►
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
Hello
folks
today
is
april
19th.
This
is
the
north
american
time
zone
friendly
meeting
meeting
at
noon
eastern
time
the
hack
md
is
in
the
chat,
so
please
put
your
name
etc
right.
So
without
further
ado,
does
anyone
have
a
status
update,
even
if
you
haven't
written
it
yet
feel
free
to
give
it
pause
a
moment.
A
B
Hi
I
can
give
a
brief
update
here.
I
was
just
trying
to
find
a
link
that
I've
done
not
prepared,
so
I
don't
have
the
link
ready
so
for
docs,
I'm
just
you
know,
plugging
away
on
one
nine
docs.
We
have
a
lot
of
issues
for
improvements
to
the
docs
for
one
nine
setup
and
which
we
have
a
documentation
board
that
I
can
send
a
link
in
the
chat
for,
and
we
can
add
it
to
the
the
docs.
B
If
you
wanna
know
what
we're
updating
for
one
nine
and
there's
one
pr
in
particular,
I
wanted
to
call
out
to
the
community
and
that's
for
a
update
to
our
the
side,
navigation
on
the
side
of
the
website,
so
we're
trying
to
refine
what's
there
to
make
it
a
little
more
updated.
I'm
not
sure
if
we've
actually
looked
into
it
since
we
published
the
website
so
just
making
sure
that
all
the
pages
show
up
in
the
the
side,
navigation
and
kind
of
rearranging
some
things
that
show
up
there.
A
I'll
put
it
in
the
chat
and
then
abby,
you
can
add
it
to
the
you
can
add
it
to
the
hack
md
after
and
I'll
just
point
out,
handy
dandy
thing.
So,
as
abby
said
yeah
this
is
to
like
make
the
table
of
contents
easier
to
read
and
abby
did
something
wonderful.
She
not
only
made
the
pr
but
also
there's
a
link
here
where
you
can
view
the
preview.
So
you
can
look
at
this,
it's
clickable
and
you
can
compare
it
to
what's
currently
there.
A
B
Yeah,
no,
that's
that's
all
I
wanted
to
highlight
for
today.
It's
you
know,
still
draft
the
pr
still
draft,
so
we're
still
figuring
out
some
kinks
and
making
sure
that
everything
is.
It
is
right
and
will
be
moving
us
forward
for
the
project.
But
if
you
have
any
thoughts,
we'd
love
to
hear
you
hear
what
your
thoughts
are.
Thank
you
any
questions
for
abby.
A
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
discussion
topics
abby,
definitely
for
status
update
if
you
want
to
type
that
out
for
folks
who
are
not
present,
that
would
be
great
two
discussion
topics,
one
so
kubecon
north
america.
The
cfp,
I
think,
opened
in
march
and
it
ends
may
27th
boy.
I
could
have
put
more
information
I'll
do
that
after
whenever
someone
else
is
talking.
A
The
reason
I
want
to
bring
it
up
is
that
the
vmware
folks,
you
know
most
all
of
our
maintainers-
are
in
china
now,
but
they're
certainly
interested
in
pairing
on
something
that
you
know
they
would
have
to
do
a
virtual
talk,
but
we
might
submit
a
cfp
so
but
we're
really
interested
in
kind
of
collaboration,
because
it's
just
more
interesting
when
it's
not
just
one
company
representing
valero,
we've
got
a
really
diverse
corporate
diversity,
very
diverse
whatever
I
can't
get
the
words
right.
Anyways,
all
that's
to
say
is.
A
If
anyone
here
has
any
interest
in
pairing
with
us
at
vmware
to
do
kind
of
submit
a
cfp,
we
can
spit
multiple
ones.
Anyone
who
wants
to
submit
their
own
absolutely
should
as
well.
You
know
the
more
folks
talk
about
valera
the
better
but
feel
free
to
say
now.
If
you
want-
or
you
can
ping
me
or
probably
daniel
will
be
the
point
of
contact.
But
okay,
I
see
sean
as
a
stand-up
go
for
it.
D
Is
there
a
list
of
talks
that
you're
looking
for
already
or
is
this
like?
We
also
want
to
figure
out
the
topics
for
the
talks
and
collaborate
on
the
full
thing.
A
It's
real
yeah,
so
good
question
for
sure.
Anyone
who
has
a
talk
they
want
to
talk
about
like.
Let's
do
that.
I
will
and
I'll
do
this
kind
of
I'll
mention
that
in
the
past,
just
to
kind
of
get
the
creative
juice
going
in
the
past
past
topics
which
have
not
been
accepted.
So
this
take
this
with
a
grain
of
salt
have
been
like
you
know:
valero
or
valera
101.
Oh
sorry,
I'll
list,
past
topics
and
I'll
list
the
feedback
we
got
so
valero
101.
A
We
tried
to
do
like
what
data
protection
do
you
need
for
kate's,
and
then
we
were
thinking
about
kind
of
astrolay
when
we
were
more
focused
on
that.
So
these
are
like
two
examples
of
what
we
could
cover
another
and
and
I'll
mention
that
the
feedback
we
kind
of
got
was
that
kubecon
does
not
really
or
the
cncf
doesn't
want
single
vendor
like
promotion,
they
don't
want.
You
know
random
vendors
going
to
be
like
use
my
product,
so
it
sounds
like
the
valero
101
is
actually
a
particularly
bad
idea.
A
That's
promoting
valero!
It
seems
to
me
like
if
it's
like,
hey,
let's
talk
about
data
protection
and
then
mention
valeria
a
little
bit.
That
would
be
more
along
the
lines
of
what
they're
looking
for.
That
being
said,
that
proposal
was
not
accepted,
but
maybe
a
different
one
would
be
and
an
idea
that
I
know
daniel
had
so
one
idea.
A
A
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
or
comments
for
that.
Oh
sorry,
let
me
one
moment
so
if,
if
you
are
interested
so
please
reach
out
on
dev
or
ping
daniel.
A
E
A
Good
question
and
with
orlan
actually
is
really
involved
in
the
cncf,
so
really
great
question
to
maybe
save
till
next
week.
When
he's
here,
I
think
it's
the
idea.
A
I
think
it's
in
general
the
idea
that
they
don't
want,
especially
like
for-profit
vendors
being
like.
Let
me
tell
you
about
my
product
kind
of
like
just
like
it's
like
a
it's
like
a
commercial
almost
for
their
product
is
what
the
talk
is
valero,
I'm
surprised
they
say
that
about
because
we're
open
source-
and
I
think
of
us
as
like-
actually
helping
the
whole
community,
but
I
think
that
we
still
fall
under
that.
This
is
just
kind
of
like
low-key
stuff.
I've
heard
from
vmware
folks
who
have
been
involved
in
like
editing.
A
Sorry
reviewing
cfp
proposals,
so
it's
this
idea
that
they
want
to
hear
things
that
kind
of
seem
to
apply
to
all
of
kubernetes,
not
that
focus
on
a
particular
vendor.
A
So
it
shouldn't
be
valero
this
valero,
that
it
should
be
data
protection,
kubernetes
data
movement,
kubernetes,
migration
and
kubernetes,
oh,
and
by
the
way,
at
the
end,
we
might
mention
that
valeria.
Does
it.
So
does
that
that's
my
understanding,
but
definitely
orlan
might
be
at
the
same
more
next
week.
F
And
you
guys
are
open
for
panel
discussions,
demos,
everything
right.
A
Absolutely
with
the
caveat
that
are
on
the
vmware
side,
we
might,
we
might
not
be
able
to
do
it
in
person,
but
it's
also
fine
to
like
apply
somewhere
and
you
can
always
have
like
we'll
drop
out
or
yes.
The
short
answer
is
yes,
we're
open
to
everything.
A
Good
great.
I
think,
let's
put
it
this
way,
it
takes
like
a
couple
hours
to
submit
this,
like
I've
done
for
now,
and
then
all
four
have
been
failures,
but
you
write
like
a
one
paragraph,
a
blurb.
You
write
another
paragraph
about
how
it
applies
to
the
ecosystem,
it's
worthwhile,
to
give
it
a
try.
I
think
so.
A
Okay
and
now
our
favorite
topic
data
mover
design
at
the
minimum.
I
want
this
to
be
an
advertisement
for
what
I
think
of
shoe
pump
posted.
So
if
you
all
click
into
that
slack
link,
which,
of
course,
I
can't
show
you
anyways-
basically,
oh
yeah,
here
I'll
bring
up
the
pr
so
shoe
bomb
and
the
other
actually
sorry
shoe
pump.
Do
you
just
want
to
talk
about
this
and
and
advertise
what
what
this
is
and
why
people
should
look
at
it?
Instead,
me
speaking.
F
So
this
is
like
the
accumulation
of
whatever
or
everyone
involved
in
the
data
mode.
Discussions
have
come
to
an
agreement
so
that
we
move
forward
with
the
implementation
or
like
forward
with
the
design
of
the
api
interface.
So
this
is
like
this
contains
the
problem
statement,
the
motivation,
the
use
cases
and
the
user
workflows.
F
So
before
this
had
the
csi
bits,
I
have
removed
everything,
and
this
is
now
like
agnostic
to
all
the
object
that
creates
object
agnostic.
So
this
is
something
which
everyone
agreed
upon.
So
I
was
thinking
that,
like
we
had
were
thinking
that,
if
this
is
something
we
can
agree
upon
and
get
this
merged,
then
we
can
have
different
discussions
about
the
interface.
A
Let
me
be
the
first
to
say:
thank
you
so
much
for
going
back
and
and
kind
of
doing
the
hard
work
of
integrating
what
we
discussed
and
kind
of
clarifying.
So
thank
you
and
I
I
see
the
diagrams
look,
awesome,
vmware
lisa
on
the
vmware
side.
I
was
just
talking
to
daniel
and
jalen
this
morning
and
so
they're
already
starting
to
look
at
it
and
our
hope
is
to
finish
our
review
by
early
next
week,
but
hopefully
you'll
keep
getting
comments,
so
at
least
our
eyes
are
on
it.
Thank
you.
A
I'd
encourage
everyone
else
who
kind
of
represents
a
stakeholder
to
please
please.
Please
look
at
it
in
the
next
few
days
and
try
to
get
your
feedback
in
by
early
next
week,
so
we
can
keep
kind
of
digesting
and
moving
on
yeah.
F
And
one
more
thing
that
this
doesn't
contain
anything
regarding
the
interface
and
design.
This
is
just
what
we
would
say,
use
cases
and
requirements.
A
A
A
That's
a
great
progression.
Let
me
pause
other
shubham,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
say
more
or
are
there
other
folks
questions
comments?
I
know.
A
A
Okay
and
that's
fine,
then,
especially
if
thong's
gonna
be
back
next
week
and
we'll
review
next
week,
I'm
sure
we
can
extend
it
by
a
few
days,
just
knowing
that
it's
just
okay.
So
what
I
would
say
is
if
you
have
that
plan,
if
you
can
like
post
that,
maybe
or
something
if
you
plan
to
have
him
review,
that
that
would
be
great
to
call
out.
A
Well,
I
will
wait
kind
of
give
a
few
more
seconds
to
see
if
anyone
wants
to
talk
about
data
mover
stuff
and
a
few
more
seconds
for
anyone
else
to
put
any
other
discussion
topics.
Otherwise
we
might
end
quite
early
so
I'll
do
it.
A
G
So
so
I
just
said
it
was
just
to
bug
those.
So
a
general
question
does
yes
valero.
If
I
back
up
a
humanities
version,
knight,
1.19
or
1.20,
can
it
be
restored
241?
G
A
C
Yeah,
I
was
going
to
say
if
you're
talking
about
backing
up
on
an
older
version
and
restoring
to
a
newer
version,
that's
one
of
those
things
that
really
should
always
work.
Because
one
of
the
stated
I
mean
again,
I
don't
know,
what's
tested,
that's
a
different
question
that
we
should
ask,
but
that's
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
we've
always
said
that
valeria
can
be
used
for
is
for
upgrading
upgraded
situations.
So
you
got
back.
You
know
you
you
back
up
on
the
older
cluster
which
around
the
nerve.
C
G
Yeah,
actually,
maybe
I
misspoke
so
yeah,
so
the
backup
was
from
121
and
restored
to
120..
D
Only
thing
that
I
can
think
about
that
you
would
maybe
run
into
that-
you
should
think
about
is
if
you
have
either
crds
or
if
there's
any
api,
deprecations
and
removals
that
have
happened,
that
you
are
using
in
the
old
cluster.
So
when
you
go
to
the
new
cluster,
those
apis
won't
be
available
when
they
you
try
to
restore
those
objects,
they're,
obviously
not
going
to
be
able
to
be
restored.
So
that
would
be
the
only
thing
that
I
could
add
to
this.
D
That
would
potentially
be
something
to
consider
just
to
make
sure
that
you
know
if
you're
not
running
into
any
of
those
situations,
yeah.
G
So
we
tried
it
and
yeah
it's
not
working.
We
were
having
issues
with
the
end
point.
C
A
A
A
And
it's
possible:
we
should
document
that
I
did
want
to
call
out
that
we
have
two
things
kind
of
in
the
works
that
possibly
might
have
answered
your
question,
although
maybe
not
quite
we
do
in
our
readme
on
you
know
the
blair
github,
hopefully
folks
do
realize
we
do
have
this
compatibility,
matrix
and
and
yay
which,
by
the
way,
we
should
make
sure
we
update
for
one
nine.
I
want
to
make
that
note
one
moment:
1.9
compatibility.
A
C
C
There
may
be
some
cause
for
some
other
documentation
to
say.
In
other
words,
if
the
backup
was
done
on
a
given
valero
version,
you
know
and
a
given
kubernetes
version:
where
can
you
restore
it
and
the
answer
may
be,
it's
got
to
be.
You
know
same
or
newer
for
restore
as
backup,
but
but
then,
but
you
also
have
the
question,
not
just
different
cluster
versions,
but
also
different
valeria
versions.
If
you
did
backup
with
valero
one
six,
for
example,
can
you
use
that
backup
blur
one
seven
one,
eight,
you
know
again
in
theory.
C
C
G
Yeah,
so
that's
what
I
was
looking
for,
I
mean
so
yeah.
This
was
tested,
one
eight,
both
the
backup
and
distro
were
done,
but
yeah
I
mean
it
makes
sense.
It's
not
guaranteed
controlled.
D
A
Well,
good
question:
sorry,
we
didn't
have
quite
the
answer
for
you,
but
still
good
discussion.