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A
Monday
march
19th
fiscal
19
budget
workshop
is
now
6,
03
p.m.
B
C
The
proposed
budget
overall
expenditure
increase
is
two
million
one
hundred
and
forty
six
thousand
five
hundred
and
ninety
five
dollars
or
two
point
two
six
percent
over
the
fy
eighteen
adopted
budget.
This
is
a
current
services
budget
to
support
the
spending
plan.
An
increase
in
the
property
tax
levy
of
3.94
will
be
necessary.
C
C
The
motor
vehicle
values
minus
the
exemptions
is
the
new
value
that
we'll
use
to
assist
in
calculating
the
overall
property
tax
amounts.
So
it
was
taken
out
of
the
tax
levy
and
we'll
discuss
more
of
this
when
we
get
into
the
revenues,
but
that
will
have
an
effect
on
the
overall
revenues
to
the
town.
With
the
state
reimbursement
we'll
be
going
up
to
a
two
thousand
dollar
exemption.
C
There
will
be
an
increase
in
state
aid
for
the
motor
vehicle
phase
out,
but
that
will
have
a
an
effect
on
the
levy,
because
this
is
the
first
year
property
motor
vehicle
taxes
have
been
taken
out
of
the
levy
calculation,
but
we're
talking
about
more
of
that
as
we
get
into
revenues
in
developing
this
year's
budget,
we
took
you
know
you
start
at
looking
at
the
2018
budget.
That's
your
starting
point.
C
As
you
are
aware,
corrective
action
plan
needed
to
be
developed
as
a
result
of
some
unrealistic
budget
estimates,
expense
and
line
expense
items
being
under
budgeted
or
not
being
budgeted
all.
As
a
result,
there
is
a
structural
deficit
that
needed
to
be
corrected
before
one
additional
dollar
was
raised
on
the
revenue
side.
For
example,
there
were,
prior
year
tax
estimates
of
2.2
million
dollars
this
year,
2.4
million
dollars
and
17.
C
C
Some
expenditure
increases
that
we
have
talked
about
before
over
time
has
been
budgeted
this
year
at
the
three-year
averages,
which
are
substantially
more
about
400
000
more
than
what
was
budgeted
in
18
and
some
simple
things
such
as
liability
insurance
workers,
comp
about
206
thousand
dollars,
was
necessary
just
to
bring
it
up
to
what
it
is
in
18
before
we
even
factor
in
the
increase
for
the
2019
budget-
and
you
know
these
practices
occurred
over
many
cycles
and
this
budget
corrects
those
past
practices,
and
one
of
my
goals
coming
in
was
to
prepare
a
balanced
budget
that
was
based
for
19,
based
upon
the
best
information
we
have
for
revenues
and
expenses,
and
we
have
done
that
so
tonight
we
start
on
the
first
of
our
two
departmental
budget
hearings
to
be
followed
by
two
public
hearings
in
april.
A
Thank
you.
I
guess
we
can
go
right
in
order
senior.
D
F
G
A
A
You
all
right!
213,
000.
last
year
was
213
000.,
give
us
an
idea
what's
going
on
with
the
senior
satellite,
so
I
did
give
you
a
breakdown
of
some
statistics
that
we
do.
H
G
Services,
these
are
calls
brought
in
or
visits
that
we've
had
or
consumers
that
do
come
into
the
center.
Looking
for
help
with
medicare.
G
And
then,
under
the
human
service
side,
all
the
things
that
we
do
with
human
services,
rental
assistance,
emergency
food,
emergency,
shelter,
community
service,
we
help
families
with
furniture.
We
do
the
thanksgiving
program,
the
christmas
program,
those
were
numbers:
employee,
distribution
through
christmases,
fuel
applications,
fuel
assistance,
our
summer
camp
for
kids,
our
prescription
assistance
and
our
free
summer.
Art
program
for
children.
G
G
G
No
seniors
have
a
lot
of
seniors,
never
went
to
their
senior
church;
either
they
went
off
to
war,
they
had
to
quit
school
to
go
to
work
in
those
days.
If
a
girl
didn't
get
asked
to
the
prom,
she
didn't
go
so
a
lot
of
seniors.
They
really
enjoy
that
this
and
it's
free.
So
it's.
H
A
A
Before
the
chief
gets
started,
I
just
want
to
point
out
earning
the
c
salaries
up.
Can
you
explain
that.
C
Yes,
for
this
budget
proposal,
we're
recommending
what
we
put
in
the
our
arbitration
award
for
the
police
department.
You
know
it's
still
being
resolved,
but
it
is
something
that
is
due
and
payable
at
the
present
time,
so
that
has
been
included
in
the
police
department
wages.
So
they
are
that
arbitration
award
is
reflective
here.
A
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear.
I
think
the
council's
aware
the
chief's
aware
the
police
department
did
go
to
arbitration,
they
did
win
and
the
council
decided
to
appeal
that
is.
They
were
awarded
a
2.75
percent
increase
in
pay
in
salaries,
so
just
want
to
make
that.
H
C
H
A
J
Yes,
so,
basically,
that's
a
breakdown,
obviously
associated
support
operations
of
the
department,
as
you
know,
we're
tasked
with
enforcing
state
law
and
local
audiences
traffic
safety
enforcement,
criminal
investigations,
physical
plan
communication
services
and
maintenance.
A
J
F
Chief,
I
have
some
questions
on
here.
If
you
can,
this
may
be
a
silly
one,
but
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
this:
what's
the
difference
between
a
holiday
and
a
civilian
holiday.
J
F
J
Be
for
the
police,
that's
the
sworn
members
of
the
department
and
then,
if
you
look
at
the
civilian
volume,
then
that
breaks
down
to
our
civilian
employees,
which
we
have
our
dispatch
animal
control,
secretary,
administrative
assistant,
broken
delta,
14.
F
Most
of
the
questions
I
have
tonight,
I
don't
know
if
the
department
head
can
answer.
Ernie
can
answer,
I'm
looking
at
basically
the
adopted
fy18
and
what
each
department
head
was
given
and
what
actually
was
used
up
until
january
31st.
It
may
be
an
answer
of
we're
going
to
use
it
because
of
the
because
of
the
the
season,
but
something
like
wellness
where
you
were
a
lot
of
25
dollars.
Only
a
thousand
dollars
was
used
at
this
point.
F
J
So
what
most
a
lot
of
those
items
so
wellness
would
be
one
longevity
would
be
one.
Sometimes
our
training
would
be
one
they're
only
showing
at
the
seven
month
part
now
that
we've
only
spent
a
certain
amount.
That's
because
wellness
we
do
every
year
in
may,
okay,
so
in
may
that
amount
will
decrease
drastically.
I.
F
J
F
J
F
An
item
I'd
like
to
bring
up
which
is
actually
going
to
cross
three
departments,
and
I
was
going
to
wait
until
next
week
to
do
it
where
I
had
solid,
more
solid
numbers,
but
I
don't
believe
that
the
animal
shelter
should
be
under
the
police
department
amen.
I'd
like
to,
I
think
now,
it's
after
hearing
everything
that's
going
on
with
the
whole
situation
with
volunteers,
I
think,
has
become
a
burden
for
the
police
department
and
I
feel
that
the
police
department
should
be
able
to
do
the
policing.
F
I
don't
know
when
to
bring
it
up,
I'm
just
going
to
bring
it
up
now.
One
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
do
is
put
a
new
position
in
the
enterprise
fund,
which
would
be
a
facility
manager
position,
and
now
those
facilities
would
include,
and
again
this
may,
if
it's
not
the
right
time
and
you'd
like
me
to
to
stop
and
wait,
that's
fine,
but
it
would
be
the
civic
center
it'll,
be
the
ice.
F
Rink
it'll
be
the
animal
shelter
as
indoor
facilities,
with
a
knowledgeable
experience
facility
manager
to
run
all
three
of
those
indoor
facilities.
That
means
scheduling,
complete
with
with
a
clerk,
keep
the
same
staff
that
we
have
but
make
it
a
true
hierarchy.
So
people
can
understand
it
because
right
now
it's
pretty
muddy.
F
They'd
also
be
control
of
outdoor
facilities
such
as
the
parks.
Concession
stands
pavilions
and
they
would
have
the
parks,
recreation
foreman
under
them
and
they
would
be
and
they
the
facility
manager
would
delegate
down,
but
they
could.
Actually
it's
like.
It's
like
a
puzzle.
You.
F
F
J
J
We
have
a
function
with
them
when
they
need
us
to
go
serve
summonses.
We
will
assist
them
just
as
we
do
with
building
we.
We've
had
been
maintaining
them
since
I've
been
a
police
officer.
It's
certainly
not
a
very
good
management
practice,
we've
kind
of
done
much
better
right
now.
I
just
don't
have
the
people
to
change
it.
We
have
and.
J
I
know
the
volunteers
was
a
nightmare
of
a
conversation,
but
I
said
from
day
one
we
survived
because
of
those
volunteers
and
the
assistance
they
provide
to
us.
I
mean
that
we
didn't
want
to
stop
it.
We
had
to
for
reasons
that
we
I
can't
speak
about,
but
neither
here
nor
there
I
mean.
That
would
be
a
great
thing.
I
just
don't
know.
Chief.
F
And
in
this
this
position,
I'm
looking
at
I'm
looking
at
a
salaried
position
again
changing
it
up
a
little
bit
no
pension,
I'm
looking
at
possible
401k
doing
away
from
that
pension
for
this
position,
salary
it's
out
40
hours
a
week,
plus
whatever
needs
to
get
done.
F
E
A
Of
them
right
well,
they
might
be
responding.
I
understand
what
jay's
saying
here.
So
what
he
wants
to
do
is
have
somebody
who's
in
charge.
So
if,
let's
say
you
promote
somebody
down
there
as
dog
officer
to
the
that
facilities
person,
they
might
only
be
responsible
for
that
facility.
That's
the
only
thing.
F
H
You
need
to
know
how
to
manage
one
step
further.
Maybe
I
got
lost
in
last
year's
budget,
but
I'm
looking
through
did
the
overtime
stop
with
the
police
department
chief,
where,
on
saturdays
and
sundays,
you
had
captains
sergeants
majors
at
75,
an
hour
minimum
four
hours
of
time
that
they
went
to
go
clean
up
the
dog
pound.
No,
that
that
ended
then
right
yeah.
We.
J
J
J
So
when
we
had
one
animal
control
officer,
obviously
he
or
she
only
work
five
days
a
week,
so
they
would
have
to
come
in
on
their
two
days
off,
because
if
we
have
animals
done,
they
have
to
be
fed
and
clean.
So
they
would
do
that
and
if
they
were
not
available,
then
it
would
go
through
the
municipal
union.
There
were
three,
I
want
to
say
municipal
employees
who
had
worked
in
the
dog
pound
product,
the
animal
control,
shelter
prior
and
they
would
be
offered
to
go.
J
H
J
J
Do
that
we
still
do
that.
So
if
we,
what
you
do
that
we're
on
duty,
correct
right.
So
if
we
have
right
now,
there's
no
animal
control
officer
on
duty.
A
D
H
Yeah
joe,
what's
scba
meters
maintenance,
what's.
H
A
A
H
Well,
we
we
joined
forces
with
coventry,
and
I
haven't
heard
anything
about
it.
A
If
you
can
try
to
get
an
update
on
that,
but
again
the
worst
thing
to
do
is
take
it
out
of
the
budget
and
then
have
to
pay
for
it
later,
because
we
learned
that
lesson
last
year
where
it
was
in
the
budget,
but
we
were
told
nothing.
We
didn't
pay
it
and
all
sudden
they're,
sending
us
late
fees
and
whatever
else,
and
we
ended
up
paying
it
anyway
with
late
fees.
So
I'd
advise
to
keep
it
in
there.
For
now,.
F
Thing
chief,
I
have
a
question.
Yes
in
the
line:
item:
training.
F
It
just
it
says
going
by
the
numbers:
15
and
16
was
just
over
3
000
in
training
and
then
in
17
it
was
31
000.
Then
last
year
we
allocated
37
000
and
right
now,
14
000
has
been
used.
Is
that
something
where
again,
it's
seasonal
and
you're,
going
to
be
training
more
training?
This
spring.
D
Only
being
three
thousand,
but
we
do
our
own
trip,
we're
doing
our
own
training,
in-house
professional
development,
emt
research,
all
those
trains
which
were
including
overtime
at
the
time.
Now
that
we're
going
to
the
state
fire
academy.
A
A
D
A
Saying
police
and
fire
are
very
close
to
the
same
as
far
as
headcold
by
a
couple
yeah.
They
don't
know
that
number
so
well.
I
just
did
a
count
in
my
head.
What
you
have
here
for
staffing
and
what
they
have
here
for
staffing?
Yes,
so
the
question
I
have
in
you
know:
I've
been
a
question
every
year
up
here
and
I'll
be
the
devil's
advocate.
But
you
know
police
overtime,
who's
working
five
days
a
week
is
884
and
majority,
except
for
your
fire
marshals
and
whatever
work
two
days
a
week.
D
Can
you
have
we
have
a
minimum
which
I
believe
chief
has
also
on
his
patrol
officers?
We
have
more,
we
have
more
firefighters
on
the
line
we
have
60
on
the
line.
I
don't
know
what
his
numbers
are
for
patrolman
and.
D
Correct
we
also
have
all
the
divisions,
firing
convention
fire
alarm
division
before
dispatches.
I
myself
and
the
two
the
clerk
and
my
administrative
assistant
are
in
there
now.
As
far
as
the
overtime
goes,
we
have
a
minimum
meaning
of
15
per
shift.
G
D
And,
as
you
know,
in
2008
the
second
rescue
was
put
into
service
full
time
and
at
that
time
additional
manpower
was
not
added
to
me
in
that
drug,
so
we
had
15
per
shift
with
a
minimum
of
13
at
that
time.
D
A
D
H
Joe,
it
just
seems
like-
and
I'm
gonna
say
it.
I
think
that,
and
I
always
said
minimum
meaning
you'll
never
stop
overtime
with
minimum
earnings,
so
something
has
to
drastically
be
done
with
minimum
manning
because
it
seems
like
they
can
hit
social
media
on
their
weeks
on
their
days
on
and
they
always
have
time
to
answer
or
make
comments
on
social
media
while
they're
on
duty.
So,
yes,
I
do,
and
I
have
the
records
for
that.
Also,
so
you
know
they
want
to
play
politics,
so
that
means
that
they
jumped
in
the
political
arena.
H
It's
not
the
first
time,
they've
done
it
and
I'm
not
condemning
you
have
a
great
bunch
of
guys
and
I'm
not
condemning
for
the
few
bad
ones
that,
in
my
opinion,
that
you
have,
but
I
think
they
have
too
much
time
on
the
hands.
15
men
per
shift,
I
think,
is
outrageous
in
an
eight
square
mile
radius
of
our
town
and
minimum
manning.
If
we
don't
stop
minimum
manning,
we
will
never
stop
overtime.
So
no
one
on
this
council
can
fool
themselves
as
long
as
there's
a
minimum
manning.
H
D
Well,
if
I
may
reasons
for
over
time
start
with
vacation,
sick
leave,
injury
training
includes
education,
school
feelings,
ems
updates,
professional
development,
fires,
hazmat
incidents,
weather
related
incidents,
maintenance
of
our
scba,
because
I
do
not
have
daytime
people
to
do
these.
These
ancillary
duties
we
have
to
hire
over
time.
D
A
lot
of
calls
are
late,
runs
guys
get
back
late
from
past
their
scheduled
shift.
Legal
court
appearances,
union
business
investigations,
inspections
during
fires.
Yes,
of
course,
like
I
said,
sick
leave,
and
that
is
what
creates
over
overtime
our
operations
as
a
fire
department.
D
We're
all
the
fire
service
has
changed
dramatically.
We
just
don't
go
to
fires
anymore,
we're
all
hazard
operational,
we're
plumbers,
electricians,
maintenance,
people,
inspectors
and
the
fire
department
must
be
capable
of
establishing
the
following
functions
at
each
structure:
fire
there's
22
tests
that
have
to
be
taking
care
of
that
fire
and
which
needs
me
and
power
of
17
people
to
be
at
the
fire
for
a
single
family
home
to
complete
the
22
tests.
D
This
is
a
nfpa
nationwide
standard.
We
run
two
men
under.
H
A
South
street
was
one
of
them.
It
was
a
two-family
house
over
there
angelo.
When
I
pull
up
to
a
fire.
I
could
tell
you,
there's
nobody
sitting
around
doing
nothing
that
I
can
honestly
say.
A
A
You
know
if
I
could
predict
every
emergency
I'd
be
a
millionaire,
because
I
could
probably
stop
a
lot.
Listen.
H
A
D
D
A
D
Dude
and
response
times-
and
this
goes
on-
if
you
let
me
just
finish
this
thing-
the
study
clearly
demonstrates
that
for
safe,
effective
and
efficient
fire
suppression,
each
responding
company
needs
a
minimum
qualifier,
that's
not
going
to
happen
here.
We
all
know
that.
So
what
I
do
and
my
battalion
chiefs
do
with
the
manpower
we
have.
D
Sometimes
you
get
criticized
how
many
trucks
already
seen
for
a
certain
call
we're
getting
all
our
manpower
available
there
if
our
two
rescues
are
out
on
a
call
we're
down
to
11
people
to
respond
to
the
other
calls,
and
now,
with
the
new
protocols
with
ems,
we're
responding
we're
going
to
marry
him
hospital
veterans.
Hasbro
hot
rescues
are
out
of
service
longer
than
they
ever
been.
People.
D
This
is
just
a
couple
other
things
the
first
arriving
here
is
just
give
you
an
idea
what
the
standards
are
which
keeps
us
out
of
liable
situations.
The
first
arriving
engine
must
arrive
within
four
minutes.
Ninety
percent
of
the
time,
that's
why
the
stations
are
where
they
are,
that's
why
we
have
the
trucks
where
they
are,
and
we
do
maintain
that
some
days
get
so
hectic
we're
having
engine
two
from
phoenix.
We
spawned
up
the
ledge
away
in
the
in
the
crop
in
our
ward.
A
D
So
those
are
some
of
the
standards,
as
a
chief
I
have
to
to
protect
the
town.
In
my
guys,
osha
in
1998
mandated
two
win
two
up.
What
that
means
is
if
engine
one
pulls
up
on
the
scene
here
in
osha,
ball
and
they're
waiting
technically,
they
can't
go
in
that
building
until
two
other
people
arrive
for
their
safety.
If
somebody's
hanging
from
the
window
they're
going
in,
but
we
can,
we
could
have
issues
with
that
if
somebody
got
hurt.
D
So
those
are
the
things
we
have
to
worry
about
out
there,
like,
I
said,
the
fire
department
responds
to
many
things:
brush
fire
stump,
just
fires
along
dumpsters
oils,
buildings,
single
family,
multi,
multiple
stories,
water,
emergency,
odor,
gas,
carbon
monoxide,
gas
emergencies,
lockouts,
lock,
ins,
auto
accidents,
extrication
malfunctioning
boilers,
malfunctioning
alarms,
accidental
alarms,
electrical
emergency,
elevator
and
so
on.
D
D
H
H
Shaven
savings
shouldn't
be
at
that
the
savings
shouldn't
be
on
where
your
dpw
guy
shouldn't
be
on
the
road
32
hours
at
a
time.
So
I
know
what
we
have
to
do,
what
we
should
do
and
whatever
you
decide
you
think
you
should
do.
Then
that
will
come
to
the
vote
and
the
last
result
would
be
at
the
financial
town
meeting.
D
H
H
A
D
F
H
H
In
in
this
town,
my
concern
is:
are
we
getting
the
biggest
buck
out
of
our
biggest
bang
out
of
our
buck?
Some
of
these
contractuals,
which
we
all
know
contractual
contracts,
are
unsustainable.
H
That's
what
I'm
saying
I'm
not
putting
anybody
at
harm
harm's
way,
because
believe
me,
when
my
father
or
my
mother,
we
we
have
the.
I
have
the
utmost
respect
for
our
police
and
fire,
but
now
we're
talking
money
right.
I.
F
H
H
F
D
I'm
not
negotiating
for
the
guys,
but
I
see
their
contract
compared
to
the
other
contracts
for
our
mistakes
granted.
Some
things
could
be
tweaked
other
than
that.
A
G
C
It
is
in
the
general
government
portion
of
the
budget.
There's
a
line
item
called
fund
balance.
That's
where
anticipated
well,
funds
for
any
type
of
negotiated
settlements
would
be
so
that's
going
to
be
discussed
next
week,
but
so.
C
C
Well,
any
any
well,
the
overtime
is
based
upon
their
rate,
and
if
there
is
an
increase
and
the
overtime
would
eat
would
increase
as
well.
A
A
E
C
F
C
A
Now,
the
chief-
I
know
this
is
your
budget,
but
I
just
want
to
ask
something
on
17.:
we're
talking
about
police
and
fire
arbitration
and
win
and
possible
wins
in
court.
I
mean,
let's
face
it:
the
police
already
won.
There's
2.75
revenue
last
year,
fire
we're
in
negotiations
we're
trying
to
work
out
those
negotiations
to
not
be
retro
correct.
Where
do
we
stand
with
municipal?
Are
we
even
talking
to
them
yet.
C
A
D
G
A
H
A
H
A
D
That
is
correct
and
sean
henry
our
assistant
here,
the
last
couple
of
years,
has
been
forty
four
hundred
fifty
dollars
back
from
the
state
grant
help
us.
Also
we
keep.
We
keep
the
full
amount
in
there.
Just
in
case
we
don't
get
the
ram
okay.
A
A
A
A
E
I
No,
the
general
wages
that
is
obviously
nicole,
not
she
wasn't
in
the
budget
last
year.
She
was,
she
actually
came
out
of.
A
H
H
Just
like
when
I
brought
the
experts
in
before
we
decided
to
go
private
that
this
was
going
to
happen.
I
I
I
I
That
comes
out
of
yeah.
It
comes
on
rubbish.
A
G
A
E
A
Well
again,
in
2015,
when
we
started
this
contract
with
700
000,
and
it
does
have
a
clause
in
the
error
of
I
think
or
three
or
five
percent,
three
percent
increase
every
year,
which
isn't
a
bad
expense,
but
then
we've
added
things
to
it.
First
of
all,
we've
added
more
pickups,
we've
added
bulk
pickup,
we've
added
a
lot
of
others.
E
A
There's
two
big
things
on
this:
first
of
all,
us
as
council
people
up
here
have
gotten
calls
about
mattresses
on
the
street,
mat
this
that
and
other
things
okay,
attendees
hold
on
now
we
used
to
just
call
up
our
dpw
say,
take
care
of
it,
please
asap
and
they
would
take
care
of
it.
Well
now,
it's
not
under
their
responsibility.
Why
would
they
want
to
take
care
of
it?
They
want
personally,
they
want
to
teach
us
a
lesson.
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
be
I'm
going
to
be
open
and
honest.
A
A
E
F
F
A
F
E
A
Week
it
would
be
cheaper
right,
I'll,
be
honest,
his
my
opinion.
You
have
nicole,
not
there.
Okay,
if
we
had
a
crew,
a
two-man
crew
scheduled
for
boat
pickup
every
day,
every
yeah
every
day.
First
of
all,
it
keeps
the
town
clean.
Second
of
all,
nicole
gets
the
call
saying
hey.
I
got
a
jackpot
out
here
and
trust
me.
I
don't
want
to
get
back
into
jackpots
where
we're
cleaning
up
apartment
complexes
every
weekend.
Well,
that's.
H
A
A
My
opinion-
and
I
fought
this
last
year
with
dave
lombari-
was
if
we
had
two
guys
on
this
duty
and
they
call
up
and
we
call
up
the
town
calls
up.
The
building
official
calls
up
and
says:
listen,
we
got
a
bunch
of
trash
on
main
street.
We
need
it
picked
up.
These
guys
can
get
in
the
trucks
that
have
down
there
and
clean
up
right
away.
We
don't
have
to
wait
for
mega
three
weeks
out.
We
don't
have
to
wait
for
every
other
saturday.
E
F
E
F
That
and
pick
it
up
financially
financial
wise.
If
we
were
to
go
that
route,
then
we
would
need
to.
I.
E
E
A
G
H
A
G
A
A
H
A
Yeah
but
then,
when
you
call
them
for
these
bulk,
it's
a
thousand
fifty
every
time
you
come
out.
So
if
you
so
don't
don't
add,
add
that
up
too
because
there's
times
we
call
them
instead
of
having
our
guys
clean
it
up,
we
call
them
to
come,
get
it
and
they
charge
us
a
thousand.
Fifty
everything
yeah.
A
I
I
All
the
numbers
didn't
add
up.
We
were
paying
the
bills
monthly.
We
were
paying
93
000
a
month
just
for
trash
pickup
and
we
were
trying
to
add
them
up
from
the
contract
during
butter
time.
Nothing
was
adding
up,
we
added
in
the
bins,
so
we
contacted
mega
and
they
weren't
actually
charging
us
for
the
bins
for
the
last
three
years.
So
then
we
got
a
bin,
a
bill
for
54
000
and
then
another
one
for
40
or
41
000.
For
the
last
two
years.
A
E
A
But
we
can
get
that
for
you
yeah,
so
we
had
at
that
time
we
had
12
people
on
the
trucks
plus
the
trucks.
You
know
it
was
just
and
we
had
a
lot
of
on-the-job
injuries
oji's.
E
Honestly,
it
is
a.
It
is
a
good
thing
that
people
I
mean.
I
remember
back
when
we
moved
out
of
our
house
in
2013
in
coventry,
you
were
able
to
just
put
anything
you
wanted
out
there
I
mean
with
the
limited
availability
in
the
landfill.
That
is
a
good
thing,
but
it
still
still
could
be
our
guys
doing
this
honoring
the
same
stringent.
You
know.
A
You
know
it's
so,
let's
make,
even
if
it's
60
000,
you
know
personally,
like
I
said,
if
you
went
during
your
shift,
it
can
be
picked
up.
There
will
be
overtime,
but
even
with
the
overtime
you're
still
going
to
save
that
58
thousand
dollars
a
year,
they're,
not
gonna,
you
know,
even
if
you
went
twice
a
month,
two
people
on
a
truck,
how
many
people
you
need
to
well.
Let
me
ask
you
this,
because
this
is
where
it's
going
to
get
here,
so
you
have
two
people
in
on
a
sad
day.
I
I
A
I
I
A
G
F
F
E
A
The
foreman
doesn't
get
behind
the
wheel
and
start
driving
everybody
around
the
laborers
are
on
the
truck
and
you
have
one
driver.
Now,
a
few
years
ago
we
tried
to,
and
when
kevin
raised
was
the
president.
We
tried
to
make
everybody
drive
his
labor,
so
there's
no
disparaging
or
no
saying
who's
who
so
that
way
there.
We
can
avoid
that
headache,
because
you
have
a
driver
and
a
label
and
I've
seen
it.
I've
sent
pictures
to
freddie.
You
could
drive
again.
E
E
F
A
F
I
H
A
A
But
again,
you're
going
to
look,
you
said:
hire
a
new
person
based
upon
contract
rules.
Okay,
you
got
that
one
person
there's
a
new
guy
who's,
not
getting
overtime
because
he's
tuesday
through
saturday,
but
you
still
got
three
other
people
I
need
to
come
in,
which
is
a
driver,
a
labor
and
a
foreman,
but.
H
It's
either
they
agree
or
they
don't
get
the
work
you
keep
it
contracted.
So
if
you
want
two
positions
or
a
position
whatever
you
need,
it's
either
go
or
no
either
we
take
it
back
or
we
keep
it
privatized.
So
you
eliminate
two
guys
and
we
don't
have
tuesday
through
saturday
job.
So
it's
a
win-win
situation
for
you
guys,
if
not
keep
it
the
way
it
is
you
get
nothing.
H
A
I
know
a
couple
hundred
thousand
is
probably
the
bins,
but
if
you
do
the
three
percent
clause,
you
know
that
should
be
going
up
like
21
000
a
year,
not
120
000.,
so
it
looks
like
in
16.
15
is
when
we
privatized
16,
we
might
have
been
paying
for
bins
there
yeah.
So
can
you
see
how
many
more
years
we
owe
on
bins?
Because
next
year
you
might
see
this
reduced
by
200
000.?
So.
A
I
Yeah
you
added
bulk
audio
added.
All
the
containers
they'll
be
renting
around
town
containers
for
the
dumpsters,
the
mega
picks
up.
They
pick
up
by
they
pick
up
by
the
ball
fields.
They
pick
up
by
here,
arctic.
You
know,
I
mean
yeah
and
you
still.
I
H
A
F
I'd
like
to
bring
something
up
right,
it's
just
well
yeah!
Well
for
freddy,
but
the
question
of
again,
I'm
looking
at
numbers
when
I
do
when
I,
when
I've
looked
at
this
I've
taken
people
out
of
it,
we've
gone
without
an
assistant
director,
freddie's
interim
director
right
now
for
dpw
we've
gone
without
an
assistant
director,
really
for
all
the
time
that
dave
dave,
lombardi
was
out
and
all
the
time
that
he's
been
out
that
he
retired.
So
that's
six
months
going
forward
and
that's
also
shared
with
the
with
the
civic
center
in
in
parks.
A
So
long,
without
it
my
reasons
behind
it,
I've
watched
dave
lombari
years
ago
without
freddie
as
a
direct
assistant
director
work,
so
many
hours
straight
through
storms
burn
them
right
out.
We
burnt
him
out
through
the
winter
months
and
he
can't
be
on
the
road
every
single
day,
following
guys
where
freddie's
able
to
do
so.
As
an
assistant
director,
you
know.
A
A
H
F
And
well,
the
thing
is,
I
mean
when
we
had
conversation
chief
last
year
for
for
hours
about
the
assistant
to
the
chief
of
tajik
barras,
and
I
was
for
it
just
given
the
amount
of
men
and
then,
when
you
looked
at
my
my
first
budget
last
year,
you
look
at
the
amount
of
employees.
Dpw
has
and
there's
an
assistant,
and
he
has
the
chief
kind
of
he's
by
himself.
A
A
He
has
four
battalion
chiefs,
unfortunately,
only
work
two
days
a
week
also,
and
they
don't
do
what
I
think
they
could
be
utilized
for
or
they're
not
being
utilized
for
what
they
should
be
doing.
Unfortunately,
it
doesn't
happen
that
way
and
that's
what
he
and
I
were
going
back
and
forth,
and
I
I
understand.
D
A
I'm
not
arguing
the
point
of
just
what
you
can
afford.
I
mean
freddy's
overtime,
he
for
storms
and
everything
else
and
drain
laying
and
whatever
else
any
emergency
floods.
Whatever
goes
on
coming
in
at
two
in
the
morning,
they're
overtime,
budget,
150
thousand
dollars.
At
the
same
with
that
many
people,
you
know,
and
they
got
vacation
time
they
got
sick
time.
They
got
everything
too.
The
only
thing
is
they
don't
have
minimum
man.
H
C
C
C
A
I
A
1St,
through
november
31st
november,
30th
wait,
I
mean
so
what
happened
right
so
parks
and
rec?
They
have
so
some
of
their
budgets
in
here
you'll
see
the
salaries
down
because
the
salaries
go
over
to
dpw
two
people
december
first
go
back.
I
A
E
A
F
I
I
talked
to
tony
duffy
at
length,
and
you
know
I'm
very
familiar
with
with
the
job
in
his
position
and
when
you
set
out
on
a
project
which
takes
four
guys
to
do
and
and
he's
won,
I
mean
it's,
it's
gonna
take
you,
you
know.
Instead
of
taking
you
four
hours,
it's
gonna.
Take
you
a
lot
longer
than
that,
because
after
four
hours,
you're
tired,
it's
gonna.
Take
you
extra
time.
F
I
can
understand
why
we
have
the
overtime,
but
what
I,
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
to
add
two,
I'm
going
to
call
them
green
season.
People
from
april
1st,
we'll
say
july,
1
july
august
september
april
may
june,
to
go
coincide
with
a
budget.
So
for
six
months,
let's
just
say:
I'm
just
throwing
these
numbers
out
say:
32
hours
a
week,
you
can
put
them
wherever
you
want.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
monday
through
thursday
or
thursday.
Through
sunday
you
can
maneuver
them
wherever
you
want
at
say,
15
an
hour.
A
A
H
F
If
we
had
the
facility
manager
and
then
we
have
the
parks
and
recreation
foreman
as
the
next
person
in
line,
everybody
else
would
fall
on
under
them.
So
we
would
actually
have
at
times
when
the
ice
rink
on
first
shift,
when
the
schedule's
already
done
and
there's
no
people
in
the
building
on
first
shift.
You
utilize
that
first
shift
person
who's
there
40
hours
a
week.
F
F
C
So
at
that
point,
is
this
going
to
be
potentially
a
union
position,
so
those
are
things
we
have
to
look
at
and
getting
back
to
your
first
question,
you.
F
G
I
A
A
A
F
H
H
A
So,
in
other
words,
I
know
personally
that
civic
center
slows
down
in
the
summer
there's
no
way
here.
No,
but
it's
about
it,
because
every
league
goes
the
outdoors
soccer,
whoever
now,
in
my
opinion,
in
my
opinion,
only
that
part
timers
can
handle
that
somewhere
up
there
and
you
have
two
individuals
that
and
I'm
not
sure
we
keep
an
eye
shrink
open
all
summer.
C
A
I
F
F
Week
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
overtime
at
the
again?
Listen,
I'm
not
looking!
I'm
not
begrudging
anybody
to
pick
up
an
overtime
shift
at
all.
You
know
if
it's
out
there
anybody
on
the
planet,
if
it's
out
there
and
you
don't
take
it,
then
I
think
there's
something
wrong,
because
it's
not
out
there
all
the
time.
But
you
know
I'm
looking
at
a
3.5
tax
increase
as
a
councilman
and
I'm
not
for
it,
because
I
know
people
can't
afford
it.
C
F
H
A
A
Everybody
got
text,
we
need
you
to
work
tonight.
None
of
that
part
time
is
going
to
one
day
a
two
day,
maybe
even
a
three
day
notice.
I
need
you
for
saturday
and
sunday
because
there
was
no
proper
scheduling
going
on.
So
what's
that
do
that
makes
all
the
union
employees
full-timers
now
get
the
overtime
because
they
got
to
cover
that
event,
because
the
part-timers
couldn't
cover
without
proper
notice.
G
I
F
F
H
E
A
A
I'm
a
part-time
guy
and
you're
calling
me
on
a
friday
to
work
a
saturday
and
I've
already
made
plans.
I'm
sorry,
gentlemen,
yeah
I'm
going
out
yeah,
but
that's
the
schedule.
A
F
A
A
It
and
councilman
lachadi
talked
to
me
in
length
last
week
about
this,
and
he
and
I
are
on
the
same
page
on
this
particular
item
and
we
think
between
the
dog
pound
and
that's
what
I
had
to
confirm-
and
I
confirmed
they
hit
tonight,
was
that
the
dog
officers
are
in
the
same
union.
So
there's
no
union
issues,
parks
and
rec,
and
then
we
need
to
re,
classify
and
who
goes
what
and
and
how.
You
know
that.
I
know
that
has
to
do
with
some
a
little
bit
of
negotiation.
F
A
I
A
But
it
becomes
an
abusive
thing
just
like
the
reason
why
we
privatize
it
the
first
time
and
now
it's
coming
back
again.
It's
coming
back
to
bite
us
in
the
rear
end
get
an
abusive
overtime,
abuse
of
who's,
doing
what
who
should
be
doing
what
who's,
taking,
what
who's,
leaving
the
building
with
what
it's
it's
ridiculous
up
there:
okay,
there's
no
oversight
and
freddie.
You
can't
be
there
and
I'm
going
to
be
honest
with
you
and
and
now
we've
discussed
this.
You
can't
be
there
from
six
in
the
morning
to
11
o'clock
at
night.
A
That's
their
hours
of
operation.
In
my
opinion,
the
person
who's
up
there,
renting
the
facility
and
showcasing
the
facilities
should
be
up
there.
The
secretary,
I
think
it
should
go
back
to
the
old
way,
put
the
secretary
down
dpw,
so
you
can
keep
an
eye
on
what's
going
on
up
there.
That's
just
my
opinion.
That's
the
way
it
used
to
be
maybe
go
that
route,
so
you
know
what's
going
on,
then
you
can
utilize
them
down
there,
also
for
other
things
that
they
can
help
each
other.
F
The
issue
that's
kind
of
muddy
ernie
is
because
we're
looking
at
a
budget
and
an
enterprise
fund,
and
it's
I.
What
I
think
is
money
is
because
it's
like
a
little
bit
of
what
dave
was
saying,
but
to
me
that
doesn't
make
any
sense,
because
you
have
par
part
salary
coming
from
one
part,
salary
coming
from
the
other.
C
Well,
I
agree
that
there's
needs
to
be
more
oversight
at
the
civic
center
in
the
recreation
area.
I
agree
completely
this
the
animal
shelter.
Well,
that's
sort
of
a
different
situation,
but
again
clearly,
oversight
needs
to
be
enhanced
there,
because
one
person
with
a
title
can't
be
there
and
overseas.
So
I
agree
with
you.
I
agree
with
the
suggestion
that
we
should
just
sit,
have
a
meeting
and
discuss
this
on
how
how
this
can
work,
because
there
are
many
issues.
C
For
example,
we
mentioned
job
well,
union
positions,
job
descriptions,
job
descriptions
right
now
indicate
that
are
written,
that
the
acos
report
to
the
day
shift.
Lieutenant
job
descriptions
have
to
be
negotiated.
They
can't
be
changed
unilaterally.
That
has
to
be
negotiated.
C
All
the
union
positions
report
to
the
at
the
civic
center
a
direct
center
report
to
the
recreation
director
you
know
not
dpw
or
facility
manager.
So
I
agree
that
we
need
to
do
things
differently
there.
It
is
broken.
We
need
to
fix
it,
and
I
agree
that
we
need
to
sit
down
and
figure
out
the
best
way
to
do
that,
and
certainly
do
need
to
have
a
discussion
with
or
representation
from
our
local
union
on
how
to
do
that.
But
it
is
broken.
I
A
B
B
H
G
I
H
A
A
A
C
C
I
was
surprised
when
I
came
that
we
have
a
part-time
person
for
the
manager's
office
as
executive
assistant
executive
secretary,
most
all
the
manager's
office,
that
I've
been
involved
in
and
executive
office
to
have
a
full-time
person
there.
C
Now
that
I'm
more
acclimated
here,
I'm
giving
that
person
more
and
more
to
do
spending
more
and
more
time
as
the
assistant
executive
assistant
to
the
manager,
I
believe
it's
an
essential
position
to
be
full
time
it.
You
know
I'm
giving
the
person
more
research
to
do
more
assistance
to
me
and
in
order
to
be
a
more
productive
office,
I
believe
that
I
need
a
full-time
person
to
have
a
part-time
person
in
the
manager's
office
leaving
half
of
the
time.
C
C
Potentially,
there
is
a
grievance
about
that
position
being
a
union
position.
My
intention
is
to
continue
on
with
that
and
and
see
that
to
the
conclusion.
As
far
as
being
a
union
position
a
non-union
position,
but
I
do
believe
that
this
is
necessary
for
the
effective
running
and
administration
of
the
manager's
office.
It
was
full-time
before
I
don't
know
why
it
was
changed.
Well,.
H
H
So
he
come
up
with
the
idea
of
a
pot-timer
and
there
was
no
benefits
and
he
had
quite
a
bit
to
do
also
because
he
came
in
like
you
and
had
his
hands
full
and
we
had
numerous
discussions
where
there's
not
35
hours
worth
of
work.
H
If
you
give
them
a
job
description
and
what
they
have
to
do-
and
I
know
elaine
also
took
calls
which
she
didn't
have
to,
but
she
always
did
and
now
we're
at
in
another
position,
there's
very
little
cuts
and
when
the
hr
director
was
talked
about,
it
was
supposed
to
be
half
for
us
and
half
of
the
schools
and
the
school
department
didn't
want
it.
So
our
previous
town
manager
put
a
full-time
hr
director
on
which
that
also
has
to
be
in
question
when
we're
looking
at
the
budget
for
cuts.
H
So
I'll
have
the
more
facts
that
I
have.
I
thought
it
was
in
last
year's
paper
here,
but
it
wasn't
and
I
can't
see,
hiring
another
position
full-time,
which
you're
going
to
give
benefits.
H
H
C
H
Department
what
they
would
be
doing
in
the
35
hours
that
they're
working,
how
they're
going
to
make
up
35
hours
a
week
of
answering
phones,
doing
some
things
that
you
say.
I
want
to
know
what
you're
going
to
do
more
than
two
town
managers
ago.
Didn't
do
that's
what
I
want
to
see
before
I'd
even
consider
this,
but
as
of
right
now,
I'm
totally
against
it
my
opinion,
but
when
the
cuts
come
they'll
come
but
she's
occupying.
F
This
is
this
is
before
me,
but
maybe
you
guys
can
answer
because
I,
I
guess
tell
me
human
resources
are
going
hand
in
what
did
we
do?
Who
handled
the
human
resources
before
we
had.
A
A
human
resource,
so
here's
what
happened-
and
this
is-
and
I
know
councilman
giroux
and
myself
were
big
proponents
of
hr.
First
of
all,
a
couple
of
different
things
happened.
Our
hr
person
was
a
union
representative
at
the
time,
okay,
and
we
felt
as
a
council
that-
and
I
think
angela
was
on
board
with
that-
that
that
should
not
be
a
union
position.
A
A
Now,
when
the
town
manager,
which
was
fred
at
the
time
he
was
dealing
with
in
department
heads
we're
dealing
with
employee
matters,
that
I'm
going
to
call
it
monty
hall
up
in
town
hall
prior
to
fred,
when
wolfgang
bowell
was
here,
you'd
have
employees
up
there.
Let's
make
a
deal,
you
know
a
guy
on
an
injury
we're
going
to
saddle
they
should
not.
A
town
manager
needs
to
be
focused
on
working
the
budget
working
with
the
town
working
with
businesses
working
with
their
department
heads
to
run
their
department.
A
E
A
Was
the
hr
director
at
the
time?
Okay,
we
had
so
much
going
on.
We
couldn't
have
that
anymore.
We
needed
something
and
not
only
that
we
needed
a
place
for
the
employees
and
the
department
heads
to
have
a
place
of
confidentiality
also.
So,
in
other
words,
if
chief
barris
had
an
issue
over
at
the
fire
department,
okay-
and
he
has
an
employee
issue-
he'd
go
to
the
town
manager
who
doesn't
really
know
the
laws
doesn't
know
the
regulations
doesn't
know
anything
about
labor,
no.
H
A
A
A
And
whether
or
not
he
should
have
been
there
or
shouldn't
have
been
there,
another
whole
story
now
personally
in
it.
This
is
the
strangest
thing,
because
some
people
really
appreciate.
I
know
departments
that
I've
talked
to
appreciate
the
hr
director.
Instead
of
having
to
talk
to
the
town
manager
about
personal
issues,
I've
talked
to
union
presidents.
A
One
thinks
it's
a
great
thing.
One
says
I
don't
know
if
I
like
it
or
not,
but
again,
I
think
an
hr
person
should
be
in
place
to
deal
with
hr
issues,
payroll
issues
whatever
it
may
be:
health
care,
payroll
fight
breaks
out
down
to
dpw.
You
know
you've
got
to
deal
with
that.
The
town
manager
should
not
be
dealing
with
that
plain
and
simple:
that's
how
the
hr
director
came
in
or
the
hr
person.
H
B
I
mean
I
am
the
hr
director
and
if
anybody
thinks
that
I'm
not
busy,
well
you
stop
by
my
office
anytime.
I
will
be
happy
to
give
you
as
many
numbers
and
stats
that
you
well.
H
B
B
He
he
liked
to
control
everything
in
his
office,
so
he
really
didn't
need
a
full-time
person,
so
we
said
well,
you
know
what
let's
save
some
money
and
rather
than
we
you
having
a
full-time
assistant
and
me
having
a
full-time
benefits
coordinator
I'll,
be
fine.
You
know
I'll
take
a
part-time
person,
you
take
a
part-time
person.
So
that's
what
we
did.
B
A
B
Yeah
I
mean
we're,
you
know
we
certainly
are
in
in
better
shape
than
we've
been
at
times.
We
certainly
we
have
gone
from
six
pages
of
work
related
incidents.
When
I
got
here
that
was
six
pages
long,
we've
cut
that
down
we're
probably
at
about
half
a
page.
Maybe
we
have
four
people
out
because
we
follow
up
on
everybody.
There's
no
such
thing
anymore.
When
I
came
to
this
town
it
was.
It
was
just
an
atrocity
that
people
were
out,
nobody
checked
on
them.
B
You
had
an
insurance
company
and
said:
oh,
do
you
want
us
to
see
why
they're
out?
Should
they
come
back
to
work?
Well,
geez,
yeah!
That's
your
job!
So
until
I
put
them
to
test
you
know
they
did
nothing
about
it.
So
now,
right
chief
back
me
up
now
I
get
them
back
to
work.
I
make
sure
that
we
keep
in
contact.
We
see.
What's
going
on,
you
can't
come
back
to
work,
we'll
try
to
do
light
duty.
B
H
F
I
have
a
question
on
this
for
both
of
you.
Actually,
if
the
administrative
assistant,
your
administrative
assistant,
if
you
I
I
realize
she'll,
be
working
directly
for
you,
but
she's
right
across
the
hall
from
you.
So
if
you
need
her
yeah,
why
does
that
leave
your
50
50
split?
Why
couldn't
it
be
like
30
hours,
10
hours,
so
are
you
getting
to
well
I'm
getting
to
if
the
whatever
job
needs
to
get
done?
That's
that's
her
role
as
an
administrative
assistant,
whether
it's
working
through
for
hr
or
for
working
for
a
town
manager.
B
C
G
Could
they
hear
everyone
else
talking
me?
They
can't
hear
the
personal
property
a
lot
of
the
returns
that
weren't
due
until
this
past
march
15th.
So
a
lot
of
that
has
to
be
accounted
for
going
through
the
ticks
it'll
take
another
month
to
do
that.
A
G
G
Well,
if
they
were
going
to
review
the
last
half
of
2017
sales,
they'll
have
to
review
all
of
the
2018
sales,
at
least
up
until
october
november.
At
that
time
they
have
to
go
out
and
any
new
construction.
That's
going
up
their
review.
We
send
out
income
and
expense
questionnaires
to
all
of
the
commercial
entities
that
has
to
all
be
reviewed.
G
C
G
A
G
He
works
anywhere
between
two
full
days,
one
one
and
a
half
to
two
four
days
a
week.
He'll
come
in
mornings
monday
through
thursday.
G
I
mean
he's
here
more,
you
know,
spend
a
little
more
time
during
the
busy
time
and
not
as
much
time
during
the
times
when
it's
slow
like
right
now
he's
doing
he'll
go
through
all
these
statements
that
are
coming
through.
So
he
spends
a
lot
more
time
here
this
time
of
year.
Some
are
not
so
much
but
then
late
fall.
G
G
G
Yeah,
I
know
one
gentleman's
been
there
for
a
while
the
only
ladies
she's
kind
of
new,
but
she
seemed
to
know
what's
going
on,
I
think
there's
one
opening
right,
yeah
there's
the
one
opening,
though
we
want
to
try
to
get
that
it's
been
advertised.
G
You
know
I
talked,
I
talked
to
him
and
asked
him.
You
know,
try
to
you,
know
an
appraiser
or
some
banking
business
or
anyone.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
anyone
from
centerville.
I
know.
C
C
A
A
27Th,
so
next
tuesday
is
we
have
our
council
meeting
tomorrow
night.
A
And
next
week,
six
o'clock
will
be
our
next
budget
here,
it'll
be
the
remaining
departments,
any
questions.