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Okay,
any
updates
on
the
budget.
Fred
john,
I
know
you
were
going
to
work
on
the
possible
tax
rate
or,
if
any,
and
have.
D
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E
For
some
of
the
previous
requests
or
discussions,
what
we
did
was
we
tried
to
incorporate
again
just
as
a
draft
for
discussion
with
the
council,
the
idea
of
moving
to
a
two-family
owner-occupied
rate
separate
from
the
residential.
E
So
you
will
see
that
there
is
a
separate
rate
now
for
that
which
is
the
2973,
as
indicated
on
this
particular
schedule,
and
you
can
see
that
that
does
represent
an
increase
to
that
rate.
For
that
particular
group,
we
did
look
at
some
of
the
other
codes
to
see
if
we
possibly
could
either
maintain
or
lower
some
of
the
other
rates
and
basically
based
on
the
assessments
that
we
did
have
recently
received
from
the
revaluation
company.
E
E
On
the
other
codes,
as
indicated
on
this
schedule,
I
did
look
at
some
numbers
to
see
what
the
average
would
be,
or
average
increase
potentially
could
be
or
reduction
in
the
case
of
the
residential
and
the
one
percent
reduction
to
the
residential
could
result
in
probably
about
forty
to
fifty
dollars
a
year
by
a
one
percent
reduction
which
is
not
significant,
but
it's
not
an
increase
and
on
the
two
family,
that's
an
approximate
four
to
five
hundred
dollar
increase
to
the
owner
occupied
two
family
houses.
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Basically,
right
now
I
saw
the
email
that
was
sent.
I
didn't
want
to
respond
the
we're
talking
500
in
some
odd
single
owner-occupied
two-family
homes
that
would
possibly
see
a
14
and
a
half
percent
tax
increase,
and
if
we
left
the
single
family
rate
where
it
was,
what
effect
would
that
have
on
us.
E
Well,
I
do
the
the
schedule
that
I
did
hand
out
does
have
the
ability
to
run
scenarios
run
different
scenarios,
so
I
actually
brought
the
computer
for
just
that
reason.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
different
combinations
of
rates
and
so
forth
that
we
could
actually
do,
but
we
were
trying
to
just
have
something
that
would
you
know
potentially
be
for
discussion.
E
One
of
the
things
that
we've
previously
mentioned
was
maybe
splitting
that
rate
in
between
the
multi-unit
and
the
single,
but
if
you
were
to
do
that,
it
would
have
been
a
significantly
higher
increase
than
the
14
percent.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
other
scenarios
that
we
could
potentially
run
so.
D
John,
let
me
just
turn
this
on.
So
did
you
just
like
back
into
these
figures?
Is
that
how
you
did
it
basically.
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D
Of
it
is,
is
commercial
basically
all
right
to
make.
You
know
you
could
argue
that
they
don't
make
any
money,
but
the
idea
is,
it
helps
defray
the
cost
of
the
property.
Have
you
tried,
like
you
know,
and
that
would
be
fairly
significant
and
I
don't
think
it
would
be
fair.
D
All
in
one
shot
might
have
to
be,
it
might
be
fair,
but
it
would
have
to
be,
I
think,
instituted
over
a
period
of
time,
but-
and
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
do
it
yet,
but
then
I'm
I'm
starting
to
play
with
and
I've
got
the
the
database
where
you
can.
You
know
plug
in
the
different
numbers
and
the
what
ifs
right
and
maybe
like
start
to
back
off
like
instead
of
50
50,
it's
40
60.
right.
You
know
35
55,
that
type
of
thing
to
arrive
at
something.
D
You
know
that
would
be
fair
for
the
the
multi-family
owner
right
now
I
mean
the
reason
why
we're
discussing
this
is
because
when
you
really
when
you
consider
it,
it's
really
not
fair.
The
single
families
are
subsidizing.
People
that
have
rental.
A
Income
but
councilman
based
off
just
my
assessments-
I
don't
know
what
everybody
else's
assessment
in
here,
okay,
but
I
can
tell
you
that,
based
off
these
tax
rates,
I'm
going
to
see
almost
a
700
increase
on
my
single
family
home,
which,
by
the
way,
would
be
no
tax
increase
this
year.
But
I'm
going
to
see
a
700
a
year
increase
there,
I'm
going
to
pay
6
900.
How.
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Do
you
agree
with
that?
The
premise:
do
you
agree
with
the
premise?
Let's
start
right
at
the
baseline,
do
you
agree
with
the
premise
right
that
the
single
families
are
really
subsidizing
owner
occupied
two
family,
which
they
typically
the
the
second
unit?
I
rent
it
out.
D
A
Don't
agree
with
the
premise
with
with
you
saying:
single
family
is
subsidizing.
If
you
look
at
your
neighboring
towns
like
coventry
and
west
warwick,
they
don't
have
this
tiered
tax
system.
So
I'm
going
to
say
that
three
family,
four
family,
six,
family
and
and
businesses
are
also
compensating
the
single
family.
D
And
that's
good
segue
into
what
I'm
going
to
propose
in
the
future
it's
too
late
now,
but
we
need
another
tax
commission.
We
need
another
another
group
of
people
that
can
study
this
rate,
because
I've
been
looking
at
the
rates
all
around
the
state.
These
rates
are
terrible.
We've
got
to
do
something
to
correct
these
rates.
It's
too
late
now,
but
right
now
we
can
begin
to
do
something
and
what
you
this
is.
This
is
where
you
started
john
yeah.
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That,
instead
of
14.52,
you
know
that's
crazy,
although
this
council
didn't
have
any
problem
increasing,
you
know
six
family
to
25
one
year,
but
the
fact
is
for
for
a
residential
like
this
50
14
percent
is
crazy,
but
I
think
we
need
to
go,
and
I
think
it
was
david
kennahan
that
said
that
we
have
to
phase
this
in
right
right
and
I
agree
we
have
to
phase
it
in,
but
I
don't
want
to
spin
my
wheels
or
waste
my
time
if
the
majority
of
the
council
doesn't
want
to
do
anything.
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B
E
To
go
to
the
full
rate
of
the
six
family
or
the
other
six,
six
or
more
units
or
three
or
more
units,
I'm
sorry,
three.
E
E
D
He
might
be
in,
he
might
be
in
the
middle,
and
I
and
I
think
doing
it
on
here
with
I
wish
I
could
put
it
on
the
screen
over
here.
If
you
guys,
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
now
is
is
back
down
from
50
50
to
maybe
you
know,
try,
let's
try
45,
you
know
40
60,
that
type
of
thing
and
see
at
least
it
you
know,
show
a
distinction.
D
F
Is
john,
I
I
don't
see
it
here.
What
is
the
rates
for
the
property
owners
that
don't
live
in
town?
The
fam.
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D
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A
I
just
want
even
going
back
to
that,
phase-in
that
john
brought
up
and
again
because
I
am
an
owner
of
a
two-family
property.
I'm
not
I'm
just
throwing
this
out,
because
I
know
the
numbers
of
that
property.
I
don't
know
the
numbers
of
every
two
family
in
westworld,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
the
2pm
I
have
isn't
appraised
at
a
high
amount.
A
I
think
it's
appraised
at
140
or
142.,
and
if
you
phase
that
in
right
now
my
taxes
and
I'm
just
throwing
this
out
there
at
3
600
and
changed
it,
and
if
you
phase
it
all
in
after
three
years
or
four
years.
However
many
times
you
want
to
phase
it,
it
goes
up
to
fifty
two
hundred
dollars
for
an
owner,
occupier.
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F
Well,
I
mean
the
three
family
I
owned.
My
income
was
3
300
a
month
and
my
taxes
were
4
800
a
year
that
was
before
I
sold
it,
and
then
I
took
the
property
back.
So
you
figured
your
rents,
your
your
your
taxes,
your
insurance
one
and
a
half
went
to
the
for
the
expenses,
the
other
one
and
a
half.
I
made
a
business
out
of
it,
so
I
mean.
A
D
So
so
say
so:
every
does
everybody
agree.
Then
there's
gotta
be
some
type
of
split
at
least
initially
not
the
whole
amount,
50
50.,
but
so
what's
in
your
mind,
what's
fair
I
mean
if
we
split
it
right
now.
Initially,
if
we
said
then
say,
70
of
the
value
assessed
value
of
that
property
will
get
the
lower
rate,
but
30
percent
will
get
the
commercial
rate
like
every
other
two
family
non-occupied.
D
F
Know
abby
craig.
I
agree
so
what
percentage.
A
F
D
Yeah,
okay,
so
now
what
percentage
we're
not
going
to
do?
50
50,
because
50
50
is
outrageous,
all
right,
a
person
that,
let's
see
here
whose
old
tax
was
say,
3
900,
would
go
up
to
about
861
dollars
and
I've
got
everybody
here,
all
the
all
the
580
530
people
that
are
living
in
two
families
they
own
it
and
they
live
in
it.
It's
530
units,
according
to
the
latest
tax
roll,
all
right
so
they're
all
in
here,
and
I
plug
the
formula
in
so
it's
split
right
down
the
middle.
D
I
would
take
50
percent
of
the
assessed
value
and
tax
it
out
that
single
family
50
percent,
not
the
two
families.
Okay,
all
right!
So
maybe
that's
not
that's
not
right!
Maybe
we
should
bump
it
up
to
70
30
to
begin
with,
but
again
what
would
be
fair
if
a
person's
tax
rate
is
now
4
000
on
a
two
family
owner
occupied
if
it
went
up
200?
Is
that
that's
something
manageable?
E
Did
or
not
at
all,
I
did
take
a
look
at
the
numbers
like
you
suggested
and
adjust
the
rate
for
my
error
on
the
other
rate,
and
if
we
were
to
increase
the
or
create
a
new
rate
for
the
owner,
occupy
2
family
and
increase
it
approximately
two
dollars
per
thousand.
That
would
be
an
increase
to
the
average
home
of
about
a
little
less
than
300
per
year,
and
that
would
be
one-third
of
the
way
to
the
point
of
the
higher
rate
of
the
31-54.
E
The
system
has
limitations
on
the
number
of
rates
you
can
have,
because
we
are
one
of
the
few
communities
that
have
this
many
rates.
Typically,
there's
only
you
know
maybe
two
or
three,
if
that,
so
we
actually
have
to
shift
some
or
one
of
the
other
codes
into
a
different
category.
In
order
to
create
this
other
layer
for
the
owner
occupied
two
family.
How
I.
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So
yeah
I
mean
I
don't
know
where.
Where
he's
talking
about
so
I
mean
I
don't
see
how
my
home
went
up:
40
000
dollars
when
the
neighbors
across
me
bout
just
sold
their
house
for
190
000.,
the
falco
sold
their
house
for
220..
So
where
do
you
figure?
Your
house
is
worth
in
380
360
in
that
in
that
vicinity.
A
Because
you're
introducing
you're
introducing
you
want
to
get
the
calls
well
here
on
this
on
this
piece
of
paper,
I
received
tonight
you're
you're,
introducing
a
26
cent
decrease
in
your
single
family
home,
but
after
your
most
houses
are
probably
going
up
from
what
I've
seen
and
big
time
so
you're.
Seeing
a
700
like
I'm
personally
going
to
see
a
700
tax
increase.
A
No,
I
had
to
fight
you
know
I
had
to
bring
had
to
appeal
it
and
show
to
get
17
000
off
an
evaluation.
I
had
to
compare
it
to
30
other
houses
in
the
town
of
westworld.
E
E
So
it
is
a
situation
where,
if
you
can,
you
know
give
me
some
scenarios
you'd
like
to
see
I
can,
I
can
run
them,
provide
them
to
the
council,
and
then
we
do
need
to
have
another
council
meeting
prior
to
the
first
week
of
may,
which
we
have
a
public
hearing
schedule
for
wastewater
anyways.
We
do
have
to
have
another
meeting
and
allow
an
opportunity
for
the
council
to
say.
E
Yes,
this
is
the
budget
document
that
we
want
for
the
financial
town
meeting
and
for
the
vote,
which
we
are
going
to
suggest
that
we
do
on
the
26th
of
april.
That
is
when
we'd
have
to
have
the
decision
on
what
this
will
be,
so
there
is
still
some
time
to
to
run
scenarios
and
and
give
some
other
schedules
that
you
may
be
able
to
look
at.
E
I
mean
at
this
point
we
presented
this
or
I
presented
this
tonight
just
for
discussion
only
because
of
the
based
on
some
of
the
conversations
I
do
apologize.
I
had
that
incorrect.
You
know
escalator.
F
F
Than
so
you're
looking
at
20
tax
increase,
maybe
18
whatever
that
is,
but
what
the
people
aren't
understanding.
They
think
we're
out
of
that
mess.
With
that
five-year
plan
the
next
five
years,
it's
another
20
tax
increase
so
now,
you're
looking
at
a
40
tax,
increase,
we're
working
our
way
right
up
the
first
place
in
the
tax
rates.
Well,.
D
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C
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D
D
Press
you
press
hard
for
the
people
to
vote
for
the
budget
and
then
on
the
other
side
of
your
mouth.
You
said:
oh,
it's!
No
good!
Only
a
few
people
vote
for
it.
Well
then,
while
you
have
it,
let
the
people
that
were
elected
decide
that
you
know
which
I'm
not
saying
I'm
in
favor
of,
but
it's
something
to
talk
about
all
right.
So
I'd
like
to
give
you
some
different
scenarios
over
here
sure-
and
maybe
even
you
look
at
this-
I
understand
only
because
of
the
limitations
of
a
computer
program.
D
You
can't
do
this
and
I'll
weigh
it.
So
you
know
40
is
for
single
family
rate
60.
You
could
put
it
on
a
spreadsheet
and
look
at
it
and
then
maybe
get
a
blended
amount
for
a
percentage
and
get
close
to
it
all
right.
So
this
one
and
I'll
gladly
give
you
this.
This
is
the
latest
rule
that
I've
gotten
from
christine
and
you
know
you're
using
access
here
and
I
give
it
to
anybody.
Actually
anybody
that
wants
it
can
have
it
and
I'll
show.
D
You
know
how
to
simply
in
like
10
seconds
how
to
change
the
the
you
know
the
percentages
and
we
can
take
a
look
at
it.
I
agree
with
with
david
I
mean,
as
it
is
right
now.
There's
there's
no
way.
That's
that's
not
fair,
giving
them
a
big
whack
yeah.
No,
we
can't
do
that.
I
think
we
have
to
bump
it
up
a
little
bit
to
be
start
to
go
in
the
right
direction,
so
it's
equitable
for
the
the
single
family
households
which
there
are
that.
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E
Yeah
in
terms
in
terms
of
the
scenarios,
though,
if
you
could
please
just
let
me
know
what
scenarios
you
know
you
want
me
to,
you
know:
do
you
want
to
run
or
if
it's
something
that
you
want
to,
you
know
sit
down
with
with
a
couple
of
council
members
want
to
sit
down
with
christine,
and
I
we
can.
You
know,
discuss.
B
Something,
I
guess
the
big
question,
and
I
guess
this
kind
of
goes
back
to
ed
is
philosophically:
do
you
believe
it
should
be
50
50
right
in
the
middle
of
single
and
right
in
the
middle
of
two-family
non-owned
are
occupied?
If
that's
what
you
believe,
then
the
only
question
is
a
phase-in
process.
If
you
think
that
it
shouldn't
be
50-50,
if
you
think
that
it
should
be
60-40
for
whatever
logical
reason,
then
you
can
still
talk
about
a
phase-in
process.
B
D
If
you're
asking
me,
I
think
minimally,
I
I
think
the
people
that
are
living
in
a
two
family.
There
are
good
reasons
to
give
them
a
little
bit
extra
because
they're
living
there
and
theoretically
they
take
better
care
of
their
property
they're
living
here
in
west
wallace
participating
in
the
community.
D
B
So
it
makes
sense
so
the
difference
there
is
six
dollars
effectively
from
25
to
31,
and
every
every
dollar
represents
approximately
150
on
the
median
house.
So
every
dollar
you
want
to
raise
is
approximately
150
dollars
that
the
median
person
is
going
to
see
their
tax
bill
go
up.
So
if
you
think
that
300
is
way
too
much,
then
maybe
go
down
to
one
dollar
up
and
that
would
be
150
additional.
So
that's
kind
of
the.
B
D
B
D
D
To
the
single
family
yeah,
because
they
are
definitely
helping
to
subsidize
the
two-family
owner
occupier,
we.
B
D
The
spread
between
the
owner
occupied
proposed
rates,
the
spread
between
the
owner
occupied
and
the
single
family
is
almost
twelve
dollars.
You
said
six
before
it's
almost
twelve
dollars
because.
B
C
D
Yeah,
I'm
not
I'm
not
saying
I'm
not
saying
the
rate.
I
don't
know
if
the
rate
would
be
in
the
middle.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
the
you
should
apply
each
rate
weigh
it
with
the
assessed
value
of
the
property.
If
it's
worth
200,
000
and
you're
going
to
assess
a
50
50,
then
100
000
would
be
assessed
at
the
lower
rate.
100
000
would
be
assessed
at
the
higher
rate.
D
I
mean
you
know
yeah,
then
you
are
then
you're
you're
fairly
taxing
it.
I
think
give
me
some
argument
where
that's
not
the
case.
I
think
I
can
agree
with
that
yeah,
but
at
that,
though,
david
it's
high,
it's
too
high.
It's
still
too
high.
It's
going
to
be
a
phase
in.
A
D
D
E
E
Are
there
are
some
options?
You
know
some
of
the
other
rates
right
now,
as
as
it's.
E
Keeping
some
of
the
other
rates
the
same
there
is
an
opportunity
to-
maybe
you
know,
fluctuate
some
of
those
other
rates
by
a
few
cents
here
and
there
that
could
potentially
lead
to
more
savings.
If
there's
a
target
number
that
you're
looking
to
achieve
on
the
residential
or
the
primary,
because
we
have
all
these
different,
you
know
different
rates,
so
there
are
different
factors
involved
with
it:
yeah,
okay,
I'm
not
trying
to
overcomplicate
it,
but
I'm
also
trying
to
reach
the
target
that
you
know
and.
D
H
D
E
E
A
All
right,
obviously,
some
further
discussion
on
that
matter.
D
I
just
want
to
say
one
other
thing,
though
I
really
think
after
this,
after
we
do
the
budget,
I
really
think
we
should
consider
again.
We
haven't
done
it
in
a
long
time,
all
right,
some
type
of
tax
rate
tax
commission
we've
done
it
before
many
years
ago
to
get
together
and
really
study
this
thing,
what
our
the
other
communities
are
doing,
the
different
rates
that
they're
doing
whether
what
we're
doing
is
equitable
or
not.
D
I
know
it
can't
be
exactly
the
same
as
all
the
other,
the
other
communities,
because
their
base
is
different,
but
you
know
you
know.
First
of
all,
we've
got
too
many
tax
rates.
I
agree.
Anybody,
that's
in
the
business
will
tell
you
that
right
and
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
it
again.
Unbiased
nonpartisan
come
in
and
look
at
it
and
see
if
it
needs
adjusting
rather
than
you
know
in
an
hour
or
two
you
know
decide
if
it
needs
adjusting
all
right.
D
D
Senior
center
exemptions.
We
talked
about
exemptions
before
in
that
senior
center
senior
exemptions
when
you
want
to
turn
65
full
disclosure,
I'm
turning
65
this
month,
but
you
know
looking
at
other
communities
what
we
give
the
seniors.
D
D
You
know
I
just
pull
out
a
few.
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
today
to
do,
but
I
pull
out
a
few
coventry,
for
instance,
offers
9
000.
I
think
their
tax
rate
is
what
it
was
and
they
have
a
freeze.
D
D
Depending
on
what
the
5800,
maybe
I
don't
know-
that's
that
number
yeah,
depending
on
what
type
of
household
658?
Okay,
okay,
so
that's
what
we're
offering
off
the
assessed
value?
All
right
coventry
offers
nine
thousand
and
they
have
the
freeze
north
providence
offers.
Ten
thousand
wallet
offers
not
quite
sure
I've
got
two
answers
on
the
phone
today
from
them.
I
think
it's
either
10
or
12
000
and
then
one
said
was
415
flat
rate,
but
that
doesn't
match
up
with
what
they
have
on
their
on
their
internet.
D
I
think
it's
about
twelve
thousand,
let's
see
here.
Cranston
does
536
dollars
right
we're
doing
170..
They
actually
take
three
thousand
nine
hundred
dollars
off
of
their
their
asses
value.
So
just
surrounding
us
terrible
terrible
shape,
we're
not
helping
out
the
seniors,
I'm
not
proposing
a
freeze,
I'm
not
proposing.
D
I
am
proposing
an
increase
in
the
170
flat
rate.
I
like
to
double
it,
but
I
can't
say
that
would
be
irresponsible
to
say
that
unless
I
have
some
numbers
in
me
to
see
how
it
affects
everything
else
and
our
seniors
right
now,
it's
a
state
code.
R1
we've
got.
D
D
Oh
good,
okay,
so
we're
right
on
target
good.
Okay,
we're
also
going
to
talk
about
veterans
too
veterans
that
that
tax
exemption,
it's
costing
us
144
500.,
but
getting
back
to
the
seniors.
D
That's
we're
crediting
almost
11
million
dollars
in
assessment
for
the
seniors
when
they
turn
65
and
that's
what
170
dollars.
So
I
would
think
with
simple
math:
if
we
doubled
it,
it's
going
to
cost
us
an
additional
283
thousand
dollars
whether
we
can
afford
that
in
this
tax
rate,
I'm
not
suggesting
this
to
and
raise
the
tax.
D
That's
the
question!
I
don't
know,
I
don't
think
any
of
us
know
yet,
but
I
think
it's
long
time
that
we
consider
increasing
the
senior
exemption
and
we'll
talk
about
the
veterans
too.
But
right
now,
I'm
talking
about
the
senior
exemption.
We
have
a
large
population
of
west
walwick
and
tax
rates
are
hurting
everybody,
but
it's
particularly
harmful
to
the
seniors
that
typically
live
on
a
fixed
income
and
again
we're
giving,
as
far
as
I
can
see,
the
lowest
in
the
state.
Okay,.
C
So
what
I
think
you
need
to
do
is
look
at
veterans.
At
the
same
time.
I
understand
you
you're
concerned
with
seniors,
but
just
so
we
know
what
type
of
playing
field
we're
going
to
be
talking
about.
You
can
adjust
one
and
then
make
all
these
changes,
then
adjust
veterans
and
then
wait
a
minute.
We
got
to
go
back
and
adjust
that.
I
think
we
want
to
know
how
many
veterans.
D
D
At
least
yeah
at
least
they
would
benefit
from
it.
Also,
I
I've
got
on
the
table
right
now.
The
seniors
you
want
to
bring
on
the
table
the
veterans.
C
Adding
up
all
the
dollars
is
what
I'm
saying
say:
hey
look.
If
we're
gonna
give
seniors
25
a
year,
just
a
hypothetical
figure.
We
know
how
much
we've
got
to
make
up.
If
we're
going
to
raise
the
same
for
for
veterans,
we'll
know
how
much
we've
got
to
make
up
add
those
two
together,
then
we
can
make
the
necessarily
necessary
adjustments.
C
F
Know
I
think
today
I
talk,
I
agree
with
you.
100
take
care
of
the
seniors
they
can't
afford
it.
I
spoke
to
a
couple
just
recently
where
someone
in
pension-
and
it
don't
doesn't
go
to
a
couple.
It
goes
to
a
lot.
Some
people
right
in
this
room
where,
when
they
retired
their
pensions,
were
900
a
month
800
hours
a
month,
they
waited
till.
They
were
65.
Some
waited
till
70..
F
Their
taxes
are
six
thousand
dollars
a
year.
So
if
they're
an
average
person,
that's
making
800
a
thousand
dollars
a
month.
Half
of
that
is
going
towards
taxes.
That's
not
counting
what
they're
getting
taxed
on.
That's
not
count
when
they're
medical,
their
medicaid,
that's
not
counting
their
prescriptions.
Yeah.
C
I'd
like
to
throw
one
other
thing
into
the
mix:
sorry
to
complicate
this
more
but
disabled
veterans,
I
was
having
a
conversation
with
a
neighbor
the
other
day
or
even
in
a
worse
fix,
yeah.
You
know,
folks,
who
have
made
the
ultimate
sacrifice
and
sacrifice
their
their
bodies
for
us,
and
now
they're
they're
left
in
a
debilitating
condition,
in
my
opinion,
deserve
a
little
more.
D
Yeah
there's
100
disabled
we've
got
in
this
town
that
are
applying
for
the
exemption.
33.
yeah
widows
of
veterans-
we've
got
303.,
there's
other.
You
know
other
other
categories
too
star.
What
is
the
star
of
christian.
F
That's
the
that's
the
gold
star
or
when
the
law
starts,
childing.
D
Okay
right
there's
four
of
those.
C
D
Where
the
veteran
is
the
individual?
Okay,
I'm
just
again,
I
don't
any
objection.
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
bringing
you
know
anybody
here.
If
they
want
to
include
this
in
the
mix.
Fine,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
difficult
enough
just
as
seniors,
but
my
priority
is
the
the
seniors
on
no.
B
It's
important
to
talk
and
talk
about
numbers,
because
the
numbers
are
going
to
have
a
direct
effect
on
the
other
tax
rates,
but
just
just
my
opinion,
I
like
seeing
it
attached
to
a
a
val,
an
evaluation
dollar
amount,
as
opposed
to
a
fixed
dollar
amount,
because
it
kind
of
makes
it
so
that
you
don't
have
to
keep
going
back
to
it
year
after
year.
It
kind
of
rides
the
tax
rate
that's
going
on.
So,
for
example,
right
now
we
have
a
fixed
dollar
for
seniors
of
170,
which
just
translates
to
6548
dollars.
B
B
B
F
D
D
B
D
B
Yeah,
but
just
to
move
the
conversation
forward,
I
really
think
we
should
be
at
10
000
minimum
for
our
seniors.
I
mean
personally,
I
don't
mind
working
a
little
harder
so
that
my
grandparents
can
have
a
little
bit
more
that
that's
just
my
personal
philosophy
in
this,
and
I
think
that,
right
now
the
170
doesn't
have
any
effect
doesn't
relate
to
2016
bills
or
what
you
know
like
angela
was
saying
what
our
seniors
expenses
currently
are.
I
just
that's
peanuts.
That's
like
going
out
to
dinner
twice
so
so
if.
H
F
F
A
G
Well,
I
would
suggest
first
of
all,
there's
there's
one
number
we're
still
waiting
on,
and
that
is
the
the
value
the
assessed
value
for
the
motor
vehicles.
Now
we
would
anticipate
that
to
go
up
because
car
sales
have
been
up,
people
have
been
buying
more.
F
G
So
that
might
change
we
and
we
would
anticipate
that
number
to
go
up.
We
don't
know
by
how
much
so
what
I
would
suggest
is
that
over
the
next
week-
or
so
we'll
know
that
number
and
that
way
we
can
say
based
upon
that,
because
we
can't
touch
that
rate,
that
tax
rate
that's
set
by
state
law,
so
we
could
say
right
away.
Well,
then,
we
have
x
more
than
we
anticipated
because
we're
basing
currently
this
spreadsheet
off
of
last
year's
numbers,
because
that's
what
we
have.
D
Yeah
yeah
exactly
I
could.
I
don't
have
2016
correct,
but
but
that's
that
so
I
don't
have
the
new
assessments
in
here
guys
but
david.
That's.
We
would
only
need
that
283
if
we
doubled
it,
we're
not
saying
we're
going
to
double
it
if
we
bring
it
to
10,
000
credit.
That
would
be
if
this
tax
rate
is
equivalent
257,
so
we're
already
giving
170.
C
D
D
What's
the
anticipated
time,
you'll
have
it
when
I'm
done
testing
it
yeah.
I
think
I
should
be
done.
G
G
Just
just
a
note
on
that.
The
public
hearings
for
the
rebound
just
ended
on
friday,
as
well
so
christine
has
been,
and
have
been
working
very
hard
over
the
last
couple
days
to
get
those
values
into
the
system
to
be
able
to
give
you
what
we
gave
you
tonight
because
of
the
fact
that
those
hearings
did
just
end.
So
that
was
something
that
did
create
a.
C
Little
bit
of
a
delay
for
us,
because
we
wanted
an
opportunity
for
those
hearings
to
occur
and
have
to
see
what
those
numbers,
what
the
numbers
were
came
as
a
result
of
those.
C
Oh,
I
just
could
you
please?
You
know
hear
me,
and
so
the
revaluation
company
has
been
working
hard
to
try
to
get
those
people,
so
they
are
heard
so
the
cr.
If
there
is
an
error,
it
can
be
corrected,
so
they
really
were
at
the
last
minute.
They
were
just
getting
filled
up
and
making
you
know
so
they
didn't
want
to
release
the
information
early
because
they
knew
they
were
still
taxpayers.
That
really
wanted
to
be
heard
and
really
felt
like.
C
G
No,
we
do
right
now
by
state
law,
but
there's
this
proposal
at
the
legislature
right
now
to
go
five
and
fifteen,
but
right
now
it's
three
nine.
So
it's
statistical
every
three
years
in
a
full,
every
nine,
the
proposals
for
statistical
every
five
and
a
full,
every
15
there's
a
lot
of
pushback.
G
Against
that
saying,
it's
too
long
of
a
wait,
the
what's
it
the
rhode
island
center
for
was
the
taxpayer
group.
There
is
against
it
the
the
the
15
year,
they're
working
on
a
compromise,
we'll
see
if
it
gets
anywhere,
so
it
might
end
up
being
every
four
and
some
in
an
earlier
full
evaluation,
but
that's
still
in
the.
A
A
I
Name
is
dave
pimento,
45,
woodside
avenue.
I
just
heard
that
they're
hiring
the
assistant
chief
for
the
town
west
work
is
that
true,
it's
in
the
budget,
for
what
reason.
I
Because
the
thing
I
have
my
problem
is,
you
guys
came
to
us
and
asked
for
to
give
us
give
us
stuff
back
and
not
just
me.
It's
a
lot
of
other
people
that
have
to
get
stuff
back
when
we
retired
and
now
all
of
a
sudden,
I
heard
it's
like
100,
some
125
000,
it's
going
to
cross
the
town
for
an
assistant
chief
and
chief,
nothing
against
you.
I
D
Yeah,
can
I
just
say
also
that
it's
not
all
of
a
sudden.
This
is
probably
the
fourth
year
that's
been
requested.
We
went
through
the
five-year
plan,
we
said
no
a
couple
of
years
and
then
last
year
again
we
turned
him
down
again
last
year
with
the
promise
that
we
would
do
this
year.
So
it's
not
all
of
a
sudden.
This
has
been
going
on
for
at
least
four
years,
if
not
longer,
probably
longer
than
that,
and
we
felt
that
this
was
the
right
time
to
do.
It.
I
But
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong
chief,
you
have
been
on
vacation
and
never
hired
a
battalion
chief.
Am
I
correct
or
not
you
have
four
battalion
chiefs
that
you
could
have
put
in
all
right.
You
could
have
put
in
four
battalion
chiefs
into
that
position
when
he
had
left
me,
and
I
know
for
a
fact
that
he
hasn't.
C
It
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
when
I'm
away
it's
the
the
whole
process
of
the
organization.
We
have
a
73
person
department,
the
fire
service
has
expanded,
we
talked
about
grants,
ema
training,
the
the
job
has
changed.
We
need.
We
need
that.
We
need
to
train
our
offices
better
once
they
get
promoted,
there's
multiple,
multiple
tasks
that
need
to
be
done
in
the
service
today.
C
And
a
battalion
chief
does
not.
You
know
how
the
shift
schedule
schedules
work,
they're,
not
administrative
they're,
not
they're,
not
there
every
day
to
oversee
some
operations
besides
the
administrative
part
of
it.
It's
just
got
to
a
point
where
it's
time
and
the
size
of
this
department
and
busy
as
this
department
is
it's
well
overdue.
I
A
I
My
thing
is,
like
you
asked
us
to
give
up
stuff
for
my
pension,
and
I
just
can't
see
hiring
a
battalion
chief
when
the
town
is
the
fire
department's
been
running
good.
You
have
people
that
do
ems,
you
have
people
that
do
the
training.
We
don't
hire
all
the
time
and
that's
the
only
time
they
really
did
a
lot
of
trainings
when
they
hired
a
private.
I
As
far
as
what
he
said
to
train
their
offices,
you
take
a
test.
Whoever
comes
out
on
top
is
the
guy
that
gets
the
position,
I
think
by
taking
the
test
he's
qualified
and
what
I
want
else
to
get
back
to
is
the
two
family,
like
you
were
talking,
I
bought
it
through
family,
so
that
way
there
it
wouldn't
be
so
hard
on
myself
and
my
family
for
a
mortgage.
A
A
I
did
I
did
the
same
thing
you
did.
I
moved
into
this
town
at
19
years
old
bought
my
house
off
my
grandmother's
estate
and
I
need
you
know,
I'm
making
seven
dollars
an
hour.
I
needed
a
second
family
to
supplement
me
to
have
a
a
place
to
live
and
it's
still
owner
occupied.
My
father
lives
there
today
and
I'm
sitting
here
saying
you
know
he's
on
a
fixed
income.
A
I
A
And
I'm
even
looking
at
my
single
family,
you
know
seven
thousand
dollars
a
year.
Is
you
know
when
I,
when
I
first
built
the
house
in
all
three,
it
was
4
800
a
year,
and
here
we
are
going
up
to
2016
and
I'm
at
seven
thousand
dollars
a
year.
You
know
and
when
we
talk
about
pay
raises
and
all
my
income
hasn't
drastically
gone
up
that
much.
I
know.
I
G
Thank
you
and
I'd
just
like
to
bring
up
one
point
with
respect
to
that
position
and
others
that
we've
talked
about
here
in
the
past
the
five-year
plan
we
have
been
tracking,
at
least
a
million
dollars
lower
than
the
five-year
plan
every
year
of
this
plan
so
far,
including
what's
proposed
right
now,
with
that
position,
we're
a
million
dollars
less
than
what
was
written
to
that
five-year
plan.
G
When
we
made
all
those
negotiations
and
those
numbers
were
driven
largely
by
the
state
that
made
suggestions
for
adding
positions
so
that
we
can
get
up
to
an
operable
level
that
is
sufficient
for
a
town
of
our
size
because
they
saw
a
lot
of
issues
with
our
staffing.
So
just
so,
you
know
right
now
the
way
the
budget's
set
currently
we're
over
a
million
dollars
less
on
the
town
side
than
the
five-year
plan,
and
we
were
a
lot
more
than
a
million
dollars
less
the
last
two
years
because
we
were
supposed
to
be
running.
G
Two
million
dollar
deficits
deficits
and
we
did
not
so
just
know
that
whenever
something
like
this
comes
up,
we
find
it
and
we
make
it
work
and
we
find
ways
to
make
it
work.
So
it's
not
we're
not
spending
outside
of
what
we
sat
down
and
agreed
to
in
fact
we're
spending
a
lot
less.
A
And
I
I
just
want
to
clarify
it.
You
know
it's
amazing.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
complaint
about
the
assistant
chief,
but
that's
not
the
only
position
that
we're
looking
at
hiring
in
the
town,
we're
looking
at
the
assistant
chief
assistant
to
the
pa,
dpw
open
the
library
longer
hours,
a
full
time,
part-time
to
full-time
dog
officer.
A
I
think
these
positions
are
what
is
that
an
additional
maintenance
person?
So
I
mean
these.
These
positions
aren't
to
hurt
the
town.
These
are
all
to
help
the
town.
You
know
you
look
at
you
know
I
brought
up
to
chief
silva.
The
dog
officer
went,
I
think,
three
years
by
herself,
one
person
trying
to
run
that
entire
department
with
the
assistance
of
the
police
department.
Obviously,
but
we
burnt
that
individual
out
we,
you
know
why
other
people
had
other
people
to
back
them
up.
There
was
nobody
to
back
up
that
individual.
A
A
A
You
know
we
looked
at
bringing
parks
and
rec
over
with
dpw
and
give
an
assistant.
So
that
way
there.
When
we
have
these
bad
months
of
snowstorms
and
knockout,
we
had
a
pretty
decent
year.
The
storms
were
spread
out,
but
when
we
have
those
bad
times-
and
you
know
dave's
gone
home,
there's
somebody
there
to
assist
him,
whoever
that
may
be
the
library
if
anybody
it's
in
my
ward,
if
anybody
heard
it
the
most
about
that
library
being
closed.
I
didn't
hear
from
just
residents
of
this
town.
A
I
heard
it
from
people
who
come
from
west
greenwich
coventry
who
don't
go
to
the
coventry
library.
They
come
to
champlain
library
for
the
job
program.
On
monday
night
you
know
and
they're
like
wow
you're
closing
the
library
it's
very
useful
there
and
you
know,
we've
had
a
plan
for
the
past
couple
of
years
and
the
libraries
come
up
to
us
and
said
you
know
we
we
understand,
but
we
want
to
phase
it
back
to
getting
open.
Was
it
56
hours
a
week?
A
Something
like
that.
So
I
mean
everything
that
we're
doing.
Last
year
we
had
an
hr
director.
I
think
that
was
a
positive
impact
on
the
tom
full-time
town
planner,
who
has
been
working
with
the
redevelopment
commission
here
in
audit
and
spending
a
lot
of
time
working
with
developments
coming
up
on
north
pleasant
street
developments
that
are
looking
to
come
on
harris
avenue
again.
You
know
he's
spending
a
lot
of
time
doing
that
it's
only
for
the.
D
Betterment
of
the
town
and
david-
let's
not
forget
that
also
was
recommended
by
the
state
too.
That
was
one
of
the
things
we
we
had
tore
apart
over
the
last
10
20
years
because
of
budget
cuts
and
everything
the
management
of
the
of
the
town,
and
I
I
agree
with
you:
100
we're
not
just
putting
these
people
on
lucy
cousy,
I
mean
we're
we're
studying
it.
D
A
lot
of
the
credit
goes
to
our
department,
heads
and
our
town
manager,
we're
so
far
ahead
of
where
we
were
just
a
few
years
ago
of
what
this
town
is
doing,
and
I
know
all
these
all
you
guys
up
here
brag
about
it
often
I
mean
this
town
is
really
doing
so
much
better
in
the
last
few
years
and
I
hope
to
to
continue
it,
but
we're
not
going
to
just
stand
still
and
if
we
see
where
there
should
be
another
position
like
the
chiefs
or
the
hr
or
the
town
planner
or
whatever
we're
going
to
look
at
it
and
if
it
makes
sense
we're
going
to
put
it
in
we're,
not
doing
it
for
ourselves.
D
I
don't
think
we
get
any
points
for
it,
but
we're
doing
it
for
the
taxpayers.
Who've
put
us
here
to
try
to
run
this
town
the
best
way
we
we
see
and
we're
here
we
hear
about
it.
We
talk
to
the
manager
and
it's
it's
it's
it's
not
without
any
thought
that
we
put
on
an
additional
person,
because
we
know
it
costs
money.
Sorry,
that's
jerusalem's.
D
C
If
I
can
say
to
ed
just
to
add
to
what
you're
saying
that
we're
in
a
better
position
today
for
the
sacrifices
that
employees
and
pensioners
made
along
with
smart
business
with
smart
business,
moves
that
we've
made
whittling
down
from
whittling
down
from
29
or
30
healthcare
plans
to
two
or
three,
but
also
in
conjunction
with
the
sacrifices
that
that
pensioners
made.
H
Paul
patrozzi,
owner
of
valley,
fuel
and
warwick
oil
and
main
street
in
westwood.
I
can
appreciate
everything
that
you're
saying
anybody
in
this
room.
That
knows
me,
which
almost
everyone
does
knows
that
I'm
all
for
the
betterment
of
this
town.
I
think
the
problem
that
some
people
are
having
here.
I
think
your
timing
is
very
bad.
You
want
to
talk
about
sacrificing.
You
want
to
talk
about
wearing
people
out
in
and
killing
people
a
dog
officer
myself
and
david
pimentel,
and
many
guys,
like
us,
worked
for
many
years,
one
man
on
a
fire
truck.
H
If
you
people
are
coming
up
with
all
this
money
for
hr
people
and
assistant
chiefs
and
everything
else
you're
talking
about
how
about
giving
me
my
caller
back
how
about
let's
cut
this
five-year
plan
in
half
and
if
you've
got
all
this
money,
how
about
putting
it
into
the
pension?
How
about
doing
all
the
things
that
you
were
supposed
to
be
doing
here
to
put
this
town
back
on
track?
H
All
these
people
are
good
things,
don't
get
me
wrong,
but
at
the
right
time
I
mean
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
five-year
plan.
Here.
Where
are
you
getting
all
this
money
from
if,
if
you're
coming
in
a
million
under
how
about
how
about
putting
that
money
towards
the
five-year
plan
and
giving
us
our
money
back
well,
that.
G
G
Paul
all
these,
the
hr
position
was
mandated
by
the
state
as
part
of
the
agreement,
as
well
as
of
several
of
the
other
positions.
They
stated,
these
office
were
understaffed,
they
built
it
in.
They
had
us
built
it
into
the
five-year
plan.
We
are
complying
with
the
five-year
plan
and
we're
doing
better
than
the
five-year
plan,
and
that's.
H
H
D
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
that
all
of
our
budget
hearings
have
been
taped.
Okay,
so
all
the
testimony
is
being
taped
and
stored
forever.
So,
if
you
want
to
know
reasoning
behind
any
of
these
things,
everything
was
open.