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From YouTube: UNIVERSE XYZ AMA #1
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Live AMA with the Universe Founders and the XYZ community recorded on January 19th, 2022
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A
B
C
B
Well,
that's
what
I
was
talking
to
ryan
about.
Actually
just
so
everybody
is
on
the
same
page,
because
we
have
like
we're.
Gonna
launch
it
in
like
a
beta
version
and
an
alpha
version,
I'm
trying
to
get
like
the
timelines
of
when
they
come
out
like
when
the
actual
marketplace
comes
out
because,
like
just
for
especially
for
the
people
who
weren't
on
the
last
one,
when
we
came
out
with
universe,
we
had
a
like
wide
range
of
ideas
and
things
that
we
wanted
to
work
on
like
ranging
from
like
extremely
ambitious
to
attainable.
B
And
one
thing
that
I
think
that
everyone
should
know
is
that
when
we
like
set
out
to
build
universe
like
nft
volumes
were
like
10
million
dollars
a
month
and
then
like.
We
were
rightfully
ahead
of
the
market,
but,
like
the
back
end
that
you
need
to
run
a
marketplace
that
has
like
that
number
of
people
and
like
keep
in
mind.
This
isn't
uniswap
where
like
but
aren't
even
interacting
with
the
interface
they're,
just
like
essentially
market
making
directly
to
the
smart
contracts.
B
A
lot
of
unisa
or
a
lot
of
like
uniswaps,
like
volumes,
don't
necessarily
affect
like
the
front
end,
so
ultimately,
openc
like
from
growing
in
10
million
dollars
in
volume
to
10
billion
dollars
in
volume
and
those
being
actual
people
like
on
there
transacting
those
volumes
you're
talking
about.
Basically
the
largest
app
in
like
the
history
of
d5
at
the
time,
was
uniswap
and
could
have
handled
the
back
end
that
we
were
originally
building
so
like
as
the
market
grew
aggressively.
B
Those
things
obviously
need
to
scale
with
the
entire
like
blockchain,
but
a
lot
of
what
we've
seen
in
the
same
way
that
I
think
like
this
community's,
probably
gotten
spooked
once
or
twice
seeing
like
when
andre
from
yfi
like
was
dropping
like
the
smart
contracts
in
front
end.
I
basically
saw
that,
and
originally
I
like
probably
had
the
same
feeling
that
all
of
y'all
did
like.
Oh
damn
it
andre
forks
everything
and
does
an
awesome
job.
B
The
problem
is,
is
that's
easier
to
do
in
d5,
because
d5
doesn't
get
as
much
traffic
as
these
nft
platforms?
Do
you
can't
if
there
was
a
d5
protocol
that
just
got
absurd
amounts
of
front
end
traffic
that
ends
up
becoming
a
moat
in
and
of
itself,
because
you
have
to
have
a
back
end
that
supports
that,
and
so,
where
this
kind
of
like
fork
abilities.
B
Everybody's
just
gonna
be
bitching
about
the
server's
always
going
down,
so
I
essentially
have
not
been
worried
about
like
a
competitor
coming
out.
That's
going
to
come
from
one
of
those
like
hey.
We
just
rushed
to
market
type
scenarios
because
I
know
like
when
I
saw
sos
like
it
was
innovative.
I
thought
the
vampire
attack
was
clever.
B
Ultimately,
they're
gonna
run
into
the
same
problem
unless
they've
been
building
a
back
end
in
silence
for
six
months,
they've
got
like
a
journey
in
front
of
them.
The
same
will
go
for
her.
Look
there
they're,
ultimately
using
the
api
of
opencv
backup,
which
has
both
you
know,
issues
with
things
being
able
to
be
like
affected
on
that
back
end,
that
you're
essentially
like
borrowing
their
servers
and
or
infrastructure
right.
B
It's
the
way
dogs
are
in
the
same
way
that
we're
probably
just
gonna
have
to
deal
with
a
little
barking.
I
have
like
300
pounds
of
dogs
and
the
guy
that
is
mowing
my
lawn.
They
don't
like
them
in
my
backyard,
but
in
the
same
way
that
well,
I
went
upstairs
now
so
you'll
still
hear
me
a
little
bit
in
the
background,
but
okay.
B
So
the
reason
that
we're
doing
that
is
because
we
could
have
done
it
sooner,
but
we
didn't
want
to
launch
what
we
had
and
essentially
keep
it
like
three
months
in
market
where
basically,
we
had
that
backing
could
get
throttled
at
any
point.
If
we
became
a
legitimate
competitor
and
then
we
just
gave
alpha
on
all
the
open
source,
smart
contracts,
as
well
as
the
interface
changes
right,
meaning
they
could
just
brick
us
and
take
all
the
code.
B
B
I
think
that
the
full
alpha
version
with
the
back
end
that
we
built
there's
a
true
enterprise
back-end.
That
will
be
competitive
with
open
seas,
back-end
we're
probably
still
five
six
weeks
away
from
that
back-end
being
complete,
and
everything
else
is
done.
The
main
thing
that
is
a
problem
on
that
back
end
is
essentially
what
scrapes
the
blockchain
and
shows
images
instantaneously,
because
a
dirty
secret
of
the
nft
industry
of
the
past
is
that
a
lot
of
those
images
don't
exist
anymore.
B
They
actually
only
exist
on
open
seas,
api
because
it
scraped
the
back
end
for
all
of
those
years,
so
figuring
out
workarounds
of
having
to
scrape
all
of
that,
get
it
in
somewhere,
which
that's
ultimately,
not
our
fault
like
in
the
olden
days.
A
lot
of
those
nfts
were
put
on
ipfs
nodes
that
don't
exist
anymore.
B
B
Crypto
pumps
were
mounted
when,
like
yeah,
nobody
was
using
ethereum
so
like
now.
If
you
wanted
to
put
like
100
megabyte
like
video
on
the
on
a
aetherium
like
you're
paying
fortune
just
to
get
the
thing
minted
back,
then
they,
you
know
they
probably
minted
all
the
crypto
punks
for
500
bucks
like
it's,
not
that
cheap
anymore,
so
like
putting
all
the
images
on
base
layer,
ethereum
just
isn't,
isn't
realistic
anymore
right.
So
people
use
the
shortcut
in
between
when,
like
defy,
was
blowing
up
and
like
when
nfts
actually
blew
up.
B
B
B
And
you
know
they're
scaling,
they're
building
money,
that's
a
legitimate
float,
but
I
do
think
that
there
is
a
massive
demand
for
a
truly
decentralized
service,
because
I
don't
think
people
would
care
about
these
kind
of
fly
by
night
like
chances
at
going
at
it.
If
there
wasn't
like
a
legitimate,
legitimate
need
in
the
market,
and
I
also
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
has
boded
well
in
our
favor,
where
we
had
a
lot
of
different
things
that
we
wanted
to
work
on.
B
So
one
thing
I
do
want
everyone
to
know
is
that,
like
I've
also
read
a
whole
bunch
that
some
of
the
times
when
I've
been
tagged
and
like,
when
is
universe,
coming,
it's
essentially
around
dcmas,
and
so
we
still
have
to
run
a
front-end
server
in
the
same
way
that
uniswap
does.
The
way
that
you
can
think
about
what's
coming
is
that
if
open
sees
coinbase
universe
is
uniswap,
universe
uniswap
had
a
long
time
to
build
when
they
were
originally
starting,
and
they
didn't
need
that
degree
of
back
end.
B
The
benefit
of
uniswap,
though,
and
where
this
becomes
actually
decentralized,
is
they
can't
stop
the
order
books?
It's
a
it's!
A
smart
contract,
that's
permissionless,
running
on
chain,
so
when
those
things
start
to
happen,
ultimately,
a
project
we're
not
going
to
get
in
everybody
else's
legal
war
for
them.
B
That's,
ultimately
the
power
that
we
are
essentially
giving
to
the
nft
community,
but
ultimately
like
I'm
not
going
to
jail
on
all
y'all's
behalf.
So
if
you
all
want
to
do
sketchy
stuff,
do
it
on
your
own
interface,
like
we
can't
uphold
like
child
porn,
we
can't
put
like
nazi
stuff
on
there.
I'm
not
trying
to
get
in
like
political
arguments,
I'm
trying
to
create
a
censorship
list
platform,
but
the
platform
is
not
just
the
interface,
so
you
can
do
with
this
as
you
please,
but
be
responsible.
B
B
We
could
have
also
gotten
taken
off
by
open
c,
but
what
I
could
have
done
as
part
of
fighting
it
is
me,
as
a
project
could
have
hosted
my
own
interface
and
continued
to
run
it
and
fought
that
legal
battle
until
I
won,
and
then
it
essentially
is
back
on
there.
So
we're
talking
about
the
aggregation
of
liquidity
as
opposed
to
this
is
just
going
to
be
like
anarchy,
and
nobody
can
stop
it
on
universe.xyz.
A
B
Right
because
then
otherwise,
like
the
people
running,
the
interface
are
essentially
liable,
but
again
it's
the
same
as
uniswap.
Right
like
I
know,
syntheman's
on
here,
like
they
took
s
euro
off
of
uniswap.
They
really
didn't.
They
didn't
take
it
off
the
protocol.
They
took
it
off
their
interface
and
that's
because
uniswap
runs
that
interface
long
term,
where
we
build
from
that.
I
don't
know
where
that
goes,
we'll
continue
to
decentralize
as
much
as
humanly
possible,
but
we
still
have
to
live
in
in
the
real
world
and
adhere
to
like
the
rules.
B
B
That
doesn't
mean
that
the
thing's
not
going
to
work
doesn't
mean
that
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
trade
nfts
list.
Nfts
do
all
the
same
things,
but
we
won't
be
truly
decoupled
until
we
release
the
other
end.
But
I
don't
think
we
need
that
in
order
to
start
so
I
know
that
the
marketplace
is
what
everybody
is
most
excited
about,
but
the
same
thing
is
actually
happening
with
minting,
which
I
think,
realistically,
we
could
launch
early
next
week,
minting's
also
kind
of
a
beta
version
alpha.
B
Our
initial
minting
contracts
that
are
going
to
exist
are
basic
minting
contracts,
they're
audited.
They
work,
we
released
them
a
while
ago
and
actually
realized
like
they
need
a
ton
of
work
by
the
time
that
the
auction
comes
out
and
there's
not
that
many
people
using
them.
Yet
people
will
use
the
minting
it's
kind
of
the
same
as
openc
people
meant
on
openc,
because
they
can
al
also
like
auction
there,
and
they
can
trade
and
interact.
B
B
B
So
we
kind
of
put
a
stop
on
it
and
said,
but,
like
those
things
are
done,
we
just
need
to
get
them
audited.
We
need
to
build
a
front
end
into
it.
So
as
soon
as
we
build
like
the
alpha
marketplace,
we'll
also
launch
alpha
minting
contracts
into
it
as
well,
and
then
we
like
are
going
to
get
a
ton
of
requests
and
changes
to
like
amend
and
build
on
top
of
those.
A
B
Able
to
put
their
own
types
of
minting
contracts
on
there,
like
we've
worked
with
a
couple.
Different
groups
like
that
had
like
very
innovative
contracts,
and
so
I
really
don't
want
like
universe
to
become
like
a
walled
garden,
ultimately,
the
more
utility
that
the
ecosystem
can
get
on
the
platform,
the
better
right
so
like,
instead
of
just
having
one
way
that
you
can
meant
again,
there's
infinite
ways
that
you
could
met.
B
Maybe
we
bake
that
in
if
people
are
going
to
be
coming
on
and
putting
on
a
bunch
of
code,
the
way
that,
like
people
in
yfi,
introduce
strategies,
people
aren't
going
to
do
that
for
free.
So
it's
just
an
option.
Governance
is
going
to
have
to
make
those
types
of
decisions
on
where
we
go,
because,
ultimately,
the
question
would
then
be.
Are
you
taking
away
from
the
artist
by
giving
them
a
ton
of
different
options?
B
Or
are
you
enabling
them
to
be
more
artistic
because
they
have
a
bunch
of
things
that
they
can
do
and
you're
not
limiting
them?
I
don't
think
we
take
fees
on
minting
and
auctions.
Obviously,
governance
can
change
their
mind
on
that
later.
This
is
how
we'll
give
it
to
the
world.
It's
ultimately
going
to
be
y'all's
decision
to
make
these
decisions
long
term,
I'm
just
kind
of
giving
you
some
options
and
how
like
this
is
going
to
be
very
different
than
the
nft
marketplaces
and
experiences
that
you
have
had
up
to
this
point.
B
Almost
all
of
them
will
probably
have
features
cut
and
then,
after
we
get
kind
of
the
alpha
marketplace
out,
then
we'll
probably
have
another
two
month
sprint
that
we
get
out
all
the
additional
features,
and
so
there's
going
to
be
a
lag
time
where
we're
fixing,
probably
bugs
that
were
missed.
We're
probably
fixing
things
that
people
just
don't
like
and
we're
trying
to
get
the
alpha
alpha
versions
of
everything
else
out.
So
there
will
be
kind
of
a
graceful
period
where
hopefully
you'll
give
us
like
a
little
bit
of
patience
and
know
everything
that's
coming.
B
But
I
think
that
everyone
knows
having
looked
at
me
and
troy's
history.
Up
to
this
point,
we're
dedicated
to
working
through
those
things
and
like
we'll
do
it
with
all
of
y'all
but
yeah.
It's
obviously
we're
not
gonna
release
the
most
perfect
thing
in
history,
but
I
do
think
it's
a
massive
step
up
to
what
exists.
Now.
B
A
All
the
main
and
in
the
right
and
in
the
right
direction,
like
there's
a
ton
of
other
work
going
on
past
this
that's
going
on.
That's
like
that's
even
the
next
step,
but
like
we
got
to
get
this
stuff
out
for
everyone.
So
you
can
understand
what
this
is
just
like:
how
uniswab
had
to
get
their
stuff
out
for
people
to
understand
what
a
decentralized
exchange
was,
and
then
you
had
people
building
stuff
on
top
of
like
lp
pools
and
how
they
used
it.
A
B
B
We
will
not
we'll
be
all
of
those
examples
that
I
gave
we
will
actually
be
more
decentralized.
Then
you
can
go
on
dune
analytics
and
look
at
all
the
token
breakdowns.
It
should
decentralize
more
over
time
with
more
usage.
That's
the
way
that
these
networks
are
supposed
to
grow,
but
being
that
it's
a
relative
term,
it's
not
going
to
be
as
decentralized
as
bitcoin
out
of
the
gate.
Right
ethereum
isn't
you've
got
to
get
there
as
an
ecosystem,
so
we're
probably
saying
decentralized
in
different
throughputs
and
mindsets.
B
B
A
D
B
So
I
think,
like
I,
was
on
an
innerdow
kind
of
community
call
earlier.
One
thing
that
troy
and
I
have
talked
about
both
through
like
barnbridge
and
universe
is
I've
started
to
do
a
lot
more
amas
and
I
think
that
it's
gonna
we
have
these
like
every
two
week
recorded
calls
ultimately
there's
things
that
we're
doing
across,
like
if
you
think
of
universe
as
a
mesh
network
that,
like
ultimately
like
polymorphs,
spawned
things
like
fluff
world
and
asm.
B
If
you
look
at
most
of
them,
they
they
have
some
type
of
dao
structure,
that's
running
them
and
that's
normally
like
a
fork
of
the
barn
bridge
dow
that
later,
like
interdou
improved
upon
so
like
one
of
our
main
goals
since
2021
was
very
much
across
everything
about
getting
the
products
out
like.
I
think
I
read
somewhere
that
like
land
works
from
inner
dial
is
like
launching
today
or
tomorrow.
B
E
B
Friday
or
saturday
not
to
interrupt
but
foreign,
but
it's
whatever
I'm
not
trying
to
drop
alpha
there.
I'm
just
saying
none
of
us
were
like
lazy
along
the
way
like,
even
with
all
of
the
barnbridge
stuff
we
had
to
get
the
products
out.
I
think
now,
we've
had
time
to
see
like
how
these
dowels
work
and
the
good
thing
about
having
this
mesh
network
of
dowels.
That's
using
similar
tech
is
what
gets
utilized
on
one
and
starts
working
for.
B
One
can
obviously
get
utilized
across
the
system,
like
even
zeus,
from
olympus,
told
me
that
a
lot
of
the
reasons
like
they
went
with
the
dow
first
was
because
he
used
to
hang
out
in
the
barnbridge
servers,
but
basically
building
those
systems
also
takes
time
and
we
could
have
spent
all
the
time
perfecting
a
dow
or
perfecting
the
products.
So
I
will
say
that
these
a
lot
of
what's
happening
in
the
slack
channels.
B
Where
I
don't
know
if
any
of
y'all
have
used
like
musli,
it's
essentially
a
design
tool
that
designers
often
use
it
every
time
that
they
like
open
a
new
tab
in
chrome.
It
like
sparks
like
design
and
inspiration,
because
it's
like
a
curated
list
of
dope
ass
designs,
essentially
well.
We
want
to
use
that
same
mechanism
to
attract
people
to
universe.
B
B
The
governance
may
eventually
have
to
move
to
a
layer
two,
if
there's
that
many
degrees
of
voting
and
that
many
things
that
we're
talking
about-
but
I
do
think
that's
gonna-
be
absolutely
like
dope,
but
that
particularly
the
way
that
I
think
that
we
offset
the
fact
that
that
thing's
not
going
to
be
necessarily
driven
by
the
dow
out
of
the
gate.
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
be
deciding
what
is
put
on
that
content
curation
in
the
complete
open
that
anyone
can
read
anyone
in
our
community.
B
B
You
know
every
two
weeks
to
hear
from
us
on
a
recorded
call
where
you
can't
just
hop
up
and
talk
to
us
if
these
things
get
huge,
we'll
probably
have
to
turn
them
into
spaces,
but
for
now
I
think
we're
good,
but,
like
I
don't,
I
wasn't
hanging
out
as
much
in
the
discord
anymore,
because
everybody
was
just
asking
when
marketplace
and
I
was
like
I
mean
we're
building
it.
It's
not
easy
right
now
that
it's
closer.
B
It
is
time
to
talk
to
everyone,
because
we
have
stuff
to
act
like
we're
going
to
be
launching
a
protocol,
there's
actually
something
to
govern.
Now.
Up
to
this
point,
there
hasn't
been
I'm
kind
of
not
answering
all
the
questions
head
on,
because
I
want
to
get
through
some
of
the
things
that
we
went
through
in
the
last
ama
because
it
wasn't
recorded
so
that
everyone
can
know
some
of
like
why
that
ama
got
like
a
lot
of
excitement
within
the
community.
B
One
of
the
things
is
particular
to
polymorphs
and
before
I
get
to
polymorphs
I'll
bring
up
like
lobby
lobsters,
I
want
to
build
into
lobby
lobsters
long
term
because
I
like
them,
but
that's
not
like
a
project
that
we
like
essentially
have
a
road
map
for
right,
like
we
gave
all
that
money
away
and
we
were
very
transparent
about
it.
We're
built
they're,
built
on
the
same
tech
stack
as
the
polymorphs,
so
we
can
build
things
into
them
long
term.
B
They
they
can't
be
a
priority
over
like
the
marketplace
right
now,
in
the
same
way
that
polymorphs
could
not
like
we
had
like
people
weren't
asking
about
polymorphs.
They
were
asking
about
the
universe
marketplace
I
mean
you
guys
can
go
look
on
the
dow.
We
haven't
moved
the
money.
We
didn't
put
it
anywhere
else,
but
we
have
not
stopped
working
on
them.
We
had
to
put
the
dev
resources
on
these
other
three
products
that
we
have
to
get
out
there.
However,
we
do
have
a
ton
in
that
same
six
months.
B
We
didn't
stop
doing
for
them,
like
we
have
like
extensive
3d
models
for
them.
We've
like
essentially
built
them.
So
they
can
be
bridged
to
crypto
voxels
we've
done
additional
like
art
projects
and
drops
that
will
be
attached
to
them
utility
that
will
be
worked
around
them.
The
battle
game
that
we
all
talked
about.
Like
we
didn't
forget,
we
still
built
it.
B
It's
audited,
we
just
it's
the
battle
game
isn't
as
important
as
the
marketplace.
That's
the
main
way
universe
is
going
to
make
money
until
we
all
work
together
as
a
dow
to
figure
it
out
long
term.
Something's
got
to
sustain
all
this,
so
ultimately,
I
would
just
say
that
we
did
not
forget
about
the
polymorphs.
We
did
not
stop
working
on
them.
B
B
We've
also
done
other
drops
that
are
away
from
the
polymorphs
that
are
like
full
universes
of
characters,
kind
of
what
we
originally
started
with.
Where
I
made
my
profile
picture
that
daryl
ape,
we
have
comics
we've
hired
copywriters
to
write
entire
comic
lines
of
stories.
One
of
the
reasons
I
stopped
talking
about
this
was
specifically
because
people
like
beanie.
I
would
talk
about
something
on
a
twitter
spaces
and
all
of
a
sudden
he
had
some
shitty
version
of
it
somewhere
else.
B
It's
all
coming
and
I'm
pretty
excited
about
it.
This
is
kind
of
my
second
time
doing
this
this
week,
so
I'm
just
getting
all
the
high
points
and
major
points,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
I
didn't
like
leave
anything
I
don't
want
to.
I
know
it's
kind
of
a
soapbox,
and
I
said
my
ama
and
everyone
can
jump
on,
but
I
want
like
troy
to
say
what
he
thinks
and
then
I'll
also
go
through
the
ama
questions
that
people
are
immediately
asking.
A
E
A
A
The
difference
with
this
is
like
the
back
end
is
not
like
this
fully
decentralized
system.
It
is
a
system
that
can
be
spun
up
and
run
anywhere,
but
those
those
instances
can
be
shut
down.
So
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
didn't
really
cover
on.
This
call
was-
and
this
came
from
ryan
and
it's
kind
of
the
way
or
chubba,
as
probably
most
of
you
guys
know
him-
is
that
the
way
that
he
we
like
we
kind
of
describe
it
is
or
I've
always
called
it.
A
There's
it's
like
this,
a
clearing
house
for
the
entire
ecosystem
of
nfts,
and
so
that
what
that
means
is
that
these
this
back
end
can
then
be
a
clearinghouse
to
like
a
play
to
earn
game,
or
it
can
be
a
clearing
house
for
like
nfts
or
like
for
any
nfts
like
that's
out
there,
but
ryan,
then
kind
of
put
it
in
a
more
granular
specter,
where
it's
like
a
three-pronged
approach.
So
I
can
get
the
tweet
for
it,
but
essentially
what
it
means
is
like
there's
the
first.
A
The
first
tier
would
be
the
ability
to
run
like
your
you'd
have
an
artist
page,
and
you
can
launch
your
product
on
this
on
our
on
our
system
and
then
you
can
then
sell
it
through
the
marketplace
and
you
would
have
the
artist
page
on
the
universe
front
end.
The
second
way
would
be
then,
to
use
our
back
end
apis
and
then
plug
it
into
like
your
play
to
earn
gain
and
then
the
other
way.
The
third,
the
third
level,
which
is
the
much
more
advanced
technologically
one
is.
A
Is
it
the
perfect
answer?
No,
and
are
we
working
on
ways
to
remedy
this
situation?
Yes,
so
as
of
right
now,
that's
the
closest
we
can
get
to
the
decentralization
of
the
entire
back
end,
but
we
are
100
working
on
getting
it
to
that
final
step,
and
this
is
when
tyler
talks
about
like
we
didn't
realize
how
hard
of
a
techno
technological
challenge
this
was
going
to
be.
B
Is
really
even
at
this
point,
but
ultimately
we
built
it
and
it's
coming.
We
just
have
to
I
mean
the
back.
End's
done
we're
rigging
up
apis,
we're
testing
it.
We
can't
release
a
shitty
product,
but
the
I
guess
one
thing
is
like
that
I'll
say
is
like
the
ability
to
run
like
fully
decentralized
storage
like
this
is
not
just
like
a
universe
problem.
Like
I
mean
I
was
out
of
nyc
new
york
and
like
juan,
who
runs
foul
coin
and
started.
B
Ipfs
was
like
in
like
a
pissing
match
argument
with
the
guy
that
runs
like
r
weave,
and
they
were
talking
about
how
they
all
fought
each
other
like
they.
Neither
one
of
them
have
built
like
a
kick-ass
solution.
That's
ready
to
like
enterprise
level
to
take
over
the
world
same
with
like
the
front
end
stuff
right
like
we
want
dfinity
to
come
through
on
some
of
this
stuff,
like
filecoin,
could
come
through
on
some
of
this
stuff.
B
You
still
can't
run
like
a
google
level
back
in
front
in
anywhere
in
the
world
on
blockchain,
and
that's
not
like.
We
can't
figure
it
out.
It's
that
the
entire
industry
is
working
towards
something
same
thing
that
I
would
say
about
the
dows,
but
I
think
that
a
lot
of
people
in
nfts
don't
they're,
not
necessarily
always
people
that
were
hanging
out
in
d5
communities
and
discords,
kind
of
learning,
the
ins
and
outs
of
kind
of
some
of
these
trade-offs
that
you
have
to
make.
B
C
A
Yeah,
I
think,
he's
gone.
I
mean
what
he's
going
into,
though,
is
like
it
is.
No
one
has
ever
actually
like
figured
out
this
problem
right.
There's
been
tons
of
different
decentralized
storage
solutions
since,
like
the
beginning
of
time
of
blockchain,
like
one
of
the
first
ones,
was
probably
storejoy
back
when
it
was
running
on
like
omni
omnicoin,
which
was
essentially
master
coin,
which
was
the
predecessor
to
like
ethereum,
and
it's
still
around
right,
but
it's
not
the
killer,
app
that
everyone's
been
looking
for,
that
there
isn't
a
decentralized
aws.
A
Yet
so
you
know
these
problems
aren't
new,
but
we're
definitely
working
through
them
and
if
we've
done
anything,
I
feel
like
we've
gotten
us
as
close
as
we
can
with
the
technology
that
we
have
at
our
hands
right
now
that
we
can
release
a
product
that
can
at
least
be
in
spirit,
decentralized
and
then
longer
term.
We
can
take
it
to
that
next
level,
and
that's
really
just
what
you
know.
A
B
Because
it's
not
open
source
and
ours
will
be
open
source
and,
like
I
said
before,
it'll
be
a
micro
service,
so
people
will
be
able
to
run
their
own
instances
and
where
this
becomes
really
important
is,
I
know
like
when
burrows
dropped.
Today,
my
wife,
the
first
time
I
was
ever
able
to
explain
to
her
like
what
the
metaverse
was
and
why
it
matters
is
once
you
have
these
virtual
worlds
like,
if
you
think
about
the
ability
for
like
when
that
travis
scott
thing
was
on.
B
Oh
my
god.
What's
that
video
game
fortnite
or
like
deadmau
and
like
those
people
pay
for
skins,
they're,
actually
able
to
go
somewhere
like
burrow,
like
party
bears
just
sign,
snoop
dogg,
well,
snoop
dogg
can
now
go
interact
with
his
fans
and
like
put
on
concerts
and
have
like
more
inclusive
events
and
and
like
this
kind
of
oculus
quest
version
of
the
metaverse
and
essentially
not
have
to
worry
about
like
getting
john
lennon.
B
So
when
those
people
need
to
plug
into
a
payment
application
layer,
since
they
are
that's
not
their
main
course
of
business,
they're-
probably
going
to
want
to
plug
into
the
one
that
has
the
most
liquidity.
So
what
is
decentralized
is,
in
my
opinion,
going
to
become
early
on
the
most
valuable
thing
about
universe.
B
As
far
as
the
marketplace
goes
is
the
fungibility
of
the
liquidity,
meaning
when
they
plug
in
to
that
protocol
on
their
interface.
They
may
only
want
to
show
the
stuff
that
they
want
sold
on
their
platform,
for
whatever
reason
right
and
that's
fine,
but
they're
able
to
plug
into
deep
liquidity,
pools
that
integrate
across
the
ecosystem
and
it
and
they're
able
to
list
things
there.
That
also,
then
show
up
on
universe.
B
So
if
you
essentially
have
this
network,
yes,
each
front-end
can
determine
what's
run
there,
but
the
the
protocol
layer
is
what's
going
to
have
the
deep
level
of
liquidity,
and
so
people
are
essentially
going
to
build
their
own
back
ends.
But
it's
still
going
to
plug
into
the
protocol,
and
that
is
what
is
so
valuable
about
this
and
the.
B
Is
when
I
was
explaining
it
to
my
wife,
I
didn't
explain
it
this
way.
What
I
told
her
is,
if
you
were
at
that
travis
scott
concert
for
fortnight,
and
those
things
were
actually
nfts
on.
Ethereum
are
solana
or
anywhere
else
like
for
when
we
go
across
platform,
we'll
go
we're
not
maxis
we'll
go
where
the
industry
goes,
we're
not
going
to
build
in
right.
Now,
most
nft
transactions
are
on
ethereum.
So
that's
where
we
built
to
the
most
valuable
transactions
on
ethereum,
that's
where
we
built
to.
B
If
that
changes,
we'll
go
where
we
need
to
go
right,
but
basically
going
back
to
the
travis
scott
analogy.
Fortnite
is
a
walled
garden.
Your
skins
are
owned
by
fortnight,
eventually,
the
whole
metaverse,
not
just
universe,
is
going
to
break
down
that
walled
garden
because
the
users
are
going
to
demand
that
they
have
transferability
and
can
use
all
of
these
skins
and
things
across
other
areas
of
where
all
this
decentralizes
so
like.
B
If
you
think
that
you're
at
that
concert
and
travis
scott
drops
something
to
you,
well,
you
can
maybe
list
it
on
that
interface,
but
it's
also
going
to
show
up
at
the
protocol
levels
for
the
universe,
interface
right.
You
walk
up
to
someone.
They
have
a
skin
for
sale
at
the
concert
you
can
buy
it
off
of
them
that'll
process
through
universe,
so
these
platforms
no
longer
have
a
reason
to
go
through
a
layer
that
can
essentially
censor
them
because
they
have
a
competitive
product.
A
B
Yeah
so
ox
robocop,
who
asked
this
question
and
we're
down
this
rabbit
hole.
Basically,
yes,
like
most
of
uniswap
track,
like
I
primarily
interact
with
uniswap
on
like
one
inch
right.
Most
of
ave's
transactions
don't
happen
on
ave.
A
lot
of
them
are
happening
through
zapper.
A
lot
of
them
are
just
protocols
plugging
into
them
right
and
the
reason
that
uniswap
is
so
powerful
and
even
sushi
has
become
so
powerful
is
a
lot
of
the
integrations
that
they
built
right.
B
B
B
We're
probably
gonna
need
the
com
the
whole
community's
help
on
docs
long
term,
because,
especially
during
the
testing
phase,
I
mean
that's
why
I
want
to
incent
like
I
don't
want
to
just
do
a
vampire
attack
that
ensures
ponzinomics
and
like
wash
trading,
I
want
to
actually
incentivize
the
community
and
open
up
the
community
to
be
more
people
and
like
these
are
some
of
the
things
they
can
help
with.
Right
is
helping
with
documentation
helping
with
all
of
these
things.
B
I
don't
really
know
if
I'm
missing
anything
like,
I
feel
like
we
kind
of
hit
everything
I
mean
other
than
I
would
say
that
all
of
these
protocols
that
I
think
everybody's
seen
that
have
like
kind
of
spawned
off
of
universe.
I
mean
you
can
ask
all
of
them
like
ask
aaron
like
fluffs,
ask
david
at
altered
state
machine,
the
the
interdial
guys
I
mean
they
came
on
as
advisors.
B
Ultimately,
this
was
harder
to
build,
so
it
took
longer,
but
I
mean
even
down
to
like
league
down
which
has
been
experimental
but
fun
as
all
of
those
are
going
to
be
plugging
into
universe
right
like
so
all
of
this
excitement.
That's
happened
around
universe
like
when
we
launch
we're
launching
with
like
an
ecosystem
that
is
growing,
so
I
think
out
of
the
gate
that
probably
seemed
like
a
distraction,
but
it
wasn't
pre-marketing.
It
was
like
pre-integrations.
A
B
If
you
look
at
the
volumes
around
what
has
happened
recently
just
on
excitement
right,
we
could,
when
we
launched,
there's,
probably
going
to
be
more
eyeballs
on
universe
right.
If
there's
not
depth
in
liquidity,
it
could
do
things
to
the
pricing
of
the
token
that
could
look
like
manipulation
and
since
we're
bringing
on
everyone
on
this
call
has
been
waiting
and
waiting
and
waiting
right.
B
I
actually
think
that
what
we
should
do
with
a
portion
of
the
xyz
and
the
eth
that's
currently
in
the
treasury
is
deepen
the
depth
of
that
liquidity
pool,
meaning
we
swap
the
eth
for
usdc
and
the
dow
joins
that
liquidity
pool.
I
don't
think
we
stake
for
rewards
because
I
think
the
deeper
the
liquidity
I'm
not
recommending
anything
about
the
price.
I'm
not
saying
it's
going
to
go
up
or
going
to
go
down,
I'm
saying
without
deep
liquidity.
B
I
think
it
could
be
volatile
and
there
it
could
be
a
bad
experience
for
new
users
that
are
just
experimenting
or
exploring
right,
and
so
I
ethically
care
about
that-
and
I
think
all
of
us
should
want
people
to
get
the
best
experience
so
I'll
probably
put
in
a
proposal
to
do
that.
It's
ultimately
not
up
to
me,
but
I
want
to
give
some
of
the
reasoning
behind
it
without
putting
myself
at
legal
liability
for
recommending,
if
anything
is
actually
going
to
happen.
I
want
to
be
proactive
so
that
nothing
does.
A
E
B
A
E
E
Our
marketplace
isn't
going
to
be
able
our
marketplace
isn't
going
to
have
those
features
built
in,
but
jeannie
is
going
to
offer
those
features
for
you
to
be
able
to
floor
sweep
and
do
all
that
cool
stuff
on
universe.
So,
while
necessarily
our
front-end
ui
won't
have
that
feature,
you
will
be
able
to
do
it
from
genie.
B
But
if
genie
does
it
because
they
sweep
the
floor
on
open
c
right
now,
right
genie's
in
an
awesome
position
to
be
an
aggregator?
It's
not
that
hard
once
genie
plugs
into
us
for
us
to
add
something
like
that
to
our
interface
right.
We
still
accumulate
fees
either
way
when
you
use
genie,
open,
c's,
making
money.
So
I
think
we
treat
genie
as
a
friend
very
much
in
the
same
way
one
inch
and
uniswapper
friends,
so
we
also
just
so.
B
Some
of
these
features
communicating
the
community
on,
like
that's
just
an
interface
level,
change
versus
that's
a
major
smart
contract
addition
that
we
have
to
go
get
audited
and
find
solidity
devs
to
do,
but
I
think
those
conversations
start
happening
in
the
open.
We
obviously
just
want
to
get
like
a
head
start
before.
We
start
like
leaking
absolute
alpha.
A
A
We're
we
are
working
on
a
lazy
minting
feature:
it's
not
gonna
launch
with
that.
I
don't
believe,
but
some
of
those
gas
fees
it
kind
of
comes
down
to
the
erc20
like
the
essentially
the
the
structure
of
the
minton
contract.
If
you're
talking
about
minting
so
the
amount
of
metadata,
that's
in
there
transfer.
B
Fees
are
just
ethereum
right,
like
tokens,
cost
more
money
to
transfer
than
eth,
which
is
why?
Because
erc's
20
is
not
ethan
isn't
in
the
rc20.
I
we've
also
been
talking
like
polygon
and
optimism.
We
chose
to
launch
on
base
layer
ethereum
because,
like
I
think
we
get
that
right
first,
but
I
mean
yes
we're.
Definitely
like
going
to
optimize
for
fees.
B
A
B
Fees
too
much
you
end
up
with
polygon
that
has
so
many
coins
in
your
like
wallet.
You
can't
even
find
the
good
ones
right
like
so
there's
and
it's
also
not
as
secure,
and
I
think
people
want
ethereum
and
have
to
use
more
than
they
want
polygon
nfd
so
like.
Ultimately,
I
think
that
the
platform
is
as
optimized
for
gas
fees
as
it
can
be,
but
it's
going
to
be
similar
because
we
both
are
like
doing
most
of
our
training.
A
Like
one
one
thing,
that's
I
mean
I
mark's
talked
about
this
that
it's
hard
to
get.
Well,
I
don't
it's
hard
to
get
from
like
if
you're
minting
on
like
a
layer,
two
back
into
ethereum
into
another
layer,
two
that's
really
hard,
but
if,
like
let's
say,
you're
like
minting
on
base
layer
right
because
everyone's
looking
for
that
base
layer,
ethereum
stuff,
and
then
you
take
it
into
a
layer
two
for
marketplace.
A
B
Are
you
asking
like
a
leading
question
because,
like
you
might
have
gotten
alpha
from
like
algae
or
mark
or
someone
else
and
like
I
know
certain
about
universe,
that
mark
doesn't
know,
troy
knows
stuff
that
I
don't
know,
because
it's
not
one
product
right
like
there's
some
aspects
of
divide
and
conquer
and
so
like.
If
somebody
told
you
that
I
mean
we
can
verify
it
for
like
100,
but
I
don't
actually.
I
legitimately
don't
know
that
and
then
also
what
you're
asking
about
high
grade
analytics
for
collections.
B
B
The
secondary
aspect
of
it
is
going
to
be
a
much
more
community,
driven
where
maybe
even
xyz
doesn't
deserve
to
dictate.
What's
on
the
board,
eight
page,
ultimately,
we
vote
on
that
stuff.
Right,
like
we
can
revoke
access
for
things
if
things
get
out
of
hand,
but
yeah.
That's
like
we're
100
working
on
that,
and
I
think
that
it's
going
to
be
a
very
powerful
tool
to
bring
a
lot
of
people
to
universe,
but
it's
going
to
be
iterative,
we're
going
to
essentially
roll
it
out
slowly,
decentralize
it
over
time.
B
We
weren't
focused
on
decentralizing
that
part
of
it,
because
the
other
parts
of
what
we're
building
that
everybody's,
asking
for
not
nice
to
haves
but
like
existential
for
the
system,
are
what
we
spent
most
of
our
time
decentralizing,
but
yeah.
There's
going
to
be
we
we're
not
launching
a
clone
of
open
c
is
the
easiest
way
to
put
it.
I
think,
in
the
community,
when
some
of
these,
like
kind
of
surface
level
competitors
launched
we've,
probably
seen
like
one
really
cool
tool.
B
I
don't
think
that
we're
offering
one
really
cool
tool
or
one
piece
of
differentiation,
we're
launching
the
main
one
is
obviously
going
to
be
the
decentralized
aspect
of
it,
which
is
most
important,
but
I
don't
think
the
average
user
always
cares
about
that.
They'll
care
about
it
long
term,
but
the
actual
experience
of
our
platform
is
going
to
have
a
lot
of
features
that
are
different
and
new.
C
B
Just
used
you
as
an
example,
maybe
you
talked
that
out
because
I
know
everybody's,
like
friends
with,
like
ally
nick
mark,
like
not
only
do
they
work
for
universe
but
they're,
also
like
deeply
embedded
within
the
nft
community,
and
I
also
got
off
the
last
ama
and
you
were
still
talking
some.
So
I
didn't
like
basically
the
way
gunner's
describing
this
is.
It
sounds
like
he
has
alpha
and
I
I
was
saying
I
personally
don't
know
if
you
heard
that
from
somewhere
else
it
doesn't
mean
it's
not
true.
A
C
B
C
That
is
a
marketplace
that
is
a
that
is
a
aggregator,
so
gem
and
genie
will
be
two
protocols
that
we
integrate
with
it
probably
and
they
will
allow
people
to
easily
buy
nfts
through
universe
in
in,
like
certain
using
certain
functions
that
maybe
we
haven't
built.
Yet
I
guess,
but
I'm
like
the
only
thing
that
you
can
do
on
genie
right
now,
that
open
c
doesn't
allow,
for
example,
is
you
can
bulk
list
and
bulk
buy
and
you
can
trade,
your
nfts
for
others
so
like?
B
B
Because
I've
been
so
busy
building
this
product
that,
after
we
launched
after
we
kicked
off
the
profile
picture
movement
with
pepe,
I
didn't
get
to
enjoy
it
the
same
way
as
some
of
you
djinns
did.
I
mean
I
did,
but
I
actually
didn't
know
what
jim
was,
but
that's
one
of
the
benefits
of
universes
we're
kind
of
a
mesh
network.
B
E
C
C
C
Why
can't
I
bulk
lists
or
bulks
bulk
buy
items
genie
is
base,
that's
basically
what
genie
the
people
who
made
genie
thought,
and
so
they
built
a
tool
for
it,
connected
it
to
open
seas
so
that
they
don't
have
to
have
their
own
marketplace
built
they
just
they
just
make
it
to
where
you
can
easily
buy
and
list
your
items
on
openc
or
any
other
marketplace
wearable.
They
also
have
integrated
they'll,
integrate
universe,
because
we've
already
I've
already
talked
to
the
founders
and
they're
excited
about
it
genie
and
gem.
C
And
basically,
when
you
have
something
listed
on
universe,
let's
say
the
floor
on
the
polymorphs
is
like
point
one
and
there's
like
ten
listed.
Somebody
could
go
in,
and
click
click
on
all
of
them.
They
could
even
go
past
point
one
and
just
sweep
as
many
as
they
want
in
one
transaction
and
then
the
same
goes
for
listing
like
if
you
wanna
list
all
your
nfts
at
point,
one
they're
like
just
dump
them
all.
C
You
can
go
and,
like
click
all
your
nfts
and
then
you
have
to
individually
sign
for
each
one,
but
it
happens
like
way
faster
than
trying
to
go
through
and
do
it
on
openc,
especially
if
you
have
like
a
lot
of
nfts
like
I
have
600
nfts,
so
using
genie
to
list
items
is
actually
really
helpful
for
me,
because
open
c
is
like
takes
forever
to
load
and
it'll
just
like
allow
me
to
do
it
a
lot
faster.
So
it's
just
like
a
it's
not
like
a
competitor
in
any
way.
C
B
We
we've
developed
a
lot
of
friends
and
connections
in
the
industry
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
waiting
for
universe
to
ship
outside
of
just
what
kind
of
spawned
off
of
us
directly,
and
I
know
that
the
people
in
this
ecosystem
in
the
community
outside
of
the
core
team
are
also
putting
in
work
and
making
introductions
and
talking
to
people
all
the
people
that
are
on
that
level
involved
in
this
project.
Right
they've
just
been
waiting
like
everyone
else,.
B
A
D
A
E
We
did
have
issues
last
time
getting
some
stuff
delivered
because
of
covet,
but
our
work
around
is.
We
actually
have
eu
and
like
australian,
basically
like
merchandise,
companies
out
there
that
are
going
to
basically
support
us
and
help
us
get
stuff
shipped
out
faster.
So
it's
all
the
same
gear
like
all
getting,
but
it's
it's
all
getting
sourced
a
little
bit
closer
to
home
on
some
of
you
guys,
because
last
year
during
covid
we
had
some
problems
with
some
of
the
mail,
but
we
think
that
this
is
going
to
solve
it.
E
A
lot
quicker,
so
some
of
our
some
of
our
more
international
people
can
get
their
gear
a
lot
faster
than
than
they
did
last
time
so
but
yeah
everyone.
If
you
bought
that
gear,
you
know
it's
like
high
quality.
I
talked
about
this
like
I,
like
all
my
gear
that
I
got
from
them
is
like
still
awesome,
like
black
hoodies
that
didn't
fade,
they're
super
comfortable,
so
the
they're.
B
Whoever
that
guy's
getting
to
make
his
stuff
is
gonna,
make
it
but
mark's
right.
I
mean
also
where
they're
going
with
this,
the
like
the
barnbridge
stuff.
It
was
just
a
hoodie
right,
like
what
those
guys
are
doing
with
that
going
forward
is,
is
dope,
like
I
mean
when
they
originally
dropped
the
barnbridge
ones.
I
think
they
came
with
like
nfts
but
like
I
think
they
know
where
the
metaverse
is
headed.
Now
it's
a
year
since
the
barnbridge
one
came,
so
I
think
that
they're
building
additional
features
into
them.
E
E
B
B
C
B
The
collection,
the
from
the
first
merch
drop
I'll,
do
something
with
them.
One
day
like
I'm,
not
giving
out
a
roadmap,
we
got
a
lot
of
other
to
build,
but
those
I
just
I
that
wasn't
even
barnbridge
right.
I
just
did
it
myself
and
paid
for
it
out
of
pocket,
and
I
just
wanted
to
reward
the
early
people.
I
didn't
even
know.
Universe
was
something
that
we
were
going
to
get
into,
but
the
other
thing,
I
would
say,
is
yeah.
I
was.
A
E
C
B
Didn't
do
it
for
any
other
reason
to
just
be
able
to
track
the
super
early
people
that
put
on
because
they're
a
bunch
of
anonymous
frogs
right
which
I'm
going
to
bring
something
up
in
a
second.
But
one
thing
I
want
to
say
about
the
merch.
That's
really
important
and
I
want
to
drive
into
everyone-
is
like
small
things
that
we've
done
along
the
way
to
ensure
that,
like
this
is
truly
community
run.
B
Is
that
all
of
like
our
trademarks,
like
all
of
our
content,
like
everything
that
we
drop,
is
creative?
Commons,
like
we
can't
even
dcma
people
for
polymorphs
like
because
we
never
licensed?
All
of
that
all
of
the
code
is
open
source,
which
is
why
fluffsworld
was
able
to
use
some
of
the
components
of
the
fluffs
altered
state
machine
just
used
some
of
the
I
mean.
B
That's
very
important
is
just
even
down
to
the
level
of
like
we're
a
dow
there's
not
a
way
for
a
dow
to
own
ip,
at
least
not
now
stuff,
that
troy's
working
on
long
term
but
like
ultimately
like
that's,
not
just
foreign
everyone's
everything
we
drop
is
everyone's
and
it's
important
that
you
all
know
that
that's
like
how
some
of
the
things
are
structured
so
like
yeah,
jen's
stuff,
isn't
going
to
the
dow,
but
he
took
the
initiative.
He
made
a
dope
ass
drop.
B
I
think
the
whole
community
benefits
off
of
it
and
it
brings
more
utility
to
our
ecosystem.
But
ultimately
you
don't
need,
like
our
permission
now,
if
you
go
off
and
do
terrible
stuff
with
the
brand
then
like
us
as
all
like,
a
collective
can
say
that
you're
damaging
us,
if
you
start
doing
like
terrible
things
with
it.
So
like
don't
go
crazy,
you
don't
want
to
like
piss
off
a
whole
ecosystem
of
autistic
nft
degens,
but
like
ultimately
we're
we're,
not
dcma
anyone.
B
B
We
try
because
a
lot
of
y'all
stuck
around
and
there's
been
fud
and
and
people
thinking
we
gave
up
or
retired
or
gave
up
on
the
polymorphs
like
prowess
came
in
early
on.
This
is
also
about
how
we're
trying
to
empower
like
community
engagement
and
start
to
blur
these
lines
longer
term.
That
doesn't
mean
that
everybody
like
can
have
a
job
tomorrow,
like
the
dow
and
the
that
that
multisig
was
ultimately,
I
mean
a
lot
of
just
even
like
our
core
team's
funding
put
into
it.
B
B
He's
been
nothing
but
like
a
gem
to
the
whole,
like
nft
community
burn
address,
I'm
pretty
sure.
That's
a
core
team
member
gunner
never
left
anywhere,
I'm
not
just
going
to
call
every
person
out
like
a
zom
came
in
and
does
a
ton
of
work
like
banana
mercy.
Never
left
ben
has
stuck
around
and
stuck
with
us
navi
started
with
nfts
because
of
universe
and
now
is
provide.
B
I
said
to
someone
recently,
I
think
navi's
30
percent,
of
the
reason
that
fluff
world
or
where
they're
at
right
now,
just
in
terms
of
like
shilling
skills,
donovan's
like
one
of
the
only
people
that
never
changed
this
polymorph
picture
after
people
thought
we
like
gave
up
on
them.
Fluffernutter
that
person
has
done
a.
I
mean
flop
for
nutters
like
another
navi
navi's,
just
done
nothing
but
work
for
the
fluffy
ecosystem.
B
Honestly,
our
customer
service
probably
would
have
sucked.
If
we
didn't
have
someone
that
organized
that,
like
knew
their
with
it,
I
mean
I
could
go
down
all
the
polymorph
people,
but,
like
I
see
I
don't
know
like
every
single
person
right
but
like
lindy
markler,
I've
seen
you
all
continue.
Ask
questions
max
collection,
that's
the
guy
that
probably
has
a
bunch
of
punks
in
a
wallet
that
he's
never
gonna
find
but
he's.
Hopefully,
the
whole
ecosystem
hasn't
stopped.
Like
arthur
hayes.
B
I
hope
we
find
out.
You
actually
are
arthur
hayes
one
day
like
pavel's
core
team
like
pavlo
bendis
doesn't
even
get
compensated
from
universe.
He
just
helps
because
he
loves
it
and
he's
done
nothing
but
work
like
sent
the
man.
I
think
you
just
follow
us
kind
of
everywhere,
because
we're
all
we
love
synthetics
as
much
as
you
love
our
trans
mental
tried
to
originally
like
work
with
us
as
a
creative
director.
B
B
Plus
it
helps
when
things
aren't
perfect
in
the
beginning,
because
it
lets
people
well,
it
lets
the
protocol
decentralize
a
little
more
than
if
we
just
come
out
of
the
gate
and
never
just
never
had
any
hard
times,
but
then
further
than
that.
I
think
it
also
like
builds
a
stronger
bond.
So,
like
I
I'm
not
lying
like
it's
coming,
it's
gonna
be
fire,
I'm
pumped
about
it.
D
A
B
I
want
to
aaron
and
like
that
community
too,
right,
like
a
lot
of
people,
could
have
used
what
we
started
and
like
us
or
front,
ran
us,
or
I
mean
I've
worked
with
aaron
for
a
long
time
and
trust
him.
So
he's
not
one
of
them,
but
like
they
also
didn't
try
to
grift
right
like
they
went
and
created
something
dope
on
their
own
like
enter
dow.
Didn't
try
to
build
some
shitty
version,
like
the
things
that
popped
up
around
universe
are
like
not
copy
pasta.
B
Cash
grab
same
with
like
league
doubt
so,
like
I
mean
even
charged
particles
and
alluvium
like
we
were
involved
with
them.
When
all
this
was
like
starting
like
we
haven't,
stopped
talking
to
those
people.
We
have
plans
to
build
into
all
this
that
stuff
long
time
genie
I've
been
talking
with
the
genie
team
since
like
may,
whenever
they
started
even
introducing
that
tool
like
I
was
helping
them
like
beta
test
it
so
like.
I
will
say
that
I
think
that
there's,
no
I'm
not
just
excited
about
what
we've
created
for
our
own
product.
B
E
B
Ultimately
sosa
is
right,
though,
like
I
mean
microsoft's
trying
to
build
like
excel
spreadsheets
in
the
metaverse,
like
they're,
late
they're
too
late,
because
imagine
like
they
wouldn't
even
know
what
any
of
the
means
in
this
like
ama
like
if
they
went
into
like
our
general
chat.
They
wouldn't
know
like
what
anyone
was
talking
about
like
we
didn't
build
the
metaverse
for
boomers.