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There
is
a
the
request
for
confirmation.
In
minutes
from
April
28th
can
I
have
a
motion
to
adopt
Terri
Lynn,
all
in
favor
so
moved
and
opted
before
you.
We
have
an
agenda
and
we've
got
a
several
different
items.
Some
items
will
be
held
for
four
speakers,
but
before
we
do
that,
we're
gonna
begin
with
the
the
chairs
report.
I
recognize
in
many
of
the
other
committees
at
the
City
of
Toronto.
The
chairs
are
not
report,
does
not
come
in
the
form
of
written
submission.
A
I
think
that
the
last
time
I
provided
the
the
chairs
report.
It
was
actually
a
long
verbalization
and
then
I
was
asked
to
try
to
summarize
some
of
those
points.
There's
a
lot
of
them.
Work
that
takes
place
outside
of
the
committee's
and
I.
Think.
It's
really
important
that
I
do
try
to
keep
you
apprised
of
some
of
the
business
that
I'm
asked
to
attend
to
so
I'm
gonna
succinctly.
A
Following
the
last
meeting.
There
was
also
some
discussion
offline
about
the
duration
of
our
committee
meetings.
How
long
should
they
actually
be?
There
was
some
discussion
at
our
first
two
meetings
of
the
disabilities
issues
committee
that
we
were
going
to
try
to
do
more
and
to
raise
the
profile,
the
good
work
of
the
committee
as
much
as
possible,
but
at
the
same
time
recognize
that
the
committee
has
been
traditionally
a
meeting
for
two
hours.
A
This
is
a
person
who
embodies
much
of
the
spirit
of
the
work
that
is
done
by
the
committee
and
her
expertise
and
her
compassion
and
her
ability
to
relay
good,
complicated
technical
information
in
a
manner
that
sex
is
accessible
to
all
will
be
sorely
missed
and
from
time
to
time.
I
know
that
Bernita.
Not
only
is
she
an
incredible
person
that
you've
all
had
an
opportunity
to
connect
with
individually
or
through
the
committee
over
the
years.
I
think
that
you
know
that
this
is
more
than
just
a
job
for
her
for
her.
This
is
this.
A
Is
this
is
the
thing
she
wants
to
do
it?
This
is
something
that
she
honestly
believes
in
and
and
I
know
that
we've
been
richer
at
Toronto
public
in
the
trial
City
Hall
in
the
corporation
because
of
her
invaluable
insightful
and
compassionate
contributions,
and
so
whether
it's
working
I
think
through
city
divisions
and
trying
to
get
the
entire
corporate
culture
to
understand
what
this
committee
has
been
Abuk
for,
or
you
know,
having
the
ability
to
invoke
and
effect
city
wide
corporation
wide
policy
change.
We
I
think
we
all
know
in
this
committee.
A
It
said,
is
no
easy
task
and
Bernita
has
been
able
to
to
do
all
of
that.
So
I
am
rather
sad
because
I
just
got
here
and
and
I
was
hoping
to
have
a
long
working
relationship
with
Bernadette,
but
she
has
assured
me
that
she's
not
going
to
be
far
away
and
if
I
need,
if
I
need
her,
we
can.
We
can
find
a
way
to
get
to
her.
A
So
I
know
that
I
would
speak
on
behalf
of
the
committee
members
and
you
have
an
opportunity
to
also
convey
your
your
thoughts
and
sentiments
and
but
at
this
point
time,
I'd
like
to
thank
her
Nita
for
her
extraordinary
career
of
public
service
and
to
thank
her
for
her
leadership
on
the
issues
that
really
matter
in
effect
Torontonians
making
our
lives
better.
So
thank
you
for
Nita.
Thank
you.
A
B
Thank
you
very
much.
I
didn't
expect
that
council
wantem
would
say
such
lovely
words
I,
consider
it
an
honor
to
have
served
with
you
all
and
some
of
you
I've
known
for
many
many
years.
Some
of
you
have
served
on
the
disability
issues
committee
for
more
terms
than
I.
That
I
can
can
think
of
I'm.
Looking
at
Archie
I
can
see
Sam,
Savona
and
Mazen
as
well,
and
there
are
many
folks
around
the
table
that
I've
known
for
many
many
years.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you.
B
The
issues
of
access
accommodation
at
the
City
of
Toronto
are
indeed
very,
very
important
to
me
and
I
think
I.
Think
the
blood,
sweat
and
tears
have
already
been
spent.
I
think
the
city
is
in
a
much
better
place
at
this
point.
It's
not.
It
still
continues
to
be
an
afterthought.
Sometimes
I
won't
lie,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
many
city
divisions
are
head
and
shoulders
above
where
they
used
to
be
and
I'm
I'm
really
proud
to
be.
B
A
part
of
that
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that
and
yes,
I
I
can
to
echo
the
same
sentiment
as
council.
Wong-Tam
I
was
so
excited
to
hear
that
she
was
going
to
be
the
chair
of
the
committee
and
I
guess.
One
of
my
regrets
is
that
I
don't
get
to
work
with
you
longer.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
car.
Do
you
sentiments
I'll,
make
sure
I
do
a
good
read
of
them
a
little
later.
I
don't
want
to
take
too
much
more
time
of
the
of
the
committee
agenda.
A
Thank
you
very
much
Brenda
and
we're
all
gonna
engage
in
a
group
hug
afterwards.
This
feel-good
feeling
cannot
end
right
here.
Thank
you,
I,
don't
know.
If
they're
members
of
the
committee
who
would
like
to
offer
a
few
remarks-
okay,
okay,
you
can
also-
you
can
also
say
it
privately
afterwards,
but
okay
yeah
just.
C
Would
like
to
echo
that
Bernita
you've
been
such
a
tremendous
support
to
the
group
overall
and
the
working
group
that
I've
been
on,
in
particular
with
the
transportation
working
group
and
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
for
all
the
time
you
spent
keeping
us
out
of
trouble.
Sometimes
I
wanted
to
be
in
more
trouble,
but
I
really
appreciate
your
guidance.
D
A
Thank
you
very
much
everyone,
and
so
we're
gonna
proceed
with
the
the
balance
of
our
agenda
and
Bernita
before
you're
off
the
hook.
You're,
actually
not
you're
up
next
I,
actually
like
to
invite
Vernita
to
speak
about
the
recruitment
process,
as
we
get
ready
to
open
up
the
the
proceedings
to
basically
recruit
new
members
and
and
more
members,
and
perhaps
returning
members
to
this
very
important
committee,
all
right
tissue.
B
I'm
going
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
committee
recruitment
process.
As
you
know,
I
guess.
A
couple
of
meetings
ago
I
had
said
that
we
were
going
to
wait
until
the
application
process
online
would
be
completely
accessible.
It
is
now,
however,
think
about
the
timing.
This
is
June
the
second,
so
in
concert
with
City
Clerk's,
we've
decided
to
hold
off
on
the
application
process
until
the
summer
holidays
are
over,
and
that
means
that
people
would
be
at
home,
they're
able
to
concentrate
on
filling
out
the
application
form
etc.
B
So
when
my
successor
is
in
place,
I'm
going
to
be
recommending
that
the
appointment
process
begin
in
September
I
don't
have
an
actual
date
for
you,
all
of
the
organizational
documentation
will
all
be
prepared
beforehand.
So,
basically,
at
the
push
of
a
button,
we'll
start
the
application
process
at
that
point
with
a
communication
strategy
which
will
largely
go
out
by
email
but
also
through
other
means,
whichever
means
that
we
have
I
have
already
collected
a
sampling
sampling,
but
a
collection
of
names
and
email
addresses
of
people
have
already
expressed
interest
in
applying
to
the
committee.
B
Once
again,
all
the
members
of
the
current
committee
are
strongly
encouraged
to
apply
again.
Please
do
so,
and
yeah
more
information
will
be
coming
shortly.
Hopefully
that
that
will
address
a
number
of
questions
that
people
have
had.
I've
had
I
continued
to
receive,
I,
guess,
emails
and
phone
calls
of
interest.
That's
really
exciting
to
know
that
other
people
want
to
serve
on
this
committee
as
well.
Okay,
thanks
thank.
A
You
very
much
Benita
and
I
think
our
office
has
also
collected
a
list
of
individuals
who
have
contacted
us
who
are
also
interested.
I
suspect
that
you
and
your
daily
workings
and
activities
will
also
have
a
wide
network
to
pull
from,
and
we
hope
to
have
a
very
active
and
robust
recruitment
process.
Our
next
item
up
for
four
on
the
agenda,
is
the
City
of
Toronto
success
rate
design,
guidelines
2015.
A
We
do
have
a
presentation
that
will
be
delivered
by
staff
in
particular,
Steve
Williams,
Willison
facilities,
management,
division
and
Joseph,
Salvaggio
facilities,
management,
division
of
the
City
of
Toronto,
and
then,
after
the
staff
presentation,
will
we
be
taking
speakers
so
those
who
are
interested
in
speaking,
if
you've
not
already
registered
the
clerk?
Please
do
so
we'll
get
you
on
that
list.
I'm
handing
it
over
to
you.
A
E
My
name
is
Anil
Sharma
I'm,
the
general
manager
of
facilities
with
the
City
of
Toronto
I'm
joined
today
by
Joseph
Salvaggio,
who
is
providing
program.
Oversight
for
the
accessibility
guidelines,
development
for
Toronto,
the
City
of
Toronto
and
also
with
me,
is
Steve
Wilson.
What
Steve
is
responsible
for
the
detailed
construction
and
design
aspects
of
the
program
as
it
is
developed
and
the
documentation
as
related
to
that?
I
would
like
to
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
and
provide
an
update
on
our
progress
on
this
very
important
program
within
the
City
of
Toronto.
E
F
So
our
agenda
for
today
is
a
brief
introduction.
You've
met
all
the
parties
at
facilities,
management,
we're
gonna,
go
back
and
give
you
a
background
on
AODA,
just
to
put
the
accessibility
guidelines
in
context
and
then
we'll
give
you
an
update
on
the
guidelines
themselves
as
to
where
we
are
at
currently
today
and
then
we'll
open
the
discussion
up
for
any
Q&A.
At
this
point
I'll
hand
it
over
to
my
colleague,
Steven
Wilson
and
he'll.
Take
us
into
the
AODA
background.
F
G
So
a
Oda
legislation
was
passed
back
in
2005,
mainly
because
the
province
needed
strong
legislation
to
develop,
implement
and
enforce
standards
of
accessibility,
not
just
for
the
public
sector,
but
also
for
the
private
sector
as
well,
and
the
main
requirement
is
that
all
barriers
be
removed,
preventing
people
with
disabilities
from
participating
in
normal
daily
activities.
And,
of
course,
the
ultimate
goal
of
of
the
legislation
is
that
the
province
will
become
fully
accessible
by
2025.
G
So
another
important
fact
is,
of
course,
that
the
AODA
definition
of
disability
is
exactly
the
same
as
the
Ontario
Human
Rights
Code,
and
it's
based
on
the
principles
of
inclusive
design,
not
just
disabilities,
but
for
all
members
of
the
public,
including
people
with
disabilities,
says
so
about
inclusivity,
rather
than
specifically
certain
groups.
So,
following
the
AODA,
City
Council
made
a
commitment
in
2009
to
establish
policies,
practices
and
procedures
that
are
consistent
with
the
AODA
again,
with
the
same
ultimate
goal
of
the
city
becoming
fully
accessible
by
2025.
G
The
first
was
customer
service
standard
back
in
2008,
following
that
was
the
integrated
accessibility
standards,
which
included
information
and
communication,
employment
and
transportation.
Then.
Finally,
the
fifth
standard,
which
really
relates
most
to
the
City
of
Toronto
accessibility
guidelines,
is
the
built
environment
standard
and
that's
actually
being
split
into
two
parts,
the
first
part
being
designed
the
public
spaces
which
I'll
go
into
later,
second
part
being
the
building
code,
accessibility
requirements.
G
So,
starting
off
with
the
design
of
public
spaces,
this
applies
to
new
and
renovated
spaces,
usually
they're
outside
the
property
line
they're
in
the
public
realm,
and
they
include
areas
like,
for
instance,
recreational
trails
and
parks
play
spaces,
public
roads
and
sidewalks
and
public
parking
spaces.
Second
part
is
the
Building
Code
accessibility
requirements,
and
you
know,
as
the
name
says,
it's
it's
really.
It's
really
that
part
of
the
built
environment.
G
That's
also
incorporated
in
that
current
Ontario
Building
Code
2012
and
the
accessibility
amendments
that
came
into
force
January
1st
this
year
and
again
it
applies
to
new
buildings
and
major
renovations,
and
the
important
thing
is
is
that's
clearly
defined
in
2012,
Ontario,
Building,
Code
and
again
as
examples.
What
that
relates
to
is
the
approach
and
entry
to
buildings
in
usually
inside
the
property
line.
So
when
you
enter
the
building
communication,
spaces,
circulation,
elevators,
washrooms
and
and
all
interior
spaces.
G
And
so
the
current,
the
current
situation
that
we
have
to
deal
with
a
bit
messy,
because
we
have
to
ask
our
consult
design,
consultants
and
staff
to
take
into
consideration
four
separate
documents
that
being
the
Ontario
Building,
Code,
AO,
AO,
design
of
public
spaces,
the
building
code,
accessibility
requirements
and
also
the
existing
City
of
Toronto
accessibility
guidelines.
It
should
published
in
2004.
So
you
know
it's
a
rather
difficult
kind
of
situation
when
you
ask
your
consultant
to
look
at
four
different
documents
and
determine
the
optimum
requirements
for
accessibility
from
that.
G
G
Represent
the
highest
standards
of
accessibility
today
and
also
take
into
consideration
standards
that
other
municipalities
have
put
into
place
so
really
we're
looking
at
an
evolving
document
that
takes
into
consideration
new
standards,
new
laws
and
and
continually
revisits
what
what
is
the
best
practice
and
what
is
applicable
to
the
current
situation.
So
once
again
that
the
the
the
proposed
intention
of
the
new
accessibility
guidelines
is
to
provide
one
reference
point,
as
well
as
the
building
code
for
consultants
and
staff
to
establish
a
best
practices
threshold.
G
If
you
look
at
the
diagram,
essentially,
we
have
four
separate
boxes
which
contribute
to
this
one
document,
which
is
a
best
practices
threshold,
and
the
challenge
is
to
develop
a
guideline.
That's
applicable
to
the.
As
you
know,
most
most
of
our
properties
are
actually
existing
buildings
or
not.
New
buildings
are
being
renovated
over
a
period
of
time,
and
the
challenge
is
to
create
a
guideline
which
can
not
only
apply
to
brand
new
buildings
but
renovations
and
limitations
of
the
existing
buildings
that
we
already
have.
G
And
if
you
look
at
the
four
bottom
boxes,
what
you're
looking
at
is
a
national
CSA
standards,
Ontario
Building,
Code
2012,
the
AAV,
a
public
spaces,
Building,
Code,
accessibility
requirements
and
other
best
practices.
Documents
that
we
wanted
to
take
into
consideration
in
this.
So
next
slide
shows
a
matrix
of
these
different
documents
for
every
requirement
that
we
had
in
the
existing
accessibility
guideline.
Do
you
wanted
to
compare
these
documents
side-by-side
and
highlight
in
yellow
this
is
just
one
page
out
of
about
50
of
what
is
the
optimum
standard
for
each
of
those
requirements?
G
Applicable
to
each
of
the
requirements
of
the
existing
Toronto
accessibility
guidelines
next
slide
shows
the
four
documents
that
we
main
documents
that
we
compared
at
the
top,
but
then
there's
a
very
extensive
list
of
additional
reference
documents:
I'm
not
going
to
read
through
them
all,
but
examples
might
be
the
Toronto
vibrant
streets.
Consider
the
construction
standards
and
other
municipal
standards,
for
instance,
London
and
Oakville
have
very
strong
standards
in
terms
of
accessibility,
and
these
are
what
we
wanted
to
take
into
consideration.
G
G
F
You
Steve
okay,
so
this
slide
provides
an
overview
of
the
overall
milestone
schedule
to
update
the
accessibility
guidelines
and
take
them
to
Council
for
approval.
As
you
can
see
from
the
blue
bar,
we
are
currently
at
the
50%
draft
stage
and
progressing
towards
75
to
90
percent
Draft
by
the
end
of
summer
2015.
The
goal
is
to
be
ready
to
release
the
guidelines
by
early
2016
or
sooner
and
then
Institute
staff
training
throughout
the
divisions.
F
Slide
shows
a
list
of
our
stakeholders
currently
involved
in
the
project,
as
well
as
new
stakeholders
who
will
be
brought
in
to
participate
in
the
75%
to
90%
stages,
indicated
in
the
red
text.
As
you
can
see
there,
we
have
a
very
large
group
of
stakeholders
which
include
private
citizen
and
nonprofit
state
such
as
Canadian.
F
Excuse
me,
Canadian
National
Institute
for
the
blind,
as
Steve
mentioned
earlier,
as
well
as
we
have
City
Board
and
agencies
at
the
table
represented
some
examples
are
TTC
and
Waterfront
Toronto
and
we
have
over
16
internal
divisions
represented
at
the
table
with
Parks
and
Recreation
as
one
example
and
transportation
services
and
some
of
the
additional
divisions
who
will
be
brought
in
who
are
indicated
in
red
on
the
right.
Of
course,
Council
Committee
stakeholders
include
the
disabilities
issues
committee,
our
interdivisional
staff
team
on
equity
and
diversity,
and
our
customer
service
steering
committee.
F
The
overall
project
of
updating
the
Toronto
accessibility
guidelines
is
sponsored
by
equity
diversity,
Human
Rights
Division,
the
corporate
chief
officer
and
the
city
manager's
office,
with
F
with
facilities
management,
taking
the
lead
on
the
implementation
of
the
project.
Our
our
consultant
is
accessibility,
advantage,
they've
been
procured
last
year
and
they
have
over
ten
years
of
experience,
working
on
accessibility
issues
in
the
industry
and
they've
worked
with
other
municipality
and
provincial
organizations
as
well
as.
F
We
all
know
AODA
is
not
limited
in
its
application
and
influences
in
many
aspects
of
our
built
environment.
This
slide
shows
a
timeline
view
of
some
of
the
other
AODA
initiatives
currently
underway
within
the
facilities
management
organization
over
the
next
10
years.
As
you
can
see,
the
top
bar
indicates
the
accessibility
guidelines
being
implemented
in
2016
and
then
also
spanning
across
to
2025,
recognizing
that
the
document
is
a
living
document
and
is
always
up
for
interpretation
and
additional
edits.
F
Further
developments
underway
with
facilities
management
will
include
staff
training
on
the
accessibility
guidelines
and
then
the
broken
Arrow's
progress
towards
2025
to
indicate
ongoing
staff
training
as
new
city
staff
join
organized.
We
also
have
a
initiative
which
underway
currently
with
the
five-year,
signage
and
wave
finding
work
plan.
This
encompasses
upgrading
the
signage
and
wayfinding
in
all
our
Civic
centers
at
City
Hall
in
Metro,
Hall
and
we'll
have
to
look
at
influences
of
a
DA
for
high
contrasting
signage
and
also
the
use
of
electronic
signage
as
well.
F
We
have
currently
counter
a
customer
service,
counter
strategy,
that's
in
place
and
is
underway,
and
there
will
be
influences
of
the
the
this
in
the
guidelines,
perhaps
in
the
form
of
diagrams
that
will
clarify
not
only
within
our
major
corporate
facilities
but
also
to
aid
other
divisions
on
how
to
deal
with
customer
service
counters
and
how
they
address
accessibility,
issues
and
then
overall.
The
bottom
and
arrow
indicates
our
physical
implementation
of
renovations
and
upgrades
to
our
capital
portfolio,
and
this
applies
to
other
divisions
throughout
the
city.
F
F
We
also
start
to
develop
a
renovation
compliance
criteria
which
will
address
situations,
as
Steve
mentioned
earlier,
to
deal
with
restrictive
portfolio
buildings
such
as
our
heritage
buildings
and
our
buildings
that
are
on
tight
urban
sites,
where
we
name
may
not
be
possible
to
move
move
ahead
with
some
of
the
recommendations,
recognizing
that
there
are
many
codes
and
standards
driving
the
guidelines.
We
will
also
include
reference
tables
and
diagrams
for
situations
common
to
city
buildings,
such
as
service
counters,
as
I
discussed
earlier.
F
Our
future
goals
and
priorities
will
be
to
establish
the
Toronto
accessibility,
compliance
and
enforcement
strategy
to
ensure
the
city
divisions
are
implementing
the
guidelines
on
future
new
and
major
renovation
projects.
As
we
talked
about
earlier,
it's
an
adaptable
document,
it's
a
living
document
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
it
is
addressing
the
needs
of
all
divisions
in
all
citizens.
As
I'm
sure
you
can
appreciate
updating,
throne
accessibility
guidelines
comes
with
some
challenges
which
face
us
today
and
some
which
will
face
us
in
the
future.
F
Currently,
these
include
establishing
a
best
practice
threshold
which
meets
the
needs
of
all
Torontonians,
trying
to
find
the
right
balance
and
getting
consensus
from
our
stakeholders
will
be
essential
to
our
success.
Looking
ahead,
we
will
also
have
to
anticipate
and
plan
for
future
funding
requirements
over
the
next
10
years
and
establish
a
sustainable
fiscal
plan
which
won't
overburden
the
city's
capital
budget
on
improvements
required
to
our
facilities.
F
We
will
need
to
work
together
with
all
divisions,
but
most
notably,
the
equity
and
diversity,
Human
Rights
Division,
to
ensure
that
our
measurement
and
compliance
tools
support
the
city's
overall
accessibility
plan
and,
most
recently
passed
by
Council
in
March
of
2015.
We
are
looking
ahead
now
at
aligning
the
city's
municipal,
bylaws
and
procedures
and
policies
with
AODA
and
perhaps
even
they
Toronto
accessibility
standards.
F
A
You
very
much
and
before
we
open
the
the
opportunity
for
questions
from
the
committee,
we
are
going
to
take
speakers
from
the
audience,
so
don't
stray
too
far
we're
going
to
have
you
back
shortly.
I'm,
just
gonna
call
for
our
speakers
on
this
particular
item
and
the
first
speaker
I
have
registered
is
a
Miroslav
glass.
Vic
Miroslav.
Are
you
speaking
to
the
item?
Okay,
we're
just
gonna
have
to
switch
seats
for
a
bit
and
then
I
understand.
There's
another
gentleman.
Can
you
please
let
the
clerk
know
that
you're
interested
in
speaking.
H
Of
the
things
I
haven't
seen
is:
is
the
city
dealing
with
hard-of-hearing
people?
I
am
hard
of
hearing,
there's
a
difference
between
hard
of
hearing
and
deaf
I.
Don't
know
sign
language.
The
only
sign
language
I
know
is
a
one
one
finger.
If
you
all
catch
my
drift,
the
same
thing
as
people
with
visual
disabilities.
Don't
know
most
of
them,
don't
know
Braille.
You
know
when
you
go
on
the
subway,
those
little
bumps
and
we
don't
know
my
hearing
is
going
to
go
down
down
the
toilet.
It
runs.
H
Some
people
think
is
getting
close
to
the
person
and
raising
your
voice.
It's
going
to
make
me
be
able
to
hear,
hear
you
better
one
of
the
things
I
do
many
times
I.
Have
my
cell
phone
I
can
type
in
and
show
you
in
the
screen.
If
you're
speaking
speaking
to
me,
yeah,
you
can
do
your
yourself
on
a
pen
and
piece
of
paper.
A
lot
of
that
harder
here
on
the
whole
is
just
a
belt.
Is
spread-spectrum
hard-of-hearing,
it's
at
the
bottom
of
the
of
the
scale
of
any
of
anybody.
H
Caring
in
society,
not
every
disability
is
visual,
hasn't
ever
been
different.
This
room
should
know
when
I
use
the
wonderful
public
transit
system.
I,
don't
know
if
any
feet
take.
It
has
a
stop
announcement.
I
can't
hear
it.
No
number
I
was
especially
when
I
came
here
in
in
rush
hour.
People
hard-of-hearing
are
no
different
than
any
of
you
and
we
shall
be
true
three
equally
at
some
point
in
history,
we
all
been
discriminated
on:
gender,
sexual
orientation,
color,
skin,
the
same
thing
power
here,
people
we
shouldn't
there
should
be
a
training
on
we're
staff.
H
H
It's
a
way
for
me
to
know
my
voice
is
not
it's
high
enough
that
you
can
hear
me
so
if
and
if
you
could
bring
emotion
or
whatever,
to
put
you
dis,
Paris
training,
especially
somewhere
in
alliances,
don't
get
close
to
a
bit
to
a
person
and
start
yelling
at
them
degrading
degrading.
You
know,
that's
all.
Thank
you.
A
I
Good
good
morning,
members
of
council
and
members
of
committee-
thank
you
for
for
hearing
me
in
the
last
moment
on
this
item,
because
it's
a
very
important
one
I
want
to
first
of
all
say
to
our
colleagues
over
at
the
City
of
Toronto.
You
did
a
great
job.
You
really
have.
There
are
some
information
and
an
additional
input.
That's
come
in
regards
to
some
of
the
communications
considerations
as
well
as
financial
applications
that
need
to
be
made
more
robust
and
and
and
resourced.
Accordingly.
That
will
help
folks
get
through
this
process.
I
You've
done
a
great
job.
What
I
will
say
with
that
being
said,
is
I
always
remember
very
clearly
a
statement
of
the
assistant
deputy
minister
of
the
Italian
government
at
the
Helios
project,
which
was
the
Europeans
Commission's
guidelines
process.
That
I
was
invited
to
be
involved
in
as
a
former
president
of
beyond
ability
international,
and
he
said
this.
We
have
the
very
best
accessibility,
guidelines
and
laws
in
all
of
Europe.
We
just
don't
enforce
them
and,
as
the
AODA
legislative
review
by
now,
Provost
Moran
very
clearly
said.
I
Is
that
we're
at
a
watershed
moment
at
2015,
ten
years
away
from
2025,
and
we
have
to
recognize
that
the
enforcement
of
the
guidelines
or
any
the
AODA
itself,
and
even
the
positioning
and
engagement
of
the
accessibility
committees
to
such
ends
is
lacking
so
again,
I
make
the
statement
we
can
have
the
best
standards
in
all
of
the
world.
If
we're
not
going
to
enforce
them,
they
mean
nothing,
and
that
is
very
much
the
case
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
I
I
say
this
with
the
greatest
amount
of
respect
to
everybody
and
Bernita
I
wish
you
very
well,
we've
known
each
other
a
long
time
and
I
know
how
tough
your
job
is.
As
a
former
accessibility
coordinator,
I
know
it
it's
very
difficult
and
it's
very
important
of
your
interdepartmental
collaborations,
with
good
and
smart
people
like
these
colleagues
to
my
left
and
to
your
right
accordingly
from
the
planning
department,
good
people
doing
good
things,
your
legacy
will
live
on.
It
just
needs
to
be
implemented,
so
I
will
make
these
additional
points.
I
The
connection
between
the
built
environment,
the
building
code,
the
planning
department
and
the
building
department
and
the
Planning
Act.
Two
cultures,
two
pieces
of
legislation
and
and
and
typically
are
at
odds
with
each
other,
not
only
in
the
process
and
timing
of
the
process,
but
also
in
how
they
see
things,
bricks
and
mortar
sidewalks
and
other
things,
and
it
doesn't
matter
how
accessible
your
building
is
or
how
accessible
or
well
trained
your
staff
are,
if
they
can't
get
to
it,
public
transit
being
an
example,
accessible
cabs
being
another.
I
So
we
have
to
resolve
these
disconnects
not
only
in
public
policy
but
as
a
result
is
in
public
safety.
We
need
to
retrofit
and
I
very
much
appreciate
that
point,
because
we
are
built
City
and
there
cannot
be
any
more
new
excuses
for
new
barriers,
so
the
retrofit
for
optimum
result
is
really
really
important.
Timing
is
everything
it
really
really
really
is.
The
planning
department
has
to
be
out
front
on
these
things.
I
This
committee
has
to
be
out
front
of
the
planning
department
in
these
things
and
how
you're
positioned
as
a
committee
within
that
process
is
very
very
important.
Oakville
is
a
great
example,
I'm
very
proud
to
have
that
example
put
forward
here,
because
we
did
a
lot
of
their
work.
London
not
so
much
be
very.
Very
careful.
London
is
one
of
those
places
that
says
one
thing
and
does
something
completely
different.
I
can
assure
you
of
that.
Having
now
them.
I
Second,
at
the
top
of
the
list
for
municipal
failure
for
enforcement,
they
do
not
even
respect
regulation
581
of
the
Highway
Traffic
Act
that
governs
the
Charter
and
Human
Rights
provisions
and
public
safety
provisions
of
accessible
parking.
Much
like
the
Toronto
Police
Services
well
done
on
the
stakeholder
inclusion.
Smart
people
surround
themselves
with
people
that
are
going
to
tell
them
what
you
need
to
hear
as
opposed
to
what
you
want
to
hear.
That's
very
important,
having
an
accessibility
community
to
do.
That
is
also
very
important.
I
Changing
that
operational
hearts
and
mind
is
at
the
core
of
this
entire
exercise:
legislation
or
guidelines-
don't
change
minds.
They
just
constrained
the
heartless
and
in
this
process,
as
Bernina,
perhaps
can
attest,
and
I
can
and
many
around
this
room,
it's
a
very
difficult
and
tough
job
to
do
convincing
others
of
a
reality
that
they
just
simply
do
not
get.
Mr.
I
I
A
J
Excellent
report
excellent
work
on
the
report,
but
you
missed
one
vital
aspect
of
society
and
people
with
disabilities
in
the
city
and
something
that
I
fought
for
for
the
past
year,
my
husband
and
I,
both
legally
blind
I'm
in
a
wheelchair,
technically
learning
disabled,
my
husband's
slightly
physically
disabled,
we're
homeless.
For
eight
months,
my
hometown,
there
was
nowhere
for
us
to
go
no
homeless
shelters.
He
wanted
to
split
us
up.
I
came
back
home
to
Toronto
since
we'd
been
out,
east
living
in
Halifax
came
back
to
Toronto.
J
Our
lives
are
put
in
danger
by
one
individual
at
the
family.
Res
Selter,
on
Kingston
Road
we'd
spent
I'd
spent
three
days
total
of
about
8
hours
on
the
phone
with
central
intake.
They
want
us
to
split
us
up.
I
said
no,
we're
fully
depend
on
each
other,
I
can't
survive
without
him
and
he
can't
survive
without
me,
simple.
J
When
we
got
into
family
res,
we
were
there
close
to
five
months.
There's
no
accessibility,
I
destroyed
my
old
wheelchair,
because
I
had
to
store
it
in
a
room
where
we
were
staying
that
had
barely
any
heat
we
fought
for
heat.
We
went
through
discrimination
by
workers
constantly,
we
were
treated
like
children
by
staff,
and
it
got
to
the
point
where
my
wheelchair
was
breaking
because
it
froze
and
thawed
and
frozen
thawed,
because
it
was
parked
near
the
outside
door
of
the
room
we
were
staying
in
the
only
place.
J
J
They
counter
at
the
kitchen
we
were
supposed
to
cook
in
was
not
accessible.
The
doorways
had
bumps
an
inch
and
a
half
high
at
times
and
very
narrow.
How
safe
is
it
for
a
visually
impaired
person
be
carrying
a
scalding
pot
of
food
through
three
doors
very
bump,
with
large
bumps
with
narrow
passageways
as
well
as
being
legally
blind?
Would
you
want
to
do
it?
I
ended
up
having
to
go
to
the
City
Ombudsman
to
get
any
help
whatsoever
and
all
they've
done
is
slap
a
few
buttons
on
the
shelter
doors
that
usually
don't
work.
J
The
staff
attitude
hasn't
changed,
there's
no
accessible
formats
and
any
of
the
documents
they
give
you
no
staff
training.
It
was
so
traumatic
that
we
were
sent
out
in
a
cold
February,
eighth
of
2013
minus
30
windchill.
If
you
may
remember
a
staff
member,
not
giving
us
properly
visually
impaired
Direction.
That
would
help
us
get
to
the
Lido
motel
in
the
dark,
with
tons
of
snow
on
the
ground.
Thank
God
for
TTC
bus
driver
because
he
begged
me
he
called
his
control
to
put
him
out
of
service.
J
So
he
could
drive
us
directly
to
the
front
door
of
Lido.
Motel
I
did
common
date
that
driver
I'll,
never
forget
the
bus
number
seven.
Five,
eight
eight
on
the
86
Scarborough
I,
don't
know
his
name.
I
never
got
confirmation
that
he
was
coming
ended,
but
he
saved
two
severely.
Disabled
persons
lives
that
night
and
people.
Ask
me
why
I'm
angry
with
this
city.
People
ask
me
why
I've
partially,
given
up
and
not
fight
anymore
I've,
been
advocating
for
disabled
for
25
years.
J
Just
over
that
now,
I've
been
on
communities
like
this,
my
hometown
of
Hamilton,
Ontario
I,
was
on
the
early
committees
for
AODA.
You
guys
say:
CNIB
does
a
lot.
No,
they
do
nothing
for
people
like
me.
They
don't
help
us
with
jobs.
Don't
help
us
with
accessibility.
They
won't
even
help
us
get
accessible
resources
for
a
city
living
in
a
city,
shelter.
So
there's
a
vast
aspect,
you've
forgotten
in
this
report,
and
that
is
the
homeless.
J
The
people
who
are
at
the
bottom
of
the
rung
for
housing,
the
people
who
are
begging
to
get
somewhere
to
live,
that
safe,
doesn't
break
a
$20,000
wheelchair
that
ODSP
have
now,
as
of
yesterday,
actually
actually,
as
as
of
yesterday,
have
cut
funding
in
half
for
I'm
sitting
in
a
brand
new
wheelchair
and
I
fought
for
over
a
year
for
this
chair.
No
thanks
to
the
city.
J
I
just
want
to
tell
you
that
if
you
think
you're
reaching
everywhere
with
this
report
and
if
you
think
you're
covering
even
80%
of
the
issues
in
this
city
for
accessibility
you're,
not
we
have
elevators
in
this
building
that
were
out
for
weeks
and
may
still
be
out
of
service.
I
avoid
that
elevator.
Now
you
have
trains
that
are
an
inch
to
two
inches
high
above
the
platform
so
plus
a
gap
that
breaks
wheelchairs.
J
I
just
want
to
thank
Kristyn
wong-tam
because
she's,
an
inspiration
for
me
and
many
disabled
women
and
I
want
to
thank
also
the
committee
that
have
worked
very
hard
on
this
I'm.
Sorry
to
bring
you
down
a
few
pegs.
But
let's
put
it
this
way
when
you're,
legally
blind
in
a
wheelchair
hearing
impaired.
What
do
you
do?
We
were
denied
the
accessible
room
at
this
shelter,
well,
what
they
called
accessible
17
times,
while
we
were
in
this
shelter,
because
staff
didn't
want
to
deal
with
us.
A
J
The
biggest
thing
if
you've
got
a
disabled
person
that
has
to
travel
an
hour
and
a
half
each
way
from
Scarborough
just
to
eat
and
who
get
attacked
on
the
SRT,
because
they're,
disabled
and
bus
drivers,
a
pole
tricks
to
avoid
wheelchairs
deal
with
it,
don't
make
fuss,
have
to
fight
our
way
and
beg
Fiona
crane
for
help
we're
losing
her
in
November
and
I'll.
Tell
you
this
now
we're
losing
a
huge
champion
for
the
disabled.
A
A
Coming
back
to
the
the
city
staff
report
on
the
upgraded
or
the
updated,
or
soon
to
be
updated,
Toronto
accessibility,
guidelines
I
recognize
that
this
is
a
body
of
legend.
This
is
a
guideline
that
the
city
had
originally
incorporated
and
adopted
in
2004.
The
staff
have
identified
it
as
a
living
report
quote-unquote,
and
they
expect
it
to
evolve.
I
think
that
we
all
hope
that
it
would
evolve.
There
were
deputy
ins
that
spoke
today
that
talked
about
the
actual
enforcement
of
this.
A
K
Thanks
again,
Stephen
and
Joseph
for
for
updating
us
on
this
I.
Do
wonder,
though,
if
we
are
interested
in
reading
the
details
of
the
specifics,
you
know
standards
and
guidelines.
I
understand
you've
mentioned
CNIB
being
present.
However,
I
was
one
of
them
and
I
do
know
that.
Sometimes
you
know
not
all
the
meetings.
I,
don't
know.
K
You
know
that
someone
from
the
blind
and
partially
sighted
community,
so
it
is
to
our
interest,
the
blind
and
partially
sighted
to
really
look
at
how
information
and
communication
accessibility
is,
is
you
know
being
put
in
there
and
you
mentioned
wayfinding
and
that
that
is
a
you
know,
specific
interest
of
mine.
So
if
I
were
to
look
at
wanting
to
look
at
some
of
the
specific
standards
before
it's
all
approved,
and
is
there
any
way
to
get
at
them.
F
The
committee
is
also
growing.
Some
organizations
have
expressed
interest
to
join
in
and
participate
in
providing
feedback,
and
at
some
point,
when
we
get
to
a
stage
of
90%,
we
will
reach
out
to
the
public
and
make
the
concise
consolidated
document
available
for
a
review
currently
right
now
the
document
exists
in
text
in
graphic
format
and
the
75%
stage
will
be
merging
the
two
documents
and
dealing
with
the
graphics
and
all
the
accessibility
features
that
the
document
must
have.
F
C
Touching
it
that's
that
thanks
comment,
I
would
for
deaf
hard
of
hearing
population
and
one
who
presented
earlier,
whose
name
escapes
me.
My
question
is
the
guidelines
of
how
things
in
there
for
access
bring
in
deaf
people
so,
for
example,
being
rooms?
Are
they
FM?
Do
they
have
FM
capability
at
service
desks?
Are
there?
Will
there
be
things
like
counter
loops
or
UB
duo's,
or
that
sort
of
thing
through.
G
A
E
I
would
say
is
that
we
are
building
our
capacity
to
deliver
this
service.
It's
a
fine
balance
of
getting
the
funding,
and
the
resources
in
place
group
is
highly
motivated
to
get
trapped
by
making
sure
that
the
the
funding
and
the
resources
are
brought
to
bear
that
effect.
We're
working
closely
with
the
DC
office,
the
financial
support
to
align
those
resources
and
funds.
Thank.
C
D
Have
been
in
touch
with
the
city
in
regards
to
the
centralized
access
for
supportive
housing
and
I
know
that
they
are
currently
working
on
like
collaborative
projects,
so
that
people
with
multiple
disabilities
can
actually
have
like
safe,
affordable,
accessible
housing
and
I.
Just
wanted
to
say
here
today
that
if
there
are
meetings
in
regards
to
that,
because
I've
been
in
touch
with
city
staff.
About
that
previously.
That
I'd
like
to
throw
my
hat
in
the
ring
to
help
with
those
projects
as
well
and.
A
You
very
much
are
there
any
other
speakers
today,
okay
I
was
just
speaking
very
quickly
to
it
and
I
recognize
that
we've
taken
some
time.
I
also
know
that
this
was
a
very
important
item
that
the
committee
was
waiting
for
for
for
an
update,
I
read
the
city
drop
way
has
led
the
province
with
the
stability
of
my
making
sure
mine
lines
were
in
place
in
early
early
on
and
before
the
adoption
of
the
AODA.
A
However,
I
think
that
there
is
room
for
improvement
and
I
would
say.
The
room
for
improvement
is
not
just
a
little
bit
of
room
for
improvement,
but
a
sizable
amount
of
space
is
available
for
improvement.
The
frustration
I
think
that
that
that
I
sense
from
the
committee
members
is
that
this
connection
between
the
policy
adoption
to
the
execution
and
implementation
of
policy
and,
of
course,
public
awareness
and
education
as
I
see
the
province
struggle
to
ensure
that
the
AODA
is
actually
a
legislation
is
going
to
be
enforced.
A
If
we're
going
to
force
our
agencies
to
to
think
about
accessibility,
to
live
and
breathe
accessibility
in
terms
of
service
provision,
then
we
must
lead,
and
so
with
that
I
will
move
to
adopt
the
report
and
thank
staff
for
the
work
that
they've
done,
but
also
the
work
that
they
will
do
with
more
vigor
and
and
more
passion
as
they
move
forward
all
in
favor
of
adopting
receiving
the
report.
Okay,
so
so
received.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
L
Everyone
thank
you
for
having
me
here
today.
My
name
is
Matt
Hague
and
I'm,
a
senior
accessibility
planner
at
the
TTC
and
so
I'm
here
at
the
request
of
the
committee
to
briefly
go
for
our
2015
accessibility
plan
status,
report
and
I
know,
there's
a
time
constraint,
and
so
this
won't
take
more
than
about
ten
minutes
and
then
we'll
have
time
for
questions.
So,
for
some
background
are
our
most
recent
multi-year
accessibility
plan
under
the
AODA
covers
the
years
2014
to
2018,
and
this
committee
received
that
report
last
year.
L
L
So
I'll
briefly
go
over
some
of
the
objectives
that
we
committed
to
for
2014
in
each
of
the
four
areas
previously
mentioned:
four
stations
and
facilities.
We
reviewed
our
design
standards
and
implemented
changes
based
on
some
of
the
new
AODA
requirements
that
Steve
and
Joseph
we're
talking
about
previously,
and
we
also
opened
two
more
accessible
subway
stations,
Dufferin
and
Lawrence
West,
those
both
opened
in
November
and
December.
L
L
L
There
were
several
customer
service
initiatives
that
we
committed
to
for
2014,
where
we
installed
new
priority
seating
decals
on
all
TTC
vehicles,
in
compliance
with
the
AODA,
and
we
also
launched
a
new
public
education
campaign
and
introduced
new
blue
priority
seating
in
these
areas.
The
blue
seats
are
in
place
on
many
of
our
vehicles,
but
that's
still
in
progress,
and
we
do
expect
to
complete
that
over
the
next
year
we
also
started
to
introduce
new
wayfinding
signage
in
some
of
our
subway
stations.
You
might
have
seen
these
at
bluer
young
and
st.
L
George
featuring
the
large
new
colorful
line
numbers,
but
also
more
signs
pointing
the
way
to
elevators
and
other
accessible
routes
and
based
on
the
feedback
we
received.
We
will
be
going
forward
with
implementing
these
signs
at
other
stations.
Union
Station
does
another
where,
with
the
recent
renovations,
it
will
have
the
new
signage
throughout
when
it's
complete.
L
So
that's
the
objectives
we
completed
in
2014,
as
mentioned,
we
do
have
22
more
objectives
planned
for
2015
to
2018
and
I'll.
Give
you
a
brief
summary
of
some
of
the
more
major
planned
initiatives.
We
plan
to
complete
easier
access,
accessibility
upgrades,
including
elevators,
at
9
additional
stations
right
now.
Four
of
those
stations
are
under
construction,
that's
Coxwell,
woodbine,
Ossington
and
st.
Clair
West.
L
We
will
be
implementing
a
real-time
elevator,
an
escalator
monitoring
system,
and
the
idea
here
is
that
will
reduce
downtime
from
unplanned
outages,
because
now
we
will
know
immediately
whenever
an
elevator
or
escalator
stock
stops
functioning.
Instead
of
waiting
for
somebody
to
have
to
report
that
to
us,
we
will
be
installing
external
route
announcements
on
all
our
vehicles.
If
anyone
has
taken
one
of
the
new
low
floor
street
cars,
you
might
have
heard
the
streetcar
talks
to
you
on
the
outside.
It
tells
you
what
the
route
is.
L
L
L
Also
in
2014,
we
created
new
travel
training
materials.
These
are
available
on
our
website
or
by
calling
customer
service,
or
if
anybody
wants
to
leave
me,
their
contact
information
I
can
get
those
out
to
you
and
on
screen
is
the
cover
of
that
handbook
and
there's
also
PowerPoint
presentation
that
complements
the
handbook
for
any
organizations
that
might
wish
to
train
their
clients
using
the
book
we
also
improved
our
accessibility.
L
Training
for
TTC
staff
last
year
and
on
screen
is
just
an
image
of
our
booklet
that
we
are
distributing
to
all
staff
called
helping
customers
with
disabilities,
and
we
also
worked
on
a
standardizing
our
streetcar
platform
design.
This
is
a
design
that
has
ample
room
for
customers
who
use
mobility
devices,
but
also
safety
features
for
customers
with
vision
impairments
such
as
eye.
We're
now
going
to
be
adding
truncated,
dome
tactile,
walking
indicators
at
the
ramp
tend
to
the
platform,
so
you
know
when
you're
exiting
and
you've
reached
the
street.
L
A
M
M
Progress
has
been
made
by
the
TTC
is
very
commendable
under
the
leadership
of
the
Commission
and
Andy
Byford.
Much
can
be
said
for
the
accomplishments
made
around
accessibility,
but
I
think
we
can
also
agree.
There's
much
work
still
to
do
and
we
at
mv-1
Canada
see
ourselves
as
part
of
a
solution
I'm
made
in
Toronto
solution
that
accelerates
steps
towards
improving
accessibility
in
the
city.
I
note
that
the
Commission
itself
wanted
to
improve
performance
standards
to
further
advance
telephone
trip
bookings.
Our
advice
relates
to
that
specific
item
as
well.
M
Telephone
trip
bookings
are
a
function
of
the
need
of
users
to
access
their
services
most
readily
and
efficiently.
We
note
that
these
services
offered
to
those
eligible
require
capacity
to
deliver
the
services.
I've
heard
anecdotally
that
there
are
many
people
that
cannot
readily
access
services
exactly
when
they
need
them,
and
this
means
that
there
can
be
many
disappointed
people
and
the
bookings
and
tommy's
don't
allow
for
the
necessary
flexibility
to
provide
this
service.
Well,
a
significant
number
of
people
are
served.
We
believe
with
the
right
type
of
vehicle.
M
M
So
I'm
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
the
passion
that
I
have
about
a
certain
of
the
product.
The
mv-1
I
helped
conceive
this
product
many
many
years
ago
with
a
former
TTC
staff
or
actually
a
superintendent
money
of
you
might
have
been
around
and
worked
with.
Bob
Thacker
this
via
the
the
the
intention
of
designing
these
of
this
new
type
of
vehicle,
was
to
actually
service
all
accessible
needs
and,
as
mr.
M
Parker
pointed
out,
when
we
build
out
our
environment,
if
we
can't
get
there,
it
is
not
it's
not
truly
accessible,
I'm,
not
trying
to
sell
a
vehicle
I'm
trying
to
make
everyone
understand.
This
is
the
reason
that
I
get
up
in
the
morning.
I
do
these
types
of
presentations
across
the
country,
but
this
is
the
city
in
which
I
live.
I
do
many
things
to
make
a
living,
and
this
is
just
one
of
them.
M
My
job
is
to
create
the
culture
of
accessibility,
and
this
was
one
of
my
first
projects
to
design
a
vehicles
specifically
for
the
need
for
the
needs
of
people
with
who
use
wheelchairs
and
the
family
caregivers
alike.
My
point
is
Universal.
Design
is
the
as
the
next
terminology
that
I
believe
we
all
as
again
to
build
the
culture
of
accessibility.
M
The
lot
of
the
standards
that
are
set
by
Transport
Canada
are
lowered
after
vehicles
are
modified.
We
believe
that
again
through
Universal
Design,
things
need
to
be
the
forethought,
not
the
afterthought,
and
this
this
type
of
vehicle
again
the
mv-1
meets
all
standards
of
the
Canadian
motor
vehicle
safety
standards
and
was
built
for
one
purpose,
and
one
purpose
only
and
we
deserve
this.
Our
confidence
and
universal
design
offers
a
better
reliability,
a
longer
vehicle
life,
enhanced
safety
and,
most
importantly,
a
peace
of
mind.
M
Now,
let's
literally
Park,
no
pun
of
every
pun,
intended
the
mv-1
and
focus
on
how
this
relates
to
our
to
our
documents.
Today,
first
off
I
want
to
issue
a
challenge
to
everybody.
I've
done
this
with
a
few
counselors
that
I've
met
over
the
years,
mainly
here
in
Toronto,
we
have
a
certain
type
of
bus
that
works
for
the
TTC.
It's
called
the
Ford
elf
and
I
notice.
I
know
this,
and
this
is
my
challenge
is
if
we
pay
attention
to
watching
these
buses
roll
across
our
city,
I
believe
there's
206
of
them.
M
M
M
A
M
B
A
H
A
H
H
H
There
was
a
simple
tool:
holder,
Merced,
sorry,
I
lost
minutes.
The
public
education
should
also
be,
but
the
people
like
me
at
the
bottom
of
the
skillet
accessible
to
help,
but
most
people
don't
think
it's
an
accessibility
issue,
TDC
staffs.
You
get
a
training,
and
you
know
that
about
this
about
six
months
ago,
six
months
ago,
I
go
kick
that
out
of
the
front
of
the
bus,
and
ride
told
me
to
get
to
get
the
F
out
of
of
his
bus,
because
I
refuse
to
move
from
the
front.
Because
that's
what
were
they
put?
H
A
J
Be
able
to
see
it,
so
that's,
okay,
one
quick
thing:
a
couple
of
things:
quick
things
the
biggest
hindrance
to
those
of
us
in
wheelchairs
and
disabilities,
getting
back
on
and
getting
on
the
conventional
system
and
avoiding
wheel.
Transyl
I
do
I,
don't
like
taking
real
trans
I,
don't
like
booking
more
days
five
days,
I,
don't
like
booking
my
life
five
days
in
advance.
J
I
will
tell
you
an
incident
on
drivers,
attitude,
sucks,
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
you
take
the
regular
conventional
buses
and
have
seen
a
bus
passed
by
a
wheelchair
on
their
way
or
have
seen
drivers,
attitude
who
say.
Oh
my
ramps
broken
then
refused
to
physically
deploy
it,
even
though
they
most
of
the
buses
have
the
j-hooks.
J
The
elevators
at
Kennedy
are
severely
under
sized
and
battling
my
way
through
the
SRT
and
the
Kennedy
or
to
Kennedy
is
extremely
terrifying
and
mine,
absolutely
mind-numbing
people
when
you're
in
a
wheelchair
and
you're
on
the
subway
or
somewhere.
They
have
no
qualms
about
hitting
you
to
get
you
out
of
their
way
or
not
getting
out
of
your
way
and
running
in
front
of
you
onto
the
elevator,
and
you
don't
be
able
to
get
on
on
average.
J
It
takes
me
15
minutes
to
transfer
between
the
SRT
and
the
subway
at
Kennedy,
back
to
Friday
night
I
went
to
get
on
in
Macao,
and
my
husband
was
with
me:
we'd
come
out
of
the
movie,
put
my
friends
on
their
bus
to
go
home
and
we
went
to
eight
from
McAllen
11:30
at
night,
McAllen
bus
pulls
up
driver
says
his
ramp
is
broken.
I
asked
him
if
he
has
a
j-hook.
He
says.
J
Oh,
what's
that
I
go
look
behind
your
jacket
on
yours
in
your
little
panel
behind
your
seat,
there's
a
strange-looking
thing
with
a
piece
of
foam
at
one
end
that
looks
like
a.j,
he
claimed
he
couldn't
find
it
so
I
said
fine.
Please
call
your
supervisor
mind
you.
This
is
11:30
at
night
my
husband
I
are
both
legally
blind
I'm.
Also,
a
woman
in
a
wheelchair
wheel.
Trans
will
want
four
hours
notice
for
a
ride
and
that's
if
you
can
get
the
ride
and
it's
11
after
11
o'clock,
so
I
can't
book
a
ride.
J
Sighs
I,
don't
call
your
supervisor.
Apparently
he
called
the
supervisor
and
asked
his
supervisor
to
call
wheel
Tran,
so
I
could
get
a
ride
home.
He
refused
supervisor
refused.
They
told
me
to
call.
Will
trans
I
said
how
am
I
gonna
get
a
ride
to
live
in
30
at
night
at
wheel,
trans
in
a
very
nervous
situation,
I
had
my
foot
just
inside
just
up
over
the
ramp,
because
I
didn't
want
him
pulling
away
quickly.
J
I've
been
told
by
TTC
staff
that
that's
the
safest
way
to
not
let
a
bus
driver
take
off
without
calling
a
supervisor.
Well,
he
closed
his
doors
on
my
feet.
I
kid
you
not
I
didn't
call
an
ambulance
because
the
ambulance
can't
take
my
wheelchair.
They
can
take
me
on
my
wheelchair
and
it's
not
an
blood
situation.
J
Yes,
I
have
bruised
toes
for
a
week
or
two.
Yes,
my
spasms
are
worse.
Yes,
the
pain
is
worse
because
of
the
doors
hitting
my
feet,
but
that's
not
really
going
to
the
Osmel
I
have
bus
drivers
who
are
on
the
Lawrence
East
and
on
other
routes
to
avoid
a
wheelchair.
If
you're
standing
at
the
stop
by
yourself,
they
see
you
have
a
block
ahead.
Beep
beep
beep
there's
a
little
sign
above
their
head,
but
the
bus
serves
Emily
just.
J
A
Thank
you,
Emily.
Are
there
any
questions
for
Emily?
No
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
If
I
can
have
Matt
Hey.
Are
there
any
other
speakers
to
this
item?
No
okay!
Thank
you
very
much,
Matt
see
if
you
can
come
back
to
the
front
of
the
room.
I
recognize
that
the
TTC
is
is
something
that
many
of
us
have
big
discussions
on,
and
you
will
probably
receive
a
number
of
questions
from
this
committee.
First
from
Tracy
Odell.
C
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
report
update
I,
really
like
the
way
that
the
report
was
laid
out.
It
was
very
clear
about
what
was
done
and
what
wasn't
done,
and
it's
not
very
often
you
see
a
report
coming
out
of
any
level
of
government
where
they're
willing
to
admit
they
didn't
quite
meet
a
deadline
or
didn't
quite
do
something
when
they
hoped
that
they
would
do
it
so
commendations
for
transparency
on
that
one.
L
So
the
this
2015
plan
is
an
update
on
that
2014
plan.
I
should
have
mentioned
this
in
the
presentation.
I
guess
the
better
news,
maybe
not
good
news-
is
that
instead
of
17
subway
stations,
unfunded
we're
now
down
to
13
subway
stations,
unfunded
in
the
2015
budget,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
that
quite
answers,
your
question.
But
yes,
it
is
an
update
on
that
2014
plan
to.
L
A
C
C
Thank
you
very
much,
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
can
answer
this
or
not,
because
it
just
may
not
be
a
department
that
you're
responsible
for
the
the
previous
deputy
made
some
allegations
around
the
the
treatment
of
passengers
on
on
the
new,
accessible
buses
and
I'm.
Just
wondering
is
that
something
that
we've
heard
more
frequently
about?
Is
there?
Are
there
statistics
about
how
the
new
buses
and
vehicles
are
working
for
for
the
community,
or
is
this
something
we're
not
we're
not
tracking
how
or
how
would
I
get
that
information?
Okay,.
L
Our
customer
service
department
does
track
complaints
by
category,
and
so
they
would
have
that
kind
of
information.
I
did
ask
for
information
on
the
ramp
deployments
earlier
this
year,
actually
over
the
past
several
years,
and
they
did
tell
me
that
the
number
of
complaints
about
ramps
not
working
had
steadily
decreased
and
that
was
a
result
of
drivers
ensuring
they
operate
them
at
the
start
of
the
day
and
making
sure
that
the
maintenance
crews
cleaned
them
out
properly,
but
that's
not
to
say
that
this
doesn't
still
happen.
L
A
C
I
get
heard
that
some
of
the
locations
weren't
very
accessible
in
terms
of
having
a
long
distance
for
people
to
go
from
the
site
where
they're
interviewed
to
out
on
the
street
on
the
sidewalk
I.
Wonder
if
there's
a
review
of
all
those
sites-
and
you
know
the
configuration
of
them
to
make
sure
that
the
sites
are
very
user
friendly
and
that
when
you
know
the
front
door
is
close
to
the
pavement
where
they
go
to
get
their
ride
and
inside
they
don't
have
to
go.
You
know,
too
far
in
the
building.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much.
Any
other
questions
regarding
the
report
before
us.
I
actually
have
two
quick
questions
for
you.
In
the
2015
budget,
your
original
2015
budget.
There
was
a
hundred
and
sixty-five
million
dollar
shortfall
to
bring
39
outstanding
stations
to
full
accessibility.
In
your
report
today,
I
I
don't
see
those
the
numbers
in
such
clarity.
Are
there
still
39
stations
that
are
not
accessible.
L
A
L
A
K
Of
all,
thank
you
very
much
for
providing
documents
that
are
truly
accessible
for
the
first
time.
A
lot
of
your
photos-
and
you
know,
graphics-
are
described
which
is
really
rare.
So
thank
whoever
did
that
and
I
do
want
to
just
reiterate
that
when
the
consultation
happens
when,
for
the
re-examining
of
the
criterias
for
four-wheel
trance,
please
consider
having
people
with
diverse
disabilities
on
they're,
often
the
blind
and
partially
sighted
are
excluded
from
squeal
trans
service.
For
whatever
reason
I
know,
some
of
us
are
very
independent.
K
We
think
we
don't
need
wheel
trends,
but
that
is
not
the
same
for
all
all
blind
and
partially
sighted,
especially
those
with
dual
sensory
and
disabilities,
so
just
maybe
make
sure
that
the
public
gets
over.
The
wider
consultation
happens.
So
it's
not
just
a
cat.
You
know
just
so
that
we
can
have
opportunity
for
input.
Thanks.
D
So
that's
been
tricky
for
me,
so
I
just
wanted
to
flag
that
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
was
that
I
did
see
that
you
listed
accessible,
stops
and
non-accessible
stops
for
buses,
and
what
I
find
is
that
I
can
use
all
stops
some
of
the
time
and
sometimes
I
can't
use
all
stops
because,
like
the
driver
will,
even
though
they
could
potentially
stop
and
I,
there
is
enough
space
to
let
the
ramp
out.
They'll
say:
oh
sorry,
this
stops
not
accessible.
D
D
A
A
I
recognize
that
there's
a
lot
of
competing
needs
at
the
City
of
Toronto
when
it
comes
to
transportation
and
especially
as
it
comes
to
ensuring
that
our
public
transit
system,
our
mass
transit
system,
is
fully
accessible.
I
think
that
there
has
been
times
where
council
has
been
able
to,
and
city
staff
has
been
able
to.
A
A
We
are
seven
minutes
from
our
original
stop
time
and
just
to
be
clear
that
when
I
had
given
my
chairs
report,
I'd
said
that
we
would
extend
the
meeting
for
two
and
a
half
hours,
so
hopefully,
everyone's
still
feeling
good
you've
got
thirty.
Five
minutes
to
go.
I
know
that
we
can
complete
the
balance
of
the
agenda.
Okay,
so
again
we're
still
in
informal
proceedings.
A
I
You,
my
name,
is
Gerald
Parker
I'm
from
the
Institute
of
Canadian
justice,
I'm,
its
executive
director
I'm,
a
former
member
of
the
TTC,
a
cotton
former
original
chair
of
the
Toronto
Police
Services
accessibility
committee,
and
the
list
goes
on
and
on
and
on
I'm
here
to
speak
to
you
about.
What's
in
a
name
because
it's
really
really
important.
I
If
we
two
go
to
the
fundamental
documents
of
our
country
and
that
being
the
Charter,
we
would
speak
about
negative
and
positive
freedom,
the
freedom
to
expression,
the
freedom
from
arbitrary
detainment,
the
freedom
to
safety
and
liberty
of
person
and
the
freedom
from
discrimination,
freedom
to
freedom
from
positive
and
negative
freedom.
It's
very
very
important
because
it
colors
our
our
legislative
and
our
legal
processes
to
which
you
are
one
of
them.
The
first
thing
that
I
would
say
is
all
of
much
is
in
a
name.
Very
much
is
in
a
name
but
I.
I
Also
before
I
get
started
want
to
say.
In
our
last
meeting
we
spoke
of
the
loss
of
Helen,
Henderson
and
Barbara
Turnbull's
passing
since
then.
So
I
want
to
give
an
to
Barbara
and
thank
her
for
all
her
work
and
the
undying
work
of
the
10%
of
us
that
do
90%
of
the
work
so
without
being
said,
a
name
in
the
largest
city,
the
first
province
in
the
last
developed
country
in
the
OECD
to
be
engaged
in
meaningful
accessibility,
planning,
engagement
and
inclusion
is
really
really
important.
What's
in
a
name?
Well,
it's
the
quintessential
message.
I
It's
your
mission
statement.
It's
the
urgency
of
your
cause,
your
leadership,
your
priorities!
Are
you
a
committee
of
council?
Are
you
a
reactive
or
proactive?
Are
you
reflective,
timely
and
inclusive?
Do
you
lead
or
a
force
to
follow
plan
or
react
set
the
tone
consulted
before
or
after
it's
all
in
a
name?
It
really
is
so
this
is
about
your
purpose.
This
is
about
your
reputation,
and
this
is
about
your
operational
tonality.
I
It
is
very
important
because
much
lip
service
has
been
given
and
when
I'm
before
Toronto
Police
Services
two-and-a-half
years
before
our
matters
brought
to
this
committee
three
months
after
implementation.
That's
on
the
front
pages
of
today's
Metro
news.
We
have
to
do
better,
so
positive
freedom,
freedom
to
safety
and
liberty,
negative
freedom,
freedom
from
discrimination,
it's
about
the
operational
tonality
and
I.
Thank
the
planning
department
is
speaking
to
that.
Are
you
well
resourced?
I
Are
you
being
resourced
and
are
you
being
respect
did
and
in
your
mission
and
in
your
name?
That
is
reflected?
Do
you
understand
the
social
determinants
of
health,
as
the
deputy
mayor
said
last
time
around?
Do
you
understand
that,
in
that
verbage,
and
in
that
dedication
and
tone,
tonality
of
your
name,
you
speak
to
that?
Those
social
determinants
is
the
name
in
a
word
or
in
an
action.
Does
it
demand
accessibility,
Zin
2025,
when
2020
20
2015?
Sorry,
when
2025
is
a
joke,
TTC
telling
you
that
they
have
no
money
is
not
an
excuse
anymore.
I
It's
a
political
priority
and
I
say
chair
far
too
much
discretion.
Your
points
well-taken,
though,
does
it
speak
to
your
timely
engagement.
Before
or
after
are
you
a
committee
of
council,
not
an
advisory
committee?
You
are
a
committee
of
council.
Does
the
name
speak
to
your
passion
for
change
and
inclusion?
Does
it
represent
the
committee's
transcending
mandatory
engagement,
as
required
under
the
provincial
statue
and
based
in
human
rights
in
the
Charter
and
the
inclusion
of
those
that
so
are
made
so
vulnerable?
Does
it
reflect
your
personal
safety,
the
largest
city
first
province
last
country?
I
Does
it
reflect
2025
and
the
2015
reality
it's
ten
years
away?
We
want
it.
What
is
in
a
name?
Well,
it's
so
so
so
much
so
this
is
my
recommendation
to
you.
Have
the
committee
for
access
to
inclusion,
the
Toronto
Committee
for
access
to
inclusion,
you're
not
going
to
deny
as
accessibility
anymore
in
a
negative
sense
and
discriminatory
offense,
but
you
are
going
to
engages
in
the
positive
freedom
to
inclusion.
I
A
A
Was
a
question
to
Bernie
Taupin
answer
so
I
know
that
there
was,
if
I'm,
just
gonna
to
vary
the
the
proceedings,
but
ever
so
slightly
we
have
had
the
disabilities
issues.
Committee
now
has
a
has
a
stream
of
email
discussions.
I
think
are
probably
several
hundred
long,
and
this
is
now
an
item
that
has
been
discussed
offline
by
members
for
some
time.
A
I
will
allow
for
more
discussion,
I
think
if,
if
the
discussion
still
needs
to
be
had
failing
seeing
any
other
needs
for
discussion,
I
would
suggest
that
we
start
moving
to
a
vote
unless
there
are
motions
to
add
another
proposed
name
to
our
list.
That's
before
us,
seeing
none
I
think
the
way
we're
going
to
cast
this
vote
and
just
to
remind
people
why
we
wanted
to
change.
A
The
name
is
that
there
was
passion
and
desire
from
the
committee
to
ensure
that
the
the
name
of
this
committee
was
to
be
representative
much
of
what
we
do
and
there
was
all
sorts
of
robustus
discussions
about
whether
or
not
it
needed
to
have
the
words
accessibility
in
it
as
well,
and
a
range
of
other
words
such
as
inclusion.
So
these
are
the
five
names
proposed
names
for
the
new
committee
that
were
that
were
finalized
and
I'm.
Just
going
to
ask
the
clerk
to
put
them
on
the
screen.
A
I
am
going
to
read
them
and
they
will
be.
They
are
also
itemized
afterwards.
I
will
ask
you
to
show
by
hand
or
vibe
urbanization
your
support
for
the
name
and
I
will
only
at
that
point
in
time,
identify
them
by
the
number.
Once
again
so
the
first
time,
I'm
gonna
read
them
number
plus
the
title
of
the
proposed
title
of
the
committee
and
then
followed
by
a
vote
based
on
the
number
okay,
hopefully
that's
clear
so
number
one
disabilities
and
accessibility,
Advisory,
Committee
I'm,
going
to
read
them
all.
A
A
A
Committee,
okay,
so
we
have
a
new
name
for
the
committee.
I
would
suggest
that
we
all
vote
unanimously
to
support
the
name
of
this
committee,
so
all
those
in
favor
of
a
unanimous
vote
for
this
new
name
for
our
committee.
Please
raise
your
hand,
okay,
so
let
it
be
recorded
that
the
vote
was
unanimous.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
have
an
committee
name.
This
is
good,
okay,
so
moving
along,
we
now
have
item
number
five,
which
has
actually
been
before
us
before
and
I.
A
Actually,
with
the
indulgence
of
the
committee,
I
actually
have
a
motion,
and
this
motion
is
simply
to
revert
to
refer.
The
2015
2018
work
plan
summary
back
to
the
chair
to
be
brought
back
to
the
to
our
disabilities
issues
committee,
soon
to
be
known
as
the
disabilities,
access
and
inclusion
Advisory
Committee
for
discussion
before
the
end
a
year
end
and
the
reason
I'm
doing.
That
is
simply
because
we
will
have
a
new
committee
at
that
point
in
time
and
I
thought
be
best
that
we
don't
commit
them
to
a
work
plan
from
the
existing
committee.
A
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
okay,
so
moved
and
adopted.
Thank
you
very
much
and
item
number
six,
which
is
actually
a
letter
from
myself
and
this
letter
was
properly
introduced
and
it
did
receive
notice
and
there
are
two
speakers
on
the
item.
The
item
is
regarding
accessible
pedestrian,
crossovers,
Jonathan,
wood
and
miroslav
glove.
Ik
Jonathan
wood
is,
are
you
here?
Okay?
Thank
you.
Jonathan.
N
Very
much
I'm
not
sure
what
the
committee
has
in
front
of
them.
As
far
as
the
background
err
to
this
deposition.
Hopefully
it's
the
one
I
submitted,
if
not
I'll,
just
briefly
and
go
over
it
for
you,
so
in
December
of
2012
I
sent
an
email
to
my
counselor
I'm
in
Ward,
30,
Paula
Fletcher,
regarding
what
constituted
the
or
how
a
crosswalk
could
be
designated
as
accessible
since
the
majority
of
the
crosswalks
that
I'm
familiar
with
or
not.
N
This
was
a
proposed
crosswalk,
accessible
crosswalk
that
was
going
to
be
implemented
at
the
same
time
as
Bridgepoint
health
at
the
corner
of
Victor
and
Broadview.
That
subsequently
was
reneged
on
I
guess
at
the
behest
of
the
neighborhood,
who
put
up
a
fuss
about
too
much
traffic
again.
I
didn't
know
about
this,
and
so
I
was
still
waiting
for
a
response
from
the
city.
N
N
My
question
to
the
committee
is
why
there
isn't
any
policy
in
place
to
make
crosswalks
accessible
for
the
visually
impaired
and
what
a
solution
might
be
and
I
recognize
that
our
stretch
of
road
might
be
unique
in
the
downtown
core
and
that
there
are
no
interact
intersections
in
that
stretch,
but
is
the
expectation
that
my
son
has
to
walk
a
full
kilometer
before
you
can
cross
the
street
safely?
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
A
Know
that
the
opportunity
here
is
to
ask
questions
to
the
deputy
and
who
people
appeared
before
us.
The
deputies
are
to
speak
to
the
item.
That
is
on
the
agenda.
If
you
need
to
ask
questions
to
mr.
wood
to
clarify
any
of
his
comments,
this
would
be
a
good
time
for
that
and
then
to
speak
to
the
item
is
afterwards:
okay,
so
Monica
questions
to
our
deputy
and
my.
N
I
live
on
Langley,
which
is
a
block
north
of
Victor.
Okay,
there
is
a
crosswalk
at
the
foot
of
Langley
and
Broadview.
What
am
I
response
from
the
city
was
originally.
It
was
that,
with
the
building
of
bridge
point
health,
there
was
going
to
be
an
accessible
crosswalk
built
at
Victor
and
Broadview,
and
therefore,
because
of
the
proximity
there
wasn't
going
to
be
one
built
where
I
had
asked
them
to
build
one
again.
That
crosswalk
was
never
built.
N
A
H
H
H
Pedestrian
crossings
in
downtown
versus,
let's
say
scarpered.
The
suburbs
like
are
completely
different
and
not
done
everything's
since
putting
together
inscriber
in
its
cover.
I,
don't
know
if
you
live
in
a
suburbs,
especially
scrubber
the
when
you
go
young
and
done
there's
to
go
from
the
subway
station
in
the
southwest
corner
to
the
southeast
corner.
H
When
you
get
to
cross,
it's
called
the
sidewalks
go
down
and
like
this
in
Scarborough,
there's
a
little.
You
know
you
know
when
they're
high
in
there
and
then
I'll
fully
accessible.
So
people
like
my
brother,
who's,
who's,
low
vision.
It
has
a
problem
telling
what
I
did
I
work
at
my
at
the
building,
where
my
workers
we
have
strips,
you
know
the
subway
that
little
yellow
bump
things
at
the
edge
of
every
doorway.
It
costs
a
lot
of
money.
Making
the
city
accessible
is
expensive,
but
I
need
an
expense.
H
You
need
different
things,
not
certain
ABC
won't
work
for
somebody
else,
and
then
there's
the
EF
and
so
forth
is
just
an
alternative
about
60%
of
my
co-workers
and
I
have
some
kind
of
visual
low
vision
and
we
made
it
work
cost
a
lot
of
money,
but
at
the
end,
my
building,
I'm,
proud
to
say
it's
fully
accessible.
We
put
the
strip's
a
little
bumps
and
things
you
feel
when
you're
going
and
then
you
know
you
know
it's
different
different
doorway,
but
when
you
could
do
that
in
lower
depth,
you
know
that's
all.
Thank
you.
A
A
would
it
it
is
not
necessarily
different
from
what
the
staff
are
doing,
but
simply
because
we
wanted
to
highlight
that
there
was
this
ongoing
requirement
to
ensure
that
all
our
infrastructure
was
going
to
be
accessible
and
is
going
to
be
accessible.
So
that's
why
I
decoupled
it
and
inserted
into
the
letter,
but
it
really
is
actually
ongoing
in
terms
of
design
and
explorations
by
staff.
If
you
recall,
they
had
talked
about
making
sure
that
you
know
all
physical
infrastructure
was
can
be
accessible.
All
facilities
design
was
going
to
be
accessible.
A
So
the
disabilities
issues
committee,
with
our
new
name
is,
is
requesting
that
the
general
manager
of
transportation
services
provide
report
provide
a
report
to
the
disabilities
issues
committee
on
a
review
of
existent
measures
to
make
pedestrian
crossover
as
accessible
and
recommendations
to
exist,
blind
or
low
vision
residents
to
cross
safely
and
within
penance.
At
this
at
these
crossings,
if
there's
no
questions
of
the
mover,
then
I
would
ask
for
a
vote.
Oh
there's
a
question.
A
So,
after
the
words,
the
general
manager
of
Transportation
Services
in
consultation
with
stakeholders
provide
provide
a
report
to
the
disabilities
issues
committee
how's
that
okay,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
suggestion
all
in
favor,
please
raise
your
hand
or
verbalize
that,
yes,
okay,
so
that
is
adopted.
Thank
you
very
much.
That
brings
us
to
the
conclusion
of
our
meeting
and
Monica
I.
C
Just
realized
and
I
didn't
I'm.
Sorry,
I
didn't
notice
this
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
but
the
whole
bit
about
future
meetings
isn't
in
here
and
so
do
we
have
a
date
for
the
next
meeting
or
is
that
all
shut
down?
Now
because
the
the
committee
is
the
formation
of
the
new
committee
is
going
to
be
put
in
process
in
September.
A
A
No
I
think
you.
There
was
some
discussion
at
the
beginning
of
when
we
were
going
to
open
up
our
application
for
for
recruitment
and
because
this
process
is
being
managed.
Imagine
the
city
manager's
office
we've
been
advised
that
it
will
be
sort
of
pushed
back
a
little
bit,
but
I
do
think
it's
going
to
be
a
very
robust
and
and
a
good
and
open
transparent
process.
Thank
you.
There's
been
a
lot
of
interest
in
that
in
joining
this
committee,
which
is
great,
okay,
everyone.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
In
your
contributions.
A
Oh
yes,
actually
before
you
go
before
we
conclude
adjourn.
If
I
can
just
have
a
quick
I
will
move
to
to
adopt
the
chairs
report
just
to
receive
the
chairs
report,
all
those
in
favor,
please
raise
your
hand
or
verbalize
that
is
so
received
and
adopted.
Okay
meeting
concludes.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
don't
need
a
vote
on
that.