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A
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Well
welcome
everyone
big
crowd
out
there,
so
today
we're
meeting
to
discuss
interim
topics
for
the
upcoming
interim
I'll
I'll,
pass
it
over
to
staff
to
lead
us
through
this
conversation.
D
Mr
chairman
tanya
hetrick
legislative
service
office,
I
did
send
out
an
email
yesterday
to
the
committee
members
with
the
list
of
those
items
that
you're
charged
to
complete
by
statute.
As
I
mentioned
in
the
past
years,
the
list
has
consisted
of
just
that:
your
statutory
duties
from
title
28
and
from
title
21.
D
we
did
receive
a
couple
of
requests
for
interim
topics.
The
first
is
major
maintenance,
including.
D
D
Those
are
the
requests
that
I've
received
thus
far.
B
Okay,
the
and-
and
I
I,
if
you
recall,
committee
at
one
time
I
had
mentioned
that
someday,
we
should
probably
tackle
visiting
all
the
laws
that
we've
passed
concerning
the
school
facilities,
commission
and
schools
for
the
studies
department.
Some
of
them
have
have
actually
hampered
the
department
and
the
commission
and
put
a
lot
of.
B
Strings
and
a
lot
of
requirements
on
on
our
department
that
maybe
are
not
necessary
anymore,
so
I
think
that's
probably
a
herculean
effort,
and
so
that
maybe
we
take
those
as
pieces
as
we
go
so
rather
than
in
our
own
topic.
I
think
we
we
all
just
need
to
think
about.
You
know
how
how
we
can
streamline
the
process
and-
and
I've
spoken
with-
certainly
director
vincent
about
that
and
told
him
initially
when
he
first
hit
the
ground
last
may
or
whenever
it
was.
B
That
start
start
looking
at
those
issues
and
and
providing
us
feedback
as
well,
so
that
we
can
assist
him
in
carrying
out
his
mission
easier.
So
anyhow,
so
committee
can
that
can?
Oh,
yes,.
D
Mr
chairman,
just
two
quick
notes:
you'll
recall
that
there's
an
appropriation
for
the
statewide
assessment
and
that
will
take
place
this
year
and
I
believe
that
passed
and
then.
Secondly,
the
prioritized
list
that
you'll
receive
will
be
something
completely
new
under
the
revised
rules
and
regulations,
so
also
something
to
keep
in
mind
as
you
prepare
for
the
interim.
B
Yes,
sir,
we'll
be
visiting
both
of
those
issues,
I'm
sure
okay,
so
committee
can
can.
I
can
we
have
some
discussion
on
on
the
topics
any
any
thoughts.
G
Mr
chairman
yeah
that
made
maintenance
it's
every
year.
It's
the
consultants
say
we
should
be
doing
a
little
more
than
we
really
are,
and
then
it
gets
further
devalued
by
the
fact
that
we
take
out.
Ten
percent
of
that,
then
can
go
towards
safety
issues
as
well
as
it
can
be
used
for
the
entire
facility,
not
just
the
buildings,
so
it
could
be
increased,
but
it
seems
to
be
working
at
this
time.
B
Okay,
well,
I
had
asked,
since
senator
cost
also
had
seconded
your
motion
on
on
that
at
the
october
meeting.
I
asked
him
to
to
actually
draft
up
some
thoughts
on
it,
so
senator
kostiana
he
just
passed
out
a
little
blurb
that
he
typed
up.
Basically
on
that
same
issue,
so
just
want
to
tell
us
what
your
thoughts
are.
Okay,.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
this
is
just
a
short
short
blurb
too.
What
I
really
wanted
to
look
at
was
how
the
15
came
about
and
why
it
came
about
and
then
just
kind
of
get
some
background
towards
it,
so
that
we
could
look
at.
I
struggle
with
us
taking
state
funds
to
pay
for
enhancements.
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
the
enhancements
and
I
certainly
welcome
any
school
district
that
wants
to
take
on
those
enhancements.
H
But
at
the
same
time
I
think
the
responsibility
of
the
maintenance
probably
should
be
the
school
districts
as
well
rather
than
the
state,
and
so
maybe
that
money
needs
to
go
more
towards
the
maintenance
of
the
state
stuff
rather
than
the
enhancements,
and
that
was
my
thought,
and
I
just
thought:
it'd
be
nice
to
dig
into
that
and
see
where
that
takes
us.
So.
I
The
senator
herbs
representative
harshman,
I
I
think
it's
it's
ten
percent
and
that
that
came,
I
think,
an
0304.,
no
yeah,
03
or
04.
When
we
were
kind
of
starting
to
build
this
airplane,
you
know
why
we
were
flying
and-
and
it
was
it
was
a
house
member,
I
think,
stan
cooper
who
later
went
and
served
in
the
senate.
I
think
amended
that
statute
is
coming
through
10
and
really
most
of
the
enhancements.
I
What
are
enhancements
most
of
them
are
existing
buildings
that
have
more
square
foot
than
what
the
state
would
build.
Now
and-
and
you
only
you
know-
and
I
don't
know
we
ratcheted
that
down
on
years,
but
we
the
square
footage-
we
give
a
little
allotment
for
that,
but
I
think
it'd
be
good
to
dig
into
just
how
major
maintenance
is
calculated
kind
of
re-educate
ourselves,
but
it
started
at
like
125
and
it
worked
its
way
down.
What
is
it
now?
110
percent.
J
Mr
chairman,
representative,
harshman
matt
willmarth,
also
the
the
allowable
gross
square.
Footage
for
educational
square
footage
is
the
lesser
of
actual
girl
square
footage
and
it
started
at
135
ratcheted
down
to
125
and
now
it's
stable
at
115
yeah,
so
they
they
are
for
educational
square
footages.
Provided
the
lesser
of
that
amount
for
office
and
warehouse.
J
It
looks
at
the
total
percentage
of
that
in
proportion
to
the
educational
allowable
square
footage
and
it's
a
little
bit
more
complex
because
it
provides
a
certain
percent
based
upon
if
it's
90
or
100
percent,
in
proportion
of
your
educational
square
footage,
and
we
can
certainly
review
that.
With
the
committee
of
this
interim.
I.
J
I
Talked
about
it
five
or
six
years,
you
know,
but,
but
I
do
think
I
mean
when
we
go
full
circle
around
to
this,
we'll
realize
it's
pretty
good
policy.
We
got
because
a
lot
of
the
enhancement
is
really
it's
more
more
roof
space
and
you're.
When
you
do
the
roof
on
a
new
school
you're,
not
going
to
say:
oh,
that's
enhancement,
I'm
going
to
stop
15
feet
from
the
edge,
and
so
that's
really
where
most
of
that
is
so
it's
you
know,
yeah.
I
think
some
of
us
think
enhancements
are.
F
We
spent
millions
of
dollars
on
that
increased
the
space
of
our
auditorium,
so
it
became
a
community
center
auditorium.
It's
used
for
lots
of
purposes
as
opposed
to
just
a
you
know.
What
what
is
currently
provided
for
in
the
in
the
model
for
funding
is,
is
going
to
be
a
more
modest
auditorium,
obviously
than
what
we
have
a
commons
area
that
can
expand
dramatically,
that
that
increase
the
square
footage.
But
again,
all
of
these
things
you
have
to
maintain.
F
You
have
to
have
major
maintenance
for
and
then
obviously
for
us
we
we
did
put
in
funding
for
ongoing
maintenance
requirements
for
the
pool,
but
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
enhancements
that
aren't
simply
all
right.
Well,
we
bought
a
new
track
or
we
bought
a
new
pool.
There's
a
lot
more
possibilities
than
that
and
most
of
ours
were
that
educational
programming,
side
of
things.
F
B
Great
any
other
thoughts
on
this
particular
item.
If,
if
not,
what
about
some
of
the
other
items
that
we've
discussed-
let's
discuss
them
here
on
committee
before
I
go
to
public
comment.
I
I
just
mr
chairman
on
this
major
maintenance.
I
guess
I
would
like
to,
and
you
know,
you'll
decide
as
chairman,
but
more
just
a
broader
kind
of
learning
thing
and
as
we
learn
you
know,
I
think
if
you
say
I
just
want
to
focus
on
this
ten
percent
for
enhancements
there's
a
whole
bigger
issue.
I
think,
and
it's
really
fascinating.
I
think
it's
it'd
be
good
for
all
of
us
to
review
that
that
whole
process
of
major
maintenance.
B
So
yeah,
I
I
believe
it's
you
know.
Senator
costa
wants
to
look
at
the
entire
procedure
on
how
we
developed
that
number.
So
I
think
we're
looking
at
a
30
000
foot
view
of
it.
So
I
think
you're
right,
mr
sherman.
G
B
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
really
through
the
process.
I
think
the
learning
is
going
to
be
great
for
us
all
to
have
a
better
update
on
it,
but
I
think
also,
maybe
there's
going
to
be
a
need
to
tweak
some
things
this
here
there
a
little
bit,
I'm
not
I'm
not
out
to
get
after
anybody,
I'm
out
to
learn
what's
going
on
and
then
maybe
work
from
there
to
do.
We
need
to
consider
tweaks.
Do
we
are
we
doing
the
routine
maintenance
that
keeps
them
the
major
maintenance
from
becoming
an
issue?
So
thank
you.
H
B
Okay,
do
you
want
to
talk
about
the
other
item
that.
K
Mr
chairman,
these
are
these
were
certainly
topics
that
came
to
us.
You
know
after
the
october
meeting
of
last
year,
and
I
think
it
even
says
that
number
one
there
you
have
to
see
our
discussion
after
october
10th
we've
clearly
seen
that
districts
come
to
the
department
for
needs
here
and
there
and
they
just
don't
fit
the
current
statute,
and
so
then
they're
basically
turned
away
at
the
door
and
said
you
know
no
we're
not
going
to
address
that.
So
I'd
like
to
see,
maybe
what
we
can
do
about
discussing
that.
K
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
see
any
major
changes
immediately
on
it.
But
I
do
think
that
having
a
discussion
between
some
of
the
school
districts
that
are
facing
those
issues
and
the
department
in
front
of
the
committee
would
probably
be
helpful
for
us
and
then
looking
at
what
we
had
to
do
this
year,
and
I
think
we
had
two-
maybe
three
different
budgets
that
were
pushed
forward,
that
their
their
construction
line
didn't
quite
add
up
to
exactly
what
we
were
looking
at
and
in
an
effort
to
try
to
square
that
up.
K
You
know
we
we
push
them
forward
underneath
amendments
and
we
kind
of
have
to
rely
on
getting
the
body's
support
for
some
amendments
in
that,
unless
we
do
it
in
committee
with
appropriations
and
then
even
that
you
have
to
get
a
standing
committee
amendment-
and
I
I
just
don't
think
that's
the
right
way
to
do
business
if
we've
got
a
school
that
is
ready
to
go,
and
we
know
that
you
know
phase
two
is
coming
up
and
it's
just
going
to
be
a
month
difference
from
us
coming
out
of
session.
K
We
should
be
looking
at
what
we
can
do
to
prioritize
making
sure
that
those
do
not
get
delayed.
Those
types
of
issues
across
the
state
you
know
are
really
what
hinder
what
we're
doing.
So.
Those
are
my
two
issues
that
I
saw
last
interim
that
I
think
we
can
address.
I
don't
think
they
take
a
ton
of
time,
but
I
certainly
do
think
that
they're
worthy
of
discussion.
B
Maybe
any
thoughts
on
renovation
as
addressed
in
statutes.
His
first
item.
G
Mr
truman,
I
would
agree,
I
think,
that's
a
good
idea.
You
know
really,
as
we
don't
have
as
much
revenue
as
we
did
in
years
past
the
ability
to
remodel
schools
versus
full-on
new
construction
and
generate
some
cost
savings.
When
we
know
the
need
is
there,
but,
but
instead
of
scrapping
it
all
and
starting
over,
I
think
there's
some
real
cost
savings
to
be
had,
and
so
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
Okay,.
B
And
I
think
I
think,
the
the
other
issue
about
a
quick
movement
on
on
the
timeline
of
things,
something
I
actually
pushed
when
I
was
a
designer
you
know
so
many
times.
We've
always
lost
our
construction
season
because
because
our
legislature's
inability
to
move
quickly-
and
so
I
I
think
we
ought
to
probably
look
at
that
entire
process-
how
we.
B
F
On
that,
we've
obviously
had
a
lot
better
luck
over
the
years
where
we
combine
the,
I
guess,
the
phase
two
design
into
the
construction
so
that
you
have
continuity
between
those
two
and
at
that
point,
as
you
as
you're,
finalizing
the
design
you
just
roll
directly
into
construction
as
as
the
season
opens,
and
whenever
we
separate
those
in
the
budget.
F
B
Three
dollar
wise.
It
makes
sense
to
do
that,
but
construction
schedule
wise
and
it's
really
completely
opposite
thinking
and
so
I've
I've
maintained
that
level.
One
ought
to
be
separate
and
then
level
two
and
three
ought
to
be
together.
The
the
the
issue
comes
about
on
on
what
delivery
pro
process
is
used,
so
it
I
think
it
would
if
it's
direct
design
bid,
build
if
it's
a
crma,
if
it's
a,
if
it's
a.
B
We
call
that
a
design
build
there's
a
lot
of
different
methods
out
there,
and
I've
discussed
a
lot
of
them
with
the
with
the
director.
In
fact,
he
actually
mentioned
it
in
his
confirmation
hearings
about
the
ability
to
use
a
different
delivery
method
depending
on
the
project,
depending
on
the
timeline
and
depending
on
on
you
know,
the
available
funding.
So
I
agree
with
you
it.
We
need
it'll
change,
probably
with
each
method,
but
I
think
we
need
to.
F
Maybe
broadening
that
to
not
just
the
the
budget
timeline
but,
as
you
were
saying,
the
the
method
of
of
project
management
and
delivery
is
something
else
that
we
could
look
at.
F
We
don't
necessarily
do
this
efficiently
and
again,
I
think
back
to
the
laramie
high
school
example,
where
the
timeline
led
to
something
like
10
million
dollars,
an
extra
bid
and
what
we
ended
up
doing
then
it
was
you
know,
senator
nicholas
and
I
kind
of
went
to
the
school
board
and
said
you
know
we.
We
want
to
reject
the
bid,
because
this
is
absurd.
This
is
too
much
go
back
and
bid
it
again
and
do
it
on
a
with
a
relaxed
timeline,
and
then
we
save
10
million
on
that
project.
F
For
for
the
same
outcome,
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
get
ourselves
caught
in
the
process
and
the
process
constrains
us
and
costs
us,
and-
and
maybe
we
need
to
be
thinking
outside
the
box
and
do
it
better.
We
have
all
sorts
of
statutory
requirements
that
probably
hold
us
back
from
optimizing
this
process
in
a
way
that
gets
us
higher
quality
for
lower
cost.
If
we're
just
a
little
more
thoughtful
steve,
yeah.
I
Representative
harshman,
I
think
it's
good
point
senators
and
I
think
part
of
this.
You
know
with
this
volatility
I
think
districts
once
they
get
appropriated.
They
get
scared
that
geesha,
I
gotta
hurry
up
and
do
this
or
the
legislature
next
session
will
take
it
away
from
me
and
we've
seen
whether
it's
an
auditorium
or
you
know,
I
know
one
in
my
school
district.
I
You
know
10
years
ago,
okay,
I
have
to
go
to
revenue
to
hear
bill,
but
I
just
I
thought
one
other
thing:
if
we
have
a
meeting
in
casper
the
wyoming
school
for
the
deaf,
and
it
is
a
very
unique
situation
on
the
title
who
owns
the
land,
this
public
school-
that's
hooked
next
to
adjoined
to
shared
maintenance
issues.
I
B
I
I
certainly
agree-
and
in
fact
I've
asked
staff
this
for
this
interim-
that
every
place
we
meet
I'd
like
to
see
us
tour
a
school
facility,
so
we're
gonna
meet
twice
in
cheyenne
and
once
in
casper.
So
let's
think
about
what
we
want
to
do
in
casper
for
you
or
there.
I
think
and.
B
B
The
the
the
cost
associated
with
what
we
do
you
know,
if
you
recall
kerry,
was
pulled
funding
on
that
and
and
while
it
wasn't
extended,
it
wasn't
increased
the
the
next
year.
What
happened
is
we
had
to
redesign
the
school
and
drop
some
square
footage
in
order
to
make
the
budget
and
and
then
we,
because
it
didn't
go
out
to
bid
till
october,
we
built
through
two
winter
seasons
that
cost
we.
We
had
a
change
order
of
750
000
for
winter
construction.
B
K
Mr
chairman,
I'd
say
the
last
thing
on
it
night.
This
is
certainly
a
a
really
overarching
goal,
but
you
know
this
committee
really
we
discussed
even
as
tanya
brought
forward
we're
going
to
see
a
different
list
of
what's
going
to
be
coming
forward
to
us
and
it
it
attempts
to
remove
politics.
K
You
know
away
from
it
in
general,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
what
we
need
to
continue
to
work
towards
is
removing
the
personalities
and
removing
the
the
locations
away
from
it
as
much
as
possible,
because
at
this
point
it's
our
job
is
not
to
determine
whether
or
not
lander
really
needs
a
school.
If
the
numbers
say
that
lander
needs
a
school,
then
we
build
the
school
or
we
we've
refurbished
it.
As
we've
said,
and
we
look
at
what
we
can
do
to
do
this,
but
we
have
really
got
to
focus
as
this
committee.
K
In
my
opinion,
we
need
to
worry
about
taking
politics
out
of
the
decisions.
Stop
placing
you
know
pet
projects
above
everything
else,
and
we
really
need
to
start
looking
at
what
it
is
that
really
needs
to
be
done
across
us,
and
so,
mr
chairman,
I
I
look
at
us
having
really
two
interim
ways
of
doing
this.
K
I
see
us
having
a
statutory
obligation
doing
what
our
statutory
maintenance
or
statutory
work
is,
and
then
I
see
us
having
basically
three
ranked
items
four
if
we
want
to
take
on
representative
harshman's,
but
we've
got
representative
walter
and
senator
cost's
major
maintenance
discussion
and
then
the
two
items
that
I
brought
forward,
such
as
the
renovation
and
quick
movement,
and
I
actually
think
opening
that
up
as
senator
office
said,
is
probably
the
smarter
way
to
go
a
much
larger
picture.
K
You
know
what
is
our
deliverable
and
work
with
the
staff
to
determine
whether
or
not
what
we're
looking
at
is
the
correct
way
to
go
and,
and
ultimately
like
say
with
carrie
junior
high,
we
we
cost
ourselves,
and
that
was
politics
in
general.
So
I
think
that's
I
think
we're
pretty
well
said.
In
my
opinion,
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
has
got
anything
else
that
they'd
like
to
discuss,
but
I
feel
like
that's:
a
pretty
full
plate
enter
cost.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
don't
have
anything
else,
but
I
do
think
that
with
the
renovation
we
need
to
look
at.
How
does
that
parallel
with
new
build,
and
how
can
we
best
come
up
with
solutions
for
both,
because
I
think
renovation
in
a
lot
of
cases
is
a
worthy
way
of
moving
forward,
rather
than
saying,
let's
tear
this
down.
If
it's
got
the
the
proper
structure
to
where
we
can
go
ahead
and
renovate
it,
it
makes
sense
to
try
to
go
through
that,
and
so
I
I
do
think
looking
at
that.
B
That
that's
the
age-old
dilemma.
Certainly
you
know
I've
I've.
I've
always
dealt
with
it
with
all
the
clients
that
I've
had
in
my
professional
practice
is
at
what
point
do
you
decide
it's
more
economically
feasible
to
replace
than
to
and
to
refurbish
and
remodel?
So
that's
what
you
know,
we'll
lean
on
our
department
to
bring
us
that
kind
of
advice,
and
hopefully
we'll
we'll
heed
it
and
not
make
it
political
so,
but
but
but
that
is
an
age-old
dilemma.
B
You
know
at
what
point
at
some
point
they
all
have
to
be
replaced
at
some
point.
Okay,
any
any
further
out
of
those
three,
I'm
assuming
committee
you're
good
with
the
four
items
that
we
typically
bring
every
year.
I
think
there's
four:
aren't
there
yeah
yeah,
those,
I
think,
will
maintain
those
right
and
then
these
new
items
yeah
are
there
any
other
items
we
want
to
think
about.
B
Okay,
all
right!
I
I
at
this
time
I'll
open
it
for
public
comment.
If
anybody
wants
to
comment,
no,
is
there
anybody
online?
No
okay!
Well,
that's
great
public
comments.
Mr.
D
D
The
second
is
an
overview
of
facility
planning
in
the
budget
process,
including
renovation
requests
and
any
cost
savings
that
may
be
realized
as
a
result
of
renovating
in
comparison
to
a
new,
build
and
explore
the
benefits
of
appropriating
for
designing
construction
in
a
single
line.
Item.
That's
the
second
item
and
then
the
final
item
is
review.
Project
management
and
construction,
delivery
methods
and
potential
cost
savings.
That
may
be
realized.
B
Yeah,
that's
that's
pretty
broad
and
that's
exactly
what
we
want
sound
good
to
you.
Maybe
okay,
okay
and.
E
E
Okay
management
council
meets
for
these;
do
they
have
their
meeting
set?
Yet
mr.