Unimatrix Communications Board, 9 Sep 2021

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From YouTube: Unimatrix CB call 09-09-2021

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Homepage: https://gitlab.com/unimatrix

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I'll just copy the email address uh that is in the system, so you can verify.

B

My email to this.

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Maybe it's okay, but I haven't received.

C

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The email is not in spam for that change.

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uh Could you could you please try to send uh email uh to my email address and the uh communication board mailing list.

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After this meeting.

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Let's, uh let's see so, you put out uh um an agenda um and if I um I can address the first point, which is the one that I send around, um I send a word document around.

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Maybe I can share my screen and we can. We can have a look at it. There.

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Yeah, you should be able to see a word document now.

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Yeah, I can't see okay.

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So this is, this is the basis of which I created the uh the website draft um and we discussed the last time uh and makotosan you. You made the the suggestion that we should include the about section um which, which I did so uh I mean there's, there's no changes in sort of the first part, but I included an about section um and and put in uh you know some text on that about. You know the short history, the the structure again link to the the jit lab.

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Describing the relationship between the the linux foundation and unimatrix and the mission- and I didn't include anything about the architecture, but I know that I received a drawing that you know would could potentially be be put in here.

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uh I actually sent this off to peer, just to be sure that that you know I I'm getting it all right and I think to get a little bit of feedback on the whole document um where, where peer is a little bit concerned, that the reference is to lino to to unimatics as an organization uh which, in effect it is not it's a project that is created uh so to go through the document to see actually a lot of the praise places.

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I do actually refer to to the unimatrix project, um so we just need to stay consistent on it, but other than that. uh There were not really any other comments, so that actually leaves the website to.

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Can you see.

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Do you see powerpoint now or do you still see the word document.

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The powerpoint.

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See the powerpoint okay.

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Excellent, so I expanded it with the structure. uh I spent the structure with the about section, um uh so in effect we would have like a complete website. uh You know with this uh with about. You know how to get involved. You know linking with with resources.

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Would be enough to get us off the ground so um since we we're also going to discuss the the option of having the linux foundation there, the website department built uh the website I didn't go. You know I didn't allocate any further time into the design or anything, but in terms of text and content.

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I think we have uh a lot of that in in place with this uh and my course, and I will um I'll try and resend the word document to you uh after the meeting. So you can, you can have a look.

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um So that's that's actually the how far uh I've gotten with the with the website. um You know making the uh you know, proposal for the text uh that needs a final review.

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And and soft design ish how it could look like this is based on pretty much a similar, similar structure that that uh other you know, projects I've done under the linux foundation, so it it. It would probably come close to what the department would suggest anyways, but um we will uh we'll we'll see about that.

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Yeah, so that's uh as far as it comes to to the messaging.

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I will leave you time, obviously after the meeting to to read through uh and- and we should- you know, obviously circulate this uh to a broader group meeting list for further comments, uh but I think we are close to actually having something that we can. We can move forward with in terms of the text.

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Any comments, or such I mean uh I assume you hadn't haven't had time to read through, um but in terms of the sections and so forth. uh Any comments to that.

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uh So uh jason, so uh maybe uh the uh your update is excellent and so.

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Maybe in this timing, so it's no need to create the uh detailed sentence or detailed layout now yeah at first, so this uh draft proposal should be uh circulated in the uni matrix members and and we should confirm uh the uh main direction is correct or not uh with the members, and so uh maybe uh the uh powerpoint and the document uh are uh okay, and so please upload the uh your documents to the git drop, and so after that, so I will make the question here and so, let's correct the opinions of the unimatrix members.

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So that's the uh first first point on the agenda.

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The second one period send out some information about the crowdfunding, uh maybe.

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Other thing there are related to the react foundation so therefore, so the main agenda is uh how we should uh communicate with the linux foundation and their development team. I think.

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Yes, so the proposal from the new foundation or the offer was that they, you know we we could use their uh in-house department for this, obviously with a cost, uh not not a requirement, but I would strongly you know, go with that suggestion um I I could not imagine they would be unreasonable in in their cost structure uh and as they rightly point out, you know they they have the finger on the pulse in terms of using it so yeah. We need to figure out uh how to communicate with them.

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um Whether it's um you know one person has a gateway or we set up a small team meeting with them. um I think, on a day-to-day basis, uh maybe we we should just have one person uh communicating with them uh and then we can discuss internally if there are any things that need to be clarified.

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So I think so, unfortunately, uh communication board is very small team, with some json and yamagidas and me and therefore so we may communicate uh with a.

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Linux foundation, foundation.

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By the uh old members, it's just in my opinion, so how do you feel.

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I'm okay with either way I mean, as you say, it's a small group.

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So I'm fine with that.

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We are four members and therefore so uh we will have a meeting with linux members.

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So, let's, uh let's get a meeting set up with uh the right resource.

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That peer pointed out.

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That's the next step.

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At first so maybe we should confirm how to proceed the oss project with linux foundation.

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We need to, we need a fund to make the web contents and therefore so.

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uh We we will prepare the we've already prepared. The uh draft.

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Proposal, therefore, so.

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We will confirm the way of creating the website with react foundation and how to proceed.

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The process crowdfunding and start developing the website in human expression 1.0, therefore, so at first so and overall, the proceeding process should be confirmed.

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Maybe liax foundation have a lot of oss projects. Therefore,.

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They may know the standard process to proceed. Such a project.

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Yes, so I'm not entirely sure what you're suggesting uh sending uh sending our materials to them asking how they would prefer to work with us or.

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At first so person is communicating with the linux foundation.

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Therefore, so we ask him to confirm, uh reacts, foundations, uh thinking and after uh the confirmation. So uh we should proceed uh the communication board project based on uh their opinion. I think.

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So we need some, uh do you have any progress about communicating with linux foundation by person.

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I haven't got any feedback from perry yet, but I will ask him how it is going, um so we need to have one contact person and invite him to one of these meetings to go through the process. I think.

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Yeah he so peer named a craig ross, as as the guy in charge in terms of scoping and cost.

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I couldn't find any um any contact details, but I can ask pierre to make that connection uh to us, so we can. We can confirm the way forward with them up.

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As far as I remember pierre, uh you know suggested that we took the direct dialogue with them, so no not not not necessary to involve the governance board and peer in in each and every of these steps, but keep the overall process that is laid out in the um in the charter that that, obviously, we were supporting this process.

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Maybe you could try to invite him for one of our calls, so he could explain to us the process.

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If you get his contact information.

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Yes, so that was what I suggested that we actually set up a meeting with him, uh not necessarily to you know it's actually a specific meeting dedicated for that um to have him walk through sort of you know, align expectations and have him shed some light on on on how the general work uh with with projects like us.

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But but so how we design uh is uh in access, therefore, so maybe we should uh talk with person, maybe he can.

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Give the feedback until really so.

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Maybe it doesn't matter, I think jens could also contact the person if we got the name from um from param, since we are all in the uni matrix group, so it doesn't matter who or us contact him. I think yeah.

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I'm I'm happy to do it I'll just lie with with pierre to get his contact details. I got a name so that should be. That should be a no-brainer.

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Okay, I I will see if we can get a meeting arranged with craig ross um and I think that should be our next uh communication board meeting uh or communication meeting. um So obviously we cannot set a date today, but but I'll see if I can get that done as soon as possible, so we can get the process moving.

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Anything further at that point.

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Yeah, I was thinking about the gitlab uh issue and maybe that's something we would bring up with him as well. um His thoughts about github versus gitlab and not making a decision before we get more feedback from him about and.

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Yeah, you know I had a look at the um the the uh crowdfunding page and obviously that's tied very tight to to github and not gitlab, um but that there was another way of setting it up. So I think that's a very good approach really to get his point of view. First, before we make any changes.

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Yeah so um yeah, I agree with you and so.

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So now so uh we have the uh communication board meeting uh once a month. uh The timing, uh the period, is very long. uh Therefore, so uh of course so uh we should have.

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uh uh The meeting uh in a short time, in addition, so uh we should frequently communicate the items with us by email, maybe.

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The discussion items are very complex in the detail, and the volume is very large. Therefore, so we need to communicate uh each other frequently. I think.

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And we should set up a next meeting with linux foundation as soon as possible, as jan said, and we so we await the response and see when he is available and the answer will set that up. So hopefully that will be before much quicker than one month. Hopefully.

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Yeah I mean uh it, it's it's just a a initial meeting, uh you know no, no harm done and the real work starts after that uh with um the funding part and getting the website uh done, but but I'll see. If I can push for, you know for a meeting relatively soon uh with with this guy, and that would eventually you know, even determine issues like do. We need to change to github, you know, maybe not, then. Obviously, that removes a big weight from our shoulders.

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And then they understood the uh the domain transfer, uh um maybe they can help us with that I know. I know we discussed that in the last uh gb meeting.

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And um and the web reflector main.

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Yeah, so maybe that solves uh completely by itself, if if they are completely taking over the whole website and hosting and and the maintenance and and so forth, uh I think I think we should. We should take that meeting first and then um we need to set some of the next steps. uh You know, there's no need to transfer any web right now at this stage.

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You know we don't know where to and and so forth, and so I you know, I actually think that that's the next important step that we need to take the meeting with uh craig ross.

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The agenda is, is pretty long, so just going through what else is outstanding or remaining.

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You put in a point uh makoto-san here about building consensus about the draft proposal.

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Can you elaborate on that.

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Yeah, uh we need to modify the uh not only the website, but also github or git drop, and so the contents of github or git drop is related to the technical materials.

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Therefore, uh the uh structure and the uh contents and the explanation should be.

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Managed by the fredericks.

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Therefore, so we need his help uh to uh create that uh github kids love content after now. I think, therefore, so uh I think so. uh He should also join this meeting after now,.

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Especially so uh software modules uh are all almost of all, uh software modules are dropped by actually, therefore, so it has a double passing.

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But in in all fairness, does this result under the communications board or under the technical board, the structure of the the gitlab.

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So what I'm, what I'm saying is maybe from uh from a messaging perspective, from a from a communications perspective um yeah, I don't know if uh I I can't say if it resides one or the other sta a place, but I would think it would reside naturally under under the technical board, not that it's not important. I mean I'm, I'm I'm uh rather inexperienced in finding my way through gitlab and and I struggle to uh to get like a good overview.

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uh Can frederickson also manage the uh github and github contents in the technical board.

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Yes, I guess going from gitlab to github. There are tools to do that, so you can import that project into one or whatever.

C

So I don't think the transfer is a big issue, but of course the technical board needs to uh to be part after we have a meeting or a frederick is running this next next meeting, and we will ask him, of course, um if we feel that we need to switch for uh reasons given by git hero, linux foundation.

C

Technical board needs to give some feedback. You know how to do that, but I can't foresee that it would be any big issue.

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But I'm not sure so much about the transfer. It's more a little bit more about the structure that we actually keep in either git level github.

C

Yeah, of course we get. This is the same. It's the tools around it that could differ somewhat.

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Was that what you meant, the transfer or the structure that we keep in in the git.

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So, uh in my opinion, so the uh current uh git drops uh structure is a little messy and therefore so.

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Go summarize the contents and the uh replace uh the contents uh for the uh official uh project launch. It means your matrix version 1.0.

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Yeah so let's, let's get uh frederick to join the next uh meeting and we can. uh We can maybe take the discussion uh at that stage.

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Even if we don't change to github, we will probably need to make some changes anyway to incorporate the versioning and so on, so having an oversight of the structure on the git. Of course, that could be done anyway.

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So, okay, anyway, so anyway, so.

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Shall we uh confirm.

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Frederickson's opinion by email, so maybe.

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So uh for confirming uh his opinion, so uh the uh we uh will wait. uh The next shibiko is.

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Maybe it takes time, therefore, how about confirming it by email.

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Invite him to the linux foundation call, and so I think, that's important to have him with us, because we will be discussing the next uh gitlab, github and so on. So we need him in the meeting and I think it will be natural after the meeting to see what should be done so yeah. We, it seems like we can't do much until we had the discussion with the linux foundation.

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Okay- and I guess that goes for the last item as well- the confirming the way their suggested way of attracting companies with the leading foundation. Potentially they can, they can shed some line there as well.

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I think that concludes the the agenda.

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Is there anything else at this point that we we need to discuss.

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No not from exercise okay,.

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I noted down a couple of actions, I'll put them into a document, uh I'm uh I haven't posted minute meetings before um so really. If I can just ping you uh how to do that, uh I've seen this all the with merge requests and then and whatnot on the gitlab uh just to understand the process fully. So I can we can get that done um and we we will post it together with the uh with the recording right.

C

And the recording I will put on your youtube because on.

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So I will do that after this download it and upload it to youtube.

A

Right but I'll ping, you separately, there's no need to spend time on this in in the meeting.

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Okay cool. So uh let's not set the next date at this stage, but I will see if I can confirm, with craig as soon as possible, uh rather sooner than later a meeting where we can share thoughts and ideas and get his input on the process.

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From my side, tranquilian.

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A

Thank you guys, let's stay in touch and see when we do the next meeting. Okay,.

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Bye thanks bye.