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A
A
And
so
this
is
a
w3c
call.
We
have
these
every
two
weeks
and
the
focus
of
each
one
is
to
try
to
build
the
standards
which
underpin
open,
active
and
helped
to
really
support
all
the
data,
publishers
and
data
users
in
what
they're
doing,
which
is
sharing
data
to
get
people
more
active.
So
the
focus
of
this
call
is
on
disabilities.
We
have
a
previous
call
which
I'll
touch
on
which
covered
that
topic
and
folks.
A
D
F
A
A
A
Okay,
well,
that's
fine!
We
can
we'll
make
do
with
that.
Okay,
no
problem
at
all.
So
great
thanks!
Everybody!
That's
really
good!
So
I'll
just
crack
on
and
share
my
screen,
and
so
you
can
see
where
I
can
do
a
quick
intro
and
my
plan
here
is
sorry
to
say:
I'm
Nick
Evans
from
the
ODI.
That's
useful!
Isn't
it
the.
A
A
A
A
So
it's
the
survey
that
the
stuff
I'm
about
to
kind
of
talk
about
is
it's
really
just
what's
been
published,
rather
than
what
we
should
have
there's
no
kind
of
in
an
ideal
world
X,
it's
very
much
bottom
up,
rather
than
top
down
so
there's
two
things:
there's
a
property
which
is
called
accessibility,
information,
which
is
a
free
text.
Property
British
Cycling,
for
example,
have
populated
up
with
this
information
here.
A
So
this
route
is
being
British
lacking,
assess
they've,
put
some
information
in
there
about
where
you
can
find
out
more
information,
but
the
fields
at
the
moment
where
this
has
been
filled
in
the
data
sources
haven't
really
been
that
specific,
it's
usually
very
generic
like
this.
It's
a
statement
of
their
policy
rather
than
specifically
about
an
event.
Nevertheless,
this
isn't
attribute
on
the
event.
So
in
theory,
you
could
customize
this
per
event
to
make
it
quite
clear
and
what
what
the
participant
shouldn't
shouldn't
expect.
A
The
other
thing
we
have,
so
that's
that's
kind
of
free
text.
Don't
thing
we
have
is
something
called
a
controlled
vocabulary
for
a
big
list
of
options,
and
that
is
this
list.
It
was
originally
the
top
five
and
I'm
Jade
I.
Think
in
in
consultation
with
the
FDS,
has
come
up
with
a
additional
one,
which
is
social
or
behavioral
problems,
and
so
we've
got
visual
hearing
physical
and
learning
impairment,
as
well
as
mental
health
issues
and
social
and
behavioral
problems.
A
A
A
Problem
at
all
and
we've
just
we
just
started
with
the
content,
so
we've
just.
We
just
said
that
there's
a
effectively
a
drop-down
list
of
accessibility,
support
options,
visual
hearing,
physical
learning
and
mental
health
issues,
as
well
as
social
behavioral
problems
and
there's
also
a
free
text,
description
which
of
the
two
current
ways
you
can
describe
accessibility.
A
So
this
is
about
whether
the
event
itself
is
suitable
and
then
there's
also
a
special
requirements
list
she's
proposal
67,
which
is
a
very
big
list.
I,
wouldn't
read
them
all
out,
but
to
give
those
who
can't
see
the
slides
of
flavor
they're
things
like
cancer
support,
dementia,
stroke,
autism,
weight
management,
pregnancy.
A
So
it's
a
quite
a
broad
range
of
special
requirements,
which
you
can
tag
again
against
the
event
itself,
and
this
is
this
is
IMD's
proposal,
and
so
there
were
two
new
proposals
in
addition
to
that
before
the
core
we
had
another
suggestion,
which
was
just
thought:
I'd
raise
with
everybody,
which
is
this
disabled,
go
icons,
so
brilliant
they've
got
19
different
icons
that
can
be
used
to
assess
a
venue,
so
you
can
and
and
they're
quite
well
described.
So
it's
it's
more
of
a
objective
measure.
A
B
H
Go
back
to
previous
page,
the
one
where
you've
got
the
mobile
Accord
disabilities
actually
and
when
it
says
special
special
requirements
in
what
ways
autism
is
special
requirements
or
counselor
special
requirement,
I'm
not
sure
I
get
the
context
there.
So
forgive
me
if
I've
kind
of
I
should
know
that,
but
I
don't
quite
get
it.
Yes,.
A
H
A
B
My
initial
feedback
on
this
list
is
that
it's
a
bit
of
a
mixture
of
things
without
wanting
to
create
a
thousand
different
lists,
but
autism
as
the
example
given
is
quite
different
from
residential
home
slash
days
center,
and
you
know
that
could
mean
a
variety
of
things
as
well.
Whether
that's
for
older
people
with
people
or
people
who
have
special
needs
means
the
experts
to
please
chip
in
people
who
have
always
been
to
this
area.
D
Yeah
I
think
I
would
reiterate
that
so
it's
Michelle
from
Richmond,
Greeks
and
yeah.
It
feels
a
little
bit
like
a
mixed
mixed
bag
and
I'm
just
wondering
about
how
people
would
identify
with
with
some
of
these
all
with
the
previous
property
list,
because,
for
example,
I
represent
charity
people
on
some
conditions
and
they
wouldn't
necessarily
say
that
they
have
impairment.
It
might
be.
You
know,
they've
got
lots
of
things
going
on
it's
how
people
may
describe
it
and
so
you're
just
trying
to
make
it
so
that
it's
relevant
to
people
again.
H
The
another
comment
here
is
just
looking
at
some
of
the
work
we
do
in
calendar,
where
they're
more
strongly
focused
I.
Think
on
on
support
is,
they
would
tend
to
say
this
particular
activity
supports
disabilities
and
they
wouldn't
say
it's
for
autism
or
Parkinson's
or
struck.
It
wouldn't
be
that
level
of
granularity,
but
I
think
the
fact
is,
if
they're
aware
of
disabilities
is
it
supports
them,
then
it
kind
of
probably
supports
most.
There
may
be
distinct
between
the
physical
type.
Disabilities
means.
A
It's
a
question
I
suppose
worth
asking
the
group
is,
is
do
we
think
this
level
of
granularity,
I
supposes
so
I
suppose
there's
two
discussions.
Here's
there's
is
this
type
of
information
useful
to
capture,
and
then
is
there?
Is
this
the
best
way
of
capturing
information
and
so
I
suppose
we
probably
should
step
back
to
the
first
of
those
questions
which
is.
Do
we
actually
think
this
is
so
it
sounds
like
we
in
saying
is:
is
that
some
systems?
It's
really
not
this
detailed
anyway?
C
So
is
Kevin
from
the
paralympic
Association
and
I
mean
my
take
on
the
special
requirements
list.
Is
that
it's
great
to
have
the
option
to
where
possible,
give
that
more
level
of
more
information,
but
I
mean
not
being
an
expert
in
the
various
things
on
the
list
that
suggests
and
foremost
most
activities,
it's
very
difficult
to
ascertain
whether
you're
you
are
in
fact
friendly
to
the
various
different
types,
for
example,
people
affected
by
stroke.
There
can
be
such
a
range.
C
That
actually
is
it's
probably
quite
difficult
to
to
make
a
blanket
judgment
and
therefore
does
it
become
useful
to
people
who
have
cognitive
problems
versus
people
that
have
mobility
problems
around
stroke
for
exam.
That's
just
one
example.
So
I
don't
know
the
answer,
but
that's
just
just
one.
Take
that
I
think
is
actually
quite
difficult
to
for
people
who
are
entering
there
them
opportunity
data
to
actually
know
the
answer
to
these
questions
and
can
I
just
make
another
point
just
what
one
of
the
other
things
in
I
don't.
C
This
is
jumping
around
ever
so
slightly,
but
only
on
the
question
of
accessibility
of
the
place
versus
the
event,
and
that's
and
and
just
the
more
general
points
fantastic
to
see
the
amount
of
thinking
work
has
got
him
guns
into
the
sleeper
clipping.
The
conversations
we've
had
previously
and
perhaps
because
the
standard
Adam
wasn't
enforcing
anything
more
detailed
that
we
weren't
aware.
So
this
is
fantastic
to
see
on
there
following
the
following
slide:
that
the
disabled
go
icons
which
are
about
the
the
price
and
the
accessibility
of
the
place.
C
I
am
what
I
think
where
we
were
taking
from
the
research
that
we're
looking
into
at
the
moment
is
information
about
the
accessibility
of
the
and
what
what
is
available
to
support
and
people
taking
part
in
the
sport
or
the
event.
So
is
there
a
wheelchair,
a
racing
wheelchair
available,
because
you
can't
necessarily
do
wheelchair
racing
in
the
normal
chair
that
you'd
use?
Is
there
an
adaptive
boat
if
you're
wanting
to
do
rowing?
C
So
it's
about
the
actual
there's
things
around
the
place
which
I
think
you
noticed,
there's
good
stuff
in
there
and
when
the
disabled
go
lifts.
But
then
there's
also
an
element
of
if
I
go
along
I'm,
a
wheelchair
user,
that
I
can't
you
know
I'd
I'm
not
going
to
buy
a
really
expensive
chair
to
take
by
and
wheelchair
basketball.
So
does.
C
Basketball
opportunity
provide
chairs,
likewise
in
II,
can't
play
wheelchair
rugby
in
a
normal,
wheelchair
and
wheelchair
power
chair
as
well.
You
know
how
the
power
chair
football
would
need
about
something
the
power
chair
for
us.
So
it's
it's
I,
wonder
if
there's
a
field
or
some
vocabulary
around
equipment
to
take
part
in
the
sport,
as
well
as
the
accessibility
of
the
place
and
therefore
saying
that
the
event
is
accessible.
A
Guess
probe!
That's
and
that
question
slightly.
Do
you
think
that
people
are
filtering
for
wheelchair
basketball
where
chairs
are
provided
or
you
think
it's
more
a
case
of
then
having
reassurance
that
probably
there
are,
because,
probably
you
know,
that's
the
kind
of
target
audience
they're.
Looking
for
and
yeah.
C
My
son,
my
assumption,
would
be
that
people
don't
know
that
there
are
chairs
they
exist.
You
know
some
people
will
have
varying
degrees
of
knowledge
of
the
sport
before
they
try
to
find
it.
I
think
you
are
either.
Knowing
that
being
reassured
is,
is
certainly
I.
Don't
think
you
would
be
searching
as
one
has
equipment,
but
you
would
be
looking
for
the
opportunity
and
then
to
be
reassured
ahead
of
that,
be
thinking
about
the
question
now.
That
would
be
my
my
being
event
if
anyone
else
has
got
any
few
on
that.
H
It
sounded
like
that
what
we're
looking
for
is
to
be
able
to
search
for
things
that
support
disabilities,
such
as
wheelchair
basketball
and
having
found
it
that
you
want
to
browse
through
the
options
and
say:
oh
I
have
some
free
text
information
we
do
provide
wheelchair
sorry,
basketball,
wheelchairs
or
I.
Don't
know
what
the
exact
term
would
be
so
yeah
I
think
if
it
looks
right,
there's
a
difference
between
searching
for
things
and
the
boot
I.
Think.
H
Realistically,
we
have
to
do
broad
searching
there
because
it'll
be
a
very
small
number
of
events
which
is
specifically
for
disabled
basketball.
So
going
down
to
that
level
of
granularity
is
problem,
probably
the
helpful,
but
having
found
wristing
events
which
are
for
disabilities
at
their
basketball,
then
it
would
be
good
to
know
that
these
two
events
about
she
got
wheelchairs
available
no
suit
because
I
may
affect
your
decision
to
join
so
I.
Put
that
I
see
that
more
as
a
free
text,
description
and
additional
information
site
feel
rather
than
a
tags
type
field.
Nick.
A
We
removed
it
in
favor
of
having
a
free
text.
Another
free
text
field
called
attendee
information,
which
is
where
you,
you
could
put
equipment
information
as
pretext,
but
we
I
think
we.
We
basically
decided
to
combine
the
what
would
like
what
do
we
need
to
bring
with
me,
which
is
you
know,
bottle
water,
trainers
and
equipment,
which
is
you
know,
I
need,
I
need,
also
trainers
essentially,
and
the
overlap
there
into
just
one
free
it
field
that
people
could
just
and
that
will
in
yeah,
because
we
we.
A
Interesting,
so
that's
a
place-based
and
badges
question,
and
so
if
we
before
we
just
revisit
the
badges
question
and
I
just
thought
it
was
worth
picking
up
on
that.
The
previous
point
about
the
wheelchair
basketball
as
an
activity
type.
So
there's
a
slightly
different
angle
here
is:
is
it
worth
tagging
some
activities
as
disability
friendly
or
something
with
some
level
of
granularity?
So
if
I
have
a
hearing,
impairment,
I
can
look
at
activities
that
are
that
work.
A
For
me,
I
mean
it
doesn't
kind
of
make
sense
of
some
of
these
examples
right
because
hearing
impairment,
you
could
say
well
anything
could
work
visual
impairment,
maybe
more
so
so
I
guess.
Maybe
that's
a
to
two
questions.
Do
you
think
it's
worth
activities
being
connected
to
these
disabilities
and
actually
do
we
think
these
are
even
useful,
I.
B
It
depends
how
that
gets
kind
of
shown
up
right,
because
if
that's
a
supplier
kind
of
taking
a
box
saying
yes,
this
activity
suitable
people,
visual
impairments.
That
could
be
one
thing,
whereas
if
that's
displayed
to
a
consumer
and
that's
something
so
that
language
point
I
think
is
something
which
I
mean
wouldn't
change
necessary.
The
structure
is
just
the
wording
and
then
sorry
on
your
second
point,
I
forgot
that
was
so
I'm
gonna
start
talking
about
accessibility.
A
A
So
if
we,
if
we
still
it's,
do
things
like
that
about
language,
it's
really
good
feedback,
and
definitely
we
should
revisit
the
word
impairment
here.
But
if
we,
if
we
focus
first
of
all
on
what
do
we
need
rather
than
how
we're
displaying
it
so
do
we
think
you
know
this
is
actually
useful
against
the
event
against
the
facility
and
the
place
and
against
the
activity
itself.
H
I'm
afraid
it
was
a
bit
of
a
dead
heat
I
think
it's
important
I
think
it's
important,
because
you
know
we
are
trying
to
get
to
people
who
are
not
going
to
the
conventional
rooms
and
people
who
are
in
rehabilitation
for
example.
So
they
got
say
you
know
broken
leg
or
whatever
and
I
think
there
will
be
events
which
specific
will
help
them
possibly
put
on
deliberately
for
rehabilitation
and
whatever
they
they
may.
You
miss
drill
down
into
what
that
is,
but
also
long-term
illnesses.
So.
G
H
Know
we've
got
submitted
parks
and
Stroke
and
people
who
may
not
be
able
to
participate
in
spinning
having
tried
it
once
and
it
nearly
killed
me
and
if
I
was
actually
properly
ill,
then
I
wouldn't
go
back.
The
imagine
is
spinning
for
disabled
or
spinning
for
rehabilitation
which
took
thing
more
gentle
and
I
can
see
that
that
would
be
really
valuable
to
look
in
a
city
I've
just
broken
my
leg
at
least
an
exercise.
I
won't
be
able
to
do
anything
properly
for
six
months
and
what
could
I
do
that?
H
I
A
So
pulling
on
the
information
from
the
last
kind
of
last
year,
when
we
did
this,
there
was
a
big
question
and
with
the
FDS
guys
about
who
assesses
the
the
activity,
there
was
a
discussion
about
creating
some
kind
of
online
questionnaire
to
help
people
understand
what
these
tick
boxes
represent,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
that.
What
actually
ended
up
happening
was
the
implementers
who
have
currently
been
doing.
A
This
have
literally
just
put
some
tick
boxes
in
to
their
systems,
which
have
a
tick
against
each
and
the
provider
when
they're
filling
in
the
activity,
information
sees
the
list,
and
so
there's
currently
not
even
any
guidance
associated
with
those
I
know.
There
was
the
kind
of
ambition
to
do
that
before,
but
I
don't
think
we
kind
of
had
clear
owners
on
the
on
the
actions
so.
I
Has
there
been
consultation
with
same
with
people
about
things
about
the
terminology
and
people,
obviously
with
longer
term
health
conditions,
as
well
Michelle,
with
the
point
that
you
were
making
because
I'm
just
I
think
my
feeling,
but
again
it's
an
assumption.
Is
that
the
free-text
aspect
of
it?
It's
probably
going
to
be
really
helpful.
I
A
A
I
couldn't
reference
any
direct
studies
but,
for
example,
with
with
the
FDS
stuff
I
understand
that
that
conversation
was
grounded
in
some
understanding
of
what
uses
one.
But
it's
a
really
good
question:
I,
don't
know
if
anyone's
commissioned
any
studies
or
if
we
think
that
would
be
a
useful
thing.
How
are
we
I
mean
I,
suppose
there's
something
else
is
this
it's
obviously
this
is
a.
This
is
a
forum
for
standards
across
the
sector,
but
I
I
would
I.
Would
wonder
whether
has
this
been
done
before?
A
C
There's
there's
lots
of
different
different
schools
of
thought
amiss
obviously,
and
that
we
we
would
tend
to
be
guided
by
organizations
like
if
the
s
who
have
done
lots
of
research
and
habits
contact
with
various,
so
communities
and
groups
and
focus
groups,
or
things
like
that.
So
and
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
that
with
the
language,
but
oh
yeah
I
was
strongly
support,
this
being
a
useful
lift
and
from
our
point
of
view
from
what
we
know.
A
A
Like
maybe
I
was
reading
between
the
lines.
Now,
what
you
sounded
like
you're
saying
was:
you've
already
got
a
list.
That's
quite
specific.
This
looks
like
a
better
list,
so
you
might
think
about
using
this
for
your
website.
When
you
do
the
project
that
you're
about
to
do
and
then
that's
what
would
you
be
testing
that,
or
would
you
be
using
a
different
list
or
using
illness
yeah.
C
We
don't
know
yet
the
the
to
the
things
that
we
know
are
that
from
the
Paralympic
context.
You
know,
we
need
to
certainly
think
okay
from
the
Paralympic
context,
because
we
are
the
parent
associations
so
that
that
makes
sense
to
audience
in
one
respect
that
we
know
from
talking
to
the
FDS
and
others
over
the
years
that
the
prolific
contest
context
isn't
actually
that
useful
for
most
people
in
a
grassroots
level.
C
So
this
is
from
our
from
the
audience
point
of
view,
a
more
useful
list
and
so
I
think
we
we're
in
the
throes
of
working
out
how
how
we
approach
that
now,
but
we
are
approaching
it
with
this
open,
active
project
in
mind
and
publishing
our
data
and
and
and
then
using
that
the
published
data
to
so
there.
This
certainly
very
central
to
kind
of
what
we're
doing
at
the
moment
and
and
I
think
it
being
part
the
product
is,
is
useful,
really.
A
G
G
Okay,
we
do
have
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
create
focus
groups
or
groups
where
we
can
does
ask
people
with
a
range
of
different
disabilities.
What
their
thoughts
and
opinions
are
on
these
kinds
of,
like
this
sort
of
wording
or
or
whatever
else
and
I,
do
strongly
think
that
you
do
need
to
be
involved
in
disabled
people
and
like
kind
of
from
the
very
beginning,
with
this
kind
of
stuff,
so
that
you
know
that
it's
practically
gonna
work
and
it
is
being
designed
with
them
in
mind
and
with
them
going
along
for
the
ride.
G
I
I
A
Think
that
sounds
that
sounds
absolutely
brilliant.
More
easy
testing
on
this
stuff,
I
think
Pallavi
and
the
reservations
about
the
proposal
we
put
it
through
into
the
spec,
as
is,
is
that
is
there
was
a
kind
of
that
lack
of
well
I.
Think
one
of
the
notes
actually
in
that
proposal
is.
This
is
just
means
from
the
data
we
have.
We
have
done
this,
but.
A
A
D
B
D
A
A
Yeah,
well,
that's
not
just
fine
I
understand,
I
suppose
is
my
simple
view.
The
missional
group
is
going
to
be
more
interesting
special
requirements
because
at
the
breath,
the
charities-
but
is
it
actually
the
case
that
then
actually
the
disability,
an
impairment
size
rather
than
kind
of
things,
I
exposed,
nought,
ISM
is
is
kind
of
more
or
is
this
all
one
conversation
or
actually
I,
just
different
levels
of
granularity?
On
the
same
thing,
sorry,
I'm
being
right,
yeah.
D
I
think
so
I
think
it's
just
because
there'll
be
people,
it
could
be.
That
I
mean
someone
reference.
You
know
someone
could
have
a
stroke,
I
have
a
stroke
and
have
you
know
a
physical
impairment
and
a
cognitive
impairment
as
a
result
of
that,
and
then
have
loneliness
issues
and
mental
health.
You
know
it
sort
of,
then
there
could
be
a
hell
of
a
lot
wrapped
up.
So
it's
just
trying
to
think
about.
D
What's
a
really
simple
way
of
kind
of
helping
people
to
find
something,
that's
right
for
them,
and
it
might
be
that
it's
suggesting
it's
very
specific
stroke
group
with
a
person.
Who's
is
clearly
qualified
in
straight
rehab.
So
there's
that
kind
of
work,
force,
element
of
a
safe
and
the
equipment
will
kind
of
ramp
up
yeah.
I
That's
a
really
good
point
in
terms
of
who's,
delivering
it
I
think
as
well.
The
special
requirements
list.
It's
yeah,
it's
a
bit
tricky
because
some
of
its
sort
of
quite
specific
conditions-
and
then
some
of
it
may
be
activities
that
you
would
like
based
on
something-
or
you
know,
say
the
chair
based
or
that
you've
had
a
GP
referral.
A
I
A
Then
it's
for
various
conditions,
where
you
would
have
a
particular
condition
you
you
would
be
searching
for
something
for
that
would
support
that
and
I
mean
at
something
like
autism,
for
examples
is
a
bit
of
an
interesting
one,
because
I
feel
like
you
would
obviously
would
need
special
care
available
for
the
session
on
the
extent
and
their
kids
that
they
adults,
but
but
I,
don't
know
if
we
just
we
just
bundled
that
into
some
one
of
the
high
level
ones
here.
If
that
would
be
a
useful
filter
and
well.
A
G
But
I
think
it
is
just
important
to
know
whether
or
not
the
people
running
the
sessions
are
kind
of
aware
of
autism
and
know
like
kind
of
the
basics
around
it,
and
it
is
friendly
and
welcoming
towards
people
with
rather
than
them
needing
to
know
like
specifics.
It
is
more
kind
of
like
their
attitudes
and
stuff
towards
it.
I
think
it's
quite
important
with
some
of
this
stuff
and
so.
H
I
C
There's
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
scope
for
that,
just
to
be
a
completely
unresting
I,
don't
know
it
is.
It
seems
it
was
a
difficult
one
to
rely
on
there.
The
data
for
to
sort
of
someone
so
just
to
declare
themselves
awesome
for
any
other
I
guess,
there's
kind
of
there's
the
the
next
level
down
time
and
verify
this
stuff
is
quite
difficult.
First
is
actually
so
physically
having
some
you
know,
parking
changing
ring
the
locker
space.
That
kind
of
thing
there's
kind
of
a
thing
that
they
can.
They
definitely
say
so.
B
It's
really
interesting,
it's
kind
of
where
the
standards
kind
of
ghost
where'd
at
the
standards
and
at
what
point
you
start
moving
into
that
kind
of
customer
experience,
which
is
key
I
mean
especially
for
people
who
have
potentially,
like
you
know,
particular
needs,
but
I
mean
it
definitely
runs
across
more
or
less
everything
we
do
in
support.
England
that
you
know
if
you're
just
sticking
it
kind
of
like
this
girl
can
type
woman's
campaign
that
we're
running
like
even
that
a
lot
of
the
time
comes
down
to
the
experience
that
people
are
getting.
H
The
thing
I
was
going
to
say
that
it's
easy
we've
got
two
different
levels
here:
you've
got
events
which
are
specifically
intended
for
people
with
autism
or
who
paraplegic,
in
which
case
is
this.
In
fact,
those
people
and
Morris
only
those
people
so
perhaps
more
towards
the
most
severe
cases
and
you've
got
events
which
are
friendly
towards
autism,
so
an
office
in
a
specific
event,
I've
expect
to
have
practitioners
there
who
were
trained
in
autism
and
autism,
a
friendly
event.
H
F
F
Just
thinking
this
thing
to
everybody,
you
know
it
expects
a
living
proposal,
I
wonder
whether
it's
worth
doing
the
first
part
of
the
accessibility
parts,
first,
allowing
the
accessibility
information
to
capture
some
of
the
various
points
have
been
raised
here,
like
the
culture
versus
there
are
actual
implementations
and
then
letting
the
data
that
you
know
the
events
as
they
come
throughout.
You
feed
into
revisions
of
the
spec,
as
as
you
as
you
move
it
on.
A
A
If
you
know
we
just
put
these
in
and
tick
boxes
in
free
and
free
text
fields,
it's
likely
that
we'll
get
well
we'll
get
a
mixture,
but
I.
Imagine
that
for
the
bigger
providers
they
will
be
probably
wrestling
to
tick
things
unless
they're
very
sure,
because
the
implications
and
for
the
small
one
we
might
just
take
all
of
them,
because
they've
been
well
I'll
just
deal
with
it.
When
it
comes
wait.
F
Isn't
that
the
feedback
that
we
that
we
kind
of
want
in
a
way
is
that
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
capture?
Obviously
we
would
strung
captured
you
can
but
you're
not
going
to
capture
everything
down
to
the
nth
degree.
So
you
know
looking
at
accessibility
support,
say
under
under
visual
impairments.
They
make
their.
You
can
think
of
them,
various
sub
classifications.
F
Under
there
we
wouldn't
catch
all
that,
but
is
it
kind
of
a
first
step
of
getting
getting
some
information
in
there
and
being
able
to
populate
events
with
some
data
and
then
allowing
you
know
further
iterations
to
refine
that
to
refine
the
other
parts
looking?
What
actually
is
in
there?
What's
going
into
the
accessibility
information
field,
I'm,
just
trying
tease
out,
tease
out
the
various
sort
of
throw
this
photo
specifications
from
there?
Yes,.
F
A
Clear
earlier-
and
it
also
has
this
accessibility,
information
and
the
British
Cycling
text
is
actually
live.
That's
British,
cycling's,
that's
the
data
currently
being
published,
so
this
is
being
used
in
production
in
real
life
and
capturing
a
variety
of
things.
This
spreadsheet
actually
shows
which
of
the
live
based.
A
Publishers
are
producing
what
information
and
we've
got
so
I
can
give
you
the
summary
of
the
data
that
exists
at
the
moment,
and
the
summary
is
that
something
some
people
like
I
was
just
saying
some
people
take
everything
and
the
event
is
nothing
to
do
with
anything
that
would
necessarily
be
specifically
supporting
people.
So
it's
just
it's
just
a
general
yoga
session
or
something-
and
they
just
takes
everything.
A
Some
people
don't
like
with
the
bigger
providers,
seem
to
not
want
to
be
as
keen
to
tick,
because
obviously
they
need
to
know
what
that
means
and
those
systems
tend
not
to
catch
that
information
yet
anyway.
So
generally,
the
data
that's
available
is
from
small
providers
and
that's
it's
kind
of
what
we
have
but
but
I
think.
Actually,
what
you're
saying
really
is
we
should
be
testing.
A
F
So
because
what
you
as
you've
just
shown
already
you've
got
two
disparate
sets
of
suppliers
using
the
same
things
in
two
different
ways.
You
know,
so
one
is
just
ticking
everything
and
that
worries
me
a
bit.
They
don't
care
that
they're
taking
everything
if
they
are
and
then
so
they're
offering
an
event
where
somebody
might
turn
up
and
they
can't
participate.
In
that
event,
even
though
the
event
says
it
does
so
that
makes
to
me
that
makes
that
data
a
bit
untrustworthy.
F
B
What
is
it
about
this?
That
I'm,
genetic
visual
impairment?
You
know
what
means
that
that's
suitable
or
not,
and
maybe
that
something
which
we
could
try
and
kind
of
develop
or
test
with,
in
conjunction
with
those
kind
of
disabled
groups,
people
at
Kirsten
as
Cecilia
and
others
were
kind
of
talking
about
earlier
on.
We.
F
Just
thank
you,
sorry
to
just
take
it
on
some
of
the
examples
or
the
experiences
that
we've
had
when
we
started
looking
at
sort
of
accessibility
onto
the
towpath,
and
we
looked
at
him
along
particularly,
but
then
we
actually
are
people
using
wheelchairs
down
there
and
they
were
highlighting
things
like
in
just
the
camera
of
the
towpath
was
an
important
factor
for
them.
You
know
between
you
know
to
enjoy
going
out.
You
know
they're
having
some
exercise
on
sort
so,
but
actually
capturing
the
fact.
F
A
Yeah,
absolutely
so,
to
kind
of
summarize
what
I
think
I've
heard
here,
it
sounds
like
there's
a
tube
there's,
various
stages,
little
matrix,
there's
the
user
facing
side,
and
then
this
provides
a
provider
facing
side,
so
the
user
facing
side
that
concerns
are
you
know,
is
this
something
that
we
tested?
The
users
actually
want.
This
information
is
this
something
that
works
for
them?
If
there's
an
activity
finder
and
these
things
things
are
in
there
with
it
batch
to
be
a
useful
search
for
the
provider
patient
side,
it's
people
just
taking
everything.
A
Is
that
because
there's
not
enough
guidance,
are
these
things
obvious
or
nothing
what
they
mean,
that
people
be
able
to
reliably
supply
the
information
because
of
what
we've
given
them
and
then
so
there's
both
of
those
sides
and
potential
user
testing
on
both
of
those
sides
and
then
there's
also
within
each
of
those
there's.
Obviously,
this
level
of
specificity,
which
is
you
know,
there's
there's
obviously
some
really
interesting
content
in
the
depths
of
this.
Actually
on
the
user
facing
side,
is
it
useful
if
we
could
capture
it?
A
Probably
at
the
moment,
it's
not
very
accurately
captured
on
the
broader
facing
side.
Is
it
feasible
to
capture
it
the
actually?
This
is
a
detailed
and
unless
you've
got
a
particular
session,
as
we
that's
focused
on
autism,
whether
it
be
friendly
or
whether
it
be
a
specialist
session.
You
know
is
that
information,
something
that
people
are
going
to
be
interested
in
providing
and
comfortable
in
providing,
and
so
does
that
sound
like
a
kind
of
fair
summary
of
where
we
are.
A
Well,
that's
been
really
useful,
and
time
has
flown
by
we've
got
four
whole
minutes
left.
So
so
thank
you,
everybody
that
was
that
was
fascinating
and
it
sounds
like
we've
got
from
that
and
obviously
would
write
this
up
and
but
also
and
the
video
will
be
online
for
the
people
to
watch
and
and
and
reflect
on
and
feedback
on.
So
what
would
be
interesting,
I
proposed
as
a
next
step,
but
see
what
you
guys
think
is
sounds
like
there's
to
set
some
unit.
Testing
needs
to
happen
here
and
really
before
we
do
that.
A
There's
not
much
else
before,
because
we've
already
got
a
spec.
It's
already
got
some
dates.
They're.
The
next
proposals
provide
further
detail
on
that
date
set.
We
haven't
really
validated
whether
the
current
set
of
detail
is
what
we
need,
and
so
probably
the
next
step
is,
is
that
user
testing
and
so
potentially
then
we're
happy
to
proceed
with
that.
A
It
would
be
a
kind
of
call
for
volunteers
to
be
involved
in
that
to
help
move
that
forward
and
then
either
another
call
like
this
in
there
and
the
public
forum
or
or
if
it
would
be
better
to
have
that
as
an
offline
conversation
with
just
those
interested
in
creating
that
we
can.
We
can
facilitate
separate
discussion
and
so
from
that.
If
that
sounds
right
is
that
something
that
we
would
be
able
to
pick
up
on?
B
Maybe
I
don't
know
and
I've
not
done
that
kind
of
user
testing
before,
but
I
can
kind
of
talk
to
you,
some
the
practicalities
of
what
that
might
look
like
and
then
I
can
kind
of
read
that
central
point
of
contact
between
you
guys
at
the
NAI
and
kind
of
does
Sport
England
side
and
hopefully
help
kind
of
move
that
forward
as
well.
That's
useful.
I
D
A
A
Okay,
fantastic
great
well,
the
next
call
coming
up
is
around
booking,
so
for
those
of
you
that
are
interested
in
that.
That
will
be
on
the
26th
of
October,
which
is
on
Friday,
and
so
let
us
know
if
you're,
if
you're
keen
to
join
that
and
then
after
that,
we've
got
another
one
on
the
7th
of
November
because
we're
trying
to
get
that
sorted
so
that
we
haven't
got
another
call
on
this
topic
scheduled
in
yet.
A
But
if
you
guys
are
interested
in
in
kind
of
another
one
earlier
before
that
other
user
feedback,
what
happens
then
do
shower
mailing
lists?
We
can
organize
another
one
if
anyone's
got
any
burning
and
topics
to
cover.
Otherwise
we'll
wait
for
Izzy
to
bring
back
this
tough
topic
and
we'll
or
something
in,
and
so
thanks
so
much
for
your
time.
Everyone.