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A
B
C
Yes
again,
you
know
this
is
the
revised
budget
that
was
which
will
be
presented
to
the
voters,
if
approved
on
july
11th
for
the
referendum
and
it's
257
500
less
than
the
first
proposal.
C
And
when
you
look
at
the
revised
budget,
when
you
you
net
out
the
increases
from
state
aid
and
other
other
sources,
the
actual
increase
in
the
budget
is
about
1.6
percent
budgetary.
True
budgetary
impact.
C
From
the
recent
revaluation,
the
residential
tax
rate
was
estimated
to
decrease
17
percent,
two
family
non-owner,
13.1
percent
residential
commercial
properties
rate
down
fourteen
or
four
point
one
percent
and
a
multi-family,
the
that
would
be
decreased
by
twenty
five
point.
Two
percent
and
again
I
also
point
out
with
the
governor's
proposal
there
will
be
an
additional
thousand
dollar
exemption
for
motor
vehicles
and
that's
our
you
know,
current
rate
of
the
28
47.
C
So,
depending
on
how
many
cars
you
have,
you
will
have
that
reduction
as
well
as
the
taxable
value
for
the
vehicles,
which
is
at
90
percent,
will
drop
to
85
percent
of
the
full
value.
So
again,
if,
if
a
resident
hasn't
purchased
a
new
car,
the
same
existing
cars
they'll
be
getting
that
across
the
board
rate
of
the
28
47,
plus
a
a
depreciation
factor
of
five
percent.
C
You
know
from
the
taxes,
so
that's
something
that
will
be
occurring
as
a
result
of
the
state
action
and
I
believe
that
the
again
the
current
budget
that
has
been
submitted
retains
the
basic
programs
and
services
that
the
residents
currently
have.
D
So
I
apologize
for
being
a
few
minutes
late,
but
95
was
an
option.
295
is
an
absolute
mess,
so
I
I
have
a
couple
questions
ernie
just
to
clarify.
Yes,
I
know
in
one
of
the
cuts
that
was
made
was-
and
I
don't
have
this
right
in
front
of
me-
but
it
was.
It
was
a
hundred
thousand
for
the
opec.
Yes,
what
what
is
that
going
to
mean?
Does
that
mean
we
just
just
not
paying
that
portion
of
it
right.
C
Basically,
what
was
put
into
the
budget
was
a
contribution
to
the
trust
fund
of
250
000,
and
you
know
so
that
would
go
into
the
trust
fund
as
an
additional
revenue,
but
we
also
are
putting
a
large
increase
in
our
healthcare.
You
know
we
are
budgeting.
What
the
our
healthcare
advisor
has
said
to
budget,
which
is
approximately
a
20
increase,
and
these
are
the
rates
that
they've
estimated
through
their.
C
You
know
the
the
internal
service
funds,
so
in
essence,
if
we
have
a
good
year
that
reduction
can
be
offset
by
properly
budgeting
the
the
the
rates
which
we
haven't
done
and.
C
Well
again,
if
we
don't
have
a
good
year,
then
the
internal
service
fund,
you
would
have
a
deficit
for
the
fiscal
year
and
depending
upon
the
internal
service
fund
and
where
they
are
you'd,
have
to
take
funds
from
that
now,
if
the
retirees
which
is
the
largest
expense
growing
for
health
care,
if
if
we
have
a
deficit
or
whatever,
that
would
be
made
up
through
the
healthcare
trust
fund.
C
E
C
Yeah,
there
is
no
requirement
correct
that
there's
a
trust
fund
or
any
required
contribution.
Some
communities
have
trust
funds
that
it
says,
town
of
west
ward,
some
don't
and
some
just
pay
as
you
go
right
and
that
is
very,
very
common.
Even
with
the
trust
fund,
you
know
you
don't
have
to
pay
other.
B
C
D
Yes,
okay,
I
have
one
other
question
which
I
know
it's
a
different
budget,
but
it
all
ties
in
I'm
hoping
it
doesn't,
but
if
the
civic
center
does
not
produce
the
amount
of
revenue
to
cover
the
expenses,
whether
it's
three
thousand
a
hundred
thousand
whatever
it
is,
where
is
the
money
coming
from
to
cover
those
expenses?
Is
this
coming
out
of
our
is
coming
out
of
the
town
budget?
Correct?
Well,.
C
Again,
if
the
civic
center
is
trending
in
a
deficit
and
as
we
monitor
that
on
a
monthly
basis-
or
even
sooner
we'll
be
taking
a
look
at
that
and
look
at
what
reductions
we
can
make,
you
know
to
help
reduce
that.
But,
ultimately,
if
it's
the
deficit
and
the
internal
service
fund,
there
is
not
showing
a
a
positive
amount
which
it
isn't.
I
believe
I
don't
have
the
exact
number,
then,
ultimately
it
would
fall,
it
would
show
a
deficit,
so
your
internal
service
phone
would
show
a
deficit
amount.
C
The
money
would
come
from
the
ultimately
come
from
the
general
fund.
It
would
be
an
amount
due
from
the
civic
center
to
the
general
fund,
so
these
are
like
you
know,
due
to
due
fronts.
You
know
when
you
have
all
these
enterprise
funds
or
you
have
internal
service
funds
or
like
the
enterprise
from
the
civic
center.
C
C
C
The
the
the
town
is
in
a
process
of
building
back
its
its
reserves.
It's
you
know
it's
an
unassigned
fund
balance.
C
C
And
now
we
look
at
you
know
the
energy
fund,
which
we
now
with
with
a
consultant
that
appreciative
of
the
council
has
approved
to
bring
on
we're,
going
to
be
maximizing
any
additional
revenue
and
credits
to
bring
more
money
in
that
fund.
So
when
you
look
at
the
fiscal
picture,
you
know
if
you
all,
these
funds
are
doing
well
and
your
general
fund
is
progressing
you'll,
be
in
good
shape.
C
It'll
take
a
while
to
get
where
you
want
to
be
and
where
you
know,
fiscal
advisors
and
rating
agencies
say
you
need
to
be
but
you're
on
a
perfect,
a
good
track,
so
I
don't
foresee
a
situation
developing,
especially
if
it's
the
civics,
that
are
where
you
wouldn't
have
funds
to
pay.
Okay,
the
question
is
how,
when
can
the
civic
center
pay
back.
E
C
E
Give
them
a
loan
to
pay
their
bills,
but
they
owe
us
the
money
going
forward
and
it'd
be
incumbent
upon
us
to
take
a
close
look
at
that
budget
at
a
minimum
quarter
like
what
I
would
even
suggest
monthly.
So
we
know
where
we
stand
and
make
adjustments
as
necessary
during
the.
E
A
Anything
else
in
the
council
again
before
we
open
up
the
public
comment.
It
is
a
1.6
tax
increase,
as
the
town
manager
said,
anybody
who
owns
a
motor
vehicle
registered
in
the
town
of
west
wallach
should
see
a
reduction
of
at
least
28.47
per
vehicle
and
a
5
reduction
in
the
valuation.
A
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
Also
the
projected
tax
rate
for
a
single
family
is
going
to
be
22.57
per
thousand
based
upon
the
new
appraisals.
A
Then
you
have,
you
know
all
the
other
codes
in
there
too:
three
family,
six,
family
tangibles
so
again
focusing
on
single
family
2257
per
thousand.
If
anybody
else,
the
town
manager
also
gave
everybody
the
rates,
as
last
year,
fiscal
19,
which
was
27
18
per
thousand,
and
if
this
budget
passes
will
be
22.57
per
thousand
any
other
questions
from
the
council.
A
Budget,
it's
an
enterprise
fund,
so
that
has
its
own
budget.
She
presented
it
to
us
twice.
You
know
I
think
you
were
on
vacation,
actually
you're
at
that
racist
vacation.
The
last
time
it
was
proposed
so.
A
G
I
just
got
a
couple
of
questions
pertaining
to
what
mr
luchado
was
asking
as
far
as
the
money
from
opec.
G
If
you're
gonna
take
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
out,
okay,
I
mean
that's
like
having
a
bill,
so
in
other
words,
you're,
not
really
cutting
anything
you're,
just
not
going
to
pay
a
bill.
Is
that
correct?
It's.
A
It's
not
actual
bill,
we've
always
paid
as
you
go
and
like,
like
the
manager,
said
we're
paying
more
into
the
health
care
which
that's
what
it's
for
is
for
health
care
and
benefits
like
that.
C
The
there
is
funds
in
the
health
care
trusts.
G
G
A
E
G
C
G
G
B
C
C
G
G
C
C
It's
a
bad
year.
The
next
next
bill
is,
is
going
to
be
increase.
If
it's
lower,
the
state
is
close
or
whatever
so
all
depends
what
happens
during
that
year
and
it's
retroactive.
Okay,.
G
So
you
don't
know
I
mean
I
got
caught
with
twelve
thousand
dollars
at
the
end
of
the
year,
because
payroll
everything
fluctuates,
but
the
program
that
I'm
on
a
lot
of
guys
on
now
is
it's
taken
out
as
a
deduction
off
your
your
payroll
on
a
weekly
basis,
and
it
just
seems
to
make
more
sense.
That's
just
for
conversation
all
right
and
the
other
question
I
have
that
mr
charlie
brought
up
is
a
civic
center.
I
know
it's
a
separate
entity
last.
G
B
D
E
A
C
A
A
A
G
G
Okay,
at
what
point
do
you
say?
I
mean
if
I
was
running
my
fertilizer
operation,
it
wouldn't
go
on
no
more
than
three
years.
I
could
use
lose
one
year,
be
a
little
less
the
second,
but
if
this
thing
has
got
a
track
record
of
losing
weight
losing
money,
I
need
to
cut
my
losses,
so
you're
investing
roughly
six
to
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
money
to
lose
money.
H
E
I'm
a
business.
There
is
no
doubt
that
you
need
to
take
a
look
at
a
business
that
is
not
making
money
that
entity.
I
don't
believe,
will
ever
make
us
money.
It
would
be
wonderful.
I
think
we've
resigned
ourselves
to
a
break
even
at
this
point
in
time
and
going
in
and
looking
at
what
needs
to
be
done
to
fix
it
and-
and
you
have
to
talk
about
how
it's
set
up
and
and
those
discussions.
G
Are
ongoing?
There's
a
lot
of
complications,
you've
got
union
involvement
and
so
forth
right,
it's
very
complicated,
but
in
the
dire
straits
that
this
town
is
in.
Some
of
this
in
you
know,
you've
got
projected
revenue.
We
all
have
projected
revenue
okay,
but
the
projected
revenue
on
the
civic
center
has
already
proven
itself
to
be
in
the
negative
for
two
years,
so
I
can
project
that
I'm
going
to
do
1.7
million
dollars.
That's
easy!
I
just
write
that
down.
A
A
G
Big
thing,
but
if
you're
looking
at
a
business
model,
no
the
civic
center
conversation,
you
take
a
five-year
track
record.
Okay,
you
look
at
your
expenses,
you
look
at
your
income.
You
come
up
with
an
average
number
emotionally.
If
you've
got
a
track
record,
that
average
number
is
going
to
fall
into
place,
you
may
be
high,
some
yeah,
maybe
low,
but
you
got
a
running
number
that
you
know
you
can
almost
guarantee.
G
Okay,
I
don't
see
that
happening
here.
I
think
it's
a
crap
shoot
and
you
know
it's
it's
a
separate
entity
that
is
costing
the
town
money
there's
other
ones.
You
know
parks
and
recs,
which
I
won't
get
into
because
that's
my
business
and
I
don't
want
to
make
it
sound
like
I'm.
G
I
think
that
needs
to
be
totally
restructured
and
maybe
go
out
to
private
and
I'm
not
looking
for
the
work,
but
there's
numbers
in
there
that
I
know
the
business
have
been
doing
this
for
40
years.
Those
numbers
don't
make
sense
I'll.
Take
it
over
tomorrow
morning
for
the
numbers
you're
paying
over
there.
C
C
But
these
are
almost
like
a
public
good
public
service
to
the
community.
G
I
I
understand
the
service
part
of
it
for
the
kids
and
the
people
in
it
and
you're
right.
That's
that's
got
a
big
part
of
that
keep
re-evaluating.
But
going
back
to
what
you
were
saying,
I
have
a
client
that
has
a
major
size,
recreation
facility
in
quonset
point
and
also
in
north
smithfield,
rhode,
island,
okay,
they're
looking
to
expand
three
times
over
because
they
don't
have
enough
room
and
I
work
for
these
people.
These
guys
are
making
millions
of
dollars
so
a
fun
a
facility
of
that
nature.
G
Okay,
when
you
also
have
ice
time,
you
can't
get
ice
time
anywhere,
all
right
it
could
be
profitable,
but
I
think
and
there's
no
individuality
over
here-
I'm
just
talking
business.
I
don't
care
if
mickey
mouse
is
running.
Okay,
I've
seen
it
you
look
into
the
private
sector,
how
they
run
theirs,
because
it's
run
as
a
business.
It's
not
run
as
a
hobby
and
in
my
opinion,
if
we're
going
to
have
that,
as
that
should
be
generating
funds.
That's
the
purpose
of
it
is
to
be
on
the
plus
side,
not
the
negative
side.
G
H
G
G
Wind
turbine
thing,
you
know
I've
researched
it.
I
mean
we're
paying
a
lease
in
coventry.
The
numbers
in
that
doesn't
even
make
sense
to
me,
and
then
I
either
heard
on
the
meeting.
H
G
Somebody
somebody
piggybacked
it
on
their
back.
Exactly
it
should
have
been
dispersed
differently,
took
that
out
of
the
equation.
It
would
be
making
the
equation,
and
then
you
don't
even
own
this
stuff,
it's
all
leased
and
when
it's
I
mean
that's
another
nightmare,
I
see
coming
down
the
road
and
the
credits
which
I
don't
understand
at
all
ernie
was
it
200
000
credits
on
the
wind
turbine.
C
G
D
D
C
A
G
G
G
My
only
concern
was,
I
don't
see
any
real
physical
cuts,
all
right,
you're
not
going
to
pay
a
certain
amount
for
that
opec,
okay,
but
and
the
workman's
comp-
and
he
said-
maybe
it
will-
maybe
it
won't-
there's
no
defined
actual
dollar
amounts,
except
for
fifteen
thousand
five
thousand.
We
will
see
that.
Let
me
get
the
bubble
wrap.
G
H
G
You've
also
got-
and
I
I
agree-
they
should
just
know
that
you're
going
to
be
giving
out
raises
this
year.
Okay!
Well,
I
don't
know
where
that
money's
been
banked,
and
you
know
just
say
it's
400
500
000
that
that's
a
a
gross
number
but
when
you
add
all
the
payroll
load
and
everything
to
it,
that
number
grows
and
from
that
period
you're
going
into
this
next
year,
maybe
next
year
and
last
night
you
said
about
the
school,
they
understand
the
schools
can't
be
touched.
G
I
get
that,
but
they
already
told
you
they're
coming
for
you
for
next
month
money
next
year.
So
if
I
was
in
business
I'm
going
to
think
about,
I
know
I
got
more
debt
coming
to
me
next
year.
I
need
to
consider
this
instead
of
next
year
say:
oh,
they
need
a
million
dollars.
We
didn't
think
about.
Where
is
this
coming
from?
Well.
A
G
And
I'm
not
picking
on
school,
I
got
grandkids
in
school,
my
kids
went
to
school,
it's
not
you,
I'm
talking
business,
that's
all
I'm
doing
is
talking
flat
out
business.
If
I
know
next
year
I
gotta
buy
three
excavators.
I'm
I
gotta
do
this.
Okay,
I
can't
go
on
about
my
business
this
year
and
hope
that
I
got
the
money
next
year.
I
gotta
start
thinking
about.
What's
coming
down
the
road
and.
H
E
G
F
Bert
monahan
monterey
drive,
mr
president,
that
gentleman
hit
the
nail
right
on
the
head.
I
was
a
business
man
here
for
20
years
and
I
know
exactly
what
he's
talking
about,
and
I've
lived
here
for
48
years
and
that
civic
center
from
day
one
has
been
a
it's
been
a
nightmare
for
us,
and
I've
watched
many
many
councils,
just
like
yourself
struggling
with
that
problem,
and
it
is
a
problem
it
and
I
hope
it
can
be
resolved
somewhere
in
some
place.
F
A
I
could
tell
you
right
now:
it
was
probably
on
both
sides,
the
town
in
the
lee
see
that
was
not
a
good
relationship.
We
were
bad
landlords
and
they
were
bad
tenants,
plain
and
simple
yeah.
A
E
A
E
E
F
You
know,
maybe,
if
you
appointed
somebody
on
the
console
who
was
a
businessman
or
get
some
business
people
that
are
interested
in
it,
that
you
know
to
help
you
people
out
on
something
like
that,
and
I
understand
the
business
concept
because
I
was
successful
in
what
I
did
and
I
I
want
to
point
out.
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
good
idea
or
not,
but
I
want
to
put
it
before
the
board.
F
E
A
Again,
we'll
have
to
check
that
system
make
sure
it's
working.
The
school
department
can
also
use
this
robocall.
They
have
a
separate
system
that
they
used
and
we
talked
about
using
the
traffic
sign
to
put
out
aeronautic
to
say
you
know,
the
ninth
is
the
financial
time
meeting
the
11th
is
the
vote.
Also,
the
one
thing
I'm
going
to
stress
because
and
again
I
didn't
see
it.
I
know
councilman
d'amico
showed
it
to
me.
He
got
a
text
saying
dog
licenses
in
town
financial
meeting
at
that
point.
Dog
licenses
are
not
an
issue.
A
F
A
A
And
actually
last
year's
budget
as
far
as
rates
and
this
year's,
and
that
should
be
on
some
sort
of
billboard
where
people
go
in
to
look
and
vote
that
day
also
so
that
way
there
they
could
see
it
and
say:
okay,
because
some
of
the
individuals
that
came
to
us
at
the
last
council
meeting
we
had
at
the
civic
center
for
the
second
amendment
meeting
that
some
individuals
came
up
to
us
and
said:
oh
I'm
seeing
the
thousand
dollar
increase
or
whatever.
A
F
You
know
another
good
thing
to
publish
like
like
when
I
first
got
my
tax
bill.
I
think
my
house,
my
valuation,
went
up
40
or
45
that
was
about
35,
40
000
and
then
come
to
find
out
after
I
went
on
the
internet.
Most
of
the
houses
did
go
up
between
35
and
45
000,
and
I
I
think
that
should
be
published
too.
Yes,
because
that
was
the
average.
I
think
that
was
at
least
in
my
area
that
was
the
average.