►
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
B
B
D
Okay,
we
are
live.
Yes,
mr
chairman,
all
right
should
ask
that
before
we
called
ro,
so
our
first
bill
for
consideration
is
senate
file
157
and
I
think
the
the
sponsor
is
here.
I
would
like
for
him
to
walk
us
through
the
bill,
and
I
would
like
for
the
committee
to
listen
quote
closely,
see
if
there's
any
way,
we
can
anything
we
can
do
to
to
help
a
difficult
process
along
and
and
maybe
find
compromises.
E
Committee
senator
biteman
from
sheridan
county,
I
bring
you
senate
file,
157
property
rights
limitation
on
local
authority.
This
is
probably
going
to
be
the
most
important
property
rights
bill.
You're
going
to
see
this
session,
I
ask
for
your
favorable
vote
to
protect
private
property
from
governmental
overreach.
E
Basically,
the
focus
of
this
bill
can
be
summed
up
in
one
sentence.
You
can't
restrict
private
property
rights
by
sewer
connection
now
you're,
probably
thinking
what
in
the
world
are
we
doing
here
talking
about
sewers
at
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning
in
ag?
But
here
we
go
on
page
one.
The
bill
you'll
see
on
we're
going
into
15
7
101
paragraph
b,
not
withstanding
any
provision
of
this
title,
no
city
or
town
shall
condition
the
provision
of
any
public
improvement
under
subsection.
E
E
So,
the
town
withholds
permission
to
connect
to
the
sewer
plant
and
as
a
result,
you
lose
your
property
rights
and
can't
build
those
single
family
homes
that
you're
looking
at
that
is
restricting
private
property
rights
by
sewer
connection
so
annual.
You
might
hear
today
that
towns
need
freedom
to
develop
unique
solutions,
unique
solutions
to
restrict
property
rights.
I
ask
just
the
fact
that
a
town
is
fighting
this
bill,
so
hard
means
that
the
town
wants
freedom
to
restrict
property
rights
by
sewer.
E
I
ask
for
your
favorable
vote
and
pass
in
this
important
piece
of
legislation
and
I
will
point
out
on
the
engross
copy
that
you're
working
with
we
did
amend
this
pretty
pretty
good
in
the
how,
on
the
senate
side
originally
contemplated
counties,
we
took
counties
out.
E
We
added
some
some
amendments
to
just
make
the
bill
just
a
better
bill
and
and
more
concise
and
to
the
point,
so
I
believe
that's
all.
I
have
I'll
stand
for
any
questions
that
the
committee
may
have.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee
questions
for
senator
beitman.
F
Yes,
representative
heiner.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you
senator
for
being
here.
Could
you
explain
to
us
why
you
took
the
county
out
that
was
originally
in
the
in
the
bill.
E
Mr
chairman,
mr
heiner,
our
representative
heiner
they,
it
was
just
not
applicable
to
this
current
situation
that
that's
you'll,
hear
from
from
testimony
here
right,
quick
about
the
situation,
that's
going
on
and
the
remedy
for
that
situation,
and
so
the
county
was
not
needed
at
this
time,
so
took
it
out
of
the
bill.
Go
ahead.
F
E
Mr
chairman
representative
heiner,
yes,
we're
seeing
not
so
much
from
the
counties
now,
but
obviously
when,
when
there
anytime,
you
have
an
opportunity
for
people
to
over
overreach.
There's
going
to
be
that
opportunity.
So
we
just
kind
of
go
on
the
the
hope
that
they
don't
and
we'll
address
it
as
needed.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
there's
so
many
times
in
in
the
process
that
I'm
seeing
here
in
legislature
that
we're
leaving
the
judicial
process
out
we're
just
injecting
laws
in
top
and
more
laws.
Is
this
one
of
those
cases?
Has
this
been
litigated
or
is
there
any
chance
of
this
getting
litigated
in
the
courts
in
your
district
or
in
the
district
of
the
person?
That's
that's
wanting
to
the
the
body.
G
That's
wanting
to
change
these
laws
put
add
more
laws
on
top
of
what
we've
already
had,
because
we've
seen
it
in
the
racehorse
deal
upstairs
just
this
last
couple
days,
we've
seen
it
I've
seen
it
numerous
times
and
it
just
I'm
sort
of
in
awe
thinking.
Well,
we
got
it.
We
got
a
court
system
set
up,
but
we're
not
using
it
we're
just
injecting
more
laws
on
top
of
more
laws
and
to
me
that's
disturbing
because
we
got
a
process
in
place
already.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
E
Senator
mr
chairman,
to
address
that,
I
think
what
this
situation
is
brought
to
light
is:
is
the
need
to
kind
of
put
a
little
bit
of
reigns
on
what
we've
given
the
cities,
towns
and
counties
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
power,
a
lot
of
leeway
for
good
reason.
We
like
our
local
control
right,
but
when
that
control
gets
abused
to
the
point
where
they're,
devaluing
and
and
infringing
upon
your
private
property
rights,
it's
our
duty
as
a
legislature
to
step
in
and
fix
that
so
we've
given
them
that
authority.
E
D
H
Chair
I,
I
guess
I
would
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
what
restrictions
are
trying
the
town's
trying
to
put
on
the
development
that
we're
trying
to
address,
because
you
mentioned
some
things
to
me
that
I
don't
understand
how
that's
applicable
to
sewer.
Can
you
can
you
expand
a
little
bit
on
that?
For
me.
D
E
D
Yeah,
stick
around
and
and
we'll
kind
of
do
it
that
way.
I
think
we'll
get
a
more
effective
testimony
from
from
both
sides
having
them
come
up
and
and
tell
us
what's
happened,
so
we
will
start
with
mrs
gill
she's
the
affected
landowner
and
come
on
up
and
state
your
whole
name
and
and
tell
us
your
story.
I
I
I've
had
the
good
luck
to
work
as
an
intern
for
our
former
senator
enzi,
and
I
have
great
respect
for
the
legislative
work
you
do
as
fellow
citizens
to
serve.
Thank
you
for
protecting
wyoming
landowners.
Need
you
sf-157
is
in
your
committee
today,
because
private
property
rights
are
threatened
by
what
I
would
call
sewer
pipe
overreach.
I
I
I
I
I
D
H
Time
to
ask
the
question
that
I
asked
yeah,
I
think
so,
okay,
mr
chairman,
that,
ms
gill,
could
you
kind
of
go
into
a
little
bit,
keep
talking
about
how
they're
restricting
the
development,
how
how
have
they
restricted
that
development
based
on
the
sewer
capacity?
Could
you
go
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
for
me,
please.
C
I
Chairman
representative,
sorry,
I've
been
living
this,
so
I
understand
it
a
lot
better.
So
I
apologize
for
that.
The
deed,
restricted
homes
are
price,
reduced
homes
and
they're,
typically
in
jackson
and
teton
county,
under
the
government's
control
of
how
much
that
land
can
sell
for
how
much
it
can
resale
for
a
cap
on
how
much
the
individual
buying
the
home
can
earn
as
long
as
they're
as
well
as
their
spouse.
I
So
they
are
price,
reduced
homes
and
it
devalues
the
property.
So
it
would
be
a
devaluation
of
our
property
in
order
to
receive
a
hookup.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Ms
gill,
could
you
explain
some
of
the
some
of
the
attempts
you've
made
to
mitigate
this
or
come
to
consensus
with
the
town
prior
to
coming
here.
I
I
And
even
though
it's
the
same
request
that
our
engineers
have
always
submitted,
and
so
we've
been
dragged
along,
and
it
has
been
very
hard
to
meet
with
the
staff
and
the
representatives
of
the
town
of
jackson.
I
Chairman
representative,
we
are
really
hoping
it
doesn't
come
to
that.
That
would
be
a
huge
financial
burden
to
my
family.
It
would
simply
require
funds
that
we
don't
have
to
protect
rights
that
we
currently
possess
on
our
land.
G
The
single
family,
home
concept
is
the
pipe
with
the
piping
be
for
the
sewer
be
big
enough
to
do
a
multi-family
home
later
on
in
case
a
single
family
moved
out
is
maybe
is
that
what
the
county
is
looking
at
is
down
the
road.
The
bigger
more
people
per
residence
needing
bigger
line
could
could
that
be
a
factor.
I
G
Have
you
talked
with
the
the
county
extensively
about
maybe
meeting
them
halfway
doing
on
a
pipe,
that's
maybe
in
between
the
size,
you
look
you're
doing
a
four
inch
or
six
inch
or
two
inch
and
a
six
inch
or
I
don't
know
what
the
requirements
are.
Is
there
any
way
you
guys
can
can
come
to
a
compromise
on
that
or
or
no.
I
Chairman
representative,
the
pipeline
actually
runs
through
our
ranch
currently,
and
it
was
granted
to
the
town.
An
easement
was
granted
by
my
grandfather
to
the
town
of
jackson
for
the
sewer
pipe
for
free
when
it
went
in.
So
there
is
a
pipe
that
currently
exists
on
our
ranch.
That
runs
all
the
way
through
from
the
town
of
jackson
through
our
ranch
to
the
sewer
plant.
That
has
enough
capacity
for
this
development
plus
future
density.
C
L
Just
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Ms
gill,
could
you
explain
a
little
bit?
Maybe
if
you
know
what
relationship
the
county
commissioners
have
with
the
city
authorities
and
have
they
been
trying
to
make
any
deals
or
concessions
or
trying
to
work
things
out
for
your
benefit
or
for
the
benefit
of
any
other
person
that
might
want
to
do
this.
I
Chairman
representative,
I
do
not
believe
so
to
my
knowledge,
I
am
not
sure
that
there
has
been
any
agreement
or
any
effort
made,
but
I'm
not
entirely
sure.
D
M
I
Chairman
representative,
we
have
not
yet
been
denied,
we
have
been
delayed
and
delayed
and
delayed,
and
there
is
an
effort
being
made
to
prolong
this
process,
making
the
process
the
punishment
for
my
family
and
for
our
land
and
holding
it
in
limbo.
M
I
Chairman
representative,
so
aside
from
this
26
acres,
it's
in
question
that
we
have
zoned
and
has
been
zoned
suburban
for
26
years.
Roughly
a
year
ago,
we
proposed
another
rezone
request
for
74
acres
of
our
land.
I
I
Chairman,
that
is
the
main
point,
is
that
deed
restriction
is
what
they
want
to
put
on
the
land,
rather
than
allowing
it
to
be
84
units
of
free
market.
They
are
holding
us
over
a
barrel
asking
us
to
provide
deed
restrictions,
even
though
the
zoning
and
the
land
development
regulations
do
not
require
it.
I
Chairman,
the
deed
restrictions
are
devalued.
Lots
that
would
be
the
restriction
is
selling
lots
at
a
discount.
I
D
All
right
any
any,
representing
western.
I
Chairman
representative,
I'm
not
sure
about
the
timeline
of
reapplying
for
a
sewer
hookup.
Our
sketch
plan
approval
by
the
county
has
a
two-year
time
limit
so
that
that
is
banked
for
two
years.
After
that
the
sketch
plan,
approval
of
our
development
no
longer
exists,
and
then
we
would
have
to
reapply
for
a
sketch
plan
approval
from
the
county.
M
I
Sure,
chairman
representative,
this
may
be
a
little
bit
out
of
my
wheelhouse,
even
though
I
was
part
of
it,
but
I'll
give
you
the
my
dumb
down
version
from
my
understanding.
So
you
submit
very
a
concept,
development
plan
or
sketch
plan
of
roughly
how
many
units,
roughly
the
layout
and
the
density,
and
we
didn't
ask
for
anything
above
and
beyond
what
we
were
currently
legally
zoned,
what
we
were
legally
allowed.
So
there
were
no
other
asks.
I
There
were
conditions
put
on
our
approval
by
the
county
commissioners,
which
we
agreed
with,
one
of
which
was
our
requirement
to
connect
to
town,
water
and
sewer,
and
so
that
was
approved
and
after
the
sketch
plan
approval,
then
you
go
into
development
plan,
which
is
much
more
intense.
It's
much
more
detailed,
and
in
order
to
get
to
that
phase,
we
have
to
have
a
letter
of
intent
to
allow
us
to
hook
up
to
municipal
water
and
sewer.
D
N
I
Representative,
in
order
to
be
annexed,
you
have
to
have
permission
from
the
landowner
and
we
would
need
to
get
further
along.
N
Go
ahead
representation.
Are
you
considering
smaller
lots,
then,
if,
if
they,
if
their
requirement
keeps
going
forward,
is
that
a
possibility.
I
Chairman
representative,
we
proposed
smaller
lots
in
our
previous
rezone
request,
so
that
has
been
proposed
as
far
as
this
development.
We
prefer
for
it
to
stay
as
it's
currently
zoned
we've
planned
using
that
land
and
that
zoning
it's
been
there
for
nearly
30
years.
It's
been
a
huge
part
of
our
estate
planning
process,
like
many
ranchers
in
this
state,
we've
relied
on
that
density
and
and
those
entitlements
to
be
able
to
pass
the
ranch
on
to
our
next
generation.
D
O
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'm
matt
hall,
I'm
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
cody
and
the
president
of
the
wyoming
association
of
municipalities.
D
Okay,
we'll
do
it
that
way,
carla
can
you
bring
her
in
for
us?
Please.
P
It
managing
in
person
and
online
is
difficult
good
morning,
honorable
representatives,
thank
you
for
your
service
to
our
great
state
and
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
this
morning.
My
name
is
haley
morton
levinson,
and
I
am
mayor
of
jackson
and
former
town
council
member
for
eight
years.
P
My
family
has
been
in
the
hospitality
industry
in
wyoming
all
my
life,
and
I
recognize
the
hard
work
and
sacrifices
our
small
business
families
make
to
survive
senate
file.
157
is
a
bill
addressing
a
problem
that
does
not
exist
and
is
based
on
fear.
Not
fact.
No
restrictions
have
been
put
on
this
application.
P
P
P
This
bill
is
based
on
speculation
and
worry
from
what
might
come
to
pass.
As
you
know,
what
matters
is
not
what
staff
are
elected
say,
but
what
the
body
of
elected
officials
vote
on
the
final
vote
is
the
answer.
Our
council.
Our
council,
has
not
voted
on
this
proposal,
as
mentioned
the
application
process
and
is
in
process,
and
as
such
we
have
not
had
a
review
of
the
proposal
in
our
public
process.
P
P
M
P
D
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
mayor
for
being
here,
although
remotely
that's,
that's
we're
grateful
to
have
this
technology
to
be
able
to
link
you
in
like
this.
F
In
your
experience
or
knowledge,
has
there
ever
been
any
applications
that
were
that
required
deed
restrictions
to
be
able
to
hook
up
to
the
sewer
or
water
system?
In
the
past.
P
P
The
this
case
so
we're
reviewing
a
the
the
applicant,
has
submitted
water
and
sewer
hookup
for
their
24
acres,
which
I
believe
is
about
84
units
of
market
homes,
and
there
have
been
no
restrictions
put
in
place.
P
There
has
been
a
community
discussion
about
the
other
acres
that
this
applicant
has
and
that
came
about
when
the
applicant
asked
for
an
up
zone
and
rezone
of
that
property,
and
that
is
separate
from
what
we're
discussing
in
this
water
and
sewer
application.
D
H
Yeah,
mr
chairman,
I'm
not
sure
that
this
is
a
fair
question
to
ask
the
americas.
This
is
off
a
letter
that
was
in
our
packet
that
came
from
wyoming
planning
association
wild
pass,
but
in
that
letter
they
say
they
talked
about.
Communities
should
not
be
obligated
to
subsidize
new
extra
territorial
developments,
which
are
not
sustainable
and
do
not
protect
current
tax
paying
customers.
H
Is
it
your
view,
madam
mayor,
that
that
it
is
your
duty
to
protect
the
current
tax,
paying
customers
by
how
properties
are
developed
and
sold
in
your
community.
H
P
D
D
N
Chairman,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
here
mayor.
Does
the
town
of
jackson
have
a
planning
committee
that
that
would
go
through
these
issues
prior
to
going
to
the
council.
P
We
do
we're
we're
the
only
county
that
has
one
municipality
and,
as
such,
we
have
monthly
meetings
with
our
county
commissioners,
and
this
has
been
an
item-
that's
been
discussed,
although
we
did,
the
sketch
plan
was
submitted
through
the
county,
not
the
town,
and
so
we
allowed
that
county
process
to
play
out
and
then
waited
to
see
what
would
come
from
that
to
end
to
receive
the
application
in
late
january
and
then
are
in
process
with
this
application.
Now.
N
Yeah,
I
guess
I
you
hit
on
a
point
there
that
part
of
these
this
delay
is
maybe
because
of
the
county.
P
I
mean
perhaps
the
then
they
did
submit
the
applicant
submitted.
The
application
before
the
county
had
approved
the
sketch
plan,
and
so
that
was
in
late
january
and
I
believe
the
county
approved
the
sketch
plan,
maybe
mid-february.
But
I
can't
remember
the
exact.
P
I
can't
speak
for
the
town
council
since
we
have
not
reviewed
it
as
a
body
together,
as
I
said
that
we
will
be
reviewing
it
on
may
3rd.
If
everything
goes
through
the
process
and
we
will
have
the
discussion
then
in
public.
P
You
know,
as
I
also
mentioned,
we've
never
denied
a
application
for
water
and
sewer
hookup.
In
my
eight
years
on
the
council,
we
have
reviewed
and
approved
water
and
sewer
hookup
outside
of
the
town's
juris
jurisdiction,
including
one
of
our
new
schools,
the
airport
and
a
private
school.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
mayor,
so
my
question:
if
we've
never
denied
any
permits
and
and
this
isn't
an
issue
for
municipalities
and
they
don't
they
don't
zone
using
the
sewer
pipe,
do
you
do
you
see
any
problem,
bringing
some
certainty
to
our
investors
and
developers
in
wyoming
by
by
passing
this
bill,
just
making
sure
so
so
everybody's
certain
that
that's
the
way
it's
going
to
go
forward
and
and
that
their
investment
is
safe
because
there's
massive
investment
when
we
start
talking
60
80
home
developments.
P
For
sure,
thank
you
for
that
question.
You
know
I
I
would
say
that
we've
never
denied
and
that's
because
we've
have
the
capacity
and
have
and
know
that
water
hooking
up
to
municipal
water
and
sewer
is
the
best
environmental
action.
P
But
it's
it's
just
that
opportunity
in
the
future
to
be
able
to
keep
these
close
to
home.
Be
able
to
have
the
community
conversation,
be
able
to
work
it
through
with
individual
applicants
and
to
address
it
when
they
come
from
out
of
the
service
area
and
adding
it
into
the
town
is
just
something
that
we
feel
very
strongly
about.
Keeping
within
the
town's
jurisdiction.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
mayor
with
the
information
that
you
have
in
hand
right
now,
mayor
and
with
this
application,
and
I
realize
that
you're
not
going
to
meet
with
the
town
council
in
regard
to
this
application
until
may,
but
with
the
information
that
you
have
today,
could
you
go
on
record
as
saying?
Is
that
you're
supportive
of
this
application
without
any
further
any
deed
restrictions
on
this
lot
or
the
rest
of
the
ranch.
P
K
D
P
Yes,
so
there's,
as
I
mentioned
before,
there's
a
few
different
moving
pieces
specifically
for
this
item.
This
sketch
plan,
I'm
not
sure
when
it
was
submitted
to
the
county,
but
the
discussions
with
the
county
happened
in
january
and
february
and
then
their
application
to
the
town
came
in
late
january.
I
believe
january
28th
for
this
specific
section
of
the
property.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
mayor.
I
know
different
municipalities
do
things
different
ways,
but
when
a
developer
goes
in
and
develops
raw
land
like
this
is
the
city
in
charge
of
paying
for
the
sewer,
hookups
and
everything
or
the
sewer
inside
of
there
or
the
developer
in
our
county.
It's
the
developer,
that's
in
it
that's
charged
with
the
cost
of
all
of
the
sewer
and
everything,
but
the
plant
capacity
is
it.
Would
that
be
similar?
Or
do
you
guys
have
a
different
setup.
H
Represent
representative
yeah,
mr
chairman,
I
was
just
wondering
what
the
average
time
period
is
for
an
application
to
be
started
and
and
to
get
to
completion.
If
we
give
you
that
answer,
please.
D
P
L
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
mayor.
My
question
is,
and
I
get
a
little
confused
here,
but
this
we've
had
testimony
today
that
the
application
was
made
in
october
and
now
you're
saying
that
was
it
wasn't
until
january
and
you
won't
be
able
to
get
any
decisions
until
in
may.
Does
that
seem
a
little
bit
skew
office
here.
P
I
I
don't
think
so,
and
I
don't
know
of
the
application
in
october
and
again
I
would
refer
to
staff.
As
far
as
I
know,
the
application
that
we're
reviewing
with
staff
right
now
and
the
applicant's
staff
was
submitted
in
late
january.
P
P
R
R
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
carla,
mr
chairman.
In
community
members
good
morning,
hi,
my
name
is
larry
pardee
and
I
serve
as
the
town
of
jackson's
town
administrator
on
behalf
of
the
town
of
jackson.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
This
morning,
you've
been
hearing
quite
a
bit
about
senate
file
157
by
this
time,
the
bill
is
dealing
with
a
specific
issue
in
a
specific
place:
jackson
wyoming.
The
issue
is
seeking
to
address
whether
or
not
the
town
of
jackson's
wastewater
treatment
plant
has
capacity
to
handle
84
homes.
R
R
Please
note
that
that's
very
important,
the
town,
the
towns,
waste
water
treatment
plant
system
is
part
of
a
greater
larger
system
and
we're
working
at
this
time
to
understand
water
and
sewer
systems
and
the
capacity
to
handle
those
systems
based
on
current
and
future
growth.
R
We're
currently
in
the
process
of
performing
a
capacity
study
that
started
almost
24
months
ago,
because
it
was
tied
to
a
rate
study
in
a
capacity
study.
We
finished
the
rate
first
now
we're
trying
to
follow
up
and
finish
our
capacity
component
of
the
study,
which
will
be
completed
here
in
may
and
june,
and
the
84
homes
happen
to
pop
up
this
development
popped
up.
R
During
that
time,
our
preference
would
be
to
wait
until
the
capacity
study
is
completed
before
evaluating
any
new
hookups
outside
of
town
limits,
because
this
issue
is
so
important
to
the
local
landowners.
We
are
considering
this
application
right
now
before
the
study
is
fully
completed,
evaluated
and
presented
to
the
jackson
town
council
for
acceptance
and
approval.
R
R
Currently,
the
town
is
trying
to
figure
out
how
the
community
is
going
to
grow
and
whether
the
pipes,
the
pieces
of
systems,
water,
sewer
pipes,
wells
pumps,
lift
stations,
you
understand
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
everything
it
takes
to
operate.
Those
systems
can
handle
the
current
and
future
growth.
R
R
R
R
Please
note
in
conclusion:
this
isn't
whether
our
wastewater
treatment
plant
has
capacity.
It
absolutely
has
capacity.
We
have
never
stated
that
these
84
homes
are
well
within
the
capacity
right
now
of
the
plant.
It
is
our
local
systems
around
this
area
of
development
that
are
lacking
our
waterline
sewer
lines.
Should
this
development
happen
and
connect,
we
will
have
to
look
at
upgrading
and
what
those
costs
will
be
and
the
impacts
those
generate
so
that
it's
not
borne
by
the
public
but
by
the
application.
R
This
is
this
isn't
about
the
capacity
of
the
plant.
This
is
about
whether
jackson's
water
and
sewer
systems
have
capacity
for
the
next
50
years
of
growth.
The
town
of
jackson
is
never
ever
denied
a
water
sewer,
hookup
request
in
our
history.
Ever
we
hear
and
understand
the
request
from
this
applicant
on
their
84
units.
We
respect
it.
We
heard
it,
they
just
got
their
approval
in
february
we
are
processing
the
requests
in
a
timely,
respectful
and
professional
manner.
R
We
believe
this
bill
is
premature
at
this
time.
We
respectfully
request
that
you
allow
our
local
process
to
play
out.
Thank
you,
chairman
eklund,
all
of
the
committee
members.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
dedication,
your
service,
to
this
great
state
of
wyoming.
Thank
you
again.
We
stand
ready
for
questions
representative,
claussen.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
mr
pardee,
so
I'm
assuming
you
have
an
enterprise
fund
to
run
your
water
and
sewer
in
the
town
of
jackson,
and
I'm
assuming
you
keep
your
statutory
reserves
up
there,
where
you
have
some
sort
of
reserves
to
take
care
when
these
problems
arise
or
a
plan
going
forward
with
your
enterprise
fund
for
for
billing
is.
Is
that
something
that
is
fairly
accurate?
Thank
you,
mr
trump.
R
Mr
chairman,
representative
claussen,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Absolutely
our
water
and
sewer
systems
are
enterprise
funds
and
they're
self-sustaining
by
state
statute.
We
follow
the
laws.
Yes,
we
have
relatively
healthy
fund
balances,
and
that
was
part
of
our
rate
and
capacity
study
because
we're
looking
at
the
future-
and
we
had
to
make
sure
our
current
rates
or
future
rates
would
meet
the
new
demands
and
growth
being
placed
on
us.
Yes,
we
do
have
a
sewer
plant
or
excuse
me.
Water
and
sewer
fund
balances.
F
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you,
mr
pardee,
for
being
here
with
us
today,
as
you
mentioned
that
you
believe
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
is
has
adequate
capacity,
and
it
may
just
be
some
of
these
outlying
areas
that
need
to
be
looked
at
a
little
bit.
But,
as
you
have
looked
at
this
application,
I'll
ask
you
the
same
question
I
asked
of
the
mayor
based
on
what
you've
seen
thus
far.
R
Mr
chairman,
representative
heiner,
thank
you
for
your
question.
I
I
can't
speak
to
the
elected
officials
in
policy
decision
making.
I
can
talk
as
a
former
director
of
public
works
has
spent
close
to
40
years
of
his
life
in
working
in
public
works,
and
I've
served
the
last
few
years
as
the
town
administrator.
I
can
talk
from
my
perspective
in
my
position,
but
I
have
no
authority
to
make
policy
decisions
on
need,
restrictions
and
others.
R
R
We
need
to
spend
a
little
time
and
look
closer
put
the
microscope
on
and
we'll
start
that
this
afternoon,
with
their
engineers
is
the
supporting
systems
in
the
area.
It's
the
waterline
sewer
lines,
lift
stations,
and
so
on.
Those
are
the
areas
we
need
to
make
sure
we
don't
have
any
deficiencies
and
that
we
account
for
whatever
the
costs
are.
As
for
the
deed
restrictions,
I
will
leave
those
decisions
to
the
policy
makers,
but
I
feel
comfortable
based
on
what
I've
seen
again.
R
I've
I've
not
received
any
information
in
a
written
letter
and
I've
spoken
to
their
attorney,
their
planning
staff
and
their
engineer
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
for
a
few
hours
again,
I
think
haley
martin
levinson,
our
mayor,
articulated
perfectly.
R
G
Thank
you
chairman,
thanks
for
being
here
with
us
this
morning,
larry
perdue.
What
my
question
is-
and
I
think
I've
heard
it
a
little
bit
hard
hearing,
but
I
think
I
heard
it
already
once
or
twice
this
morning.
G
R
Mr
chairman,
thank
you,
representative
frontier.
I
apologize.
I
don't
quite
understand
the
question.
If
you
could
please
restate
it.
G
Mr
chairman,
what
I'm
getting
at
is
is
as
we
go
and
I
live
just
not
too
far
up
in
the
county
line
when
they,
when
they
place
covenances
and
and
restrictions
on
on
limitations
on
on
your
guys
standards,
your
own
city
standards
and
county
standards
that
that's
supposed
to
be
for
safety
and
protection
of
the
groundwaters,
and
things
like
that.
I
realize
that,
but
it
seems
to
me
like,
when
you
live
close
to
a
city.
G
R
Mr
chairman,
representative
frontier,
thank
you
for
the
question
I
apologize.
I
I
cannot
speak
knowledgeably
to
that
any
particular
issues
around
that
question.
I
would
have
to
defer
to
others,
maybe
our
planning
staff
or
the
county
planning
staff
to
better
answer
your
questions
from
my
apologies.
Are
they
available.
R
R
I
think
it
would.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
I
think
the
question
is
well
suited
for
teton,
county
or
county
planning
departments.
Okay,
not
for
the
local
municipalities
we
can
talk
about.
There
is
some
differences
and
I
understand
the
general
question,
but
would
have
to
really
rely
more
on
teton
county
to
provide
a
more
accurate
and
updated
answer
to
that
question.
Q
Not
a
question
but
I'll
just
take
a
stab
at
that,
so
there's
a
unique
equations
with
teton
county
that
are
probably
different
than
york
county.
Less
than
three
percent
of
less
than
three
or
five
percent
of
the
land
is
needed
in
teton
county
and
it's
more
dense.
You'd
have
different
issues
in
campbell
county.
But
it's
been
that's
a
long
subject.
Probably
not
the
venue
to
go
down
that
road.
R
Mr
chairman,
I
can
help
address
representative
claussen's
question
if
the
97
of
teton
county
is
federally
and
state
protected
lands
obviously
made
up
of
the
national
parks,
forest
services
and
so
on.
The
remaining
three
percent
potentially
has
development.
R
D
J
D
We
might
want
to
hear
from
him,
okay
and
and
I'm
going
to
get
some
mayors
and
former
mayors
in
involved
in
this.
They
might
be
next,
I'm
I'm
not
sure
do
we
have
other
people
on
online
right
now,
nobody,
okay,
I
I
don't
see
any
hands
up
there,
so
I
guess
the
the
next
place.
I'd
like
to
start
is
with
representatives
for
mayors
and
and
those
local
governments,
as
well
as
mayors
and
former
mayors,
we'll
go
with
that
group
of
people.
First
come
on
up,
sir.
It's
your
turn
now.
O
O
And,
mr
chairman,
I
I
I
just
want
to
say
first
that
we
certainly-
or
I
personally
can
sympathize
with
miss
gills
and
her
family's
plight.
I
also
do
want
to
say
that
local
governments
aren't
against
freedom.
I
think
we're
very
much
in
favor
of
it
and
I
think
that's
a
lot
of
what
the
reasons
for
us
testifying
today
here
is
that
you
know
when
you,
when
you
make
some
of
these
legislative
calls
for
these
specific
kind
of
issues
within
the
state
they
have.
The
repercussions
of
affecting
all
of
the
municipalities
within
our
state.
O
This
this
bill
being
proposed
is
a
single
development
in
jackson.
It
certainly
isn't
uniformly
applicable.
O
O
So
I
would.
I
would
urge
you
to
consider
all
the
other
municipalities,
municipalities
and
even
counties
that
you
represent
and
and
vote
no
and
not
move
this
bill
forward
at
this
time,
and
with
that
I
would
take
questions
and
certainly
seed
time
to
the
other
representatives
here
on
the
panel.
Thank
you,
representative,.
J
O
Like
cheyenne
or
gillette,
I
would
have
to
I'd
have
to
ask
those
mayors
to
probably
answer
those
specific
questions
as
it
pertains
to
the
city
of
cody
it.
It
wouldn't
really
be
applicable,
as
I
mentioned,
and
I
guess
that's
probably
where
I
was
drawing
from
when
I
said
that
representative
blackburn.
Thank
you.
H
Representative
wharf,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
was
wondering,
are
you
aware
of
these
deed
restrictions
being
used
or,
if
they've
occurred
in
other
municipalities
throughout
the
state?
Thank
you.
S
O
It
doesn't
embody
me
with
all
the
information
on
what's
going
with
all
of
our
municipalities
as
far
as
those
deed
restrictions
work
again
for
the
city
of
cody,
we
don't
use
this
tool
quite
yet
we
we're
certainly
not
and
getting
back
to
the
point,
we're
not
really
faced
with
the
same
problems
that
teton,
county
and
jackson
are
and-
and
we
I
think
most
of
the
counties
and
municipalities
have
a
pretty
good
working
relationship
and
and
ours
is
pretty
good
up
in
park.
O
So
as
it
stands
right
now,
we
don't
have
any
of
those
kind
of
restrictions.
H
Mr
chairman,
I'm
going
to
pull
it
back
to
what
I
think
the
discussion
should
be.
This
bill
is
dealing
with
private
property
rights
and-
and
I
guess
the
concern
that
I
share
is-
I
mean
we've
kind
of
gotten
off
toward
just
talking
about
one
specific
issue
and-
and
I
think
this
bill
addresses
infringement
on
private
property
rights
and
if,
in
fact,
we
are
giving
the
municipalities
the
ability
to
put
deed
restrictions
on
the
development
of
your
private
property
to
protect
the
local
tax,
paying
consumers.
H
I
don't
own
a
lot
of
property,
but
I
guarantee,
if
I
did,
I
would
want
to
have
the
ability
to
develop
those
properties
to
the
best
ability
to
benefit
my
family
and
that's
the
purpose
that
I
understand
this
bill.
That's
before
us
is
dealing
with
the
impacts
on
private
property
rights,
so
I
just
want
to
mention
that
the
committee-
I
think
it's
important,
if
that's
in
fact
the
case,
and
I
throw
that
out
to
anybody,
you
got
two
other
people
up
there,
helping
you.
D
The
questions
that
we're
asking
we're
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
that
is
as
to
how
much
private
property
interference
there
has
been
in
this,
and,
and
I
I
correct
that-
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
testimony
that
will
help
us
in
in
determining
that
representative
fortner.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
we're
in
a
huge
economic
downturn
right
now
and
host
of
wyoming
revolves
around
fossil
fuels.
G
I
know
over
ketone
county
a
few
other
ones,
that's,
but
they
don't
that's
not
part
of
the
equation
but
as
as
things
go
backwards
and
I've
worked
in
ghost
towns
all
over
this
state
and
colorado
and
montana,
as
things
go
as
the
population
goes
backwards,
or
these
restrictions
are
going
to
come
off
or
they
just
going
to
be
hard
and
fast
from
here
on
out,
because,
if
they're,
if
they're
not
flexible
one
way
or
the
other,
that's
not
going
to
be
good
for
the
guy
later
on,
coming
in
wanting
to
buy
a
wrench
and
he's
got
10
times
more
restrictions
on
him
than
the
neighbor
down
the
road.
O
As
my
counsel,
we,
whenever
we
entertain
an
ordinance
and
passing
an
ordinance,
we
have
to
look
at
all
sides
of
it
and
how
this
is
going
to
affect
people
and
and
and
carry
it
in
our
in
our
hearts
up
front
that
you
know
we
are.
We
are
for
property
rights,
we're
for
individual
property
rights
in
this
state.
O
Most
of
my
council
is
very
conservative
and-
and
we
we
have
a
really
hard
time.
In
fact,
that's
part
of
the
reason
we
probably
don't
have
some
of
the
deed
restrictions
that
exist
in
some
of
the
other
towns
and
counties,
but
but
I
I
feel
that,
as
the
state
evolves
and
and
as
the
economy
hopefully
turns
around,
then
you
know
we
leave
it
up
to
our
local
representatives
too,
to
do
the
best
they
can
to
to
help
represent
their
citizens
and
and
represent
the
needs
of
their
their
towns
and
counties.
O
G
You
thank
you
chairman.
I
guess
my
question
is
has
it
happened?
Has
has
in
these
downturns
for
these
ghost
towns
is
that
have
they
rescinded
all
the
restrictions
of
the
towns
and
turned
them
back
to
the
local
owner
or
other
restrictions
still
in
place?
I
guess
that's
a
question.
I've
been
asking.
Thank
you.
O
D
D
Well,
if
that's
okay,
we're
expanding
the
problem
a
bit
because
we're
the
the
communities
that
are
impacted
by
the
downturner
are
kind
of
separate
from
this
issue,
which
is
communities
that
are
booming
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
cope
with
that.
T
But
go
ahead
and
take
a
stab
at
it.
Mr
chairman,
do
it
sure
there's
a
number
of
types
of
deed
restrictions
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
the
weeds
on
this,
but
there
typically
there's
permanent
deed
restrictions,
and
then
the
town
or
the
county
in
the
past
has
had
deed
restrictions
that
expire
after
a
fixed
period
of
time.
T
You
know
the
price
of
a
deed,
restricted
unit
is
somewhere
between
250
and
300
000
and
that's
for
a
unit
with
a
price
appreciation,
cap
and
restrictions
on
who
can
live
there.
These
units
are
put
in
place
to
ensure
that
the
workforce
can
live
in
jackson,
hole
right
now,
probably
50
to
60
percent
of
the
workforce,
commutes
from
either
over
teton
pass
or
up
the
snake
river
canyon,
so
affordable,
housing
in
jackson
hold
is
a
way
to
provide
for
our
local
economy.
T
That's
where
the
police
officers
live.
If
you
look
at
the
number
of
units
that
are,
in
deed,
restricted,
affordable
housing
in
teton
county,
the
sheriff
lives
in
a
deed,
restricted,
affordable
house,
otherwise
he
couldn't
afford
to
live
in
teton
county,
the
county
clerk,
a
number
of
our
law
enforcement
officers,
many
of
our
firefighters
and
many
of
our
service
workers
who,
but
for
deed,
restricted,
affordable
housing
would
be
forced
to
commute
down
valley
and
over
teton
pass.
But
to
answer
your
question
representative,
some
have
come
off
most
have
not.
D
D
So
when
these
these
deed
restricted
parcels,
they
were,
they
were
done
by
agreement
of
the
property
owner
and
the
developer.
T
Mr
chairman,
most
of
these
either
in
because
both
teton
county
and
the
town
of
jackson
have
affordable
housing
regulations
so
that
when
you
build
a
business
that
generates
the
need
for
workforce
housing,
you
have
to
provide.
T
If
your
business
generates
a
hundred
new
employees,
you
would
have
to
provide
housing
for
approximately
15
of
those
100
new
employees.
So
I'm
sorry,
I
forgot
the
question.
D
T
This
case
is
a
little
bit
different
because
it's
the
development
is
not
going
through
the
town
development
review
process,
it's
going
through
the
county
development
review
process,
but
either
in
a
county
review
process
or
a
town
review
process,
a
development
would
be
subject
to
a
number
of
restrictions
and
affordable
housing
is
one
of
them
and
the
the
the
level
of
affordable,
affordable
housing
that
is
required
is
a
function
of
the
the
generate
of
the
job
generation
and
a
couple
of
other
factors.
T
So
this
is
a
little
unusual
because
it's
not
being
it's
not
going
through
the
town
process,
but
generally
it's
part
of
the
of
the
development
review
process.
When
a
development
comes
in
to
either
the
town
or
the
county.
F
So
in
a
typical
development,
is
it
common
to
ask
a
developer
to
provide
some
deed
restrictions
on
part
of
the
of
the
property
such
that
you
could
not
only
develop
but
hook
into
the
utility
systems
like
this?
Is
this?
Is
this
pretty
typical
to
ask
them
for
deed
restrictions
as
part
of
the
application.
T
Mr
chairman
representative,
that's
typically
part
of
the
process
there
there
will
be
a
calculation
for
an
affordable
housing
requirement
and
you
can
either
provide
it
or
you
can
pay
into
a
housing
fund
and
then
those
the
the
county
housing
department
will
facilitate
the
development
of
some
of
these
housing
units.
T
There
are
about
1500
deed,
restricted
units
in
our
community
right
now
I,
but
for
those
units,
probably
85
percent
90
of
the
local
workers
would
be
commuting
in
over
teton
pass
and
up
the
canyon
to
make
the
economy
work,
deed,
restricted,
affordable,
housing
in
jackson,
wyoming
is
economic
development.
I
know
it's
different
than
any
other
place
in
wyoming,
but
without
that
we
do
not
have
a
workforce
that
includes
public
safety.
That
includes
restaurant
workers.
T
T
T
I
worked
in
bale
colorado
as
a
town
manager.
Before
I
came
here,
I
was
told
by
a
guy
that
was
moving
from
bale
to
jackson
that
he
paid
for
his
house
in
teton
village,
with
the
savings
on
his
income
tax,
so
by
virtue
of
the
of
our
tax
structure,
we're
driving
up
the
price
of
land-
and
this
is
a
hard
issue
for
me
personally,
because
this
family
is
a
long-standing
family
in
jackson.
They've
been
great
stewards.
T
I
knew
mrs
gill's
fault,
mrs
gill's
father.
I
consider
him
a
friend,
maybe
not
anymore,
but
I've
known
him
for
a
long
time
and
her
grandfather
was
the
mayor
for
two
terms.
Sat
on
the
county.
Commission
was
a
highway
commissioner,
and
her
great
grandfather
was
a
member
of
this
body,
robert
bruce
porter.
T
So
but
this
issue-
I
don't
want
to
you-
know
the
the
deed,
restricted,
affordable,
housing
issues,
a
much
broader
issue
than
what's
going
on
with
this
development,
because
I
would
submit
to
you,
as
you've,
heard
from
the
town
of
jackson.
They've
never
turned
anybody
down
and
on
the
outside
chance,
this
bill
doesn't
go
anywhere.
T
D
Not
just
geographically,
it's
unique
because
you
got
97
of
it
is
owned
by
the
federal
government
and
you're
operating
on
three
percent
part
of
part
of
that
three
percent
we're
discussing
today.
I
believe-
and
it
would
be
my
hope-
that
there
are
no
ill
feelings
between
families
over
this
and
that's
part
of
why
we'd
like
to
get
this
bill.
D
If,
if
we
pass
it
or
we
amend
it
or
fix
it
in
some
way,
it
works
for
both
sides
and
and
that's
the
reason
for
all
the
questions,
and
it
may
take
up
our
whole
time
doing
this.
But
it's
worth
the
time
I
just
hate
to
see
communities
and
families
torn
apart
over
over
issues
that
can
be
resolved.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
to
to
mayor
collins.
It
has
been
testified
that
this
doesn't
affect
any
other
municipalities,
but
here
I
see
you
sit
so
I'm
assuming
that
it
does
have
some.
J
The
cheyenne
municipality
does
have
some
problems
with
it.
Could
you
maybe
fill
us
in
with
your
concerns.
M
Mr
chairman,
I'm
patrick
collins,
I'm
the
new
mayor
of
cheyenne,
I'm
in
my
first
100
days,
and
so
I'm
still
trying
to
get
my
feet
wet
on
all
of
the
issues
that
are
coming
forward.
I
did
spend
three
year
terms
on
the
city
council
and
most
of
those
I
spent
on
our
public
services
committee.
So
I've
been
through
a
lot
of
development.
That's
come
through
our
process
and
I
guess
the
concern
that
I
came
to
see.
Representative
blackburn
yesterday,
when
I
was
reading
this
bill
is,
I
didn't
understand
it.
M
I'm
still
not
quite
sure
I
understand
exactly
what's
going
on,
but
my
concern
was
that
it
seems
like
there
was
a
dispute
going
on
between
a
developer
and
a
town,
and
a
law
was
being
written
to
correct
that
the
perceived
problem
between
those
two
entities-
and
I
didn't
understand-
I'm
trying
to
understand
what
the
second
and
third
order
effects
would
be.
How
would
this
affect
the
other
98
municipalities
in
the
city
or
in
the
state?
Excuse
me,
you
know
we.
M
We
sit
down
a
lot
with
with
developers
the
loomis
family
just
brought
2500
acres
of
property
into
the
city
that
they
plan
to
build
homes
on,
and
we
have
to
sit
down
and
talk
about.
You
know:
where
do
you
put
a
fire
station?
Where
do
you
put
a
high
school?
Where
do
you
put
the
three
junior,
the
junior
high
school,
the
three
grade?
M
Schools,
all
those
things
we
have
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
if
you're
going
to
bring
a
large
piece
of
property
in
and
what
I
wanted
to
make
sure
was
that
this
bill
wouldn't
affect
our
ability
to
sit
down
with
property
owners
and
do
those
annexation
agreements.
Those
zoning
agreements
that
we
need
to
do
to
make
sure
that
we
can
properly
plan
how
our
city
grows.
We're
going
to
have
a
new
piece
of
property
start
to
come
in
we're
building
a
new
sewer
line
that
should
sewer
about
35
000
homes.
M
You
know
the
school
district's
told
me:
we're
gonna
need
two
high
schools:
two
junior
high
schools,
a
whole
bunch
of
great
schools,
a
couple
fire
stations
in
this
area
over
the
next
30
40
years,
and
so
it
seems
to
me
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
sit
down
with
those
landowners
and
talk
about.
How
are
we
going
to
do
that
to
make
sure
that
that
we
grow
properly
so
that
we
can
provide
all
of
the
services
that
a
city
should
should
provide
and
what
I'm?
What
I'm
trying
to
understand
is.
M
Does
this
bill
affect
our
ability
to
do
that
and
as
I've
sat
here
through
this
last
hour
of
hearing
that
I'm
still
not
sure
I
understand
if
it
if
it,
if
it
stops
us
or
challenges
us,
it
just
basically
says
that
we
can't
restrict
the
uses
that
are
allowed
under
under
the
section,
and
I
tried
to
read
it
last
night
and
I'm
still
not
sure.
So
I
guess
my
concern
is.
M
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
while
we're
trying
to
help
a
developer
in
a
town
that
we're
not
hurting
all
the
other
cities
and
towns
ability
to
effectively
grow
and
do
the
things
that
they
need
to
do.
D
Okay,
one
of
the
one
of
the
helps
I
can
I
can
offer
you
is
that
most
of
the
developments
that
I
know
of
outside
and
some
are
ways
outside
of
the
city
of
cheyenne
and
otherwise
have
their
own
sewer
and
they're.
Not
really
hooked
into
the
city.
Looks
to
me
like
you've
got
at
least
one
of
them
here
that
you're
you're
developing
sewer
infrastructure
for
those
those
that
development.
M
Is
it
I'm
not
close
enough
to
it?
I'm
sorry,
mr
chairman,
did
you
hear
that?
Okay,
I
believe
so
all
the
developments
I
spoke
about
will
all
be
in
the
city
limits
of
cheyenne,
so
they're
they're
areas
of
land
that
the
landowners
have
come
to
us
and
said
they
want
to
become
part
of
the
city
of
cheyenne
and
are
are
looking
to
provide
or
have
us
provide
water
sewer
all
of
the
services
that
you
would
have
inside
of
city
limits.
You
can't
you
can't
grow
at
that
density
without
having
city
water
and.
D
M
Absolutely,
and
if
I
may,
we
have,
I
think,
probably
17
000
people
on
city,
water
and
sewer
in
china
in
the
cheyenne
area
that
are
outside
of
our
city
limit,
so
you're
correct.
We
do
a
lot
of
that.
F
Said,
and-
and
this
goes
back
to
mr
mclaren-
we-
we
talked
a
lot
about
affordable
housing
and
the
needs
in
your
community
for
more
affordable
housing
with
this
application
for
84
market-based
units,
which
would
have
prices
much
higher
than
affordable
housing.
F
T
Mr
chairman
representative,
I'm
not
intimately
familiar
with
the
teton
county
land
development
regulations,
but
my
understanding
is
that
as
they
come
through,
as
you
heard
previously,
they've
approved
sketch
plan
approval
as
they
go
through
the
process.
T
The
the
development
would
be
subject
to
the
applicable
teton
county,
affordable
housing
regulations,
whatever
they
may
be.
I
will
tell
you
my
understanding
is
that
the
rate
of
the
requirements
for
deed,
restricted,
affordable
housing
on
residential
units
is
a
pretty
low
number,
because
it's
based
on
the
nexus
of
generation
of
jobs.
T
Q
This
is
a
question
for
wham
and
it's
putting
a
point.
I
guess
on
this
conversation,
because
I
guess
I've
had
the
fortune
or
misfortune
of
being
in
this
and
represented
blackburn
for
a
long
time
on
the
corporations
committee
and
the
redactions
and
the
uniqueness
of
this
particular
part
of
the
world,
but
sometimes
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
outsmart
outsmart
ourselves
with
good
deeds,
and
I
think
we
might
be
right
there.
Q
So
in
this
particular
I
mean
I
understand
the
the
need
for
redactions
need
for
more
affordable
housing,
although
I
don't
always
agree
with
it.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
when
we
push
on
private
property
rights,
we
end
up.
We
end
up
at
a
spot
where,
in
any
almost
any
landowner
or
rancher
does
not
want
to
develop
their
land
or
sell
it
period.
I
don't
care
where
you
are.
I've
been
in
these
conversations
a
long
time,
sometimes
you're
forced
into
the
position
for
economic
reasons.
Q
Like
you
said,
our
tax
structure
in
wyoming
goes
to
or
pushes
more
second
homes
the
federal
tax
structure
with
the
state
taxes
it
pushes
branches
out,
and
in
this
particular
point
of
this
conversation
I
think
that's
exactly
where
we
are
so
to
put
a
point
on
that.
To
put
a
point
on
this
conversation.
Q
Okay,
we've
run
up
against
this
wall
and
we
have
to.
We
have
to
make
a
choice
going
forward,
and
I
guess
that's
not
a
question,
but
wouldn't
you
agree,
yeah.
D
I
think
the
thing
I
would
add
is
that
we
just
meet
during
this
time
of
year,
we'll
have
a
special
session.
We
won't
be
dealing
with
this
during
the
special
session.
We
won't
have
time
so
we're
wanting
to
get
this
dealt
with
now.
D
If
we
can,
I
I
think
there
may
be
some
possibilities
for
compromise
that
will
suit
both
parties
so
that
I'm
thinking
about
and
I'll
I'll
bring
those
up
later,
but
we
need
more
testimony
before
we
can
before
we
can
get
there
and
if
the
committee's
okay,
I
would
like
to
bring
mrs
gill
back
up
and
I
just
gotta
few
more
questions
for
her
and
I'm.
We
will
yes,
sir.
D
So
the
the
first
question
I
would
have
for
you
is
you're
wanting
an
expedited
process,
and
this
is
this
is
expediting
things
when
you
ask
a
wyoming
legislature
to
to
butt
into
what
we
normally
don't
have
to
interfere
with.
So
can
you
explain
to
us
why
your
concerns
and
why
you
need
this
done
quickly
and
expedited?
Well,.
I
Thank
you,
chairman
representatives,
respectfully,
the
timeline
that
has
been
spoken
of
by
the
mayor
and
the
town
manager
is
actually
incorrect.
We
submitted
our
sewer
connection
request
in
october
and
it
took
their
staff
nearly
two
months
to
respond
to
merely
let
us
know
that
we
submitted
incorrectly
because
they
changed
the
policy,
even
though
the
policy
was
nowhere
to
be
found
on
their
website.
So.
M
I
Submitted
a
letter
to
the
town
of
jackson,
which
is
the
standard
practice,
has
been
for
years,
and
then
we
were
told
around
six
weeks
later
that
we
actually
needed
to
submit
a
miscellaneous
request,
which
we
then
did
so
we
actually
submitted
our
request
in
october,
so
it
has
not
been
a
two-month
timeline.
We
have
been
waiting
since
october
for
any
of
the
town
council
and
their
staff
to
meet
with
us
and
the
only
time
that
they
actually
decided
to
reach
out
to
us
and
meet
with
us
was
when
this
bill
was
brought
to
the
legislature.
D
D
U
Chairman
eckland
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
liz
bremer
for
the
hereford
ranch
and
let
me
just
point
out:
we
met
with
staff.
The
public
works
staff
july
2020.
We
then
prepared
and
no
reason
to
meet
with
that
staff
was
exactly
to
get
the
right
pipe
sides,
the
key
standards.
What
would
they
like?
What
would
they
need?
How
could
we
incorporate
that
request
so
that
we
are
responsible
developers
for
this
land
that
has
property
rights
of
100
single-family
homes,
free
market
homes?
That
is
the
zoning
that
exists
today.
U
Chairman
eckland
representative
larson,
that
was
the
city
public
works
staff
because
there
is
a
monopoly
in
this
community.
You
could
say,
and
it's
it's
an
understandable
monopoly.
They
the
town,
owns
and
operates
the
only
option
for
sewer
facility
and
to
answer
a
previous
question
that
was
asked.
There
was
nine
million
dollars
in
fact,
invested
in
federal
funds.
State
revolving
funds
for
the
expanded
capacity
of
this
particular
sewer
facility
that
nine
million
dollars
was
predicated
on
the
unit
count
on
ms
gill's
property.
U
M
U
U
We've
tried
several
times
to
communicate
and
it's
been
very
hard
and
I
I
want
to
bring
it
back
to
the
bill,
if
I
may,
mr
chairman,
just
to
be
able
to
hone
it
back
in
to
the
purpose
of
this
bill.
It
is
private
property
rights,
it
is
land
owner
rights,
the
bill
simply
says,
and
it's
not
confusing.
If
I
could
respectfully
disagree
with
my
friend,
mr
mayor
collins,
it
simply
says
you
can't
pick
uses
by
condition,
conditioning
a
sewer
connection.
That's
all
the
bill
says
to
get
a
sewer
connection.
U
U
They
have
no
ability
to
do
that
today,
so
it's
a
little
confusing
why
they
would
be
fighting
this
bill
so
hard
because
they
don't
have
that
ability
to
do
it
today.
The
legislation
before
you
is
just
a
clarifying
bill.
It
just
clarifies
state
statutes
that,
in
fact,
you
cannot
zone
by
a
sewer
connection.
You
cannot
pick
those
uses
or
discriminate
against
the
free
market
via
a
sewer
connection.
You
can't
do
that
today.
U
If
you
would
be
inclined
to
vote
in
favor
of
this
bill,
they
won't
be
able
to
do
it
after
you
leave
cheyenne.
This
has
no
net
effect
of
taking
anything
away
from
the
municipality.
They
don't
have
that
power
today
and
I
believe
you'll
be
hearing
from
harry
hageman
in
just
a
minute
to
be
able
to
speak
more
clearly.
I
am
not
a
lawyer,
but
she's
a
fine
attorney.
U
We
need
this
clarification.
It
is
vital.
You've
spent
so
much
of
your
good
time
this
morning.
Hearing
all
of
these
arguments
that
may
appear
circular,
they
feel
to
us
as
a
little
circular
when
we
get
into
the
discussions
with
the
town
and-
and
I
I
can
tell
you-
we
were
only
enabled
the
meeting
after
this
bill
was
introduced.
U
D
Okay
committee,
we
I
I
need
to
take
a
break
and
I
don't
want
to
miss
any
of
the
testimony
and
we're
probably
not
going
to
get
to
the
next
bill
as
I'm
looking
at
the
time
and
that's
why
we
started
at
seven
we
may,
but
there
are
other
people
that
need
to
testify,
we'll
take
a
five
minute
break
and-
and
I
want
you
to
come
back-
and
I
want
mrs
hageman
to
come
up
and
and
offer
her
thoughts
on
on
the
property
rights
and
what
the
bill
does
and
any
unintended
consequences.
V
C
V
V
V
V
In
reality.
All
of
our
cities
and
towns
are
required
to
comply
with
zoning
regulations.
So
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
I
want
to
address
and
one
of
the
first
ones
was.
I
know
that
there
were
some
questions
about
whether
litigation
is
the
solution
here.
Why
does
the
legislature
want
to
get
involved
in
this
issue?
If
there's
an
issue
between
two
or
three
parties,
perhaps
they
need
to
go
into
court
and
have
the
court
resolve
the
matter?
The
fact
is
that
the
court's
role
is
only
to
interpret
that
law.
V
The
courts
do
not
make
the
law,
you
guys
make
the
law,
and
then
the
courts
interpret
that
and
apply
it.
So
I
don't
see
this
as
being
an
issue
that
is
right
for
litigation
or
that
it
that
that
the
folks
should
have
to
go
into
litigation
in
order
to
protect
their
private
property
rights
under
this
circumstance
again,
this
is
a
is
a
law
of
general
applicability,
it
doesn't
just
apply
to
one
community
and
for
that
reason
it's
appropriate
for
legislation.
V
I
actually
believe
that
this
is
a
fairly
elegant
clarification
to
existing
law.
It
is
uniformly
applicable
to
the
state
as
a
whole.
Zoning
is
the
only
mechanism
by
which
government
has
the
authority
to
control
land
use
in
the
state
of
wyoming,
and
that
is
not
only
set
out
by
state
statute,
but
it
was
confirmed
by
the
wyoming
supreme
court
just
recently
in
the
case
of
asci
versus
laramie
county
that
was
issued
just
a
month
or
so
ago.
V
Once
the
zoning
ordinance
is
adopted,
those
are
the
rules
by
which
the
landowners
must
comply
and
those
are
the
rules
by
which
the
county
and
the
cities
also
must
comply.
The
zoning
ordinances
dictate
land
use
within
particular
areas,
and
what
is
important
is
that,
once
everybody
needs
to
know
what
the
rules
are
and
that's
the
point
of
this,
this
is
about
due
process.
V
This
is
about
notice.
This
is
about,
I
think,
a
couple
of
you
have
commented
about
owning
private
property
or
owning
property
and
developing
property
and
being
able
to
know
what
the
rules
are
when
you
go
into
the
process
for
development,
whether
it's
a
housing
development
or
it's
going
to
be
oil
and
gas
development
or
whatever
it
may
be,
we're
all
entitled
to
know
what
the
rules
are
ahead
of
time
and
that's
what
zoning
does
that's
the
purpose
of
zoning.
V
I
I
think
that
it's
very
important
and
I
was
looking
up
some
cases
as
I
was
sitting
in
the
room
here,
because
I
think
that
what
has
concerned
me
about
some
of
the
discussion
associated
with
the
town
of
jackson
and
teton
county
is
the
idea
of
imposing
conditions
on
the
ability
to
get
a
sewer
hookup
or
to
be
able
to
obtain
a
building
permit
or
something
along
those
lines.
And
there
are
a
couple
of
united
states
supreme
court
cases
that
have
been
issued
and
what
they
refer
to
in
that
particular
circumstance.
V
Is
they
describe
those
kinds
of
things
if
they
are
outside
of
the
authority
of
the
particular
governing
body,
the
municipality
or
the
county?
They
refer
to
them
as
unconstitutional
conditions,
and
I'm
going
to
read
you
a
few
things
from
a
case.
There's
two
there's
actually
three
cases
that
have
been
issued
on
this
by
the
united
states
supreme
court.
One
of
them
is
koontz
k-o-o-n-t-z
and
the
other
two
are
called
nolin
l-n-o-l-l-a-n
and
dolan
d-o-l-a-n,
and
what
these
cases
do
is
they
set
limits
on
a
government's
ability
to
impair
property
interest
using
land
use
regulations?
V
Under
these
decisions
there
must
be
a
nexus
and
rough
proportionality
between
the
government's
demand
and
the
effects
of
the
proposed
land
use.
This
test
was
historically
applied
when
the
government
requested
that
the
owner
relinquish
some
of
his
or
her
property
like
an
easement
as
a
condition
on
a
land
use
permit.
V
V
This
particular
developer
offered
to
mitigate
by
deeding
to
the
defendant,
water
management
district,
a
conservation
easement
on
nearly
three-quarters
of
the
property
at
issue.
The
district,
however,
found
that
that
mitigation
was
inadequate
and
they
suggested
that
they
would
cramp
the
permit
only
if
the
developer
reduced
their
project
from
3.7
acres
to
one
acre
or
they
had
to
go
and
develop
wetlands
on
property.
That
was
completely
separate
and
distinct
from
where
this
development
was
going
to
be
taking
place.
What
the
united
states
supreme
court
said
was,
that
is
an
unconstitutional
condition.
V
V
And
if
it
does,
then
I
don't
believe
any
particular
municipality
ought
to
be
able
to
deny
or
condition
or
unconstitutionally
condition
a
development
based
upon
outside
or
extraneous
interests.
So
that's
really
all
I
wanted
to
say
I'm
only
here
on
my
own
behalf,
I'm
not
here
on
behalf
of
anybody
else,
I'm
here
because
I
believe
very
strongly
in
private
property
rights.
I
think
it's
absolutely
critical
to
the
health
and
future
of
the
state
of
wyoming.
V
D
B
We
have
a
fire
alarm
here
in
the
capitol
building,
so
I've
got
to
exit
for
a
minute.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
one
there
in
the
extension.
D
Yep
go
ahead
and
let
him
in
mr
party,
we
may
bring
you
in
as
needed,
so
wait
until
we
we
call
you
in.
If
you
would
please.
B
F
You,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you,
miss
hageman
for
being
here
with
us.
We've
heard
a
lot
about
affordable
housing
this
morning.
In
testimony
and
it's
my
understanding
and
you
you
can
correct
me
because
I'm
often
wrong,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
those
that
should
be
treated
under
zoning
when
it
when
the
property
is
being
zoned
to
allow
for
affordable
housing.
F
V
Yes,
mr
chairman
and
representative
heiner,
those
are
the
kinds
of
policy
decisions
that
are
made
through
a
zoning
process,
because
then
the
community
is
involved,
they
shouldn't
be
done
on
a
piecemeal
basis
if
you
will
again
conditioning
the
hookups
for
a
sewer
or
water
on
a
particular
partial
of
property
and
trying
to
dictate
how
that
property
is
used.
That's
why
zoning
is
important.
That's
why
being
able
to
identify
whether
how
a
particular
county
or
community
has
identified
how
what
kinds
of
uses
can
be
on
that
property?
That's
the
notice
and
due
process,
part
of
it.
V
If
you
are
going
through
a
zoning
process
in
a
community,
then
everybody
involved,
including
the
landowners,
have
the
ability
to
participate
in
that
process.
It
shouldn't
be
done
on
a
piecemeal
basis,
and
that's
why
I
have
used
the
word
elegant
in
describing
this
particular
provision
is
that
it
is
that
you
cannot
have
restricted
uses
that
are
allowed
under
applicable
zoning
regulations
and
again
I
think
that
this
was
reinforced
by
the
asci
decision
issued
by
the
wyoming
supreme
court
just
recently,
and
it's
also
the
united
states
supreme
court
in
the
three
cases
that
I
referenced.
V
H
D
W
V
V
D
Our
committee
will
come
back
to
order.
We've
got
a
few
committee.
Members
yeah
you
I
I
think
your
friend
here
would
like
his
seat
back.
D
What
you
have
given
us
is
that
there
are.
There
are
cases
that
have
been
brought
before
the
wyoming
supreme
court,
as
well
as
the
u.s
supreme
court
that
have
ruled
that,
if
we're
within
the
zoning
rights
that
are
established
in
that
property,
it
would
be
unconstitutional
to
put
other
restrictions.
Other.
V
V
Associated
with
a
development-
and
I-
and
I
don't
want
to
be
that
broad
I'll
use
the
language
by
the
united
states
supreme
court
to
make
sure
that
I'm
being
very
specific
on
that.
What
they
refer
to
is
that.
V
Now
that's
set
case
law,
so
there's
there's
really
nothing
that
this
committee
needs
to
do
with
regard
to
that.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
I
believe
the
way
that
this
particular
statute
complies
with
that
and
is
within
the
spirit
and
the
concept
of
what
the
us
supreme
court
held
in
that
line
of
cases
called
nolan
and
dolan.
V
So
that's
really.
What
I'm
talking
about
is
that
a
community
a
city
can
put
and
place
conditions
upon
property
use,
but
what
they're
saying
here
is
that
there
cannot
be
deed
restrictions
that
are
outside
of
what
the
zoning
ordinances
require,
and
I
believe
that
that
fully
comports
with
the
recent
asci
decision
issued
by
the
wyoming
supreme
court.
G
Thank
you
chairman.
If
I'm
out
of
bounds
with
this
question,
please
please
stop
me.
G
C
D
So
people
that
we
haven't
brought
in
is
are
our
private,
other
people,
we've
now
heard
from
city,
legal
counsel
and
and
the
property
owner
I'd
like
to
hear
from
some
of
the
groups
that
would
like
to
testify
on
this,
and
if
you
could
be
pretty
brief
we're
now,
we
have
about
probably
about
a
half
an
hour.
S
And
I'd
like
to
vote
on
this
before.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
enjoyed
the
same
second
break
as
you
did.
I
am
keith
kennedy
and
I'm
here
on
my
own
behalf.
I
don't
represent
anyone,
although
for
your
information,
I
serve
on
albany,
county
planning
and
zoning
commission.
You've
heard
before
that.
This
is
specific
to
a
certain
instance
elsewhere
in
wyoming,
and
I
would
suggest
that
it
is
more
broad
than
that.
S
We
believe
that
we
can
close
a
road,
because
we
don't
like
this
development,
however,
and
we
passed
and
approved
the
subdivision,
because
the
landowner
had
an
easement
that
preceded
when
that
city
street
was
dedicated
as
a
city
street.
It
lay
on
the
same
easement
and
I
would
suggest
it's
a
very
similar
case
where
a
municipality
was
attempting
to
limit
others
property
rights
by
using
other
means
and
aside
from
the
zoning
regulation
that
applied
to
that
property
in
the
county.
S
D
Many
questions,
and
I
think
that
that
is
in
part,
answers
why
we're
taking
a
simple
one-page
bill
and
we're
thoroughly
going
through
it.
The
last
time
I
was
involved
in
an
in
a
property
rights
issue.
D
D
X
X
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
brett
moline
wyoming
farm
bureau
federation
sitting
firmly
in
support
of
this
bill.
I
do
think
the
biggest
issue
is
private
property
rights.
I
believe
that
there's
been
instances
of
taking-
and
I
have
to
reiterate
this-
is
not
a
single
town
issue.
This
a
very
similar
situation,
happened
to
the
town
just
to
the
west
of
here
it
was
never
resolved.
X
The
question
still
became.
How
much
can
the
city
do
two?
I
want
to
make
sure
this
is
playing.
This
is
property
that
is
outside
the
city
limits.
I
think
that's.
A
very
important
aspect
of
this
is
that
this
affects
land
outside
the
city
limits
this.
I
believe
we
need
to
protect
the
private
property
rights
if
affordable
housing
is
an
issue.
X
D
Y
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
jim
mcgagne,
with
the
wyoming
stockholders
association.
I
won't
repeat
all
the
outstanding
testimony
you've
heard
about
the
private
property
nature
of
this.
I
just
emphasize
that
and
say
that
we
fully
agree
with
that,
because
I've
been
sitting
back
here.
Listening
to
this,
I've
been
reflecting
on
something
else,
and
that
is
over
the
years
the
many
times
that
I've
seen
that
you
as
a
legislative
body
are
put
in
the
position
of
having
to
decide.
Y
Are
we
attempting
to
pass
legislation
just
to
solve
an
individual
constituent's
problem,
or
are
we
addressing
a
weakness
or
a
loophole
in
our
state's
statutory
structure?
I
would
contend
that
in
this
case
you
are
addressing
a
loophole
that
currently
exists
in
that
statutory
structure,
and
for
that
reason
I
would
urge
you
to
move
forward
with
this
bill
that
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
D
Anyone
else
from
the
private
sector
represent
each
private
sector,
so
we
have
with
us
a
couple
of
our
distinguished
representatives
and
I'd
like
for
both
of
you.
If
you
oh
mike,
if
you
don't
want
to,
you,
don't
have
to
come,
but
you
also
represent
this
area
and
you
can
give
us
some
insight-
and
I,
I
think
so
not
only
was
representative
schwartz
a
a.
He
took
a
step
down
from
into
legislature
from
being
a
mayor,
but
he
was
mayor
jackson.
He
probably
has
another
correct
war.
K
Warranty,
mr
chairman,
to
be
correct:
no,
I
was
not
the
mayor,
oh
my.
If
I
may
boy
I
have
missed
mr
chairman,
esteemed
colleagues,
no,
I
was
a
town
planning,
commissioner.
For
two
years
in
jackson,
I
was
a
county
planning,
commissioner,
for
six
years,
and
then
I
was
a
county
commissioner
for
12..
All.
K
Yet
yeah
so,
and
when
I
came
down
here
as
a
legislator,
it
was
my
firm
hope
that
I
would
never
have
to
deal
with
teton
county
zoning
controversies
again,
because
I
thought
after
20
years.
That
was
plenty,
but,
as
some
of
you
know,
it
is
a
recurring
theme
that
teton
county
and
the
town
of
jackson
zoning
issues
wind
up
coming
down
to
the
wyoming
legislature.
K
So,
to
start
with,
I
think
that's
a
problem
that
I
don't
think
we
are
the
appropriate
body
to
deal
with
our
what
are
essentially
local
zoning
issues.
We've
heard
conflicting
testimony
today,
the
from
the
town
of
jackson
and
the
applicant
I've
heard
from
both
of
the
parties
individually,
I'm
not
going
to
speculate
on
what
has
transpired.
K
My
concern
is
that
in
passing,
if
this
legislation
passes,
I'm
not
a
hundred
percent
sure
what
it
actually
would
say
can
and
can't
be
done,
because
we're
looking
at
this
strictly
as
deed
restrictions
for
affordable
housing,
which
is
clearly
affordable,
housing
has
been
suggested
by
others.
There's
a
problem
in
teton
county:
I'm
not
sure
what
else
this
would
limit
municipalities
in
doing
in
terms
of
hookups
to
their
water
and
sewer
system
and
I'll
give
an
example
within
the
city
of
jackson.
K
I
would
exercise
some
caution.
This
bill
came
in
very
late
in
the
session
you
can
tell
by
the
number
on
it.
I
believe
it's
the
final
numbered
bill
that
came
out
of
the
senate.
I
don't
know
how
much
it's
been
vetted.
I
I
know
that
it
is.
We
can
say
it's
a
statewide
statute,
but
it
is
clearly
the
issue
is
in
the
city
of
jackson
and
teton
county.
I
would
urge
caution.
D
H
Representative
yeah,
mr
chair,
I
guess
the
question
I
have
my
understanding
is
this
property
was
actually
zoned
in
1990.,
the
deed
restrictions
exist,
then,
and
and
if,
if
you
can
address
the
fact
that
it's
already
been
zoned,
is
it
appropriate
now
to
come
back
and
and
add
deed
restrictions
to
that
as
a
condition
of
connecting
to
the
sewer?
Because
that's
what
seems
to
be
the
problem
in
in
jackson
and
since
you've
been
on
the
zoning?
Mr
chairman,
I
think
that
might
be
a
good
question
for
you
to
answer.
Thank
you.
K
The
first
application
involved
land
that
and,
like
I
said,
I've
been
not
doing
this
for
a
little
while,
but
my
recollection
is
the
portion
that
is
the
current
application
for
was
zoned
in
roughly
1992..
There
was
a
new
comp
plan
done
that
I
was
involved
in
and
then
regulations
based
on
that
comprehensive
plan
took
place.
That
made
the
zoning
on
the
current
application,
suburban
and
I
believe
they
conformed
to
that.
K
The
previous
application
included
more
property
that,
as
I
recall,
is
currently
zoned
rural
but
designated
as
appropriate
for
future
zoning,
which
is
a
process
that
they
are
going
through
now
to
rezone
that
property
and
it
has
not
occurred
yet
and
that's
the
best.
I
can
answer
that
if
that
answers
your
question.
H
K
K
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
representative
schwartz.
This
is
not
we
started
out.
I
guess
we
probably
started
out
as
this
being
a
teton
county
problem,
but
it's
evolved
into
much
more
than
that.
It's
it's
a
state.
This
is
gonna
affect
the
state
and
that's
that's
why
we're
walking
on
lake
shows.
You
know
this.
We've
listened
to
testimony.
That's
a
lot
of
this
has
come
down.
Private
property
rights
has
come
down
from
the
u.s
supreme
court
and
stuff.
So
there's,
no
doubt
it's
going
to
affect
the
rest
of
the
state.
G
You
know
we
passed
this
and
basically
it's
it's
like
one.
One
person
testified
just
minutes
ago
that
we're
going
to
plug
a
loophole.
If
we
go
down
that
road,
you
know
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
make
standards
that's
set
in
stone.
That's
why
we're
going
slow
on
this?
We're
not
picking
on
teton
county
at
all,
we're
we're
weighing
everything
out
real,
cautious
and
carefully
as
cautious
as
we
can,
because
we
know
it's
going
to
affect
future
generations
from
here
on
out
the
decisions
we
make
here.
Every
one
of
them
is
that
way.
G
K
Representative
fortner,
I
I
don't
disagree
when
I
was
a
planning
commissioner.
One
of
the
first
things
they
taught
me
was
nolan
and
dolan,
and
I
think
everybody
in
teton
county
does
everything
they
can
to
make
sure
that
our
zoning
regulations
conform
to
supreme
court
decisions
and
constitutionality
and
the
protection
of
property
rights.
My
concern
here
is
what
constitutes
a
deed
restriction,
and
we
are
talking
about
it
strictly
in
terms
of
affordable
housing.
AA
AA
I
am
a
little
disappointed,
so
I
represent
most
of
the
town
of
jackson,
so
the
borders
of
the
town
not
all
of
it,
but
much
of
it
and-
and
I
am
a
little
disappointed
that
the
developer
didn't
decide
to
have
me
as
part
of
the
conversation
before
the
bill
got
brought,
but
the
the
thoughts
that
I
I
have
is
that
we're
intervening
in
a
process
in
the
middle
of
a
process.
AA
So
that
doesn't
happen
again
when
we
intervene
in
the
middle
of
a
process
where
we
haven't
had
now
a
negative
outcome,
necessarily
yet
we're
we're
putting
our
thumbs
on
the
scale
for
one
side
or
the
other
before
the
process
has
even
finished
taking
place,
and
that's
my
worry
so
if
we
deal
with
this
bill
pass
it
through,
we
say
to
any
any
developer,
necessarily
that
that
is
this
in
the
process
of
doing
some
sort
of
development
with
a
town
or
county
that
you
know
what
I
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
telling
what
the
town
county
is
doing
while
we're
in
the
middle
of
the
process.
AA
So
I'm
gonna
bring
a
bill
and
push
to
put
my
finger
on
the
scale
before
the
process
is
even
finished.
So
what
I
would
say
to
the
committee
is
that
that
I
worry
that
this
bill
sets
a
precedent
where
we'll
start
allowing
people
to
bring
bills
to
the
legislature
before
we
even
come
to
any
conclusion
at
all,
and
I
think
that's
a
worrisome
precedent
to
send
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
AA
But
I
I
do
think
that
the
legislature
intervening
beforehand
is
not
necessarily
the
right
place
that
we
want
to
go,
because
I
think
it'll
encourage
more
bills
in
the
future
where
the
process
hasn't
been
finished
and
it
could
come
to
a
good
outcome,
but
we're
we're
encouraging
a
negative
outcome
before
we
even
start,
which
I
I
don't
think
is
the
right
way
to
go.
Mr
chairman,
thank
you.
AA
J
AA
Mr
chairman,
I
I
don't
want
to
necessarily
comment
on
how
long
any
particular
project
takes.
I,
I
think
that
in
teton
county,
as
we've
heard
many
times,
we
have
a
very
small
amount
of
private
land,
so
proper
planning
to
make
sure
that
that
land
gets
developed
in
a
way
that
is
best
for
everyone
in
the
town
and
county
is
really
important,
and
sometimes
that
takes
time
and
and
sometimes
it
doesn't
take
as
much
time.
It
really
just
depends
on
the
scale
of
of
the
process.
I
think.
E
As
quickly
as
you
can
yes,
sir,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
committee,
great
great
hearing
on
this
piece
of
legislation,
and
I
think,
after
hearing
the
testimony,
we've
heard
I'm
even
more
convinced
that
this
bill
is
needed
now
more
than
ever
before,
because
we
hearing
the
city's
kind
of
him
and
haw
and
and
not
really
answer
direct
questions
about.
You
know
what
they're
doing
I
have
to
defer
to
this.
I
have
to
refer
to
that.
E
E
It
just
says
you
know
if
you
can't
put
restrictions
that
are
allowed
under
applicable
zoning
laws,
you've
already
zoned
it
you've
already
set
the
rules.
You
can't
change,
you
can't
move
the
goal
post
halfway
through
the
game
and
say:
oh
by
the
way
you
know.
Normally,
we
we
give
you
guys
anybody
that
meets
the
capacity
requirements
for
sewer.
We
give
a
permit,
that's
their
job,
okay,
they
look
at
it.
Okay.
Does
this
meet
the
capacity
requirements
boom?
E
E
A
policy
policy
decision
that
we
need
to
make
here
in
the
in
the
legislature
that
does
affect
the
whole
state,
and
this
situation
has
has
opened
up
our
eyes
as
to
a
glaring
loophole
in
the
law.
That
needs
to
be
addressed
that
these
these
municipalities
are
trying
to
exercise
power
that
they
don't
have.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
D
Moved
by
larson
and
seconded
by
fortner-
oh
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
to
slide
anyone
but
okay
discussion
on
the
bill.
D
Okay,
I
I
guess
I
would
have
a
little
bit
so
I,
as
I
thought
about
it,
I
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
move
the
date
on
the
bill
and
I
don't
think
it's
it's
imperative
that
we
do
that
by
the
time
this
bill
is
signed,
it'll
be
will
be
into
april
sometime.
It
depends
on
if,
if
it
were
to
pass
the
house
and
it'd
go
to
the
governor's
desk,
he'd
look
it
over
and
it
would
take
maybe
till
the
middle
of
april,
but
possibly
would
be
done
immediately.
D
The
hearing
set
by
the
city
of
of
casper
is
may
3rd.
We've
had
indications
from
the
city
of
casper
that
they
they
see,
no
reason
why
they
why
they
would
put
deed
restrictions
on
or
on
a
land.
That's
outside
of
the.
D
What
did
I
say:
whoops.
Okay,
I
didn't
mean
to
do
that,
but
it
could
be
any
city
in
the
state.
It
is
what
we've
discovered
in
this
whole
thing,
so
I'm
not
going
to
change
it
at
all.
I
think
that
it
the
way
it
stands.
It
would
still
give
everybody
time
to
to
come
to
an
agreement
and
I
don't
believe
it
puts
any
restriction
on
on
the
city
of
jackson
or
any
other
town
in
the
state.
D
I'm
I'm
glad
mayor
collins
was
here
because
we're
going
to
be
dealing
with
it,
a
lot
in
cheyenne
there's
just
some
unbelievable
growth,
that's
happening
and
subdivisions
that
are
coming
in.
We
have
to
have
an
understanding
of
of
what
private
property
rights
people
have
in
the
zoning.
That's
been
done
previously,
so
any
other
discussion
on
the
bill
question
on
the
bill.
Question
roll
call!
Please.
H
D
This
next
bill
we
work
on
is,
is
really
an
interesting
one
and
I
my
name's
on
it
it
it
differs
from
some
of
the
other
things
we've
done,
because
we're
we're
going
to
try
to
pattern
an
ag
authority
after
what
we've
already
done
with
the
pipeline
authority
that
turned
into
the
energy
authority
any
beforehand,
any
research
that
you
can
do
on
how
those
operate
and
and
how
we
we
need
to
design
this
bill,
and
any
changes
we
need
to
do
would
be
helpful,
so
a
little
bit
of
study
before
thursday
and
we'll
work
it
on
thursday.