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A
C
E
I
have
yes
just
one
thing
after
reviewing
the
minutes
today,
I
I
couldn't
open
the
minutes
and
I
I
sent
everybody
an
email
to
see
if
everybody
had
the
same
issue,
there's
a
an
error
on
the
minutes
and
the
section
where
it's
under
claims
l
when
it
says
a
roll
call
vote,
councilman
padula
abstained,
councilman,
gosling
recused.
E
I
said
I
said
yes,
councilman
messier
said
yes
and
counseling
to
me.
Councilman
damico
had
said
no
correct.
No,
I
said
yes,
so
was
it.
B
G
A
B
A
G
H
Good
evening,
council,
previously
in
one
of
the
meetings.
I
About
a
month
or
so
ago,
we
had
some
conversations
I
had
introduced
mark
and
I
had
had
some
conversations
about
potentially
bringing
a
company
by
the
name
of
profit
search
to
do
an
accounts,
payable
recovery,
audit
of
payments
credits
and
things
of
that
nature.
I
invited
michael
trooper
and
doug
costello
here
tonight
from
profit
search
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
what
the
what
their
work
would
be
and
answer
any
questions.
The
council
has.
A
Thank
you,
michael
just
state,
your
name
and
who
you
represent.
Doug.
G
On
doing
the
synopsis
would
be
in
a
letter
that
was
dated
july
28
to
mark
carulla,
where
we
explained
who
we
are
and
the
service
that
we
provide,
which
is
basically
to
search
through
the
payment
records
of
organizations
and
to
find
where
they've
spent
too
much
money
or
spent
money.
They
didn't
have
to
spend
or
maybe
spend
it
erroneously.
G
G
Haven't
been
applied
to
invoices
that
have
been
built
at
the
organization.
G
Yes,
we've
done
in
rhode,
island
we've
done
audits
at
the
city
of
providence
and
we've
done
an
audit
at
the
city
of
cranston,
rhode
island.
Also,
in
massachusetts,
we
did
the
town
of
framingham.
What's
your
average
recovery,
it
depends
a
lot
on
circumstances
in
the
in
the
and
the
management
of
the
function
in
the
finance
department.
Generally
speaking,
we
find
from
about
five
thousand
to
fifty
thousand
on
a
hundred
million
dollars
of
payments.
G
I
know
how
you
get
paid
to
be
public.
We
get
paid
on
the
funds
that
are
refunded
by
the
vendors,
so
we
get
a
percentage
of
the
money
that
comes
back
to
the
organization.
If
there's
no
money
that
comes
back,
then
there's
no
fee.
What's.
D
A
Is
this
is
money
so,
for
instance,
let's
say
wb
mason
charged
just
seven
percent
sales
tax
and
we
weren't
supposed
to
be
charged
for
that
seven
percent
sales
tax.
They
would
go
after
wb
mason
for
that
seven
percent
of
sales
tax
that
we
may
have
paid
so
yeah
you're
right.
It's
money.
We
would
never
probably
see
unless
it's
ordered
and
looked
for
so
seems
like
a
pretty
easy
decision.
I
mean
it's,
they
do
get
one
third,
but
we
still
get
six.
D
A
D
G
You
mentioned
wb
mason.
We
got
we're.
I
G
D
D
K
A
I
A
B
D
L
Councilman,
it's
come
to
my
attention
that
there
have
been
some
concerns
about
one
of
the
funding
sources
that
was
presented
in
the
ordinance
related
to
opec,
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
item.
If
I
may.
C
L
So,
basically,
what
we
will
be
doing,
rather
than
using
money,
that's
in
the
general
fund
to
pay
for
these
retiree
benefits
or
health
care
bills
would
be
to
submit
those
and
have
the
opeb
trust
actually
pay.
Those,
and
just
to
clarify
that
is
an
allowed
use
of
the
opeb
trust
fund
under
the
rhode
island,
general
law.
It
allows
you
to
pay
current
and
future
retiree
benefits,
so
that's
what
the
town
would
be
doing
just
to
clarify
a
little
bit
further
of
the
1.7
million
dollars
that
is
currently
in
the
opeb
trust
fund
about
255.
L
L
I
explained
to
him
the
process
that
we
were
going
through
the
process
that
we
went
through
to
make
a
determination
about
that
money.
I
think
we
cleared
up
some
misconceptions
or
misunderstandings
on
his
behalf,
but
I
also
assured
him
that
we
would.
We
would
use
a
balance
of
the
fund
balance
in
the
opeb
trust
to
try
to
use
as
little
of
the
opec
trust
funds
as
possible
so
that
you
know
that
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
a
not
to
exceed
number
we're
expecting
to
use
much
less
than
that
number.
We
don't
know
the
number
yet.
L
However,
I
can
say
that
you
know
since
our
original
discussion,
the
deficit
was
around
1.4
million.
Now
it's
down
a
little
bit
below
1.2
million
so
that
you
know
daily.
That's
going
down
a
little
bit
and
we're
probably
going
to
come
to
a
a
reasonable
conclusion
fairly
soon,
hopefully,
beyond
around
a
million
dollars
and
we'll
be
able
to
just
touch
very
little
bit
of
that
opeb
trust
fund,
we
don't
know
the
amount
yet,
but
that's
the
intensity.
L
E
Mark
with
with
any
this
goes
back
to
profit
search
if
they,
if
they
find
whatever
they
find
say
it's
fifty
thousand
dollars
goes
back
to
to
us.
Will
that
money
go
back
to
the
2000
last
year's
budget
as
no.
L
It
would
not
it
would
it
would.
It
would
come
in
as
a
receivable
this
year
and
reduce
this
year's
deficit.
Well,.
D
D
B
M
M
She
basically
sent
me
this
message.
She
couldn't
make
it
here
tonight,
so
I'm
presenting
this
for
her
and
it
goes
as
follows.
We
can't
continue
to
go
over
budget
by
one
million
dollars
every
year.
We
don't
even
have
enough
in
back
taxes
to
cover
the
extra
expenses
for
the
last
three
years,
and
you
know
that
we
will
never
collect
all
the
motor
vehicle
back
taxes.
M
We
have
not
met
the
five-year
plan
goals
at
all.
The
only
way
to
get
the
budget
back
on
track
is
to
cut
expenses.
The
planned
budget
has
to
be
realistic.
We
have
not
been
collecting
as
much
taxes
as
the
budget
has
assumed.
We
would
department
heads
have
to
stay
within
their
allocated
budget,
and
this
is
from
helene.
I
recommend
a
five
percent
cut
in
this
year's
budget
for
the
police,
fire
and
general
government
budget.
Every
other
department
should
be
cut
three
percent.
No
cuts
in
the
school
department
also
impose
a
hiring
freeze.
M
M
M
M
L
This
is
an
exercise
that
we've
gone
through,
okay
and
we
will
be
going
through
this
exercise
in
the
2018
budget.
We're
going
to
look
at
revenues
and
expenses,
and
and
what
she's
done
here-
and
this
is
a
historical
perspective-
is
determine
a
variance
between
the
two
right.
So
so
what
you've
got
here
is
here's
your
expenses,
oh.
L
L
L
We're
going
to
recreate
those
budgets
bring
the
department
heads
in
have
another
discussion
determine
where
they
can
make
those
cuts,
and
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying,
because
that's
the
exact
exercise
we're
about
to
go
through
and
come
up
with
more
realistic
revenue
projection
determine
what
the
difference
is
and
close
that
gap
as
we
go
through
the
year.
We
will
be
back
to
the
council
at
least
once
this
year,
if
not
more
than
once,
to
make
those
amendments
to
the
budget
moving
forward,
as
is
required
under
the
charter.
M
L
L
No,
I
understood
so,
but
let
me
just
explain
so
so
there
is.
There
are
tax
sales
that
happen,
that's
taxes
that
are
in
arrears
there.
There
are
tax
agreements,
that
would
be
taxes
in
the
rears,
and
there
is
a
number
that
is
plugged
into
the
budget
called
prior
year.
Collectibles,
which
are
taxes
in
the
rears.
M
L
So
that's
a
number:
that's
in
there
that's
a
number
we
we
also
have
to
look
at
and
then
there
are
like
non-collectibles.
So
if
someone
owns
owns
a
tangible
tax,
they've
liquidated
their
business.
It's
probably
going
to
be
a
non-collectible
at
some
point,
but
we
do
have
a
collection
company
out
there
trying
to
collect
that
money.
You
also
have
the
other
one.
The
other
big
one
is
motor
vehicles
right.
So
so
people
live
in
your
community.
If
they're
transient,
you
know
they.
L
M
L
B
E
10
years
but
since
I've
been
tax,
collector.
A
M
L
So
so
hannah
just
to
address
that
for
a
minute,
there's
there's
a
number
in
the
budget
the
prior
year
collectible,
that's
the
number
you're
talking
about,
because
that's
a
number
that
is
a
delinquent
tax
or
tax
in
the
rears.
We
need
to
go
back
and
look
at
that
number
and
make
a
more
realistic
projection
of
how
much
we're
collecting
in
prior-
it's
not
just
the
previous
year,
but
it's
prior
years,
taxes
going
back.
We
need
to
make
an
adjustment
to
that
number.
We
need
to
re-look
at
that
number.
L
I
think
that's
what
you're
saying
as
far
as
those
dropping
off.
If
that
number
is
realistic,
okay
and
we're
we're
making
that
number
every
year,
what
isn't
being
collected
what's
on
the
books
is
not
really
relevant
to
the
budget,
it's
more
relevant
to
an
audit,
and
there
are
processes
and
procedures
that
you
can
go
through
with
the
auditor
and
the
council
to
basically
dispose
of
those
non-collectibles
right.
L
It's
just
something
to
straighten
out
your
books,
but
I
understand
what
you're
saying
and
we
are
going
to
we're-
also
going
through
that
process
to
look
at
the
prior
years
and
come
up
with
a
more
realistic
number
of
what
we're
actually
collecting,
historically
and
hopefully
projecting
forward,
and
that
is
a
revenue
source
and
that
revenue
source
you
know.
Traditionally,
I
guess,
has
been
estimated
to
be
higher
than
actual
right.
M
That's
been
the
problem,
and
just
one
quick
thing
about
the
service
that
we
were
just
discussing
to
go
through
the
bills
to
collect
monies
that
were
accidentally
paid
in
credits
that
were
missed.
Do
we
have
any
information
that
says
that
this
has
been
occurring?
I'm
just
curious.
A
M
A
A
A
To
spare,
but
that's
the
question
I
asked
anna
and
I
asked
the
same
exact
question
you're
asking
me
now
and
I
said
how:
how
much
could
there
be
and
like
he
said,
wb
mason
up
at
the
school
department?
I
don't
know
how
much
it
was
or
anything
like
that,
but
whatever
money
we're
paying
in
taxes
or
whatever
that
we
should
not
have
paid
you
know
somebody
comes
in,
sends
a
bill
from
wb
mason
and
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
five
thousand
dollars
in
paper.
You
spent
350
on
taxes.
M
H
Alan
palazzo,
five,
robin
lynn,
westwork
and
just
to
comment
with
regard
to
taxes,
were
almost
one
third
of
the
way
through
the
fiscal
year
in
the
old
days,
because
I've
been
attending
these
meetings
a
very
long
time.
H
The
there
used
to
be
for
the
town
council
a
section
on
their
reports
that
listed
actual
budget
or,
should
I
say,
budgeted,
expenses
and
actual
expenses
to
date.
It
was
like
every
two
weeks.
They
could
look
at
it
and
I
know
that
slides
as
people
continue
to
pay.
But
I
understand
that's
not
there
anymore,
you
don't
have
a
ready
reference
where
we
have
collected
25
percent
of
the
taxes
we
have
are
expected
to
spend
25
of
the
budget.
By
this
time
we've
spent
35
things
like
that
already
referenced.
H
I
don't
have
the
records,
we
don't
have
the
audit,
but
if
it's
true
that
for
the
five-year
plan,
you're
running
million
a
million
dollar
deficit
every
year,
it's
gonna
hit
the
fan.
It
doesn't
take
a
rocket
scientist
to
realize
that
we
can't
do
it.
Some
of
my
sailors
used
to
think
they
had
money
because
they
had
checks
in
their
checkbook.
H
Christine
christine
mentioned
exactly
25
percent
of
the
budget
that
was
past
history.
That's
what
used
to
happen
at
these
council
meetings.
Trust
me.
I've
been
here
probably
longer
than
you
know.
Mr
boyer's
got
me
bert
and
mrs
padula,
maybe
mr
williamson,
but
I've
been
here
for
these
meetings.
I've
stood
here
before
and
I
know
what
these
got,
what
you
your
predecessors
received.
H
L
Matters,
mr
palazzo.
We
are
in
the
process
of
doing
that,
so
you
know
in
my
old
job
I
used
to
look
at
that
weekly
personally,
okay,
so
we're
going
through
that
exercise.
Currently
we
will
be
reporting
that
and
to
be
quite
honest
with
you,
that's
not
the
council's
job
to
do
that.
That's
my
job
as
a
town
manager.
So
if
I,
if
I'm
not
doing
that
as
a
town
manager,
I'm
not
doing
my
job
but.
L
Them,
please
don't,
but
they
will
be
informed
and
they
will
be
informed
by
either
myself,
the
finance
director
or
the
new
town
manager
moving
forward
we're
working
on
that
process,
we're
almost
a
third
of
the
year
through
third
third
of
the
way
through
the
year.
That
would
be
in
october
right.
That's
a
tiny,
tiny
thing,
but
a
quarter
of
the
way
yeah
we're
definitely
a
quarter
of
the
way
and
john,
and
I
were
actually
going
over
those
numbers
earlier
today
and
firming
those
up.
You
know
it
takes.
L
L
H
L
I
I
Thanks
jasmine
conkin
79
lexington
avenue,
I
actually
have
something
else
to
say
later
about
the
west
fork
lines
club
a
nice
update,
but
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
this
budget
conversation.
So
most
of
you,
if
not
all
of
you-
are
business
owners
that
are
sitting
here
and
I'm
sure
you
operate
at
least
in
the
black,
not
in
the
red,
and
if
you
were
in
the
red
you.
G
I
Some
serious
conversations,
so
I
just
want
you
to
think
of
as
you
go
through
this
auditing
process
and
looking
at
what
we're
spending
this
year
to
look
at
it
as
if
we're
actually
a
company
and
not
just
an
organization
with
what
you
what
user
said
about
having
a
checkbook
with
unlimited
funds
behind
it.
When
I
was
in
sales,
we
had
sales
forecasts
that
I
was
accountable
for
weekly.
I
I
Please
just
take
a
look
at
it
as
we're
running
a
business
here,
you're
you're
dealing
with
our
money,
the
people
that
are
citizens
that
are
paying
our
taxes
every
year,
we're
looking
to
you
and
everybody
who
did-
and
I
did
vote
yes
on
the
budget,
because
I
expected
what
I
voted
for
was
actually
going
to
happen.
So
I
just
asked
that
you
look
at
this
jay.
You
know.
I
know
you
have
a
successful
business
as
well.
I
Look
at
this
as
if
it
was
your
personal
checkbook
that
you're
writing
money,
for
we
shouldn't
have
departments
that
can
just
spend
money
freely
without
getting
approval
beforehand.
I
can't
spend
money
at
my
job
without
asking
before
I
spend
it
and
if
I
spend
it,
I
don't
expect
a
blank
check
back
from
my
boss
to
cover
the
expenses.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
Oh,
I'm
sorry
h
did
I
go
right
over
it?
Yes,
I
did.
I'm
sorry
ordinance,
number
2017-23,
first
reading
sponsored
by
council
president
gosling
and
council
vice
president
d'amico,
an
ordinance
amending
sections,
9.5
and
10.7.3
of
the
west
warwick
zoning
code
of
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
town
of
westworld,
move.
K
That's
the
house
housekeeping
matter.
The
state
statute
says
that,
from
the
time
somebody
files
an
application
to
the
zoning
board,
it's
supposed
to
be
heard
in
an
expeditious
manner,
for
a
special
use
permit
or
a
variance
for
some
reason.
Our
audience
says
30
days
and
that's
not
what
the
statute
says.
So
this
is
just
to
bring
our
audience
in
compliance
with
the
state
statute.
E
A
E
D
B
20
2017-25
first
reading,
sponsored
by
council
president
gaza
and
council
vice
president
d'amico,
an
ordinance
amending
5.301,
wind
energy
conversion
systems,
5.1.7,
wind
energy
conversion
systems,
wecs
by
repealing,
said
sections
in
its
entirety
and
adopting
a
new
section.
5.17
wind
energy
systems
and
5.21
green,
renewable
or
alternative
energy
installations
and
facilities.
Green
projects
of
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
town
of
west
warwick
move.
K
A
number
of
years
ago
there
was
a
town
planner,
mr
malavich,
who
put
into
a
drafted
and
brought
before
the
council.
The
council
adopted
a
wind
energy
system
ordinance.
It's
been
on
the
books
a
number
of
years.
K
A
few
years
ago,
town
manager
presley
asked
me
to
draft
an
ordinance
called
the
green
ordnance
that
would
take
care
of
all
solar
power
wind
power.
What
have
you
when
I
drafted
that
I
was?
I
unfortunately
did
not
give
consideration
the
fact
that
we
all
already
had
a
window
and
inside
so
we
ended
up
with
two
ordinances
that
affected
wind
energy.
When
we
had
the
application
for
a
wind
turbine
out
in
the
business
park.
This
created
a
problem
because
there
was
some
conflicting
land,
a
convicted,
conflicting
language
in
the
two
ordinances.
K
So
what
this
ordinance
does?
Is
it
number
one
repeals
the
old
wind
ordnance
which
today
doesn't
doesn't
meet
the
standards
and
number
two
in
the?
It
leaves
the
green
ordnance
in
place
only
it
says,
accepting
wind
on
a
wind
ex
wind
energy
system,
so
the
wind
energy
system
is
in
its
ordinance.
All
of
the
green
energy
is
in
a
separate
audience
that
takes
care
of
that
one.
K
I
went
through
that.
It
talks
about
flickr.
It
talks
about
noise.
It
gives
you
all
of
the
stuff
that
a
community
attempting
to
build
an
ordinance
should
take
into
consideration,
following
that,
I
researched
the
municipal
ordinances
of
all
communities
in
the
state
and
read
those
ordinances,
those
communities,
ordinances
that
have
wind
energy
in
them.
K
K
K
The
ordinance
is
quite
detailed.
There
I
set
out
in
the
audience
detailed
standards
of
what
they
must
meet.
It
involves
the
construction,
the
location,
noise
standards,
shadow
flicker
standards,
faa,
federal
and
state
regulations,
so
that
I've
placed
a
great
burden
on
the
applicant
in
the
past
they
came
in
and
they
said.
Oh
you
know,
our
company
did
a
wins,
flicker
study
and
it's
okay.
K
We
in
this
audience
we're
asking
them
to
come
in
with
expertise
to
say
that
this
is
the
study
on
the
noise.
This
is,
for
example,
the
noise
I
took,
we
have
in
the
town
an
audience.
That's
got
a
50
decibel
limit
on
noise,
so
I
use
that
that
we
presently
have-
and
that's
that's.
A
C
A
Words
from
7
a.m
to
11
p.m;
it's
55
decibels
for
our
9
p.m
and
9
p.m,
to
7
a.m.
It's
50
decibels.
K
Because
people
operate
on
a
daylight
schedule
and
wind
doesn't
so
you
know
you
can't
say
night
night,
it's
got
to
be
different.
What
I
did
to
protect
that
was
there
is
a
special
provision
in
that
section.
That
says,
however,
even
though
you
mean
it
if,
for
some
reason,
the
zoning
board
wants
a
lower
level,
the
zoning
board
can
impose
that
based
on
the
location
of
it.
K
So
I
did
take
that
that
into
consideration
data
they're
going
to
meet
faa,
they
got
to
meet
standards
and,
as
I
said,
all
of
this
is
no
longer
the
applicant
coming
in
and
saying
you
know,
I
had
my
my
engineer
go
out,
and
this
is
what
he
says
they
got
to
come
in
with
expert
all
the
surveys
have
to
be
class.
One
surveys
professional
surveyors.
K
K
K
The
applicant
then
files
that
report,
along
with
all
the
necessary
documentation,
documentation
and
seeks
a
special
use
permit
from
the
zoning
board
the
zoning
board
in
the
ordinance.
Not
only
does
it
have
to
follow
the
exact
standards
that
it
has
to
follow
for
any
special
use
permit,
but
it
has
to
make
sure
it
follows
all
of
the
other
standards
I
I
put
in
place
here.
K
In
addition,
one
of
the
things
they
have
to
do
is
they
have
to
submit
an
operating
plan
that
goes
in
with
it,
so
that
it's
not
a
question
of
we
gave
you
permission
now.
Go
go
put
your
wind
turbine
up
you're,
going
to
tell
us
how
it's
going
to
operate
and
annually
you've
got
to
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
it's
being
operated
properly.
K
There's
safety
factors
in
there
that
the
the
the
wind
turbine
has
to
have
a
mechanism
that,
if
the
if
there's
ice
on
it,
it'll
stop
all
kinds
of
safety
factors
that
we've
built
in
once.
K
The
zoning
board
gives
the
the
approval
for
the
special
use
permit,
there's
a
bond
that
has
to
be
filed,
there's
permits
that
have
to
be
taken
out
and
the
whole
process
of
the
construction
even
to
the
point
where
they
have
to
bring
in
a
expert
that
will
satisfy
the
the
construction
of
the
foundation,
the
construction
they
all
have
to
be
monopoles,
no
more
erector
sets.
K
The
audience
goes
on
to
provide
that
when
it's
no
longer
in
use
the
the
demolition
and
the
removal
process
is
all
spelled
out
along
with
how
it
has
to
be
done,
that
the
property
has
to
be
returned
as
close
as
possible
to
what
it
was
and
there's
a
bonding
process
in
in
in
that
also
after
this
was
all
done
and,
as
I
said
at
that
stage
john
and
I
had
john
berner
and
I
had
gone
over
it.
I
then
met
with
mark
and
we
went
over
it.
K
I,
the
motion
has
been
made
to
adopt
this
audience.
I'm
asking
that
the
council
a
move
to
amend
this
ordinance
because
we
we've
just
discussing
it
with
mock.
There
were
a
couple
of
minor
changes.
One
was
on
what
the
setback
initially
and
I
and
I
put
it
in
and
then
I
realized
it
was
just
not
reasonable
from
where
the
wind
turbine
is.
K
If
the
wind
turbine
is
200
feet,
it
has
to
be
200,
400
foot
to
any
boundary
on
the
site,
property
or
continuing
contiguously
owned
site
property
400
feet
from
any
public
way,
and
it
can,
and
from
from
the
outer
edges
of
that,
the
outer
boundaries
of
that
site
property
in
all
zoning
and
planning.
You
have
to
give
notice
to
people
within
200
foot
radius,
it's
called
the
notice
zone
or
the
protective
zone
that
top
tower
cannot
be
get
the
setback
to
one
in
that
200-foot
area
from
any
occupied
building.
K
So
the
these
were
safeguards
we
put
in
and
we,
when
you
look
at
the
zoning
map
and
the
planning
map
of
the
town
realistically,
those
are
as
severe
as
you
can
get
anything
more
than
that
you're
just
saying
there
will
be
none.
Well,
that's.
A
K
This
point
turn
by
my
my
study
of
it.
I
felt
that
they
could
realistically
go
in
the
business
park
and
then
the
reason
it
says
the
r-10
zone
is
that
the
r-10
zone,
where
there
is
open
space,
is
the
the
the
hill
near
the
high
school
and
up
there
and
then
along
the
patuxent
route.
K
This
north
branch
north
side
of
the
patuxent
river
in
natick
and
then
up
into
the
areas
where
the
golf
courses
are
those
and
then,
when
john
brenero
reviewed
it,
he
was
the
one
who
said
I'm
suggesting
you
also
add
into
it
a
ci
zone
for
the
case
and
there's
two
different
types
of
systems
we
have
in
here.
One
is
the
I'll
call
it
the
individual
and
the
other
is
the
commercial.
K
A
Seems
very
strict.
I
understand
why
you
want
to
protect
neighborhoods
and
whatever
else,
but
it's
it's
almost
like
anti-wind
turbine
ordnance.
That's
what
I'm
getting
out
of
this
now.
I
find
it
a
little
difficult
that
we
just
went
into
an
18
million
dollar
deal
with
windmills
right
next
door.
Now
we,
as
a
town
may
say
we
want
two
more
here
in
town
and
we're
going
to
basically
drown
ourselves
out.
If
we
decide
we
want
to
say
we
want
to
put
up
at
the
high
school
or.
D
Well,
I
I
can
attest
to
what
you
said.
I
was
at
kevin
breen's
farm
and
they
were
so
loud.
It
was
unbelievable.
He
said
some
days
and
nights
are
louder
than
others
and
the
flickering
is
constant
when
the
sun's
out,
I'm
sure.
A
A
Noise
ordinance,
because,
if
you're
not
following
our
regular
noise
audience,
I
I
mean
I
got
a
north
pleasant
street.
I
got
a
jackhammer
from
7am
until
6pm
going
from
a
backhoe.
I.
A
K
F
Decibel
right
here
common,
so
you
know
if
you,
if
you
look
back
at
the
original
two
ordinances
that
you
mentioned,
they
were
extremely
outdated.
I
mean
most
areas
in
westwork
are
not
conducive
to
these
turbines.
We
do
have
turbines
that
we
purchase
but
they're
in
carpentry.
F
We
have
to
consider
you
know
the
town's
people
and
where
they
live,
and
how
the
proximity
to
these
things
and
I've
read
through
this
ordinance.
I
think
that
it
makes
perfect
sense.
Of
course
it
would
have
to
go.
Any
proposals
would
have
to
go
before
planning
go
before
zoning
and
they
would
make
the
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
you
know
dimensional
variances
or
what
have
you
would
have
to
be
put
in
place.
F
K
Is
the
process
that
the
council
just
mentioned
that,
as
I
said,
the
guy
who
wants
it
for
his
own
business,
the
200
feet
from
an
occupied
building?
K
I
don't
want
to
put
that
in
an
ordinance
at
90
feet.
I
want
it
at
the
100
and
then
let
the
the
zoning
board
look
at
the
facts
and
do
it
on
a
fact
by
fact
basis.
Unfortunately,
david.
What
you're
saying
is
that
when
I've
looked
at
the
maps
in
this
town,
there
just
realistically
is
no
place
in
this
town,
where
we
can
have
two
wind
turbines
so
like.
K
If
it
does
it
does
what
my
concern-
and
I
talked
with
john
about
it-
was
we
have
the
moratorium?
In
effect,
there's
been
talk
about
people
wanting
to
come
in
the
next
thing.
We
know
december
31st
is
here
and
we're
scrambling
again.
We
don't
have
an
audience
in
place.
We've
got
two
audiences
that
are
conflicting.
We've
got
an
ordinance
and
my
opinion
is
totally
outdated.
So
I
wanted
to
get
something
on
the
record.
I
gave
the
we
giving
the
the
zoning
board.
You
know
it
has
the
power
to
to
give
it
some
some
relief.
K
I
just
I
I
can't
I
can't
couldn't
go
along.
I
mean
if
I
can't
go
along,
it's
not
my
position,
but
if
the
council
wants
less,
they
can
have
it.
I
can
tell
you
it
had
to
go
to
the
planning
board,
because
that's
zoning
on
it's
out
of
containing
more
favorable
in
the
in
the
before
it
went
to
the
planning
board
the
fall
zone,
and
that
is
the
area
where,
if
the
thing
tips
over
and
or
if
a
piece
flies
or
off
it,
those
go
all
over
the
lot.
In
general,
the
standard
was
150.
K
So
if
you
had
a
200
foot
tower,
you
had
to
have
a
fault
zone
of
300
feet.
One
of
the
planning
board
members
last
night
was
insistent
and
in
the
amendment
I've
submitted
to
you
tonight.
K
It's
very
very
serious
questions
asked
and
difficult
to.
F
F
I
think
that
this
should
be
put
in
place
again
for
the
safety
and
overall
well-being
of
the
community,
and
should
it
go
before
again,
zoning
or
planning
and
some
type
of
variance
is
needing.
Let
them
decide
let
them
make
that
decision.
Then,
if
the
state
passes
something
different.
Well,
then
that
supersedes
what
we've
done
there.
K
Is
a
provision
in
here
that
any
federal
state
law
or
regulation
that
is
different
than
this
is
the
governing
the
governing
factor?
One
of
the
reasons
david
that
I
would
like
to
see
it
go
in
is
that
in
general
this
is
a
new
area.
K
A
K
Loosening
up
for
a
developer,
I'm
talking
about
when
when
we
all
of
a
sudden,
we
see
people
coming
in
and
saying:
hey
your
audience
is
impossible
at
that
point
in
time
we
can
work
on
our
ordinance.
I
wouldn't
want
to
go
the
other
way
where,
where
we've
opened
the
the
flood
gates
to
people
coming
in
because
of
the
the
opposition,
you
know
you're
sitting
as
councilman,
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
not
in
my
backyard.
A
A
D
D
D
K
K
Would
you
put
it
where
they
can
go?
Where
would
you
put
a
wind
turbine
in
central
falls?
You
know
I'm
just
saying
it's
so
built
up,
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
I,
if
the
confident
I'd
like
to
point
out
to
the
council,
is
the
language.
Its
purpose
of
the
purpose
of
this
section
is
to
recognize
that
wind
energy
systems
are
becoming
more
popular
alternative
energy
source
for
both
the
public
and
private
sector.
K
D
K
D
I
have
a
problem
now
I
mean
residential.
I
agree
with
you
100
nobody
wants
it
in
their
backyard.
It
would
destroy
the
quality
of
life
that
the
neighbors
have.
I
mean
I
agree
with
you.
110
percent
like
at
the
school
that
wasn't
feasible
because
of
the
tanglewood
hilltop
all
that.
But
if
you
have
someone
in
a
commercial
plot,
let's
take,
for
instance,
the
platinum
I
salvage
yard
45
businesses
there's
no
homes
over
there.
There's
no
houses,
that's
going
to
flow
in
council.
Let
me.
D
K
It's
allowed
in
r10,
it's
allowed
in
ci,
and
it's
allowed
in
the
business
now
once
you're
allowed
in
the
district,
then
you're
going
to
meet
the
other
regulations.
However,
those
other
regulations
are
the
one.
You
know
that
I
I
I
own
a
house.
That's
in
that
200
foots
protected
area
and
the
guy
who
wants
to
put
it
up
comes
up
to
me
and
says:
look
I
can't
put
it
up
because
you're
the
only
house
in
200
feet
and
I
can't
have
a
regular
he
I
can
say-
well
fine.
K
D
K
I
do
not
one
thing
that
I
I
would
feel
very
very
strongly
about,
and
that
is
if
the
council
felt
that
the
detailed
information
that
must
be
supplied
in
advance
if
the
council
felt
I
was
too
strong
in
that
and
the
reason
I
feel
very
very
strongly
about
that
was
when
we
had
the
last
application
we
had
employees
of
the
applicant
coming
in
with
their
their
diagrams
and
their
maps.
Talking
about
the
studies
they
did
on
the
flickr.
K
K
A
K
F
Feet
tall,
that's
right,
the
ones
that
are
in
coventry
are
like
256
from
the
bottoms
the
base,
with
the
with
the
blade,
probably
415
feet,
the.
A
K
A
K
K
And
the
the
fall
zone-
I
will
be
very
honest.
I
researched
not
only
rhode
island,
but
I
looked
up
fall
zone
and
I
couldn't
find
any.
I
mean
it's
there's
just
no
history,
but.
K
In
case
it
falls
or
a
blade
flies
off
as
a
matter
of
fact
and
peter
calcium
was
at
the
meeting
last
night
and
he
commented-
and
I
remembered
it
after
he
said
so
of
the
last
hearing.
We
had
that.
Apparently
these
model
monopoles
are
built
so
that,
if
something
should
happen,
they
are
built
to
collapse.
Halfway
up
so
it
you
know,
the
fall
zone
is
not
is
not
as
dangerous
as
we're
making
it.
However,
we
do
have
members
on
the
planning
board
that
are
extremely
concerned
about
it.
K
K
What's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
town
tom
planet
doesn't
have
any
constituents
he's
worried
about,
doesn't
have
you
know
anything
he's
he's
looking
at
it
very
objectively
from
what's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
town
in
the
area,
and
then
he
that
puts
a
report
together
gives
the
report
back
to
the
applicant
and
the
applicant
then
files
that
report,
along
with
everything
else,
to
the
zoning
board.
The
zoning
board
then
sits
there
and
they
have
the
town
official
expert,
giving
them
some
guidance
along
with
all
the
expert
other
experts.
I
I'm
requiring.
J
K
I
I
submitted
to
the
council-
and
I
have
extra
copies-
that
I
can
pass
out
now.
The
section
that
came
about
after.
K
K
K
C
C
I'm
the
owner
of
wind
energy
development,
I'm
the
developer
that
built
the
turbines
in
cavendry
for
west
warwick,
a
few
things
I
want
to
hit
that
were
unaccurate
tonight.
There
has
been
some
complaints
in
west
work.
There
was
a
noise
study
done
all
10
turbines
running
at
maximum
production
recovery.
Carpentry
all
10
turbines
running
in
maximum
production
at
any
property
line,
is
41
decibels.
C
I
don't
want
to
get
into
flicker
and
mrs
capwell,
I
own
the
land
all
around
it
and
only
flickers
on
my
own
property.
That's
you
know
another
issue,
a
few
things
that
I
heard
tonight
an
ordinance
that's
created
properly
for
a
town.
We
have
looked
at
your
town
in
the
entirety.
C
C
I
respect
the
solicitor
on
his
ordinance,
but
it's
technical
data.
We
can
study
your
whole
town.
There
is
no
place
in
your
town.
You
need
for
your
ordinance
right
now.
You
need
65
acres
perfectly
square,
so
I
guess
the
first
question
is:
do
you
have
65
acres
in
west
warwick
that
doesn't
have
any
residents
on
it?
The
golf.
D
C
65,
so
we
can
put
it
in
the
middle
of
the
golf
course.
Then
you
need
to
look
north
of
it
and
how
many
feet
north
of
the
turbine.
We
looked
at
your
entire
town
three
years
ago
and
there
is
no
really
place
except
the
industrial
pack.
So
if
you're
just
looking
for
a
way
not
to
build
turbines
in
your
town,
you
should
put
a
ordinance
in
maybe
like
east
greenwich,
says
and
says:
if
you're
not
powering
your
own
facility,
it
can't
go
in
every
turbine
in
rhode
island.
C
Portsmouth
new
turbine
up
other
turbine
had
problems,
not
one
complaint
in
the
town
of
portsmouth
no
fall
zone,
blade
distance,
the
same
as
carving
trees
turbines,
north
kingstown
turbines
closest
house
600
feet,
not
one
complaint
in
north
kingstown,
there's
letters
from
the
building
department
for
fall
zones
flicker
in
noise
and
carpentry.
There
has
not
been
if
there
was
flicker
and
noise.
There's
a
small
group
that
does
not
like
what
you
see.
If
you
don't
like
what
you
see,
you
don't
have
it.
C
The
technical
data
in
this
ordinance-
you
might
as
well
just
say
no,
we
don't
want
anything
left.
We
would
model
your
whole
town
for
you,
which
we
already
did
and
show
that
there
is
no
locations
in
your
town,
but
one
and
as
you
move
it
in
the
industrial
park,
the
state
has
already
allowed
the
turbines
not
to
have
a
setback
on
state
roads
and
there's
multiple
projects
that
are
being
built
like
that
right
now.
This
ordinance
is
contradicting
what
the
taxpayers
and
everybody
in
this
town
voted
for.
C
You
stood
up
in
your
leader
in
wind.
You
went
out
you
bought
turbines
in
coventry
that
this
ordinance
would
not
allow
those
turbines
to
be
built.
I
agree
on
proper
engineering.
I
agree
on
proper
testimony.
I
agree
on
proper
noise
studies
and
I
agree
that
a
consultant.
That
knows
when
should
write
your
ordinance.
C
It's
a
very
technical,
technical
approach.
We
can
talk
all
night
about
the
ordinance.
I
think
more
needs
to
be
looked
at
it
we
would
be
offering.
We
would
give
you
some
consultants
that
could
look
at
the
whole
town
I
studied
all
of
when
socket
central
falls.
All
right.
There's
a
one
location
in
probably
every
town
most
towns
don't
have
it.
Westwork
does
not
have
locations,
except
for
the
industrial
pop-up
off
of
95..
C
I
think
a
lot
more
needs
to
be
put
in
the
ordinance
if
you
want
to
extend
the
moratorium,
extend
the
moratorium,
but
just
to
approve
something
that
totally
contradicts
what
we
worked
with
the
council
and
the
ex
the
old
town
manager
and
everybody
in
carpentry
in
the
education
to
pass
this
ordinance
it.
I
just
you,
know,
you're
the
leader
in
one
point
I
think,
there's
better
ways
to
do
what
you're
trying
to
achieve
and
hannah
can
talk
a
little
bit
in
detail
on
the
ordinance.
A
Responsible,
yes,
ma'am.
Thank.
A
F
So,
first
of
all,
I
don't.
I
don't
necessarily
think
it's
contradictory.
Yes,
we
did
put
turbines
in
carpentry,
but
we
also
have
to
look
out
for
the
well-being
of
the
taxpayer.
F
So
you
mentioned
a
clause
that
powers
the
owners
and,
and
what
should
be
understood,
is
you
know
if
this
was
a
situation
like
say
you're
in
the
commercial
park,
and
you
have
a
building
and
you
want
to
put
a
turbine
in
or
a
wind
tower
that
would
function
as
powering
your
building.
You
don't
need
a
415
foot
tower
new
england
tech
runs
on
on
a
small
156
foot
turbine
and
they've
done
fine
with
it.
F
C
C
C
We
want
to
be
technical
and
exact
and
precise,
and
that's
why
I'm
not
there's
a
lot
of
ordinances
that
we
sit
and
we
adapt
to
and
we
work
with,
and
we
are
sitting
in
on
the
stakeholders
meetings
at
the
state
to
look
at
how
you
need
the
site
and
how
these
this
has
to
happen.
Because
of
this
exact
reason,
but
we
have
to
be
technical,
you
need
to
really
know
the
actual
facts
of
everything
the
west
warwick.
C
You
need
64
acres
to
build
a
turbine
that
is
financiable
that
will
put
to
produce
3
to
3.5
million
kilowatt
hours
a
year.
All
right
there
is
there's
no
place
that
has
64
acres.
If
you
use
your
setback
zone
right
now,
ian
keep
in
mind.
It's
almost
going
to
be
perfectly
square,
because
if
you
take
the
turbine
that
is
418
feet,
north
kingstown,
it's
not
52.
but
418
feet.
You
need
to
go
836
feet,
one
way
and
836
feet
the
other
way,
and
you
look
at
that.
C
You'll
get
to
your
66
to
and
the
the
draft
that
you
have
right
on
in
front
of
you
now
is
close
to
90
acres
per
travel.
All
right
noise
on
you,
you
need
to
look
at
a
decibel
level.
You
cannot
assign
a
decibel
level
different
than
the
town
ordinance.
So
if
you
want
50
decibels
at
the
property
line,
then
everything
needs
to
be
50
decibels
right
and
if
we
exceed
the
50
decibels.
C
But
I
can't
look
at
an
ordinance
that
has
no
technical
data.
So
when
your
solicitor
sits
here
and
tells
me,
I
need
to
bring
professionals
in,
I
would
like
to
know
where
the
solicitor
is
getting
his
professional
opinion
for
the
to
write
the
ordinance
that
understands
it.
Have
they
been
to
the
wind
farm
on
the
north
sea.
That
gives
all
turn
off
certification
on
every
turbine
in
the
world.
C
C
C
I
would
like
to
see
the
town
the
the
there
is
one
site,
I'm
the
only
developer.
We
all
know
that
there
is
no
more
wind
developers
in
the
state.
I
would
like
to
see
the
town,
and
I
would
would
give
a
layout
with
that
ordinance,
and
the
first
thing
I
would
remove
would
be
all
the
the
stuff,
the
faa,
so
there's
one
faa
approval
in
west
warwick,
very
unlikely
you're
getting
another
one
for
your
height.
Then
look
at
your
setbacks
and
I
think,
by
the
time
I
was
done.
C
You
might
as
well
just
come
out
and
say
we
can't
build
them
in
our
town
because
there's
not
enough
room
and
you
don't
need
an
ordinance
all
right.
So
there's
ways
to
get
to
where
you
need,
but
for
you
to
come
out
and
put
this
ordinance
on
the
books,
it's
it's
it's.
I
would
be
embarrassed
and
it's
not
what
your
your
rate
pay
is,
and
the
people
that
put
you
in
office
voted
on
three
years
ago,
put
a
vote
out
and
asked
how
they
feel
about
winter
majority.
F
C
C
All
right
uri
did
a
study,
a
major
study
and
removed
north
kingstown
because
it
actually
showed
the
subdivision
that
I
live
in
that
if
you
live
under
a
turbine,
your
property
value
is
higher,
so
they
removed
it
and
they
did
a
study
at
uri
that
looked
at
property
value.
So
that's
the
first
thing
you
really
need
to
look
at.
Is
there
true
information
on
property
values
if
it's
going
to
hurt?
C
Second,
is
noise
95?
The
decibel
level
in
that
neighborhood
is
over
75
80
decibels.
Ambient
noise
you'll
never
hear
the
turbine
if
the
turbine
exceeds
the
decibel
level
in
the
town
ordinance
at
65
at
the
property
line,
you
shut
it
off
my
bank's
not
going
to
finance
me.
If
I
exceed
that,
if
you
want
it
to
be
50
decibels,
then
the
whole
town
needs
to
be
50
decibels.
C
All
right.
You
cannot
look
and
the
state,
citing
guidelines
specifically
said
you
need
to
look
at
that
section,
because
the
lawyers
at
the
state
said
it
was
illegal
to
change
an
ordinance
noise
ordinance
for
an
individual
use.
So
we
need
to
be
consistent.
That's
factual
information
to
understand
how
many
turbines,
when
I
sit
in
front
of
a
zoning
board,
and
the
zoning
board
asks
series
their
questions.
I'd
be
embarrassed
to
sit
on
that
committee.
C
You
want
to
be
technical,
you
want
to
be
exact
and
you
want
to
be
precise
to
deliver
the
right
ordinance
for
the
top,
and
this
isn't
the
right
ordinance.
If
you
want
to
pass
it
tonight,
it
is
what
it
is,
but
I
will
assure
you
that
there's
no
place
that
there's
one
location
that
we're
all
here
talking
about
tonight
and
it's
westwork,
and
if
the
council
and
the
town
does
not
want
it,
then
they
should
sit
down
and
look
it
away
just
to
eliminate
it.
C
K
N
I
think
so
my
name
is
hannah
marini.
I
actually
do
most
of
the
early
due
diligence
I
work
for
mark.
I
do
most
of
the
early
due
diligence
on
our
on
our
wind
turbine
applications
and
we
do.
We
do
absolutely
welcome
the
third
party
professionals
to
come
testify
that
the
projects
and
the
work
we've
done
is
is
correct.
That's
absolutely
welcome.
I'm
not
gonna
go
through
this
line
by
line.
N
There's
definitely
a
lot
of
issues
with
it,
but
you
know,
as
mark
stated
they're
under
no
circumstances
will
there
be
any
wind
developed
in
the
town
of
westwork
if
this
ordinance
passes
it
just
there
just
won't-
and
I
worked
on
both
of
the
I've
worked
on
both
of
the
projects
that
were
in
warwick
the
shorter
turbines
they
produce
about
a
hundred
thousand
kilowatt
hours
a
year
total
and
west
warwick
is,
is
in
a
valley.
N
That's
you're,
not
even
going
to
get
that
the
same
turbine
down
in
narragansett
produces
300
thousand
kilowatt
hours,
but
inland
you're
not
going
to
get
that.
No,
and
no
one,
no
one
in
state
or
out
of
state,
is
building
hundred
kilowatt
turbines
in
the
state
of
rhode
island.
The
there
is
no
financial
program
to
support
it.
There's
no
incentives
for
it.
No
one
is
pursuing
that.
So
I
wanted
to
just
there's
one
thing
in
here
that
I
think
is
really
important
since
we're
talking
about
setbacks
and
we're
talking
about
shadow
flicker.
N
N
No,
this
is
never
going
to
work
there,
there's
neighbors
around
you
that
are
going
to
get
shadow
flicker,
and
this
won't
work
and
the
first
time
I
actually
the
very
first
time
I
had
that
instinct
and
said
absolutely
not
was
about
six
years
ago,
when
I
worked
for
the
rhode
island
commerce
corporation
actually
was
before
that
there's
west
warwick
has
been
trying
to
put
renewable
energy
in
this
town
for
a
very,
very
long
time.
N
The
first
job
I
worked
for
when
I
was
putting
up
those
hundred
kilowatt
turbines,
my
boss
said:
hey,
there's,
there's
a
town
of
west
warwick
and
they
want
you
to
look
at
a
turbine
at
their
high
school.
I
looked
at
it
and
said
absolutely
not.
This
is
a
terrible
location
for
wind.
There's
people
all
around
it.
Absolutely
not
don't
even
spend
another
minute
on
it,
so
we
can
look
very
quickly
and
see
where
there's
going
to
be
impacts.
N
I
actually
didn't
see-
and
I
was
surprised
I
didn't
see
any
value
in
this
ordinance
around
what
the
acceptable
levels
of
shadow
flicker
are.
There
are
internationally
accepted
standards,
no
more
than
10
to
30
hours
per
year.
That's
the
range
on
a
receptor,
no
more
than
30
minutes
a
day.
This
ordinance
just
says
something
like
you
need
to.
You
know,
make
sure
you're
not
do
you
know
burdening
people
or
something
like
that-
that's
impossible
for
us
to
follow.
This
is
a
it's
a
value,
that's
predictable!
That
we
can.
N
We
can
measure
for
and
what's
in
here,
is
not
something
that
we
can
measure
for
at
all,
so
really
the
the
no
matter.
What
you
put
the
step
back
at
the
reason,
the
the
effective
setback
is
always
going
to
be
shadow
flicker.
So
even
if
you
200,
I
mean
200,
there's
never
going
to
be
wind
in
this
town.
N
Not
a
single
turbine
will
ever
go
here,
but
if
you
said
even
if
you
said
one
times
the
fall
zone
for
step
back,
if
you
have
no
more
than
30
hours
per
year,
shadow
flicker
on
someone's
house
and
there's
neighbors
around
you're
still
going
to
be
a
thousand
feet
away,
probably
to
meet
the
flicker
setback.
So
that's
a
very
important
value
in
here
to
define
much
more
important
than
this.
The
arbitrary
200
setback
that's
in
there
right
now.
N
So
again,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
it
line
by
line
from
a
technical
standpoint,
but
there's
there's
major
issues
with
it
that
it's
just
there
won't
be
any
wind
here.
I
promise
you
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
A
A
The
name
of
janice
piscino
she's,
a
constituent
of
mine,
she's,
been
on
this
board
for
many
years.
She
does
a
fine
job
angelo.
I
think
you've
worked
with
it
numerous
times,
so
I'd
like
to
move
the
name
of
janice
fischino
I'll.
K
B
Let's
resolve
this
account
council
hereby
appoints
the
following
individual
to
serve
as
a
member
of
the
arctic
redevelopment
commission
board
for
the
town,
west
ward
for
the
term
to
expire,
10,
122.
I
D
Bring
the
name
of
robert
boyer
bobby's
been
on
there
a
lot
with
his
expertise
with
surveying
and
everything
he's
a
good
pick
there,
and
I'm
just
glad
that
he
wants
to
get
reappointed.
So
I'll
move
the
name
of
bob
boyer.
A
This
is
a
four
year
term,
correct,
yeah,
four
years,
four.
D
A
I
A
So
the
way
we
did
it
was
the
five-year
term
which
hasn't
come
up
yet.
So
whoever
was
the
one-year
term
which
I
think
was
jim
marsh-
is
the
president
correct.
M
A
I
Isn't
it
where
you
can
only
be
the
president
for
so
many
years.
I
D
D
A
Second,
discussion.
D
A
Just
send
him
a
thank
you
letter
for
his
service.
I
know
he's
been
a
little
over
almost
about
three
years
now,
so,
okay,
all
in
favor
aye,
opposed.
A
Mark,
I
I
know
and
john
we
have
a
contract
with
prism.
I
was
reviewing
some
of
that
contract
and
we
just
need
to
get,
and
I
know-
and
I
don't
think
it's
their
fault-
I
think
a
little
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
national
grid.
We,
we
obviously
took
all
the
lights
from
national
grid
and
we
put
the
led
lights
in
now
whenever
they
need
to
do
something
they
need
national
grid's
approval
and
national
grid's.
A
At
that
point,
we
as
a
town
may
have
to
get
with
the
other
towns
and
get
with
the
puc
and
see
what's
going
on
there,
because,
if
they're
stalling
and
to
make
prism,
look
bad,
then
you
know
that's
a
major
issue:
they're
interfering
with
their
business
and
interfering
with
the
safety
and
welfare
of
every
city
in
town
that
needs
lights
or
light
bulbs
or
whatever,
and
it
needs
to
be
replacement
or
new
light
replaced.
A
Bit
of
everything,
according
to
joe
argentine
joe
argenta,
does
a
very
good
job
with
staying
on
top
of
them,
and
I
I
talk
to
him
via
email
at
five
in
the
morning
sometimes,
and
he
and
I
are
going
back
and
forth
and
he's
here
and
he's
he's
making
sure
every
day
he's
on
top
or
at
least
weekly,
following
up
with
prism
and
whoever
else
and
and
we're
always
cc'd
on
it.
It's
just
that.
I
So
has
there
been
an
issue
as
far
as
like
the
dimming
lights
does
not
either
approval
right?
Now
we're
not
fully
done.
A
Up
they
could
do
it
by
hand,
but
they
can't
do
it
by
software,
which
remote
like.
I
Can't
do
anything
with
the
computer
because
I
feel
like
we
had
an
issue
on.
We
talked
about
on
pulaski
street
and
I
thought
that
they
did
do
it
through
the
computer.
Didn't
they.
L
A
The
lights
for
connections
right
now
we
have
240
telephone
poles
that
are
being
played
replaced
in
west
wall,
as
you
can
see
all
down
main
street,
and
it's
all
because
they're
moving
the
substation
off
guard
avenue
and
moving
over
into
where's
that
going
over
to
what
four
isn't
it
four
or
five.
So
they
need
higher
poles
for
the.
For
that
and
what's
happening
is
they're
taking
the
light
down
and
just
either
taping
it
to
the
pole
and
not
even
telling
anybody
they're
taking.
I
A
So
joe
argenti
sees
it
down,
he
calls
prism
prism
gets
it
up,
but
sometimes
they
can't
put
it
up
until
electric
power's
transferred
over
then
you
know
the
proper
grounds
are
installed
in
the
ground,
so
they
can't
do
that
and
it's
just
been
a
nightmare
for
them.
Also,
so
they've
been
postponing
on
doing
any
more
light
installed
until
all
poles
have
been
transferred,
which
rightfully
so
I
mean
240.
Poles
is
a
lot
of
pulse
throughout
the
town.
E
We
have
a
general
site
plan.
I've
been
working
with
with
dave
lombari
on
this,
and
I
brought
actually
to
mark's
attention
as
being
an
issue
back
in
last
year,
when
I,
when
I
was
walking
the
ward,
when
you
come
out
of
manchester
street
and
you're
heading
on
to
pulaski,
you
come
to
a
stop
sign.
Then
you
have
to
go
roughly
10
or
12
feet
creep
forward.
E
So
you
can
see,
what's
coming
out
of
pulaski
street
from
the
left-hand
side
coming
from
west
welcome
to
carpentry
it's
a
dangerous
intersection,
so
the
plan
is-
and
this
was
is
with
all
cdbg
money
to
come
out
of
manchester
into
a
straight
line
and
make
it
a
90
degree
intersection
like
a
normal
intersection.
E
There
is
a
stop
sign,
that's
already
there,
so
we're
not
adding
another.
Stop
sign
we're
just
moving
that
to
the
right
when
you're
coming
straight
now
for
the
at
the
intersection
to
the
right
hand,
side
where
that
that
that
corner
is
there'll,
be
sidewalk
there
and
most
likely
an
adopter
spot
with
a
grassy
area.
So
it's
going
to
look
nice.
I
think
it's
going
to
again
add
to
the
area
and
and
create
a
safer
passageway
at
that
point.
So
most
likely
this
will
be
done.
E
I
Have
to
agree
with
jason
driving
down
that
road,
which
I
do
every
day
it's
it's
like
awful,
especially
driving
my
daughter
learning
how
to
drive,
and
I
have
to
tell
like
yeah,
you
have
the
right
away,
but
you
need
to
you
need
to
slow
down,
because
people
just
come
cruising
out
of
there.
They
don't
even
stop
or
even
when
they
do
stop.
They
stop
at
the
stop
sign,
and
you
know
they're
actually
following
the
yeah
they're
following
the
rules
of
the
road,
but
it's
it's
so
far
out.
It's
awful!
A
A
E
House
is
more,
I
think
the
house
is
the
issue
which
and
it's
it's
vacant,
but
obviously
we're
not
going
to
tear
down
the
house.
So
this
is
a
the
cheapest
way
out
and
I
I
really
think
it's
going
to
look
good
so.
D
Yes,
I
put
this
on
the
agenda
for
the
council
to
support
putting
this
solicitor's
job
up
for
bid
and
also,
I
would
like
that
it
wouldn't
be
hourly
that
we
would
put
it
up
for
bid
salary.
D
Like
say
you
used
70,
hypothetically,
seventy
thousand
dollars
for
the
year,
because
we've
been
going
over
our
budget,
probably
three
times
more
than
what
we
planned
on,
and
I
just
think
that
we
should
go
out.
It
hasn't
been
out
with
all
the
controversy.
D
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
put
it
out,
and
this
way
here
we
know
what
our
budget
is.
If,
god
forbid,
you
have
a
tragedy
like
the
station
fire
or
carullo
again,
that
would
also
be
brought
out
to
bed.
D
Yeah
not
mark,
though
I
want
to
talk
about
mark
just
in
case
you
don't
plan
on
suing
us
right
now,.
D
A
So
mark-
and
I
I
brought
this
up
last
council
meeting
and
I
had
brief
conversation
without
a
solicitor
now
as
a
retainer
and
the
retainer
would
be
negotiated.
A
Obviously
so,
as
we
said
in
the
very
beginning,
and
it
kind
of
set
off
a
red
light
in
my
eyes
was
we
don't
have
to
go
off
the
bid
for
professional
services,
but
I
agree
with
mark
wholeheartedly
that
a
retainer
is
where
we
need
to
be
so
I
I
would
like
our
town
manager
to
talk
to
other
cities
and
towns,
which
I
think
he
already
has
and
discuss
a
retainer
and
possibly
going
into
that
now
a
retainer
would
be
for
the
basic
business.
A
Now,
if
there's
other
lawsuits
and
whatever
else
what
I've
seen
from
what
mark
has
explained
to
me
also
is:
there's
a
retainer.
Basically
will
do
council
meetings
questions
calls
all
that
good
stuff
article
reading
internet
research,
all
that
would
be
covered,
so
that
would
avoid
monthly
billing
in
all
general
purposes.
A
Now
this
probably
should
have
been
done
years
ago
now.
Also,
what
mark
threw
in
there
was
that
the
cases
of
the
lawsuits
that
we
get
per
year
is
usually
done
by
the
solicitor
also,
so
I
sat
down
and
went
through
we're
averaging
15
to
20
cases
a
year
of
legal
matters,
so
you're
going
to
take
the
hours
at
that
aspect
also
and
see
whatever
the
hourly
rate
is
for
those
at
those
items.
So
my
question
would
be
the
retainer
would
be
one
price.
A
D
The
solicitor
would
do
different
things,
but
over
here
it's
like
cod
blanc,
the
door's
wide
open
for
whatever
without
getting
into
different
things,
but
I
can
if
I
have
to,
but
I
think
it
should
go
out
a
bit.
I
know
he
sits
at
the
pleasure
of
the
council.
D
It
should
go
out
for
bid,
we
should
see
and
the
hourly
if,
if
something
came
up
if
mark
sued
us
seeing
carullo
is
your
last
name.
If
mark
sued
us
that
would
also
go
out
to
bed,
the
solicitor
could
make
a
presence
at
the
courts
till
it
went
out
to
bid
so
maybe
john's
an
attorney
as
an
attorney.
You
don't
pay
by
the
hour.
How
much
do
you
want
to
represent
this
case
and
you
go
from
there
so.
A
A
A
I
I
just
said
I
think
personally,
we
should
take
a
retainer
and
and
have
that
discussion
with
our
existing
solicitor.
Now,
if
we
feel
the
retainer's
too
high
or
whatever
it
may
be,
then
we
go
outside
why?
Why
is
everybody
afraid
to
put
it
out
to
bid
I'm
not
afraid
to
put
out
the
bid?
I'm
saying
I'm
happy
with
my
solicitor.
A
I
will
say
it
personally
and
and
and
I
and
I
and
trust
me
I
had
my
he
could
tell
you
right
now:
I've
called
him
numerous
times
to
get
your
bills
in
and
get
him
here,
and
this
is
before
this
even
started.
Okay,
but
you
know
when
I
know
the
history
this
man
has
gone
through
in
the
last
four
since
2012,
but
the
last
four
years
have
been
very
horrific
for
this
man
here.
A
Okay,
the
loss
of
his
brother
was
one
that
would
put
anybody
behind.
Okay,
two,
the
loss
of
his
firm
moving
from
coventry
to
warwick
would
put
anybody
behind
then,
when
he
moves
into
that
firm.
The
loss
of
an
associate
would
put
anybody
behind
on
that
building.
He's
never
said
that
to
me.
Okay,
I'm
saying
my
personal
reasons.
I
understand
all
that.
D
D
D
I
A
D
A
D
F
Can
I
state
my
opinion,
so
I
I
wanted
to
take
the
time
to
actually
like
write
out
an
opinion,
because
this
is
important
and
it
has
been
so
much
discussion
not
only
on
facebook,
but
in
the
council
chamber
you
know,
so
I
wanted
to
approach
this
and
talk
to
people
and
meet
with
people
and
hear
what
their
opinions
were,
because,
ultimately
I
have
to
make
a
judgment
on
this
and
so
prior
to
being
a
council
member.
I
sat
in
the
audience
for
probably
six
years
and
from
the
audience.
F
F
I
think
that
you
know
when
you
go
out
to
bid
that
opens
you
up
to
possibly
lowest
bid,
which
isn't
always
smart
business.
You
know
he
comes
with
institutional
knowledge
that
goes
back
sometime.
However,
I
I
do
have
certain
stipulations
that
I
would
like
to
put
forward
that
I
think
in
talking
to
different
people
and
thinking
and
processing
this.
First
of
all,
you
know
invoices
have
to
be
timely.
F
These
things
should
be
in
place
and,
and
they
should,
you
know,
the
agreement
should
be
met.
We
can
certainly
be
understanding
to
situations
that
have
occurred,
but
going
forward.
F
You
know
everything
has
to
be
on
time
and
somebody
needs
to
take
the
time
to
thoroughly
go
through
the
invoices
that
are
being
submitted,
and
I
think
we
need
a
contract
in
place.
E
I
I
agree
with
with
john
in
a
few
points
and
again
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
this
as
well.
E
I
don't
know
no
offense,
I
don't
know
tim
since
you
know
before
the
election
really,
but
I
I
ran
on
on
change
as
an
independent
and
I
think
it'd
be
a
little
hypocritical
if,
since
everything
all
this
controversy
came
up-
and
I
don't
know
all
the
history
but
and
I'm
not
saying
get
rid
of-
I
don't
like
that
term
at
all,
because
I
don't
consider
that.
E
But
I
think
at
this
point
it
doesn't
hurt
to
go
out
to
bid
with
with
the
conditions
that
we
set
in
that
bid,
and
I
agree
with
angelo
to
a
point
some
of
it.
I
don't
again
same
thing
with
john.
I
think
we
really
need
to
sit
and
put
something
together
and
I
think
we
need
to
limit
if
we're
going
to
make
a
contract,
it
should
be
for
a
certain
amount
of
time.
E
Just
like
us
we're
here
for
two
and
four
years,
I'm
not
going
to
spend
the
rest
of
my
life
on
the
council.
I
don't
want
to
be
80
years
old
on
the
council,
so
I
think
we
need
to
sit
a
term
limit
for
this
and
if
things
are
going
well,
we
renew
the
contract.
If
it's
not,
we
go
out
to
bid
again.
A
I
I
agree
that
there
should
be
a
contract.
I
think
that
they
definitely
should.
You
know
the
late
billing,
which
I
know
we've
talked
about.
I
mean
you've
talked
about
that
a
few
times
in
the
last
couple
of
months,
but
I
think
that
eliminates
the
late
billing,
if
we
have
them
on
a
retainer
or
you
know
a
set
pay.
The
question
I
would
ask
is
how
how
long
would
you
have
to
to
set
the
payments
for
well
if
there
was
a
lawsuit?
How
long
would
there
be
a
time
schedule
for
that
one?
A
You
all
got
elected.
Do
your
own
assessment
now,
if
you
feel
he's
not
doing
his
job,
if
you
feel
that
you
want
a
new
solicitor,
then
put
it
out
to
bid,
but
I
think
we
could
work
with
the
existing
solicitor
with
mark.
Let
them
negotiate
a
retainer,
and
at
that
point,
if
we're
not
happy
with
the
retainer
and
we
we
think
we
can
do
better.
A
Why
think?
Why
think,
because
why
not
just
put
it
out
because
angela,
we
have
94
open
cases
right
now?
How
much
more
do
you
want
me
to
share?
We
have
94
open
cases.
We
get
a
new
solicitor
in
here.
What
do
you
think
they're
going
to
charge
us
for
those
94
cases
and
we're
not
talking
94
cases
in
one
year,
we're
talking
in
in
20
years
time,
94
cases
that
are
pending
right
now.
I
What
I'd
ask
is:
is
this
the
right
time
to
do
something
that
we're
just
about
to
have
a
new
temple?
Yes,
we're
about
to
have
a
new
town
manager
come
in
here
at
about
four
weeks,
we're
looking
for
a
new
tax
assessor,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things
going
on
here
right
now.
Is
this
the
time
to
make
the
change
is.
I
D
D
I
D
D
D
D
H
H
Alan
palazzo
five
robin
lane
westward-
and
I
have
some
questions
we're
currently
in
the
fourth
year
of
the
five
year
plan.
Correct
okay-
and
you
may
not
know
this-
mr
carula
may
have
it
at
his
fingertips.
I'm
not
sure
what
was
the
budget
for
the
first
year
of
the
five-year
plan
for
the
town
solicitor?
H
A
J
L
Tim
can
I
can.
I
just
comment.
Please
there's
a
line
item
called
legal
services
and
the
legal
services
consists
of
at
least
four
solicitors.
I
understand
you
know.
The
major
solution,
obviously,
is
the
town
solicitor.
We
have
planning
and
zoning
and
we
currently
have,
I
believe,
too,
related
to
human
resources.
So
there
are
four
solicitors.
J
I
want
to
respond
to
the
administrative
lineup.
That's
what
mr
palazzo's
answer
is
as
it
concerns
my
office
2012,
the
administrative
line
item
for
administrative
125,
000
2013,
125,
000,
2014,
125,
000
2015,
two
hundred
sixteen
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
a
total
of
six
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
right.
H
J
Answering
him,
I'm
telling
you
what
I
made,
so
you
can
compare
it
to
your
own
notes.
Now,
for
the
last
five
years,
2012
147
000,
2013,
146,
000,
2014,
149,
000,
2015,
141,
000,
2016,
100
thousand
I'm
over
budget
in
five
years
by
nine
thousand
four
hundred
and
ninety
six
dollars
and
remember.
I
have
no
control
of
the
amount
of
litigation
that
gets
filed
in
this
town.
I
get
no
have
no
control
about
what
happens
when
this
town
council
gets
sued.
J
I
have
no
control
about
the
number
of
cases
now,
if
all
the
controversies
about
my
late
billing,
I
admit
my
billing
was
late.
I'm
sorry,
however,
on
the
merits
you
tell
me
where
you're
going
to
get
a
solicitor
in
the
state
of
rhode
island,
because
this
is
the
lowest
paying
job
for
town
solicitors
in
this
state.
But
you
don't
know
that
because
you
don't
care
about
that,
but
the
bottom
line
is:
if
you
think
that
the
town
solicitor's
office
is
responsible
for
a
seven
million
dollar
deficit
or
a
million
dollar
deficit
come
on.
J
J
I'm
the
only
town
department
head
that
does
not
provide
a
budget
to
the
town
manager
north
of
the
town
council,
regardless
of
what
the
expenditures
were
the
year
before.
I
have
no
say
in
that
whatsoever:
they
put
a
budget
together,
that's
it.
I
submit
my
bills
if
they're
not
good
bills,
if
they're
bad
bills,
their
questions,
they
can
be
at,
they
can
be
asked
and
they
can
be
answered.
I've
served
for
nine
separate
councils.
J
I've
set
for
four
different
managers,
four
different
interim
managers.
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
department
heads
not
one
time
have
my
bills
ever
been
questioned?
Have
they
been
late?
Yes,
they've
been
late,
but
let
me
tell
you,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
if
I
don't
submit
a
bill,
I
don't
get
paid
and
as
far
as
running
up
expenses,
all
right,
the
money
is
budgeted.
John
you've
told
me
before:
if
something
doesn't
get
paid
in
fy
12,
it
carries
over
to
13
because
you
have
to
close
the
books
and
you
do
that
in
accounting.
J
But
the
problem
I'm
trying
to
get
at
is
all
this
so-called
controversy
about
the
solicitor.
If
you
think
that
I'm
the
person
that
put
this
down
in
deficit
come
on,
look
at
yourselves,
the
bottom
line
is
this
is
personal.
It
is
political
and
that's
it.
I've
said
my
piece:
the
bottom
line
is:
have
I
been
over
budgeted
for
the
last
five
years,
I'll.
J
D
When
they
turn
you
into
the
ethics
company
ethics
commission
for
nonsense-
and
I
was
already
warned
by
the
council
president-
that
if
I
didn't
lay
off
on
the
solicitor's.
A
A
D
D
D
D
H
It
says:
yes,
it's
not
going
to
happen
again.
Mr
goslin,
I
wrote
you
a
letter
in
february
of
2010
that
addressed
that
particular
issue,
and
I
was
assured
that
that
would
not
happen
again
and
the
only
reason
I'm
impact
engaged
here
is
that
seven
years
later,
that
is
reoccurring
and
that's
my
point,
mr
palazzo
and
I
think.
A
I
answered
the
reasons
why
and
I
think
they're
legitimate
reasons
why
and
that's
and
I've
never
ever
shared
that
with
anybody.
Okay-
and
god
forbid,
you
know
damn
well
if
it
was
something
that
happened
to
your
family,
like
that,
and
you
had
a
business
at
one
point
I
didn't
know
if
he
wanted
to
be
town
solicitor
anymore.
I
want
to
be
honest
with
you,
because
I
saw
this
man
change
over
the
last
three
years.
Mr.
H
H
A
A
A
I
asked
him-
and
he
explained
to
me-
and
he
showed
me
a
newspaper
article
that
somebody
came
in,
went
to
court
and
said
the
newspaper
said
this
and
you
know
what
he
had
that
newspaper
article
and
said
they
were
not
right.
They
were
wrong.
Here's
the
information
because
we
all
know-
and
no-
and
this
wasn't
kendra
lolo
back
there,
but
it
definitely
we've
seen
articles
in
the
past
be
total
missing
information.
We've
seen
facebook
with
total
misinformation.
A
Use
that
in
court
now
and
unfortunately
now
he's
a
little
more
old-fashioned,
you
don't
see
internet
research,
you
see
newspaper
research
on
his
bills.
It
is
an
old-school
way
of
billing
and
you
know
what
I
I
asked.
I
went
through
all
the
bills
that
I've
seen,
and
I
said
you
know
why
is
this.
Why
is
that?
Because,
prior
to
that,
none
of
this
council
from
2006,
I
could
tell
you-
I've,
never
seen
a
solicitor's
bills.
It's
always
gone
to
the
town
manager.
A
D
H
H
A
Just
my
opinion,
prior
to
may,
the
average
council
meeting
was
an
hour
to
an
hour
and
a
half
and
very
very
little
legal
matters.
After
may,
okay,
we're
now
spending
three
four
five
hours
here
and
everybody's
coming
up
here,
saying:
they're
suing
the
town.
Okay,
we
had
a
gentleman
in
a
wheelchair,
we
had
situations
with
land.
We
had
so
many
different
things
going
on.
H
My
point
is,
you
know:
I
have
often
seen
at
this
meeting
conversations
between
members
of
the
council
and
the
solicitor.
I
don't
ask,
I
don't
see
written
opinions
because
written
opinions
are
public
records.
If
it's
verbal
between
the
counselors
and
the
solicitor,
who
knows,
I
can't
request
that
look
at
the
microphone
I
mean
hands
down.
H
H
Okay,
maybe
mr
williamson
will
be
the
best
okay.
My
question
to
you
is:
why
not
put
it
out
the
time
for
second
chances?
Third
chances
are
over
and
done
with.
I
have
stood
before
this
council,
or
should
I
say
your
predecessors
and
asked
who
authorized
the
solicitor
sitting
there
to
go
out
and
request
transcripts
of
a
private
deposition
that
did
not
involve
the
town
of
west
warwick
and
then
charged
the
town?
How
many
years
ago
that
was
about
15.,
you
weren't
here,
I'm
saying
that,
but
this
is
something
that
occurred.
H
That
is
one
instance
that
I
personally
know
of
how
many
others
are
out
there.
I'm
going
to
put
a
rhetorical
question
out
there,
how
many
of
you
have
had
professional
relationships
with
the
solicitor?
And
I
that's
a
rhetorical
question.
I
don't
know
the
answer,
but
my
point
is:
did
any
of
you
or
the
solicitor
request
an
opinion
from
the
ethics
commission?
H
I
know
for
a
fact
that
when
this
town
was
sued
by
the
school
committee-
and
I
loved
your
brother
timmy,
but
there
was
no
ethics
commission
opinion
sought
by
either
mr
williamson
or
the
school
committee.
I
went
back
through
four
years
if
one
magically
appears
it's
magic,
pixie
dust
again,
but
I'm
just
saying
that
events
occur.
H
If
you
don't
do
that,
oh
let's
put
them
on
a
retainer
you're,
sending
a
message
to
everybody
out
there
watching
this
and
to
the
reporters
that
this
is
how
you
want
to
continue
to
do
business.
When
I
hear
over
and
over
again,
we
have
to
cut
expenses,
I
don't
see
it.
Mr
williamson
has
made
the
assertion,
he's
the
lowest
paid
solicitor
here.
H
M
M
You
don't
need
the
agenda
right
now.
We
need
you
to
listen.
We
need
people
that
got
elected
by
their
respective
wards
to
listen
to
the
people
in
their
wards
and,
if
you
guys
can't
do
that,
believe
me
nobody's
gonna
forget
there
is
no
excuse
for
this.
I
have
been
in
accounting
most
of
my
life.
I
have
worked
with
numerous
lawyers.
Do
not
tell
me
that
a
year
behind
for
seven
years
straight
is
a
legitimate
excuse
for
anything.
M
M
M
The
letter
to
mr
gosling
allen.
J
J
M
M
J
J
J
M
M
How
does
somebody
approve
this
is
this
is
an
invoice
that
was
received
he's
not
here
anymore.
What
do
you
want
me
to
do
march
31st
2017
billing
period
june
2016
received
on
march
31st,
approved
by
fred
presley
on
4617
for
payment?
How
in
god's
name
did
he
approve
a
a
year
passed
for
thirteen
thousand
eight
hundred
and
sixty
dollars
nobody's
that
good?
Ask?
Mr
president,.
J
C
B
M
J
I
M
A
D
Again,
this
should
have
been
done
when
I
cried
wolf
four
years
ago,
in
order
of
every
department
I
spoke
to
the
manager
about
it.
He
seemed
to
agree
that
this
is
out
of
our
control.
We
need
expert
help
here.
We
need
to
see
where
the
money's
being
spent
crazy,
but
I
guess
I'm
just
backing
up
the
wrong
tree,
but
I'm
going
to
vote
to
go
out
for
a
bid
to
do
a
complete
forensic
ordinance
audit
of
the
town
of
west
warwick
mark.
L
L
D
I
talked
to
a
few
people,
it's
50
to
75
000
for
a
townhouse
ice,
but
I
respect
your
opinion
and
we
do
have
a
finance
guy
coming
in.
But
I
just.
L
What
I
would
suggest
councilman
is:
let
us
go
through
the
budget
when
he
gets
here.
We
can
report
back
to
the
council
as
to
our
findings.
If
we
believe
that
we
need
to
proceed
in
a
greater
detail
of
an
audit
and
we'd
certainly
be
open
to
that.
If
that's
okay,
I
that's
fair
by
me.
F
I
would
just
comment
that
I
would
agree
with
the
manager
in
that,
let's
wait
for
the
new
manager.
This
could
be
extremely
costly,
so
you
know
if
he
feels
that
it's
necessary,
then
we
should
probably
move
forward
with
a
forensic
audit.
If
not,
we
don't.
D
I
just
don't
understand
how
you
want
to
cut
from
peta
and
you
give
it
to
paul.
It's
expensive,
illegal's,
expensive
audits
are
expensive,
but
you
can
justify
which
one
you
want
to
spend.
A
A
Audit
is
pretty
close
on.
If,
if
you
read
that
audit-
and
you
read
it
page
by
page-
and
you
read,
there's
a
summary
page-
that's
all
you
gotta
read
as
a
summary
page
every
single
year
and
it's
broken
down.
It
showed
deficit
year
after
year
after
year,
and
it
wasn't
because
it
was
because
collections
were
low
and
and
two
or
three
two
departments
were
overspending,
and
I
already
brought
this
up
last
council
meeting
was
you
know
the
fire
department?
A
We
cut
their
overtime
every
single
year
and
rightfully
so
we
all
agree
the
overtime's
out
of
control,
but
the
chief
stands
up
here.
The
town
manager
stands
up
here
and
says:
don't
cut
my
overtime
because
it's
this
is
what
I
spent.
This
is
what
it's
going
to
be.
This
is
where
we're
going
to
be,
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
he's
overspent
by
300
000
and
then
we're
on
his
case.
What.
D
I
want
to
know
is
who
okayed
the
money
to
be
moved
from
the
rainy
day
fund
to
plug
holes?
When
I
was
told-
and
you
were
told
that
we
have
a
surplus,
there
is
no
deficit,
it's
only
on
paper.
That's
what
I
want
to
know
and
if
I
have
to
put
in
a
complaint
myself,
I'm
going
to
get
some
legal
advice
and
if
I
put
in
the
complaint,
someone
has
to
pay
for
that
money.
A
A
Mr
patroz
came
up
to
the
microphone
last
month
and
said
it.
I
went
all
the
way
back.
I
went
meeting
by
meeting.
I
went
to
go.
Listen
I've
tried
to
spend
an
hour
looking
for
that
meeting.
I
found
that
meeting.
I
got
written
down
what
the
date
was
I'll.
Give
that
to
you.
You
can
listen
to
it.
He
says
we're
one
million
dollars
ahead
in
the
five-year
plan.
Whether
or
not
that
was
true.
I
don't
know,
but
he
did
not
say
surplus.
D
Well,
a
lot
of
the
employees
heard
that
we
have
a
one
million
dollar
surplus,
we're
all
set
with
that
we're
all
set
with
this.
We
got
that
covered.
We
got
that
covered.
Of
course
you
had
to
cover,
I
mean
who
gave
the
okay
that
they
broke
the
charter
of
taking
money
out
of
the
rainy
day
fund.
I
told
you
I
want
to
know
where
it
went
and
who
authorized.
A
Angelo,
I
can,
I
said
this
last
month
two
weeks
ago
here
is
in
in
here
we
authorized
the
13
things,
which
was
1.3
million
dollars,
that
we
authorized
as
a
council
to
move
okay,
but
I
want
to
also
bring
up
something
else
that
I
sat
here
and
I
thought
about
last
week
afterwards
after
a
budget
was
passed
last
year
and
councilman
giroux
sat
here
and
advocated
for
the
seniors,
and
we
all
agreed
that
we
would
give
a
ten
thousand
dollar
off
the
valley
exemption,
so
it
would
be
a
flat
rate.
A
You
know,
it'll
adjust
with
the
tax
increases,
so
are
the
appraisals
we
took
over
almost
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
out
of
an
existing
budget
and
we
didn't
plug
anything
in.
Where
does
everybody
think
that
money
was
going
to
come
from?
That's
the
part,
I
don't
understand.
I
remember
sitting
here
saying,
and
we
were
talking
about
doing
it
for
veterans
too,
and
we
said
we
can't
do
it
all
at
once.
A
D
D
A
D
A
A
E
What
I
said
is
show
me
that,
and
it's
been
quoted
several
times
and
I
want
to
take
claim
for
the
quote:
we
had
a
bare
bones
budget
in
regards
to
employees
and
equipment
so,
and
everything
else
was
contractual
that
we
unfortunately
we
couldn't
touch.
I
B
L
I
guess
I'll
say
something
because
I'm
putting
putting
this
off
the
last
couple
of
council
meetings,
because
they've
been
running
late,
but
with
regard
to
the
car
tax
about
a
month
or
so
ago,
rose
was
in
contact
with
vision
and
they
provided
several
options.
L
Three
options
to
be
precise
with
regard
to
how
we
can
reconcile
the
car
tax
because,
as
you
know,
the
town
had
to
send
out
its
tax
bills
because
we
needed
the
revenue
coming
in
and
after
the
tax
bills
went
out,
the
general
assembly
approved
the
the
reduction
in
the
car
tax.
So
basically,
there
were
three
scenarios
that
were
presented.
The
first
scenario
was
to
not
issue
a
rebate
this
year
and
to
just
issue
a
credit
for
next
year.
That
is
not
an
option.
L
According
to
the
state
department
of
finance
issued
a
statement
I
think
about
a
week
or
so
ago
saying
that
the
the
legend
that
was
not
the
intent
of
the
legislature
and
local
communities
would
not
be
allowed
to
do
that.
The
other
option,
which
is
the
option
we're
going
to
go
with,
is
to
issue
credits
in
the
third
and
fourth
quarter,
send
out
a
notice
to
all
the.
L
I'll
get
to
the
third
okay,
I'm
going
with
the
second
okay,
yes,
so
the
so.
The
second
is
we
will.
We
will
notify
the
taxpayers
way
of
a
notice.
L
The
third
option
was
to
completely
wipe
out
the
bill
issue,
a
new
bill.
Our
concern
about
that
was
that
having
two
bills
floating
out
there,
having
quarters
would
be
people
would
get
confused
as
to
what
bill
would
be
end
up
paying
two
bills,
so
we're
going.
I
think
most
of
the
communities
are
going
with
the
second
option.
L
Some
of
the
communities
have
had
the
ability
to
implement
that
for
the
the
second
third
and
fourth
quarter,
we're
not
going
to
be
in
time
for
that,
so
we're
going
to
be
issuing
a
credit
for
the
third
and
fourth
quarter,
so
people
will
have
a
reduced
car
tax
bill.
Third
and
fourth
quarter
proportionate
to
what
the
state
implemented,
which
I
believe
in
most
cases,
is
a
five
percent
reduction
in
the
value
or
valuing
the
vehicle
at
95
percent
and
reducing
the
exemption
of
those
falling
off
from
20
years
to
15
years
so
there'll
be.
L
E
Okay,
there's
always
something
happening
in
ward,
four
I'll,
keep
it
brief,
but
the
kent
county,
I
called
the
ken
county
water
project
over
off
of
117.
As
many
of
you
know,
there
have
been.
There
have
been
several
hundred
complaints
about
the
roads
in
that
area.
They
are
being
fixed.
E
I've
been
driving
through
the
ward,
quite
a
bit,
it's
not
all
done.
I
know
the
weather
plays
a
huge
part
in
it,
but
they
are
being
paved
number
two
this
past
summer,
and
I
started
this
late
and
that's
my
fault,
but
I
secured
money
from
a
sponsor
for
a
family
entertainment
series
held
in
crompton
in
ward
4.,
very
difficult
to
get
the
word
out
with
school,
not
being
in
session.
E
It
was
a
I
consider
it
successful.
It
was.
I
had
a
sponsorship
for
three
shows.
We
ran
to
the
third
show
I
postponed
only
because
the
type
of
show
it
was
required,
a
huge
audience.
E
E
Three
we
we
just
recently
had
a
a
fishing
derby
at
the
fishing
pier
sponsored
by
the
pra.
They
only
meet
once
a
month.
So
again
the
the
issue
was
advertisement
and
it
was
late.
E
So
that
is
going
to
be
a
yearly
thing.
This
winter
I
plan
on
putting
a
lot
of
things
together
for
spring
through
through
fall
for
next
year.
With
some
notice
there
will
be
a
halloween
party
on
october
28th
at
the
civic
center.
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
legwork
on
that.
Trying
to
I
want
to
make
it
low
cost,
no
cost
if
possible,
but
that
is
in
the
works.
E
Also
I'd
like
to
report
that
about
four
or
four
or
five
months
ago
I
want
to
say.
In
april
I
wrote
in
february
I
wrote
a
grant
for
for
the
usta.
For
tennis
and
again,
that's
been,
it's
been
very
difficult
to
implement
because
we
don't
have
a
recreation
department.
E
So
it's
not
something
you
can
do
and
hand
off
to
so
I
I
was
more
conservative
with
this,
because
I
wanted
to
do
it
the
right
way
and
right
now
it's
it's
starting.
In
october,
it's
going
to
run
on
saturday
mornings
and
it's
exclusive.
It's
an
adaptive
program
for
special
needs,
kids,
kids
and
adults,
and
I
work
with
our
local
special
needs
group.
The
wildcats
they
operate
out
of.
E
They
represent
the
school
out
of
the
school
system
in
special
olympics
and
they
represent
our
town
and
it's
of
no
cost
to
the
town
at
all.
So
we're
gonna
begin
with
that
and
then
hopefully,
next
spring
we
can
put
additional
classes
focusing
on
horrigan
school.
I
All
right,
it's
actually
not
going
on
what
for
it's
going
on
jay's,
ward,
but
jill's
kitchen.
This
saturday
is
doing
a
yard
sale
for
a
gentleman
who's,
who's
dying
for
the
family
to
go
to
disney.
The
last
wish
for
this
gentleman,
so
it's
7
30
to
1
at
jealous
kitchen.
If
you
have
anything
you
want
to
donate
to
this
yard
sale,
you
can
you
can
contact
gel
and
give
you
can
bring
it
that
morning
or
if
you
can't
make
it
that
morning,
you
can
contact
her
and
make
other
arrangements.
I
100
of
the
money
raised
will
go
towards
this
family.
So
it's
a
good
cause.
If
anybody
wants
to
go
out
this
saturday.
D
I
just
got
three
important
things:
wakefield
street,
we
passed
an
audience,
no
two
trucks,
it's
getting
crazy
tracked
the
trailer
since
that
road
was
done,
they're
crossing
the
yellow
lines,
it's
a
nightmare.
They
have
one
sign
on
the
bottom
towards
main
street
near
the
fire
station.
You
can't
see
it
dave
you're
in
charge
of
the
signs.
Dave
is
dave
still
here,
freddie's,
not
here
either
ma.
Can
you
tell
them
to
put
the
signs
and
chief?
D
Maybe
your
officers
can
can
enforce
this
this
way
here
you
know
it's
not
local
travel
traffic,
it's
all
out
of
town
they
cut
through
with
tractor
trailers,
dump
trucks.
D
We
understand
that
they
have
to
get
up
there
to
go
service
a
home
or
something,
but
when
it's
every
day
the
buses,
maybe
we
can
reach
out
to
the
bus
line
to
use
main
street
and
providence
street
instead
of
cutting
through
wakefield
street.
So
we
put
a
little
warnings
on
that.
Let
your
officers
know
so
they
get
used
to
not
cutting
through
there.
D
D
And
mock
I'll
count
on
my
roadbound
money.
I
know
what
one's
in
really
good
shape
or
roads.
So
I'll
give
you
a
call.
That's
all
I
have
thank
you.
B
Upcoming
appointments
planning
board
one
alternate
member
for
a
five-year
term
technology
committee,
one
ward:
two
expired
12
31,
18
ward,
3
expired,
12,
31,
18
ward,
5
expire,
12,
30,
118,
sewer
use
board
of
review,
2
2
for
term
to
expire,
12,
7,
10,
17,
westward
housing
authority,
one
term
to
expire,
1117
arctic
redevelopment,
commission,
one
term
to
expire,
10-117
board
of
tenant
affairs,
one
term
to
expire,
11,
2017
pension
board.
Two
was
the
term
to
expire,
11,
18,
17
and
11
18
19.
A
Any
public
comment:
I
only
have
two
quick
things:
two
things
apart
to
my
attention:
one
was
the
field
house
and
I
shrink.
If
anybody
wants
the
contract
and
bids
dave,
gosling
recused
himself
from
every
single
one
doesn't
know
anything
that
happened
in
the
executive
session.
Never
knew.
I'm
sure
peter
can
tell
you
what
happened
in
executive
session,
but
I
can't
tell
you
what
happened
in
the
executive
session
and
number
two.
A
These
cameras
went
out
to
bid
here's
the
bid,
if
you
want
it,
okay,
to
say
that
they
didn't
go
out
to
bid,
and
you
don't
even
know
if
they
went
out
to
bid,
is
unbelievable,
and
I
will
say
this
tonight.
I
didn't
want
to
say
this,
but
what's
been
going
on
in
this
town
in
these
meetings
is
disgusting
sickening
and
mrs
padula's
right.
A
E
D
A
C
A
A
Anna
when
somebody
from
pompano
florida
is
saying
he
votes
and
that's
it.
I
that's
not
a
constituent
of
mine,
okay,
when,
when
somebody's
sitting
here
talking
on
facebook,
that
you
want
me
to
take
advice
from
that
are
making
jokes
about
rape,
making
jokes
about
people
who
are
dying
of
cancer,
I'm
not
going
to
say
their
name!
No.
Why.
A
A
Okay,
we
all
want
a
better
town,
I'm
not
suggesting
so
my
kids
are
buying.
My
son's
already
told
me
dad.
I
want
your
house
he'll,
be
my
he's
a
sixth
generation
here.
You
know
I
don't
want
to
I'll
be
here
in
west
fork,
I'm
not
leaving
okay,
I'm
not
telling
anybody
to
sell
we're
all
in
this
together.
Many
of
you
out
in
this
crowd
do
a
lot
for
this
community.
Okay,
the
reads
I'll
tell
you
right
now:
you
do
a
lot
for
this
community.
You've
done
stuff
for
the
baseball
league.
A
A
We
want,
like
I
said,
we're
all
in
this
together
and
the
only
way,
and
yet
we're
not
going
to
agree
on
everything
we.
We
don't
agree
on
everything
up
here
and
we
may
and
that's
that's
perfect.
We
don't
want
to
agree
on
everything
up
here.
I've
been
on
councils
where
there
is
never
any
disagreement
and
that's
not
the
way
the
town
should
run.
There
should
be
disagreement.
A
E
I
have
one
thing
to
say:
I
have
a
question
and
I
I
think
you're
gonna
know
what
it
is
when
I
talk
about
boards
direct
board.
It's
to
me.
I
I
don't-
and
I
don't
understand
this
because
we
didn't
have
enough
people
to
serve
on
the
rec
board.
Well,
they're,
all
there
and
now
everybody's
been
there
since
late
spring,
and
I
can
name
10
items
off
the
top
of
my
head
why
they
should
meet
and
it
should
be
on
a
regular
basis.
E
F
F
You
know
so
that
applies,
and
I
don't
know
why
the
technology,
the
what
was
the
other
one,
that's
a
mess.
We
need.
E
A
For
that,
I'm
the
representation
for.