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A
A
B
A
All
right
I'll
start
off,
obviously
we're
here.
For
one
reason:
the
budget
got
voted
down.
A
Whatever
else
we've
had
conversations,
I
think
individually,
the
town
manager,
I'm
not
sure
who,
but
I
know
I've
had
conversation.
I
know
councilman
damico's
had
conversations
so
we're
here
tonight
to
start
all
over.
Basically,
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
the
tax
increase
was
not
a
3.9
percent
tax
increase,
which
a
lot
of
people
who
voted
thought
that
it
was
actually
a
1.7
tax
increase
and
again
1.7
means
out
of
100
million
dollar
budget.
It's
not
rocket
science,
it's
1.7
million
dollars.
A
If
you
want
to
go
to
zero
or
even
less,
but
that's
up
to
the
council,
there
will
be
some
tough
decisions,
I'm
sure,
to
make
now
the
budget's
gone,
I
will
say,
could
get
voted
down
again,
could
get
voted
up?
Who
knows
so,
mr
manager,
you
want
to
give
an
update.
C
C
The
budget
as
presented,
maintain
the
current
services
that
the
public
currently
expects
and
has
but
being
there,
given
that
you
know
the
republic
did
vote
down
the
budget,
but
don't
know
why
I
mean
what
individuals
were
thinking
for
individual
decisions,
but
that's
what
the
decision
was
so
now
we
go
forward
with
the
task
ahead
of
us
and
again
as
we
look
at
the
budget,
then
we
have
to
remember
that
the
school
department
budget
is
not
a
factor
in
this
equation.
They
are
level
funded
with
their
local
appropriation.
C
So
you
know
they
are.
You
know
not
part
of
the
production
process
based
water
treatment
facility
plant
is
not
because
it's
an
enterprise
fund
as
well
as
a
civic
center,
although
a
few
small
elements
are
in
general
government,
but
the
vast
majority
of
expenses
in
the
civic
center
are
as
an
enterprise
fund
and
as
we
move
forward
again,
we
look
at
the
budget,
the
construct
of
the
budget.
C
C
So
again,
when
we
look
at
the
budget,
the
the
place
that
we
normally
look
at
is
services,
commodities,
capital
equipment,
staffing
levels
and
again
these
items
reflect
some
result
of
affecting
programs
or
services.
So
you
can.
The
trick
is
to
try
to
minimize
those
disruptions
of
services
that
we
have
currently.
C
So
with
that
you
know
I've
gone
through
the
budget
with
some
assistance
and
directors.
I
know
the
council,
has
you
know
your
issues
as
well,
so
at
this
point
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
the
chair.
A
Any
questions
from
the
council,
I
want
to
ask
how
you
want
I'll:
ask
the
council
how
you
want
to
handle
this.
We
can
go
to
probably
about
that
by
department
or
if
you
have
ideas
already
written
down,
we
can
avoid
all
that
and
we
can
stop
looking
at
if
we've
got
a
cup
or
however,
I
know
there's
been
some
conversation
as
to
whether
or
not
this
was
a
financially
responsible
budget,
and
I
think
I
think
we
can
agree
in
some
aspects
that
it
was.
A
It
was
very
financially
responsible.
We
corrected
the
health
care
issues
that
were
improperly
budgeted
healthcare
going
up,
900
000,
that's
something
that
we
could
not
avoid
out
of
that
1.7.
I
just
want
to
point
out
the
key
factors:
900
change
of
health
care,
300
and
something
thousand
for
contract
negotiations
and
what
we
were
figuring
as
a
council
and
as
a
group
of
what
that's
going
to
cost
us
with
the
new
contracts.
A
F
Well
I'll
start,
first
of
all,
when
we
went
through
the
process,
you
know
we
talked
about
nickel
and
diming.
We
talked
about.
You
know
how
it
feels
feels
like
it's
somewhat
bare
bones.
You
know
we
go
through
every
line.
Many
times
we
eliminate
everything
we
can.
We
know
that
we
have
contracts
in
place.
We
know
that
we
have
contract
negotiations.
F
We
know
that
we
don't
want
to
touch
things
like
oped.
We
might
need
to.
We
know
that
we
can
probably
use
more
positions
within
fire
within
police,
but
instead,
we'll
probably
have
to
cut
positions,
maybe
parks
and
rec.
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
have
a
couple
ideas
places
we
could
cut,
but
I
I
feel
like
we
didn't,
do
a
very
good
job
in
getting
the
word
out
as
far
as
what
we
had
done
and
making
people
aware
of
the
process-
and
you
know
the
reality
of
the
current
budget.
F
I
think
you
know
we
had
such
a
small
turnout
and
there
was
another
campaign
to
vote
down
the
budget,
which
is
a
campaign
that
has
essentially
been
you
know,
run
for
several
years
and
this
year
they
were
successful.
I
think
it's
a
shame.
I
think
it's.
You
know
that
we're
gonna
have
to
cut
into
a
budget
that
we
already
took
so
much
time
to
go
through
and
to
figure
out
I
mean
the
managers
made
some.
F
D
I
just
don't
think
you
can
have
it
both
ways.
You
can't
maintain
all
the
services
you
have
and
still
make
cuts.
It's
just
not
it's
not
possible.
So
people
say
there's
things
we
can
cut
yeah.
There
is,
but
there's
going
to
be
services
you're
going
to
lose.
I
mean
that's
the
fact,
no
matter
what
we
cut
certain
things
we're
going
to
lose
certain
services
for
the
most
part,
we're
not
talking
about
like
papers
and
pencils.
B
B
B
There
are
not
a
lot
of
frills,
it
is
personnel
costs,
basically
that
we're
talking
about
that
are
increasing
here.
There
are
a
couple
of
things
and
in
ernie.
Thank
you
for
forwarding
your
thoughts.
I
know
you
have
had
conversations
with
people.
B
B
A
B
Even
close
to
that
so
and
and
in
fact,
we
have
in
years
past
cut
into
that
quite
significantly,
so
again
being
fiscally
responsible.
D
E
I've
made
a
list
of
some
different
things.
I
proposed
some
at
the
before
the
first
vote,
which
I
still
think
their
options.
E
I
didn't
look
at
this
as
a
number
to
find
a
number,
whether
it's
200
000
or
a
million
dollars,
but
I
did
go
through
the
budget
again
and
and
did
some
trimming
and
I
think
any
suggestion
that
we
that
we
make
here
tonight
there's
going
to
be
an
effect
on
it.
There's
no
question
whether
it's
outside
of
of
personnel
or
it
is
personnel,
but
we
just
can't
handle
the
same
budget.
It's
just
going
to
go
down
again
and
we're
going
to
be
back
at
square
one
for
the
third
time.
E
D
F
F
F
D
I
think
and
educating
them.
However,
people
want
to
vote,
that's
their
choice,
but
I
think
at
least
if
they
have
factual
facts
when
they're
going
to
vote,
I
mean
just
like
david
said:
with
people
thought
it
was
a
3.9
percent
as
it
close
to
a
1.7.
That's
a
big
difference
and
letting
them
know
the
facts.
However,
they
vote
they
vote
for
the
people
to
determine
at
that
point,
but
right
at
least
they
have
factual
information.
B
Well,
I
think
some
of
the
suggestions
that
the
town
manager
has
made
makes
sense.
I
think
it
when
you,
you
say
you
you're
not
going
to
replace
desktops
in
the
police
department.
Those
are
things
that
will
need
to
be
replaced.
They
will
they're
they're
outdated,
but
maybe
next
year
or
or
if
it
can
be
funded
through
courts.
I
mean
that
that
kind
of
stuff
make
the
things
that
you
talked
about.
Jay.
You
talked
about
the
mueller
and
you.
A
Well,
I'll
tell
you,
you
know
through
the
rumor
mill,
you
know,
people
have
come
and
said
to
me:
oh
hey,
you
got
to
cut
dpw
and
then
you
go
and
the
consoles
never
met.
So
again,
I
I
don't
know
where
that
came
from
you
know.
Tom
manager
might
have
said
something
because
it
came
from
a
department
head
whatever.
H
A
A
I've
seen
how
many
people
come
in
per
day,
it's
on
average,
between
seven
and
12,
guys
per
day
that
we're
working
down
at
dpw,
so
we're
gonna
cut
it
down
to
what
seven
guys
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
everybody's
starting
to
get
hurt
because
they're
over
exhausted
they're
over
worked
whatever
it
may
be.
There
goes
your
workers
comp
claims.
A
A
That
florida
goes
to
lunch.
The
same
time.
The
other
departments
go
to
lunch.
If
the
the
tax
assessor's
office
goes
to
lunch.
The
door's
closed
to
me
that
float
is
put
in.
This
is
what
myself
councilman
giroux
and
other
councilmen
brought
that
floater
on
for
was
because
we
have
offices
with
one
p
one
person
in
them,
which
would
be
the
tax
assessor,
the
building
official,
no
offense
to
the
finance
department,
but
there's
six
to
eight
people
down
there
working
and
when
the
tax,
assessor
or
the
building
official's
office
goes
to
lunch.
A
That
floater
should
be
in
one
of
those
offices,
and
those
offices
should
not
be
closed.
I
don't
know
I
was
in
here
a
few
weeks
ago.
I
was
here
for
an
hour.
Three
people
came
into
the
clerk's
office
realtors
and
whatever
else
trying
to
find
out
how
to
get
information
on
households
and
on
homes
and
whatever
sorry
they
closed
to
come
back
later.
Well,
then
there
was
other
stuff
going
on
negotiations
union
stuff.
That
office
was
closed
for
almost
two
and
a
half
hours,
but
no
fl
florida
was
nowhere
to
be
found.
A
The
florida
wasn't
upstairs
or
downstairs
they
were
downstairs
where
most
of
the
employees
are
and
and
the
general
public
wasn't
getting
affected.
So,
in
my
opinion,
efficiencies
you
know,
dave
has
come
to
us
and
brought
the
fact
that
dpw
drives
from
that
side
of
town
to
go
back
to
dpw
to
take
lunch.
He
brought
that
up
at
one
of
the
meetings
here.
That's
those
are
the
efficiency
people
going
to
understand.
We
got
to
work
together,
or
else
we
will
lose
positions.
A
A
C
C
That
would
require
efficiencies
can
be
made,
but
they
will
be
resulting
in
violations
of
contracts
that
we
are
negotiating
now.
I
agree
completely
if
things
are
done
more
efficiently,
reorganization,
yes,
this
town
will
run
very
well.
Services
will
be
delivered
to
the
public
that
they
expect
on
a
timely
basis,
and
I
agree
with
this.
Management
has
a
responsibility
to
ensure
how
we
operate,
but
there
are
restrictions
that
prevent
us
from
operating
to
the
type
of
maximum
efficiency
that
we
would
want
as
managers.
So
I
agree
with
you:
efficiencies
need
to
be
made.
C
A
Again,
efficiency
and
accountability,
I
mean
you
have
you
know,
there's
stuff
out
there
that
needs
to
be
addressed
and
fixed
and
it's
not
fixed,
and
it's
not-
and
it's
not
fair
to
us
as
a
council
that
you
have
employees
who
may
not
be
doing
their
job,
but
because
they
got
seniority,
they
don't
care
because
they
know
they're,
not
the
ones
going.
If
we
make
cuts,
it's
the
new
hires
who
are
doing
might
be
doing
a
great
job.
A
A
And
the
top
usually
never
get
affected,
it's
the
bottom
10
that
get
affected
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
it
becomes
a
giant
bump
in
process
and
a
zoo.
Once
you
make
one
position
cut
and
that's
the
that's.
What
a
lot
of
people
don't
realize
you
can
get
rid
of
two
maintenance
guns:
okay,
all
of
a
sudden,
it
becomes
a
bump
in
process
because
they
got
seniority.
Are
they
even
qualified
to
go
into
that
position?
A
Are
they,
but
because
of
the
seniority
they
have
the
right
to
so
again,
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
to
the
council
that
you
know
you
could
sit
there
and
say:
let's
get
rid
of
parks
and
rec.
Let's
get
rid
of
this.
Let's
get
rid
of
that.
All
of
a
sudden.
A
You
got
a
20
30
year,
employee,
coming
into
a
clerk's
office,
saying
I
want
to
be
the
deputy
clerk
and
bump
the
deputy
clerk
out
and
then
bump
this
one
out
and
also
you've
got
a
whole
new
town
hall
people
who
don't
know
the
job.
Yet
I
mean
right
now.
I
think
a
lot
of
our
employees
have
been
where
they
are
for
many
years.
A
Think
about
it.
The
tax
assessor's
office
been
there
for
many
years,
knows
what
they're
doing
runs
efficient.
They
build
an
official's
office.
One
person
in
there
with
a
floater,
it's
been
there
for
many
years,
runs
efficient,
the
clerk's
office,
the
finance,
the
clerk's
office,
seen
one
or
two
new
bodies.
Within
the
last
six
years,
finance
has
seen
one
or
two
new
bodies
over
the
last
years,
but
they
have
so
much
knowledge
and
runs
of
fishing.
A
H
G
G
A
That
you
can
look
at,
but
I
mean
you
got
guys
leaving
because
of
pay.
You
got
guys
leaving
because
of
different
reasons.
I
mean
me
dave.
I
feel
sorry
for
you
because
you're
down
to
22-
and
you
got
these
seven
guys
in
here-
I
mean
how
can
you,
how
can
you
run
a
town?
How
can
you
do
street
sweeping
pick
up
yard
waste
pick
up,
vault
keep
the
town
looking
clean
with
seven
to
ten
guys.
D
C
C
You
know
we
have
to
abide
by
and
are
governed
by
these
provisions
and
they
have
been
in
effect
a
long
long
time
and
I'm
sure
the
issues
you're
talking
about
probably
go
back
to
when
you
started
on
the
council.
Some
of
these
issues.
I
realized
that
I
realized
this
management's
responsibility
to
maximize
what
we
have
and
how
we
have
the
work
and
again
that
that's
what
we
try
to
do
and
that's
what
our
responsibility
is
at
times
it
is
very
difficult
at
times
it
being
border
are
impossible,
but
we
do
it.
C
G
E
I
went
small
and
then
I
went,
and
these
are
just
suggestions-
it's
it's
not
anything,
obviously
set
in
stone.
You
know
on
my
end,
but
it's
just
different
things.
I
thought
about
I'm
still
going
to
stick
to
a
part-time
hr
director.
E
C
C
Employees
were
out
sick,
reviewing
their
cases
for
medical
cases,
making
sure
that
appropriate
paperwork
is
owned
from
medical
providers,
reviewing
benefits
with
new
employees,
assisting
with
paperwork
for
new
employees,
health
care
updates
and
changes
in
random
drug
testing.
That's
done
by
personnel
and
again
something
has
been
done.
C
Everything
now
is
generally
done
by
by
certified
letter
rather
than
emails,
the
appropriate
way
to
do
things,
proctoring
tests
for
police
and
fire
and
other
departments
and
scheduling
and
proctoring
those
assisting
and
agility
tests,
and
things
of
that
nature
looking
to
review
and
make
sure
any
new
employees
have
background
checks,
cdl
licenses,
those
are
by
the
departments,
but
personnel
should
have
copies
to
ensure
compliance.
That's
what
we're
doing
now.
Eeo
reporting
1095
reporting
for
healthcare
insurance
reports
filing
crop
cleanse
the
trust
that.
B
But
again
we
got
more,
but
that
makes
a
point
and-
and
you
talk
about
efficiencies,
clearly
we're
not
being
efficient
with
the
town
manager's
time.
If
he's
doing
that,
and
my
understanding
is
from
various
departments
that
the
response,
time
and
effort
needed
within
the
departments,
because
we
don't
have
someone
in
that
position
at
this
point-
makes
all
the
departments
less
efficient.
So
I
think.
A
It
clear
that
we
cut,
we
cut
a
part
timer
right
out
of
that.
He
actually
had
another
whole
body
in
there
right
now
right,
and
we
said
you
know,
I
brought
it
up.
We
had
one
person
in
that
role
for
many
years,
whether
it
was
union
or
non-union,
that's
another
whole
story
and
that
one
person
did
it
for
all
those
years.
So
if
we
have
the
proper
person
in
there
doing
the
job,
we
should
be
able
to
do
so
now.
C
A
We
agree
with
you
as
more
more
than
anything
I
mean
I
I've
always
been
a
proponent
of
hr,
because
I've
been
here.
I've
been
here
where
the
council
had
to
make
try
to
make
decisions
when
the
town
manager
brings
us
an
employee
map
and
all
of
a
sudden
we're
the
bad
guys,
because
we
we
didn't
make
that
decision,
we
talked
about
it,
but
we
gave
the
guidance
to
the
town
manager
now
we're
the
bad
guys.
A
A
I
was
told
one
employee
was
such
a
bad
employee,
but
then
a
new
director
comes
in
and
says
that's
one
of
my
hardest
working
employees.
It's
amazing
what
you
hear
from
different
people
from
different
aspects.
So
again,
as
a
council
person,
we,
I
don't
be
part
of
hr.
I
don't
think
you
should
be
part
of
hr.
A
The
only
thing
is,
you
should
have
somebody
you
could
talk
to
and
go
back
and
forth,
and
I
think
every
department
head
should
have
somebody
they
should
be
able
to
vote
and
talk
to
and
get
the
laws
and
get
those
rectified
because,
as
a
department
head
they're
dealing
with
the
matter
and
they
might
like
that
person,
they
may
dislike
that
person.
Now
you've
got
a
totally
different
attitude.
A
You
have
two
people
doing
the
same
exact
thing
you
might
not
like
that
person,
so
I'm
gonna
hold
that
guy
more
accountable
than
this
guy
and
you're
gonna
have
issues
and
that's
happened.
So
I
I
believe
in
wholeheartedly.
We
need
an
hr
person
full
time
one.
I
don't
think
we
need
two.
I
don't
think
we
need
three.
I
think
we
need
one
and
that's
just
my
opinion
again.
G
E
Our
contribution
to
to
nonprofits
not.
E
E
B
B
B
G
E
I
also
went,
I
went
big
as
a
suggestion
which
just
the
thought:
what
would
it
cost
to
privatize
parks
and
rec
rough
idea?
Yeah.
E
I
mean
that
should
be
on
a
schedule
to
do
and
it
seems
to
me
and
that
we're
taking
care
of
mccarthy
field,
that's
the
primary.
If
we're
going
to
hire
grounds
crew
for
mccarthy
field,
then
that's
what
we
should
do,
because
there's
been
issues
in
natick
there's
issues
at
flat.
Top
there's
issues
in
crompton,
so
I'm
looking
at
120
hours
a
week
to
do
what
mega
picks
up
our
trash.
E
So
it's
basically
cut
brass.
I'm
not
saying
they're
not
doing
a
good
job,
but
I
think
when
you're
looking
at
essentials
and
you're
looking
at
efficiency,
I
don't
know
why
things
aren't
being
done.
That
should
just
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
do.
We
shouldn't
be
paying
people
to
fix
mounds
during
a
baseball
game
or
to
watch
a
baseball
game.
H
H
We
are
now
now
if
a
tournament
comes
into
town
now
and
they
request
having
someone
there
from
the
town
to
tend
to
their
every
need.
We
put
a
price
on
that
now
and
they
have
to
pay.
They
have
to
pay
with
that
employee
across
the
town.
They
have
to
write
a
check
when
they
book
the
field,
so
we
started
doing
that
now.
So
if
you
see
a
person
at
a
game
during
a
tournament
that
person
is
being
paid
for
by
the
person
sponsoring
the
tournament
we
we
just
started
doing
that.
H
We
went
to
personnel
and
I
said
what
does
it
cost
for
this
employee
on
overtime
period
and
that's
what
we
did.
They
will
pay
that
hourly
rate,
so
we
are
doing
that
now
back
to
a
comment
that
councilman
council
president
gosling
said
it's
very
tough
to
be
efficient
here
when
I
came
here
that
department
was
going
through
an
enormous
amount
of
overtime
every
year
we
scale
that
back
along
with
public
works,
enormous
amount
of
overtime,
so
we
are
trying
to
run
it
more
efficiently.
H
I
can
tell
you
last
year
the
line
item
in
public
works
for
overtime
was
over
by
twenty
thousand
dollars.
It's
going
to
be
under
this
year
coming
into
the
end
of
this
budget,
so
we
are
starting
there
every
day
when
we
get
to
work
before
you
can
pick
up
a
pen
and
schedule
a
day
in
public
works,
we're
out
nine
people.
H
Three
on
injury.
Three
are
bit
out
of
the
department,
they
get
the
bid
out
of
the
department
and
we
have
to
hold
their
job
while
they're
holding
jobs
somewhere
else,
and
then,
of
course,
we
can't
hire
without
a
cdl.
There's
three
openings:
we're
having
a
hard
time
hiring
somebody
else,
a
cdl
two
of
those
employees
are
in
parks
and
recreation.
H
Now,
if
they
they're
entitled
to
their
time
off,
they
have
vacation
time
sick
time
they
take
a
day
off.
We
don't
send
anyone
else
over
there.
We
don't
have
anyone
to
send
over
there
what
happens
over
time
so
yeah.
It's!
It's
you're
constantly
chasing
your
tail
here.
Another
thing
that
the
contract
prohibits
us
from
doing.
If
we
have
a
project
to
do
on
a
field
somewhere,
I'm
not
allowed
to
take
public
works
workers
and
go
over
and
help
out
with
that
project.
That's
a
no-no.
H
Can't
work
in
someone
else's
department,
you'll
get
a
grievance
for
it.
You
know
these
are
the
things
we're
up
against.
You
know
we
are
in
contract
negotiations.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
talk
about
that
too
much.
But
you
know
these.
H
This
is
what
we're
up
against
so
parks
and
rec
is
a
problem
since
we
cut
the
overtime
yeah,
not
as
much
as
getting
done
over
there
now,
for
some
reason
haven't
been
able
to
put
my
finger
on
it
yet,
but
we're
trying,
but
as
far
as
privatizing
it
I
couldn't
tell
you
what
it
would
cost
to
privatize
it,
not
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
couldn't.
E
C
Well,
one
thing
in
that
vein
may
be
worth
considering
and
again.
I
believe
the
contract
has
a
privatization,
privatization
clause
in
it
or
anti-prioritization
clause
in
it.
But
you
know
in
in
other
communities
many
communities,
the
leagues
maintain
fields,
they
use
all
the
time,
they're
leased
to
the
league
for
a
dollar
a
year
or
some
minimal
fee,
and
they
take
care
of
the
inner
inner
maintenance.
H
H
I
sent
one
of
my
management
people
over
just
throw
out
three
bases
and
leave
a
rake
for
the
coach
bang
grievance
the
thing
I'm
finding
in
this
community.
I
know
I'm
from
outside
this
community,
but
there's
no
teamwork
here.
Nobody
wants
to
work
together.
Nobody's
there.
How
can
there
be
grievances
because
nobody,
there
was
a
grievance?
H
G
A
E
But
they
also
took
care
of
five
times
the
amount
of
of
property,
whether
it's
building
or
fields
and
I'm
not
gonna.
It's
not
fair
to
compare
nope
it's
and
I
don't
want
to
compare
that's
not
right,
but
I
think
there's
an
issue
here
where
we
have
120
man
hours
a
week
and
we're
cutting
fields,
and
it
doesn't
seem
like
there's
room
for
little
things
that
need
to
get
done,
whether
they're
not
being
done
or
it's.
E
H
Just
let
me
say
we,
we
do
only
have
three
people
in
boxer
wreck,
usually
one,
but
for
the
summer
we
have
three
again
they
go
on
vacation,
they
get
sick.
So
it
is
a
lot
to
do
for
three
people.
I'll
say
that
if
we
had
the
ability,
when
I
have
my
department
of
public
works
at
full
strength,
to
send
a
few
guys
down,
hey
go,
throw
some.
You
know.
Councilman
with
charity
call
go
throw
some
baskets
on
there
for
them.
I
don't
have
that
ability
to
do
that
without
getting
agreements.
H
I
just
don't
have
that
ability
it's
crazy.
It
would
work
so
much
better
if
we
were
able
to
do
that.
There
are
things
we
can
help
out
with
we're
just
not
allowed
to
do
that
for
some
reason.
So,
but
yes,
this
department
of
public
works,
it's
only
three
people
and
they
do
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
they
do
a
good
job
of
what
they
do.
Could
it
be
better?
Absolutely
it
could
be
better,
but
we
need
to
work
more
as
a
team.
Here
too.
H
G
A
A
We
want
to
make
sure
that
when
people
walk
in
the
front
wall
or
a
real
estate,
agent
comes
in
that
that
office
is
open
and
that
person
has
the
right
there's
only
one
person
in
office
beside
and
tony
two
really
but
one
town
employee,
and
they
have
the
right
to
go
to
lunch.
They
have
the
right
to
take
vacation.
The
florida
needs
to
be
utilized
for
that
the
same
thing
with
build
an
official
office.
There
should
not
be
a
close,
be
back
this.
You
know
I
go
back
to.
A
I
call
it
butterville,
because
that's
the
last
time
I
saw
that
closed,
be
back
at
two
and
I
was
on
a
storefront
in
borough.
That's
when
I
walked
in
here
one
day
and
I
see
close,
be
back
at
such
and
such
an
hour
and
people
people
come
in
here.
Where
expect
that's,
why
we
put
that
quarter
in
place,
so
I
kind
of
renege
on
my
florida
position.
I
want
to
say
that
we
need
to
utilize
it.
A
We
do
need
it,
because
we
have
many
offices
with
one
person
in
it
and
when
there
and
again
no
offense
to
finance,
but
if
there's
five
or
six
people
down
there
and
a
resident
comes
down
there,
they
can
answer
questions.
If
the
tax,
assessor
or
the
building
official's
office
closed.
There's
no.
The
door
can't
answer
a
question
and
that's
why
I
still
say
we
need
to
utilize
that
floater.
They
should
not
be
going
to
lunch
together.
They
that
that
one
of
those
officers
should
always
be
open.
A
D
A
The
only
other
one
that
I
had
in
here
and
it's
only
part
time
because
half
of
it's
at
the
civic
center
was
the
parks
and
rec
secretary
position,
because
we
went
years
without
it
and
all
of
a
sudden.
We
now
have
it.
So
that's
my
only
two
things
that
I
had
as
far
as
personnel
but
iv
neg
on
the
on
the
floater.
I
just
think
it
needs
to
be
better
utilized.
The.
D
A
F
So
what
do
you
do
so?
I
had
based
on
some
of
the
managed
recommendations
based
on
conversations
we
had
the
personal
personnel
training
5000.
F
I
don't
think
we
would
call
all
of
opec,
but
if
we
cut
a
hundred
thousand,
the
workers
comp
is
giving
us
back
50
000
right
that
was
over
budget.
Is
that
correct?
If
we
cut
the
council
contribution
of
10
000,
I
had
the
floater
in
there
for
34
000..
F
F
You
know
we
have
to
consider
or
anticipate
the
contract
negotiations
and
the
cost
of
that
I
feel,
like
you,
know,
cut
two
hundred
thousand
and
drop
it
to
one
point:
five
percent
and
go
back
to
the
people
and
explain
it
to
them
and
say
look.
This
is
what
you're
actually
voting
on.
D
G
D
D
A
Just
want
to
make
sure
the
health
care
costs
going
up,
900
000,
don't
think
the
town
employees
don't
see
an
increase
because
they're
paying
a
percentage
of
their
health
care,
so
they
are
seeing
the
increase.
Also,
it's
it's
not
a
flat
rate.
I
want
to
make
that
clear.
A
lot
of
people
thought
that
town
employees
still
pay
a
flat
rate.
It's
not
it's.
Based
on
percentage.
Am
I
correct.
C
Right
depending
upon
what
what
union
it
is,
what
they
have.
There
are
maximum
levels
for
municipal
there
are
none
foreign
police
and
fire
for
the
healthmate
coast
to
coast.
That
is
the
most
expensive
plan
police
on
fire.
I
believe
pay,
20
percent
of
can
be
wrong
of
the
premium
costs,
and
this
ball
pays.
If
you
have
health
to
make
those
goals,
they
pay
an
amount.
But
there
is
a
a
cap
based
upon
the
salary
of
the
employee.
A
And
again,
you
know
when
police
fire
municipals
are
paying
a
percentage
when
the
health
care
goes
up,
and
that
was
one
thing
the
council
did
years
ago
in
the
last
couple
of
contract
negotiations
was
get
a
tour
percentage.
That
way
there.
We
didn't
have
to
come
back
and
fight
about
every
increase
in
every,
because
I
know
the
first
couple
of
contracts
were.
Oh,
we
got
to
pay
more
at
the
health
care
and
councilman
I'll
give
councilman
kelsey.
A
A
You
know
so,
unless
you're
going
to
cut
1.7
to
make
a
difference,
10
000
isn't
going
to
make
a
difference.
In
my
eyes,
I
think
you
get
the
same
vote
same
vote
out
there
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
right
now.
I
think
I
said
it
publicly
start
cutting
all
the
positions,
the
people
that
were
actually
for
the
budget
probably
go
against
the
budget,
so
you're
going
to
be
voting
down
again.
D
A
Throwing
a
number
out
there!
Well,
if
you
cut,
if
you
cut
police
and
fire
okay
you're
going
to
cut
it
here,
but
you
also
remember
one
thing:
if
there's
somebody
in
that
position,
you're
paying
their
unemployment,
so
you're,
not
saving
money,
that
unemployment
saving
you're
going
to
take
that
then
you're
going
to
also
increase
your
overtime,
because
the
minimum
means
you're.
D
Or
if
you
get
to
a
point
where,
where
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
year-
and
you
have-
and
I
know
this
is
a
possibility
that
you
have
some
police
officers
and
firefighters
that
decide
to
retire
and
then
you
have
between
the
two
of
them.
You
have
like
16,
open
positions,
I
mean,
then
what
are
you
doing?
You're
paying
overtime
for
those
and
it
takes
over
a
year
to
get
a
new
police.
D
I
don't
know
how
long
the
process
is
for
firefighters,
but
what's
the
time
frame
I
mean
it's
a
while
before
you
get
before
you
fill
those
positions,
so
you're
not
really
saving
money,
you're
cutting
money
and
you're
still
you're
paying
the
same
money
anyway.
But
then
you
have
less
experienced
people
in
those
positions,
so
you're
not
you're,
not
gaining
anything
from
it.
B
C
C
C
D
G
G
C
C
So
if
there's
a
vacant
position,
you
know
there
would
be
a
request
to
fill
that
at
the
earliest
opportunity
for
police
and
fire.
There
are
time
frames,
but
the
reality
is
they
have
to
go
to
academies
with
police
and
fire
go
through
that
program,
pass
the
program
and
then
have
a
field
training
locally
here.
So
that
is
a
long
period
of
time
and
what
we
try
to
do
is
keep
firefighters
and
officers
going
to
these
academies,
because
we
know
we
have
vacancies.
C
C
Oh
yeah,
I
think
that
I
broke
them
down
into
two
and
again
non-non-uh
personnel.
You
know
the
five
thousand
dollars
that
was
the
new
line
item
in
the
training
in
the
personnel
human
resource
budget.
Again
going
into
the
budgets
you
know.
Personally,
I
felt
that
training
needed
to
be
improved
and
increased,
but
that's
you
know
with
with
the
current
situation
in
the
personnel
area
that
would
not
be
implemented,
so
that
certainly
can
be
reduced.
Again.
C
When
I
looked
at
this,
I
tried
to
have
a
threshold
of
at
least
ten
thousand
dollars
and
actually
higher
smaller
amounts
was
just
not
really.
It
were
worth
it,
the
5000
and
there's
another
one
just
because
that
was
a
new
line.
C
Item
opeb,
if
the
healthcare
is
fully
funded
and
gets
to
the
rates
where
we
need
to
be,
and
if
we
have
a
decent
year
good
year,
the
budgeted
amount,
health
care
will
go
into
an
internal
service
fund
for
active
employees
and
for
those
retirees
would
go
into
the
opeb
trust
fund,
as
I
believe
so,
if
we
have
a
budget
appropriately
have
a
good
year
any
savings
there
would
go
into
these
internal
service
funds
of
the
opec
trust.
That's
what
I
believe
for
the
opec
trust.
C
Yes,
yeah,
yes,
this
is
what
was
given
to
us
by
our
health
care
consultant.
Traditionally,
the
town
doesn't
use
that
number.
It
use
a
number
that
accountability
can
afford
and,
as
a
result,
there
are
times
when
we're
going
to
expend
that
number.
It
goes
into
general
service
funds,
and
if
it's
not
enough,
that
internal
service
will
have
a
deficit,
I
believe
there's
a
slight
deficit
in
the
town's
internal
service
for
health
care,
a
small
one.
But
again
these
rates
should
cover.
C
What's
coming
up
and
again,
you
never
know
because
we
have
stop-loss
insurance
for
big
claims,
but
any
given
time
you
could
have
a
number
of
big
claims
go
up
to
the
maximum,
so
these
rates
will
give
us
the
opportunity
to
budget
accordingly,
and
if
we
have
good
years
those
savings
don't
go
to
the
general
fund.
They
go
back
into
the
healthcare
care
service
fund
and
again,
if
it
can
go
into
the
opec
trust
fund.
That
will
build
that
up.
C
You
know
that
will
help
build
up
in
the
future.
So
again,
keeping
insurance
rates
is
important
and
again,
if
we
can
do
that
and
do
it
recurringly,
the
no
trap
contribution
certainly
needs
to
be
made.
But
when
you
look
at
it
it
would
not
be
as
critical
as
if
we
were
using
a
arbitrary,
smaller
amount
just
to
fit
into
the
budget.
So
hopefully
the
rates
will
help
re
increase,
the
internal
internal
trust
fund
and
the
health
care
trust
fund.
C
C
So
that's
why
the
recommendation
was
to
reduce
it
by
150.
workers
comp
the
actual
bill
came
in
and
it's
about
50
000.
You
know
maybe
a
little
bit
higher.
G
C
I'm
sorry
the
reduction
is
a
hundred
thousand
workers,
comp
100
000,
and
if
we
go
forward
the
fire
department,
you
know
they
had
a
fairly
large
increase
in
their
budget.
For
a
number
of
reasons,
training
was
one
that
was
again.
It
was
important
to
me
for
training
purposes,
but
you
know
they
still
have.
You
know
for
training
in
the
end
and
if
they
manage
their
budget
well,
they
have
opportunities
for
training.
Above
and
beyond
the
required
training.
C
D
C
C
You
know
it
was
nice
to
have
internal
candidates
could
meet
the
qualifications
of
chief
and-
and
I
believe
there
may
be
one
nominee,
but
maybe
one
close
to
the
time
she
played
again
that's
sort
of
what
was
in
my
mind,
but
again
the
35
000
would
be
sufficient
going
into
dpw
overtime,
just
ten
thousand
dollars.
I
agree
with
efficiencies,
and
if
we
can
be
more
efficient
during
the
regular
work
week,
then
you
know
more
work
can
be
done
and
have
a
less
reliance
upon
scheduled
overtime.
G
C
C
For
fire,
15
000,
going
within
10
000
in
in
public
works
overtime,
scooting
on
down.
Then
we
go
into
capital.
Okay,
that's
one
of
the
areas.
You
look
to
look
at
and
see
if
something
can
be
deferred
or
funded
to
a
different
source.
C
You
know
you
know,
I
have
the
capital
list
for
everything.
If
the
council
wants
copies
of
that,
looking
through
it,
the
8
500
for
the
computer
replacement
for
the
police
department,
you
know
they
want
to
get
ahead.
A
heads
up
on
you
know
the
old
software
operating
systems.
I
believe
they
are
2007
they're,
going
to
be
non-supported
in
january,
1st
or
february
1st
of
2000,
and
we
have
get
50
000
budgeted
in
the
capital.
C
For
that-
and
you
know
the
colonel
wanted
to
get
sort
of
a
head
start
on
that,
and
I
can
attest
to
that
because
friday,
I'm
working
on
this
and
my
computer
crashed
it
took
a
while
for
rcc
and
I
thankfully
they
got
it
back
up
working
now,
but
it's
a
2010
and
and
that
needs
to
be
replaced,
and
I
think
they
were
able
to
save
and
transfer
things.
So
in
case
it
does
go
out
right
now.
So
again
our
computer
systems
need
to
be
replaced.
C
It
reduces
the
the
amount
that
the
colonel
wanted
for
police.
We
still
have
50
000
replacement
in
the
capitol
okay
and
again
with
the
police,
and
this
is
something
I
will
say
that
is
first.
I
when
I
saw
it,
I
really
didn't
like
it,
but
it
does
have
merit
and
is
a
good
practice
to
have
when
municipal
court
fines
are
in
a
restricted
account
and
those
fines
can
be
used
with
the
mr
court
judge's
approval
for
various
items
for
the
police
department,
where
they
can
purchase
things.
C
C
B
C
The
fire
I
asked
the
fire
chief,
okay,
you
have
four
or
five
capital
items,
which
is
your
most
important
rank
then,
and
he
indicated
that
the
fiber
microfiber
line
going
to
I
have
written
down
was
the
least
important
of
the
important
items.
The
other
items
were
needed
for
the
operations
and
then
the
compressors
were
needed
for
the
rescues.
C
Those
are
the
automatic
chest
compressors,
because
my
understanding,
new
protocols
that
are
in
place
were
going
to
be
in
place,
require
certain
aspects
where
you
have
to
have
a
half
an
hour
of
compression
before
you
transport,
and
that
can
be
very
difficult.
These
would
be
on
each
of
the
response
to
rescues
they're
on
every
day.
So
that
would
be
something
important
hose
is
a
tool
that
is
needed
replacement.
C
G
So
the
microwave
link
is
the
formal
communication
between
the
factory
street
tower
that
receives
all
of
our
radio
communications
and
data
input,
and
we
have
a
cable
that
goes
from
the
factory
street
tower
to
our
communication
and
the
police
also,
so
this
would
have
would
affect
both
police
and
fire.
It's
just
it's
in
communication,
so
our
communications
guys
were
leading
that
so,
but
right
now,
everything's
done
through
that
cable.
The
microwave
link
would
eliminate
that
cable
and
it's
a
vulnerability
in
lightning
storms.
G
That's
what
happened
this
past
summer,
we
ended
up
having
like
a
almost
17
000
worth
of
damage
to
a
capacitor
and
some
other
components
in
our
dispatching,
so
that
that's
what
that
is
about
it
is.
It
is
important,
it's
something
we
need
to
do,
but
if
I
I
need
hoes,
you
know
you
know
and
so
that
that's
why
we.
E
G
C
C
E
C
Many
communities
don't
do
that
and
as
a
result,
it's
either
capital
or
nothing.
So
this
community
has
taken
a
step,
and
I
know
chief
barris
was
very
proud
of
that
and
other
chief
ass.
He
asked
him
about
that
and
you
know
that
is
a
very,
very
good
program
to
have
to
help
us
win
these
equipment
and
when
you
fund
them
through
lease
purchase,
you
know,
then
you
know
that's.
A
A
Think
about
it
if
the
town
had
to
raise
taxes
for
a
fire
truck
for
one
year,
but
that
truck's
going
to
be
good
for
10
years.
The
taxpayers
are
footing
it's
not
like.
They
reduce
the
taxes
the
following
year
to
wipe
out
that
truck
fee,
they're,
being
the
taxpayers
are
being
charged
yearly,
so
that
fund's
perfect.
For
that
also
one
thing,
chief
paris
brought
to
us
in
jail
right
100.
A
Was
that
not
only
did
he
ask
the
council,
I
think
passed
it,
a
resolution
that
he's
able
to
use
for
other
supplies
and
whatever
for
the
fire
department
in
case
there
was
at
one
time
at
one
time
that
was
pretty
built
up
and
I
gotta
say
we
have
a
pretty
good
fleet
right.
Now,
probably
you
know
if
you
look
at
the
fleets
from
2006
until
now.
Yes,
it's
remarkable.
We
were
driving
around
with
a
72
truck
until
about
five
years
ago,
and
the.
A
And
I
said
you
guys
should
let
it
burn,
but
they
put
it
out.
You
know
they
just
it's
part
of
their
mentality,
of
putting
the
fire
on.
I
guess,
but
but
again,
if
you
could
swing
it,
that
would
help
out
a
little
bit.
But
again
you
know,
I
understand
exactly.
E
D
E
G
It
needs
to
be
replaced,
it's
going
to
take
us
over
a
year
just
to
get
the
truck
built
to
replace
it,
and
you
know
we're
looking
at
trying
to
stretch
out
the
terms
of
that
loan
from
what
was
originally
planned
for
nine
years
into
closer
to
12
to
15
years,
which
is
a
long
time
to
pay
for
our
truck.
You
know
right
so,
but.
A
G
G
I
believe
believe
the
ebay
account
left
when
captain
mark
bennett
left.
He
was
the
administrator
of
that,
but
drug
forfeitures
we
we
do
get
obviously
don't
rely
on
them,
they're,
allegedly
when
we
get
them
and
they
usually
take
about
a
year
to
process.
G
C
And
then
just
continuing
on
with
the
general
reduction
non-non-personnel
in
capital,
at
least
basically
in
my
mind,
went
together
the
deep
tracker
camera
that
can
go
through
the
the
drainage
lines
and
the
roto
rooter
with
delivery,
which
is
ability
to
clear
the
line
with
roots
with
blades
and
currently
when
a
situation
calls
for
that
that
need
the
highway
department
will
call
wastewater.
C
Can
we
use
your
jet
truck?
You
know
the
camera
and
they
can
flush
it,
and
you
know
they
work
very
well.
D
C
D
C
D
H
In
the
past,
I
guess
the
cooperation
between
the
two
departments
wasn't
as
strong
as
it
is
now,
but
we
haven't
had
a
problem
unless
it's
broken
down
or
they're
they're
using
it,
but
I
just
used
it
last
week
on
a
job
they
came
out
came
to
line
for
us,
so
we
can't
get
by
that
way.
Yes,
it
has.
C
C
I
have
not
knowing
what
and
if
a
direction
may
be
from
the
council
had
to
look
at
other
areas
and
when
you
look
at
our
budget,
when
you
take
away
the
fixed
costs,
it
becomes
personnel
and
benefits,
and
I
think
the
number
you
know
I
had
the
number
for
all
salaries
and
wages.
But
you
know
you
have
to
if
you
have
to
go
further
than
the
196.,
so.
A
Already
I
want
to
cut
you
up,
I
know
you
said
the
last
council
means
somewhat
possibly
a
little
bit
of
a
surplus
this
year.
C
And
I
don't
have
a
like
an
up-to-date
report
on
where
we
ended
up.
I
certainly
can
can
have
that
printed
up
and
see.
You
know
where
those
differences
are
there
for
the
entire.
You
know
the
entire
town
budget
you
know,
but
which
is
40
million.
You
know
from
the
town.
E
Personnel
question
which
has
hasn't
come
up
and
again
it's
just
a
question
in
in
our
animal
shelter
last
I
knew
we
had
both
acos
out
and
a
mem.
One
came
back
well,
someone
from
dpw
left
to
go
to
be
the
aco
and
they
were
the
one
aco
for
I
don't
know
how
many
months
so
I
guess
we'll.
I
didn't
know
that.
C
Well,
dancing
your
first
question:
I
would
have
to
go
back
and
review
the
municipal
contract
to
see
what
you
know
what
leeway
there
is
once
a
position
is
being
filled
temporarily
for
a
vacant
position,
so
I
have
to
look
at
that
see.
If
that
is
a
possibility,
when
there
was
one,
then
you
had
the
facility
open
five
five
days
rather
than
seven,
which
is
fine
and
then
the
reoccurring
overtime,
those
two
days
that
the
facility
would
be
closed
as
well,
as
you
know,
the
overtime
generated
with
holidays
and
things
of
that
nature.
C
So
you
know
that
is
something
that
can
be
looked
at
as
far
as
the
necessity
for
two.
That
is
a
question
I
know.
In
the
past,
the
town
has
operated
with
one
and
one
or
two
part-time
positions,
and
you
know
I've
had
discussions
with
you
know.
You
know
the
colonel
about
that,
as
well
as
looking
at
other
models
of
other
communities.
How
do
they
do
it?
You
know
at
this
point
based
on
the
discussions.
C
It
seems
appropriate
to
keep
the
two
positions
at
the
present
time,
but
that's
something
that
could
be
reviewed
going
forward.
Based
upon
you
know
the
necessity
I
mean.
Sometimes
it's
very
busy.
Sometimes
it's
not.
It
depends
on
how
many
guests
they
have
or
how
many
you
know,
calls
come
out
for
the
enforcement
end.
You
know,
but
it
is
busy
can't
be
busy
and
or
it
can
be
very
quiet.
You
know
you
never
know.
C
I
mean
somebody
could
have
a
hoarding
situation
and
it's
all
all
hands
on
deck
and
you
have
to
place
them
with
other
other
entities,
but
we
do
have
volunteers
to
help,
which
is
very
good,
but
you
know
when
volunteers
are
present,
we
have
to
have
a
full-time
city
account
employee
there
as
well,
but
it's
something
to
to
look
at
going
forward,
but
that's
not
what
was
contemplated
in
the
budget
or
when
we
talked
about
that,
because
that
that
question
did
come
up
in
our
my
conversation
with
the
colonel.
G
C
F
C
G
F
A
We're
going
to
cut
it,
just
all
I
want
to
say,
is
send
the
letter
to
if
we're
going,
to
cut
it
down
to
zero,
send
the
letter
right
now
to
the
food
company,
the
veterans
council.
Let
them
know
so
they
can
start
raising
money,
because
the
food
coverage
has
gotten
over
six
thousand
dollars
a
year
from
us
around
the
holidays,
which
has
fed
a
lot
of
families
in
this
town.
A
B
So
so
my
point
is
again:
I
don't
believe
we
should
be
in
the
business
of
entertaining
other
501
c3s.
If
that's
what
it
is,
let's
make
it
clear:
that's
what
it
is
and
not
have
people
asking
for
500
here
300
here,
a
thousand
here,
that's
what
our
intent
is.
Let's,
let's
make
it
clear:
that's
what
it's
going
for.
E
B
A
E
D
A
You
want
to
cut
it
I'll
caught
it
I'll
agree
with
you.
I
just
say
we
need
to
let
both
organizations
know
now,
so
they
can
find
other
ways
of
trying
to
figure
it
out.
In
other
words,
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
have
steak
fries
down
there
or
what
they're
going
to
do
over
there,
you
know,
are
they
going
to
apply
for
grants
to
the
state?
You
know
you're
just
going
to
figure
out.
A
I
just
don't
want
to
be
blindsided
come
november
and
say
no,
so
if
we're
going
to
cut
it
and
it's
in
the
budget
passes,
we
need
to
let
them
know
immediately
saying
because
we've
already
got
the
request,
I
think
from
the
veterans
council
looking
for
1500
for
next
year.
We
just
need
to
let
them
know
that
sorry,
it's
been
cut
at
this
time.
Well,.
B
The
other
tact
you
can
take
if
they
have
already
planning
on
it
for
this
year,
is
that
we'll
give
to
those
two
organizations,
but
you
know
what
we're
really
going
to
consider
that
going
forward.
Again,
I'm
not
looking,
I
think,
they're
both
worthy
organizations,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
worthy
organizations
and-
and
I'm
sure
I
wasn't
here
for
the
whole
time,
so
I'm
not
sure
exactly
where
the
request
came.
E
D
E
E
D
B
Okay,
if
those
two
organizations
specifically
have
relied
on
us
for
a
number
of
years,
maybe
we
need
to
send
a
message
that
it-
maybe
it's
not
in
perpetuity
that
we
can
do
that-
that
we
have
to
have
to
consider
that
given
the
tough
times
but
yeah,
I'm
not
hell-bent
on
cutting
the
cutting
their
funding
this
year.
But
I
again,
I
don't
think
we
should
be
entertaining
dozens
of
requests
for
for
money
from
501
c3s.
B
B
B
So
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that.
If
we
agree
that
that's
it
we're
not
gonna
we're
not
gonna,
entertain
any
others
and
then
have
to
look
at
the
whole
thing.
A
C
Could
there
be
a
motion
and
second-
and
I
can
go
through
this,
so
we
have
a
formal
vote
because
I
know
kristen's,
probably
home,
looking
saying
you
know,
we
need
to
vote
for
these.
B
B
B
That
leaves
the
personnel
the
issue.
We've
talked
about
the
floater,
I
agree
with
you.
The
florida
needs
to
be
used
properly.
We
shouldn't
have
departments
closed
when
people
come
in
to
do
their
business
that
we're
not
providing
the
service
we
need
to
provide,
but
that's
not
a
budget
issue.
That's
a.
B
C
C
To
do
you
know
physical
work,
so
the
laborers
give
you
the
bigger
something
bang
for
the
buck,
the
driver
who
drives
and
assists.
That's
the
rationale
for
that
recommendation,
and
again,
since
there
are
vacancies,
you
know,
none
of
these
recommendations
would
have
required.
You
know
someone
to
to
be
out
of
a
job.
That's
the
reason.
B
And
does
that
happen
now,
david
that
that
people,
actually
the
laborers,
do
drive
when
necessary
and
get
paid?
Yes.
H
H
A
challenge
every
day
and
it's
a
combination
of
physicians
not
being
filled
people
out
of
work,
people
bidding
into
other
departments,
it's
the
perfect
storm
over
there.
That
makes
it
right
now
we're
struggling
to
perform
the
basic
services
most
days,
we're
picking
up,
yahweh's
and
sweeping
streets.
That's
it.
You
know
so
we're
fortunate.
This
week
we
got
finished
with
yahweh's
today,
we'll
catch
up
on
a
bunch
of
other
things,
the
rest
of
the
week,
but
that
that's
how
it
is
again.
Today
we
had
a
good
workforce.
H
We
had
11
people
out
on
the
road
today,
no
one
called
in
everybody
showed
no
one
asked
for
a
vacation
day,
so
we've
been
without
at
least
two
of
those
positions
since
I've
been
here.
Of
course,
you
don't
want
to
see
anybody
lose
a
job,
you
don't
want
to
cut
positions,
demote,
people
and
all
that,
but
on
the
other
hand
we
have
to
get
the
work
done
too.
So
we
have
to
find
a
way
to
get
that
done.
So
it's
a
challenge.
Every.
H
G
B
I
guess
I
I
do
know
you're
strapped,
I
know
you
don't
have
personnel,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
cutting
off
our
nose,
despite
our
face,
despite
the
fact
that
it's
difficult
to
fill
those
positions,
I'm
hoping
that
it
gets
easier.
I'm
hoping
that
there
are
some.
You
know
easing
of
the
requirements,
but
that's
not
a
guarantee.
A
Steve,
let
me
ask
you
a
question.
You
said
people
move
into
other
departments.
Are
we
able
to
hire
temporary
help.
A
H
A
H
H
Ideally,
what
you
want
is
you
want
to
bring
a
person
in
without
a
cdl
license
train
that
person
give
them
six
months
to
a
year
to
obtain
that
license.
That's
right!
That's
the
way
it's
done
everywhere
else
you
bring
them
in.
Wouldn't
that
benefit
everybody.
That
would
benefit
everyone.
Yes,
it
would.
H
Normally
it
wouldn't
make
a
difference.
There
is
a
provision
in
the
contract
where
you
cannot
force
a
driver
to
labor.
So
if
I
had
a
situation
where
I
was
short,
more
people,
it's
hard
for
me
to
take
one
of
those
six,
even
though-
and
I
have
to
say
they
do
cooperate
and
work
and
help.
I
will
say
that,
but
they
have
the
choice
not
to
okay.
They
have
the
choice
not
to
according
to
the
contract.
Okay.
H
So
basically,
what
you're
at
risk
is
losing
two
laborers
and
at
any
given
time
they
could
say
not
that
they
always
do
yeah
we're
not
going
to
go
on
the
back
of
that
yahweh's
truck
for
you
today
we
don't
have
to
so
that's
the
only
that's
the
rationale
behind
that.
That's
the
only
rationale
behind
that.
F
A
Just
remember
two
drivers:
you
have
six
and
you
have
laborers
that
don't
want
to
drive
come
snow
time.
Good
luck!
Just
saying
it's
been
around
long
enough.
I've
seen
it.
I
know
it
and
you
know
what
then
you're
going
to
sit
there
and
say
my
roads.
Look
like
crap.
My
constituents
are
calling
me:
why
aren't
the
streets
sanded?
Why
aren't
they
plowed?
And
yes,
it
only
snows
four
months
a
year
here
but
or
whatever
it
may
be.
A
But
again
you
look
at
the
hours
that
they
put
in.
Oh,
there
are
no
storms
absolutely
and
I
I've
suggested.
I
know
I've
personally
gone
down
to
dpw
one
two
in
the
morning
and
said
hello
guys,
I'm
here
with
you,
because
I'm
all
fallen
too,
but
you
know
they're
out
there
and
I've
gone
in
and
checked
out.
You
know,
especially
those
big
storms.
When
we
had
a
four
foot
and
a
half
and
they're
out
there
following
16
18
hours,
you
got
to
look
at.
You
know
the
big
picture,
all
the
way
around.
D
A
H
A
So
you
know
and
that's
that's
why
and
that's
why
we
ended
up
with
assistant
director,
because
at
the
time
the
director
was
staying
here
for
the
entire
storm
and
and
putting
in
an
extra
20
hours
a
week
and
and
being
worn
out
and
cranky
and
whatever
else
it
may
come
with
that
and
rightfully
so,
and
that's
why
we
brought
in
the
assistant.
So
we
could
have
somebody
who
can
go
to
meetings
with
the
town
manager
and
somebody
working
with
the
guys
on
the
road
and
making
sure
things
are
getting
done.
A
I
mean
you
know
it's
just
it's
just
it's
frustrating,
as
as
a
council
person
sitting
up
here,
knowing
the
ins
and
outs
and
what
truly
goes
on
here
and
again.
It
all
goes
back
to
efficiency,
efficiency
efficiency.
Not
so
much
I
mean,
I
think
everybody
tries
to
give
it
a
hundred
percent.
They
try
to
do
their
job
and
there's
always
that
five
percent
that
ruin.
D
A
I
I'm
on
a
baseball.
You
know
I've
seen
it
for
years
where
the
board
wants
to
help
and
do
all
things
a
sudden
they're
getting
scrutinized
for
trying
to
help
not
they're,
not
trying
to
eliminate
trust
me.
No
baseball
league
is
trying
to
eliminate
any
job
in
this
town,
they're
just
trying
to
make
it
easier
and
better
for
the
children
and
the
parents
to
to
enjoy
baseball
or
whatever
you
know.
One
of
the
things
is
a
timer.
We
have
a
timer
down
at
river
point.
Give
the
league
the
the
key.
A
D
G
A
Want
to
take
anybody's
job,
they
just
want
to
help
people
and-
and-
and
I
see
the
mentality
is
oh
you're-
taking
away
you're,
taking
away
we're,
not
taking
away
we're
trying
to
help,
and
that's
all
it's
just
you
know,
go
do
something
like
you
said,
there's
always
something
else
on
that
list.
To
do
I
mean
I
I
have.
I
have
people
on
north
korean
street
ever
since
the
construction
is
going
on.
They're
flooding
they've
been
flooding
over
two
years.
Now,
it's
all
because
of
debris.
A
That's
in
a
brook,
that's
our
brook,
because
it
is
our
drain
that
goes
behind
their
property,
it's
our
sewer
and
our
drainage
going
behind
their
property.
We
can't
get
anybody
out
there,
because
we
don't
have
the
manpower
we
don't
have
people
to
get
over
there.
You
know
you
ask
for
a
sign,
knock
on
wood.
They've
gets
it.
They
try
to
get
it
done.
They
get
it
done
as
fast
as
possible.
A
What
do
you
expect
to
cover
when
you
cut
and
we're
trying
to
beautify
this
town?
Let
me
tell
you
by
cutting
dpw,
is
not
going
to
beautify
this
time
by
cutting
building
officials
office
isn't
going
to
beautify
at
this
time.
It's
not
going
to
make
it
be
any
better.
It's
only
going
to
make
it
worse.
You
know
if
we
have
to
look
at
the
way
bulk
pickups
picked.
G
A
D
What's
do
you
have
a
savings
of
what
that
would
be
if
we
kept
it
on
fridays
for
like
a
year,
a
rough
estimate
of
doing
that
and
saturday
I
mean,
would
we
be
eliminating
saturdays
totally,
because
I
know
in
the
past
week
this
saturday
has
been
a
day
where
people
could
drop
stuff
off.
Has
that
been
going
as
well?
Oh.
A
D
D
B
So
I
I
would
recommend
that
the
new
budget
reflect
this
change
and
we
discussed
now
the
timing
of
what's
happening
and
going
forward.
A
C
Well,
kristin
will
take
this
information
and
regenerate
a
new
budget
similar
to
the
one
we
had
once
that's
done,
then
we
can
start
the
process
of
scheduling
the
public
hearings
and
that's
the
third
public,
the
second
public
hearing
it
has
to
be
advertised
three
times.
I
believe-
and
you
have
to
have
two
public
hearings
right.
B
C
C
You
know
for
the
ad
that
has
to
be
placed
10
days
before
the
budget
referendum
and
again
as
well
as
that's
going
on
the
canvas
there's
clerks
through
all
kinds
of
things.
You
know
as
far
as
the
ballots
and
voting
and
you
know
finding
a
place
to
hold
the
the
referendum.
So
again,
once
this
budget
is
updated,
which
hopefully
can
be
tomorrow,
then
we'll
check
advertising.
When
can
we
get
it.
C
No
because
the
the
summer
program
will
be
in
swing
at
that
point,.
A
Let
me
just
some:
some
things
were
brought
to
my
attention
before
this
meeting.
We
have
it
in
the
high
school
lobby.
The
problem
with
that
is,
there's
no
air
conditioning
there.
The
border
canvases
is
stressed
that
we
don't
do
it
there,
because
the
sun
beats
in
that
lobby
the
entire
day
and
the
last
time
we
did
it.
In
july
there
was
90
something
in
that
lobby
and
they
were
there
from
7
am
to
8
pm,
so
they
have
stressed
not
to
go
there.
A
G
A
D
A
G
G
A
G
D
C
G
C
D
D
C
D
B
C
The
council
can
schedule
a
meeting
and
adopt
the
budget
as
that
budget
or
a
change
budget
correct,
and
at
that
point,
then
the
budget
will
be
submitted
to
the
state
and
they'll
review.
It
give
us
the
go
ahead
because
they
also
review
the
ad-
that's
placed
you
know
in
the
newspaper
and
that
ad
has
to
be
at
least
10
days
before
the
financial
town
meeting.
I
believe
so.
Those
are
those
are
the
requirements
as
well
as
what
you
know.
The
clerk
and
canvassers
has
to
do
that.
C
So
we'll
get
that
as
soon
as
the
as
soon
as
the
buddy
is
done,
it'll
be
sent
to
the
you
know,
it
could
be
put
the
ad
can
be
put
together
and
that
would
be
sent
to
the
kent
county
as
long
as
they
can
get
them
as
soon
as
available
time.
It
could
be
placed
in
there.
So
you
have,
you
know
you
could
have
three
consecutive
days.
Does
it
have
to
be.
D
G
A
He
took
his
valuation
with
his
new
tax
rate
and
he
came
up
to
the
mic
and
said
I'm
going
to
see
a
2
000
increase
or
whatever
it
was
a
very
substantial
increase.
Well,
he
was
taking
the
old
tax
rate
at
27,
not
the
22.
people,
don't
see
that
people
don't
so
I
and
I
fully
understand
that
you
know
we
have
and
people
don't
come
here.
Okay,
I'm
looking
on
this
crowd
now,
everyone's
either
an
employee
or
a
former
employee
or
the
town
seller.
Okay,
we've
had
sessions
here
right
that
people
don't
get
here.
A
G
A
D
D
A
A
A
G
B
A
You're
not
saying
you're,
not
saying,
vote
you're,
not
holding
a
sign,
you
can't
politic,
you
can't
sit
there
and
the
tom
manger
can't
say:
vote
yes
and
hold
the
sign
or
have
a
shirt
vote
pedro.
Okay,
he's
gonna
sit
there
and
answer
a
question.
Somebody
says
hey:
why
is
this
1.7
percent
increase
and
tell
me
what
it's
going
to
well?
950
000
is
going
to
health
care,
200
thousand
dollars
going
on
this
300
and
something
thousand
dollars
is
going
through
future
contract
negotiations,
because
that.
A
A
Okay,
so
when
people
are
saying
vote
no
because
of
the
contracts,
because
of
that
reason,
why
can't
town
officials
like
the
town
manager
and
the
finance
director
or
deputy
finance
director,
be
they
answer?
Strictly
those
questions
not
say
support,
don't
support
the
vote.
I
could
totally
see
if
ernie
made
a
phone
call
and
a
robo
call
and
said
vote.
Yes,
click
vote.
Yes,
you
look
in
carpentry
right
now.
There's
political
signs
everywhere!
D
B
A
B
G
D
Election
day
you
couldn't
like
you,
don't
have
a
lot
of
information
of
like
what
is
what
is
councilman
the
charity
standpoint.
What
does
councilman
messiani
stand
for
right,
but
when
you
go
into
the
budget
vote
there
is
some
information
about
the
budget.
There
it's
very
vague,
but
I
mean
I
don't
know
I.
I
don't
think
it's
a
bad
idea.
It's.
B
D
G
C
B
C
And
again,
tomorrow,
I'll
check
with
the
solicitor
and
marianne,
maybe
you
could
check
with
the
board
of
canvas
as
well,
we'll
see
what
we
can
do
if
that's
possible,
to
have
someone
there
I'd
be
happy
to
and
have
the
information,
but
that's
something
that's
but.
B
B
A
A
G
A
They're
going
in
with
one
thing
in
their
head:
no,
I'm
gonna
tell
you
right
now.
I
know
I
can
give
you
five
people
that
if
you
went
zero
percent
today
based
upon
their
assessments,
they're
voting.
No,
because
sal
is
right.
You
have
your
condos
or
whoever
may
be
favorable,
but
there
are
people
that
have
come
to
me
and
said
david.
I
don't
care
if
you
go
minus
two
percent,
my
taxes
are
still
going
up
and
I'm
voting
no
okay
vote.
No,
thank
you.
They
told
me
the
process
is
flawed,
fix
it.
A
Well,
I
can't
fix
this
year's
evaluation.
That's
what
it
is.
You
know
and
there's
nothing
you
can
do
you
appealed
it
so
be
it
like.
I
said:
there's
still
going
to
be,
25
is
going
to
see
an
increase.
50
is
going
to
stay
in
that
couple
hundred
dollar
marker
and
it's
going
to
be
25,
seeing
a
decrease
at
zero
percent.
A
B
G
B
C
C
C
So
you
know
once
the
ad
goes
to
the
ken
county
times
this
is
they
can
get
it
in
the
paper
whatever
that
next
day
is
then
we'll
be
able
to
do
the
three
public
hearings
and
then
we'll
have
to
be
able
to
schedule.
I'm
sorry,
two
public
here,
three
notices,
two
public
hearings
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
once
the
ad
will
know
we
can
have
a
timeline
and
schedule
for
the
rest
of
the
process
and.
B
A
B
G
A
A
D
G
Yeah,
with
all
due
respect,
you
talk
about
efficiency,
but
I
don't
think
taking
the
town
manager
away
from
this
job
for
an
entire
day
or
the
finance
director
or
the
deputy
finance
director
away
from
their
position
for
an
entire
day
to
ask
questions
when
people
have
plenty
of
opportunity
to
come
and
ask
and
answer
their
questions.
But
I
don't
think
that's
being
very
efficient.
A
G
E
D
A
And
then
I
think
the
tax
rate
I
mean
the
tax
increase,
the
tax
proposed
tax
rate
and
then
the
highlights.
What's
the
highlights
of
the
budget?
Obviously
healthcare's
a
highlight
of
the
budget:
increa
increase
of
healthcare
900,
something
thousand
dollars:
yeah
we're
increased
to
opec,
contribution
to
opec,
150
000
as
a
taxpayer,
the
town
employee,
the
texas
taxpayer
town
employee,
can
understand
what
we're
doing
and
and
why
we're
doing
it
that
you
might.
A
A
It's
just
you
know.
I
came
before
the
pension
board
last
night
and
explained
that
you
know
the
pension
board
was
told
that
me
specifically,
if
not
supporting
mers,
and
I
said
I
came
before
the
pension
board
last
night
and
said:
listen,
I
don't
know
what
you
guys
are
hearing,
but
people
on
that
board
are
on
social
media,
saying
we're
not
funding
the
pension,
which
is
untrue.
The
ark
is
the
fund.
Anu,
yes,
requested.
A
Required
it's
almost
10
million.
Is
it
an
unfunded
liability?
Absolutely
that's
where
they're
confusing
the
public?
Yes,
the
pension
is
an
unfunded
liability.
Yes,
we
are
many
and
millions
of
dollars
of
unfunded,
but
this
council
and
some
council
and
the
councils
before
this
over
the
last
five
years
have
contributed
to
the
ark.
Now
it
was
even
brought
to
us
that
the
ark
was
missed
by
a
couple
of
hundred
almost
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
A
A
As
appointed
official
of
the
town,
if
you're
on
facebook
or
wherever
saying
we're,
not
funding
the
pension,
we're
not
and
that,
and
that
scares
employees
that
scares
the
retirees
when
they
they
think
we're,
not
funding
it
because
they
don't
they're,
not
here
every
time.
So
they
just
hear
oh
they're,
not
funding,
they're,
not
understanding
that
we
are-
and
I
just
said
you
know,
misinformation
is
what
hurts
everybody,
and
as
long
as
we
get
the
information
out
there
and
the
proper
information,
it
should
be
all
right.
But.
G
C
A
G
A
But
no,
they
talked
about
it
last
night
and
actually
a
gentleman
came
to
the
microphone.
He
was
comparing
west
warwick
and
murray's
and
he
brought
the
contributions.
It
was
like
five
percent
four
percent.
A
He
went
through
the
last
10
years
with
the
pension
board
and
I
was
sitting
right
behind
him
and
he
had
all
his
numbers
right
in
a
row
and
you
know
he
was
comparing
it
to
mers
and
whatever,
and
we
were
talking
about
and
one
thing
that
was
brought
up
as
an
analysis
was
you
know,
west
warwick
going
into
mers,
possibly
or
whatever?
Those
are
things
that
we're
trying
to
save
money
on
and
whatever
was
looking.
A
In
that
fountain,
where
all
that
change
is
you
know,
so
it's
a
much
bigger
pot
to
deal
with
if
it
goes
in
the
mirrors,
so
those
are
all
things
that
were
discussed
last
night,
how
to
save
money,
and
that's
the
first
thing
that
they
were
talking
about,
was
how
to
save
money
and
that
gentleman
stood
up
well.
That
gentleman
stood
well
that
too,
but
that
gentleman
stood
up
last
night
and
said
over
the
last
five
years.
A
Just
in
your
administrative
fees,
you've
could
have
saved
the
pension
over
a
half
a
million
dollars
if
we
were
in
mers
and
he
stood
up
and
said
that,
and
he
had
his
figures
right
to
a
t
from
what
seth
magazine
said
that
night
what
he
had
and
he
had-
and
he
said
you
know
these
are
things
that
we
need
to
look
at.
So
I
mean
the
town
has
their
eyes.
Open
employees
have
their
eyes
open
on
how
to
save
money.
Yes,
people
have
come
to
me
with
ideas.
A
H
G
A
B
A
A
D
Trust
me,
that's
my
whole.
That's
my
life,
but
but
making
a
public
statement
on
facebook,
at
least
everywhere
social
media
newspaper,
making
a
public
statement
of
of
the
facts,
and
you
don't
have
to
even
respond
to
anything.
Just
just
one
statement
I
mean.
E
D
A
You
can
put
the
information
out
there,
but
I'm
telling
you
right
now
I'll
put
the
information
out
there,
I'm
not
getting
into
the
answer,
because
all
I
responded
was
to
somebody
who
said
car
tax
is
going
up.
36
percent,
which
they're
going
up
zero
and
everybody's,
seeing
a
reduction
in
their
car
taxes,
and
then
I
started
getting
attacks
of.
Why
are
we
spending
300
000
on
hotels?
A
No,
that's
revenue
you're
on
the
revenue
page,
and
I
I
was
done
at
that
point
because
I
I
can't
stay
up
past
10
o'clock
anymore,
and
I
wasn't
going
to
bother
arguing
with
individuals
over
that
when
they
can
come
here.
I
I
mean
they
can
come
here
anytime.
They
can
talk
to
us.
They
know
our
number.
They
can
call
us.
A
E
I
think,
and
I'm
not
going
to
belabor
the
point.
I
think
we
should
have
the
meeting
on
a
thursday
night
at
the
civic
center
the
day
one
and
three
for
setup
and
breakdown.
It
can
all
be
roped
off.
It's
not
a
big
area,
and
I
and
I
feel
that
on
thursday
camp
should
be
closed.
If
you
want
to
add
a
date
to
the
end,
that's
fine,
it
all
can
be
done.
I
think
it
just
muddies
the
waters.
E
I
think
we've
done
as
a
council
whether
we
agree
disagree
as
long
as
we
agree
to
get
the
information
out
to
the
public,
it
should
be
done
in
advance.
Just
like
we're
doing
right
now,
and
I
don't
see
when
I
go
in
to
vote
as
a
taxpayer,
that
I'm
not
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
ask
the
questions.
I
know
what
you're
saying,
but
I'm
not
going
to
go
in
and
search
out
anybody
from
the
town
hall
to
ask
questions
when
I
go
in
I'm.
E
I
know
what
I
what
I,
how
I
wanted
to
vote
going
in.
I
want
it
to
be
go
in
not
stand
in
line,
make
my
vote
and
leave
so
for
you
to
be
there
no
offense.
I
agree
with
you
with
this.
I
don't
think
you're
needed
again.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
too,
but
I
think
there's
productivity
can
be
done.
People
are
going
to
vote
how
they're
going
to
vote.
E
E
A
A
E
A
Totally
opposite
effect,
though
2012
it
was
turned
down,
because
the
council
cut
the
5
from
the
schools
and
then
we
had
the
1200
person
rally
up
at
the
schools
between
the
cafeteria
and
the
auditorium
saying
give
the
five
percent
back.
They
wanted.
So
what
we
caught
they
wanted
back
yeah,
so
we
gave
it
back
and
that
was
a
pretty
pretty
easy
decision
at
that
time.
Okay,
we
took
the
money.
Now
you
want
it
back,
fine,
don't
don't
come
to
us
and
say
cut
it
again,
because.
B
G
G
G
A
Think
you're
going
way
back
when
the
vin
mazzulli
rally
days
of
93.
You
know
and.
D
A
C
Yes,
there's
still
one
more
item
on
the
agenda
under
discussion:
accent,
action
sending
out
the
motor
vehicles
taxes
on
time.
A
So
one
thing
that
rose-
and
I
think
so
going
back
and
forth
on
email
motor
vehicle
taxes
has
zero
effect
on
motor
vehicle
taxes.
So
the
rate
is
still
the
28,
so
we'd
send
out
the
motor
vehicle
tax,
so
we'd
be
on
time
with
that,
and
that
would
also
keep
a
little
bit
of
revenue
coming
in.
Does
anybody
have
a
problem
with
that?
B
G
Yes,
it
extends
it
because
we
have
to
mail
out
the
bills.
Well,
motor
vehicle
will
mail
them
out
on
time.
Soon
we
will
be
going
out
the
same
time
as
motor
vehicle
as
well.
So
you'll
have
revenue
coming
in,
but
then
once
we're
hoping
that
the
budget
passes,
we
have
to
send
out
the
real,
the
real
estate
intangible.
G
A
2012,
that's
exactly
what
happened.
Yes,
it
went
out.
It
went
out
mid
july.
I
mean
end
of
july.
Everybody
thought
they
had
to
be
in
here
by
july
31st,
but
no
it'll
be
it'd,
probably
be
the
same
exact
effect
august
15th
to
august
31st.
Being
the
august
30th
31st
record.
G
And
also
we
have
an
insert
for
each
and
every
bill
being
mailed
out
to
state
that
they
no
longer
can
pay
their
taxes
at
the
banks
and
also
the
new
lock
box
address
that
their
bills
will
have
to
be
mailed
to
as
well,
because
that,
hopefully
we're
going
to
be
going
live
june.
30Th
is
the
going
live
date,
we've
had
training
and
it
all
the
testing
has
been
done
and
it's
been
going.
D
A
It
definitely
definitely
contacts
everybody,
it
doesn't
go
to
a
mortgage
company,
so
that's
good
and
they
can
see
that
sue
tax
doesn't
go
to
a
mortgage
company.
So
they'll
see
that.
G
Yeah
and
then
once
the
real
estate
and
tangible
bills
are
mailed,
we'll
send
out
and
we'll
put
something
in
the
newspaper
as
well,
stating
that
they
have
until
the
15th
of
august
and
also
the
reiterate,
the
lock
box
and
the
whole
nine
yards
of
that
so
and
then
we'll
also
post
it
on
the
website
as
well.
Perfect.
E
So
when
real
estate
goes
out,
if
it
goes
out
late,
when
will
the
chances
be
for
people
to
appeal.
C
No
it's
90
days
from
the
last
date.