughout
the
process,
along
with
staff.
D
We
don't
want
to
do
this
work
twice,
so
we
have
to
look
forward
as
to
what
our
needs
will
be:
10,
15,
20
years
down
the
road,
and
when
you
look
at
that
and
what
they're
doing
in
other
cities
is
going
along
this
route
of
pedestrianizing,
the
some
of
their
core
shopping
streets,
and
it
doesn't
take
long
to
look
at
some
of
the
long-standing
examples
like
the
strogan.
In
in
copenhagen
1962
that
work
was
done
and,
yes,
it
was
met
with
opposition,
but
just
two
years
after
the
trial
it
was
met
with
with
open
arms.
D
They
had
the
exact
same
debates
we're
having
here
today
with
some
business
owners
from
from
higher
end
businesses.
Saying
this
can't
be
done.
This
can't
be
done.
The
reality
is,
it's
happening
all
over
the
world
and
the
second
is
key
to
fulfilling
our
our
city
objection,
objectives,
vision,
zero,
transform
to
our
downtown
secondary
plan,
all
of
them
hinge
on
projects
like
this.
I
want
to
make
one
more
observation,
just
based
on
one
of
the
the
deputations
that
were
that
that
was
made
by
the
folks
from
the
eaton
center.
They
have
1300
parking
spaces.
D
50
million
yorkdale
has
18
18
million
at
50
million.
It's
the
it's,
the
the
mall
in
north
america,
with
the
highest
volume
of
people,
yet
they
have
15
of
the
parking
of
yorkdale.
So
how
are
people
getting
there?
Well,
a
recent
study
by
the
retail
retail
council
of
canada,
which
did
a
scan
of
canadian
shopping
centers
in
2017,
determined
and
highlighted
that
if
town
population
and
transit
access
that
are
driving
successful,
downtown
malls,
it's
not
parking
spaces.
D
D
B
C
D
C
D
D
C
C
B
G
Yes,
no
thank
you
very
much
and
advertising
can
be
annoying,
but
it's
a
multi-billion
dollar
industry
and
without
billboards
our
arts
community
would
would
collapse
no
fan
of
of
tacky
advertising,
but
I
should
point
out
a
visit
to
times
square,
maybe
maybe
probably
the
best
educational
tool
one
can
use
when
debating
illuminated
billboards
in
squares.
I'll,
preface
my
comments
by
saying
that
you
know
I
supported
bike
lanes
in
the
area
I
represent.
G
G
I
support
it
as
a
form
of
exercise
and
I
support
greater
safeties
for
vulnerable
road
users,
but
I
am
concerned
about
about
our
economic
vitality.
I
am
concerned
about
our
economy
and
I
am
concerned
about
the
the
battering
the
stores
have
taken
over
the
last
nine
months
or
so
and
believe
me,
we
we
take
counselors.
G
I
know
that
the
part
of
this
debate
was
talking
about
parking
spots
and
I
believe
my
notes
here
about
1400
parking
spots
that
are
at
the
eaton
center
and
that
those
are
small
fraction
of
the
people
who
are
coming
but
400
cars,
and
it
may
be
more
than
that.
I
don't
know
how
many
people
stay
there
the
whole
day.
It
may
be
2500
cars
with
two
to
three
people
in
each
and
and
a
trunk
to
load
up
high-end
goods
with
high
margins.
G
This
is
a
crucial
part
of
the
retail
sector
to
have
people
who
are
who
are
coming
down.
That
could
be
three
to
four
thousand
people
a
day
coming
down
and
buying
products
that
can
only
be
transported
by
by
car
high-end
high-end
products
and
at
the
same
time,
that
it
produces
revenue
through
parking.
I
assume
it's
not
free
and
then
it's
important
very
important
to
have
so
with
that.
I
think
more
work
has
to
be
done
on
that.
G
B
So
the
motion
is
asking
for
a
supplementary
report
to
council
that
just
has
some
clarifications
on
what
it
is
that
we're
approving,
through
this
environmental
assessment
process,
outlining
what
the
next
steps
are
for
detailed
design,
operations,
planning
and
construction
and
summarizing
the
next
steps
for
consultation
and
engagement.
In
addition,
item
two
is
asking
that
the
general
manager
of
transportation
services
be
made
available
to
brief
stakeholders,
including
downtown
young
business
improvement
areas
about
the
environmental
assessment
process
and
what
it
is
that
we
are
approving
here
today.
B
There
is
a
water
work
from
1889
that
needs
to
be
upgraded.
Toronto.
Water
needs
to
be
able
to
do
that
design
work
and
to
do
that,
they
need
to
know
where
the
curbs
are
going
to
be
located
that
triggers
an
ea
process
that
could
be
lengthy
and
that
we
need
to
get
started
here
today
by
by
approving
this
item
and
moving
it
on
into
council.
B
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
different
views
on
this,
as
you
would
expect,
given
the
the
very
nature
of
the
stakeholders
that
are
involved,
but
I
think
there
is
a
large
consensus
that
we
do
need
to
improve
the
pedestrian
realm.
We
have
more
pedestrians
on
yonge
street
than
we're
ever
anticipated,
and
that
number
is
going
to
grow
very
quickly
over
the
next
few
decades
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
revitalize
the
street
in
a
way
that
accommodates
that
and
and
keeps
people
safe.
B
B
B
D
B
I
Is
that
sorry,
a
webex
noise,
about
the
request
that
city
council
made
to
look
at
the
impact
of
the
above
ground,
ontario
line
on
the
six
bridges
that
have
to
be
remediated
in
order
to
achieve
an
above
ground
line
and
the
impact
on
all
of
the
transit
that
uses
those
particular
streets
that
most
particularly
be
gerard,
where
there's
two
bridges
and
and
queen
street
and
eastern
with
chesterbots
and
then
on
traffic
in
the
neighborhood.
So
I
don't
know
where
that
sits,
and
if
you
can
tell
us,
if
you
understand
that
impact.
Yet.
I
L
I
So
are
you
telling
me
that
we're
going
to
give
this
information
to
metrolinx
for
their
ea,
which
is
an
above
ground
line,
or
are
we
trying
to
have
this
information
in
order
for
metrolinx
to
perhaps
revisit
its
position
on
the
above
ground
ontario
line?
I
think
they're
very
far
ahead
on
that
and
they
don't
have
any
impact
from
the
city.
T
So
the
madam
chair,
the
the
intent
of
the
counselor,
the
intent
of
this,
was
to
determine
what
the
impact
was
as
you've
as
you've
suggested.
Try
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
what
would
happen
to
these
structures,
what
impact
it
would
have
on
the
city
and
then
for
us
to
make
sure
that
metrolinx
understood
that
these
impacts
could
potentially,
you
know,
create
a
problem
for
us.
So
the
idea
would
be
that
we
would
share
this
information
with
them
so
that
they
can
address
this
because
they're,
the
only
ones
that
can
address
this.
L
Closings,
so
I
can
start
with
that
counselor
I
mean
the
this
this
report
through
the
chair.
This
report
is
certainly
something
that
is
not
very
different,
except
at
a
location
that
transportation
services
has
the
delegated
authority
to
close
these
roads
for
specific
permitted
work
that
metrolinx
brings
forward
to
us
or
their
consultants
as
part
of
their
infrastructure
program
that
they
deliver.
So
it
is
a
long
time
frame.
L
The
reason
why
we
put
the
first
one
of
these
in
place
a
number
of
years
ago,
as
I
understand,
is
because
we
were
having
to
write
a
report
to
the
community
council
each
and
every
time
that
that
a
project
was
going
forward.
Instead,
we
have
a
staff,
and
I
think,
you've
met
navi
tascar,
who
works
for
ashley
curtis,
who
worked
deliberately
with
metrolinx
and
the
transit
expansion
office
and
the
local
councillors.
When
these
programs
come
forward
to
minimize
the
closures
and
we've
had
some
issues
that
have
cropped
up.
I
think
you're
you.
L
You
know
that
for
sure
that
we've
had
some
issues,
and
so
we
continue
to
refine
that
process,
but
it
is
really
just
to
not
have
us
come
back
to
council
every
time
that
we
need
to
do.
What
typically
is
a
relatively
temporary
closure,
and
I
don't
know
if
ashley
wants
to
or
needs
to
add
anything
to
that.
J
M
Has
there
ever
been
any
compensation
given
to
small
businesses
for
the
obstruction
and
construction
and
the
removal
of
parking
and
the
blocking
of
stores?
As
a
result
of
all
this
construction
by
metrolinx?
Has
there
ever
been
any
compensation
given
to
small
businesses?
Who've
been
in
many
cases?
You
know
my
ward.
I've
got
150
businesses
closed
because
of
the
england
crosstown.
Not
one
of
them
has
got
one
cent
from
metrolinx.
L
To
the
chair,
I
can
certainly
let
derek
weigh
in
here
as
well.
Certainly,
we've
worked
previously
with
economic
development
and
culture
in
doing
our
best
to
support
businesses.
As
I
know,
metrolinx
has
a
program
as
well
to
support
businesses.
I
don't
believe
it's
financial
support,
but
again
the
work
that
we're
doing
now.
I
know
we
just
launched.
I
believe
it
council
direction
a
little
jamaica
economic
development
study
that
we'll
be
working
on
to
figure
out
ways
to
help
support
businesses.
T
So
through
you,
madam
chair,
if
I
could
add
counselor
in
discussions,
we
have
raised
this
continuously
with
metro
links.
Metro
links
confirms
back
to
us
that
there
are
provisions
within
the
project
agreement,
which
is
the
contract
between
them
and
project
co,
to
deal
with
issues
of
what
they
call
injurious
affection,
which
is
impacts
to
businesses
and
closures
that
they
may
be
experiencing.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
on
this
one.
I've
just
my
staff
have
kindly
determined
that
it
was
october
2019
that
that
this
request
was
made
for
the
study
on
on
the
six
bridges
and
just
to
confirm.
I
think
some
of
them
belong
to
the
city.
These
bridges
and
some
of
them
belong
to
metro
links
and
some
of
them
I
believe
they're
most
of
them
are
at
least
100
years
old.
Could
someone
confirm
that
the
age
of
the
bridges
or,
if
you
don't
know
the
answer?
I
I
think
that
I
think
that
would
come
out
in
this
report
and
that
I'm
just
really
clear.
I
guess
I
just
would
like
to
ask
our
deputy
city
manager,
if
I
can,
because
I'm
really
unclear
as
to
if
this
material
is
being
developed
in
order
to
inform
metrolinx
about
the
route
which
is
actually
which
is
the
best
way
to
go
above
ground
or
underground.
I
So
I
I
think,
that's
why
I
moved
that
motion
I'm
unclear
as
to.
If
that
is
the
role
of
the
the
report,
I'm
I
doesn't
sound
like
it
to
me.
That's
the
first
thing
in
second:
have
we
made
it
really
clear
to
metrolinx
that
that
the
city's
preferred
alternative
is
to
run
this
one
kilometer
stretch
underground.
T
T
I
T
I
No,
I
understand
all
of
that,
but
they're
asking
they
need
to
attach
six
bridges,
six
flankages
onto
our
bridges.
They
need
to
close.
They
need
to
do
a
lot
of
things
that
are
very
different
than
any
other
part
of
any
other
transit
project,
and
the
impact
will
be
quite
significant.
So
I
think
that
is.
That
is
the
issue
here
with
metrolinx:
it's
not
their
priority,
it's
establishing
our
priority
with
them,
whether
they
agree
or
not,
but
I
think
we
we
have
not
given
the
evidence
or
established
our
priority.
Clearly
enough,
apparently.
T
So,
sir
counselor,
we
we
continue.
As
I
said
before,
we
continue
to
to
push
on
like
they've
you
to
you're
correct
they've.
They
are
going
to
be
impacting
numerous
structures
within
your
award,
and
we've
asked
them
to
do
the
necessary
investigations
to
provide
to
us
the
necessary
information
that
allows
us
to
just
to
see
how
what
what
rationale
they
used
for
for
going
above
grade.
That
reporting
that
we
are
preparing
with
our
colleagues
in
transportation
services
is
in
order
to
to
do
our
own
assessment
of
this
and
to
right.
Yeah.
I
But
the
issue
about
having
an
impact
on
the
neighborhood.
There
is
a
tremendous
impact
on
city
infrastructure,
tremendous
impact
on
city
infrastructure
and
we're
preparing
here
to
give
them
just
a
cart
launch
for
our
infrastructure.
Does
that
concern
you
at
all?
Considering
we
don't
know
the
impact
on
our
infrastructure.
T
So
so
again
through
you,
madam
chair
anytime,
that
there
is
an
impact,
the
city
it
concerns
me
and-
and
I've
heard
your
concerns
counselor
and
again
we
continue
to
as
I
can.
I
can
only
re-emphasize.
We
continue
to
push
on
metrolinx
to
give
us
the
information
that
will
help
support
the
questions
or
answer
the
questions
that
you
are.
I
T
B
M
No,
I
just
haven't,
had
my
question
answered
whether
general
manager,
barbara
gray
or
derek
teugel,
can
give
me
any
information.
That
indicates,
if
there's
been
any
compensation
given
to
the
businesses
that
have
been
affected
by
10
years
of
the
ego
than
crosstown
construction
by
metrolinx
by
the
province.
Has
there
been
any
compensation.
T
Through
you,
madame
through
you,
madam
chair
to
you
counselor,
we
are
not.
We
have
not
been
privy
to
any
sort
of
commercial
arrangement,
that's
existed
between
metrolinx
and
any
one
of
the
businesses
other
than
the
confirmation
that
metrolinx
has
said
that
they
have
through
this
process
that
they've
established
engaged
with
businesses
to
allow
them
to
to
seek
compensation.
M
I
Minutes
I
will
and
I'll
I'll
just
start,
and
I
probably
will
talk
to
you
counselor
call
between
now
and
council,
because
there
is
a
process
I
know
of
where
that
larger
corporations
use
and
pricewaterhousecoopers
is
there
at
the
beginning
and
that's
how
they
go
for
compensation.
I
know
that
is
the
way
the
ttc
does
it,
but
it's
something
that
I
think
the
bia
office
could
be
more
helpful
with
in
establishing
that
parameters.
In
order
to
get
that,
I'm
not
aware
of
any
small
business,
that's
ever
received
anything
from
any
large
transit
project.
I
I
do
just
want
to
note,
and
I'm
glad
you
did,
that
counselor
call.
You
said
10
years
365
days
a
year,
that's
3650
days
for
which
we're
delegating
authority
to
all
of
these
roads-
and
I
just
want
to
point
out-
and
I
thank
you
for
your
answers,
mr
toygo,
and
I'm
glad
you
were
able
to
be
on
the
call
that
these
requests
that
were
made.
I
I
What
was
two
kilometers
and
now
is
one
kilometer
of
ontario
law.
It
does
have,
I
believe,
a
big
impact
on
city
infrastructure
and
when
I
say
infrastructure,
I'm
at
the
environment,
parks
and
environment
committee
and
that's
exactly
transportation
and
parks
will
have
a
great
impact
from
any
of
this
above
ground
work,
as
I've
noted
before
all
of
the
trees,
which
isn't
a
subject
of
conversation
here
today
that
are
along
the
line
of
the
property,
will
all
have
to
be
removed,
that
the
walls
will
come
right
into
the
seven
parks.
I
There's
only
seven
small
parks,
green
spaces
running
along
the
tracks,
as
well
as
the
larger
jimmy
simpson
park,
and
also
on
all
of
the
streets.
There's
two
transit
lines:
there
are
six
bridges:
the
bridges
are
100
years
old,
they
weren't
going
to
expand
the
bridges
and
then,
of
course,
found
out
that's
impossible
with
100
year
old
infrastructure,
so
they're
going
to
put
flankage
pieces
along
them.
This
is
of
every
time
you
look
at
it's
like
renovating
an
old
house.
I
Every
time
you
pull
something
back,
you
find
something
else
you
have
to
do
you
find
the
knob
and
tube
you
didn't
know
there
was
an
oven
tube.
You
find
glued
linoleum,
you
didn't
know
that
was
there
under
the
carpet.
You
find
things
every
time
you
peel
one
thing
back
and
these
motions
that
were
requested
really
are
to
give
the
information
that's
necessary
to
metrolinks
and
as
a
city
position
saying,
we
think
these
maybe
there's
no
impact,
but
I
think
I
think
there
will
be
including
to
transit.
I
The
right
model
here
for
the
ontario
line?
Everybody
wants
to
have
this
transit
line,
but
the
impact
of
this
transit
line
for
one
kilometer
above
ground
is
tremendous,
including
on
businesses.
There
are
400
businesses
at
carlaw
and
dickens
in
zoned
employment.
That
is
now
in
play
as
a
potential
site
to
stage.
I
So,
while
we're
looking
at
designs,
we're
looking
at
the
impact
of
construction,
we're
looking
at
the
impact
of
staging
in
a
built-up
neighborhood
that
in
or
that
would
require
tremendous
amount
of
construction
in
the
neighborhood
on
people's
property
on
parks,
property
taking
taking
parking
from
the
from
the
employment
zone,
impacting
those
jobs
at
that
388
car
law.
So
it
just
seems
to
me
that's
what
seems
like
a
good
idea,
because
there's
already
tracks
there
in
adding
another
two
tracks
to
what
will
be
four
and
then
eventually
they're
hoping
six
looks
great
on
paper.
I
But
I
think
our
job
is
to
make
sure
that
we
have
really
looked
at
the
impact
of
the
construction
of
being
able
to
stage
the
construction
and
everything
else.
I
don't
think
that's
happened
yet,
and
I'm
hoping
that
we'll
have
an
update
in
february,
2nd
on
the
infrastructure
impact
for
the
transportation
division.
I
believe
councilor
cole
you're
going
to
be
moving
a
couple
of
motions
on
my
behalf,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
Thanks
everybody.
B
M
And
I
think
it's
it's
just
reflecting
what
counselor
flesher
has
raised,
and
I
think
we
owe
debt
of
gratitude
to
councillor
fletcher
for
raising
these
issues,
because
I
think
she's
trying
to
protect
the
impacted
communities
as
we
go
for
10
years
here.
So
I
would
hope
you
support
this
motion
asking
for
essentially
consultation
and
certainly
respect
of
the
impact
these
projects
will
have
on
the
affected
communities.
M
B
M
As
these
major
infrastructure
projects
take
place-
and
you
know
I
think
some
of
us
have
learned-
certainly
a
very,
very
tough
lesson
from
what's
happened
on
eglinton
west
as
a
result
of
this
construction-
and
we
know
we
all
support
the
infrastructure
and
the
building
of
subways
and
lrts,
but
on
the
other
hand
there
there
is
fallout
from
this
upon
the
local
business.
I
know
earlier
we're
talking
about.
You
know
the
impact
of
closing
lanes
on
young
street
well
on
eglinton
we've
had
sidewalks
and
lanes
closed
for
10
years.
M
150
stores
closed,
so
we
need
to
put
safeguards
in
place,
just
add
another
layer
of
information
and
another
layer
of
basically
protection
of
the
impact
of
these
closures
and
these
parking
of
construction
trailers
and
construction
cranes.
So
this
is
something
that
is
really
critical
because
many
of
the
counselors
who
might
be
affected
by
this
you
know
five
years.
Hence
are
going
to
thank
us
for
at
least
putting
a
couple
of
safeguards
in
place.
M
All
these
things
happen,
and
so
there
has
to
be
a
few
of
these
safeguards
and
that's
what
these
this
combined
really
tries
to
do,
just
to
ensure
that
we
have
mechanisms
that
take
into
account
the
impact
of
this
construction
for
the
next
decade.
So
it's
it's
very,
very,
I
think,
serious
to
to
give
this
kind
of
delegated
authority
for
10
years,
and
we
have
to
have
some
added
checks
and
balances
from
the
lessons
we've
learned
on
eglinton.
B
B
B
B
C
B
E
C
H
B
B
L
I
mean
yes,
so
the
the
direction
from
the
accessibility
advisory
committee
was
to
come
with
a
motion
was
to
come
back
through
infrastructure
environment,
to
direct
us
to
develop
these
guidelines,
which
we
are
going
to
be
working
on,
and
they
asked
specifically
that
we
come
back
to
their
committee,
so
I
would
assume
either
pursuant
to
that
or
after
that
we
would.
We
would
brief
the
council
on
that
as
well
on
those
guidelines.
C
So
I've
got
a
thing
on
that.
Madam
chair,
we
this
committee,
this
standing
committee-
and
this
is
you
know,
I
appreciate
any
of
the
comments
from
the
clerk
in
terms
of
jurisdiction.
We
have
the
jurisdiction
with
regard
to
bike
lanes
and
as
a
cycling
network,
and
it
seems
to
me
awkward
in
some
ways
inappropriate
if
we're
going
to
hold
this
all
together
to
have
something
not
go
through
this
committee.
I
don't
know
if
you
agree
with
that,
but
it
seems
to
make
sense
to
me.
B
B
I
We
can't
make
legislation,
we
can't
do
things,
we
can't
make
decisions.
It
all
gets
reported
back
for
approval
at
committee,
the
same
with
the
film
board
that
you
were
on,
madam
chair,
that
we
can
do
many
things
there,
but
none
of
it
is
final.
It
all
goes
to
the
standing
committee,
in
that
case
that's
economic
development
committee
and
lastly,
for
the
accessibility
committee.
I
It
it
reports
through
your
committee
and
therefore
they
can.
They
can
initiate
things
they
can
think
things
up.
They
can't
make
them
happen
without
it
coming
back
to
committee.
So
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
motion
in
the
way
that
it's
worded,
it
appears
to
be
taking
that
purview
of
the
of
the
advisory
committee,
which
is
to
create.
I
I
Well,
deputy
sorry,
madam
chair,
that
is
the
route
and
I
think
it's
important
that
your
committee
understands
the
route
of
the
accessibility
committee.
The
same
way
as
deputy
mayor
thompson
understands
the
route
from
the
film
board.
There's
a
route,
nothing
can
be
approved
at
committee,
it's
an
advisory
committee.
Everything
comes
here
and
it
kind
of
makes
it
look
like
it
doesn't
by
the
motion
that
you're
putting
forward-
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say-
and
you
should
know.
B
C
Haven't
even
seen
the
wording
of
the
motion,
I
mean
this
is
they'll,
pull
it
out.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it
comes.
It
can
go
to
the
accessibility
committee.
I
I'm
indifferent
to
that.
I
just
think
in
terms
of
holding
this
all
together
I
mean,
I
think,
just
to
make
counselor
fletcher
happy
she's
right,
but
it
shouldn't
like
go
from
the
accessibility
committee
right
to
council,
which
I
think
she
agrees
with
sorry.
B
B
B
I
No,
I
just
I
understand,
thank
you,
ms
romoff,
I'm
sorry.
We
couldn't
get
that
done
before
noon,
that
this
has
been
a
request.
A
number
of
times,
I
think,
even
well.
We've
been
waiting,
there's
been
letters,
come
in
from
people
that
have
heard
about
this,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
would
like
to
be
able
to
take
their
non-motorized
craft
down
to
the
lake,
and
if
we
can
look
for
some
places
where
there's
storage,
that
would
be
fantastic-
and
I
understand
madam
chair
you're,
going
to
add
more
than
that
central
area.
B
D
Just
very
briefly,
I
I
love
seeing
this
item
come
forward.
It
was
2015
when
I,
when
counselor
fletcher
and
I
actually
originally
discussed,
trying
to
build
a
paddle-friendly
city.
Now
we
have
a
moniker
for
it:
paddle
t.o,
so
all
power
to
councillor
fletcher
and
councillor
mckelvey
or
chairman
mckelvey.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
have
a
motion
which
is
counselor
fletcher's,
but
just
augmenting
it
by
saying
across
the
toronto
waterfront
as
as
councillor
fletcher
said,
since
she
brought
this
forward,
there's
been
much
advocacy
across
the
city,
including
residents
in
my
community
that
have
latched
on
to
it.
We
had
lots
of
problems
last
year
trying
to
to
launch
especially,
and
we
had
a
lot
of
restrictions
because
of
close
parking,
lots
and
closures,
and
things
like
that.