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From YouTube: Unimatrix members conference call 2020-05-20
A
A
C
A
Really,
what
do
you
have?
First
on
your
agenda,
we
could
swap
the
items
on
by
the
end
as
well.
If
we
want
to
yeah
since
panasonic
had
two
presentations,
they
probably.
B
Okay,
do
you
wanna
share?
I
can
stop
sharing.
C
C
C
From
micro
it's
about,
we
want
to
make
a
reference
implementation
and
a
variation
for
transparent
metadata
of
a
rtv
screen.
C
Where
is
my
point?
Okay
here
is
a
road,
and
here
is
some
pre-application
over
here,
and
this
example
first
gets
an
image
from
the
base
formula
and
send
to
the
road
and
gets
back
the
results
from
la
road
and
it's
over
here
it's
a
metadata
generator.
We
I'm
going
to
create,
develop
and
it
sends
metal
inference
metadata
into
the
video
three
minute
sender.
C
C
D
C
B
So
how
do
you
propose
to
communicate
with
the
firmer
from
the
container?
Is
it
the
api?
Is
it
what
kind
of
I
ipc
mechanism?
Are
you
proposing.
C
I've
just
started
investigating
about
it
and
actually
the
developer
worker
is
another
person
and
he's
investigating.
D
About
it,
and
because
we
are,
we
are
also
doing
similar.
B
Things
that
are
concerned,
we
have
actually
proposal
to
use
an
internal
mqtt
broker,
so
you
would
have.
C
It's
not
the
over
with
the
existing
image
stream
over
rtp
without
rtp.
Is
that
correct.
B
No
I'm
talking
to
how
the
container
is
communicating
with
the
sender,
so
I
at
access,
we
have
started
to
look
at
using
an
internal
broker,
mqtt
broker
for
just
communicating
between
the
containers
in
the
system
and
then-
and
if
you
have
an
external
broker,
that
also
you
you
can
do
a
broker
to
broker
breach.
So
then
you
can
bridge
some
of
the
events
or
some
of
the
metadata
that
you
want
to
publish
externally,
and
this
is
all
standard
components
that
are
already
existing.
B
So
it's
something
that
we
could
just
use
like
a
mosquito
container
they're,
just
a
suggestion
for
how
to
and
also
another
question.
C
The
data
format
is,
it
should
be
at
least
free
free
format.
D
C
We
should
support
such
kind
of
common
definition,
format.
B
We
have
another
proposal
on
this
topic
actually,
which
is
to
use
protobuf,
which
is
a
it's
using
a
schema
and
also
backward
compatible.
So
you
you,
don't
have
to
use
the
same
versions
in
the
in
the
consumer
and
the
producer,
so
it's
quite
flexible
and
it's
binary,
so
it's
very
much
more
efficient
than
using
xml,
so
maybe
in
before
we
can
share.
Actually
some
basic
protobuf
schema
to
see
if
it
suits
your
needs.
It's
a.
B
F
Sorry
yeah,
I
have
a
question
about
the
metadata
format,
since
army
found
specifying
mqtt
to
send
a
event
also
maybe
be
used
for
sending
metadata
in
the
future
if
they
chose
by,
they
chose
use
json
to
be
the
event
format
and
also
for
metadata.
I
think
maybe
they
will
choose
json.
F
So
I
suggest
this
best
find
the
same
metadata
format
in
uni
matrix
and
on
with.
F
B
I
still
want
the
binary
format,
so
I
mean
it.
It
makes
sense
to
have
json,
but
still
it's
not
really
efficient.
If
it's
large,
let's
say
you
have,
including
you
know,
vectors
like
result,
vectors
of
the
inference
or
images
or
stuff
like
that
in
your
in
your
metadata,
then
you
have
to
basically
encode
it
in
json,
so
I
would
like
to
have
a
protobuf
format
anyway,
but
yeah,
I
see
what
you
mean,
but
I
think
we
should
start
a
discussion
also
on
a
binary
form.
F
F
B
Also,
we
are
thinking
of
another
method
than
rtp
to
to
send
this
kind
of
thing,
so
we
want
to
use
dash.
So
actually
axis
is
working
on
a
new
bond
with
profile.
We
call
it
a
hybrid
profile
which
includes
pushing
video,
audio
and
metadata
to
like
a
cloud
consumer
over
dash.
G
B
So
I
will
try
to
pre,
we
don't
I
mean
for
this
task.
We
don't
have
to
you
know.
I
think
we
can
do
things
one
step
at
a
time.
So
but
my
I
would
like
to
have
an
alternative
transport
transport
method
in
on
before
pushing
data
to
the
cloud.
F
B
Anyways,
so
I
can
sorry
I
I
totally
interrupted
your
whole
presentation,
but
I
can
share
my
the
protobuf
definition
that
we
we
have
done
so
far,
so
you
can
have
a
look
at
it.
I
think
I
put
it
on
on
gitlab
somewhere,
so
everybody
can
have
a
look
at
it.
D
C
This
case
will
give
one
of
the
easy
ways
for
some
developers
to
use
their
existing
base
firmware
with
small
modifications
with
the
existing.
For
example,
the
combinations
with
some
their
proprietary
functions
already
implemented
and
cannot
be
dropped
like
our
companies
and.
C
C
H
H
Items,
let
me
explain
these
items
or
after
that
I
would
like
to
discuss
them,
and
the
first
item
will
explain
another
opportunity.
So
first
item
is
purpose
of
the
ground
design.
H
The
reason
for
presenting
it
is
because
I
thought
that
it
would
be
necessary
to
understand
what
kind
of
system
to
build
as
a
whole
system,
including
cloud
when
proceeding
with
each
of
each
company
and
hyper
would
like
to
continue
to
update
the
figure
of
grand
design
based
on
the
progress
of
study.
Each
time
we
found
items
and
second
item
about
the
and
time
schedule.
H
C
Let's
click:
let's
let
me
confirm
about
the
time
schedule
we
searched
the
inside
is
a
guitar.
I
didn't.
I
couldn't
find
some
kind
of
document
regarding
the
that
describes
the
time
schedule.
Timescape
zero
reason
means
about
our
tasks
for
one
or
two
years,
do
you
have
some
time
schedule
already
created.
B
I
think
we
early
on
we
kind
of
made
a
rough
schedule.
I
think
it
was
in
the
hong
kong
meeting,
maybe
yeah,
but
I
think
we
said
maybe
end
of
summer.
We
would
have
some
kind
of
pre-release,
but
it
depends
on
what
you
include
if
what
you
want
to
include,
because
at
that
time
I
think
we
were
discussing
only
around
the
inference
engine
and
the
video
api
and
the
deployment
api.
B
C
He
will
make
the
next
presentation
he
would
probably
he
wants
to
restart
the
items
for
the
for
each
time
schedule
and
make
the
time
what's
the
first
stuff
line
and
in
the
time
yeah
we.
C
At
the
end
of
the
presentation,
and
by
the
way,
let
me
explain
for
some
premiums
about
it
about
the
time
schedule.
Actually,
we
ipro
members
were
required
from
our
managers
to
make
and
clarify
the
detailed
time
schedule
for
unimatrix.
C
She,
our
our
company,
would
like
to
create
the
draft
old
time
schedule
and
we
want
to
discuss
and.
C
B
So
I
think
it's
good
that
you
started
structuring
things
like
this
so
for
for
the
video
api.
I
think
for
many
of
these
I
think
it's
more
about
good
if
more
than
one
company
is
involved,
so
for
the
video
api
definitely
access
has
has
started
on
that
site.
So
we
we
want
to
continue
on
video
api.
B
I
think
we
already
done
some
container
base
layer
with
subset
of
opencv,
so
it's
it's
definitely
something
we
want
to
do,
and
also
yeah
for
the
reference
platform.
C
C
For
example,
on
this
table,
zero
copy
zero
could
be
some
company
hike
vision
with
this
issue
on
the
hackathon
on
december.
Is
that
complete
work
continue.
F
Yeah
we
just
give
a
mechanism
to
do
the
xero
copy,
maybe
butter
in.
F
I
think
maybe
in
the
designer
video
api,
they
will
give
some
explain
about
using
this.
B
Yeah
we
we
have
done
a
driver
for
opencv
which
does
zero
copy
to
to
access
hardware.
So,
but
this
is,
this
is
specific
for
access
so,
but
I
think
we
can
open
source
it
so
that
we
can
share
ideas
with
other
companies
of
how
they
can
do
similar
things
with
their
hardware,
because
this
is,
I
guess,
very
hard
specific.
B
So,
but
I
I
I've
been-
we
have
been
talking
about
open
sourcing
that
component
with
unimatrix,
so
that
it's
clear,
because
it's
not
trivial
to
do
this
in
opencv,
because
opencv
is
not
really.
B
B
Like
is
class,
for
you
know
having
images
so,
but
the
the
work
there
is
we
can.
I
think
we
can
could
share
that
and
give
a
presentation
during
the
hackathon
about
this.
So,
but
I
would
like
to
have
another
company
involved
about
deciding
what
part
of
opencv
is
relevant
to
heaven,
because.
I
I
B
F
B
I
F
Record
you
me,
you
are
talking
about
the
opencv
right,
not
just
a
zero
copy
and
also
to
correct
to
to
choose
which
part
of
opencv
we
can
use.
B
H
F
Frederick,
I
think
your
first
topic
is
about
the
opencv
choose
which
part
of
pennsylvania
we
will
use
in
unimatrix
right.
B
B
B
So
I
guess
the
best
way
to
go
forward
on
this
is
to
have
separate
like
working
group
meetings
on
these
tasks,
so
because
we
are
not,
maybe
all
of
us
interested
in
the
same
things.
B
But
to
start
things
off,
I
think
we
prepare
something
for
the
hackathon,
a
presentation
about
the
zero
copy
thing
there's
already
for
the
subset
of
opencv,
there's
already
a
docker
file
for
building
it.
B
C
Next,
next
next.
C
It's
about
resource
reduction
of.
C
Do
we
have
on
the
agenda
for
today
about
the
resource
reduction,
for
example,
edge
or
cube
edge,
buses,
butcher,
kubic
or
some
others.
B
C
J
Yeah,
no,
that
kevin
has
another
meeting
this
conflict
too,
with
astonishing
our
meeting.
So
we
can't
we
can
share
the
the
information
from
from
cuba
tonight.
Okay,.
J
C
Let
me
confirm
about
the
cube
edge
and
the
battery
giveaway.
I
have
not
not
studied
the
project
secret
yet,
but
I
wanted
to
know
the
difference
in
terms
of
functionality
or
feasibility
between
in
case
when
we
select
the
qubits
and
in
case
when
we
select
the
virtual
coupes,
especially
for
the
functions
that
might
be
required
or
useful,
with
uni
metrics.
B
B
C
And
I
think
if
the
cubbage
has
attractive
functions,
I
don't
know,
but
it
will
be
better
if
developers
can
select
the
one
from
the
alternatives
which
they
need
coverage
or
bachelorette
or
some
others.
I
don't
know
by
comparing
their
functions,
available
and
unavailable
for
each
and
also,
of
course,
by
comparing
the
required
hardware.
Resources
is
very
important.
H
B
Should
we
go
through
the
table,
you
had
and
see
where
companies
want
to
contribute
yeah
this
one.
J
B
J
That
will
be
good
for
yes
for
us
yeah,
that's
good!
This
table
is.
G
I
I
I
just
have
one
question
on
your
presentation:
is
that
you,
you
mentioned
a
little
bit
the
resources
needed
for
for
for
this,
and
this
is
your
some
kind
of
a
minimum
resource
or
it's
a
target,
camera
resources.
Or
what
do
you
mean
target
camera
resources
is
a
something
you
want
to
do
for
this
kind
of
capacity
as
a
minimum,
or
it's
it's
like
a
standard
for
for
some
kind
of
application.
G
So
do
you
have
an
idea
or
maybe
when
we
we
need
to
go
through
this
part
during
our
hack
zone
and
to
work
out
some
kind
of
minimum
resources?
I
don't
know
what
what
what
is
your
plan
or
maybe
access?
I
have
some
other
suggestions
on
this.
E
C
It's
a
additional
additional
resources
required
for
uni,
matrix
and
minimum
requirement.
It
depends
on
on
the.
G
C
G
Yes,
so
yeah,
so
that's
why
that's
why?
What
I
ask
is
that
it's
a
standard
resource
or
minimum,
because
if
we
say
minimum
resources,
that
means
maybe
just
only
one
container
installed
into
a
camera.
So
this
this
should
be
considered
as
a
minimum
resource
right,
but
if,
if
multiple
container
can
be
installed
into
one
camera,
it
also,
it
depends
on
some
kind
of
camera.
Specification
and
capacity
and
different
cameras
have
a
different
thing
to
do
so.
It's
a
yeah,
it's
a
yeah
just
have
some
idea
to
to
to.
G
I
G
Each
each
manufacturer
defined
by
themselves.
B
A
B
More
detailed
breakdown
of
this
300
megabytes
what
it
is,
and
so
we
I
mean
we
know
that
container
d
takes
such
and
such
amount.
We
know
that
if
we
want
to
include
cube
edge,
it
takes
a
100
megabytes,
and
so
it
would
be
good
to
have,
and
we
know
that
opencv
is
the
size
and
so
on,
so
to
have
some
kind
of
budget,
that's
as
to
see
where,
where
we,
where
we
are
right
now.
B
How
much
is
like
the
base
layer?
How
much
is
like
yeah
the
demons
and
so.
H
C
H
A
A
B
Figures
in
the
same
ballpark,
but
that
includes
docker,
which
is
quite
huge
so
and
we
we
more,
we
see
docker
as
a
more
of
a
development
tool
so
for
the
production
environment
we
don't
want
to
include
docker
in
the
so
it's
more
like
it's
very
convenient
to
use
stalker
for
when
you
are
because
it's
got
a
nice
command
line
tool
and
so
on,
but
for
production
we
don't
want
to
include
docker.
G
B
I
mean
we
can
do.
We
can
do
a
very
short
presentation
of
how
it
looks
for
us
right
now
with
the
resources
that,
but
we
that
includes
docker,
as
I
said,
which
is
huge,
but
it
it
gives
you
kind
of
a
rough
estimate
of
what
it
takes
and
then
I
think,
probably
panasonic.
It
would
be
great
if
you
also
could
do
a
breakdown,
and
then
we
can
just
share
those.
E
B
A
We
have
covered
a
lot
of
the
topics
the
hackathon
we
have
discussed.
B
A
Yeah
we.
I
A
Rotation
of
the
time
for
a
meeting,
if
we
need
to
do
a
rotation,
if
or
if
we
could
find
if
it's
acceptable
to
have
one
at
a
time
I
I
know
this.
B
Time
is
is
difficult
for
japan,
but
I
guess
we
chose
this
to
make
it
more
easy
for
microsoft
to
join,
but
they
didn't
join
this
time.
So
it's
it's.
B
So
what
do
you
guys
say?
Should
we,
I
kind
of
have
a
rotating
time
so
with
so
that
each
time
zone
will
get
a
a
sweet
spot
or
should
we
try?
Is
this
time
good
for
for
you
or
do
you
do
you
want
to
rotate
times.
A
Times
would
could
make
it
a
bit
confusing.
It
is
pros
and
cons
depending
on.
If
someone
you
just
can't
join
it's
a
bit
bad
yeah.
Yes,.
G
G
Most
manufacturers
like
axis
panasonic
and
the
hydration,
or
even
we
can
contribute
a
lot
of
that.
That
part.
We
have
the
most
experience
right.
So
it's
it's
a
it's.
Is
it
possible
that
we
can
break
break
down
topic
and
this
kind
of
really
topic?
We
can
make
like
a
a
a
a
better
timeline
meeting
between
europe
and
asia
and
all
the
other
topics.
For
example,
if
we
discuss
a
little
bit
cuba
age
cloud
side,
I
think
microsoft
huawei
and
they
have
more
experience
on
that
part.
G
A
B
B
I
think
we
could
we
can
shift
between
two
times
yeah,
but
I
I
think
actually
microsoft
is,
is
interested
in
also
edge
topics,
since
they
have.
B
So
that
they
have,
I
mean
their
own
nx
inference
engine
which
they
are
interested
in.
B
C
Yeah,
japan
time
tony
ultima
almost
says
the
same
as
china.
So
it's
okay
yeah!
We
are
we're
almost
together,
so
yeah.
C
B
A
B
I
will
see
look
into
the
serial
copy
thing
for
video
api.
If
we
can
publish
that.
B
C
Want
to
make
some
modification
on
that
presentation
so
I'll
make
I'll
do
it
by
of.
D
I
Yeah,
a
couple
of
quick
issues:
can
you
guys
hear
me?
Okay,
yep,
okay,
great
yeah?
We
we
would
really
like
to
figure
out
how
to
kind
of
start
a
test
and
evaluation
focus
group
for
the
project,
since
that's
really
kind
of
our
area
key
area
of
interest.
I
noticed
there
are
some
line
items
on
the
the
list
that
panasonic
presented
that
are
related
to
tests
and
evaluation.
I
So
maybe
you
know
we.
We
had
a
nice
discussion
with
the
folks
at
access
this
morning
about
tne
and
and
how
we
can
support
tne
for
access.
So
maybe
the
thing
for
us
to
do
is
follow
up
with
all
the
other
teams
about
their
specific
objectives
and
and
and
go
about
kind
of
building
out
the
t
e
plan.
That
way,
then,
maybe
we
can
circle
back
during
the
hackathon,
with
a
more
comprehensive
proposal,
for
you
know,
sort
of
end
to
end
tne
within
unimatrix
project.
I
That
feels
like
a
bit
of
a
kind
of
an
underrepresented
topic
area
at
the
moment,
but
I
don't
want
to
you
know,
take
away
from
group
technical
discussion.
If
the
topic
is
premature,
I
mean.
B
It's
a
really
it's
a
really
important
topic
so,
and
I
mean
in
the
long
run,
if
you
want
this
platform
to
be
successful,
the
testing
part
is
going
to
be
very,
very
important
because
we're
going
to
have
quite
diverse
hardware
so
to
be
able
to
you,
know,
be
to
to
not
have
get
bad
will
with
the
market.
We
really
need
to
to
do
good
testing,
because
if
you
do
an
application,
you
want
to
know
if
that's
gonna
run
on
all
the
devices
out
there
or
if
there's
a
problem.
I
So
does
it
make
sense,
then,
to
have
maybe
a
tne
proposal
from
focal
or
to
I
guess
how
should
we,
how
should
we
proceed
with
building
out
the
the
tn
working
group.
B
Yeah,
so
this
is
really
I
mean
this
is
something
I've
been
thinking
about,
but
we
haven't
really
discussed
it
that
we
need
test
suites
for
everything.
So
at
this
point
you
know
we
have
the
inference
engine
and
so
we're
gonna
have
like
a
subset
of
opencv,
of
course,
opencv.
It
had
its
own
test
suite,
so
I
mean
just
setting
up
stuff
to
run
the
the
automated
test
which
that
are
already
there
should
be
something
that
is
also
think
about
how
how
do
we
test
the
firmware?
B
Because
there
is
some
there
is
some
requirements
on
the
firmware.
So
how
is
the?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
con
confirm
that
the
firmware
is
is
conformant?
How
do
we
confirm
that
a
container
application
is
conformant
stuff
like
that,
so
I
think
a
proposal
of
how
to
test
things
the
different
things,
the
firmware,
the
application
containers,
the
base
layer
like
a
proposal
on
the
strategy
of
testing-
I
guess,
would
be
really
nice.
I
Okay,
great
yeah,
we'll
put
that
on
our
to-do
list,
not
sure
we
can
deliver
on
it
before
the
hackathon,
but
it'll
certainly
be
a
work
in
progress,
and
then
you
know
I
do
think
it
maybe
makes
sense
for
us
to
follow
up
with
each
of
the
independent
teams.
Just
to
kind
of
you
know,
we
don't
have
kind
of
connections
with
each
of
the
individual
performer
teams.
I
Yet
so
maybe
a
good
way
to
get
started
is
just
to
kind
of
make
those
rounds,
and
you
know
get
some
introductions
done
and
start
those
relationships
in
earnest.
So
yeah
looking
forward
to
chatting
with
everyone
about
their
teeny
concerns
over
the
next
month
or
so.
B
Great,
that's
so
maybe
you
can
do
prepare
something
so
you
have.
We
can
start
a
discussion
around
testing
at
the
hackathon
yep.
We'll
do
perfect.
B
Okay,
so
I
think
we
are
running
out
of
time
any
other
business
from
any
any
participant.
B
Alright,
so
thank
you
thank
you
for
joining
today
and
we'll
talk
again
in
two
weeks
time.