Unimatrix Members Call, 11 Sep 2019

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So everybody can access recording afterwards. If you want to listen to your meeting.

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Or share with some colleagues or.

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Hello, this is hiroku from panasonic.

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I'm fine! How about you.

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Hello, david speaking from videotech, and also.

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Guys coming to hong.

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Kong to the hong kong meeting.

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May I ask one question:.

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If other players want to join to our our group, how to process that it's just I I can- I can get them involved and they they will come. They will join directly or something like that. So we need to fill in something- or I don't know, for example, if other vms partners they want to come to. Our group is that, okay for for the group rules or anything.

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Yeah, I mean it's an open source project, so anyone can join and we have right now we have uh some pro on a git lab site. We have some private uh repository, which you need to be request, a membership so but anyone can can uh join.

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We will of course, stand with the charter. We will be a little bit more strict, so those that do join that they do in sort of listening or taking the work. So that's what we want to achieve that you are active contributor and I don't know if you've been looking at the repository that frederick has created, but there isn't. There is a proposal for a charter working draft of a charter.

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That charter have been uh reviewed by legal team, so it shouldn't be any controversies in there.

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When you have the time. I suggest you take a look at it. We're prepared for the meeting next week to uh finally decide on the details of this.

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Yeah, frederick.

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Says it's uh it's, uh it's it's an open source project and I think you met also someone that wanted to join.

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I just want to yeah. I just want to know, because we don't yet uh marketize this kind of this kind of program yet so before we launch that, uh I don't know if we need some kind of a process to say that I don't know if someone from other company or other players is going one time and they quick next time and they just get some information. They share to public to anything else. So I don't know, I don't know, I'm sure it will not happen, but I don't know in future.

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So just if you have any idea on tenants, regulation or whatever, so we can follow that or we just do as we want so.

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We're planning to to launch this as a linux foundation project, and but we are not quite ready, because uh we at the hong kong meeting will discuss the charter, which will be something that uh to be approved, and then we can contribution to get their idea about it. And, uh after I think, when we have launched this linux foundation project, I think.

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It's go public.

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Of course you will, you will see some uh some wording in the in the proposed charter about the the evidence of, uh and also a little bit about marketing, but we can discuss that in detail when we meet in in hong kong.

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Okay, I understand yeah I can I can wait. I can wait until next meeting then we'll see what frederick I have a question.

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So you said you want to launch it through the linux foundation.

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Didn't we at least before launching, have a little bit of uh structure in the project, because, as of today, it is so hard that if we launch it in a few weeks, I am scared that we may end up with people on boarding.

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Let's say software houses that are not very with the surveillance industry and we may end up with a lot of cows, so maybe before launching it, we should have some something at least to show the way not only to talk a little bit, but also something working to show the way. What is the target, the scope of uh work? Otherwise, we face the risk that the project made severely.

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I mean intention is to have a reference platform and some sample implementation of an application, so I think before we have that it doesn't make much sense to go public. Okay. I agree with that.

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I think it's better to have something great.

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We also looked at the the naming of uh of the project and we asked access ipr people to look at the name. Uni matrix see whether that was suitable or not for the name of the project and they came back and said it doesn't compete with any similar type of initiative.

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Interesting, though, to look at github only there are eight other projects, namely the matrix.

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They are basically related to the translation of klingon. I think from a very famous tv series, no competition, so the legal staff here said it's okay to use, that's the name, we're gonna use for the project. No one else have any suggestion. I think we actually agreed last time that we go for this anyway.

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I mean right now: it's just the name of a group, so we can certainly change it if they we run into some problem, but I think it's easy. It's easy to pronounce it's easy to write.

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Take a look at the agenda here.

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But I don't see the draft.

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Okay, I was looking.

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In the wrong place, yeah- and I just because we had to change the webex, so I copied with his agenda.

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So we we're done with the naming initiative, and we are also uh does this anything about shorter here for participation of the steering group. We have not dealt with.

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As I said since last time, we said there is more job like reviewing and giving this kind of contribution. I I can volunteer for that.

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We can discuss that in detail when we meet in also in hong kong to find out a little bit more about the expected workload might be okay, it's it's a little bit difficult, maybe for the time being to see, maybe it's more more uh more work later on when we start to to how we go public on this.

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Put that on the on the homecoming agenda to discuss with.

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Common development.

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uh Well, I I put another project on a new matrix site. uh It's just uh right now, I'm pretty empty layer, but the intention is to put.

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Is we need to build the reference platform there?

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The meta uni matrix? I will put.

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I'm building right now is like distribution, which is a based on open, embedded and then docker community edition and some stuff for configuration.

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Hopefully, before.

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uh But we haven't, we haven't, really got everything working because I want to also put tensorflow lite uh and uh working together with the raspberry. uh I haven't really got the recipe working for that. Yet.

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Okay, because if you remember last time that we had a caller in august, I told you that I would like to try and replicate the meta layer not using your, but by using build root. uh In the meanwhile, I created the equivalent of your meta layer, public repository under my account on gitlab, because it's easier for me to work on that, and also I need to be able to understand that when you add new packets, what you want to do so I will use that project to um to learn what you're pushing and to understand.

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If everything that you do is understandable from my side. So if you want, then I can send you a link, it's public, as you said, for yours. It's the same for mine. I just have a very, very equivalent of the meta layer for uh compiling for the rosemary.

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To replicate everything.

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So I have some building instructions because we have some dependencies to build the docker community edition. You need a couple of more layers so, but I will I will try to push that before for hong kong.

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So that I can try and review it and replicate.

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Difficulty I had was with the tensorflow lite parts, uh probably that one I won't push it so, but at least you will get the docker plus network manager and some other stuff.

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Because I think it would be a very, very nice way to check interoperability if we can do different, build systems.

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Also, my idea from the start was actually not to build uh build uh the actual firm I was hoping to get use raspbian.

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I want to use the 64-bit uh architecture and raspbian doesn't support that. So that's why I'm actually building the hole.

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Okay, okay, so we will updating these also in the next uh calls. As long as.

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Goes on great idea to try two different: you could actually push it to.

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You can push it to our gitlab account. If you want. I don't.

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If I'm allowed.

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To create a new project.

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I will have a look at if you right now you register as developer. You need to be an admin. I will check that.

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In addition to the target feedback on.

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The agenda for the meeting in hong kong. We have decided that we should go for two tracks, one for the governance side, myself we'll have that group and I will take down a few points for agenda stand out before the meeting.

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You guys take care of the agenda for the technical part.

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Yes, maybe we should start all of us in one.

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First, maybe like one or two hours to.

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Things, I think, from the technical side, uh the most important thing is use.

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We have an agenda. If you have agenda points you want to bring up, you send them to the same group. I will collect attribute into one document.

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Okay, since we are using uh git, we could uh commit our multiplication to the draft agenda before the meeting starts. It does not even require you to do all the merger on your role.

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Okay, I think we are good enough.

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uh Draftaganda to the meetings.

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uh Yes, uh frederick, we prepared interface requirements and uh container image format proposal. uh You will place these two topic into the agenda.

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Can you, please repeat, it was a little bit difficult to hear.

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uh Let's prepare interface request and continue for my image.

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We're sorry you're like dropping out.

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Is that for a technical side, we prepare something on container image format and the interface requirement that we we have something from our experience from our mind. So we we we just get all the requests and we can discuss. We can share during during meeting technical power.

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Do you want to have the presentation about the equation experience? It's a.

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Yeah yeah, it's a very simple uh presentation: it's not a.

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Not well done, but very, very pre pre-draft version. So it's just some idea. We want to share. We want to discuss with with all of you so yeah perfect, we're perfect yeah, so we added that to again again yeah and also for another business marketing site. I don't know if talk a little bit about all the business model, marketing planning and when we can do work and when we can share what kind of message outside or when we can, we can recruit more partners or do something together with the wizard within this this container group.

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So that is also something we want to out during during governance and the business meeting right absolutely.

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So I've already put down a communication plan sort of bullet.

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Point, did you take note of that witty.

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Technical, so the high commission.

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So I will put this into a document I will put it on on the quality proposed agenda for hong kong.

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So maybe how many people are registered right now really have.

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You yeah, we can.

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Last time I checked that equation as well. If I.

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Has accepted the invitation.

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I think for next meeting we probably need a email reflector, because this email list is getting a little bit difficult to manage, because people disappear and new people.

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Is anyone now a good tool for that.

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Right now, the total totally people coming to this meeting hong kong meeting should be like a 10 right around 10.

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Do we need to separate two groups or we can stay in one single group all day long, because over there we have two meeting room, one big one, small.

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Small is okay: if a governance will discuss this marketing plan and so on, that could be done separately yeah. So that's good to have two rooms available.

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um This is sieben from gustain and just to let you know, we won't be able to attend the meet in hong kong. um Our travel hasn't been authorized so we'll have to skip. Unfortunately, okay.

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And you're not allowed to travel.

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Companies had some given the exact reason with some political issues and.

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I understand that we saw that the registrants for all this meeting.

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Conclude that a lot of people are not being able to travel to.

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Kong, that will affect union metrics.

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Apparently, to do with it covering or something.

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Probably yeah also, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to keep uh arranging this meeting together with only we should probably have a separate need meeting next time and.

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We should discuss this in the facebook page also, the next meeting, where.

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Meeting planning.

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Oh yes, but I think then you will face the problem of traveling.

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Also, we need to discuss the necessity of how often we meet face to face in the in.

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In the planning I have was to kind of co-host with the conferences. If people I mean we sometimes go to linux foundation conferences and we could co-locate the uh meeting with that.

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For the hong kong meeting, uh should we set up a.

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A webex that runs in parallel, so people can dial in or listening.

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But it could be hard to be.

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Oh applause, thank you.

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There's a presentation going on here. um I was saying the webex one for the initial uh meeting, where everybody's involved that would be useful. We could probably dial into that necessary that we have it for the whole session, because that might not be possible.

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Okay, so we aim at that.

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Else we need to.

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Nothing else like this and we.

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See also, um can we know from exercise. Do you have any expert on ai, deep learning area that who, who will also come to this meeting in hong kong or next time.

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They were not able to join this time. They.

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Had them meeting at the different location at the same time, so we would like to to.

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Check they were um prepared to to meet. um Maybe we can arrange a separate meeting. We could, even here in lund or in somewhere else in in europe,.

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For our point of view, if we choose to have separate meetings and if they can drop at least initially it's much better for video tech.

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Same thing for us, we.

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Also offer to host, if necessary,.

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It should also be easier than the us for for chinese.

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I think it's asia and europe, but the same as.

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Be feasible, yeah fault on it.

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Let's see how things develop, but we keep that in.

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Frederick, I tried to create the project for meal root under the unimetrics account, but it complains that I am not an owner or I cannot create a master branch. So can you somehow try and give me the rights to to create a master branch and push.

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Yes, I think I changed him out to maintainer.

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Okay, final check.

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um As soon as you move forward, I will work to date.

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Okay, I can push today the I the new, uh the image recipe that will build, also the instructions uh for, because you need to set up a number of layers. So I would push the instructions so a new recipe for building the docker, plus the network manager and stuff like that.

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So uh thank you for participating. I will send out the uh digital recording, so I think we should have put the file on github.

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Private project in audio logs create a file, and I said to you very.

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Thank you all also I'll push the drafting agenda and then you, you can add. If you have thing agenda for hong kong, we can put it there.

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Okay yeah great, thank you.

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