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From YouTube: Unimatrix Technical Board call 2021-07-21
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Okay,
so
let's
dig
into
the
agenda
so
regarding
the
first,
the
host
requirements.
So
I
don't
know,
there's
been
discussions
of
replacing
container
d
with
something
else
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
those
kind
of
discussions,
at
least
for
the
reference
implementation.
This
the
container
day
is
like
the
de
facto
standard,
and
that
is
what
we're
going
with.
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That's
not
my
priority.
My
priority
is
not
to
make
this
fit
into
32
megabytes
ram
or
something
it's
it's.
I
don't
want
to
optimize.
I
mean
other
people
are
working
on
making
these
things
smaller.
So
when
those
things
are
ready,
we
should
adopt
them,
but
right
now
just
take
what
it
off
the
shelf
stuff
and
and
concentrate
on
on
building
other
things.
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Yeah,
I
understand,
of
course,
but
it
is,
it
is
a
trend
in
the
industry
or
moving
container
down
to
the
edge.
So
it's
not
only
you
know
this
product
looking
at
those
things,
so
hopefully
we'll
get
help
from
other
places,
but
yeah
I
mean
I
think
we
should
use
the
industry
standard
like
we.
I
think
it's
even
in
the
in
our
vision
that
we
use
industry
standards
when
where
it
makes
sense
and
when
it's
available
and
right
now
container
d
is
the
standard.
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Or
possibly
as
much
smaller
demon
running
to
do
to
pull
containers
and
so
on
on
the
camera,
not
not
something
huge
like
kubernetes,
we
don't
need
all
those
things.
Kubernetes
provides,
at
least
for
our
use
cases.
It's
more.
We
don't
really
really
need
for
our
cases,
full
orchestration
capabilities
like
load,
balancing
and
such
things
and
migration
of
workloads,
and
it's
more
from
our
point
of
view
when
it
comes
to
orchestration.
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You
know
people
aren't
thinking
worrying
too
much
about
hey.
What's
your,
you
know,
what
are
your
scripting
entry
points
to
your
containers
but
from
a
developer's
perspective,
especially
if
we
try
to
attract
more
naive
developers
who
maybe
are
just
getting
their
feet
wet
with
this
technology,
then
you
know
having
things
that
work
with
systemd
out
of
the
box.
Is
a
very
nice
convenience?
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Yep
yeah
so
podman
has
you
know
its
own
compose
alternative.
That's
supposed
to
be
backward
compatible
with
compose
yeah,
I
mean.
Sadly,
I
don't
think
there
is
a
good
answer
right
now.
Frankly,
the
this
just
you
know
this
ecosystem
is
too
fragmented
for
there
to
be
a
good
choice
right
at
the
moment.
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You
know
cloud
cloud
kubernetes
distributions?
Are
we
optimizing
for
small
footprint
size
on
embedded
devices
or
are
we
optimizing
for
you
know
the
naive
developers
that
we
might
hope
to
attract
to
the
project
somewhere
down
the
line.
Those
are
really
the
three
choices
and
each
one
has
a
distinct
answer.
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Yeah,
in
that
case,
if
you're
really
hoping
to
to
attract
a
the
cloud
developer,
then
I
think
the
right
answer
is
to
do
things
that
are
consistent
with
kubereum-based
kubernetes
distributions.
If
anything,
kubernetes
related,
because
they're
going
to
expect
a
degree
of
portability
between
the
cloud
and
the
edge
that
I
don't
see
yet
in
k3s
or
micro,
kds.
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We
have
been
looking
at
making
a
very
small
docker
compose
compatible
launcher
that
is
without
even
using
dockers,
where
you're
just
using
container
d.
So
it's
it's
compatible
with
compose
and
you
can
so.
You
can
kind
of
structure
application
in
a
nice
way,
but
still
the
footprint
is,
is
quite
small
compared
to
the
full-blown
walk-around
composition.
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Yeah
I
can
update
that
at
least
anyway.
So
so
what
I
will
do
is
go
back
to
kind
of
where
we
started
and
do
the
reference
implementation
using
york,
though,
and
add
those
require
host
requirements
and
then
make
a
container
layered
with
opencv
and
so
on
and
plus
an
example.
So
we
have
something
that
you
can
actually
show.
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Hey,
please
do,
but
I
must
I
must
have
to
make
sure
that
you
understand
that
this
is
not
adding
it
to
your
camera
system.
It's
adding
it
to
the
container.
So
it
doesn't
affect
your
camera
system
you're,
just
adding
the
debuss.
The
broker
would
only
be
available
inside
the
container
for
running
and
separate
container
as
well.
Maybe
that's
better
so
it
doesn't
affect
or
cure
your
product.
In
other
terms,
you
don't
have
debuffs
in
your
system,
just
in
the
container.
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And
then,
depending
on
how
you
make
your
application
yeah,
depending
on
which
libraries
you
actually
use
some
of
those,
I
guess
will
be
stripped
away.
So
it's
not
it's
not
guaranteed
that
everything
will
be
included.
I
guess
but
yeah.
That's
that's!
Roughly
the
size
of
opencv
15
yeah
as
a
small,
quite
minimal.
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We
we
had
to
write
our
own
back
and
for
opencv,
because
we
don't
support
any
of
the
existing
back-ends.
I
mean
there
is
back-ends
for
android.
There
is
back-ends
for
video,
for
linux,
for
ffmpeg
and
other,
but
axis.
Doesn't
we
don't
support
video
for
linux,
so
we
had
to
write
our
own?
It's
not
it's
not
so
difficult,
but
at
least
it
says
so
we
want
to
include
that
in
the
opencv
as
well.
It's
it's
a
small
piece
of
code.
I
guess
so
my
question
is:
do
you
is?
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Yeah
I
mean
we
could
all
I
mean
we
could
all
certainly
have
a
look
and
then
we'll
just
make
a
compromise.
What
what
people
think
are
important?
I
mean
there's
a
huge
set
of
variables
to
you
can
configure
because
it's
such
a
huge
framework,
but
so
the
I
think,
but
you
have
to
compromise
and
make
kind
of
because
otherwise
it
can
become
quite
huge.
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All
right,
I
guess
there
was
no
input
on
that.
Maybe
we
should
discuss
this
a
little
bit
about
security
and
orchestration,
so
I
noticed
that
both
ipro
and
hikvision
is
not
happy
about
having
ssh
enabled,
and
I
mean
I
would
be
surprised,
because
this
is
how
you
normally,
if
you
I
mean
if
you
used
any
cloud
platform,
it's
always
ssh.
That
is
the
control
channel
some
and
but
it
all
depends
on
how
you
secure
ssh.
Of
course,
you
don't
want
to
log
in
there
with
root
and
have
full
access
to
everything
and
so
on.
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Yeah,
okay,
I
understand,
then
then
we
can
explain
how
we
are
using,
how
we
are
doing
that
with
what
how
we
are
doing
that
with
ansible,
but
the
person
from
axis
who
will
do
he's
not
here
right
now
he's
on
vacation,
so
hopefully,
next
time
we
can
do
a
small
presentation
around
that.
It's
a
token
based
authentication
that
gives
certain.