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Scarborough Community Council, meeting 29, April 4, 2018
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0:10:33 - Call to order
3:12:50 - Meeting resume

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Hi good morning, everyone, I'm just gonna, call this meeting to order. It's a very.

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Packed agenda this morning, a lot of things to get through and we have timed.

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Items as well so we're going to keep everything right on time this morning, so.

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First, what I'm going to do is I'm going to do declarations of interest, seeing.

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None will somewhat a motion to approve the minutes of the last meeting, so moved.

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By councillor ainsley, all those in favor opposed and that carries, and so before I.

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Go through the agenda this morning, which is we have a number of walk line items.

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And- and we do have a really pack agenda- I'm going to ask that and buller from.

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The hospital foundation, the hospital speak first, so we have ten minutes and.

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Remember that we have timed items so, unfortunately, this is a complete ten.

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Minutes and if you do have questions we ask that you ask them very succinctly or.

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Take them offline because after 10 minutes, unfortunately I'll have to move.

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We'll have to move forward, okay so, and that would be great. Thank you so much.

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For coming and sharing news about our hospitals in scarborough so great, I will.

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Start by saying, for those who know ann buller, I am not an buller and we're not.

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Related I'm elizabeth, fuller and is the ceo for.

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The centennial college so, but thank you for having me here today. It really is a.

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Pleasure and privilege to be here since becoming the ceo of the scarborough and.

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Rouge hospital one can't help but be an avid advocate for for our community. It.

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Is such a vibrant and exciting community that not a day goes by for myself? I.

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Don't hear something wonderful about scarborough brihat new authors are.

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Musicians, people breaking records for swimming people discovering new.

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Discoveries in our neuroscience out of our? U of t scarborough and not to.

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Mention the great places to eat and I think I've packed on a few pounds that.

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Getting to know those areas, I've had the privilege of meeting some of you and I.

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Closely follow updates from many of the council members via email.

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Print and social media, and like many of those throughout our city and beyond, I.

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Truly enjoy the twitter feed of councillor kelly, although I don't have.

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Any of the t-shirts yet, but I plan to get one a recent. A recent quote that.

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Councillor kelly said in february resonated a lot with me. He tweeted life.

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Has no remote so get up and change it changing life for the better for people.

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A scarborough is a passion and commitment. I know we all share for many.

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Of you, you probably know that 80% of the health care that people receive they.

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Receive in their own community and in their own community hospitals, so it's.

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Really important for us that we make sure that we have the right resources.

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Here in the community for for the people who deserve them- and that doesn't mean.

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All of the resources that means we'll have good connections to other advanced.

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Resources, but that we make sure the right resources are here close to home.

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When the two previous hospitals merged, we made the decision to take control of.

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Our future to be in the driver's seat for reinventing what community health.

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Means and could mean in the future for scarborough. We are currently in the.

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Process of doing just that at the scarborough andrews hospital with the.

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Opportunities that we have may a made to a made in scarborough health network, one.

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That inclusively serves our over 650,000 residents. We know at the hospitals that.

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We can lead in the province for community health care that we can lead.

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In the country for community health care and that we really can put a foot.

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Footprint internationally as well, we've been working to capture the thoughts and.

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Ideas of our many stakeholders to help build our hospitals. First strategic plan.

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Which we will roll out in june and to create our new look and name and plan.

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For our future facilities, your input into this important planning for our.

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Hospital will help us get the right processes in place, and my staff will be.

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Reaching out to many of you in the near future, so we can get your inputs on to.

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What you see as the views for what scarborough's healthcare system should.

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Look like in the future my goal throughout the entire process.

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Has been to really listen and understand and then.

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To develop solutions together with our partners, we want to understand what are.

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The barriers to accessing healthcare, not just in our hospital but in our.

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Community, how can we help you at our residents the right care for their.

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Unique needs and how do we make the transition easier for our patients once.

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They leave our network and go back to their own. We need to understand the.

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Unique journey of each patient that goes through our system and truly grasp how.

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To deliver the best highest quality care for our community, it means that we, our.

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Own staff and our physicians need to not only be compassionate but also.

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Understand the richness of the diverse needs of our community, which they.

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Themselves represent: this is what putting patients first means. It's not a.

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Catchphrase, it has to be the purpose in which we practice. It has to be.

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Meaningful to our patients, families and communities, and it's the lens through.

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Which we are looking at to plan the future health care for scarborough, while.

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We have a lot of work ahead of us there's an equally important role for.

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Our government partners to play at all levels today, most recently, we have the.

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Privilege of having premier wynne announced the investment in the.

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Much-Needed redevelopment and expansion of our emergency department at the.

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Centenary site and, of course, meritorious well as counselors kelly and lee, and our.

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Scarborough caucus have been instrumental in helping the bridal town.

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Neighborhood center move forward, which will offer much-needed services to the.

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Community and in particular, to our patients who require dialysis services.

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We had our recent budget announcement, which was very encouraging to continue.

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To invest in our healthcare system, although it's never enough, we will.

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Continue to lobby strongly for for the great needs of our community. In addition,.

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To our future planning we're also growing our in other ways. Later this.

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Month, we'll be welcoming our very first chief of staff for the new scarborough.

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And rouge hospital, dr. dix outman he's a very seasoned senior physician who comes.

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With a wealth of experience, formerly from kingston general, most recently,.

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Quinte health and he actually worked with dr. dawn lowe a number of years.

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Back during the sars crisis, it's very instrumental in helping with that. So we're pleased to be bringing him on.

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We're also very proud of the community involvement in the scarborough and rouge.

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Hospital we've just started our new community advisory council with 12 community members, its renewed from from the two.

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Existing ones- and I want to acknowledge councillor cara gianna's for his past.

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Working in the community advisory councils and we're also very fortunate.

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Unique in the province to have over 60 people in our community, as well as.

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Patient and family advisors and they provide great insights and valued.

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Experiences into decision-making for our hospitals. Additionally, we have over.

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1,500 volunteers from our community, which just says a remarkable amount for.

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How vested people are, as you know, more than 60 years for more than 60 years.

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Since the township of scarborough partnered, with the sisters of missa cordia to build the general site, we've worked together with local.

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Representatives to build a strong and healthy scarborough scarborough is a.

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Community, that's defined by resiliency, hard work and pride and is undergoing an.

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Incredible renaissance, that we want to be part of it's a community defined by.

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Its unique demographics and vibrancy people come here from all over the world.

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To build a life raise their families, grow their businesses and contribute to.

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The community and I know that from firsthand experience as my family.

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Immigrated here from scotland over 50 years ago,.

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And landed in scarborough and grew our families from here and continued to live.

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In the community I believe, now more than ever, the voice of scarborough is being.

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Heard and we have to continue to beat that drum our unique makeup social.

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Determinants of health, ethnic diversity and predicted growth.

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Patterns offer us tremendous privilege to develop a highly integrated, highly.

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Coordinated an innovative response to scarborough's healthcare needs and build.

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A healthy scarborough that will be the envy of the province by collaborating.

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With you and our many partners in the community, I know we can make impactful.

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Solutions put them in place and design a system that will improve the health of.

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Everyone what it equals is the chance for us to throw out the remote and.

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Change the channel together to create a very best health care.

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Experience in scarborough, thank you for your time. I'm happy to take any.

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Questions great elizabeth, thank you so much and.

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Sorry, for the name, the name I'd overall, her, okay thanks so much. I just have a.

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Really quick question: if you could just summarize really quickly in 30 seconds.

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About we're the municipal level, so not the provincial level, which has much more.

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Impact on the healthcare system and the hospitals in terms of the municipal.

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Level, what is it that? What is it that your group is looking for from the.

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Municipal councillors and from the city of toronto, yeah from the municipal.

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Councillors the continued support, in particular, as we develop community hubs.

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And bring together all of the population health needs, so it isn't. Health isn't.

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About health standing alone, we know we need everyone involved in those social.

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Determinants of health at the municipal level, for areas like the hub and.

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Supporting those visions at education level, all of the social services level.

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So we're really trying to bring everyone together to connect those dots and not.

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See be seen as independent silos going forward, we can't do it. How would we.

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Specifically, do that. Well, if the most specific thing right now is helping to.

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Support the community hub that would demonstrate the strength of coming.

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Together, as a municipal community and joining the province together with the.

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Healthcare system: okay, great! Thank you. Any other questions.

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Yeah councillor kelly, the the municipalities that circle toronto are.

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At least in some of them, apparently, when developers make their presentation to.

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Develop and intensify certain properties within those municipalities. The.

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Municipality is able to negotiate contributions to the hospitals in the.

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Area is that is that correct? That's my understanding.

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Yep and that's not something that we do here.

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As a rule in toronto or in scarborough, but it could be something that we that.

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We should be aware of as a municipal government would you agree with that? Yes,.

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Thanks thanks for mentioning that, and we have been working it's beginning, that.

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Work in particular through our hospital foundation, to see how we can identify.

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Some access to those resources and make sure that they're invested in our.

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Community 1% of the value of properties goes to public art as a bylaw and maybe.

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There should be something that suggests that another 1% goes to hospitals would.

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That be too far-fetched in your eyes. It wouldn't be too far-fetched, and I would.

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Probably broaden it to say our health system so that it's not seen as just.

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Going to the hospital, but in fact the hospital helping to support care out.

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Into the community again like the idea of the community hub where all services.

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Don't have to be right in our hospital building, but that we provide and operate.

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And support services within the community as well, certainly section 37.

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Could be directed in that area towards that initiative? That's my understanding.

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And and that support would be greatly welcomed, great okay, thank you. Sorry.

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Elizabeth and we'll have to conclude with that has any questions. Then they.

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Can reach out, unfortunately, it's just very, very packed agenda this morning and.

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Timed items, so we really appreciate the opportunity. Thank you. Thank you.

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Okay, so this morning, I'll just go through the items. There's again a number.

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Of of add-on items that we'll be adding at the end, okay, so a move to receive the.

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Presentation, counselor to bear maker, all those in favor approved and that carries.

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And so moving on to sc 29.1, which was the scarborough and rouge hospital.

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That's complete sc 29.2. That's a request for fence exemption. 119 amberjack.

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Boulevard and that has deputations sc twenty twenty nine point: three counselor.

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Hurt yes, thank you chair, we've taken a look.

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This came before scarborough community council I'll speak very briefly in in.

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November and at that time I recommend it that we do not approve it, because the.

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Fence was higher than the standard in the local community. Since then, they've.

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Come back and lowered the fence height to 1.8 metres we've taken a look at the.

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Fence heights out in the community there are four similar fence heights in in.

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Other places of worship at 1.8 metres in ward 37 were at 41 and award 44 and in.

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Fact, scarborough community council adopted 1.8 metres for a site in 2014, so.

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Given that there's precedent in the scarborough community for this height.

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I'm recommending an exemption in this case. Thank you. Okay, so councillor heart.

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Is moving okay and are there any speakers on this item? No, are you adding.

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Your name to the agenda or yeah: we don't even we can't. So if you want to.

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Yeah I've moved the recommendation, which is what I believe you would. You would.

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Wish that yes, okay yeah, so seeing nobody else wants to speak on the item, then.

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Moving counsel hearts moving the exemption, all those in favor opposed in.

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That carries thank you, yep yep and so we'll have a recorded vote. All those in.

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Favor councillor kelly councillor hurt councillor shan councillor care janice.

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Councillor lee counts, councillor, holland, councillor, ainsley, councillor, crawford.

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And councillor deburr maker, so it's unanimous thank you and sc. 29.4 is also.

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A timed item and its properties located east of midland avenue, west of brimley.

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Road south of stubbs, wood square and north of heather road city, initiated.

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Zoning bylaw amendment final report and there's a speaker on this one as well.

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And sc 29.5, which is 67 kirk dean, drive part lock, control exemption final report.

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Counselor hurt move the staff recommendations, stock recommendations.

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All those in favor pose and that carries sc 29.6 1376 to 1386 kingston road.

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Zoning amendment application preliminary report- that's a crawford. I think I have.

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A motion to expand the notification area on this against just to expand the.

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Notification, great okay, so this is a notice to expand the notification area.

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All those in favor opposed and that carries and item as amended in favor.

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Opposed and that carries an sc 29.7 2130 morningside avenue zoning amendment.

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Application preliminary report councillor shan, I'm sure I also have a.

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Motion to expand the notification area- okay- and this is to expand the.

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Notification area, all those in favor opposed and that carries an item as.

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Amended opposed and that carries and sc.

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29.8 intention to designate under part four section: 29 of the ontario heritage.

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Sorry, the rest of that it's act, 33:15 midland avenue, council early.

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Council early, this is on this- is at midland avenue. It's twenty nine point.

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Eight, almost das publication. Okay, we do sorry about that. We do. We have a speaker.

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On that it does become and sc 29.9 scarborough center public art master.

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Plan consultants report councillors, thompson and debayer maker. Thank you.

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Madam chair I'll just move the staff recommendations and thank staff for.

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Polishing up, hopefully in the future, our scarborough civic center area, with a.

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Public art master plan- it's great and also councillor thompson- supports this.

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As well and so moving its staff recommendation.

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All those in favor okay, then you want to hold that okay, so.

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Councillor shanz going to hold that and the next item, which is sc 29 point.

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10 we have a deputy on that as well: we've a few deputies and that's the.

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Application to remove a private tree, 345, finch dean square and councillor stan's.

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Word and sc 29 point 11, always stop control review cathedral, bluffs drive.

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And earl road count, sir crawford. Thank you.

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Just I want to have a motion actually for this sorry, so it's not to put it in.

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The stoplight but we're gonna move the speed limit from 40 down to 30, okay, so.

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Instead of the alway compulsory stop control, which was not authorized.

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Councillor crawford is moving to reduce the speed limit from 40 to 30 kilometers.

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In front of a school yeah, all those in favor opposed and knight that carries.

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And item as amended all those in favor opposed and that carries okay and sc 29.

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Point 12: this is request for an all-way compulsory, stop controls on fall, north.

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Avenue and corvette avenue- and this is in my word here- and this intersection.

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Has been studied a number of times, although it doesn't meet the warrant.

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We've had a number of public meetings with teachers and parents. This is also.

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At a school corvette, public school and walter perry, public school, and so I'm.

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Asking that the installation of the always stop controls be placed at these.

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Yeah, all those in favor opposed and that carries.

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And sc 29 point 14 parking for restricted periods, meadow avenue.

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Councillor crawford just move staff recommendation: okay,.

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Moving staff recommendations, all those in favor opposed this is on 14 13 did I.

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Miss it: okay, sorry, I'm moving staff recommendations as well right, okay, so.

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This is for 29 13 speed, limit review, warden avenue between kingston 2 and 4th.

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Avenue councillor crawford and that is moving staff recommendations. All those.

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In favor opposed and that carries and.

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For sc I'll, just repeat this sc 29 point: 14 parking for restricted periods, meadow.

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Avenue and councillor crawford's movie and stocked recommendation on that as well. All those in favor approves and that carries and sc 29:15 speed limit.

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Review kingston road between victoria park and midland avenue, councillor.

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Crawford again, I'm gonna move staff recommendations, moving staff.

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Recommendations all those in favor opposed in that carries, and the next.

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Item we also have deputations on which is sc 29 point 16.

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This is councillor cara, janice's word request for report regarding speed, humps.

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Traffic control measures near kennedy, public school and david lewis, public.

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School live deputy and send those and a c20 9.17 traffic control signals.

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Review at 4, 3, 2, 5, mccowan road counts, early, wolf, stuff, illumination.

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Okay, we're moving staff recommendation, all those in favor opposed and that.

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Carries a see twenty nine point: eighteen traffic control signal, review, middle.

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Field road at richmond park, boulevard, councillor, leave I'll move, staffs.

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Recommendation: okay, moving staff recommendations, all those.

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In favor opposed and that carries and sc 29.99 mac, frost way, counselors and staff.

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Recommendation: okay, moving staff recommendations, all those.

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In favor opposed and that carries and sc.

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29 point 20 traffic controls, signals, review, steeles avenue, east and east.

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Ville drive counselor, shannon. If there's anyone from ttc here, I would.

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Like to hold that, we could have some questions. Okay, so we're going to hold.

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That counselor shan and sc 29.2 one pedestrian crossover, review, galloway.

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Road, a coordination drive councillor ainsley. Thank you, madam chair. I do have.

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I'd like to make an amendment so that it now reads scarborough community council.

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Authorized the installation of a pedestrian cross over on galloway road, a.

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Carnation drive, okay,.

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So just removing the word: not scarborough community council authorized.

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The installation, a pedestrian crossover and galloway road, a coronation drive all.

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Those in favor opposed and that carries and item as amended all those in favor.

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Opposed and that carries and sc 29.2 two.

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Heavy vehicles, prohibition, bluebird place cancer, heart move staff.

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Recommendations staff recommendations, all those in favor, opposed in that.

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Carries sc twenty nine point: two three requests for report school zone review.

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Counselor heart s, I'm seeking community council support on these studies. I've.

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Got eight schools affected in these areas a community center tryna police.

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Has come to me with these with this less school principals have called me in.

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Residence we've completed one survey, we're almost complete a second one. The.

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Other two will be complete in the next couple of weeks. So I'd really like your.

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Concurrence to move forward got a real issue with schools, and my word is, as I'm.

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Sure all of you do thank you, okay and so moving staff recommendation, or this is a.

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Request so, okay yep, so all those in favor opposed and that carries.

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And sc 29.2 for enactment of events for liquor, licensing purposes, councillor.

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Thompson and hurt cancer hurt. Yes, I'd like to move the report from the city.

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Clerk moving the report from the city clerk all those in favor opposed and.

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That carries and on sc 29.5 we do have a.

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Speaker, which is the request for report scarborough civic center and councillor.

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Dubrow makers word: sc 29.2, six request to install a signalized pedestrian.

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Crossover pxo and deerwood on dirham wood at poplar, road jr. public school in.

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Deer him wood daycare, councillor ansley I'll, move the request. So this is to add.

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New business, all those in favor opposed, and that carries yes, so so we'll do it.

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And not ordered there's a number of add-ons, so we can do both at the same.

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Time, I'd be great: okay, so councillor ainsley I'll move the.

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Motion, okay, all those in favor opposed and that carries.

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Okay, okay and then the next one again motion required to add new business. Its.

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Sc 29 point two: seven request to install a pedestrian crosswalk at belle chase.

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Street and ben shire drive councillor deburr maker.

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That's right, so it added so just to add new business, all those in favor opposed and that carries. My motion, madam chair, is to ask for a staff report.

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On this issue, to come back to this community council, that's right and do we.

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Have a date on when that would return to us, because there's no july.

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There's no july sec, there is we do july 4th. That's why? Okay, it follow the early.

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Yep this is july perfect, so all those in favor opposed and that carries a I'm.

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Sure the next to the next is also mine. It's the twenty nine point. Twenty eight.

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Request to install a traffic light at birth at bir, morton drive and dolly bart.

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Dolly varden boulevard, it's just asking that to be added on as a new item of.

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Business, so I can ask for a staff report: okay,.

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So first we'll do the motion to add to new business. All those in favor opposed.

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And that carries and for the staff report also in this one's for june, I.

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Believe so yeah I'm reading it so it this is for june, all those in favor.

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Opposed and that carries okay and councillor differ maker, and this is.

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Another item sc 29 point 29 request to install an all-way control at barrymore.

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Road at cal, kilbride road and this is to add new business. All those in favor.

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Opposed and that carries and councillor to bear maker, this is for june as well.

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For a staff report to come back here, yeah.

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In june 20 and june june, community council, all those in favor opposed and.

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That carries housekeeping lots of a host, keeping it 38 reports. We dusted them off.

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Right, this is sc 29 point 30 request to install a pedestrian crosswalk at green.

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Green cedar circuit and daphne road and this is to add new business, all those in.

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Favor opposed, and that carries- and this is for july, councillor dimmer maker.

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Speaker, I just moved it at that request for staff report on this to come back to.

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The july scarpered community council meeting and if I could just say briefly.

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This is the intersection where a senior who was living in the area. It was.

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Tragically, hit by the car at 7:00 p.m. at night and died in the arms of a 19.

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Year old security guard who came to his aid, so I look forward to seeing the.

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Report in july and hoping we can improve safety at this intersection. Great thank.

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You so much and all those in favor opposed and that carries and okay.

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Sc 29.3 one which is requests for always stop at bernardin street at door. Road.

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And councillor debris maker to add new business, all those in favor opposed and.

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That carries, and this one is the staff report back in june. Yes, so moved yeah.

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And all those in favor opposed, and that carries one and okay. So this one is for.

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The reopening of scarborough community councils item sc 2518, headed overnight.

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Parking regulation, part pilot review for silver springs boulevard area, and this.

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Is councillor cara janice and this is a reopening that would require two-thirds.

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Support so right, but this way this is the the first. The vote first is.

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Added as new business, all those in favor opposed and that carries, and it would.

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Require two-thirds to reopen all those in favor opposed in that character.

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Okay, yes, councillors, chair was approached by staff. There was a.

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Situation where the wrong date was placed on, they asked me to amend it.

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Broaden their member and they're moving, okay and so councillor kerry. Janice has.

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The motion there, the reopen delegated sc 25 18, headed overnight parking.

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Regulation pilot review silver springs boulevard area adopted on october 17, 20.

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17Th and the amended recommendation went to delete the words finch avenue west.

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And replace them with the words finch avenue east, so that the recommendation reads as follows: we can read that okay and all those in favor yeah as amended. I.

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Know there's an item as amended approved and that carries thing I know there's so.

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Many so many today and okay that takes us to that agenda and then councillor.

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Duper maker only has seven more to go. You know wait, but I'll hardly ever do.

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This, madam chair, but that's okay, so the first item is asking well, we referred.

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This from the toronto council meeting to this meeting, so it's the installation of.

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Traffic control signals at the intersection of eglinton avenue east in.

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Barbados boulevard that was referred to council, so I think we have to introduce.

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It as an added item here- yes, so this one, um so I'm just trying to get that item.

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Right in front of me, I've been instructed by the clerk that I.

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Should move the overnight parking issue first, so I'll just follow their advice.

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So the first added item, so the sc 29 point 33, which is overnight parking.

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Issues on stonehenge cressida and mount land drive, and this one councillor dram.

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Bear maker you are asking for a staff report back for july as well, and so this.

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Will be added as new business, all those in favor opposed and that carries and.

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Then, for the report back on july 2018, all those in favor opposed and that.

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Carries and then for twenty nine twenty nine point: three four: this is regarding.

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The installation, installation of traffic control signals at the intersection of.

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Eglinton avenue east I'm barbados, boulevard and this item was.

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Actually discussed in march, this is on the border between mine, ward, 35 and.

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Councillor to be makers, ward, 38, and so in order for this one we have to add it.

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As new business and then the vote will require two-thirds support so to add it.

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As new business, all those in favor opposed and that carries, and then I mean.

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The the report we have to reopen the issue first, so I'll move to reopen.

H

The issue and then I'll explain it that's right. So in order to reopen the.

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Issue it requires 2/3 support, all those in favor opposed and that carries and.

H

Thank you, madam chair, and I think the clerk's can put the motion up on the screen that the scarborough community council authorized. The installation of.

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Traffic control signals at the intersection of eglinton avenue, east and.

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Barbados boulevard, madam chair, as you know, you and I have been working on this.

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Issue for a number of years now, with the local businesses and with the new french.

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Catholic high school on the north side of the street, as well as all the residents on I'll call it my side. The north side of the.

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Street and all the businesses on the south side on yours, we had approved stoplight I'll, say stuff called it mid-block, but.

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Talking to local business owners and the and the parents and the principal of the.

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French catholic high school they've all agreed that it's actually better to put.

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The light at eglinton barbados, because that's where the bus stops are and that's where the workers go from the north side across seven lanes of traffic.

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To the south side and where the students get off the bus on the south side and.

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One across seven lanes of traffic to the north side, so I think both you, if I can.

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Speak on your behalf, both you and I are recommending to our colleagues that we.

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Just changed that previous location of the stoplights a little bit to the east.

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To barbados and eglinton avenue exactly, thank you very much for clarifying that.

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And okay, questions and think it's your just a quick question: have the have you.

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Looked at the ttc bus stops to be realigned at the barbados and eglinton.

J

Is there any other stops between barbados and is it brimley or mcallen? I.

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Believe if you realigned the ttc bus stops yes, and one of the reasons why.

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We're moving this motion is we had previously. We have for a number of years.

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Looked at all sorts of different options trying to land on the best option and at.

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One point: if we move the lights further west, we would eliminate the bus stops.

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There, which would mean the students would have to walk a couple hundred metres further and high school, just doesn't think that's going to happen. All.

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The workers in the industrial complex will have to walk a couple hundred metres further, so we actually looked at for the convenience of human beings that.

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The stoplight is in the right location at barbados staff. Mr. onion, for example,.

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Reminded me that back in 2004, just after I had been elected, the subdivision built.

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On the north has a driveway going out at barbados boulevard so that the.

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Subdivision was designed to put a light at barbados, so we helped, but it's the.

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Best through youtube, my colleague, but is there any current bus, stops.

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Between barbados and mccowan, yes, are you gonna, realign them or you're gonna leave.

H

They're very far away know what I'm asking is if people are getting off mid.

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Block on the south side of the normals they're not now they're get actually.

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Currently, they're getting off at barbados, so we're lining up the stoplight, with the driveways, with barbados and with the.

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Bus stops, the bus stops between my mccowan and barbados will be eliminated.

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It don't stop. There are a few, I'm gonna say a few hundred meters to the west. So.

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They would still need to stay there, because, if you were out was to use one.

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Of those other bus stops, it is a very long walk from those old bus stops to.

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The right I mean the only my only concern is if somebody were to get off.

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Mid block, if they walk across, you might get a fatal accident. Yes, this this.

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Intersection is where we're all say: the vast majority of people do get off the.

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Bus because the students are getting off the bus to go to school right at that.

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That location and all the workers in the industrial area to the south, they all.

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Get off the bus to go to the industrial area to the south, so we've looked at all.

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The various permutations and combinations and both councillor hollen.

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To myself in the high school and the local businesses, businesses have all.

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Landed on the same location, which is one that staff have said, that was what it.

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Was originally designed for back in 2004, okay, great, thank you.

B

And so here's the motion here and all those in favor opposed and that carries.

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Thank you and item is amended all those in favor and just the last item here.

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Maker, this is for item number sc 29 point three: five, stopping illegal large.

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Trucks from infiltrating the green brake community, and also this is for a report.

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Back in may so, if we're next month, yep so I'll move that have you added on to.

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The agenda: okay: to be added on the agenda, all those in favor opposed and.

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That carries and then for the report back in may all those in favor opposed.

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And that carries great. So that concludes the agenda and we'll come back around to.

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Sc 29.2, which is a timed item, and its request for fence exemption for 119.

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Amberjack boulevard fence in front yard, and so first we have two speakers. We.

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Have kitt man quang who's, the property owner? No? Okay, then we have to boil not.

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Here, councillor to bare maker, thank you, madam chair. We we deferred this from.

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Item from a couple of months ago, when both then both neighbors came to us and.

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And had different opinions on the seedier hedge I've had an opportunity to.

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Go out and and visit with both both neighbors and, let me say, they're there.

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I'm going to move the approval of the exemption when I went out to the site.

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Where are the hedges located? Does not block anybody's sight line in.

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Terms of driving or if you're, walking along the sidewalk or if your child is.

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Riding a bicycle on a sidewalk there's there's absolutely, in my opinion, no.

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Sight line issues the hedges actually starts on the property line and goes on.

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The owners property, so in theory they could build a.

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Fence a wooden fence and then allow the cedars to grow as tall as they wanted.

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So, although the neighbors disagree, one neighbor wants the hedges to come down.

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The other neighbor says: they've been there for 20 years and they're well-maintained. I had a look and I'm comfortable.

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Granting the application to keep the existing well-maintained hedge, where.

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It's been for the last couple of decades great mm. Thank you.

B

And so counselor uber makers move this motion and are and are there any.

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Questions of the mover nope, seeing none and so all of those in.

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Favor of the motion approved and that carries and then item as amended.

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Approved and that carries so that's approved, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Okay,.

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And the next one up is to sc 29.4, and we have mr. zito here on behalf of the.

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Developer so this is properties located east of midland avenue and west of burma.

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Road south of stubbs, woods, square and north of heather road city initiated.

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Zoning bylaw amendment final report.

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And so this is in councillor, lee's word uh-huh and I'll also ask if there are.

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Any other people wishing to depute on this item, please let the clerk know and.

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Mr. zito, how are you yeah? Thank you, yeah. Thank you, madam chair. I have some.

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Written submission for the concerts reveal, and they should be ditch of it to.

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You right now, while waiting for you to receive dias written submissions. Yes,.

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The written submissions are in two parts. One is the report from our a plan.

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Consultant that retained walker- not just lisa, can associate to make some comments.

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On the proposed amendment and the other one is actually my proposal for the a.

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Severance for 58 grain with a drive well good morning, dear madam chair and.

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Members, council, my name, is alfred seto and I'm here to represent the owners of.

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58 kalenna for drive and 66 jennifer drive.

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Both owners have purchased the properties in the spring of 2017, with.

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The intention of subdividing the lots into two to three lots, which will be.

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Possible under the current zoning bylaw antaria citywide bylaw 569 in 2013 and.

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Also, the agent cott community bylaw one zero zero seven six, these two bylaws.

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Does not allow any sufferance of the lots provider of costea, we have to argue.

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On a technical merits or the severance, I guess I'm the culprit before you today.

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If I'd use that word for this amendment, that would actually disallow any.

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Sufferance of any lot within the affected area in your diagram, 1d comment.

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Form our planning consultant is this: is that during the time when the city of.

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Ibailo 569 2013 adopted in may of 2016 and went through numerous amendments.

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Appeals and deliberations from various parties and planning staff in.

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Consultants and were approved paris omb in september 2016.

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I would assume that all the sewing standards with your planning staff would.

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Have wanted to include in this sleeve I by law, would have been there to protect.

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And safeguard what you call and I grade this very stable neighborhood in the.

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Affected area and within disturb city waipahu, I let the point out to you that.

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They have maintained all the elat area, the lot frontage maximum house area lock.

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Coverage maximum height and all the setbacks that were the same as the. If I.

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Brought the old agent automated by law, but in addition, they also added that the.

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New houses would not be more than two sorry in height, and also they edited that maximum building lanes should be 17 meters and a.

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Building death of 19 meters alice's, just success to you. Mr. chair and madam chair.

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That ds zoning bylaw standards would actually provide all the safeguard and.

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Assuming regulations to ensure that all the new houses and new lots that will be.

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Built in this area would be consistent and be similar to the physical.

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Characters of city of the existing, a neighborhood, if I'd like to submit to.

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You that if we were to subdivide, subdivide a lot of hundred feet wide and.

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200 feet deep into two to three lots and the new lots and new houses would comply.

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To all the current zoning standards, without any variance, I would like to.

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Submit to you that the new lots and new houses with lenny and be similar to all.

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The existing physical character of the houses that you have now in this.

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Neighborhood and you can see in your own diagram in diagram one that a lot of the.

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Lots are actually not very big and they are like 50 feet, frontage and the houses.

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Are within the two to five thousand square feet, total area.

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I would like to suggest to you that it would have divided the lord into to the.

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Few lots they knew lots of new houses would actually make it better use of the.

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Existing sewer capacity, he would have no negative impact on the traffic flow and.

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I would suggest to you that our proposed variance is a very modest.

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Intensification of the lots which could be and may be subdivided so in.

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Conclusion, I a suggest you that a proposed variance will not destabilize.

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The existing stable neighborhood, if council, would, in your wisdom, approved.

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This amendment, we would respectfully request that the properties at 58.

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Grandmother drive and 66 cranford drive be exempted from this amendment. Thank.

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You thank you mr. zero, and so I have questions councillor dewberry maker.

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Thank you ma'am joe, oh, so counselor lee's gonna go first.

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Question yeah counselor: do your bear maker and then cancel early. Sorry thank.

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You three, madam chair, and thank you very much for coming in today. I just want to.

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Clarify because I'm not quite sure that I understand mm-hmm what you're asking.

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Us to do you're suggesting do you want an amendment to the staff report before.

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Us well, my submission here is for council.

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To consider to refuse this amendment before you today, so that so that's.

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Severance of the any lots in this affected area could go forward and be.

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Approved with based on the potential merits of any submission for our sevens.

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Application, so your request to us today is to actually refuse the staffer. Yes,.

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And and if you choose to pass this amendment that we would request that the.

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Property is at 58 kinds of joy and sixty-six minute drive be exempted from.

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The amendment to be accepted from from this amendment, okay and and that would.

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Have the effect of allowing I'll call it? The two different properties? Yes, are.

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They each a hundred-foot frontages. Now, yes, they're hundreds each by 200 feet.

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Well, the property, not you, but the property owners would like to sever them.

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Into three lots: each well in 58, convey will be three lots in 66 will be two.

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Lots each with a 50-foot frontage and 200 feet in depth; okay, so you want to take at 50, 150 foot.

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Lot yes and turn it into three 50-foot lots. Yes, the one in 58. I think we can do.

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The three lots which you see in my submission to you: okay and then number.

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66 and my apologies- I just got it now, so I'm sort of filed yeah. I understand it.

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Learning, thanks to your your submission, the one at 66, glen watford is a hundred.

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Foot lot today, yes, by two hundred feet and and the.

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Owners would like to subdivide that into two fifty foot laws. Yes, we have had two.

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Submitted application to the sony revealed in july of 2016.

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And this is a prerequisite before we go to him to adjustment once received in.

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Sony notice, we would be putting forward a application to come adjustment. Can you.

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Put an application in today: yes, I would, and its staff tell you that they would.

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Recommend against it. Well, I, if I may say so to mr. hollinger.

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And you actually call me to say that I couldn't hear mr. collins remy. Oh, oh yes,.

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Call me about about six weeks ago to say that they would object to my to my.

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Severance application in 58 can waffle choice because of the fact that in his.

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Opinion that our proposed new lots and new houses would not comply to the.

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Official plan section four point: one point: five, which the cross described: how.

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A stable with neighborhood should should have in terms of physical.

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Characteristics, yes, I'm three, madam sure, have you sent.

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This out to any of the neighbors this this idea or a request to sever the lots.

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Well, because the application has no date yet so there's no notice. That would be.

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Sent out to the neighbors, but we have not talked to any neighbors so far, would.

H

You agree with me because it's so as a professional, planner, you're suggesting.

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And I think I heard you say that subdividing these lots other lots.

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Because the other lots will go to, yes, is a more efficient use of the sewage.

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Capacity and the existing infrastructure- oh definitely.

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I appear that I seem to understand and I stand to be corrected- that some of these.

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Last lots in this area are there because they're large, because they have septic.

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Tanks in today, their services and all the streets, and it would be efficient.

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For them to connect to this to the existing storm and as century sewers.

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Without any negative impact, I also be much better use of an efficiency to use.

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Delenn, could you three, madam chair, you might understand, though, as somebody.

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Who's been in the planning field for many many years, yes, that if I had.

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Invested my entire life savings. Yes to buy a house in an estate subdivision.

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Like this, yes, a very beautiful estate subdivision, yes, that I would be very.

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Upset you, you were subdividing your lot into three.

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50-Foot lots right beside me. Yes, I understand the character of the.

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Neighborhood completely on that point counselor, I beg to disagree because I.

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Believe that if you ever take it, in fact, if you take a look at the first page up.

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Higher on that of my my my drawings, you see that in 58 to 2004 drives the house.

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Is actually quite packets, it fronts on to the clinical trial. But if you to put.

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Two houses in there, the urban massing in a pill form are very similar to all the.

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Other houses within this affected area. Yes, I bet I do a grape, you look. I I do.

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Appreciate and understand that some neighbors can say I have a big house. Why.

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Would you want to come along and subdivide it to 50-foot lots right next.

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To me I mean I can understand. Okay, thank you, okay, thank you and can surly thank.

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You thank you very much for coming in mrs. zero. You understand that when we.

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Implemented the official plan yeah, I know- got approved in 2013. Yes, many of.

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The old scarborough restrictions were put back into the restrictions. Yes in.

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Different areas, yes, is that right, that's correct, yes, and but in this.

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Particular is for this area. There was an oversight and restrictions.

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On one, if you read report, okay on one dwelling per property, yes, unfortunately,.

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Was missed and was not put back, so it's just the correction of that to ensure.

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That those or bylaws and forcible by putting it back in official plan, you.

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Don't you think that it's the right thing to do constantly? I actually would.

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Respectfully, disagree with that, I think that when you're planning staff have.

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Revealed all the zoning standards that are required to safeguard a stable.

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Neighborhood, they believe very carefully study examined and put forward all the.

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Zoning restrictions that would they like to impose on.

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Which would show that? What I'm saying to you is that they maintain all the.

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Existing standards you're from data base, 9 meters, which is very big, but for any.

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Area and this is maintained, the maximum floor area is 3,200 square feet, which is.

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Not a big houses so and the coverage that of yours 50%. So I would like to.

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Suggest you to plan your own planning staff, examined us and added and include.

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Any positions that they believe are appropriate for this area. Now what I.

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Don't agree view is that you say that one of the item of one lot privilege of.

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The plan is forgotten or or somehow milt. I would suggest you exactly forward.

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Planning for your own training staff, not to include that so that some cerfancy go.

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Forward based on the technical merits of the application at that time, ok, I would.

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Suggest you that if I did not want to quote about talk about, I'm not a real.

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Professional planner, I'm an architect that the potential policies encourage.

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Wise and efficient use of land- and I would say that some of these piglets.

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Could actually be subdivided provided that they would comply? It be consistent.

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With existing security neighborhood, thank you thank you and any others to.

B

Question and so we have one other deputed, that we have to hear from first.

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And so thank you mr. zito, I believe does somebody want to speak here. Yep grace.

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Morrison to speak yep, so thank you mr. zito and then mr. morrison, you can go to.

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The microphone and you can speak for five minutes.

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I'd have to found need five minutes, but five minutes will be fine. I put on my.

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Teachers voice hello. My name is grace morrison. I have been a resident of glen.

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Watford drive for a considerable number of us going on 40, probably I am totally for what has been.

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Recommended here, the purpose of the amendment is to make a technical.

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Amendment to the zoning law to correct and clarify the zoning standards. I am.

K

Reading now, from the paper sent around, the proposed amendment would restore the.

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Minimum required a lot frontage, a minimum required lot area and the.

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Residential attached detached zone etc. Yes, I refer to chapter for land use.

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Designations four and number five on that.

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It says no changes will be made through rezoning, minor variants, consent or other.

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Public action that are out of keeping with the physical character of the.

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Neighborhood and also, we must consider that it is absolutely necessary to have.

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Things that are going to exist in the neighborhood which have existed before.

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And which are quite normal, should I say and go along with the neighborhood as it.

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Is I therefore am totally against and the thing which is going to do anything.

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Different from that- and I would like to propose that, yes, we do come back to what.

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We had and may 9th which existed prior to may 9th 2013, and that is all I have.

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To say I used to be a teacher in the area and I have lived there for many.

K

Many years we have a magnificent area, so let's try and keep it that way. Thank you.

K

So much thank you. Any questions councillor some morrison.

B

Just a quick question from councillor de barre maker all right. Thank you, madam.

H

Chair, thank you very much for coming in today, hi. So I just to clarify for me. So are you in favor of people subdividing the.

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Lots or not subdividing the lots. I am not in favor of.

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Subdividing lots, so you want the lots. Basically, they stay the way they are.

K

They the same if they are huge- and I have quite a big lot myself- that 50.

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Glenmont for drive, if which is in this particular area, I believe that we have.

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Designated there, if you look at your little map, yes, I believe that if we.

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Start perhaps making these places and zoning them down, then we are going to.

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Have a neighborhood which is completely different, so yeah, that's all! I have to.

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Say thanks, I'm sure I didn't catch at the beginning. How long have you lived at.

H

That address rough as long as I lived at that address- oh my goodness, from.

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Montreal in 77 from 77, so I guess that's quite a while. I also am a teacher and I.

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Was chair of french immersion at the local schools, etc, etc, and my daughter's.

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Have grown up there, I'm sure about that even way back in the 70s. Yes, it was way.

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Back that was still a significant investment for you and your family to me.

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It's it certainly was. We came from montreal. We went from montreal to here.

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My husband was phd and auntie worked with cia, so we moved from montreal to.

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Here to montreal to here till I was a bit fed up and I moved schools. Of course.

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And taught it is an excellent area and a beautiful area, and it should be kept.

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That way and through manager, you know scarborough has a lot of smaller lots.

H

54Th I dunno 30, but you chose to buy into that subdivision because you wanted.

H

That feel of I'll call it an estate subdivision. I don't know if they use.

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Those words anymore, but it is a it- is a beautiful subdivision, a magnificent.

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Subdivision and actually we had lived three houses just a little south before.

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We moved to montreal and had to move right back and chose to go to exactly.

K

The same spot for schools, universities and and for the the lot and the people.

H

Okay, great. Thank you, madam chair. Okay, thank you. Thank you, madam chair. Thank.

B

You so much, and so we're just gonna go to staff. If the staff can present on.

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This do we have staff here, thank you and do we have question if you could present.

B

First, maybe give us the history and absent us here. I think what I'll do is.

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First show the neighborhood, especially on glen watford, that's in the affected.

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Area and maybe I can point out the addresses, I think mr. zito is referring.

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To okay, so I'm just gonna point here we can see this is midland avenue running.

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North, if you can refer to it on the boundary map that we have to the report,.

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And this is glen, watford drive running north and, of course, as you go further.

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East towards bromley road, we can see just from the picture the size of the.

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Lots that are there right now, I'm, for instance, glen watford drive, has about.

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The whole streets hundred foot lots that's out there now. I think mr. zito.

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Talked about carving 66 glen watford into two 50-foot lots of fifty point.

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Fifteen point two four meter lots and this lot here at the corner is 58 glen.

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Watford drive, there is a proposal in for committee of adjustment from suzie doe.

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On behalf of his client to make that into four lots that quite a lot so you'd.

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Have a forty foot lot this way a 40 foot lot this way and two 40 foot lots off of.

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The side street, montgomery okay, so basically staff is recommending that the.

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Application be approved in order to correct.

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Or a technical amendment to city to city initiated technical amendment to restore.

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The lot frontages that were originally created and when you look back at these.

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Lots they were created in the early 1950s. I think they're about four.

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Subdivision plans registered subdivision plans, three of them off of midland and.

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One of them encompassing most of the lots to the east and north and south. I.

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Think that was created in 1953 and under the old agincourt community zoning bylaw.

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Which was approved in 1960 by city of scarborough and 62 by the omb. It had a.

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Performance standard in the agincourt community, zoning bylaw. That said.

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Basically, that you could only have one single-family home on one lot, that was.

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Created through the plan registered plan of subdivision- and I guess as mr. zito.

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Said when the partial approval of the omb occurred in september of 2016, it.

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Overrode that original approval, a regulation that was in the agincourt.

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Bylaw and the applicable regulations were the general provisions of the.

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Residential detached zone, which was a 12 meter, lot frontage minimum, which is for.

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House, which is about 39, point 3 feet and a minimum lottery of about 360 square.

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Meters, which is a little over 3,200 square feet. Those are, you know, those.

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Regulations are well under what's out there now in the neighborhood, and so.

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What we've found as we processed and looked at the survey applications, was.

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That there was something missing from the site specific exception to the rd.

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Zone for this part of the affected area in the neighborhood of agincourt, unlike.

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What occurred on the west side of brimley, which was correctly done in.

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Terms of the site-specific, which basically grandfather.

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The existing lot frontages and la terrasse as the requirement.

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Unfortunately, on the east side of midland that didn't happen,.

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And what we need to do now is to restore or re-establish the required minimum lot.

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Frontages and large areas as that which exists out there in the neighborhood and.

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That which was created at the time of the early 1950s register plans of.

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Subdivision so bring it back in line with the original zoning approval for.

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Agincourt and it's an established neighborhood, the main premise of this is.

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The zoning should implement the official plan policies and the official plan.

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Policies designate, there is neighborhoods and you know the.

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Neighborhoods are physically to reflect and reinforce any new development in the.

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Neighborhoods to reflect to reinforce size and configuration of lots, building.

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Type and that's clear in the official plan under the neighborhood's.

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Designation, as was referred to by one of the the the residents who spoke in favor,.

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Of leaving the neighborhood the way it is, and and so right now, the zoning that.

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Exists right now is not in line with the official plan as the rest of the.

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Neighborhoods around it, and we need to bring that zoning back in line with the.

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Intent to to maintain, what's there now in this established neighborhood, so our.

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Recommendation is to recommend to amend the site specific exception 267 to add.

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Words back in there to recognize the existing lot frontages and lot areas.

L

That required minimums at the time of the passing of the bylaw in 2013, okay,.

B

Okay, thank you, and so is there any questions of staff.

B

Yep councillor kelley just want to make sure that a poor layman, like myself.

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Understands what is being asked of us today by both staff and the deputy.

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The when the zoning bylaws were we're talking about zoning bylaws is that.

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Correct, yes, and they were when they were passed a few years back. The minimum lot.

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Frontage at that time was established at 12 meters. That's the current general.

L

Regulations, yes, the nuba we've since discovered that it should have been 15.

D

Meters, yes, it should have recognized what's out there now and that's what.

D

You're asking us to do today. Yes, the deputy is saying: look it go ahead and do.

D

That but carve out our two properties so that we're not governed by this new.

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Regulation is that correct? Yes, he's looking for an exemption of some sort.

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Now, if we turn that down, if we, if we decide against that, can the deputed.

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Still go to the committee of adjustment and ask for that. Well, I believe we have.

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A committee of adjustment application and already 458, glen, watford and and as.

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You've heard, oh, is this and I apologize for.

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Interrupting so as this is the deputy really trying to get from council.

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Community council, what he wanted to get from committee of adjustment, it appears.

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That he's asking for dealing with his matter now, okay and as we've heard.

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Collins already advised we don't know if we don't accede to his.

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Request there still is an outstanding request at committee of adjustment for.

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The same purpose is that correct, yes, there's still a committee of adjustment.

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Application that's been filed. Thank you. Thank you and others to questions staff.

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No I'll ask a question: yeah. Okay, so would I'm just wondering? Did they.

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Purchase the properties after because it sounds like there was a mistake that was.

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Made was it a mistake or not a mistake in terms of the bylaw, there was an.

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Oversight of some matter that happened because the two sentences that are.

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Required, in that exception, 267 that appears in the neighborhood around it.

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It's not there, okay and and to be consistent and to implement the official.

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Plan policies of the neighborhood, we need to put those those two regulations.

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Back into the exception, 267 similar to what's around in the neighborhood to.

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Again, kind of grandfather, the existing lot furnitures and large areas of.

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Requirements and standards, as was originally created back in the 50s right.

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So if there's, if there was an oversight by staff and would that be a premise or.

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A base for an argument for the applicant- I I think the argument will do their.

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Best to argue their case like I couldn't you know specifically say you know in in.

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In terms of planning, you know, we've we've caught it and as we as we've seen.

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Before I think 66 I don't know mr. zito I 66.

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Klein watford, I think it's it's either this property or this property. These two.

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Properties mid block one of those 66 he's looking to carve up into 250 foot.

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Deep lots and build a house in there and I believe, you've just said you've made.

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An application to see a very last thing. I know.

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It was in ppr yeah. Well, I know I know but you're saying so. There's other.

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Application, well, you know that the problem is, if we don't deal with this.

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Now it's not at the neighbourhood could potentially, but we could see more.

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Application: okay, cuz, because there this this, these two lines.

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Are absent from from the the apology to 6/7 in the new citywide zoning bylaw.

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Okay, where this affected in this neighborhood, okay, it's there for.

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Everything else right so for this okay, so that was either an oversight or just.

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Was absent from that bylaw? Okay, it's a large bylaw and I understand a large.

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Citywide by law, you know you pick things up down the road: okay, okay, great and.

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Council early to question, I don't have any questions. Oh okay! So there's no.

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Other questions of staff. Thank you so much and now to speak, sir. Yes I'll, speak first question you have more.

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Questions and stuff, okay, there's one further make sure I understand it.

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Whether this property or these properties, there, two of them end up with.

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A bylaw that says 15 meters, frontage or 12 meters frontage, the applicant, would.

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Still have to apply for a variance at the committee of adjustment. Well, if we.

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Don't so it doesn't matter if community matter what the bylaws states in terms.

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Of frontage, the applicant still has to ask committee of adjustment for a.

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Variance is that correct in terms of timing, he's made his application already.

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And it just needs to be scheduled on write to the committee of adjustment.

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Madam chair, if I could assist in in clarifying so yes, these are large lots.

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And anyone who wishes to further subdivide them will be required to go.

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The committee of adjustment for consent, application to sever into two or more.

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Lots no matter whether this bylaw is amended today or not. They will still.

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Have to go to the committee yeah would. Would you agree that.

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In supporting the recommendations of staff and declining to support the the.

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Deputy position that our job is to is to establish the bylaws and not function as.

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A committee of adjustment and grant variances prior to the decision of the.

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Committee of adjustment through the chair, what is before community council.

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Today is simply the amendment to the bylaw. The applicant will still have.

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Their the applicant, the property owners in the area, still have a right to it. To.

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Make an application at the committee, and that is the appropriate time to decide.

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Whether a severance is appropriate or not, based on the zoning bylaw that.

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Applies at the time if they move quickly, the bylaw that applies is the current.

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One if they do not move quickly, then if then, this proposed amendment is in full.

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Force and effect, then the new bylaw will apply to a consent, application, okay,.

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Thank you and to speak councillor lee. Thank you very much, madam chair. Let me.

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Tell you a little bit, we discovered this beginning of this year and I asked.

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Offices just move for that cool amendment, but staff tells me it has to.

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Go to due process, so this has been bought in in this form, and I had to.

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Regularity staff to get an awesome, bring forward this report and this report now.

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This was a whole area. It was to crack an oversight that we did not put this the.

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Previous zoning bylaws back in for this whole area, this whole quadrant. So that's.

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What staff is bringing back to ensure that the all standards is put back in.

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So that's why I'm moving the staff report to put this back into zoning so.

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I hope that all of your support is the applicant for this two properties still.

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Have the ability to go forward into a communal justment and do whatever need.

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To do because you're severing property anyways, you have to go to chimaera.

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Justman, so I think we just move this as what staff recommended and deal with.

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Becoming adjustments when it comes along. Thank you. Thank you.

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And cancered bear maker. Thank you. I will support what councillor lee is saying.

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And certainly did the staff report before us. We in scarborough, we have very.

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Few pockets of these rural properties left very, very few I'd be surprised if.

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There's one per ward there might be, but if it's one per ward there's there's not.

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Many we have tens of thousands of 50 foot, lots and 30 foot lots and 27 foot.

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Lots and 42 foot lots. We do not have this type of rural community left in.

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Scarborough, I think, there's a role in terms of the diversification of housing.

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To have these estate pockets is what I used to describe them as and I'll still.

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Use that word of as an estate character, you know the applicant comes and again.

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One of the best architects. I think that scarborough seen and certainly the.

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Decades that I've been around saying you know it's, it makes it. You know intensification makes for a more efficient use of the sewage system. Well,.

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There's more to life and making an efficient use of the sewage system.

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There's the quality of life, there's the investment that people have made the one.

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Deputy and who came and said back in 1977, my family invested our life savings.

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Into this community, because we liked what we saw- and this is what this is.

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What we've worked hard to do for a investor or a speculator or a builder or.

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A contractor or just the people, next door, who say you know what my property.

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If I subdivide it into three or four, I could become a millionaire and therefore.

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I will become the a millionaire at the expense of the people. Next to me, and.

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Across the street, because they'll still be living here, but I will.

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My million bucks, profit and move somewhere else is is not acceptable to.

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Me so I would hope- and I will not move a motion now, but I certainly expect our.

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Planning staff, when this comes to committee of adjustment, this is such a.

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Violation of our official plan policies that there will be a negative staff.

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Report sent to the committee of adjustment saying that this violates our.

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Principles of protecting existing neighborhoods- that's in our official.

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Plan policy, so yes, its, they got many different parts of an official plan, but.

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One of the important policies is to protect the existing residents in the.

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Existing community, once you open up the door to letting somebody subdivide one.

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Lot into three or four and make their million bucks you'll have speculators on.

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Every single street on every single corner and this area will be too.

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Stabilized- and it won't just happen here- it'll happen all across scarborough. It's.

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People have attempted it. I have to tell you, I have to say some very horrible.

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Applications in my ward in the teeny-weeny little c, debray pocket that.

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I have my pocket of rural homes is less than 1% of my homes. It's like a speck of.

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Dust and even there I have people who have no ownership in the community, no.

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History in the community, their kids have never gone to school. There.

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They've never walked around to the store, they've, never gone to the park. People.

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Just speculators buying hoping they can get lucky by going to committee of.

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Adjustment and becoming millionaires that the easy way this is not something.

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That we should accept here and I'm tempted to move a motion, but I think we.

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Have to allow the committee of adjustment process to go through, but I.

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Hope that our staff will be as strong on on these inappropriate applications as.

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They have been strong on some of the other inappropriate applications we've seen in these for these big lot areas. Thank you, madam chair. Thank you.

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Councillor jerry maker and then councillor kelly and then councillor care janice. Thank you, chair chair. I want to commend councillor lee for not only.

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Identifying this error, but bringing it immediately to our attention.

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I support the recommendations of staff very strongly. You know when we boast.

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About the city of toronto, to others, we often describe the city as a city of.

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Neighborhoods- and this certainly is one of them and different neighborhoods- have.

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Different characteristics- and this one has a characteristic of- I guess, semi.

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Rural and is very charming, as a result, very comfortable feeling of space and.

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Nature in a city that is becoming increasingly more populous and dense in.

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Its appearance and context, so I would hope- and I suspect that this committee.

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Will support council early in his in his efforts to make sure that he provides as.

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Much protection to this neighborhood as possible. We are not a committee of.

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Adjustment and I think that the request by the deputed, although I understand the.

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Dynamics that lay behind it, I think, is in the end, unreasonable and violates.

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What I would consider to be due process so speaker, those are my those are my.

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Thoughts and I'm hoping that we do the right thing great and councillor cara.

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Janice call the question, I'm sure, okay, and so you are, I was just going to say. I.

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Agree with the sentiments- yes, that's right, it's yeah, it actually is in order.

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Before us I'll, just repeat exactly what councillor and he was saying and what.

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Councillor kelley and councillor domenico mentioned is that the item.

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Before us is actually just to make sure that we put in what the staff should.

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Have originally, I understand that I'm answering your.

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Question you had confusion. You sounded confused whether this was an order, so we.

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Just want to make sure, and let everybody know there that it is before us and.

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Councillor lee has moved moved about moved the item before us so and we're.

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Gonna have everything there isn't. There is a request to call the question. It's.

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Properly placed before us, I would like the privilege of voting against it even.

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Though there are no further speakers, okay, so motions on the floor, I'll, secure.

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Janice councillor cure janice shouldn't be taking the rights away from other.

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Members of his committee, that yourself, for example, or councilor heart or shan.

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Or any of us that may wish to oh councillor, ainsley that may wish to.

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Speak: it's not right to cut people off so he's entitled to put that in request.

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And I'm entitled to vote against it, so I'm happy to have the question called so.

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I can vote against his motion. Okay, so the questions been called all those in.

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Favor opposed, and that fails so any other councillors wishing to speak to.

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The item- okay, seeing none I'll speak to the item. Thank you. So, as I was saying, I.

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Actually, concur with what my fellow colleagues thank you so much counselor.

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Lee for bringing this forward in my word as well there I have very, very few.

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Pockets, gems, I would say such as this, where we have very large frontages in.

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Scarborough we've been blessed with amazing parks, amazing, forestry and.

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Councillor hart was was leading the charge on that for the city of toronto,.

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And we've done phenomenal work here, but we also need to protect that in our.

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Ravines as well, we've amazing amazing green space here, but there are.

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Neighborhoods that have been impacted. I've had them in my own, so I think.

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Council early in bringing this item forward, it actually is something that.

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Was missed and and I'm not blaming staff I know it's. I was a huge review that we.

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Undertook and it's hard to capture every single aspect of that. So I'm glad that.

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This small aspect is being wrapped up today, so I'll be supporting.

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That recommendation before us, so with that all those in favor will have a.

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Recorded vote councillor kelly councillor hart councillor shan.

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Councillor krg, honest councillor, league councillor, holland, councillor ainsley,.

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And cancered mayor maker, so that's unanimous support. Thank you. So much.

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Okay, so the next one, I'm wondering on a point.

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Of order, I took note of councillor care janice's concern about a number of.

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Parents here in the audience about twenty nine point, sixteen and I'm.

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Wondering if we want to reorder the order paper so that they come next so.

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That, hopefully, they can do their deputations and they can get back to.

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Their families and their kids and their schools, maybe before we go for a lunch.

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Break, I see some other people that we would put them in front of, but they seem.

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To me to be more professional businesses and I don't mind, wait wait putting the.

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Parents first, so I don't know if councillor care janice is comfortable.

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With that motion, so I know we had discussed this at the beginning prior to.

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The meeting started starting and I spoke with councillor shan and I'd like to.

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Offer councillor she understood say, say something to that: I'm good with moving.

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It if it's moving right right now, that's the next item. I'm good with it.

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It was just asked to move one item. No, even I also want to release an item so.

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That the staff related to that item can go so councillor shan skinner do a quick.

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Release of an item which is sc 29.9, the scarborough centre, public art master.

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Plan which was talk to the staff and I'm will have a follow-up meeting, so I'm.

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Willing to release this now, okay, so all those in favor of that item, sc 29.9.

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Opposed and that carries and then on the reordering of the order paper, all those.

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In favor opposed, and that carries so the next item up is sc 29 point 16, which is.

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Request for report regarding speed, humps traffic control measures near kennedy.

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Public school and david lewis public school, so we do have a list of speakers.

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If anybody else does wish to add their name to the list.

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We have a clerk, we have the clerk, we may have the clerk situated right here. We.

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Have our clerk here, who may add your name to the list and then first up, we.

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Have dennis linu who's, president of health, would rate payers, association.

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Okay and mr. lu knew your speech has been distributed as well. Thank you. So.

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Much and so you have five minutes to speak. Thank you very much. My name is.

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Denis lanoue and I'm the president of the eat would rate payers association.

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Which represent a thousand four hundred single family residents in the cordon.

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Kennedy, burge mom steals the mcnichol. I lived in this community for 34 years and.

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I retired 14 years ago, as chemical engineers with 35 years experience with.

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Imperial oil senior management in refining and distribution operation.

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There was a fatality that occurred on february, the 27th 2018 with the 11 year.

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Old grade 6 student at kennedy, public school, that was caused by three factors.

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From my perspective, the student view was obstructed by cars parked at the end of.

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The walkway to pick up other students. Similarly, the drivers view was.

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Obstructed by the same cars, secondly, the driver was going too fast.

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The minivan passed over the student and stopped about 30 meters further. Thirdly,.

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The students should have crossed at m feel south intersection where the.

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Crossing yard is position at our board meeting on march 1st 2018. We discuss the.

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Actions record to prevent reoccurrence with the school representative, including.

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The superintendent, the principal some teachers, city staff, city, councilor and.

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Several resident it was decided, then, to close the walkway on a temporary basis.

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Until we could study and implement the five following recommendation, the first.

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One is to prohibit the stepping in front of the.

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Oh qui and 30 meters each side. Second one is to install a three-way stop at.

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Alman or south to allow people to cross canongate as they come off the walkway.

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Thirdly, we want to reduce the speed on canongate from 40 to 30 kilometers, an.

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Hour: fourth, we want to install speed humps in the corridor. Pursell canongate.

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Kelvingrove and also on em feels out in front of the school where more than 300.

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Cars are bringing students mainly from outside the community in the morning, and.

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Picking them up in the afternoon, the fifth recommendation is to install no.

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U-Turn, signs on canongate nm feel where students are dropped off and picked up.

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We also requested the school to talk to the dozen students living on aquaman or.

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South and their parents, so that they used a crossing guard all the time for.

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Crossing canongate. Lastly, we requested the superintendent to see if he could.

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Reduce the number of cars, especially those of parents living in markham, we.

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Are in support of councillor kerry, janice motion, 2916, requesting speed, arms.

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In the eat wood community to ensure the safety of residents, including all the.

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Children living in the community, the corridor, kevin grove, canongate, purcell.

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Is also used by many vehicles in late afternoon early evening and on weekends.

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To bypass the busy intersection on kennedy, steel's with vehicle coming from.

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All over gta to get access to the busy asian malls in markham this traffic.

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Situation will be compounded starting this summer by metallic metrolinx, a.

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Construction of the go train on the pass on steel. We see these speed humps as a.

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Mean of slowing down traffic and also of deterring traffic infiltration in our.

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Community we know that speed arms exist in many streets.

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Over toronto in markham, just north of us, in stovall, in aura, etc. We are at loss as.

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To why scarborough council is preventing us from grading them when the safety of.

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Our children and resident is at stake. I added another paragraph, I'm not sure.

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Whether you get this one, but I need to inform you that the second incident.

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Occurred in fact, on monday last monday march, the 26th in that same corridor a.

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Grade one student had his foot rolled over by a car at the intersection of.

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Canongate and purcell as the student was trying to cross the parents brought the.

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Student to a doctor and they declined to report it to police, and so I'm going to.

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See if there's any questions any questions, counselor care, janice thank.

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You, madam chair, mr. new, would you be, since you lived in that area for a long.

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Time would you be able to give us a history of there's any other accidents?

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Besides, you mentioned the a fatal accident and I believe you also.

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Mentioned an accident that occurred a couple of days ago is there any other.

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Accidents that that you can tell us about, since you live in the area for so.

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Long about two years ago consider, I must admit they were. There- was a rollover on.

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Purcell street, I still can't figure out how the car rolled over, but the car.

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Rolled over at 3:30 on purcell, and they were, the students were coming off. The.

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School, nobody was injured at that time, but I remember saying the car with the.

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Two passengers inside and students all around and the police was arriving at.

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The scene, I can tell you also that about three years ago, a car missed the curve.

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On canongate, because there is a curve, our community is a circle which.

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Canongate in the center and and people are speeding up on that curve, so miss.

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The curve and hit the fence hit, they destroyed a shed on the property at the.

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Corner of vaughan bush. Similarly, there is a.

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A person living on the other side on canongate, a 2008 canongate, and that.

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Person cannot keep a tree in front of her property because the cars are.

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Constantly running over the boulevard over there, so cars are missing it and I.

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Must admit personally, with my wife within here today with me, I almost run b.

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I almost have been run over by a car in that corridor, as I cross the kelvingrove.

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One one evening after dinner and around 7 o'clock I had to push on the vehicle.

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So that the car would not hit me, so it's it's a scary. It's a it's a place where.

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You have more traffic in the evening and more traffic with the school in school.

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Out because a lot of people are coming from outside our community, we had a very.

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Nice, as like mr. linder, beer maker, would mentioned a very nice community when I.

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Moved there in 1983 and in this community, as the traffic has increased.

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Because of some changes in the surrounding area- and we are still- we are.

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Still a loving community but there's a lot more traffic and we have to.

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Establish things like speed ups in the community and the the restriction that I.

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Mentioned four stops and all of it so that we can protect our resident and.

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Especially the children of our community, mr. lullo, your community has been.

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Working with me and the previous councillor for speed humps how many.

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Years has this been on the table and how many years have you be? You folks have.

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Been calling for and working with in order to accomplish this, how many years.

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Well about ten years ago, we made an application for speed humps in our.

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Community, I remember talking to several residents and what the process was at.

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That time it was they, they were sending letters to all the houses that were.

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Along the canongate boulevard and also kelvin grove and.

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There is no house on personnel, but all these people were asked to vote and what.

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Happened is that people were not responding, because several of these.

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Houses are rooming houses with with the owner that.

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Is not even on site. So therefore, the the the notes were not responded, and I don't.

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Have the proper statistics, but about 30 percent.

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The vote was about 30 percent positive in favor of speed humps, and it was a.

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Bureaucratic nightmare, as far as I'm concerned, the way that our community is.

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Built we have the main circle, as I said, plus some use all around. So most of the.

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People lives in the materia, but but the speed track in the center has to be.

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Dealt with there way that we dealt with ten years ago. We added five stops in.

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That circle, this is what mike dell grantee got for us and still today, we.

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Are still facing some people speeding up for testing their tires in our curves.

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Etc, or rushing back home whatever, how surprised would you be if I was to tell.

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You what the process that you want back then, is still the same process that it's.

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In the books today, I'm sorry how surprised madam chair, I cannot hear.

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Myself, we do have a conversation going on site. How surprised mr. renault would.

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You be if I was to tell you that the same process that you dealt with back then, is still the same process that has to be dealt with today. If you want to.

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Put calming traffic calming measures; let's put it this way. I read articles. I.

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Think in the scarborough mirrors two weeks ago saying that I was almost crazy.

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To come in here to ask you, because all the council is against this thing, but.

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You know, as far as I'm concerned iii go through toronto extensively. I I.

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Walked through yorkville I or I go to forest if I go rose there we take was in.

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The district, the article at the distillery district and things like this.

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As a senior I go for walks across there on toe, I see these speed humps all over.

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The place, okay, they are existent in toronto. We even have some in scarborough.

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And the common the, how do you call the kennedy comments is where I saw them.

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Last weekend, but we don't have them on street just north of us. There is a.

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Similar bypass to go to pacific mall and they in markham, they have speed. Ups, all.

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Over the place to prevent the cars from going fast in.

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Our case people are trying to reach specific model through the back side.

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Using pass more and the old kennedy, and and as far as I'm concerned, we should.

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Have the speed arms available to us as well? Thank you thank you and councillor.

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To bear maker, thank you three mit, madam chair, and thank you very much for coming.

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In today, and I certainly support a lot of what's in your submission to us- I do.

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Have a concern about speed bumps, and are you aware that our emergency services.

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Recommend against speed bumps I'm aware of this thing. I read your comments about.

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It, but you know I've been around, you know in you know. When I go to my doctor.

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There are speed ups on roselia and and the snow is being clean over the speed.

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Arms the emergency vehicles are passing over the speed arms. It leads to me to.

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The main hospital downtown, so I'm not overly worried as a senior I'm a true.

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Senior in my 70s and I'm not overly worried about speed ups for when they.

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Will carry me to the hospital I'll have my heart attack, you think we should.

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Ignore the advice of the police department: well, what I'm saying is that.

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You know if they are advising you in here in district 42 and 43.

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I'm telling you that other districts are not until the same way they have very.

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Nice one roselia roselia is the place where I was last week. I mean they advise.

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They are well indicated, and people are not going fast over there. They put the.

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Speed limit they are designed for 30 kilometers and people are not going 40.

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Or 60, so through you monitor, I guess my question to you was: do you theodore the.

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Advice of the police department, I think so I think so I think you should you.

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Should ignore this advice and and with the speed humps in toronto, the same.

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Way as my children, my grandchildren go to school in aurora and and in markham.

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And since to ville, in fact, and they have speed ups right across the school.

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I cannot go there full speed, I have to slow down. It brings back the the.

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People's attention, when they see a speed ups, they have to slow down, and you think.

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We should also ignore the advice of our fire department, which recommends against.

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Speed humps! Well, I think you won't ignore them orders to a box. What I'm.

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Saying is that they are why, if y r-d, advising you again sitting in.

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Scarborough and not in downtown toronto, I mean talk to the other councillors in.

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Downtown toronto: they have them all over the place. I used to work in don't.

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Especially used to try to you know, I only have a certain amount of time. I'm.

H

Trying to ask you a question, so I understand your submission to us, I'm not asking about all that other stuff. I asked you. Should we ignore the police.

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You said yes and you and I asked, should we ignore the fire department and you.

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Have said yes, should we also ignore the paramedic sure I think you should.

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Question these three people, so that we clash your point of order. I just think.

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ah Sorry counselor debris maker. We have a point of order. Madam chair, I the the.

J

President of the reaper association is here telling us of what happened. You.

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Know like this is for traffic engineers regarding what ttc is saying and.

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Everybody else, I don't think those questions are wrong and think you're badgering, the the dipshit yeah, I'm not sure, that's the point of order and any.

H

Stretch of the imagination, but thank you councillor, kerr, janice and through you.

H

Madam chair, again in terms of speed bumps you're recommending one I I.

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Support other options to protect your children and all of our children. Don't.

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Support speed humps, but have you you've seen speed humps most of other people in.

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This room- I I think you'd agree, are good people and when we see speed humps, we.

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Slow down, in fact, hopefully none of us in this room ever speed, correct.

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We don't speed because we want to keep our community safe. We are using speed.

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Arms, you know the extension of kelvingrove goes to harvest moon in.

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Markham and we, the community, we are using this thing.

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All the time, so they have them in markham and we don't have them. You know we just live south of steel markham. If you can focus.

H

On my questions for a little bit through you, madam chair, so have you observed like I've observed in life because I being a city councilor.

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I look at speed bumps. Have you noticed that cars when they approach a speed.

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Bump actually do slow down. Yes, yes, yes, and have you noticed that as soon as.

H

They get over the speed bump they speed up. No, you haven't observed that in your.

H

Life as a as a senior, as you said, all over the place you go down. I've seen.

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People going over to speed, humps and waking up and putting the brakes right.

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After yeah, because their car would and then they just continue going forward at.

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25 or so there's like so the rate after, I don't think that I have observed that.

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Thing: okay, great! Thank you! Okay, great! Thank you! Mr. allen, ooh and the next up.

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Is miroslav gråvik hi, I'm just gonna reset and then you.

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Have five minutes my best friend lives an open manner right right there and she.

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Walks in the area, her mother, who, at the time was 97, got hit by a bike, are going.

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Fast, I don't know if any of your night he said 97 but 97 he's bigger danger.

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More unsafe, there's a street in councillor kelly's ward, called tim.

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Burbank boulevard- and I spoke here here about it- it has a lot of speed bumps and.

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Has enough speed bumps that if you go more than 30 km/h, it's gonna time at.

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Your car, they street a lot of a people speed if any. If you have children and.

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The car, god forbid, hits them you're gonna, be feeling that the same thing.

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That street canongate cars go way too fast and if he put the right amount of.

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Speed bumps, yes, cars will slow down and that helps for many years. I asked I.

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Emailed three one romo was a process to get speed bumps that whole process is.

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Complete garbage thing takes too long, as I'm sure counselor carrie janice has had.

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Phone calls emails and maybe even faxes, that street needs calming measures and.

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One of the best ways is speed bumps. If you go over certain speed, the right.

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Height the right shape the right size. The right amount of speed burns will.

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Slow traffic on nobody speeds on tim, burbank boulevard. Cuz. This way, big, not a.

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Number of speed bumps can engage that the whole entire street.

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Should be full of speed bumps and with all the respect to certain councilor.

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Here, yes, speed bumps, do slope slow down and not nobody on timber bank boulevard.

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Students they cross the speed bump, starts to speed up because then the next.

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One is a few meters away. Thank you. Any questions.

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Cement. Thank you so much just very quickly before we move on to the next.

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Step you tuned, we have a quick gonna, have a point of order.

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Yes, can surly yeah, I we skipped other items so on item twenty nine point: eight.

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I just wanted more for deferral to june 6 meeting and just have a quick revote.

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On ok so we're moving item, which is sc 29.8.

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The intention to designate under part four section 29 of the ontario heritage.

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Act: 33:15 midland avenue, that's a deferral by cancer lead to june. I have a quick question of the mover. Are you suggesting.

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That be the first item of business. Are you suggesting that that become the.

H

First item of business, so they don't have no I'm just moving to defer to june.

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And then bill hadley in june, okay, and would you like it to be first on the.

H

Agenda not necessary, there could be other things on the goal, but okay, if, if.

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It can be, then the applicants would really appreciate it, but I think for now.

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We worked with terry on that in the first item: okay, okay, yeah, I'm sure the.

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Clerk's will make special note of that and then, given the timed items at the.

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Beginning and also I just wanted to make sure that there are no other deputies on.

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That item, which is se 29.8 just before we move deferral if there's any other.

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People wishing to be to speak, no see none, okay, thank you so much and then so.

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On the deferral all those in favor opposed in that carry, so that's moved to.

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June, thank you so much okay and then just to resume back to its.

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Karen pietsch, which is who's the principal of david lewis, public school.

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Okay, great so I'll just meant so we have ms peach.

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Who's, the principal of david lewis, public school and dean, malvern principal.

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Of terry fox, public school and then frank, lu, principal of kennedy, public.

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School. Thank you so much. Thank you good morning, I'd like to introduce you.

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To three elementary principals from tdsb schools in ward 39, I'm frank leo from.

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Kennedy public school with my colleagues karen pietsch from david lewis, public.

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School and dean malvern from terry fox public school, although it's just the.

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Three of us here today, standing in front of you, we speak for the hundreds of.

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Schools across the tdsb that are experiencing the same issue, our.

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Purpose is to advocate for change that improve pedestrian safety in and around.

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School zones used by our students, as you know, at kennedy, public school, we had a.

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Traffic fatality on february 27th after school, where a motorist struck and.

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Killed 11 year-old grade six student and shoe despite past city bylaw measures.

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Police enforcement and school pedestrian education campaigns. This tragedy did.

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Occur in the weeks immediately following duncan's death, motorists were more.

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Cautious around the school, however, as recently as last week, we did.

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Have a near miss near the school less than 20 meters from where duncan was.

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Killed this is my first year at kennedy, but traffic and pedestrian safety has.

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Been a long-standing concern in our school community in recent years, kennedy.

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Has been given a crossing guard at its nearest intersection done, educational.

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Talks with students, through both toronto police and school staff, and even started.

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A kiss and ride program that began a week before duncan's tragic accident.

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This kiss and ride has helped make drop-off in the morning' safer and.

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Easier for parents during the preschool drop-off time our parents have mobilized.

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And gone door-to-door in our community to seek support of multiple traffic.

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Calming measures that include the speed humps three-way stop at the intersection.

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Where duncan was killed and reducing speed during school hours? Well, sadly, we can never guarantee that this will never.

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Happen again, we can do our best to learn from the tragedy and put measures in.

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Place to minimize the likelihood of it happening again, thank you for.

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Consideration and now my colleague miss peach good morning and welcome to the.

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Parents that are here behind us, we appreciate your support. I've been.

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Principal at david lewis, for 17 years and we have gone from a school.

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Population of three hundred to four 95 in that time, with this increased.

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Population in the addition of a ymca on the premise providing before during and.

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After school supervision, 400 students there is increased traffic into and out.

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Of the school as one would expect, in spite of the involvement of our school.

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Councils over the years who have tried to address these concerns through.

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Petitions from the community asking for traffic studies, calming measures.

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Flashing lights and additional signs that were clearly addressed parking.

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Issues little has changed to control, unsafe traffic movement and speed around.

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Our school and we've been repeatedly told that the conditions around our.

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School do not warrant any special calming features, as recently as last.

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Week people were parking under the new stop sign that was just installed. Do the.

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Persistence of our councillor, jim curry, giannis or they were moving along fund a.

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Band making a u-turn at the first street beyond the stop sign to speed student.

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Drop-Off as well, three cars were parked side by side facing west on hyundai fund.

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Ebay and students, with the help of the school safety patrol errs, were dodging.

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Between the park cars, as students tried to cross until teacher, saw what was.

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Going on and intervened off the school property.

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To make sure everyone arrived alive with our increased concerned in mind for.

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Student safety we applied last week to the police chief for an adult crossing.

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Guard and received word today that once again there was a long waiting list that.

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There would be an additional need for another traffic study, which makes three.

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Over the last many years and that the ruhr, a limited number to be given out.

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And many factors would be considered before one would be assigned. I would.

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Passionately ask that our concerns over unsafe, unsafe traffic flow.

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Around david lewis be examined once again and that some calming measures be.

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Put in place immediately, I do not want to be in the position that was placed on.

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My colleague at kennedy, public school, the death of an 11 year old, is a.

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Terrible tragedy good morning, I'm dean.

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Malvern and I'm currently the principal of terry fox public school I've been at.

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This school for five years, I'd like to share my thoughts and ideas of our.

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School community in regards to the traffic and pedestrian safety around our.

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School, our school is located at 185 wintermute.

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Boulevard, which is just at the corner of birch, mount and wintermute, which is very.

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Close to kennedy public school, it's a regular route for ttc buses and it's a.

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Very heavily traveled route. It is also located on two very distinct curves in.

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Collaboration with the toronto police service, terry fox, has implemented safety.

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Programs such as kiss and ride and student safety patrollers there are.

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Programs whereby parents can pull up in front of the school and the grade eight.

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Student will take their child from the vehicle to the supervised school ground.

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Location, the design is intended to keep the traffic flowing. We have also.

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Implemented locked to school incentive programs for all classrooms in the.

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School and regular education of parents and students in regards to the traffic.

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Traffic safety and, following the guidelines of the current established.

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Programs such items is only pulling up on one side of the road and not getting.

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Out of the vehicle are imperative for programs that run properly and are.

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Emphasized regularly, because this is what keeps traffic flowing our model.

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Which we consistently state is safety over convenience. Despite these efforts.

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We still see multiple dangerous activities on the daily basis, a phone.

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Consultation with my staff, students and the parent body, the following activities.

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Are the most common dangerous safety concerns which we see every single day.

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As we are out in the front, the school everyday speeding cars will.

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Actually zigzag around other cars and traffic to try again around the area in.

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Front of the school legal three-point turns it's very common.

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Despite constant education and engaging the offenders, it creates confusion.

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Frustration and very dangerous situations on the roadway parking and.

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Exiting the vehicle, these actions will stall the entire kiss and ride setup and.

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Will actually lead to traffic jams and frustration parking on the wrong side of.

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The road this is an extremely dangerous activity which will lead to gridlock in.

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The area on many occasions, small children, have been observed being let.

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Out of the parents car on the other side of the roadway and running across the.

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Street in this traffic mess it can happen so quickly that nobody has any.

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Time to react. Another major concern is that this is a.

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Very common ttc route ttc drivers are very professional and patient.

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Individuals, but this situation is extremely dangerous, as these are very.

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Large buses- and they are placed in the middle of this congestion. It would be.

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Very difficult for the driver of a large ttc bus to see a little five-year-old in.

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Such a busy and congested scenario, all schools were essentially designed as.

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Walking schools. They were designed with the belief that all the children of the.

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Local school area would walk to and from school each day. However, in this court.

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World, that's not a reality. Despite education and incentive programs.

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The majority of the people continue to drive recognizing. This fact is something.

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That the school will continue to address the school community has put everything.

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We can possibly think of to keep our children safe, while they're at school. We.

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Ask for the city assistance in helping with roadway in front of the schools as.

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It falls broad our jurisdiction. We will always continue to educate and inform.

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About the roadway but have no powers of enforcement, we understand it's a.

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Complicated matter and that there are no easy solutions, but no school community.

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Should more in a tragic law of a young life possible suggestions.

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Would have been put forth by my community include common zones.

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Reconsideration of the ttc route at the 15 to 20 minute high congestion time.

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Electronic and lit no 3-point turn signs electronic radar signs and regular.

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Enforcement during peak times, thank you very much. Thank you and questions. We.

B

Have cancer care janice? Thank you madam chair. I was wondering if you can tell us.

J

What the I believe it's called eqa owes the ratings you're, the school's.

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First, in terms of eql ratings- again they fluctuate from year to year, but I.

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Believe kennedy is in the top 100 in province, we're in the top 10 or 15 in.

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The province, our schools do very very well. In eqo, we have very involved.

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Schools, lots of things going on for children and our staffs. Do it willingly.

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With enthusiasm- and they are great learning cultures, but what we can't do.

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Now is keep the roads safe and we cannot. We cannot guarantee that every every.

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Child is going to be dropped off in a safe place or dropped off at our school.

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Like they're supposed to be, we need to slow our tribe, our traffic down. Is it.

J

True that real estate agents that are selling homes in the area are.

J

Advertising the area as an attraction of having good schools. Yes,.

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I've also understand that the dollars follow the student, so if people are.

J

Coming down from markham to attend the school, the dollars that the province.

J

Gives go to the school, so would this be one of the reasons that your schools are.

J

Busting at the seams and are overcrowded, I mean you're an attractive. I mean.

J

You're attracting people to school, so you having you're exceeding your.

J

Capacity- this is a yes, yes, yes, a david louis. We are very much exceeding our.

Q

Capacity and terry fox you're looking to add addition, man correct yes, we're also.

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Exceeding our capacity, we are close to optional attendance, which means you have.

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To live in the area to be at our school and, I believe, art the two schools next.

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To me are as well, and we are in the middle of planning, for, in addition to.

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Terry fox, yes, I think thank you and counselor shannon. Thank you, madam.

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Speaker how many students are at each of these.

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Schools I have 496 610 430. What's the I'm trying.

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To figure out the same thing is there, I see mention one of the principal's.

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Mentioned hundreds of schools going through a similar situation, that's the.

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Reality in many of our awards and we've seen individual schools come a network.

G

Here- and you have three of you together, I just want to I'm trying to find if I.

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Can get ten of my schools together to push together some sort of thing, so what.

G

What is the, what is the what's the rationale for this collaboration among.

G

The three is there: is there it's some common factors? That's that's bringing you together other than the traffic. It's all because I know other schools in your.

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Area probably are facing again. I think it is a common challenge across tdm to.

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The cbsb schools, but I would also say that, for the three of us were in a.

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Similar demographic and communities that are just really on the other side, where.

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Each side of birch mount it's just south of steel, so we're physically close and.

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There's a lot of opportunity for collaborations of schools within a.

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Common community, we also feed the thin collegiate, and we work very closely with.

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The teachers and the principal at at bethune collegiate so many of the.

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Problems that we've identified we all share and we work together on the.

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Solutions, whether it's over breakfast or lunch or telephone, so a number of.

G

Solutions are mentioned in your in your list of items, and some of them are.

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Enforcement, some of them are education, and some of them are deterrents and some.

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Our design- and we were- we- are particularly talking about design today,.

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With respect to speed bumps- and I know, enforcement is very limited so how.

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Important is changes to the design to address this issue. In addition to.

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Education, so, and so so, speed hum sessile speed bumps as one of the options a.

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Great question: I believe that it would be again. I recognize that speed, humps.

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Are not endorsed through different agencies. We have the support us in.

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Toronto, however, I think each individual case needs to be looked at very.

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Carefully and decisions made on an individual basis and and some specific.

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Examples were given by other deputies. I think that the key is we need to make.

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Sure that we that schools have done everything they can and we continue to.

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Examine it at this very moment, I'm supposed to be attending a meeting with.

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Our public health nurse to look at further educational pieces between our.

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Staff and our safety, patrollers and parents to continue growing our.

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Education piece, but there's not much else we can do at the school level as.

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Far as we can tell, and so really we are turning to the city for their support.

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For any traffic calming measures that will support safety in our streets, I.

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Would just like to share that our stop sign that mr. cree gianna, our councilor.

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Cree janus advocated for was put in three days before march break and it was.

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A nightmare frankly, it was just a nightmare because many of our parents do.

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Not read english and are in a hurry. We had huge concerns over those couple of.

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Days, teachers were outside, there were 15 or 20 and and counsel of crete. Janus is.

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Going to be sending home some information to his ward and there's a.

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Picture of most of my staff on the sidewalk.

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Ensuring the children were going to be able to get through this melee of cars.

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That was under the stop sign and it was just frightening.

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So they made handmade, stop signs and more jackets outside and were all at the.

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Side of the road the police came on the friday and the police came for two weeks.

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After march break both in the morning, 8:30 ish till quarter to 9:00 and again.

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A quarter after 3:00 and the officer came in at the end of a couple of days.

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And said karen, I have just talked to the same parent for the third day in a row.

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And finally gave him a ticket for speeding, and I guess this is why I.

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Shared with my colleagues, if we can just get people to slow down enough with.

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Speed humps that maybe we've got a chance out here to make the streets.

Q

Safer, my last questions are on the school's capacity. Many of you all three.

G

Of you mentioned that you're close to capacity also, how is this split? I know.

G

Primary sections require utmost support. Are you more heavy on the primary.

G

Section than the junior section in terms of grade kindergarten numbers right.

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We're very even so hundred twenty-five kindergarten is 125 primary. A hundred in.

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Junior and a hundred and intermediate, thank you: okay, how's her do her maker.

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Actually story current kills our heart and then devera maker. That's just just a.

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Quick question: I'm in favor I've have the same issues that counselor care.

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Gianna says: I'm sure we all have similar issues and we all deal with our local.

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Principals and schools, I'm in favor, of what counselor cara janice, has put.

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Forward now I'll be supporting it, but it won't solve the problem. The real problem.

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Is people driving kids to school? I was never driven to school. My kids were.

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Never driven to school. Why is this happening and what are you doing about.

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It to reduce the volume of people driving their children to school and.

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What more can we do in that regard? Okay, I'll? We dress that we can put in.

E

Speed humps till kingdom come and we'll never solve this problem. Okay, at my.

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School I've got a ymca and I'm one of the few in our family of schools that has a ymca. So a hundred parents or a hundred.

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Children are there, so parents need to drop these children off and we're.

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Talking two and three year old children. So it's it's a lot more convenient to.

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Come around the circle or park close to the school, to bring your child in.

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Especially on a busy morning when you're bringing them and going off to work, so I.

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Know at my school that certainly is contributing to our problem. I'll just.

R

Add a little bit that's happening at our school as well. We do do incentive.

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Programs with their students, we we call it walk to school, they could be walked.

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To school mondays, walk to school tuesdays and they get incentives for the.

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Class that has the most kids that actually walked to school on those days.

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And so they actually go home and ask their parents if they can walk to school.

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Instead of getting driven you're, absolutely right that this, as I said.

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Before they were designed as walking schools, but nobody walks, so that is that.

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Is a huge problem, but it's also a very difficult problem to tackle. We do it.

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Through regular newsletters through regular parent meetings, regular.

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Educational programs: it continues to be a problem.

B

And councillor to very maker great, thank you through you, madam chair.

H

And thank you all very much for coming in today.

H

I just want to because again I am very supportive of the initiative that.

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Councillor care janice is doing as well, but like councillor hart, I have some.

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Issues there, one of the principles, I think the last principle said I gave an.

H

Example of people parking on the wrong side of the road, letting children out of.

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The car and the children running across the street would you agree with me.

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That's an extremely dangerous thing to do.

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I would 1000% agree with you. Yes, it's a foolish thing to do correct and, and they.

R

We actually follow up with those parents, because when I see it, I take license.

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Plates and I follow up with those parents- and I follow up with their.

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Community police officer as well it's it's extremely dangerous. Most of our.

R

Parents will walk the children across, but occasionally you will see something.

R

Like that and when you see it it's too late, yes, and it's certainly, I because I.

H

Have the exact same things happening in my ward, I have twenty schools in my ward.

H

So I've seen the exact same thing, but that is, would you agree with me? Parents.

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Letting their own children out onto a road with moving traffic where their.

H

Children may get struck and killed. It happens. Yes, so that's! It is profoundly.

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Disturbing that the biggest risk to that child who got out of that car was their.

H

Own parent, yes, and but when we put it in perspective as well, ninety-nine point.

R

Eight percent of people do not do that. There are people that do and we follow.

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Up and it's it comes back to my vice-principal and I are basically we're.

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Out there running around on the roadway and we don't have powers of enforcement.

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On the roadway, but at the same time our parents do listen to us so the more we.

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Do that the better, but what what we're advocating for as well is is how can.

R

Actually enforcing these rules on the road, so anybody that does that, whether a.

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Parent of mine or not, I have no sympathy for what they've done.

H

Madam chair, and at one level, if we can collectively slow down the speed on the.

H

Streets in that area, even if a parent does something very, very foolish and.

H

Stupid if the cars were slowed down, we would hope we would hope that that child.

H

May not be killed and there wouldn't be a tragedy that, even if parents, parents.

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Do something very stupid: we can protect their children from their own parents.

H

That's one of our goals that we have to do if we can slow it down if we can slow.

R

Down the speed of the vehicles traveling in that area,.

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It it will greatly in raise the safety of the children. If I.

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Could add its and again, it is certainly our parents that we're addressing, but.

P

It's also residents and and and some of the infiltration traffic that we're also.

P

Looking at in the case of duncan shu, it was a resident who was not connected.

P

With the school who was driving the vehicle again, three, madam chair, I think.

H

Again, one of the principles mentioned that there was a police officer came.

H

Into her school and alice lee, the police officer may been frustrated and said.

H

I've talked to the same parent three days in a row and I've given them. I think a speeding ticket you mentioned so again. The person causing the risk to.

H

Children's life there wasn't the principal, wasn't the teachers? Wasn't the.

H

Police officer wasn't the children, the person who's most likely to kill.

H

Somebody in front of your school was that parent, who was speeding even after.

H

A police officer said please, for the sake of the children slow down, so at one.

H

Level we have to collectively somehow slow down traffic on your street because.

H

There are parents who are just doing foolish and irresponsible things. Would.

H

You agree with that that we somehow we have to slow down the traffic, because.

H

And again, I admire all the work that this I'm sure you're doing what my.

H

Principals and teachers are doing as well you're trying to protect those.

H

Children, but as hard as you try, there are parents, some parents and some people.

H

Cutting through the subdivision, who just will not slow down, they will not obey.

H

The rules they will continue to do foolish things even if you're standing.

H

There at the stop sign, they will still stop at the stop sign where they're not.

H

Supposed to okay, great and three, madam.

H

Chair- and I hope I don't know if you've seen the manual yet, but there is a.

H

Traffic calming manual that the city of toronto has published has some really.

H

Great ideas that I think councillor care janice's has probably read already and.

H

Is looking through that may help the school as well? Great sorry,.

B

Yeah after councillor kelly, yes, okay, so councillor kelly in one of your answers.

D

I think speed was identified as the major threat to the students and yet.

D

When I think about the when I think about the various deaths that have been.

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Reported, not all of them have been associated with speed and I wonder, has.

D

There been a an analysis of of the unfortunate act, a deaths and accidents.

D

That have occurred over the last say decade so that we can identify.

D

Accurately, what the challenges are: are they in fact, most of them as a result of.

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Speed or but is there up? Is there an.

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Analysis of them, because we all we all face this, this challenge every one of us.

D

Do you think the test you think the the the both the catholic and the public.

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Boards should do an analysis of of the danger.

D

I'm just I just like to know. I suspect that the the major challenge isn't speed.

D

So much as it is volume and congestion. What that and those latter to lead to.

D

Inappropriate behavior by parents I would say, driver behavior is always an.

R

Issue, I would say also say if, if the driver, if the speed is slowed down,.

R

Significantly, it will add to the safety of the children, for a variety of reasons.

R

That, for instance, three-point turns on the roadway. What will happen in that.

R

Situation is the cars behind get frustrated and then pull out and around.

R

So driver behavior, I agree with you. Driver behavior, is certainly an issue.

R

But if we slow everything down, then everything slows down, including the.

R

Potential to keep our kids safe, thank you, and so second round councillor.

B

Gianna's, just a very quick question to mr. malvern. Your school were in the.

J

Process right now of expanding it and and looking at calming measures and.

J

Putting everybody parking all the only printout parents parking on school on.

J

School grounds and thank you for coming today until that is done, would you be.

J

You and your community be advocating for school for speed humps in familiar.

J

School, this is something that I mean. This is like in your instruction and.

J

Everything else could be a year two years out. Do you think that calming.

J

Traffic calming measures is something that you would want in front of your.

J

School in your community want as the school in the school community. I've.

R

Talked to my parents, but I've talked to parents within the school, absolutely.

R

Anything that we can, anyway, we can slow down the speed of the traffic. We do have.

R

Other issues, as I mentioned at the beginning and that's it's a regular.

R

Route for ttc as well, it's a very highly traveled area. I'm not sure what the.

R

Response of the local neighbor neighborhood would be.

R

However, I know that they would be in support of anything that would keep the.

R

Traffic moving and keep it moving at a slower pace, but at a reasonable pace.

B

I'll just ask a really quick one as well, and thanks so much for coming. I mean, as.

B

Noted so every single one of us have has the exact same issue at every single.

B

School we've had, I mean I'm sure every council has had a comprehensive.

B

Assessment around each school, I've done multiple assessments where we bring in.

B

All the marco known ins here, our traffic engineers and and everyone in sort of do.

B

A comprehensive review to find out how to solve these problems, which are on it.

B

Almost unsolvable, in the sense that it's really human behavior, because that's.

B

What we're really addressing and the the problem with schools is that you're.

B

Constantly having new new new parents to educate on their on their behavior, so I.

B

Hear about that a lot, so I would. I would just ask the same question. I think that.

B

Councilor, kelly rhodes and and even cancer care janice was saying I think.

B

That this is one solution, but have you have you had any studies done of.

B

But in terms of the stats on the fatalities like has the police come in and and done a comprehensive, I think it's more of.

B

What councilor kelly was saying we have, they has the the police come in and done.

B

A comprehensive reviews of review of schools and scarborough or schools in.

B

Toronto to assess what how these fatalities, what they're exactly result.

B

Of because I'm very curious to know whether it's a speeding, infiltration.

B

Issue which, which is the case for some schools- I have some schools that are in.

B

Main arterials again built form back in the 50s whenever they were built.

B

The the mode, the mode of people walking or the transportations different, so I'm.

B

Just wondering if we, if the tdsb or teach cbsb has done any done any.

B

Analysis on that that you're, aware of maybe not okay, I was just curious to.

B

Know if there are any reports, but it would be something that we should initiate, but but anyway, the last question that I have is you were you do.

B

Do you send home material with the we sort of do blitzes at the beginning of.

B

Each school year is: do you do that as well yeah on a consistent basis,.

B

And as the officer spoke to you and said, I've had this parent, who just has three days in a row.

B

So until do you find that the tickets are helpful, not not it not a deterrent. I.

P

Actually had a parent concerned: last week we had a wonderful enforcement for.

P

Two solid weeks following the march break and a parent very upset. They.

P

Received two tickets for the same offense and I tried to explain to the.

P

Parent that you know what you were doing is illegal parent was still not pleased. I don't know if the behavior has changed right.

B

So it's really behavior is what I always when I I'm always asked. I'm just a.

B

Four-Speed for speed, humps everywhere, all over my roads, all over the roads in.

B

Ward, 35, and- and so I always the the issue that we're you know obviously,.

B

Faced with is there's always a percentage of people that are just.

B

Horrible drivers that really shouldn't have a license at all, but so would you.

B

Find that it's human behavior, whether they're, speeding, whether it's these.

B

Three-Point turns whatever the issue is: it's it's. It seems to be some people.

B

Have this certain type of behavior and do you have any recommendations to.

B

Combat that human behaviors is a big part of it. I also would say you asked a.

R

Question a minute ago, whether enforcement makes a difference, and I.

R

Believe it does, and particularly around my school, my school is, is a bigger.

R

Roadway more have heavily traveled and at a quicker pace quite often so.

R

Essentially, it behavior is always a key factor, but I think we keep coming back.

R

To if we can slow things down, we can better able to ensure their safety. Okay,.

B

Great, thank you so much for coming. I appreciate that and so moving on, we have.

B

Simon tien who's co-chair of kennedy public school, mr. tan. Thank you so much.

N

Menem a madam chair and councillors, I'm my name is simon tien, I'm the one of the.

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Co-Chairs of school council of canada, public school, my daughter goes to.

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Kennedy, public school and we're all heartbroken by the tragedy, tragedy and.

N

It was particularly hard for my daughter, because young c'n was a victim when she.

N

It was the classmates of hers, our neighborhood is steps away from the.

N

Intersection of kennedy road and steals avenue east the same intersection. I read.

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Online that in a 2013 report published by yahoo autos, they ranked 13th in the.

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Top twenty spots in the list of canada's most dangerous intersection for motor.

N

Vehicle accidents and whenever there's an accident happens at a kennedy, road.

N

And a steeles avenue east intersection canongate rail, that the center road.

N

We're talking about in our neighborhood serves as a defector detour for the.

N

Northbound traffic on kennedy, road and the eastbound traffic on the steeles.

N

Avenue, east and while the accidents do being investigated by the police, I do.

N

Believe speed plays a key role with many with more than 500 students. I just heard.

N

From the principal actually more than 600, students in canada, public school.

N

Alone and what so much through traffic and vehicle speed has always been our.

N

Main concerns, hence we petitioned the city to install.

N

The speed humps to reduce the traffic speed, I do understand the speed humps.

N

Alone, it's not going to solve all the problems. It is up to the every driver to.

N

Obey the rules, and also it's the safety education for the parents and for the.

N

Kids, I think every one of them is important and every one of them should.

N

Be addressed, and I think that one of them is a speed and speed. Humps helps.

N

And that's the one we want to be addressed and this petition wouldn't be.

N

Possible without miss catherine chen, she she and a group of volunteers most are.

N

Our parents of canadian school they collected three three hundred and the.

N

Three signatures of the residents in our streets that are potentially affected by.

N

The speed bumps and that's more than 75 percent of the residents who are living.

N

In our community and the numbers alone tells us that the concern of the.

N

Community and the support for the speed, humps and appreciated opportunities to.

N

Speak to you, thank you, thank you, and is there any questions of the deputed? No.

B

But seeing men yeah councillor dubrow maker, thank you.

H

Through you, madam chair, and thank you very much for coming in today, and I share your thoughts in terms of the tragic loss and the tragic accident.

H

That's happened and I'm wondering you've talked about speed bumps on canongate.

H

Trail, a cunning gateway, yes, yeah, and would you recommend that the.

H

Speed humps be on the in all the way around.

N

I would suggest these a between the kevin grove street and personal personal.

N

Street so basically that de-facto passages that I said because most of the.

N

Traffic going, I find more and more traffic going through this to bypass an.

N

Intersection of kennedy, road and the steeles avenue east right and three.

H

Madam sure, I think would you agree with me that, because I've noticed that my.

H

Area now that we all have gps, that maybe people before wouldn't know how to cut.

H

Through your subdivision, but because we all have computers on our windshields.

H

Anybody now who wants to avoid the main intersection of steel's and kennedy for.

H

Example will cut through your subdivision because it's faster for them.

N

Yeah, yes allows them to sneak, I think so, because the gps, mostly based on the user.

N

Setup with mostly based speed, set up as a time so when, if they travel along, say.

N

Steeles avenue east eastbound and I want to turn to southbound over kennedy road.

N

They will find it is as fast or go through the our neighborhood instead of.

N

The main intersection, where could be a traffic jam, so that's one of the reasons.

N

That we see more and more traffic right now and probably I'll call it 15 years.

H

Ago before anybody else had dash cams and gps, fewer people would cut through.

H

Your subdivision, because they would be afraid of getting lost.

H

There's a lot of dead-end streets in your area or I'll call them crescents.

H

But now with the computers, they allow me, for example, because I don't know your.

H

Area that well, but I could cut through your subdivision.

H

Today, because I have a computer that that gives me directions on how to cut.

H

Through your subdivision, well, I wonder person agree, and so these speed bumps.

N

Plays into this scenario, where once speed bumps slows down the traffic on.

N

The individuals gps- they will see that it takes longer to get through this.

N

Neighborhood and they would probably choose, go through the main main road.

H

Okay, great, thank you, madam chair. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, and up next is.

B

Herbert gu and co-chair of kennedy public school good morning, madam chair.

N

And councillors, my name is hubert gu and I'm the co-chair of the school council.

N

From kennedy public school, I would like to thank you all for listening to our.

N

Petition today or installing the speed hubs near our school so further to.

N

Simon's statement and we have over 600 students in the school age, ranging from.

N

4 to 14 that's a lot of kids going to school every day in the morning and.

N

Going home in the afternoon, duncan's tragedy occurred right on.

N

Kincaid trail when he was walking back home, and we certainly cannot afford.

N

Another kids to get hurt or killed. I agree with some of your opinion that.

N

Some of the parents do need to be educated further to improve their.

N

Driving behavior and including some drivers or residents around, but also we.

N

Have many parents have very good behavior walking their kids to school.

N

And even if they drive, they drive in the same manner and javac kids in a safe.

N

Manner and also we have being doing that, including having.

N

Seminars at school for the parents to educate about driving, behavior and.

N

Safety, including inviting police officers to come over to deliver the.

N

Speech and also many parents activity sharing the safety information to other.

N

Parents, when we see as parents, are not doing the right thing when the parents.

N

That would know would actually walk up to them and share the information and.

N

The back to the petition that spy hums one of the most effective way to slow.

N

Down the traffic and coming down the the traffic- and we certainly want to have.

N

Them to improve the safety in our neighborhood, so we're here with the.

N

School and many parents here and when we talk to the neighborhood.

N

We got strong support on this proposal to install this becomes. We also reach.

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Out to the communities that to get their support and sign up for the petition. As.

N

Simon and kathryn, who will speak in a minute and many other parents and.

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Including myself walk door to door to correct the support. We experience how.

N

Well, the residents support this proposal and many of them sign up to say yes,.

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Within seconds after listening and understanding, the proposal.

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And to say that it's not just the parents here asking for the proposal for.

N

For our kids, but also the residents, including the he would repay her.

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Association, they are residents the kiss my half-brother I did, but they still.

N

Still live in this neighborhood and they still support to install this behind so.

N

The petition is to install speed humps on canongate trail from purcell square.

N

#Name? circle section and also on the entire.

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South side of em field crescent, the mv crescent, is right, adjacent to the school.

N

And the canongate trail under sections pass by the school and also going.

N

Through further into the neighborhood and we're able to collect over 70 plus.

N

75 percent of agreement from the local residents, so, to conclude, the console is.

N

On behalf of all the parents and kids, many of as I hear today, we would like to.

N

Ask for your support and approval on this petition the speed hums. My only.

N

Slow down, okay, somebody could ask you a question sure. Thank you, sir, for coming.

J

Really appreciate your insight. Is there something else that you have left out that you would like to conclude with just a very quick sentence to conclude.

N

This becomes my throw down a car for only one or a few seconds, but that.

N

Couple seconds might have save a life, that's what we are asking here for today.

N

Thank you very much for your consideration. Thank you and any other.

B

Questions of the deputy 10c man. Thank you so much mr. gu and next up. We have.

B

Samuel coe samuel coe is the co-chair of the david lewis, public school parent.

B

M

Thank you, madam chair. In all councillors, my name is sam. This is my second year of.

M

The co-chair of the table- lewis, pairing council committee and I live in that.

M

Area for more than 15 years and my girl and my daughter and have a son, they all.

M

Will been there for more than 10 years, they start from jk right now. My daughter.

M

Is in high school 10 years in that school and also, I still have a son that.

M

And great 7 in there, so I'm in that area for a long long time in their area for.

M

20 years, because I'm just move around from their area in that few years- and I.

M

Remember in the christmas last christmas time around three months ago, our parents.

M

Starting a petition and give it to a dear city, councillor jim carey, honest.

M

And to ask for the safety device for our school for the road safety and we.

M

Parents are just a few of them across what those flashing yellow lights. Those.

M

Kinds of things or a stop sign or a speed bump, and we have a meeting with.

M

The trustee wong and councillor kerry janice, I think two or three times on.

M

Meeting and finally because the crosswalk cost so much money, that's what.

M

I heard from the meeting and the speed bump is some other problem too, and I.

M

Think there's a stop sign. Finally, and that happens three week. Four.

M

Weeks ago, zazz around march break before much break there, and that way it helps a.

M

Lot helps a lot, but for the first few days.

M

And a stop and a stop sign in store all the cars is not used to it. That's normal.

M

Everybody is used to go through that street without stopping and it's a chaos.

M

But after this few weeks, these two weeks and because I got a part-time job, I were.

M

Crossing every day in there in the morning and.

M

The afternoon and just I'm a volunteer and don't think I pay and to direct.

M

Their cart and start to help the kids to cross the road and they get used to it.

M

Now- and it is getting a little bit better but better improving these two.

M

Days, I'm not wearing this. This highlight jacket today and look at them and still.

M

Two or three cars is still not stopped on a stop sign, and even even though, and.

M

Also, all some of the cars are still like a racing track in that enough on ebay in.

M

Front of the school and I think, they're driving around 60 70 kilometres and.

M

Still there, when it go to the stop sign, they try to stop a little bit and go.

M

Goof and and then go for it, so the speed bump. I think it helps quite a lot, but.

M

When, last two weeks, two weeks ago, I saw the last minute okay anyway, so I saw the.

M

Scarborough mira, okay, except as a person article okay, he said some council is.

M

Against assess people met the other thing and that's true because of them I.

M

Caused another problem: there will be some ambulance and fire some fire trucks.

M

That may cause them to delayed a little bit to delay them to save a life or so.

M

But I lived there almost 20 years and a thing. I've heard that I saw an ambulance.

M

Of five truck passing by layer three times in 20 years and saw them hear the.

M

Sirens were that for a thing, but it's do a life is save a life for sure, but thing.

M

About that, I think we caught three. We used to have three schools in our street.

M

In the fanny bay, but now it's to school, one catholic school is just it's closed.

M

Down for few years- and we have a bathroom- we have a thousand student there, we have a 500 in our, they will lewis plus another hundred for.

M

That they care as a almost 2,000 students in that area, so those lives are.

M

Very precious, so it is a thing, is very important to rethink about of that and.

M

Every day is a life everyday life, especially kids, especially our children,.

B

Great, thank you, mr. koh, and so if we have any questions from cancer care yet.

J

Mr. coyer, I understand you have a petition that parents have signed requesting speed bumps. Yes, we have do you have sir well we've never 100.

M

Because we're the last petition we have already more than hundred and something.

M

And mmm no, I can get more because we're still working, mmm which is working also.

M

For that scarborough mirror thing, and I got an.

M

Example, for example, there's a new develop area, for example, developer city.

M

They have a thousand, I mean a hundred thousand people just move in there and.

M

They want, they want a bank to be there and people say: oh, the bank will get eve.

M

But care a robbery or something like that forget about a bank. Don't get a bang, so the people in there is they don't have.

M

Bank, so it is obviously is a it's not right. It's not a prevent prevention of.

M

Whatever to stop whatever they haven't happened, and also, we have a famous.

M

Chinese common saying in a slang just got this car junkie. Opti base are chong.

M

Let me translate a little bit. That means chop your feet to a boy.

M

Sandbox, you don't see the boxer getting your tour meeting at. Oh then you cut.

M

Your toes, instead of do that, do the right thing then, to get rid of the carry.

M

Out of the box, so that is the thing forever I want to share with with you.

M

And also one more thing, I think, mr curry janice already a cancer already proved.

M

Skateboard park and nupoc run in three months later and this summer right so.

M

This is very important to get the traffic to to slow down a little bit.

M

Because at that time, for sure there will be more traffic and more people will be.

M

Attracted to that area in the funny bay area for sure so I hope you can.

M

Reconsider this situation to do the speed bump for our area and also, if you.

M

Are in school, have this miss beep um I rather to have the kennedy public school.

M

Why I were there a few times after this strategy to happen, tragedy and didn't.

M

Happen because they really needs it. Yes, the role is far. I saw lots of.

M

Casters 60-70 the kilometer everyday, rushing there and no stop sign some of.

M

Them and thank you: okay, okay, cancer cures, yeah, so thank you. So much are.

B

There any other questions you know scene, then. Thank you so much. We.

B

Have one more deput, int catherine chan, and if there are any other deputies that.

B

Want to speak to the site and please let the clerk know now. Thank you.

B

Miss chan, thank you hi. My name is catherine kim I'm, but a panel of canada.

K

Public school and also main organizer for this time, daughter thought something.

K

I'm doing original sign for here is higher already 75% over and also doesn't.

K

Include email to the gym, all our support rate is over the 75, but if everybody.

K

Still remember: duncan's acid it on the day I driving a car bath. My daughter.

K

Skating class, I heard about the radio stay, the boy care by car on pastel and.

K

Can okay my hard thing time and wondering if my son got her too so when.

K

I come back my daughter running out car and open the door. She smiled to me mom.

K

My brothers, their life, I feel about that. I lost and I can recover it and as every.

K

Parent, we cannot afford it, we lose our children.

K

That's why I decided or do talk to crack all of the immature. I asked him jim.

K

We need a petition to install this big bomb. Okay, a lot of people tell me the.

K

Ten-Year before story, okay, we're not locking a door.

K

They stayed okay, they do treat hi before me. You got never gonna be sustained and.

K

I believe speed banker redo the traffic and a ten-year before there's only.

K

Normal one waco cone, understeer avenue, but right now the week who loading over.

K

The street the cutting a shocker in a can. Okay, I don't know we cannot see the schools, I only press there had a school site. So if.

K

They go on a cabin garlic among able to see the school site, so they probably.

K

Gonna speak very fast and they stick in one spit. Bone will bring the safe for.

K

Our panel ten years before the tiny tea party school is the not so popular right.

K

Now acting damage ezrin attracting more and more palin to run a basement sharing.

K

A house use friend, house, address least any students to school every morning. Our.

K

Crowd weaker party southside and the fake reza, because they are far away from.

K

School may had to try and some other parent is rushed to go to a job. So we.

K

Need people derwin? Thus people can force all speech drivers through them on a day.

K

And locked in at all, I went through the stammering in resident in new forest and.

K

After, like 30 minutes, you already refused me, he gave me a lot of reason.

K

And I saw the guy okay, he tried in a week, or at least 65 speak.

K

From a real forest square to kennedy and for all speech driver, we needs people so.

K

For all the mother father, we cannot or furloughs our child. We.

K

Don't wanna see, we still are our children in the morning and none on the.

K

Camp at in at noon, and also I do some research and a spitball. It's very.

K

Efficient way to read, you are speak, it's actually placed every third 300 to 600.

K

Feet on a local road, the highest is between the 3 to 4 inch and study.

K

Indicate it would delay okay, that we could speak everywhere between 4 to 23.

K

Mile per hour- and it gonna be delay for sure for senior, they are very worried.

K

About it, when I thought would only say, okay and I'm not gonna, come in how about.

K

A fire truck am, I gonna have break so what's gonna happen, studies showing up.

K

To tree to fight the game per ham, pro fire truck up to 10 second program for.

K

Ambulance siren attention, so if you go in a cattle game, probably only pass twos.

K

People 20 second delay if that fire child okay, it gonna, be sticks, thicken,.

K

For a fire tribe will only pass to her okay for amber and carry the patient is.

K

Not with if empathy it not going to be tense together, so for my concern, our.

K

Panel, I know, is a lot of chinese leave this area. That's what we know to know.

K

Days, don't speak english and we also have the logical scan amis.

K

And a food, your digest, we had a lot of parents go with me, doorbell all this to.

K

Wait even like raining calling we go day and night. We correct 75 percent support.

K

So we need hours, people in our area. We need our children safe to back home.

K

Thank you. Thank you so much so right now I have to move a motion to.

B

Extend and and also I'll be moving emotion, just for a five minute recess.

B

Just just to alleviate some staff, there grab some water and then resume and then.

B

Continue until we're finished the agenda because after this item there's very.

B

Quick items, okay, so we'll be moving that motion yeah.

A

We're gonna finish everything I know. I can't, because the staff need to.

B

Do some stuff? Okay! So thank you very much. Mr. smith, chan.

B

And so we're moving the motion so at 12:25 p.m. that scarborough community.

B

Council extend the meeting past 12:30 p.m. lunch recess in order to complete.

B

Consideration of the meeting of the remaining items, so all those in favor.

B

Opposed and that carry so there's just a five minute recess and then we'll resume.

B

And continue this item. I'm sure point of clarification for the.

J

Folks that are here, we were breaking for five minutes and then we're coming back.

J

With this particular item, exactly thank you. Yes, thank you.

A

Good afternoon, everyone I'm just going to call this meeting back to order.

B

Just those two it's freezing, I can't take it, I'm so cold.

B

No, I went to the wash, it was called the person that was speaking before I get.

J

Questions for her, so the last speaker was catherine chan, so catherine chan.

B

Could come back, there's a few questions for a catherine chan and then after that,.

B

We have sara clemente clement haga. I hope I said it right. Clement haga.

B

Thank you and then sasha zhou after that, and that will conclude all of the.

B

Speakers on this item miss chan. Thank you. So much.

B

And thank you, everybody for your patience, I'm taking a break and we're.

B

Resuming and questions of miss chan, councillor care, janice, mr. chen thank.

J

You very much and really appreciate all the the work and the effort that you put.

J

In yourself and volunteers and everybody else that was out there collecting.

J

Signatures how many signatures did you collect all together? Okay, on this.

K

Seventh street, a total, happy 415 house and fifteen house is empathy amphetamine.

K

A sum is for sale, nobody live in there and some my house, no one there. It is.

K

Full of garbage amir jan maan karate tours there crush that we all counting.

K

On empathy, so the f without empty house, we told you have 400 house, so we already.

K

Get 303 in my phone and also she also includes somebody today.

K

She one only email to you, so our percentages should be higher.

K

Yeah yeah so for now on my decoration already 75 point: 75 percent. Okay, it's.

K

Almost 76, thank you very much. I really appreciate all the work you're done now.

J

Another cut another question that I have for you is the pathway at the back is.

J

Temporary closed until we're able to find out what we're gonna do with it.

J

Have you heard of any parents complaining about us closing the pathway.

J

Until we find speed bumps or whatever it is that we need to slow the traffic down.

K

Yes, when I go to door-to-door son, no senior say: okay, my house is not good if.

K

I'm gonna have rake, that's people aren't gonna be postponed, maybe.

K

Ambolyn not coming because it's people, that's what I do some research. It.

K

Doesn't say this people aren't gonna step in ambolyn coming through your.

K

Labor is only showing is slowed down and the slowdown is only slowed down there.

K

For 10 second prepare for ambulance carrying a patient and the only three to.

K

Fry it again per pound for a fire truck, so it doesn't mean if you have people an.

K

Ambering, a fire ah doesn't run to your labor, so that now right. Thank you.

B

Appreciate it any other questions, mr. young, thank you.

B

Very much thank you and sara. Thank you very much. You have five minutes as well.

Q

Thanks yeah, sara klieman, haga and I'll just hopefully take up one minute. I live.

Q

At st. clair and bathurst- but I came here today to support the councillors.

Q

Motion and to support the parents and residents who want speed humps in this.

Q

Area I have to chill. I have three children, two of whom walk to my local.

Q

School humid community school and our parents are just as upset just as.

Q

Worried just as concerned about the speed of traffic also have taken similar.

Q

Measures to educate parents to educate kids, I drill into my kids every day.

Q

About being careful, these approaches don't work, I mean I shouldn't say that.

Q

They're not they're a small part of the solution.

Q

Another thing is effective unless we make our streets safe for children. I.

Q

Understand and recognize the councillors debris are makers, concerns about fire.

Q

Trucks and possibility of people speeding up in between speed humps, but.

Q

As of today, we don't have a better solution, we don't have another option so.

Q

I am sure that if fire and police were here, they would not be telling these.

Q

Parents that they don't want traffic slower. So if we want another solution by.

Q

All means bring forward another solution that will slow down traffic, but for now.

Q

Speed humps will slow the traffic down, which means our children will be safer.

Q

Nothing else is going to work. Thank you and questions councillor jls. Thank you.

J

For coming, we really appreciate all the support that you're here to do that for.

J

For the the parents and the community, are you aware that there is a motion.

J

That was placed at the community. I saw at city hall asking for us to to make.

J

The the timeline for for traffic calming measures to to make it shorter are you.

J

Aware of that, to streamline the process right now, the process, I'm not sure if.

J

It's 8:10 or whatever steps, but he can take anywhere between eight to ten.

J

Months, I've been advised and told, but there is a emotion right now in that the.

J

Council are you aware of this? I am aware of that. I'm very supportive. I think we.

Q

Need to streamline it a thousand times. I think that it's wonderful, that we've.

Q

Gathered all these petitions, if you gather petitions in a neighborhood.

Q

Before someone dies, you may not have as good of a response, and so we don't. We.

Q

Can't wait until it happens that we get high high support on these things. We.

Q

Don't we shouldn't have to fight for safe streets, so streamlining the process.

Q

Is an important step to take. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you and sasha zhou. So.

B

Thank you. Everyone, and I am a parent of two students debbie louise and.

S

I am here destined to say that we needed us be bounced, and it's true that the.

S

Drivers, behavior and the parents need to educate, and that you take takes time and.

S

Mm after that tragedy over canyon school- and we can see, stop sign is installed.

S

There immediately, we can't be fast and the first way I came here and we know.

S

It's a comparative china, and here we do things- are really slow comparatively, but.

S

After the tragedy we can see, we can do it or fast, but we don't want to lose.

S

Lives to do this and you take time to educate, because people get the behavior.

S

They get the habit and we can see from the stop sign and the first two days.

S

It's a nightmare, but gradually it's your mother.

S

It's much much better and at the speed a home, so we know the city that caused it.

S

You you have to study, you have to do the assessment, everything and it takes time.

S

Take every everybody's time and take you guys to discuss and then we, as parents,.

S

Before I came and some parents that they just say, oh you go, we we can't go. We.

S

Have to go to work and they would do everything and but they send their.

S

Support, we might didn't, we didn't collect as many petitions signatures as.

S

More as a candy, but we are still working on it because the not charities happen.

S

There yet so as parents, nobody want any accidents.

S

To happen and then we collect much more petitions to let apiece happen so just.

S

As a parent, and as so many of our parents from our school, they come here.

S

To support our principal, I know that I have been in the street for ten years.

S

And my kids, I have got a three kids went to the same school and at the same.

S

Principle- and I see daily, that the principal did everything she can to.

S

Ensure the safety and in the morning and there she was.

S

Instructing the drivers in the parking lot, she was walking around the sugu and.

S

She is doing everything that she can and I bet I and I heard that she has been.

S

Striving to make this happen, the speed humps in the school area in the family.

S

Bay and a long time ago, but it didn't happen, but now it's coming up because of.

S

The tragedy in kennedy, so this time it's not only canada, united harry fox only.

S

Davey lewis, so we wanted this joy to have. We have to make like the educators.

S

The drivers, any people, the parents, I defeated the keys and we do the speed.

S

Bumps to help too, we need to work together. Everything has to go together.

S

To you know, make our make our communities safer and also the the park.

S

Is doing some changes and the high school students are there and a new.

S

Students come and they take time to form the habit to be safe and to be.

S

Considerate about others and the kids and the seniors to my seniors in this.

S

Area to help walk the kids to school, and you know how be the working parents.

S

Because if they can't do that and so the subida humps for sure they will work and.

S

They help a lot and we don't want the tragedy happen in this area again. Thank.

S

You thank you, questions, yes, ma'am. Just for the record, I want to thank you for.

J

Coming out today and be part of the delegation, how many children do you have.

S

I have three and they attend what school baby louise. What ages are they.

J

Yeah, like I know, but I'm just asking for the record already oh it'll, be left. I.

S

Had got two more in the school wayne he's a great for wayne he's a great.

J

And you'd want him, see them come home, safe every night and you want to tuck.

J

Them before I go to work, I wanted my so like a like somebody said about the.

S

Emergence of vehicles, how often they come on the street, but my kids, our kids.

S

They cross the street at least twice a day to go to school and a place that.

S

They will go to the parents right, your kids come home for lunch. No, I all right.

J

So it's twice a day for you: they may walk to school, cuz you're, very close. Yes,.

S

I would rather walk yes and also the city pumps, some people, some drivers, they.

S

Might not be the parents, they do the shortcuts to camera here. But if we do.

S

The speed bumps they can't divert to roar than mechanical it became so I.

S

Roundabout way, so it will ease the traffic on the family bay. I rounded the.

S

School, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, and so that concludes all the deputies.

B

And so now I'm gonna move on to questions of staff. Okay, I just have a.

B

Few questions then councillor ainsley, I just had a procedural one. First I was.

F

Trying to understand from the transfer, I understand the recommendations in the.

F

Report and I support all them- I'm just trying to understand in my area when you.

F

Try to do something like this we're told we have to have a petition from the.

F

Resonance for like all of these, and do we have petitions that are done for all.

F

Of what we're looking at today through you, madam chair.

T

I'm looking at the the letter for item sc, 29.1 16.

T

Said it suggests reviewing a location, koenig a trail near kennedy, public.

T

School respect, the installation of speed, humps or speed limit change. So yes, I.

T

Have seen a petition from the counsellor of the community submitted for traffic.

T

Calming on canongate trail, the letter also talks to having speed humps.

T

Immediately in front of the school on this entire south side, enfield crescent.

T

I don't think I've seen a petition for that and then item number c in that.

T

Letter 1c indicates fund eba, boulevard and innocent in a salon road near david.

T

Lowe's public school, respected installation of speed, humps or spending.

T

Reduction night, I don't believe I've seen a petition for that either. Okay, so.

F

I'm just trying to understand, madam chair, that if we vote for these recommendations today- and we don't have the petitions, how how does staff proceed.

F

Or not proceed or I can ask the clerk's or if there are the petitions here then.

B

I believe they can be okay, so the clerk's have not received any petitions.

B

And I know, but the clerk's have not received it and neither has the.

B

Transportation through you, madam chair, yes, we've seen a.

T

Receipt of petition from the counselor's office for the candy public school issue.

T

And it seems to talk about canongate trail as being the street, that's being.

T

Petitioned now I also want to clarify that under the traffic calming policy, it.

T

Indicates that members of the public have to submit a 25% petition for.

T

Traffic calming study started, but councilors can also conduct a canvas as.

T

Well and or hold a public meeting and then, as a result of the public meeting,.

T

That traffic calming study can be commenced as well. Okay and so councillor.

B

Ainsley had further questions as to whether that has been done. I think that.

B

We're asking staff: that's a question, though,.

T

Remember it's unusual by, I imagine our current forum here. It could be.

T

Considered a public meeting and for the purposes of the traffic calming policy.

T

Okay, we can do that okay, so it seems that the.

B

Answer is that this could be considered, but we're gonna consider this a public.

F

Meeting in lieu of the petition for the speed, humps is what I mean here, not in.

B

Lieu of the petition, but in lute and lou of the canvassing is that correct. Mr.

B

Owen, all right, yes, the policy. It does indicate those three approaches.

T

Typically, we receive petitions from the public or our petitions from the.

T

Councilor, because a 25 partition percent petition suggests that there is a very.

T

Strong support for traffic calming for the initiative, which will help to assist.

T

A polling process to succeed, but in a public meeting, that's the third option.

T

That one might, if it's not a very wholesome public meeting, then perhaps.

T

The polling may not be as successful as might be hoped. Okay and sorry, I just.

F

Wanted to sorry yeah, I just want to understand how we're proceeding forward cuz myra. My residents have always been told when it comes to speed, humps or.

F

Trafficking calming that they have to get a petition and submitted and then.

F

There's another petition sent up from the city, so I just want to be clear how.

F

We're proceeding today if we're setting we're gonna, follow that process. Then.

F

We'll probably all follow that process, okay and and then the other question I.

F

Had sorry in terms of questioning, there's been a lot of discussion around.

F

Speed humps and I know currently there are none in scarborough on any.

F

Residential streets, to the best of my knowledge, okay and councillor, cara.

F

Genesis alright, so there's a couple of streets: I'm just trying to understand.

F

Because often when we talk with fire services, staff they'll say that they.

F

Really don't prefer speed, humps and then people always point to downtown toronto.

F

Or other areas of the city as a lot of these residents have I'm just trying to.

F

Understand the disconnect between the number of speed, humps downtown and the.

F

Very few and scarborough is that, because the damn toronto needs to our community.

F

Councils, just overriding staff concerns about speed humps. We do madam chair just.

T

Answer the first question: there are a few streets in scarborough that have speed humps that were approved in the last 10 or 15 years.

T

I think timber bank boulevard was the last one about 11 years ago and there's.

T

Fairfax in 435 and other streets, and certainly in the toronto and east york,.

T

District, there are many many more streets that have traffic calming.

T

Traffic calming it through speed, humps was a process that was sort of born in.

T

The former city of toronto as an initiative, and it continued on after.

T

Amalgamation in scarborough, it seems to have not have caught on so.

T

Much except in some of the older areas like in ward, 35, 36 and then timber bank.

T

In ward 40 and it's just a it's, a different environment, different streets.

T

Down there, potentially a political environments different and here there.

T

Were there just hasn't been as much interest potentially in having traffic.

T

Calming and in terms of the emergency services, I believe their standard.

T

Position would be that for any traffic calming street that they would impact.

T

Their response times, but that doesn't it's not a veto over the decision to.

T

Approve traffic calming including speed, humps, and so even with.

T

Those comments should traffic calming be warranted or not, if it's approved by the.

T

Community council, then it gets installed and then, with those impacts occurring to.

T

The emergency services- okay, thank you. Thank you, madam chair, thank you and next.

B

Is councillor kelly just want to make sure when we're talking about petitions.

D

It's petitions not of the neighbourhood but of the street itself, that's being a.

D

Potentially humped through you, madam chair, yes, the petition process and the.

T

Polling process that follows, after an approval of a traffic calming plan by a.

T

Community council is of the residents of the street itself. It's 25 percent of the.

D

Households to kick it off and what I want 50% of the households to confirm.

T

Yes, is that correct you man, sure the policy indicates that.

T

For staff to start a traffic calming study based on a public request, there.

T

Has to be 25 percent minimum petition of the street, or else we are not really.

T

Supposed to actually do any work and but then assuming that a petition has been.

T

Received or the other approaches have been used, then that study is done in its.

T

Traffic calming plan is reported to community council. Then, if it's approved.

T

By community council go to polling, then once it goes to polling the clerk's.

T

Conducts the polling and then I believe, it's a there- has to be a 50 percent.

T

Return rate on the polling, letters and of those yet to have a 50 percent.

T

Approval of the traffic calming initiative to 50 percent of the 50.

D

Percent but it would appear that councillor, kerry giannis has the.

D

Petition that that satisfies the first step, 25 personalized, it satisfies it for.

T

The canongate trail portion- okay, I haven't seen that I'd only through you.

T

Madam sure, the only petition I've seen so far is for canada to israel, but.

T

Should any other petitions be received and they're 25%, then that starts a study.

T

Process and I certainly when, if community council requests staff to.

T

Conduct a study, then we will certainly do that as well. So.

D

Between, if you, if you, if you have the first step, looked after between now and.

D

The july meeting june meeting that would give you time to implement step number.

D

Two would be to ask that the the residents of the street to confirm yeah.

D

So would you have time to do that to take step number two you, madam chair, I.

T

Personally, have concerns about the timing, and in that this is a request for.

T

A report which involves now we would have to go and do our studies and design.

T

The traffic calming plan and see what other studies we have that we can use to.

T

Feed the information normally the polling process occurs after this report.

T

Has been tabled and approved, you know I understand that there's been some.

T

Discussion with our senior staff about having a parallel process where the.

T

Polling occurs prior to the report coming back, but it's a challenge because.

T

We don't actually have a traffic calming plan to show people and polling requires.

T

That that traffic playing calming plan be included in the letter, so people know.

T

What they're voting on so two months is very tight for a compressed process. It.

D

Might be tight, but it might not be impossible. That's just a tag on comment.

B

Yeah, okay and to councilor hurt you had a good comment, a question just a.

E

Question of staff: it's really a comment, but a question of staff that I've.

E

Mentioned a couple of people: would it would it be helpful if the councillor in.

E

His request just added the words after review, subject to receipt of the.

E

Petitions that way, you would receive the petitions and then we as a group here we.

E

Would be directing you to do the review since you don't have them in your hand,.

E

And they're about to be in your hand, we could just add the word subject to.

E

Receive the petitions that would that would satisfy the councillors that are.

E

Worried about due process- and that would move this thing.

E

What are your comments through you, madam chair? Yes, it would be helpful to receive.

T

Petitions, because I would not only show the interest for everybody that there is.

T

Interested in the traffic calming process, but also it clarifies the extent.

T

That sometimes we get people, petitions that say every street in the area. That's.

T

Not really clear enough, it has to be what street and to what extent, and then.

T

Petition certainly help to clarify to the people signing the petition exactly.

T

What they are signing for and helps to clarify for us what we are to study? Okay,.

B

And cancer shan. Thank you, my chair. My first question is around stuff, so we.

G

Have what I'm understanding from you is me or multiple processes? One is resident.

G

Directed that will come through a petition of 25 percent of the households.

G

On that street that's being considered, and in the absence of that being there.

G

You still say that community council can direct that process in a format like.

G

This three, my new chair, I think what I'm saying is that the policy does not have.

T

Any language about community council direction about conducting studies it.

T

Talks about petitions or counselor surveys, canvasses or a public meeting.

T

And I think generally, if community council requests us to report back on.

T

Issues we are be holiness staffed in the public service to do our best to respond.

T

Back to community council to the requests, so in a situation like this.

G

Where there's been a tragedy, and also there's been lots of support from the.

G

Local educational community and then this council can technically direct in.

G

The presence or absence of petition to start the first phase of it because.

G

First part is to identify this appetite for it before use this study and then.

G

The second part is the confirmation of it right. So what we are proving today is.

G

Basically, to start the process three-man chair: yes, the fact that we.

T

Have petitions and we have a public meeting in with some direction, to staff.

T

To conduct a study, then we can. We have now enough material, at least for some.

T

Streets to conduct our review and then the report back.

T

Communication, so the other question I have is, I know there are a lot of times.

G

We come into situations here where you hear that downtown has it, but.

G

Scarborough doesn't in downtown has its cobb or doesn't, and here is an example.

G

That came up without commissioning another study is it? Is it feasible to.

G

Find out what the extent of of speed, bumps or speed humps here versus other.

G

Parts of it is there, is there data available, open.

G

That or something, but you don't have to spend three months to study. Is there a.

G

Way for us to receive some information to kind of show what the disparities.

G

Many of the times it becomes anecdotal people say I drove through it or I go to.

G

Work here, and so it but a lot of the time we don't have the data to show.

G

Really there is a disparity, I mean yeah. It seems like a disparity because money of the councillors don't have areas with speed humps, but just just to kind of see.

G

What what's happening and then, if, if we haven't approved, speed humps in the last.

G

11 years in scarborough, why does that compare to in in downtown, for example,.

G

Our last 11 years after amalgamation cased through um I'm sure we have a.

T

Section in the division called operational planning and policy and they.

T

Administer the traffic calming process and the inventory of speed humps that.

T

Are installed, and also they're the ones that arrange for the installation of speed, humps that are approved, and so in theory, that kind of information could be.

T

Gathered by that unit because they administer the whole city, every district.

T

Every community council, thank you and sorry one last question. So the the the.

G

Trend used to be that you take a stretch of street or or lane and do speed humps.

G

Throughout before now, the more and more the requests are coming from schools to.

G

Stay just do that part of the school itself just to two speed humps. This.

G

Island is that fairly common in other parts of the city like it is, it is.

G

Slightly different from a street that says you know, a lot of people are.

G

Driving through our street to get to the highway or something like that, we won't sweep them. Rather than this. The schools are asking not the entire stretch, but at.

G

Least two speed humps on each side will kind of come the traffic going through.

G

This stuff, through you, madam chair, the the traffic coming envisage, is that a.

T

Whole street be managed because it's the humps are designed so that if for.

T

As drivers to realize that this street has an environment, you have to drive.

T

Slower spot speed humps we find not to be effective because you can drive it.

T

Whatever speed you're comfortable at, if you know where the hump is and you slow down, get past the hump, and then you see where, as when you have a a street.

T

That's has speed humps all along it that helps to enforce the idea that the whole.

T

Speed has a lower speed limit and you motor shouldn't be speeding, because.

T

You're gonna have another hump and another hump and into the hump. So my.

T

Technical and professional opinion is that if you have spot speed humps at a.

T

Particular location such as a school or any other land use. It may not be very.

T

Effective because people will drive at whatever speed they feel comfortable.

T

Except at the school where they were, they may slow down, or they may not.

T

Modern day, vehicles are have very high performance specifications and they in.

T

Theory, if there's only one hump, they might just drive over it and just take the the hump. It's not speed. Humps are meant to be humps they're, not bumps, and.

T

They're also, the design of the hump is such that it tries to mitigate the.

T

City's risk of damaging vehicles and getting claims or people getting damaged.

T

By the hump, that's why their humps and if you only have one or two humps it.

T

Might not be very effective at all. It's our policy envisage that, though, a whole.

T

Section street, like our last string, was timber bank all of timber bank has to be.

T

Home very long and winding road, and that is to enforce the speed limit that speed.

T

Humps are designed for which is a posted speed of 30 kilometers per hour. So I.

T

Would say that if you had a spot speed hump at a particular land use, it might.

T

Not be very effective in terms of what you're trying to get out of it.

B

Thank you and cancer lee no cancer care janice. Thank you, madam chair, for you to.

J

Staff, how many studies have you done for the schools in my in my award? Is it one.

J

To half a dozen a dozen, how many of them have I requested through you, madam chair.

T

I would say that cancer care janice and his predecessor, councillor dale, grant.

T

Had asked I've asked for several studies and I think, shortly after the path last election, we did sort of a lot of traffic.

T

Volume counts in councilor penances war to see what were the speed limits. What.

T

Were the prevailing speeds in the area and that information was provided and.

T

But those weren't necessarily traffic calming studies. They were more like.

T

Speed volume studies to see what is the prevailing speed we've done. The study.

J

And I think that the with them on the map, on the right hand, side this is.

J

Something that we did for kennedy public school yesterday event sure the graphic.

T

On the screen, the larger map on the right is our map from our report from.

T

About a year ago, or so in the strategy, and you were involved, your staff was.

J

Involved and we thought that we had a good, a good scenario, but unfortunately,.

J

We didn't foresee what happened to lilly duncan true, you couldn't foresee it. I.

J

Couldn't foresee at the staff where anybody could foresee it will it be.

J

Correct in that, oh three, madam chair, I don't think any of us foresees tragedies.

T

Like fatalities or major collisions, and but in in terms of the report that was.

T

Considered last year and the proved out we had worked with councillor, kerry, tennis and the principal then principal at the time at the school to come up.

T

With this plan and there's a good plan, I remember yes, I know matter of fact. It.

J

Stood before the accident happened, we're gonna be sending out a newsletter out, saying it's fantastic and then pat ourselves in the back. Yes, and at that.

T

Time through you mention at that time, the principal had suggested that we.

T

Allow parking on the west side of kennedy trail for short term and pick up.

T

And drop off because that was a school side and in parents and children could.

T

Go walk north to the frontage at school or south to use that walkway. That's.

T

Currently, temporarily closed to access to school, but so that plan was deployed.

T

In this infield and unfortunately there was a tragic fatality, I mean you agree.

J

With from the mark with that, we as elected representatives have to listen to the to the public and then pretty well give staff.

J

Our request and that that's what we heard here today at these two schools.

J

Want calming measuring traffic's, I mean calming measuring device studies in.

J

Situations because they want to have the their kids in front of their school, they.

J

Want to slow down the traffic through manager, I do agree that certainly.

T

Traffic calming or any other major initiative is certainly something that it's community driven and certainly a petition process and a public meetings.

T

Such as this, with a lot of interest and deputations, is a a good way of gauging.

T

The community interest in a safety initiative- and it's certainly something that's in the democratic spirit that we live in, I'm sure I'll, just editorialize.

J

I just want to thank marco and and joseph and its predecessor for all the.

J

Work that they've done for the schools in my area, and I really thank them because they always stepped up whenever they were asked to do it. Thank you and.

B

Any other questions of staff, no seeing that I'm just gonna ask marco a few.

B

Quite a few questions just in terms of the so it in your if we well, I see there.

B

Were the petitions are before you, so you have them? What is the difference between.

B

So if a school does the petition versus the residents on the street, yes, madam.

T

Chair the difference is that the traffic calming policy wants to gauge the.

T

Interest of the whole street that's being affected by the traffic calming so.

T

Those are the residents who will have humps installed, potentially in front of.

T

Their homes, whether there are tenants or owners and whereas, if a school petitions.

T

For traffic calming it reflects the school community, and potentially parents.

T

Who live on that street may also be in the school bay from a policy perspective.

T

It might include a lot of parents who aren't actually not eligible to sign the.

T

Petition because an counts as part of the 25%, because they don't actually live.

T

On the street, even though they do use the street to get to the school okay and.

B

So would I guess, if it meet, if there's 25% within within that petition, that.

B

Live on the street, then that would meet the our policy guidelines.

B

Is that correct, yeah? That's right! Yes! So.

T

Madam chair, yes, their current guidelines envisage that 25% of the people would.

T

Have to sign a petition and they would have to for a school. They would potentially have to be parents at the school as well, and even though there is.

T

Some movement I understand internally, to update such.

T

Things in school zones through the school safety zone review and that's.

B

Part of the vision, zero initiative right and then so, just in looking at the letter from cancer care janice and I'm sure that he ran this by you before is.

B

It is it, was it your great great, so is it your proposal when I know when you're.

B

Saying you you would you would prefer a wider catchment area in terms of speed.

B

Bumps so not directly just in front of the school, but a longer a longer portion.

B

Of the street is that what you're, what you would review and what you would.

B

Propose, yes, our policy would envisage like, in the case of madam chair, in a.

T

Case of candy public school, if you're looking at, I don't feel dressed, and I.

T

Think you'd be more than just having humps along the south leg. It's.

T

Potentially, the whole crescent would should have homes, because it's just one.

T

Continuous block right so that would enforce any, and that would humps would.

T

Come with a 30 kilometer per hour, speed limit, so that would enforce that lower.

T

Speed limit and then canongate trail in the community public school area. It.

T

Would start around purcell, which is an always stop, and a logical endpoint for.

T

Such a zone and continue up or around the bend and the petition suggests.

T

Kelvingrove and I believe kelvin grove is a main north-south street accessing.

T

Steel's so that, actually to me it seems like a logical length of a route to have.

T

A traffic calming policy applied to okay, wonderful, thank you! So much and we have.

B

One more round with councillor kelly, you know I had thought prior to your.

D

Spawns to these questions that you could put a speed hump on both sides of the.

D

School property and that would do the job, but I now understand that it.

D

Wouldn't, but would you have to do the whole street or could you just hump the.

D

Frontage of the school a3 madam chair school, frontages from a distance.

T

Traveled by motorists perspective is relatively short, and it's really it's.

T

The length of time you have to drive at this desire speed limit that governs the.

T

Driver behavior, so in this case, let's, if we only put humps in front of candy.

T

Public school frontage they would be driving by and in five seconds, they're.

T

Passed to school and there's no more humps, so the rest of the street could be.

T

30 kilometers per hour, but then there's no more need to drive 30, because there's.

T

No humps to enforce it, so people may start drifting to drive faster or drive.

T

In the 40s, which is probably what it's in the school zone, where the that it's.

D

In the school zone that the kids are are situated and just to be clear, then again.

T

And school areas are larger than the school zone. The school frontage is a.

T

Short stretch, the school area, where you see the yellow fluorescent chartreuse.

T

Pentagon signs is much larger in this case. Candy gate trail and I don't feel.

T

Crescent ours is a school area, so I would think that the speed humps should.

T

Be contiguous with the larger school area to help enforce that slope if there.

T

Is to be a decision to have speed, humps and a lower speed that then the hump.

T

Should be in the school area and not just in front of the school yeah, that's.

B

A great question, thank you and any other questions. Then nope see none and so.

B

We'll go to speakers and council will go to councillor care janice first and then.

B

We'll go one-by-one, I think we have. Thank you, madam chair. Some of you made a.

J

Witness that I sort of had was teary eye when.

J

That, when I'm speaking, I've represented the area for close to thirty years, it.

J

Used to be that your kid goes to school of my kid, and now it is that your kid is.

J

Teaching my kid just before we had this fatal accident staff came up with some.

J

Recommendations we thought that were going well when to pat ourselves in the.

J

Back and then we had young duncan going to the street, he was killed just going.

J

To the funeral and listening to the mother.

J

Thank you listening to the mother when the child was being born crying. I don't.

J

Think that any parent or any one of us could fathom that this mother, that was.

J

Waiting for her second born canadian child for her second child, that was.

J

Going to be born in canada, they had just come over from china last summer. Would.

J

Have been going through this situation, we have, I have schools that are busting.

J

At the seams there, schools that are high iq aos. We listen that some of them are.

J

In the top 10 15 in the city, there's a lot of traffic.

J

I do have helicopter parents that drive their kids to school. Sometimes I help.

J

Staff and and and work with them outside to sort of educate the children.

J

Everybody gets a flyer in the beginning of the year, a school year telling them.

J

How to do to slow down emails, go back and forth school is schools are given.

J

Flyers and both in the the local spoken languages, chinese and english, telling.

J

The parents, what to do the amount of support that is here today the amount of.

J

People that turned up you know you have educators, you have.

J

You have parents matter of fact, I'd like to point out that we have a superintendent, louie pappas anisakis in our mist that used to teach used to.

J

Be the principal over at h of court, and we did before that in the morning had.

J

Men along the trustee here with us, so it tells you that the community.

J

Overwhelmingly is supporting this. This meeting I mean we had a woman that on.

J

The on the left hand map she went door to door and she collected.

J

Four hundred and thirty one signatures door-to-door, if that doesn't constitute.

J

The willingness of the people to want the speed humps, I don't know what does I.

J

Understand that you know there is opinions that we have and professional.

J

Opinions and all that stuff, but accidents do happen. The community wants.

J

A response- and they want the response now after that accident schools in had.

J

The police outside- and I understand that this was kicked off at the councilor.

J

Aames ainsley's area scarborough had six six schools that.

J

Were designated as high-risk and those are the two schools that were asking for.

J

Traffic medicated calming measures, one of them was david lewis and the other.

J

One was mike kennedy and kennedy matter of fact: they had two police officers and.

J

That david lewis, there was one and was another one that came and we're trying.

J

To work with parents, and the funniest thing is that a stop sign was put in and.

J

Everybody was stopping at the stop sign and all of a sudden there's a car coming down the middle of the of the street. So I approached the driver when he says.

J

Before you start talking to me, I want to let you know that I'm a I'm a teacher at.

J

The at the school up, the street at dr. norman bethune and I said well thank you.

J

Very much but you're putting the kids at risk and you want to make sure that the.

J

Kids, that we have here come over to dr. norm of a soon and you get to teach them.

J

Doctor bethune high school, the principal was here before us just last year and we.

J

Made changes through the left turns right turns at that school.

J

So fundy bay, unfortunately, is. It means that people use.

J

To cut through the subdivision and go in other areas and certainly canongate and.

J

Sam wood is an area which our people are using as a means to avoid steel's and.

J

Kennedy steel's, a kennedy is going to be an awful show, we're doing an overpass.

J

For the next year, the construction is happening and people will be cutting.

J

Through the subdivision, the last thing that I want and the last thing that.

J

Anyone one of us wants is another fatality on our watch, and I say this.

J

Wholeheartedly because if you have a fatality.

J

Colleagues, you won't be able to sleep for a long time. I have trouble sleeping.

J

And I'm asking you to support this, make sure not only my kids but all our kids.

J

Are safe and the end up going home? Thank you. Thank you and others to speak and.

J

Count: recommendations; okay, so counselor care, janice, moving.

B

Recommendations and then what I'll do is go around counselor to bear maker. First.

H

Thank you, madam chair. I will be supporting counselor care janice's.

H

Motion today to direct our staff to work with himself and the community to try to.

H

Find out ways to protect all of the children and all of the people that live.

H

In that community- and I I'm I know that every each and every one of us have.

H

Schools like this, and I think there is a crisis out there right now, not just in.

H

Front of schools, but across scarborough and across the city of toronto,.

H

It used the question used to be: where has the tragedy happened? The question.

H

Now is where hasn't the tragedy happened and every one of our wards people are.

H

Being killed, they're being maimed they're being injured everywhere on main.

H

Streets like steel's like ellesmere like lawrence, there's again, there's not a.

H

Main street that hasn't been affect on the inside of our streets in front of.

H

Our schools and in front of strip plazas in the middle of nowhere. Where there is.

H

No logic to say that there is a child running across to that the mac's milk.

H

Store to buy some candy or running across the street to go to school, to.

H

Play with friends it's everywhere and I think we're living with the history of.

H

Of where we have settled and where we have lived and in scarborough, we design.

H

These streets, in a way to make sure that the streets were very efficient and.

H

Traffic moved very quickly, the streets are succeeding at what there's that? What.

H

They were designed to do. Canongate trail was designed. Like a racetrack, I mean.

H

Look at it on the screen: it's like a big loop and the engineers of the day and.

H

The traffic professionals of the day and the planners of the day design those.

H

Streets at a certain curve not to make them like the grid pattern like they.

H

Have in downtown where you have to stop and stop and stop and turn left and turn.

H

Right they've made it like a big racetrack, doesn't surprise me that there.

H

Are people local parents included that are speeding on that street? We have a.

H

Situation where we have a hundred thousand people a year moving into the.

H

Gta there are more people moving into scarborough more into markham more into.

H

Pickering and now we have computers that allow me I would have never cut through.

H

This subdivision years ago, because I would be afraid of getting lost and I.

H

Would waste my time- and I wouldn't like that, but now with my computer, I I don't.

H

Need to know anything I can go to any municipality almost anywhere in the.

H

World and the computer will tell me what's the fastest way to cut through.

H

This subdivision, so we do have a crisis. That's why I'm supporting the motion. I.

H

Will caution the local councillor and and the good people that are in this.

H

Room today about speed humps, our staff just said to us: they don't really work.

H

So while I understand the tragedy, because I would want this to fall, no.

H

Human being ever in any part of this planet to have an innocent child killed.

H

Tragically, like this, we all want to do something to help heal that community.

H

And to help prevent another tragedy from happening, but putting speed humps, I don't think, is going to solve the problem. They have.

H

Speed pumps everywhere downtown toronto, children are still being killed. Cyclists.

H

Are still being crushed by trucks, people are just being killed in the middle of.

H

Roads everywhere, some of it comes back to us we've had this principals tell us.

H

Police officer there are there at the school people break the law in front of.

H

Police officers forget if any of us have been there and I'm sure, we've all been.

H

I've stood in front of schools with principals and with parents and I've.

H

Seen people break the law in front of me and their parents and they don't care. I.

H

See people on burr morton road in my my ward, who park on the other side of a.

H

Very busy road where cars are speeding at seventy eighty kilometers an hour and.

H

They tell they're four and five and six and seven year old children meet mommy.

H

On the other side of the road I'll pick you up in the van, they have designated.

H

Spots to pick up their children across busy streets, so I don't know if we're.

H

Gonna be able to change human behavior because I'm sure the parents here and.

H

I'm sure the members and in this chamber I don't speed when I go up bellamy road.

H

I go fifty kilometers an hour and cars pass me zoom zoom, zoom, zoom zoom. They.

H

Pass me I'm doing the speed limit at 50, but there are other human beings. Maybe a.

H

Small percentage, maybe it's getting bigger, but there's a group of human.

H

Beings that really act irresponsibly and dangerously and put their own children.

H

In harm's way, parents like we were told today who will.

H

Triple park in front of a school and let their own children jump out onto a road.

H

Where they're speeding cars, so we have to redesign our streets to make them.

H

Safer and we have a traffic calming manual, that's about 200 pages long. I.

H

Hope, the parents and I'm pretty sure the local councillors already read it, but I.

H

I hope everyone reads it. I think there are better ways and and good I'm going.

H

To say there are good ways to protect our children and to protect our.

H

Communities in a way that's actually effective. I don't think the speed humps.

H

Are gonna be what counselor kerr janice wants in the end and what his community wants in the end, but I will support them on their quest and.

H

I hope they read that traffic calming manual and I hope our staff will come.

H

And actually put some of these things in scarborough that aren't here now, but in.

H

Fact are in downtown and I've been pushing it for it. For my ward and I hope.

H

That we never have to see another tragedy like this: no parent, no community.

H

Ever deserves us. Thank you, madam chair. Thank you and councillor ainsley thank.

F

You, madam chair, I'm gonna, be supporting the recommendations in the report as.

F

Well, by cancer care, janice and his community, you know- and I think we all.

F

Have very similar issues when it comes to traffic. You know just on our agenda.

F

Today, the agenda- that's before us today, over half of the reports and the report.

F

Requests on this agenda are asking our transportation services staff to do.

F

Something to enhance or improve pedestrian safety in scarborough, it's.

F

Becoming a huge issue, you know we can look back to the first item that we had.

F

On this agenda on housing, we looked at a development that was created in 1950 and.

F

How we can maintain that development? If you look at the majority of the schools.

F

In scarborough and the age of scarborough, those schools were built.

F

Back in the 1950s, when you know car the car was king, the you you know you were.

F

Expected in scarborough df from point a to point b on by car, that's how our.

F

Streets were designed here, we are in 2018, trying to deal with a huge increase.

F

In car population I have all three of my kids. I've got one in university, one in.

F

High school one in grade school, if you're anywhere near the schools, the you.

F

Know it's, I won't say it's the wild west, but it's pretty busy and you know I.

F

Often fear for my kids and you watch kids walking across schools in areas.

F

Where it's a 40, kilometer or a 50 kilometer and people are barreling down.

F

Those streets at 60 kilometers when asked for speed enforcement nine times.

F

Out of ten, the the police get back to me, and they say that the majority of the.

F

Tickets that they handed out weren't for people cross, cutting or cutting through.

F

A community, that's people that live in that community, it's very embarrassing to.

F

Get pulled over when you live around the from a local school, but it still happens.

F

It happens on an ongoing basis. One of the issues we have you know around.

F

Police enforcement. I can't speak for 41 division and 42 division, but in 43.

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Division, we have one dedicated officer, that's looking after traffic enforcement.

F

Speed enforcement in an entire division, the city of toronto, they're down to one.

F

Officer, it's the number one complaint that I have in my area. It's speed.

F

Enforcement around schools we're trying to look at different things from.

F

Crossing guards, we have a school of vision, zero policy that we're currently.

F

Trying to implement, if any of my colleagues have looked at that report,.

F

When we passed it, they were, we were gonna, do implement the vision, zero.

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Policy or safeguards around schools, we were gonna, do 20 schools a year. That's.

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Most recently was bumped up to 40. I did a one of the pilots was announced in my.

F

Word a couple of weeks ago and meritorious that that's 80 schools.

F

That's two schools a year that are gonna, have the vision, zero traffic calming.

F

Measures put around it when I asked the general manager of our traffic.

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Department when they thought that vision, zero would be fully implemented in all.

F

The school zones across the city she said she was hoping for 2025. You know we.

F

Have to do something more, we have to look at all the measures that we have in.

F

Place I actually have a motion that I'm going to in truth later in the afternoon.

F

That all of you have before you is to report back from our transportation.

F

Staff to look at reducing the speed limit on local schools from 40.

F

Kilometers to 30 kilometers right now we have a very antiquated process. I'm.

F

Expected all of us are expected to go ahead and get a petition. I have a hard.

F

Enough time getting my residents to go out and do a petition everybody's so.

F

Busy these days, then they have to turn around I'm out, knocking on doors. I think.

F

We have to have more comprehensive measures in place. We have to be much.

F

More proactive, we don't want to have to be keep coming back here and looking at.

F

Measures around individual schools when something very unfortunate happens like.

F

This and we lose the student, so thank you. I will be supporting the.

F

Recommendations- and I hope it'll be unanimous.

B

Thank you and over to council early. Thank you very much.

I

Yeah, yes, I think all of us around the table here. Every counselor is funny soft.

I

Issues within their own local communities, for the schools and for the.

I

Last 11 odd years I have been going to schools and reviewing the traffic.

I

Situation in order schools- and you know, unfortunately I have to say this-.

I

Just like council heart was saying, many of these issues are caused by parents.

I

Driving the kids to school and when I was in the states, the use of a system.

I

Whereby the teachers or the staff or actually bring up signs at school start.

I

And school close and giving us at lunch break and reduce the speed limit to 15.

I

Miles an hour compared to normally they can be 30 35, 40, 45 and people crawl.

I

Along but they obeyed of signs because it strictly enforced and defiance triple.

I

During those times, if you do speed, so those are the kinds of measures that we.

I

Have to review to see what can be done and I think councillor ainsley is going.

I

To move a motion to reduce the speed limit from 40 to 30, I was supported as.

I

Well and support council jerry jerry jana's motion that she's brought forward.

I

We need to do things, but I think in the end I think we have looked into in the.

I

Mirror itself says, says: what can we do ourselves? Okay, not just it's, not a city.

I

Problem, it's a people problem that one that only thinks about themselves when.

I

They're going through the school zone or I'm in a hurry, I need to drop my kid.

I

Okay, everybody is fighting each other, so I think we need to be conscientious.

I

About how we treat each other, so I think this is something that we need to do and.

I

We'll move forward, thank you. Thank you and councillor shan.

B

Thank you, man, I'm sure I just also want to begin by thanking the educators who.

G

Are here at all levels and the parents who are here taking almost almost 3/4 of.

G

The day being here, I think we have a systemic issue that we're not doing at a.

G

Systemic level we've had schools come in here before, sometimes even the children who go to school come and made deputations here.

G

And we go school by school, looking at each situations separately, where over.

G

And over we hear the commonalities in many of these schools, I used to be a teacher before I also was a school board trustee for five years in.

G

South markham and north scarborough, which actually is kind of the area that.

G

Has seen the most amount of complications? Because the way of the.

G

Streets are designed the way schools are built, so I think it's quite unfair.

G

Sometimes that we throw a lot on to the parents, behavior though I know I.

G

Actually tell some principals that we might have to bring some of those.

G

Parents to the principal's office, and and sometimes that you know it's many of.

G

These parents are so into education when it comes to inside the building, but.

G

Outside the building, they see it as a separate thing, I tell the community that.

G

It is a school community. The outside behavior and inside behavior should be.

G

Connected as we expect from our kids, so you know I know there are culprits and.

G

Many times they are a handful of them, but I also think that by design we have.

G

Created schools that are consolidated, I have had schools that are almost towson.

G

Children in an elementary school setting and we create these schools and then we.

G

Put them together and expect people to walk and, in my area, there's a school.

G

Brookside, where my six-year-old son goes, you know if you walk through the.

G

Backside of the ravine, you can actually get to school within a few minutes, but.

G

Now they're being bused to the school, because the road is designed in a way.

G

It's more than 1.6 1.8, kilometers and within the same neighborhood. So we've.

G

Done a lot of our issues in terms of how we plan these streets, how we have kind.

G

Of make these places not walkable, not bikable, so I think it's important for us.

G

To take what is in our corner of the puzzle, which is the design piece, the.

G

Education piece it's too rich for us to be educating the educators and telling.

G

Them do more education, the parents, because I've seen the educators do.

G

Marvelous job all on and on again trying to get parents to change, behavior and id.

G

And they're trying their best, and I think it's important for us to acknowledge that piece and move on to what we can do from design piece. Because.

G

Enforcement, I say there are three parts: education, enforcement and the design.

G

Enforcement piece we keep hearing, the police is under-resourced and we have one officer for a big area. You don't have enough money for crossing guards. So.

G

I don't think the enforcement piece can be enhanced as much we might be able to.

G

Put in more resources to expand the human resources for it, but I think on.

G

The design side, we can do a lot more in whether it be stop signs where they.

G

Always stop sign whether it be more visible signs that deter people from.

G

Speeding, whether it be the built design, you know so, school boards can actually.

G

Start thinking about how their design we cannot design the same way as we design.

G

4050 years ago, when people walking because they aren't walking and in fact.

G

Many of the parents have to go to get get to jump on time that they, the 10-15.

G

Minutes for them to walk and walk back and take the car to go to work is in.

G

Addition to all the traffic congestions and the back transit that we have is an.

G

Unfair expectation, unless everything else changes around us, so I think we.

G

Have to live up to the reality that we have to start designing schools and.

G

Public spaces just like how we ask our buildings to be a certain chord when it.

G

Comes to parking and traffic flow, we have to be able to expect that from.

G

Schools, because they are built in a way that that you know brookside public.

G

School in my area, for example, always 700, kids, 600, kids and then you build a.

G

Catholic school right beside it with another 300 400 kids, just in like a lot.

G

And I don't know how we approve and start doing this to people and and and.

G

The principal's have other things to do other than be standing outside and.

G

Calming traffic, so I think I think the the community is fair in requesting us.

G

To look into this, and I think that request from the council is fair, but I.

G

Also hope that moving forward, I have a meeting in few days with, with all the.

G

Public school principals, together here at civic center, to bring all of those.

G

Things together, just like council hart, has done so. We need to kind of pull.

G

These together and start addressing this, you should not rely on principals and.

G

Students and teachers and parents giving up their time to come and advocate for.

G

This it's an important thing that they're doing, but it cannot happen school by school case by case after fatality by.

G

Pay the fatality, so I definitely support and look forward to a more system.

G

Approach to this, thank you thank you and cancer hurt. Yes, thank you chair. I just.

E

Want to pick up on something that counselor shen said, and I don't know if.

E

Everybody caught it or not, and you know he was mentioning that people are often.

E

Rushed in the morning- and they don't have time to walk their kids to school. I.

E

Think, that's that's. A key message I think we all have to remember is that.

E

People feel some obligation that they have to take their kids to school either.

E

Walking or by car my view is that kids can walk to school with their friends.

E

They don't need their parents and I think that's the phenomenal phenomenon.

E

We have today that we never had before that, for whatever reason parents feel.

E

That they have to escort their kids to school. I was never escorted to school.

E

And my kids were never escorted to school and I think that's the crux of.

E

The problem, and until we solve that piece, all of these other things will.

E

Help somewhat, but they won't solve the problem I'll be supporting counselor.

E

Cara janice, I mean we have to do what we what we can do to to solve the problem.

E

But this won't do it. We really have to encourage people to get out of the cars.

E

Walk to school and become healthier, you know, we've got the first generation of.

E

Young people in north america or the life expectancy is actually going to be.

E

Less and that's because we're putting kids in bubbles they're sitting on their.

E

Cell phones, they're sitting on their computers and they're, not walking.

E

They're not exercising doing those basic things. I talked to the local police. You.

E

Know, council ainsley has a good point. We have one officer that takes care of all.

E

Of our traffic issues, but again enforcement won't solve it, but the.

E

Police at 43 division, when I ask them what their number-one concern is in our.

E

Whole area and we have a very safe area, but their number one concern is cars.

E

Around schools, that's their number one concern and that's a that's something.

E

That's easily solved if people put their mind to it. Council ii mentioned to me.

E

Earlier about arizona and how they handle speed around schools- and you know.

E

When I'm in florida, I see the same thing, you know the speed around schools, the.

E

Posted speed limits forty-five miles an hour which is fast. The road.

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Or white, but what schools in session lunchtime before and after flashing.

E

Lights everywhere, 15 mile an hour limits, heavy enforcement people crawl through.

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The area just crawl, no totally different here you.

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Know we need to think about some of those things that we see in other places.

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Like arizona in florida and see if they're applicable here.

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Councillor ainsley is going to raise something later about reducing speed.

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Limits around schools- I talked to him about that. Actually, before this meeting.

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Started and I think that's something that would make all of our lives a lot.

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Easier, we bring all these report requests in on date, staff with a million.

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Reports to come back and if we just had a standard that said 30 kilometres an.

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Hour around schools, we'd save staff, a ton of work and we make the communities.

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A little bit safer and it's a pretty simple motion I think I'll be supporting.

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That one, when that gets tabled later, thank you.

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Thank you, councillor hurt and councillor kelly. mmm Thank you, chair I'll, preface.

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My remarks by thanking everyone for coming out this afternoon, I have an.

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Amendment an addition to councillor courage, be honest, emotions, I've reviewed.

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It with him he considers it friendly, and I would hope that members of this.

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Community council would support it as well. Everyone has to want to put it up.

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On the screen, please that are we quite often in our.

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Deliberations at committee and council talked about evidence-based of decision.

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Making we all have opinions. In fact, I've suspect that every one of.

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Us around this horseshoe could deliver a in effect of half our dissertation on.

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This particular subject, because we've all experienced it over the years but.

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What I would like to do to the degree that we can is try and figure out where.

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Where the real issues are to get beyond opinion and actually have some data that.

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Would inform us in our deliberations chair? I I've noticed that almost all of.

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The responses that have been presented today by us and staff and the deputes is.

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What what I call old tech, the old technology, bumps speed limits, stop signs.

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But the province has recently given us the ability to move into a hi-tech.

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Context and use electronic policing as one of our, I guess, tools in our toolkit.

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And so I would hope that we would not only look at the traditional responses.

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But also keep in mind and move towards the the more updated electronic was.

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Responses that could be available to us, if not in the immediate future, certainly.

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Sooner rather than later, the province has done a remarkable remarkable.

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Reversal of its traditional policy, I.

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Talked about electronic placing on pharmacy avenue where the earth, where.

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There's a high school mcdonald and two other schools.

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That went nowhere at that time with the province. Mississauga asked for this a.

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Few years ago and was turned down, but now the province has given us the tools.

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That, I think, could make our decision-making more effective and, while.

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It's not involved in this round of deliberations. I think that the public.

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And staff and ourselves should be aware that there are now available responses.

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That could be more effective than the old tech ones that we've been using. So.

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Often, and without significant alterations of driving behavior thank.

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You and I'll just speak really quickly and and say that I can concur with all.

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Of my council colleagues, I'm gonna be supporting councillor janice request and.

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Also councillor kelly's friendly amendment to that as well, and I can only.

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Just repeat what everybody said here we have, we have been dealing with this.

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Since I started in 2010, it's always been an issue and it's increasingly becoming.

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An issue because of the driving the parents driving and their kids to school.

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And the busyness around it, but it really comes down to human behavior, even on.

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Streets which don't have schools and we're requested for speed bumps it's.

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Always it's always an issue about speeding and in that regard, it's.

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Unfortunate that that people choose to speed it's a terrible behavior within a.

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Given given percentage of the population, now, I've worked really closely with.

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Transportation over the years and we've tried to put in other mitigating.

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Measures in order to address any of the speeding issues, in particular around.

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Schools, it's it's a combination generally, it could be speeding with.

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Infiltration, but also it's the behavior of parents.

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That that are you know in in there in correct spots or they're impatient or.

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Not paying attention- and I mean you- you even see the the province coming in with.

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Measures really strict measures with texting and driving. So I think, as.

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Technology changes, then those behavior changes as well.

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I also heard I know that councillor kerry janice was commenting on councilor.

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Hearts concerned with the lack of walking to school, I mean that that used.

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To be historically, what the built form was back in the fifties and people.

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Although we're the suburban environment, we were built on the car people still.

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Walked to school and then that changed over time now I wouldn't say that that's.

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A sign of the times I know when I was just on a flight.

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Recently and I went to zurich the gentlemen beside me, who was probably my.

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Age and had two very small children, age of four that walked to school. So I would.

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Say that it's cultural and less about the sign of the times, but again also.

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With the adoption of new technologies, we're going to see that change as well.

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Even as councillor de verre maker mentioned, with waze and with google maps.

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And we have all of these ways of infiltrating into communities that we.

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Wouldn't have infiltrated before simply because we can find an alternative route.

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So we have to combat that this in the best and the most I think, educated way.

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That we can, I don't know, and I as far as I've ever known from my from our.

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Transportation staff- I haven't heard that speedbumps work effectively to the.

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Degree that that that people think that they do- and I just wouldn't want that's.

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Why I haven't always been so supportive of them, because I wouldn't want it. I.

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Wouldn't want speed humps put in and everybody thinks that's gonna solve the.

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Problem and so with that, I'm gonna support it, but I hope that it's conveyed.

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To the community and all and really everyone that it won't be the.

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That you know the only solution or the magic bullet. I think it would help. I.

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Think it I think it may help, and especially if the transportation is.

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Suggesting the entire street, rather than just right, directly in front of the.

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School and I think that other measures, such as the stop signs added in, I think.

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That that would help speed reductions. As far as I understand, and I know.

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Councillor ainsley does have a motion coming forward after or it's it is a new.

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Added business, so that will have to be voted on from what I've heard. You can't.

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Go down to thirty kilometers without speed bumps. Now that's what I was told.

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By transportation so I'll be curious to hear what they say to that, and maybe.

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Some of those policies have changed over time with vision, zero. So with that, I'm.

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Going to put this to the vote will have a recorded vote yep and okay. So the the.

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Amendment first, all those in favor recorded vote so councillor kelly.

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Councillor hard councillor, shan councillor care, janice council, early.

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Councillor, holland, councillor ainsley and cancer jubair maker and on the item.

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Is it as amended yep so, as amended councillor kelly councillor hurt cancer.

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Stan counselor counselor, shannon cancer care janice councillor lee councillor.

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Hollen councillor ainsley and councillor duper maker, so that's unanimous support.

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And I also want to just thank everyone for coming today. It was a long day and.

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Really thanks so much for taking your time out of the school and coming down.

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And really for all the work that you do in and around the school on something.

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You probably wouldn't my brother's a teacher so high school teacher and he's.

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Out there all the time too. So it's probably not what, when you went to school for, but we appreciate you going above and beyond, for in light of.

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Protecting children at your school, so thank you so much, and so that report.

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Will come back to count that committee.

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So the next item up we have is 29:10, which is the application to remove a.

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Private tree, which is 345, finch dean square, and we have two speakers if they.

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Want to make their way down to the podium. That would be great what she's running in 42, madam chair, my understanding was that the staff have.

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Gotten some information that staff have some additional information that the.

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Applicant and the staff are still talking and and there's a motion that I.

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Would introduce to withdraw the application so that they can continue to.

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Okay, continue to have the conversation around this okay, so now so now does it.

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Require unless they want to, is that, okay, with you he's councilor shan is going to.

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Move a motion to withdraw the application. While you have conversations.

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With our staff- if that's that's good, okay great, so this is councillor shans.

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Motion and city council received this in for me, this item for information having.

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A regard for the property owner with withdraw and his application for a.

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Permit permit to remove one privately owned tree located at 345, finch d and.

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Square, so all those in favor opposed and that carry so that's what you're on.

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Thank you and we have one other deputed up on sc twenty nine point, two five.

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Which is a request for report scarborough civic center, and this is.

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With the mirror slab globbit globbit', thank you.

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Mr. glavish, thank you so much. It's five minutes it. I agree mostly, but there's a.

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Few things missing, unk upkeep of the council chamber, including the members.

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Lounge, you all know if you pass that part, so an leave is gonna rip. You apart.

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Your next article was that let's go the technological upgrades in the chamber.

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Including the sound system, if any of you seen we depute at in the city hall,.

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Building there's a little black transmitter that I use I'm hard of.

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Hearing that that helps me there's nothing here that works under aoda.

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The accessibility for ontarians with disabilities act, something like that. Yes,.

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You have to accommodate me until for the long, not a scarborough community council.

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That passing it like live stream, the serious it department that someone give.

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Me a real answer: why not a toronto east york, community councils.

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Being live stream right now, I had this conversation with counter angley a few.

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Times, north york and topical york, that's.

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That's outside city hall that technology, even the sound systems is beep, is beyond.

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Horrible, the accessibility of this chamber for people to come emily. I can't.

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Remember her last name: spastic yeah. She has to go all the way to the elevator.

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There go one floor running come down here. This room is.

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Not the nicest place for anybody with any any kind with most disabilities. I.

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Could say more colorful language, but I want again the sound systems beyond.

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Horrible anybody with a hard of hearing under aoda, I can barely hear you.

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When you people talk and when there's a lot of people, my hearing, it goes down.

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The toilet, I'm always wearing that the headphones.

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He helped me noise cancellation to go out. You know in there.

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The signage are really horrible in europe. I was born in croatia.

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Europe has about 40 something different language and you, you can't put a put a.

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Sign we really like this big, for example, a hospital instead of saying hospital.

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They put a red in, what's called a blue square with an white h, I'm use hospitals.

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International symbol, you all know the library branch that's somewhere there.

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There's absolutely no signs anywhere in this building or albert campbell square.

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Or in there it mentions it zero signs. You know a lot of people in scabbard.

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Don't don't speak in english, their first language 55% of torontonians yeah when.

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You do those sites more there's international standards to do anything.

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You know, and it would be nice to keep to have this room- hey, odie, a compliant way.

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Before 2025, you know, thank you. Thank you. Any questions, no cnn. Okay! Thank you. So.

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Much and so this one is to move the kingsley right to say: okay, stuff where's,.

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The staff sure that's our yep. No that's fine.

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Yep so questers, oh okay, maybe is anybody from facilities here? Can I can I ask it.

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To the mover, just that's why I asked so it's so they were. They were notified.

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Right they were no okay, so councillor ainsley.

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One of the difficulties we have here is that we have only two rooms according to.

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What I know available for community use and it's it's fairly put and sometimes.

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For smaller things, this room gets booked because those two are gone and and and.

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In scarborough one of the major issues, this affordable, free, affordable of free.

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Space for community programming, and so would your recommendation includes some.

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Of the spaces we do have upstairs, that are, there are available, but with some.

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Sort of a protection of the of the materials that are there or a staff.

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Thing to be made more open for community groups to use. I know this will include.

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Most may be more staffing and more more layering, so that the staff workplaces.

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Are protected in some ways, but I was wondering if your motion also request.

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That, because I know there are a number of spaces upstairs that could be used or even in the education side of things yep. So thank you, councillor shannon. I.

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Appreciate that question, and even when so facility staff approached me about.

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This when they saw it- and I said you know the list that I put here in the.

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Summary or the letter, it's not all it's not all-inclusive. I think you know.

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There's a wide range of issues. This building was built back in 1967, as you.

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Know mister glavish pointed out if you're in a wheelchair- and we have one.

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Of our good friends, that's in a wheelchair for her to get into this.

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Chamber, you have to go through the basement.

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Right, there's no other building in that's run by the city of toronto. You go.

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To the house of commons, you go to queens park. If you want to get into the chamber.

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You don't go through the basement, and and this you know this is.

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Been an ongoing issue for me: I've been in office for 12 years now. There's the.

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The meeting rooms that you were talking about when I first got elected so the.

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Reeves and the mayor's pictures that are here before us, they were in a boardroom.

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Up on the the second floor, that's only available to councilors. I know that both.

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Meeting rooms upstairs I'm in here for events we're both meeting rooms, have.

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Been occupied, this rooms been occupied and they're. Looking for first space for.

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A small meeting: well, we have a boardroom, it's the former mayors board room so on.

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The second floor: it's it's fully available is success accessible by.

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Elevator and then over the years you know, I've looked at some of the other.

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Things the thompson family bible when I first got elected one of the the.

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Original families in scarborough their family bible was in a glass case out on.

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The lobby and I had to repeatedly go to a heritage, because the the bible was.

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Cooking, in this case, the the corners were curling, the carriage that was in.

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The lobby wasn't up on any type of platform. The wheels were rotting in the.

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Mud, the pond out in the lobby that you know we've all seen children come here.

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They look at the koi, those I if the cleaners spill any type of cleaning.

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Liquid on the floor, there's nothing that keeps that fluids from going into the.

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Koi pond and killing all the fish, the walls I'll point behind the walls over.

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There, the walls are bubbling. These walls have been here since 1967 once and while.

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I see somebody sneeze into the walls, the walls never get cleaned right, they're.

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Carpeted the carpet on these walls, it's 50 years old up on the second floor, it's.

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50 years old right, the the sound system, you look at that board there that board.

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Before us, when I first got elected in 2006, there was councilors names there.

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Pre amalgamation. They were finally removed. The the buttons on front of us.

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Yay, nay rts. I had no idea what our ts meant. I finally went to former accounts.

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For brian ashton- and I said what is an rts, I thought it was right. This second.

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And he said no, I was for a quest to speak the buttons.

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Have never been changed. Our sound system is long overdue.

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Scarborough community council, we're you know if you go to a standing committee.

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At city hall or city council, its recorded its broadcast on youtube, it's.

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Saved this meeting we're having right now, there's no media here, except for mr.

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Glavish, but it's not being recorded on youtube. There's the clerk's supposed to.

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Be working at this, I think this building needs a lot of work and needs to be.

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Updated I'd like a list on this, you know if you go out on albert campbell square.

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We just passed a report earlier by councillor thompson and councillor de.

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Bear maker on the art features or the art skate that we'd like to see here, but.

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If you go out on the albert campbell square, there's two brass plaques: there.

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They they were hidden behind bushes, they never get polished. This building needs a.

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Lot of upkeep and maintenance- and I would like to see a report back, I said.

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We had with our colleagues here from the executive committee. They were kind of.

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Walking around going, the walls are carpeted. Why don't? We have a sound.

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System, you know we're trying to show off scarborough to the rest of the city and.

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It's we just seem to be slipping further and further behind in this building.

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Sorry long answer to a short question: great long answer right and councillor.

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Kerry janice to question the mover councillor. You've seen what happened out.

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In the topical all of a sudden, they found out that they etobicoke community.

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Council community center, the civic center- it was something that was old and.

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Let's do away with it. This is not where you think or you're.

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Proposing that we go that we find another place and get rid of this place.

J

You want to keep this yeah. I like this building. I think this is a great.

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Building, it's an architectural gem, it's one of words. We share the other half.

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With the the toronto public school board, the board of education, I want to stay.

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Here I think that you know this route. This building needs proper, upkeep and.

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Maintenance, it seems to slid off for for some reason, but you know, as I say again,.

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I can look over here that grille over there around the wall around the wall.

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Around that grill is bubbling, so I think you know.

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It needs some general maintenance and upkeep. I think it needs to be dragging into the 21st century a little bit. I think we need a better booking system.

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For the rooms and to make this more available, I you know, we've done many.

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Different things we have events here at councillor, lee's had an amazing canada.

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Day celebration, I think you make better use of this building we'll make better.

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Use of the square and the precinct around it as well: okay, other questions.

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Yep councillor leave consul a nice tea. You do know that this is heavy dish.

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Value so when I inquired about making this into more of a concert hall with.

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The center stage here I was thought that many of this business furniture cannot.

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Be touched because its heritage, so I think this needs be all taken into you.

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Know consideration because I had you know I helped my lunar new year.

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Celebration or tea up with the mayor and the place was just jam-packed, but we.

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Couldn't make use of this song so chambers itself, because many of the.

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Thing is, is not just convenient for the people come in here so because you're.

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Not allowed to bring drinks in here or food or anything any issue. So many.

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Things that you know has to be taken into consideration, so we cannot even.

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Touch the railings and so on, so because this is part of heritage yeah, you.

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Understand that right, I agree with that and I support it. I think that you know.

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There are basic things that we can do better in this room to make it more.

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Accessible, I don't know what happened in in 1967 if you were physically.

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Handicapped and you wanted to come and make a presentation to scarborough city.

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Councillors, but you know in the 21st century, when we have to be aoda.

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Compliant, I think you know we need a better system and and you'll be.

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Representative of the people we that elected us to be in this room, it's great.

B

Any other questions nope see none and councillor ainsley. I'm.

B

Just wondering if you can put, I know it says members lounge, but I don't know how.

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Much we lounge back there, but it's more. The bathrooms, like.

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State I mean it's just it's completely, I don't even know if that's accessible, we.

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Have a lot of accessibility issues, and even with aoda standards like even for.

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Members that there's somebody were to god forbid, get you know well, hopefully,.

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Get elected but if they have a disability, but if something happened to one of us and we, you know, broke a leg or something like that. How would we access.

B

That so I'm wondering if we could do a friendly amendment that I really think.

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That that those bathrooms need to be looked at yeah and I kind of look at.

F

That, as the the last point in an overview, the general maintenance, because.

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We have a members lounge, it's certainly nothing anywhere comparable to toronto.

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City hall, north york, I've seen their members lounge I've been in there, the the door locks behind you.

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The lights broken up until two years ago, one of the there's two toilets in the.

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Members lounge is to individual washrooms one of them shakes when we.

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Executive committee here and somebody one of our colleagues asked where the.

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Restrooms were, and I took them in there and they said you know you don't even.

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Have signs in here on the restaurant on the restrooms? There's no signage in here.

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I agree I'm just wondering if we could put in washrooms yep I'm fine with that.

F

Take that thank you. As I said, this is an all-inclusive list. I'm I'm hoping that.

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Staff will come back with a little more creative thinking and not just look at.

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This as an itemized list of what they think they have to do and come back and.

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Then we're saying to them: well what about this? What about you know you need.

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To look at this, okay, that's wonderful, and I agree so any to speak. Then I think.

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I spoke already: okay and I'll just speak really quickly, pen, only because I was.

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Just mentioning this this morning, so as that friendly amendment goes up and for.

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The bathrooms, and also for under here, which you can barely even move under the.

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Desks, it's it's! It's just completely! No organ ah mcli, not not functional, so I'm.

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Really hoping the staff will we'll look at not only the items on the.

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List but expand that to make sure that we cover all aspects. Thank you.

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And so it's referred the item to executive director facilities, management.

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For report back to scarborough community council at its meeting on june 6 and the.

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Structure and preservation attic ways these of the scarborough civic center.

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Including and not exclusive of the lists provided within the letter from.

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Councillor ansley dated march 19th 2018, all those in favor opposed and that.

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B

And and then the last item that we have is, oh sorry, there's two actually.

B

So councillor shan, you have number 20. So, madam speaker, that's on the east. Well,.

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Yep, so it's traffic until control signals, review, steeles avenue, east and.

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East vale drive city, I don't know if anybody from or transportation and ttc.

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Co, I have a question first #name?.

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Know the the recommendation is that the traffic light won't be necessary.

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Intersection, partly because the ttc stop has been removed from that location, so.

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This is where just to remind some of my colleagues where the accident happened.

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And the young woman got killed crossing the road, so I'm just asking in terms of.

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The recommendation right now: can you take me through why the decision was.

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That that a traffic light would not be necessary.

T

Through you, madam chair, we as a result of a direction from community council to.

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To study this location to have an updated study as a result, we have.

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Reported back, we had studied this location several years ago. It was not.

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Justified or technically warranted at the time that was a terrible unfortunate.

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Reality in january, at this location and at the january community council.

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Community has asked us to do an updated study and report back and we have, and when we conducted our study, we determined that traffic control.

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Signals or pedestrian crossing protection is still not technically warranted at this location. We also have concerns that when the morning future.

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Morningside avenue extension is constructed to the east of the site in a couple of years that that intersection will be signalized and then those.

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Signals will be relatively close to anything to this intersection and the.

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Environmental assessment process for the steels have any widening, including the.

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Morningside extension did not envisage traffic control signals to be installed.

T

At east val drive, so that is a concern. So how long? How long do you think the.

G

Morningside heights extension would take to steels. Sorry, I'm sure it's currently.

T

Going through detailed design, so I've been told that that, depending on how.

T

Signaling and funding goes, it could start construction in two to three years.

T

You know so it's sort of a middle term proposition to have that constructed, but.

G

That is also contingent on a lot of the things that happens with the developers in that area as well. I'm assuming right in terms of property acquisitions, three.

T

Manager, I'm not really sure what that how the abutting properties are.

T

Affecting the process my ivan, I know there's negotiations to be undertaken.

T

With that, those property owners quite a land for the extension, and it could.

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Actually affect the timing, but I've been told to look at maybe two to three years.

T

For a start of construction, thank you. I have a few questions for ttc.

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Representative as well, so the bestop in question was suspended. Mania know why it.

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Was suspended, chair right after the fatality occurred investigated this top.

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Location and he found out the stop itself, is safe in terms of having the.

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Required visibility on the either side, but the lighting is inadequate on the.

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South side of the roadway and the stop was taken out temper eastbound stuff was.

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Taken out temporarily, before the lighting we installed by the.

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Budget rona hydra right so would would there be openness right now if there's.

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No signal light that goes at that intersection. Can that stop be taken away.

G

Permanently, if there's no like, because if there's no traffic light on them or.

G

Is this, are you, are you reviewing it in the context of lighting? Are you reviewing it in the context of crossing to madam.

M

Chair, we reviewed in terms of discreet lighting with respect to the traffic.

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Light as mentioned earlier, there are adequate sight lines on the either side.

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Of the roadway just so the staff is not deemed unsafe. However, through that.

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Request we can do the further review with respect to to the traffic light.

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Installation and and can come back to the to come to the conclusion whether.

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The stop being stated, thank you any other questions of staff. Okay,.

B

No, it's cnn, then, to speak cancer chance. I haven't actually spoken to the flex.

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Office but I'm gonna request, there are multiple layers to this issue right now,.

G

Madam speaker, one of the issue is that potential.

G

Morningside extension would take care of the issue, but that could be two three.

G

Years and I'm afraid that I'm not getting clear sense that the traffic, the.

G

Ttc, stop will be out of commission if the tdc stop was to be used again even.

G

With lighting I'm still concerned about the safety of that particular area, so I.

G

Would like to and when I talk to transportation services ahead of this.

G

Meeting I was under the impression that the ttc stop would be removed, despite.

G

Even if the even, if there's better lighting from hydro, so I would ask if.

G

The council, if the scarborough community council can agree to defer this item to.

G

To july or june july, preferably for us to get a better sense of the.

G

Construction timeline around morningside heights, morningside avenue extension.

G

Plus the timeline on turner, hydro and when the lights would be available and.

G

With that, to do a final analysis of whether ttc will have a stop there or.

G

Not before we make a decision on on this, because if a tdc stop was to go there, I.

G

Would want a traffic light there, and and now we have a number of other factors.

G

That that influence that decision- and we don't have all the answers to this- and I.

G

Thank the staff for bringing it so quickly from the time we introduced the.

G

Motion, but I think we might need some time to I'm not completely comfortable.

G

Voting for staff recommendation at this time that asks for no traffic light. I.

G

Would like to get more information from toronto, hydro ttc, as well as planning in.

G

Terms of morningside extension, so if the council is company, I would like to have.

G

To defer the item to july council, do you, like committee counsel,.

B

So just deferral then okay, so we're gonna defer that to july.

B

Councillor shen, are you looking for further information between now and then.

G

Yeah for the information from ttc hydro, as well as the planning around around.

G

The three things I mentioned, the the future of the ttc spots: stop because I'm.

G

Not there's no conclusive answer whether it'll go on or off and there's also not.

G

Too much detail on the morningside high morningside avenue extension plus the.

G

Third factor is that, on a hydro, it's because it's an intersection between.

G

Markham and toronto they're working together to find a way to light that.

G

Area so those things have to be considered before we move both of the.

B

Hydro yeah both of the markham hydro in toronto, hydro, working together, yeah.

G

They're trying to figure out the lighting weather what would be needed to.

G

Adequately light that place so until that happens, I don't think until we get.

G

More information on that, I don't think I'm comfortable deciding for or against.

G

The traffic light right now, okay and the staff recommendation- is it's not in.

G

Favor of the traffic light, so okay, okay and then obviously transportation has.

B

That information and can- and it might take time right only actually over to.

B

Councilor ainsley's and then come back yep.

B

Okay, yep all those in favor opposed and that carries that's deferred. Yep. Thank.

B

You and then, the last item that we have is a a motion to add new business from.

B

Councillor ainsley and we in it this has all been circulated. So it's a item.

B

Number se 29.63, madam speaker, my fat thumbs before I circulated this. There is.

F

#Name? draw it everybody's attention. It's on.

F

All local roads around schools- I know I was just waiting to ask you that it.

B

Needs to say around around school, around schools, local roads, around schools, yeah.

B

We will we'll get into it. We have to add new business first, okay, yeah, okay, so all.

B

Those in favor of adding this is new business opposed, and that carries and.

B

Then, on the on the questions of the mover councillor, cara janice, thank you.

J

Madam chair, indeed, it's um it's. Something which needs reflection is.

J

Something that needs to be looked at, I'm just wondering if the counselor might is.

J

Aware that the in downtown a council that the general manager of translation.

J

Mrs. gray and her staff are doing a comprehensive report taking a look at.

J

And coming back and made a second on what should be done around schools come.

J

Trafficking devices and all that stuff, I'm just wondering if this is something.

J

That you might consider that we attach to that or or we send it to that, because.

J

Like I mean they're going to be coming back, there was a motion that was done.

J

I've moved the motion, the the mirror. Second, that I'm just wondering if this.

J

Is will be dovetailing with that or if this is going to be redundant because of.

J

That I'm so I'm moving this way. One of the reason we did vision, zero and mayor.

F

Tory was was that in so two of the pilot schools for.

F

Vision, zero that are being rolled out is in my ward and mrs. gray was there and I.

F

Was asking about how long was gonna take to roll that vision, zero and she said as.

F

I mentioned earlier, she said you know to do all the schools in the city on a.

F

Priority basis might take until 2025, and I said one of the biggest issues that I.

F

Have in my area- and I think a lot of my colleagues across the city to is.

F

Speeding around schools and when I talked to toronto police services, they.

F

Tell me hey if the speed limit can be reduced to 30 it, it's they get a lot.

F

Bang out of their buck when they give a ticket, people are in the 30 kilometers.

F

Speed limit around a school is much easily to enforce, and it's also much.

F

Safer for children, when what we're doing on may 2nd, when I talked to ms gray.

F

About doing something like this, she said that if we move this at scarborough.

F

Community council, that would help supplement, what's happening. The.

J

Conversation has happened, yep, yes, great any other questions of the mover. Okay.

B

Seeing none sorry I will. I will happily move it and just to quickly speak about.

F

This just to you know what kind of dovetail is on what we were talking.

F

About this morning, we need to be much more sorry counsel early. I was told to.

F

Move it so I get to speak yeah, so you know this is very important issue around.

F

All the schools, I think, right across toronto. You know, as I said earlier, the.

F

Number of motions and mechanisms we're trying to put in place to protect school.

F

Children we have a petition system that is very onerous. I have a high demand for.

F

It trying to get a petition getting residents to do everybody's very busy. I.

F

Meant knocking on doors. I know some of my colleagues here all right, knocking on.

F

Doors trying to get that petition sign. I think that putting something forward so.

F

It's comprehensive and it includes all the schools in the scarborough community.

F

Council area is the best approach to take.

B

Okay, so all those in favor of the motions as this team. So it's sort of.

B

Amended in on this one, with with all local roads.

F

I was never recorded yep recorded vote, so counselor kelley, counselor heart.

B

Counselor shan counselor, cara, janice, counselor lee counselor, paulin counselor.

B

Ansley and counselor dewberry maker, that's unanimous.

B

And so that concludes all the items on the agenda and then we have yeah just.

B

The general bills, so counselor ainsley, you have a motion to introduce and enact certain bills. I do thank you, madam chair, that the scarborough community council.

F

Passed sun declares bylaws bills 373 to 370 a prepared for the april 4th 2018.

F

Meeting number 29 of the scarborough community council and counselor did bear.

B

Makery of a motion to introduce than an act. Oh sorry, I have to confirm that all.

B

Those in favor opposed and that carries and then counselor to bear maker. You.

B

Have a motion to introduce an act, the confirming bill? Sorry, yes, madam speaker,.

H

Thank you that the scarborough community council.

H

Pass and declare is a bylaw, a confirmatory bill to confirm the.

H

Legislative proceeding of the scarborough community council acting under delegated authority at meeting 29 on april 4 2018, and shall this bill be.

B

Passed and declared his bile all those in favor opposed and that carries and.

B

That concludes until the next date. Oh, is it may 2nd? Okay, when we won't have to.

F

Worry about the heat, I hope. Thank you so much thanks to the.

B

Clerk's as well, if we're working your way through lunch and all of the staff.