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B
C
B
D
C
A
Okay,
chairman
Eklund,
if
I'm
reading,
The
Joint
Committee
rules
correctly
in
order
to
have
a
quorum,
we
need
four
senators
and
we
currently
only
have
three.
B
Okay,
we're
going
to
probably
right
away
won't
be
voting
on
anything
we'll
get
into
the
votes.
A
little
bit
later,
I
believe
not
much
later
so
I
think
we
might
try
to
get
a
hold
of
Senator,
Ellis
or
Senator
Guru.
Does
anybody
have
their
phone
numbers?
Would
you
try
to
text
them.
E
F
B
B
G
B
Think
it
is
fair.
The
agenda
had
us
voting
in
about
an
hour
less
than
an
hour
on
on
some
things.
Well,
it'd
take
a
while
to
go
through
them
too.
Let's
go
ahead.
B
We
may
change
the
agenda
a
bit
we'll
start
with
what
we
have
here
at
135
project
updates
we'll
go
ahead
and
work
on
that
and
and
as
we
go
along,
if
we
have
to
vote
on
anything-
and
we
don't
have
the
Quorum
established
yet
then
we'll
we'll
wait
until
we
do
I
think,
okay,
so
the
first
item
for
our
consideration
is,
is
going
to
be
brought
to
us
by
chance
to
Valley
and
it's
on
the
critical
aging
irrigation
infrastructure
assessment
level.
One
study.
H
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
Chase
tavelli.
With
wanting
our
development
office
update
on
the
critical
aging
irrigation
infrastructure
study,
we
have
now
completed
all
10
of
the
state
meetings.
Those
were
finished
last
year,
late
attendance
ranged
anywhere
from
14
to
in
Lyman
to
35.
In
Laramie,
we
met
around
the
state
very
selective
areas
to
to
look
at
where
there's
a
lot
of
irrigation
and
and
to
try
to
be
as
reasonable
as
possible
to
accommodate
as
many
people
as
we
could.
H
G
Chairman
Eckland,
this
is
representative
Summers
yeah,
just
you
know,
since
you
do
have
maybe
some
time
you
need
to
to
kill
a
little
bit.
I,
don't
know,
but
I
I
know
on
the
house
side
there's
at
least
four
of
us
that
are
brand
new
members
to
select
water,
including
myself
and
I-
think
there's
a
few
that
are
brand
new
Pro,
probably
to
the
Senate
side
and
I'm
wondering
as
we
go
into
these
projects
that
are
going
to
be
talked
about.
G
If,
if
the
presenter
could
provide,
maybe
just
a
shade
background
of
where
we
are
and
whatever
process
we're
in
I
think
it'll
give
the
new
members
some
context
of
what
we're
doing
here.
Just
a
suggestion.
Mr
chairman.
B
H
Well,
thank
you.
Mr
chair,
I,
hadn't
thought
of
that
I
I
agree
completely
I
apologize
for
having
not
thought
of
that.
So
the
critical
aging
irrigation
infrastructure
study
was
kind
of
born
out
of
the
tunnel
collapse
and
it's
it's
my
understanding
that
the
legislators
became
very
concerned
about
any
other.
It
was
referred
to
as
ticking
time
bombs
at
the
time
that
are
that
are
out
there
around
the
state.
H
H
10
of
those
meetings
were
to
be
in
locations
around
the
state
of
Wyoming
to
inform
the
general
public,
and
we
invited
legislators
and
water
development
commission
Commissioners
to
those
meetings
to
explain
the
project,
hear
an
update
from
different
funding
opportunities
such
as
the
water
development,
commission,
the
nrcs
and
the
Bureau
of
Reclamation,
and
then
what
we
recently
completed
was
a
definition
of
criticality.
Once
we
get
criticality
defined
we're
going
to
rank
these
structures
and
the
structures
I'm
going
to
go
over
that
in
a
little
bit.
H
So
got
hit
okay,
sorry,
what
our
consultant
is
doing.
Their
approach
to
the
study
is
to
take
all
of
the
existing
information
out
of
approximately
120
plus
a
water
development
commission,
Publications
projects
that
we've
completed,
as
well
as
talk
to
irrigators
around
the
state,
hydrographer
Commissioners,
nrcs,
Personnel
conservation
districts
and
then
we're
trying
to
gather
as
many
different
structures
as
we
possibly
can.
Okay,
each
of
those
structures
are
going
to
be
given
a
a
rating
of
fair
poor,
good
condition.
Failing
and
the
database
will
be
refined
from
there.
H
So
we'll
be
looking
at
failing
and
poor
structures,
and
then
the
goal
is
to
try
to
to
break
the
the
database
down
as
far
as
we
can
so
that
we
come
up
with
structures
that
are
considered
most
critical
to
the
state
of
Wyoming
in
in
magnitude,
mostly,
for
you
know,
potential
funding
and
the
potential
for
the
damage
that
they
could
cause.
Okay.
H
So,
where
we
are
today,
we've
completed
the
10
State
meetings
had
what
we
consider
to
be
pretty
good
attendance
at
each
one
of
the
meetings.
H
The
consultant
is
currently
working
on
the
database
that
I
described
and
they're
they're,
trying
to
finish
that
up
right
now,
they're
up
to
4,
000
structures
right
now,
and
those
structures
include
good
and
excellent
condition
structures,
as
well
as
the
fair
and
failing
or
poor,
and
failing
I
apologize
and
they're
expecting
to
have
about
10
000
structures
that
they're
going
to
have
to
to
work
with
in
the
end
part
of
the
process
of
gathering
data.
Looking
through
our
projects,
projects
that
we
have
done
is
to
contact
entities.
H
There
are
157
entities
in
our
irrigation
system
survey
and
the
consultant
has
reached
out
to
every
one
of
those,
including
Conservation
District,
Center,
CS
personnel
and
hydro
for
Commissioners
they've,
reached
out
to
all
of
them
to
get
further
information,
and
one
of
the
questions
that
they
asked
was
what
are
the
things
that
keep
you
up
at
night
so
that
we
could
have
help
determining
what
what
structures
are
critical
to
each
district
each
entity?
H
The
consultant
has
been
on
18
site
visits
to
actually
look
at
structures
and
and
each
one
of
them
there
were
multiple
structures
looked
at
at
the
time.
Casparova
Midvale
and
Goshen
are
just
three
of
those
to
to
name
a
few.
H
Most
recently
we
completed
our
criticality
Workshop,
the
attendees
were
water
development
staff,
Barry
Lawrence,
Bill,
Brewer,
Jason
Mead
and
myself,
the
entire
team
of
Consultants,
and
what
we
did
is
we
sat
down
and
we
defined
variables
that
will
help
sort
the
database
structure
and
it's
done
in
two
phases
with
phase
one
being
the
first
cut
will
be
all
structures
that
are
in
poor
or
failing
condition.
H
Then
we're
going
to
look
at
what
type
of
structure
it
is
like
a
diversion,
a
pump
station
head
gate,
a
siphon,
in
other
words,
items
that,
if
they're
lost,
then
irrigation
stops
completely
to
The
Entity
and
then
we're
going
to
look
at
acre,
serves
and
then
kind
of
in
a
second
phase.
That's
that's
more
informative
is
to
look
at
things
like
collateral
damage,
permitting
funding
potential
things
like
that.
H
C
G
G
Representative,
thank
you
or
chairman.
Thank
you,
my
I
guess.
My
question
is,
as
this
is
ruled
out,
obviously,
around
the
state,
the
is
structures,
the
structures
just
include.
Can
they
just
include
the
canal
or
is
it
a
structure
within
a
canal
like
a
tunnel
like
a
head
gate
siphons
that
sort
of
thing?
So
what
is
the
so?
Can
the
structure
of
the
be
the
canal
itself?
That's
the
question.
I
have.
H
There
are
Mr
chair.
Excuse
me
go
ahead.
There
are
areas
identified,
Canal
embankments,
where
there's
potential
issues
we're
really
looking
at
perched
canals.
So,
yes
that
can
be
considered
a
structure.
A
canal
can
and
that's
going
to
have
to
be
something
identified
by
an
entity
or
the
consultant
on
site.
B
H
Okay,
Mr
chair
this
is
the
laprel
damn
updates.
This
summer,
they
completed
a
very
successful
drilling
program,
in
spite
of
some
unique
challenges
for
those
of
you,
who've
been
on
site.
You
know
that
that
left
abutment
is
on
cliffs,
and
so
in
order
to
drill
to
to
get
data
down
below
the
surface,
we
had
to
have
a
helicopter
come
in
and
fly
the
drilling
rig
up
to
up
on
top
of
the
cliff
where
they
drilled,
and
it
was
very
successful,
currently
they're
they're
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
under
budget
on
that.
H
The
only
thing
left
to
do
is
some
site
Reclamation,
which
will
be
done
this
spring.
So
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
come
in
significantly
under
budget
they're,
currently
working
on
a
concrete
mixed
design.
There
were
two
areas
on
site
that
were
drilled
to
look
for
aggregate
potential
and
neither
of
those
have
panned
out
so
far
so
they're
looking
at
two
more
local
commercial
sites,
the
the
mixed
design
is
important
to
help
inform
their
modeling
as
well
as
the
as
future
reinforced
or
yeah
roller
compacted
concrete
strength
properties.
H
A
physical
model
is
being
built
right
now
in
a
lab
in
Seattle
Washington.
It's
a
a
mock-up
of
the
dam
itself
and
they're
going
to
run
floods
over
the
top
of
it.
To
look
at
stresses
on
the
dam
structure
as
well
as
the
evaluate
the
spillway
design.
The
the
spillway
is
pretty
interesting.
H
The
way
the
dam
is
sitting
and
the
way
the
the
stream
kind
of
changes,
Direction
Downstream,
where
they're
trying
to
not
have
the
spillway
dump
the
water
up
on
the
the
cliff
eroding
the
cliff
they're,
trying
to
get
it
to
land
more
in
the
channel.
So
the
the
structural
model
will
determine
that
there
has
been
some
permitting
discussion.
H
We
met
with
the
United
States
Bureau
of
Reclamation
in
February,
and
it
was
determined
that
they're
going
to
be
a
lead
agency.
They
stated
that
we
will
need
to
coordinate
as
a
cooperating
agency
with
the
usace
and
they
are
expecting
an
environmental
assessment
process.
They
said
that
they
believe
that
cadx
is
not
feasible,
that
an
EA
is
the
most
likely
currently
we're
we're
they're
working
on
draft
letters
back
and
forth.
H
We
did
receive
a
letter
from
the
Bureau
of
Rec,
stating
these
claims
of
the
need
for
an
EA,
so
stepping
forward
away
from
the
project
a
little
bit
is
the
the
financial
agreement
that
we're
working
on
with
the
with
the
Bureau
of
Reclamation.
So
a
little
history
in
the
infrastructure
Bill
also
called
the
bipartisan
infrastructure.
Lock
there
was
a
hundred
million
dollars
allocated
to
a
karyzak
dam
that
met
certain
other
Criterion.
H
H
The
Bureau
of
Reclamation
sent
a
letter
back
to
the
governor
saying
we
agree.
Laprell
dam
is
meets
the
Criterion
and
we
have
this
money
available
can
apply
for
it.
So
in
the
meantime
they
requested
information
from
our
office.
We
went
back
and
forth
and
it
it
culminated
in
US
submitting
an
application
last
month
or
a
month
a
month
before
that,
four
to
six
weeks
ago,
to
the
Bureau
of
Reclamation
requesting
five
million
dollars
which
was
set
aside
in
the
Bureau
of
reclamations
fiscal
year
2023
plan.
H
We
just
received.
Last
week
we
received
a
draft
Financial
agreement
for
that
funding.
It
looks
like
we're
going
to
be
selected
and
right
now
we're
reviewing
that
document.
But
everything
looks
like
it's
in
place.
We
we
did
also
make,
in
the
meantime
a
request
for
the
remaining
95
million
dollars.
We
don't
want
to
take
a
chance
of
that
getting
used
somewhere
else
by
a
change
in
the
legislation.
H
So
we
made
that
request
and
it's
unknown
how
that's
going
to
turn
turn
out,
we'll
have
to
see
how
fiscal
year
24
is
defined,
and
that's
that's
where
we
sit
with
that
any
questions.
F
F
So
Mr
chairman,
a
follow-up
Chase
is
I
thought
we'd,
already
contracted
phase
three
level,
two
study
for
engineering
designs
on
this.
This
is
why
we're
looking
at
a
roller,
Compact
and
concrete.
So
so
again,
it's
it's
Borg
going
to
redesign
this
project
after
we've
gone
through
these
current
level
with
water
development.
What's
what's
the
rationale
on
the
design
side.
H
Mr
chair
thanks
for
that
question:
Senator
Hicks,
the
consultant
is
just
beyond
10
percent
design.
At
this
point,
the
this
funding,
this
five
million
dollars
should
get
us
all
the
way
through
the
entire
30
60
and
90
percent
design
and
get
us
through
bidding
and
procurement.
So
there's
still
some
planning
to
be
done,
the
you
know,
there's
the
physical
model
that's
being
worked
on
and
we
expect.
H
F
F
That's
correct
all
right,
thank
you
that
clarifies
it
Mr
chairman
one
other
question
on
the
design
of
the
the
stream
down
the
stream
of
that
I'm
curious
is:
is
they
looking
at
Downstream
potential
modifications
or
actually
you
know,
typically
a
roller
compacted
concrete
Dam?
The
dam
is
a
spillway
just
a
little
more
input
on
that
chase
as
to
what
they're
actually
looking
at
to
try
to
guide
that
foul
wag
because
releases
over
the
or
the
spills
over
the
dam.
H
Mr
chairman,
there's,
there's
going
to
be
no
design
to
redesign
of
the
the
thawag
of
the
stream
to
my
understanding
at
this
point,
the
spillway
is
a
flip
bucket
design,
so
water
is
going
to
spill
over
the
top
and
it's
going
to
be
shot
out
away
from
the
the
dams
foundation
for
protecting
the
dam
and
it
we're
trying
to
find
out
well.
What
the
consultant
is
trying
to
find
out
is
if
this
water
is
going
to
be
smashing
up
against
the
cliff.
H
B
We
started
this
project
several
years
ago
because
the
cliffs
were
looking
like
they
were
going
to
rocks
on
the
cliffs
look
like
they
were
going
to
fall
on
the
structure
itself.
On
close
examination,
they
discovered
some
real
issues
with
the
dam
itself
and,
as
we
proceeded
through
the
project,
we'll
probably
be
moving
the
the
reservoir.
It
might
correct
on
that
down
about
a
quarter
of
a
mile
or
so.
B
So
that's
the
reason
for
the
environmental
assessment
and
for
maybe
years
of
planning
before
we
get
it
done.
Also,
we
haven't
been
able
to
Cloud
seed
that
area,
because
this
structure
can't
really
stand
they're,
only
filling
it,
what
half
full
or
so
so
the
irrigators
aren't
able
to
use
it
very
well
yet
so
that's
what
we've
got
going
on
with
laprel.
C
You,
sir,
just
a
quick
question:
I
may
be
off
base
here,
but
are
there
a
scheduled
from
a
project
perspective
or
timeline,
a
critical
path?
Most
importantly,
what
are
the
timelines
Auditors
such
associated
with
these
projects,
and
how
are
we
doing
on
that
timeline?.
H
Mr
chair
right
now
we
are
on
time.
I
can't
quote
you
exact
dates,
part
of
the
application
that
we
had
to
turn
into
the
Bureau
of
Reclamation
included
tasks.
H
You
know
rough
scope
of
work
and
timelines,
and
my
consultant
has
informed
me
that
we
are
moving
on
the
critical
path.
There's
been
no
major
delays,
so
everything
is
is
working
as
as
good
as
it
can
right
now.
So
far,.
C
H
Mr
chair
we're
I've
referred
to
two
projects
so
far
today.
One
is
a
critical
aging
irrigation
infrastructure
project,
and
that
is
on
time.
We
will
have
a
final
report
at
the
end
of
December.
The
laprel
project
is
a
separate
project
and-
and
yes
it's
on
time,.
C
F
H
B
H
Mr,
chair
I,
have
asked
my
consultant
numerous
times
if
they're
confident
with
this
118
million
dollar
proposal,
and
they
have
indicated
to
me
that
they
feel
that
they're
pretty
confident
it's
going
to
be
around
there
potentially
less.
F
H
F
Vice
chair
one
other
follow-up
Chase
with
that
2026
potential
construction
start
date.
What
is
the
the
lag
time
that
we're
looking
at
right
now?
Because
if
the
Bor
saying
this
is
an
EA
level
decision
versus
an
Eis
I
would
think
that
that
can
be
completed
in
12
months
under
an
EA.
What?
What?
What
other
time
constraints
are
we
looking
at.
I
Mr
chairman
I'd
say
the
other
time.
Concern
is
just
completing.
Design
itself
is
probably
going
to
take
a
year
to
18
months
and
they
don't
want
to
get
too
far
down
to
the
nine
path
before
they
get
the
NEPA
completed,
because
if
there's
anything
that
comes
out
of
NEPA
you'd
have
to
backtrack
on
the
design
potentially
for
mitigation
measures.
Or
what
have
you?
I
F
Yeah
and
and
Jason
my
my
question
is,
is
on
that
that
would
be
normal
under
a
full-blown
Eis
under
an
EA
level
decision,
I
mean
this
is
a
much
much
smaller
document
and
I
guess
had
asked
to
go
back
and,
and
maybe
have
some
discussions
with
the
consultant.
F
The
Bor
on
that
seems
to
me
like
at
a
10
design
would
be
sufficient
to
do
the
environmental
assessment.
This
is
not
an
impact
statement,
doesn't
require
the
level
of
analysis
and
alternative
consideration
that
you
would
with
a
normal
Eis.
I
Yeah
and
Mr
chairman
I
would
add
that
we
have
a
we've,
had
conversations
with
both
the
Corps
of
Engineers
and
Bureau
of
Reclamation
and
plan
to
have
them
in
the
same
room
here
in
the
next
hopefully
month.
I
think
I
can't
remember
when
we
had
the
scheduled
meeting,
so
they
can
have
discussion
back
and
forth
on
what
each
agency
is
going
to
need
in
the
NEPA
process.
I
But
assuming
that
gets
started,
you
know
fairly
quickly
once
we
get
through
that
you
could
pretty
much
anticipate
it's
going
to
take
the
rest
of
the
2023
anyway,
even
on
an
EA
at
a
minimum
or
something
six
months
and
maybe
closer
to
a
year.
And
then
you
know
that
puts
you
into
2024
the
design
taking
anywhere
from
the
year
to
18
months.
Hopefully
we
can
get
that
started
sooner.
G
Though,
thank
you,
this
is,
this
is
representative
Summers,
Mr
chairman.
Yes,.
G
Chairman,
thank
you.
I
have
a
question
on
the
on
the
NEPA
anymore.
If
you
want
to
get
anything
done,
you
almost
got
to
contract
to
NEPA
I,
don't
know
whether
this
is
being
contracted
as
part
of
this
process
or
whether
it's
not,
but
if
you
leave
it
to
the
Bureau
of
wreck,
it'll
be
forever.
If
you're
Contracting
it
then
it'll
be
it'll
happen.
A
lot
quicker,
so
curiosity,
who's,
who's,
doing
the
NEPA.
I
Mr,
chairman
HDR,
well
respect
and
HDR
is
our
existing
consultant
and
typically
on
an
EA,
we
can
use
the
consultant
we
already
have
under
contract.
So
that's
the
plan
right
now
under
Eis,
you'd
have
to
go
out
to
a
third
party
contract,
but
either
way
you
wouldn't
be
high,
wouldn't
be
using
the
federal
Agency.
For
the
reasons
you
mentioned.
B
Okay,
any
further
questions
committee,
I,
guess
I-
would
add
I'm
I.
It
looks
to
me
like
you're,
pushing
this
along
pretty
quickly.
I'm
surprised
that
that
it
could,
that
that
is
as
far
along
as
it
is.
I
was
thinking,
15
20
years
deal,
but
maybe
not
I
think
I
think
it's
going
to
happen
quicker
than
that
which
is
really
good
for
the
irrigators
of
that
region.
Okay,
moving
on
to
the
next.
F
F
K
B
B
A
B
L
B
D
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
members
of
Select
water
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
today
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
their
consultant
selection,
Proctor
for
new
projects,
they're
on
a
separate
timeline,
special
process,
we'll
talk
about
that.
The
two
projects
for
the
Green
River
little
snake,
river
basins,
conveyance
loss
level,
130
and
the
Rollins
water
master
plan,
level
and
study,
and
to
refresh
your
memory.
These
two
projects
were
amended
in
by
select
water
at
the
December
7th
meeting,
and
so
as
such
I
should
mention.
D
The
the
conveyance
law
study
was
amended
in
at
500
000
and
the
Rollins
water
master
plan
was
amended
in
a
250
000
and.
M
D
Such
we
have
not
done
consultant
selection
on
these
projects,
since
they
came
in
amended
into
the
bill.
I
do
have
both
our
project
managers
here,
going
to
say
a
couple
words
about
the
projects
and
then
I'll
run
you
through
where
we
are
in
consultant
selection,
because
we're
fast
tracking
on
that
as
well.
Our
project
manager
on
the
conveyance
law
study
is
Jay
Smith
and
he's
going
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
that
project.
N
Mr
chair
so
for
the
Green
River
and
little
snake
Basin
conveyance
law
study
the
real
meat
of
the
scope.
It
essentially
identifies
sites,
they
represent
a
larger
geographic
region
and
they
develop
methods
for
measuring
loss
and
use
in
consumptive
use
and
then
characterize
return
flows.
N
F
F
F
O
Mr
Chair
George
Moser
with
the
water
Development
Office,
one
of
the
things
in
in
answer,
at
least
to
Senator
Hicks
question.
One
of
the
things
that
we
tried
to
move
into
the
request
for
proposal
on
this
is
the
idea
that
we
are
expecting
the
consultant
to
have
several
different
pilot
sites
and
measurement
sites
in
order
to
get
that
idea
of
how
much
the
underlying
geologic
material
might
be,
providing
as
far
as
a
mechanism
for
the
conveyance
loss.
O
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
quite
a
bit
was
at
a
first
stage,
overlying
the
geologic
mapping
near
surface
Bedrock,
geologic
mapping
and
alluvial
material
mapping
with
those
various
canals
and
ditches
that
way
we
can
get
at
what
what
might
the
component
of
the
underlying
geologic
material
be
contributing
as
far
as
losses
in
that
particular
canal?
O
G
Chairman,
thank
you,
I
guess
my
question
now.
Obviously
this
this
will
occur
in
my
district
to
a
great
degree
and
I'm
wondering
how
you're
gonna
I
guess
bring
in
bring
in
kind
of
the
irrigators
or
bring
in
the
Conservation
District
into
trying
to
help.
Whoever
is
whoever
gets
the
contract
to
take
a
look
at
you
know.
What
type
of
ditches
would
you
need
to
look
at?
G
It
kind
of
goes
to
the
point
of
what
Senator
Hicks
was
was
getting
at
is
what
is
the
geology,
but
I
think
some
of
the
on-ground
knowledge
will
tell
you
I.
Think
irrigators
can
tell
you
the
difference
between
one
side
of
the
Valley
and
the
other
and
and
where
you
get
representative
ditches
to
look
at
or
canals
to
look
at
for
this
lost
study.
So
I'm
curious
how
you'll
bring
in
local
knowledge
into
this
process.
N
Mr
chair,
okay,
two
representative,
summers's
question
part
of
the
task
number
three
is
site
determination
and
that
will
be
done
in
cooperation
with
the
SEO,
but
also
the
landowners,
the
districts,
because,
again,
for
most
of
these
sites,
we
will
need
permission
for
access
on
these
canals.
So
that
would
be
a
large
part
of
what
we
do
in
that
task
is
to
try
to
figure
out.
N
I
Mr,
chairman
I'll,
just
ask
you
the
timeline
for
this.
We
can
get
a
consultant
on
the
board
here
fairly
quickly.
We
would
try
to
work
through
a
lot
of
that
stuff
this
year
with
the
intent
to
actually
complete
measurements
and
acquire
a
lot
of
that
information
in
the
2024
season.
So
we'll
have
this
year
to
kind
of,
or
this
late
summer
into
fall
to
get
that
nailed
down
on
where
exactly
we
want
to
go
with
the
measurements.
O
Sure
Mr
chair
the
the
Rollins
water
master
plan
was
also
a
project
that
was
amended
in
by
select
water
prior
to
prior
to
this
year,
and
we
are
proceeding
forward,
have
a
request
for
proposal
out
on
the
street.
We've
shortlisted
two
consulting
firms
that
will
be
submitting
written
proposals
on
that
and
I
believe
we're
looking
at
the
21st
for
accepting
written
proposals.
So.
D
Okay
and
just
to
follow
up
Mr
chair
one
last
thing
as
George
has
mentioned:
new
we
are
rfps,
have
built
out
on
these
projects
and
what
their
shortlisting
process
rfps
went
out
to
four
firms
on
each
project
and
we're
expecting
those
proposals
next
Monday
and
then
and
I
will
mention
that
our
project
managers
did
due
diligence.
They
actually
had
pre-proposal
meetings
with
all
the
consultants
and
so
forth.
So
we'll
have
those
proposals.
Next
Monday
those
will
get
bundled
up
sent
out
to
our
selection
teams.
D
They'll
have
about
three
weeks
to
come
up
with
rankings
of
the
proposals
and
then
interviews
will
be
held
in
our
office.
Friday
April
21st
such
that
we're
all
bringing
this
home
such
that
at
your
May
commissions.
Like
water
joint
meeting,
we
will
have
a
consultant
selected
and
then
be
asking
for
approval
for
a
contract.
Okay,
thank.
B
You
Mr,
okay,
I,
think
we're
ready
to
move
on
planning
projects
Amendment
a
director
Mead.
I
You
want
to
take
chairman
if
you're,
following
along
in
your
e-notebook,
that
we
provided,
we
now
be
on
Tab
a
if
you're.
Looking
on
that
left
hand,
side,
there's
typically
a
bookmarks
icon
that
you
can.
Click
on
and
it'll
show
the
different
Tab
and
then
you
know,
but
I'll
start
walking
through
that.
So
this
is
the
amendment
number
two
to
The,
Alkali
Creek,
Reservoir
final
design,
and
this
was
a
project
that
we
brought
to
the
Commission
in
the
selected
water
committee.
I
Back
in
this
at
the
November
meeting,
explaining
that
you
know
the
Project's
been
prolonged,
somewhat,
we've
had
issues
with
landowners
changes
over
the
years
of
NEPA
and
now
the
design
work.
I
Some
of
the
preliminary
design
work
where
the
easements
and
land
acquisition
has
become
a
little
more
cumbersome
because
we
have
new
landowners
moving
into
the
valley,
and
so
that's
growing
out
that
particular
process
and
then
needed
potential
modifications
to
the
supply
Canal
to
get
water
into
the
reservoir
and
alleviating
some
of
the
concerns
with
the
land,
the
new
landowners
and
possibly
needing
to
go
to
a
pipe
instead
of
modifications
to
the
ditch
and
and
then
in
addition
to
that,
some
of
the
previous
geotechnical
work
showed
a
fairly
weak
foundation,
so
it
changed
the
design
or
that
the
type
of
dam
and
with
that
we've
got
different
borrow
areas
and
some
additional
geotechnical
investigation.
I
That
needs
to
be
done
so
with
that.
In
this
amendment,
we
are
asking
for
an
extension
of
time
to
December
31st
of
2024
to
the
contract
and
then
an
additional
494
000,
and
this
was
also
part
of
the
Omnibus
planning
bill
that
was
considered
back
in
the
December
meeting
for
the
select
water
committee
and
then
obviously
throughout
the
legislative
process.
So
if.
I
Questions
that
happy
to
answer
them.
Otherwise
it
asks
for
your
favorable
recommendation
and
for
some
of
the
new
members-
and
maybe
chairman
could
explain
this
more
if
I,
if
I
don't
do
well
but
I,
think
the
role
of
the
select
water
committee
to
projects
that
the
water
development
commissions
bring
forward
specifically
to
project
Center
or
contracts
or
agreements
that
are
five
thousand
dollars
or
more.
The
select
water,
Community
role
would
be
to
review
and
recommend
those
projects
either
favorably
or
unfavorably
to
the
water
development
Commission.
G
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
and
and
I
am
new
to
this
process,
but
I
did
review
the
information
and
it
looked
like
there's
been
lots
of
I,
don't
know,
maybe
it's
extensions
or
it
seems
like
there's,
been
lots
of
money
thrown
into
the
planning
part
of
this
process.
So
can
you
give
me
a
a
little
history
and
are
we
just
continuing
to
escalate
the
price
or
is
there
an
in-game
on
this
thing?
Yeah.
B
Let
me
respond
a
little
bit.
First,
some
of
the
history
Alkali
Creek
is
above
War
Portland,
it's
a
supplementary
water
source
to
the
irrigators
in
that
region
and
as
we
got
into
it,
we
had
underestimated
what
the
it's,
basically
a
new
Reservoir
supplementary
Dam
and
as
we
got
into
it,
we
found
the
geology
was
such
that
it
was
going
to
cost
more
than
we
expected
it
to
cost.
So
that's
part
of
what
representative
Summers
is
probably
talking
about.
B
We
do
have
an
end
game
and
that
this
will
be
completed,
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
what
the
the
date
will
be,
but
it
has
been
an
involved
process
that
will
be
greatly
beneficial
to
the
people
above
in
that
irrigation
area,
so
I
throw
that
in
and
and
if
the
director
has
anything
to
add
on.
I
Mr,
chairman
would
be
we
have
an
appropriation,
so
this
is
a
reservoir
of
about
nine
thousand
eight
cookies.
Now,
as
it
sits,
the
NEPA
has
been
completed
Eis
several
years
ago.
We've
got
all
the
prints
in
place
from
the
Bureau
of
Land
Management,
as
well
as
Corps
of
Engineers
and
Wyoming
geq,
so
ready
to
move
forward.
The
design
work's
been
being
completed
again
with
some
of
the
caveats
that
I
mentioned
in
regards
to
the
the
amendment
that
we're
requesting
the
appropriation
right
now
is
59
million
for
this
project.
I
We
know
that's
not
going
to
be
enough.
One
related
to
some
of
the
geotechnical
complexities
that
we've
uncovered
and
the
design
changes
associated
with
that.
But
then
also
again
with
everything
we've
been
hearing.
I
Any
construction
project
we're
talking
about
with
the
inflation
of
cost
of
material
and
everything
else
so
fully,
anticipating
needing
to
come
back
next
year
for
additional
funding
for
construction
right
now,
at
least
during
the
session,
we
were
having
some
of
those
discussions
and
I.
Don't
have
a
firm
number
right
now,
but
I'm
guessing
it'll
be
in
an
additional
25
million
or
thereabouts
to
get
to
the
final
opinion
of
construction
cost.
B
F
Yeah
Mr
Vice,
chair
Jason,
I
noticed
when
we
had
the
original
budget.
We
had
a
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
in
there
for
other
tasks.
Have
we
have
we
used
any
of
that
money
for
this?
The
work
that
you're
asking
for
now
or
we
it
was
that's
110
still
there
Mr.
I
Chairman,
that's
a
portion
of
what
they
considered.
They
would
need
for
to
complete
the
additional
work,
so
that
was
part
of
the
they
494
000.
Originally,
we
used
about
55
000
of
that
to
go
through
and
work
with
the
sponsor
to
apply
for
some
of
the
new
bio
funds
under
the
small
surface
and
groundwater
storage
or
smaller
groundwater.
I
However,
that's
said
program,
and
so
some
of
that's
been
spent
given
that,
but
that
discretionary
task
was
also
considered
as
part
of
what
would
be
available
to
get
through
the
work
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
could
fit
it
out
and
construct
it
all.
L
Chairman
yeah
Senator
Guru
here,
oh
Senator,
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
It
kind
of
through
you
Mr
chairman,
Jason
kind
of
tag
on
to
the
speaker's
question.
It
really
helped
me
when
we
delay
when
we
moved
to
delay
these
projects
I'd
like
to
see
you
know
how
many
times
have
we
delayed
them
before,
and
what
are
the
reasons
why?
L
Because
it
does
in
my
two
years
here
it
does
seem
like
I
hear
you
know
we
we
delay
a
project
say
wow,
yeah
I
haven't
got
the
easements
quite
right
or
we
don't
have
all
the
you
know
the
level
two
or
three
studies
are
finished
yet
so
just
a
little.
You
know
blurp
on
that,
each
time
we
go
through
those
just
so
we
can
take
a
look
because
some
of
them
seem
to
be
delayed
quite
often
and
I
just
kind
of
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
that
myself.
J
You
Mr
chairman,
I,
think
they're.
Maybe
other
people
are
getting
calls
from
landowners
that
are
new.
Obviously
on
easements
and
I.
Guess,
that's
probably
a
big
topic.
J
Is
there
discussion
about
trying
to
pipe
through
their
areas
or
or
or
what
are?
What
are
we
considering
and
I
wouldn't
mind
if
you,
if
you
visit
with
these
people,
I
wouldn't
mind
being
a
part
of
that.
I
Mr,
chairman
Senator
Larson,
some
of
those
discussions
have
been
typing
or
really
thinking
through.
How
can
we
alleviate
some
of
the
concerns
of
these
new
landowners
and
that
has
led
to
some
alternatives
to
pipe
that
also
comes
back
to
the
Rock.
Creek
is
on
the
319
or
the
303
D
list
for
impaired
Waters,
so
that
I
think
that
would
potentially
help
with
that.
I
So
we're
looking
a
number
of
different
options
and,
of
course,
piping
increases
the
cost
of
construction
because
they're
fairly
large
pipe
and
three
to
four
miles
of
that
fairly
large
pipe,
instead
of
just
enlarging
a
ditch
and
so
looking
at
funding
funding
sources
that
could
then
alleviate
some
of
the
funds
that
would
be
needed
to
take
offers
to
to
take
care
of
those
increases
in
costs
by
switching
the
pipe
or
also
being
looked
at
either
through,
say
the
Clean
Water
srf
program
or
other
Federal
programs,
and
sometimes
so
we're
working
through
that
and
trying
to
figure
out.
I
What's
going
to
be
the
best
option.
Moving
forward,
there's
been
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
and
some
landowners
just
are
having
a
hard
time.
I
think
understanding
the
benefits
of
the
project
to
themselves
and
see
maybe
more
of
the
impacts
to
their
particular
operation
and
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
to
help
them
understand
we're
here
to
try
to
improve
their
operation
or
at
least
not
harm
it
whatsoever
and
we're
you
know
committed
to
working
with
them
as
much
as
we
can.
So
it's
just
been
a
challenge.
I
J
P
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
This
is
a
general
question.
Obviously,
I'm
new
and
I
probably
can
only
claim
this
statement
a
couple
times
before.
I'm,
not
new.
This
question
about
the
cost
of
this
thing.
I
mean:
do
we
just
hang
on
to
this
and
it
is
multiples
more
than
it
was
first
estimated.
P
Is
there
any
point
that
we
stop
when
we
don't
do
projects
like
this
I
guess,
I
just
don't
know
the
value
of
this
thing,
especially
when
it's
escalated
so
much,
and
so
obviously
it's
hard
for
me
to
make
any
decision
about
a
change
order
without
understanding,
I
I
know,
I,
don't
know
the
background
as
well
as
most
folks
here
probably
do.
But
this
is
a
lot
there's
a
lot
more
than
it
started
so
I
guess
just
in
a
nutshell,
is
this
thing
worth
worth
the
money?
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I,.
B
Would
respond
a
little
bit
to
that
Senator?
So
when
we
started
this
project,
we
realized
this
was
an
area
where
they
can
grow
just
about
any
crops
grown
in
Wyoming.
They
were
growing.
These
crops
always
short
on
water
toward
the
end
of
the
summer.
B
Whatever
it
was
sugar
beets
or
corn,
or
whatever
it
was,
they
were
growing.
They
usually
had
reduced
yields
because
of
these
water
shortages.
B
The
other
thing
that
goes
into
it
as
you
you
go
into
any
of
these
projects,
depending
on
the
amount
of
Permitting
and
and
other
things
you
have
to
do.
It's
gonna
probably
cost
more
than
you
expected.
B
We
had
no
idea
what
the
inflationary
problems
would
be
and
until
you
get
into
the
actual
nuts
and
bolts
of
it,
I
don't
think
you
know
what
the
what
the
real
geology
is,
because
this
reservoirs
I
don't
know
it's
like
half
a
mile
away
from
the
main
reservoir
I
would
guess,
history
I
know,
but
the
the
existing
one
that's
their
way
anyway.
The
geology
is
entirely
different
on
this
one
than
it
was
on
that
one
is
what
I
recall,
so
we
did
get
into
more
I
I.
B
Think
at
this
point
you
just
really
can't
pull
the
plug
we've
committed
ourselves
and
and
spent
quite
a
bit
of
money.
I,
don't
know
what
we've
got
tied
up
in
it,
but
it's
good
many
millions
of
dollars,
so
that's
kind
of
how
we
do
it,
I
think
and
we'll
probably
continue
to
do
in
in
other
Reservoir
projects
that
around
the
state.
If.
I
I
could
just
add,
you
know,
question
two.
We
recently
updated
the
economics
associated
with
some
of
the
applications
to
Federal
programs
and
with
the
direct
irrigation
benefits
and
indirect
benefits.
I
Recreation
in
a
small
portion
of
the
construction
benefits
we're
estimating
that
the
value
of
the
project
or
Works
lifespan
will
be
around
140
million
dollars,
so
that's
significantly,
probably
closer
to
a
one
and
a
half
to
one
benefit:
cost
ratio,
as
you
probably
know
anything
over
a
benefit
cost
ratio
of
1.0
is
shows
a
value
where
the
benefits
of
a
viper
project
was
obviously
outweighs
the
cost.
So
I
think
we.
I
This
is
still
here
the
great
project
to
move
forward
with
and
provides
drought
resiliency
to
that
District,
as
well
as
that
Community,
because
most
communities
in
Wyoming
are
AG
based
and
without
the
AG
being
there.
The
community
is
essentially
a
great
way,
eventually,
two
or
seven.
So
do
you
think
it's
a
worthwhile
project
to
continue
to
work
with.
C
You,
sir,
just
a
quick
question
and
I
do
not
need
to
make
more
work
for
Mr
Mead,
but
is
it
possible
to
get
these
projects
on
some
sort
of
a
spreadsheet
that
denotes
the
project?
The
short
title
cost
allocated
cost
spent
and
just
as
important
as
we
talked
about
earlier,
which
I
think
dovetails
into
what
Senator
Greer
has
talked
about
the
estimated
completion
date.
So
we
can
have
a
better
I
guess.
Visual
of
what
these
projects
are
timing
costs
Etc
will
help
me
greatly.
I
Mr,
chairman
representative
conrader,
he's
specifically
talking
about
Damon
Reservoir
projects.
Yes,
sir,
we
do
have
something
online
right
now,
under
the
diamond
Reservoir
link
on
our
webpage.
It's
is
updated
as
candy
right
now,
there's
oh
I,
think
two
or
three
maybe
four
projects
that
the
cost
estimates
have
been
updated
in
the
fairly
recent
past.
The
majority
of
the
other
ones
are
slightly
outdated,
we'll
just
come
along
as
the
planning
continues
forward,
and
that
document
provides
what
provides
an
explanation
in
the
note
at
the
bottom
of
the
kind
of
spreadsheet.
I
That
says,
you
know
here's
what
happens
in
a
level
one
or
level
two
phase,
one
level,
two
phase,
two
kind
of
the
process
you
go
through
to
get
to
the
construction
of
a
reservoir
and
then
in
the
table
itself
for
each
project.
It
states
where,
in
that
process
that
particular
project
is
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
pinpoint
a
certain
year
or
date,
especially
in
the
planning
level
of
analysis
when
that
project
could
be
constructed.
I
F
Yeah,
it
might
be
helpful
Jason
if
you
guys,
could
send
your
annual
water
update
the
supply
to
the
entire
legislators
and
just
send
that
out
to
because
it's
it's
an
annual
report.
Water,
but
water
development
does
and
just
make
sure
that
everybody
on
select
water
committee
gets
a
copy
of
that.
I
think
you'll
find
most
of
the
information
you
need
in
that
report.
It's
pretty
extensive.
So
if
Jason
you
could
just
follow
up
with
that,
it
would
be
helpful
sure.
I
Mr
chairman,
we
will
follow
up
that,
but
in
the
future,
if
you
see
an
email
come
across
called
the
water
development
commission
legislative
report,
that's
what
Senator
Hicks
has
referring
to
a
copy
of
that
one
out
to
the
entire
legislature
at
the
beginning
of
the
session
or
should
have
who
I
believe
that,
but
we'll
we'll
sure
resend
that
to
this
like
water
treatment
members
thank.
C
B
Hey
any
other
questions,
I
guess
something.
I
would
add.
I
started
on
this
committee
about
12
years
ago,
and
and
we
were
just
beginning-
the
expansion
of
the
Big
Sandy
Dam
and
we're
just
now
completing
it
or
getting.
There
is
what
I
understand
Mr.
I
Chairman,
it
should
be
complete
this
summer
sometime.
B
J
B
B
So
we're
going
to
be
working
on
2023
level,
one
and
two
planning
project
contracts,
Mr
Mead,
when
you're
ready
you
start
in
and
what
we'll
do
committee
I
think
is
we'll
work
on
each
one
and
then
vote
on
them
as
a
block
individually
in
case
any
get
pulled
out
or
any
or
anything's
questionable.
But
we'll
just
do
each
one
as
a
block.
So
we'll
do
level
one
projects.
First,
Mr
Mead,
when
you're
ready
go
ahead.
So.
I
Mr
chairman
the
we
should
be
able
to
see
our
screen
now
as
a
summary
table.
Can
everybody
see
that
yeah,
so
instead
of
walking
through
each
individual
on
track,
because
they're
very
repetitive
when
it
gets
to
the
boilerplate
language,
will
attempt
to
go
through
them
in
that
with
this
summary
table
and
again
these
are
projects.
All
these
planning
projects
came
through
the
water
development
process.
Last
year,
I
realized
we
have
some
new
Swift
water
committee
members,
but
applications
or
planning
projects
are
due
March
1.
I
So
we
actually
just
received
planning
project
application
for
this
next
year
here
within
the
last
couple
weeks
and
at
our
May
meeting,
which
coming
up
we'll
be
discussing
and
have
project
sponsors
available
to
answer,
questions
and
recommendations
put
together
on
funding
those
different
planning
projects
at
that
may
meeting,
so
the
projects
you're
seeing
on
the
screen
right
now
have
all
gone
through
that
process.
Last
March,
when
we
received
applications
and
last
May
with
the
water
development
commission
and
the
select
water
committee
and
then
again
at
the
November
meeting.
I
We
actually
discussed
these
again
in
the
context
of
also
having
the
construction
projects
that
at
that
point,
because
on
September
1
we
is
the
application
deadline.
Of
course,
construction
project
application,
so
they've
been
vetted
pretty
heavily
and
again
once
they
went
through
the
Commission
in
the
select
water
committee
reviews
and
of
course
they
were
put
into
the
Omnibus
water
bill.
Planning
and
I
went
through
both
Committees
of
agricultural
committee
and
Appropriations
Committee
and,
of
course,
all
the
discussion
on
the
floor.
I
So
this
is
what
has
culminated
from
the
Omnibus
water
planning
bill
if
you
want
to
follow
along
in
the
notebook
and
actually
look
at
Contra
access
and
be
on
Tab
B.
The
first
block
here
in
the
summary
table
is
for
new
development
account
one,
and
these
are
level
one
projects
as
you'll
see.
There's
five
of
them,
they're
all
master
plans.
Master
plan
is
really
just
a
holistic
look
at
a
in
this
case.
Municipalities
or
you
know,
water,
Improvement,
districts
and
things
of
that
nature.
I
Look
at
their
system
understand
what
kind
of
condition
it's
in
understand
if
there's
growth
and
what
the
future
projected
growth
looks
like
and
what
we
need
to
do
to
plan
for
that
or
what
that
Community
needs
to
do
to
plan
for
that
and.
I
Or
less
put
together
a
road
map
of
you
know,
what's
the
most
critical
or
most
important
structures
to
their
system
and
a
way
to
then
so,
then
would
say:
okay
well
now,
I
understand
what
what's
in
the
worst
condition,
what's
most
critical,
so
I'll
move
forward
with
either
additional
level
two
feasibility
studies
for
a
particular
component
of
that
master
plan.
I
If
it's
complex
enough
to
have
multiple
Alternatives
and
what's
going
to
be
the
best
investment
for
the
state
of
Wyoming
to
actually
go
to
construction
on
a
particular
project
or
sometimes
people,
they
can
jump
from
a
level
one
master
plan
to
construction,
sometimes
so
the
first
one
is
the
Glendo
and.
F
F
You've
got
level
one
level
two
level
three,
so
you've
got
three
different
accounts
and
then
you've
got
three
phases,
but
just
for
the
new
members,
while
you
got
this
chart
up
there,
could
you
go
through
that
process
that
everybody's
familiar
with
it.
D
Mr
chairman,
this
is
Barry
Lawrence,
W
director
for
planning,
sure,
happy
and
Senator
Hicks
happy
to
answer
that
question
and
inform
the
new
members
level.
One
projects
typically
would
be
reconnaissance
level,
100,
000
foot,
look
at
a
system
as
as
Jason's
just
mentioned,
typically
Master
plans
where
you're
looking
at
the
whole
system
kind
of,
like
you,
said
holistically
looking
at
it
looking
at
recommendations
for
future.
Looking
at
the
structures.
Looking
at
the
inventory
doing
some
mapping
coming
up
with
recommendations,
cost
estimates
and
a
prioritized
approach.
D
These
Master
plans
typically
it's
kind
of
like
the
Bible.
These
sponsors
come
to
us
and
they
like
those
that
that
look
and
they
work
the
projects
that
are
laid
in
there
with
with
priorities
and
so
forth.
They
look
at
those
and
they
go
back
to
that
list
and
they
go
and
work
off
that
list
for
the
next
10
years.
Sometimes
you'll
see,
and
sometimes
we
get
updates
where
they'll
come
back
10
years
later,
asking
for
an
update
to
a
medicinal
master
plan
or
an
Irrigation
District,
Master
Plan
so
typically
account
level.
D
Two
study
would
be
like
a
feasibility
where
we
we
drill
down
on
a
certain
certain
topic
and
no
pun
intended
there,
but
we're
looking
we're
going
through
the
24
000
foot
view,
for
instance,
and
we're
looking
at
a
certain,
maybe
a
structure
or
or
something
such
as
that,
and
where
we're
doing
a
feasibility
study
on
that
structure,
we're
looking
at
cost
estimates
and
Designs
conceptual
designs
and
so
forth.
D
So
it's
going
further
into
a
to
a
down
the
road
of
a
certain
structure
and
so
forth,
and
then,
with
the
ultimate
goal
coming
out
of
that
with
conceptual
designs,
cost
estimates
and
level
two
that
would
then
tee
up
for
a
level
three
construction
project,
the
level
three
is
construction,
and
so
we'll
do
a
level
one
on
level,
two
level
three
and
per
statute.
Typically,
projects
will
advance
from
level
one
two
and
three
and
at
level
two
is
we're.
D
Coming
out
of
level
two
her
statute,
the
commission
is
asked
to
make
a
decision,
a
determination
on
the
merits
of
this
project,
whether
it's
an
advances
or
to
determinate
further
consideration
of
the
project,
and
we
do
that
through
our
close-up,
memos,
that's
meetings
and
then
they
get
into
level
three
and
let's
speed
up
based
on
those
Concepts
that
we
come
up
from
the
level
two
conceptual
designs
and
it
is
possible
from
time
to
time
on
a
level
one.
Something
is
a
critical
nature.
D
Pertinence
are
something
that,
rather
than
spend
another
year
going
into
level
two
design
and
conceptual
design,
it
might
be
possible
to
flush
out
that
extra
little
piece
in
a
level
one
master
plan
such
it
can
kind
of
fast
track
it
to
level
three.
But
we
still
follow
the
process
to
put
the
statutes
and
do
hearings
and
so
forth
on
that.
But
anyway,
that's
level.
One.
I
Two
and
three
and
I
mentioned
account-
one
is
just
says:
name
implies
new
development.
So
a
lot
of
time
that
applies
to
Municipal
type
projects
account
two
is
our
Rehabilitation,
so
those
are
for
project
15
years
and
older
that
can
apply
to
both
Municipal
and
agricultural
projects,
but
a
lot
of
it's
mostly
AG
projects
that
you
see
that
in
and
then
account
three
which
I'll
talk
about.
I
So
if
we
start
with
a
level
one
a
lot
of
times,
it's
a
watershed
study
and
that's
really
looking
at
just
the
health
and
functionality
of
the
Watershed
and
all
the
different
components
of
the
Watershed
sitting,
down
with
landowners
who
want
to
sit
down
and
talk
through
potential
small
water
type
projects
and
get
some
of
those
kind
of
conceptually
drawn
up,
and
it
also
really
just
adds
to
getting
the
group
of
landowners
in
a
community
kind
of
starting
to
be
organized
because,
as
you
get
into
the
NEPA
process,
being
organized
is
pretty
important
to
show
a
lot
of
support
for
a
project,
then,
in
for
our
dams
and
reservoirs,
again
account
three
level.
I
Two
we've
got
different
phases,
so
we
have
level
two
phase.
One
and
that's
really
where
we
do
a
lot
of
hydrologic
modeling
to
determine
do
we
have
you
know
most
times
we
have
sponsors
coming
to
us
because
they
have
irrigation
shortages
so
that
modeling
more
or
less
truce.
That
and
say
do
we
have
shortages.
We
look
at
I
won't
get
into
what
models
look
at,
but
they're,
they're,
very
in-depth
and
from
those
models
we
can
determine.
Yes,
there
are
irrigation
shortages
that
were
nor
there.
I
Isn't
and
where
there
might
be
available
water
with
a
present
day,
water
rate
to
be
able
to
store
water,
and
then
we
start
in
that
level.
Two
phase,
one
we
put
together
assuming
we
have
more
or
less
purpose
and
need
we
would
put
together.
The
consults
would
put
together
the
Alternatives
or
a
long
list
of
reservoir
Alternatives
and
then
compare
those
side
by
side
on
how
well
they
alleviate
shortages
and
what
all
the
different
impacts
associated
with
them
would
be.
I
You
know
if
you
were
to
take
them
through
NEPA
process
and
the
technical
feasibility
looking
at
geology
and
and
all
the
good
things
that
you
need
to
look
at
to
determine
if
a
reservoir
site
is
good
or
not
so
out
of
the
phase
one.
You
would
typically
come
out
of
that
with
a
preferred
alternative,
which
one
looks
to
be
the
best,
or
maybe
the
top
two
or
three,
and
then
then
that
level,
two
phase,
two
project
we
actually
go
out
and
do
field
work.
I
I
So
then
we
would
go
out,
we
would
do
geotechnical
drilling
to
get
a
better
understanding,
at
least
initially
of
what
the
foundation
of
that
Dam
looks
like
also.
We
would
ground,
through
some
of
the
wetlands,
from
the
national
Wetland
inventory
on
the
ground
to
make
sure
that,
yes,
it
says
three
acres
in
the
National
Wetland
inventory.
I
You
know
that's
about
three
acres
or
no
that's
25
acres
or
what
have
you
might
also
do
some
cultural
work
in
the
level
two
phase
two
and
that
just
continually
refines
the
information
to
make
sure
that
we
still
think
that's
the
best
project
moving
forward,
then
a
level
two
phase
three
would
be
where
we
actually
get
into
the
permitting
and
design.
And
you
know
you
go
through
the
Nepal
process,
most
large
reservoirs,
if
it's
not
a
reconstruction
like
Chase
is
talking
about
with
laprel,
are
going
to
be
an
environmental
impact
statement.
I
So
you
go
through
that
again
hiring
third-party
NEPA
contractors.
It's
got
to
be
an
independent,
unbiased
contractor
for
an
Eis.
We
federal
agencies
being
involved
in
kind
of
overseeing
the
work
with
the
state
swimming
court
and
the
state
and
the
sponsors,
and
then
you
know
the
design
work
is
under
level
two
phase
three
and
then,
when
you
get
to
construction,
that's
level
three,
so
it
might
have
been
more
than
what
you
wanted.
I
P
B
B
Okay,
we
got
two
people
speaking
representing
Summers.
Were
you
one
of
them.
G
Question
is,
and
and
I
appreciate
that
information
it
follows
most
construction
that
state
does
really
level
one
level,
two,
what
I
don't
know
on
your
level,
one
projects
or
your
level
two
projects
and
I
don't
need
a
hard
and
fast
number,
but
a
percentage.
So
of
these,
let's
say
the
level
one
projects,
new
development,
how
many
acts,
how
many
actually
applied
and
then
how
many
are
we
proceeding
with
so
is:
what's
what's
that
number
look
like
so
obviously
level?
Two
as
well.
G
Was
there
some
level,
two
projects
that
that
weren't
that
didn't
meet
Muster
that
are
not
coming
forward?
I'm,
just
curious
on
on
that.
D
Mr
chairman,
very
large
water
development
and
representative
Summers,
let
me
tell
you
that
we
received
16
applications
for
planning
studies.
D
This
is
the
22
2022
projects
that
director
made
referred
to
that
came
in
last
March
1
of
those
16
all
16
are
in
the
planning
Bill
we
didn't
have
any
withdrew,
or
none
that
we've
determined
that
we're
ineligible
and
so
they're
budgeted
for
I
will
tell
you
that
over
the
years
in
the
last
five
years,
I'm
only
aware
of
one
time
where
we
had
the
city
of
Casper
come
in
on
a
water
treatment
issue
and
of
course
we
don't
pay
for
treatment,
water
treatment.
D
And
as
representative
Ecklund
has
mentioned,
those
are
paid
for
100
percent
by
the
by
the
state,
less
a
1
000
application
fee
and
then
also
there's
a
small
reimbursement
fee
that
went
into
effect
last
year.
And
it's
one
two
or
three
thousand
dollars,
depending
on
the
number
of
TAPS
on
water
users
and
so
forth,
or
the
number
of
Acres
irrigated
Acres.
I
Mr,
chairman
Ed,
and
what
Mary
said
too,
when
we
have
sponsors
or
really
anybody
throughout
the
state
that
has
a
question
or
thinks
they
need
a
study.
They'll
typically
call
us
and
we
hope
them
understand
the
program
and
what
can
fit
in
our
program.
What
can't
fit
in
our
program.
So
by
the
time
they
submit
an
application.
I
B
Okay,
representative
Summers,
that
answer
your
questions,
all
right,
I
think
was
it
Senator
Guru?
Are
you?
Did
you
have
a
question
as
well
someone
else
piped
up,
Mr
chairman
go
ahead.
F
I
Mr
chairman,
there
were
a
few
that
it
was
mostly
construction
projects
that
came
in
where
we
talked
with
and
they
were
Municipal
projects.
We
talked
with
the
sponsors
and
a
lot
of
times
those
move
along
a
little
slower
because
of
the
easements.
I
You
have
to
get
and
there's
more
stuff
in
the
way,
more
or
less
and
different
a
lot
more
landowners
to
deal
with
on
easements,
and
so
what
we
suggested
to
those
construction
projects
is
that
we
phased
them,
and
we've
done
this
in
the
past,
where
we
provide
funding
for
the
design
and
pre-construction
work,
get
easements
in
place
and
all
that
stuff
and
then
actually
they'll
come
back
for
construction
dollars
in
say
next
year's
application.
I
So
there
were
handfuls
all
right
three
of
those
that
we
did
that,
and
then
there
were
a
number
of
construction
projects
that
asked
for
additional
funding.
But
with
the
funding
what
we
had
available,
we
said
we're
going
to
fund
some
of
you.
If
you
had
your
your
approval
from
us
that
you
were
more
or
less
shovel
ready
and
ready
to
go
to
bid
by
September
one
of
last
year,
then
we
funded
it.
I
But
there
were
a
number
of
them
that
had
various
things:
they
weren't
quite
ready
to
go
to
construction,
so
we
wanted
to
incentivize
them
getting
that
stuff
done,
and
so
we
put
some
money
into
the
sponsor
contingency
funds
for
both
account
one
and
account
two
and
said
when
you're
ready
come
back
for
that
funding
and
then
the
Commission
in
the
select
water
committee
will
consider
that
and
if
it
makes
sense,
we
can
report
at
that
time.
B
B
Noah
there
you
are
Abby
and
Senator
Peru
I,
don't
know
how
to
you
can
say
just
say
there
you
are
now
we
got
everybody's
picture
there
is
that
that
motion
passes
okay,
we're
ready
for
the
next
block
of
projects,
level,
two
projects,
new
development,
that
being
tab,
C
go
ahead.
I.
B
So,
okay,
all
right
I
guess
we
we're
good,
then
we're
ready
for
the
small
water
project
program,
funding
applications
Jody
when
you're
ready,
that'd
be
cap,
tab
f,.
I
B
G
Apologies
I'm
always
full
of
questions.
So
as
we
go
into
the
small
water
project,
part
of
this
discussion-
one
you
know,
just
as
the
presenter
presents
explain,
kind
of
the
process
and
and
then
how
you
know
these
this
list
of
projects
has
it
already
been
chosen
by
another
another
select
committee
and
then
we're
just
finalizing
this.
That's
one
thing
I'd
want
to
know,
and
then
the
other
is.
How
does
how
are
and
I'll
just
be
honest?
How
are
different
side
sides
of
the
state
equalized
in
in
these
in
these
projects?
So
I'm
just
curious.
G
If
there's,
if
it's
just
all,
applicants
get
funded
or
if
there's
actually
some
rigor
in
how
you
decide
who
gets
money
when.
B
Mr
Speaker
I
I'll
respond
to
a
little
of
that
and
that's
the
history
of
the
small
water
projects.
It's
been
a
real
popular
program
in
the
state
of
Wyoming
by
the
water
development
commission,
as
well
as
select
water,
we're
able
to
develop
things
without
the
full-blown
Eis
or
or
es
or
or
any
of
of
those
NEPA
evaluations,
different
things,
they're,
usually
not
as
expensive
to
to
put
in
and
we're
able
to
get
quite
a
bit
of
work
done
on
the
ground
and-
and
so
it's
been
a
popular
program
in
that
respect.
So.
G
Mr,
chairman
I,
totally
agree:
I
I
mean
I've,
been
a
beneficiary
of
a
small
of
a
of
a
small
water
project
on
a
on
a
on
a
ditch.
But
my
question
is
this
list:
is
this
list
already
been
decided
and
we're
finalizing
and
then
is
every
project?
That's
brought
forward
funded
or
is
there
some
way
that
that
the
merits
of
the
projects
are
fared
it
out?
I
Mr,
chairman
representative
Summers,
we
can
have
Jody
pavlica
administer
that
program.
Talk
to
that
Jimmy.
Q
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
that's
a
good
question
and
it's
one
that
I
spend
a
great
deal
of
time,
addressing
if
you've
ever
heard
my
small
water
101
presentation,
and
that,
as
most
of
you
are
well
aware,
that
this
program
sort
of
hangs
on
the
Constitutional
requirement
that
public
benefit
be
provided
as
a
result
of
each
one
of
these
projects.
And
so
we
take
that
responsibility
very
seriously
here
in
the
office
and
applications
are
due
from
sponsoring
entities
on
November
15th,
and
then
we
begin
the
process.
Q
When
I
say
we
I
say
myself
and
Mabel
Jones
here
in
the
office
begin
the
process
of
going
through
each
one
of
the
applications
to
make
sure
number
one
that
it
meets
the
requirements
of
the
criteria.
But
in
addition
to
that,
it
has
to
also
have
enough
public
benefit
to
the
project
that
that
it
makes
that
constitutional
requirement
as
well.
So
then
those
projects
all
get
considered
and
and
prepared
you'll
you'll
notice,
the
one
two
three
fourth
column
over
talks
about
priority.
Our
criteria
has
a
priority
system
in
it.
Q
As
far
as
what
type
of
project
and
what
sort
of
numerical
priority
that
that
project
receives
based
on
its
project
type
and
then
we
will
look
at
funding
those
projects
based
on
their
priority
and
the
funding
that's
available.
So
I'll
back
up
and
and
run
through
the
timeline
for
you.
The
applications
will
come
in
November
15th
and
then
in
December
November
December
timeline.
Q
We
will
prepare
a
recommendation
for
the
select
water
committee
for
anticipated
funding,
request
for
the
small
water
project
program
and
and
because
of
the
popularity
of
this
program
we
have
recently
in
the
last
five
years,
set
a
number
we're
going
to
ask
for
this,
and
we're
going
to
ask
for
you
know
for
account
one
and
account
for
this
in
account
two,
so
that
we
don't.
The
program
doesn't
grow
beyond
the
committee's
intention.
Q
So
that's
typically
a
million
dollars
in
account
one
and
five
hundred
thousand
in
account
too,
and
so
we'll
put
those
recommendations
together
in
the
fall
as
needed,
and
then
we'll
get
the
applications
in
November
15th
and
then
we'll
compare
how
much
money
do
we
have
left
over
in
the
small
order
accounts
to
roll
over
into
the
new
funding,
plus
the
new
requests
that
we
get
and
can
we
fund
everything
or
is
there
not
enough
funding
to
go
around
and
that's
only
happened
a
couple
of
times
in
the
event
that
there
was
not
enough
funding
to
go
around
the
criteria,
states
that
we
will
cut
it
off
in
a
whole
category?
Q
So
that's
how
we
would
handle
it
should
that
need
arise,
but
it
doesn't
come
up
too
terribly
often,
we
have
been
pretty
fortunate
that
the
sponsors
do
a
good
job
of
estimating
the
total
project
costs
and
and
regularly
there
is
money
returned
to
the
small
water
accounts
that
is,
is
not
required
because
of
in-kind
services
and
other
matching
funds
and
grants,
and
so
when
money
is
returned
because
they
don't
spend
it
all
on
a
project
that
money
then
rolls
over
to
allow
us
to
use
it
on
another
project.
Q
So
we
have
been
pretty
fortunate
in
that
we
have
been
able
to
fund
everything.
Typically
in
this,
in
this
case,
I
mean
not
every
case.
Obviously,
we've
had
to
limit
once
or
twice,
but
we're
typically
able
to
fund
what
comes
in
this
year.
We
had
68
applications
with
one
that
withdrew
and
I
think
that
one
they
probably
took
a
look
at
the
funding
that
just
got
a
little
bit
more
expensive
and
then
they
went
through
the
application
from
consideration.
So
did
that
address?
The
question
did
I
miss
anything
there.
G
Yo,
thank
you
that
that
helped.
You
know
the
this
list
has.
My
question
still
is:
has
this
list
already
been
vetted
by
the
select
committee
and
we
are
just
doing
the
final
stamp
on
it
or
is
this
the
first
look
at
this
list
that
a
select
committee
is
is
had
and,
and
then
I
do
appreciate.
So
ultimately,
if
you're
a
good
grant
writer
you
get
funded,
that's
that's
what
I
heard
out
of
your
explanation.
So
I
can't
remember.
G
I,
can't
remember
the
exact
proposal
in
here,
but
and
the
reason
that
you
know
I'm
a
Rancher
and
I
get
it,
but
I
saw
a
well
project
for
on
I
think
it
was
less
than
2
000
Acres,
a
pasture
of
less
than
2
000
Acres.
That's
great
I
mean
I'd
love
to
have
lots
of
water
projects
on
my
Ranch
and
they're
all
going
to
benefit
Wildlife.
G
The
question
is:
is
it
just
because
nobody
knows
that
this
program
exists
out
there
or
why
why
I
I
just
found
it
interesting
that
there
was
a
well
that's
in
this
project,
that's
permitted
on
on
2000,
Acres
or
less
pasture.
It
was
just
a
surprise
to
me
so
I
guess
it's
just
simply:
whatever
projects
come
in
you
fund
as
long
as
they
meet
the
criteria
and
they're
within
the
rankings.
That's
that's
what
I,
what
I
gather,
but
my
my
other
primary
question.
Has
this
list
been
vetted
by
another
select
committee?
Q
You
guys
this
is
the
this
is
the
first
time
anyone
outside
of
this
office
has
seen
this
list
it.
It
takes
a
great
deal
of
time
for
us
to
get
everything
prepared
and
put
together
for
review,
so
so
it
has
not
been
through
another
committee.
At
this
point
and
the
way
we
have
customarily
operated
this
rather
than
consensus,
or
so
many
of
them,
rather
than
consider
each
of
these
projects
individually,
we
sort
of
look
at
them
because
of
their
small
size.
Q
We
sort
of
look
at
them
in
in
blocks
according
to
sponsor,
according
to
project
type
and
that
sort
of
thing
Jody.
J
I
P
Q
Thanks
Jason,
so
this
project
is
a
50
Grant
up
to
thirty
five
thousand
dollars,
so
you
can
come
in
for
a
million
dollar
project
if
you
decide
to,
but
that
only
gets
you
a
thirty
five
thousand
dollar
Grant.
Then
me
I'm
having
it
one
issue
here,
but
but
our
grant
tops
out
at
thirty
five
thousand
dollars.
Q
There
are
regularly
additional
funding
partners
with
this
program.
We
partner
very
well
whether
it
be
with
private
funding,
Partners
like
Ducks,
Unlimited
and
trout,
unlimited
and
those
guys
or
whether
it
be
fun.
Federal
funding
Partners
we
partner
with
a
lot
of
different
groups,
projects
that
are
eligible.
As
we
talked
about
a
little
bit
Wells.
We
do
a
lot
of
solar
platforms,
pipes
and
conveyance
Springs
Wetlands
environmental
projects,
which
specifically
speaks
to
stream
Bank
stability,
water
quality
improvements
or
erosion
protection.
I
Q
I
November
15th,
and
so
we
had
a
pretty
good
idea
of
the
general
number
of
applications
going
into
the
session
now
Jody's
had
a
chance
to
look
through
all
those
applications.
Work
with
the
different
sponsors
understand
the
public
benefit
that
they
put
forth
and
either
agreed
or
disagreed
with
those
and
has
put
together
this
list
for
your
guys's
consideration,
yeah
and
so
Jody.
If
you
want
to
maybe
walk
down
through
the
list
today
and.
B
Let
me
let
me
add
something
to
maybe
help
representative
Summers
on
one
of
his
questions,
the
well
on
a
couple
thousand
acres
and
office.
You
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
when
they
do
the
Watershed
studies,
they'll
oftentimes
fit
in
beneficial
water
sources,
and
what
have
you
and
Wells
would
be
part
of
that
study
and
so
that
more
than
likely
came
into
the
to
the
Watershed
study.
B
Q
Mr,
chairman
and
Jason,
and
one
other
thing
that
I
would
just
add
to
that-
is
it's
not
necessarily
fair
to
look
at
it
to
the
size
of
the
amount
of
property
that
the
landowner
has,
but
you
have
to
look
at
it
on
on
the
Watershed
scale,
so
to
say
that
this
guy
has
a
few
thousand
acres,
isn't
necessarily
giving
you
the
full
pictures,
because
by
putting
in
that
water
source,
you
are
going
to
repair
the
riparian
habitat
that
the
cattle
would
be
damaging
if
they
hadn't
had
that
tank
in
the
Uplands.
Q
And
so
when
that
riparian
habitat
comes
back,
then
you
are
reducing
erosion
on
the
stream
channel
and
you're
slowing
that
water
down.
So
it
doesn't
just
move
through
really
fast
in
the
spring,
but
it
slows
down
and
we've
heard
anecdotal
evidence
of
people
who've
come
back
years
later
and
said
this
used
to
be
an
ephemeral
drain
ninja.
Now
it's
a
year-round
live
stream
by
virtue
of
the
fact
that
the
wetlands
have
come
back,
that
the
Willows
have
come
back
and
it
slowed
the
movement
of
the
water
through.
Q
H
B
Okay,
representative
Summers
does
that
does
that
answer
the
questions
that
you
had
to
you
have
any
others
or
committee?
Do
you
have
any
others
Mr.
G
Chairman,
thank
you.
It
does
answer
my
question.
Just
the
old,
the
guy
that
was
on
Appropriations
for
me,
you
know
comes
back
at
me
and
I
look
at
a
series
of
projects
that
are
going
to
have
virtually
no
vetting
by
the
legislature,
because
we
just
adopt
this
I'm,
not
saying
they're,
not
all
good
projects.
G
I
just
didn't
know
the
process,
and
certainly
it
could
have
been
within
my
purview,
because
I
did
look
at
many
of
these
to
to
to
look
harder
and
ask
individual
questions
before
the
meeting,
but
that
would
have
took
some
doing
so.
No
I'm
I,
like
water
I,
like
small
water
projects,
I'm
going
to
vote
I,
but
I
I,
just
think
that
when
I
vet
something
I
try
to
vet
it
and
obviously
I'm
I'm
not
doing
a
very
good
job
so
far.
Well,.
B
F
We
got
if
I,
if
I
may,
I
can
maybe
help
so
there's
there's
numerous
steps
of
betting
through
this
process
and
the
first.
The
first
thing
is:
it
has
to
meet
the
criteria
and
it's
not
unusual
to
have
project
applicant
come
in
and
then
they
go
to
a
sponsor
which
we've
had
a
few
for
municipalities,
typically
their
conservation
districts.
F
The
next
series
in
the
process
and
vetting
goes
to
the
commission
or
goes
to
the
staff
and
and
Jody
oversees
the
program
she
reviews
that
makes
a
recommendation
back
to
her
superiors
and
they
put
a
list
together.
This
is
a
little
bit
unusual
today.
Usually
the
water
development
commission
reviews
all
these
projects
and
they
will
have
each
one
of
these
project
sponsors
it
will
come
either
online
or
and
and
the
the
commission
will
then
ask
individual
questions
on
these
projects
and
then
normally
it
comes
to
select
water
committee.
F
We
just
because
of
the
process,
got
a
little
screwed
up
this
year.
We're
seeing
this
before
the
commission.
The
commission
will
review
these
over
the
next
couple
of
days
and
then
the
normal
process
is
as
far
as
the
appropriation
goes.
F
Historically,
the
legislature
has
appropriated
a
set
amount
of
money
for
this
program,
typically
around
1.5
million
dollars
in
the
in
the
new
development,
and
then
a
million
dollars
in
the
rehab
account
and
then
they're
eligible.
Then
people
apply
for
these
fundings
and
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
application
process.
F
It's
an
application
and
I
would
tell
you
these
applications
are
not
they
don't
take
professional
grant
writers
by
any
means
which
you
tend
to
see
is
is
through
the
applications.
What
it
takes
more
than
I
would
say
than
a
grant
writer
which
I
don't
think
it
takes
a
grant
writer
at
all.
It
takes
the
engineering
and
then
the
technical
assistance
to
be
able
to
put
these
together
and
so
a
lot
of
times.
F
You
know
you're,
relying
upon
federal
agencies
to
provide
some
of
the
technical
assistance
in
some
places,
or
it's
more
difficult
to
work
with
forest
service
and
BLM.
You
don't
tend
to
see
as
many
applications
on
federal
lands
as
other
places
and
that's
another
area
within
the
ranking
process.
You
know
in
the
vetting
process
on
these
Federal
projects
that
come
through
that
has
to
go
all
the
way
through.
You
know
their
range
staff,
their
Wildlife
staff
and
then
actually
they'll
come
to
a
local,
Conservation
District
and
ask
to
sponsor
those
applications.
F
So
it's
a
long
process
to
get
one
of
these
funded,
but
specifically
the
legislature
usually
just
appropriates
a
a
block
of
money,
1.5
million
historically
a
new
development
and
a
million
dollars
in
rehab.
Then
it
goes
to
water
development
and
comes
back
to
select
water
after
those
Appropriations
that
come
in
man,
but
I
hope
that
helps.
Some
of
the
information
on
the
program
is
just
some
of
the
background
on
it.
J
Mr
chairman,
thank
you.
I
and
I
should
know
this.
Probably
how
do
we
verify
completion?
Is
it
pictures
or
do
we?
Is
the
office
go
and
look
at
every
project.
Q
Mr,
chairman
sure,
Larson.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
question.
I
wish
I
had
the
time
to
go
visit
every
one
of
these
projects,
but
unfortunately,
as
a
one-man
band,
it's
a
little
hard
to
get
out
and
clean
them
all.
So
we
do
have
several
requirements
to
sort
of
vet
these
before
we
make
a
payment
on
the
project.
Q
One
of
course
is
as
constructed
photos
and
the
other
and
probably
more
importantly,
are
signed
as
built
drawings
or
a
letter
from
a
federal
agency
that
says:
we've
inspected
the
project
and
it's
functioning
in
the
manner
that
it's
intended
and
so
that
signed
as
bills,
whether
it
be
from
the
engineer
or
the
federal
agency
or
the
letter
from
the
federal
agency
requires
that
they
then
have
to
inspect
the
project,
to
go
out
and
see
the
project
and
then,
as
a
neutral
third
party
report
back
to
us
that
the
project
is
functioning
in
in
the
manner
that
it
was
intended
to
function.
Q
So
that
that's
a
very
good
question.
Thank
you
for
asking.
Q
Absolutely
and
that
that's
a
good
point.
We
we
scrutinize
every
receipt
that
comes
in
and
weed
through
the
coolers
and
chewing
gum
and
it's
kind
of
a
long
process
on
some
of
these
in-kind
services.
But
but
we
do
only
pay
on
as
constructed
receipts
and
invoices,
and
so
that's
another
verification
as
well.
Mr.
G
Mr
chairman
you'll,
get
me
broke
to
lead
here.
Pretty
quick
I
got
one
more
question
and
that
is
I.
Think
Senator
Hicks
brought
up
a
good
point,
which
would
ease
my
mind.
A
lot
is
is
that
if
a
commission
right,
that's
kind
of
overseeing
the
agency,
actually
reviews
these
projects
prior
to
what
we
see
and
they
actually
go
through
each
one
and
they
vet
them
that
that
gives
me
a
lot
of
comfort
right.
That's
not
unlike
many
other
programs,
we
have
in
the
state
I
guess.
G
My
question
is:
if
that
didn't
happen,
this
time,
Why
didn't
it
happen,
because
I'm
I
kind
of
missed
that
or
I
didn't
hear
it,
and,
and
is
that
correct
that
the
commission
would
generally
pull
these
apart
and
and
and
hear
them
at
more
greater
detail
than
we
would
Mr.
I
But
it's
been
fairly
typical
that
the
select
water
committee
sees
these
I
think
before
the
commission
does
at
our
merch
meeting,
and
we
we
always
done
these
at
the
March
meeting.
Or
has
it
been
in
the
joint
meeting
at
best.
I
Because
of
the
end
of
the
session,
and
all
that,
so
we
can
think
about
that
for
future
meetings
and
small
water
applications
and
see
if
we
can't
figure
out
how
to
do
that
better,
but
and
your
guys's
role
as
review
and
recommendation
I
think
you're
the
first
line
in
recommending
to
the
commission
that,
yes,
we
like
these
projects,
therefore
commission
now
you
do
it
within
what
you
feel
like
you
should
do
with.
F
B
Okay,
so
we
need,
are
we
done
Jody
on
this.
B
Q
So
inclined
yeah,
okay,
so
we'll
begin
with
the
account
one
table
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
every
project
just
for
the
sake
of
time,
but
I'll
I'll
go
through
that
last
column
on
the
right
there,
and
if
we
look
at
the
the
individual,
Conservation
District
and
the
projects
that
they've
applied
for
so
the
Clear
Creek
Conservation
District
has
applied
for
one
project
for
a
total
Grant
request
of
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
the
hot
springs.
Q
Conservation
District
has
applied
for
five
projects
for
a
total
Grant
request
of
a
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars.
Laramie
County
Conservation
District
has
applied
for
eight
projects
for
a
total
Grant
request
of
two
hundred
and
forty
eight
thousand
dollars,
Laramie
Rivers,
Conservation,
District
and
and
I
guess,
I
should
slow
down.
This
is
account
one
we'll
go
through
account
two
projects
here
after
this,
so
the
Laramie
Rivers
Conservation
District,
has
one
account
one
project
for
a
total
of
thirty
five
thousand
dollars.
Q
Little
Snake
River,
Conservation
District
has
applied
for
19
account
one
projects
for
a
total
of
633
900
dollars.
Medicine
Bow
conservation
districts
has
applied
for
five
account
one
projects
for
a
grant
request
of
a
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars.
The
papaja
Conservation
District
has
applied
for
two
account
one
projects
for
a
total
of
sixty
six
thousand
dollars.
Sheridan
County
Conservation
District
has
applied
for
three
projects
for
a
account
one
Grant
request
of
a
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars.
The
Shoshone
Conservation
District
has
applied
for
two
account.
Q
One
projects
fragrant
request
of
sixty
three
thousand
two
hundred
and
fifty
dollars.
The
South
Bighorn
Conservation
District
has
applied
for
one
account
one
project
for
a
total
of
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
and
the
Sublette
County
Conservation
District
has
applied
for
two
account
one
projects
for
a
grant
of
seventy
thousand
dollars,
and
one
of
those
did
receive
a
shovel
ready
designation.
Q
So
that
is
account
one
totals
the
new
2023
request
totals
one
million
six
hundred
and
thirty
six
thousand
one
hundred
and
fifty
dollars,
which
leaves
us,
and
this
is
in
the
table
below
there,
which
leaves
us
the
remaining
balance
in
the
small
order
count,
one
of
a
hundred
and
thirty
six
thousand
one
hundred
and
forty
three
dollars
and
forty
five
cents.
Q
There
is
additional
information
in
your
table
as
well,
if
you're,
if
you're
interested
or
excuse
me
on
the
table,
but
in
the
in
the
notebook
there
is
a
Statewide
map
of
where
all
the
projects
are
located
and
individual
recommendations
for
each
project.
For
those
of
you
that
are
kind
of
new
here,
that'll
give
you
an
idea
on
where
the
projects
are
located
and
and
more
details.
If
you're
interested
in
specifics,
okay,.
Q
Okay,
sorry
yeah
it's
okay,
there.
We
are
count
two,
so
under
account.
Two
The
Laramie
County
Conservation
District
has
two
account
two
projects
for
a
total
of
forty
three
thousand
dollars:
The
Laramie
Rivers
Conservation
District
has
one
account
two
project
for
a
total
of
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
a
little
Snake
River
Conservation
District
has
seven
account
two
projects
for
a
total
of
two
hundred
and
two
thousand
dollars.
The
proposia
Conservation
District
has
one
account
two
project
for
a
total
of
thirty
thousand
dollars.
Q
The
Powell
Clarks
Fort
Conservation
District
has
one
account
two
project
for
a
total
twenty
one
thousand
one
hundred
and
twenty
five
dollars.
The
Sheridan
County
Conservation
District
has
two
account
two
projects
for
a
total
of
sixty
five
thousand.
The
Shoshone
Conservation
District
has
one
account
two
project
for
a
total
of
eighteen
thousand
four
hundred
dollars.
Q
The
South
Bighorn
Conservation
District
has
one
account
to
project
for
a
total
of
thirty
five
thousand
dollars.
The
Star
Valley
Conservation
District
has
one
account
two
project
for
a
total
of
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
and
the
Sublette
County
Conservation
District
has
one
account
two
project
for
a
total
of
ten
thousand.
Q
Two
hundred
and
fifty
dollars,
so
that
leaves
the
total
available
in
account
to
one
million
one
hundred
and
sixty
one
thousand
one,
one
hundred
and
twenty
seven
dollars
the
2023
requests
added
up
to
494
775
dollars
to
which
leaves
a
remaining
balance
in
account
to
666
352
dollars.
B
F
Yeah
I
was
trying
to
get
your
attention,
but
I
had
my
speaker
on
mute.
One
of
those
projects
in
the
rehab
was
on
a
project
and
I'm
a
permit
T
in
that
grazing
allotment
and
I
was
going
to
have
that
removed.
So
I
can
vote
on
the
bill,
but
I
will
just
for
the
record
say
that
I've
abstained
on
voting
on
all
of
the
small
water
project
bills
for
those
purposes.
B
Vote
vote
on
it
separately
next
time:
okay,
yeah,
I,
think
it'll
I
think
it
passes
for
now,
and
we
can,
if
we
have
to
do
another
vote
on
it
later,
we'll
we'll
try
to
make
that
clarification.
Okay,
we're
ready
for
Mr
Kerr!
Is
he
online
Greg
if
you're
around
I
am
there?
You
are
welcome
to
our
meeting.
K
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
members
of
Select
water
committee.
My
name
is
Greg
Kerr
I
am
the
director
of
the
office
of
water
programs
at
the
University
of
Wyoming
within
the
office
of
water
programs.
We
administer
the
water
research
program
and
from
listening
in
on
the
meeting
here,
I
understand
some
folks
may
be
unfamiliar
with
various
items
on
the
agenda
today,
I'd
like
to
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
what
the
water
research
program
is
and
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
our
process
for
water
research
program
projects
that
are
in
the
mou
item
today.
K
K
And
then
our
third
goal
is
to
Simply
take
that
information
that
we
receive
from
research
projects
and
distribute
that
by
information
dissemination
on
various
entities
throughout
the
state
and
nationally.
So
those
are
our
three
goals.
We
go
through
a
pretty
significant
process
in
order
to
select
projects
and
I
pulled
this
up.
In
order
to
let
you
know
briefly
what
that
is
in
April
of
each
year
and
so
coming
up,
we'll
start
a
new
process,
but
April.
K
We
do
solicitation
of
research
topics
and
draft
and
RFP
that
is
developed
by
the
office,
water
programs
and
the
water
research
program
advisory
committee.
That
advisory
committee
is
made
up
of
eight
various
state
and
federal
entities,
then
in
May
that
RFP
is
sent
to
the
water
development
commission
and
the
select
water
committee
for
approval.
So
they
review
it
and
to
prove
that
each
year
in
May,
in
August,
we
distribute
the
RFP
on
the
UW
campus
to
researchers.
K
In
the
water
field
in
October,
we
solicit
then
those
various
research
proposals,
those
are
due
in
October
October
November.
Then
we
have
research
proposals
that
go
through
a
peer
review
process
that
the
office
water
programs
facilitates
in
November.
We
have
research
proposals
that
are
then
reviewed
and
ranked
by
our
advisory
committee
during
a
December
meeting
of
the
water
development
commission
and
the
select
water.
Those
rankings
are
reviewed
by
them,
and
projects
are
then
approved,
selected
and
approved
from
that
ranking
list.
K
In
December,
the
Omnibus
water
planning
Bill
legislation
is
drafted
with
the
recommendation
for
projects
that
were
selected
in
December,
so
then
January
through
March,
the
planning
bill
is
acted
on
by
the
Wyoming
State
Legislature
in
March.
The
water
research
program
mou,
hopefully,
is
approved
by
you
folks.
So
that's
where
we
are
today
with
that
process.
K
This
addresses
a
Hot
Topic,
actually
in
Wyoming
and
all
over
the
country.
Right
now,
we
have
in
the
Summers
seems
to
be
an
explosion.
In
most
of
you
are
probably
aware
of
the
restrictions
on
various
water
bodies
that
are
developed.
This
particular
project
I
believe
came
about
because
of
DEQ.
The
Department
of
Health,
the
Wyoming
livestock
board
and
various
other
Cooperators
have
come
up
with
a
strategy
to
notify
the
public
of
various
toxic
levels
in
water
bodies
that
have
either
been
restricted
or
shut
down
completely,
but
they're
lackings,
more
information
in
particular.
K
A
second
important
issue,
they're
looking
at,
is
what
methods
and
what
sampling
frequency
are
needed
to
understand
the
toxin
presence.
Currently
they
don't
know
whether
to
sample.
Is
it
on
a
daily
basis?
Can
it
be
on
a
weekly
basis?
At
what
levels
do
we
have
to
increase
the
sampling
methods
in
order
to
come
up
with
information?
K
B
Are
no
questions?
I
I
I
think
we're
ready
for
a
motion
to
approve
the
member
event
memorandum
of
understanding
for
these
two
projects.
We
have
that
motion.
G
B
Okay,
Representatives
seconded
by
second
yeah
representative
Larson,
hey
you
discussion.
B
H
I
So
these
again
are
all
the
construction
projects
that
came
through
the
Omnibus
Construction
Bill
and
I
want
to
get
too
in
depth
on
the
process
that
they've
gone
through
I
already
kind
of
mentioned
that
when
we
talked
about
the
planning
projects,
but
the
construction
projects
have
come
from
planning
projects,
so
they've
been
well
vetted
and
then
they
were
considered
along
with
planning
projects
at
the
last
at
the
November
meeting
in
in
2022
and
through
the
draft
bills
and
throughout
the
Committees
in
the
legislature.
I
I
If
you
want
I
can
basically
read
the
summary
table
or
I
can
let
you
stare
at
that
for
a
second
and
see
if
there
are
any
that
you
have
particular
questions
on
or
like
I
said:
I
can
work
my
way
down
through
that
real,
quick
and
just
go
through
them
as
well.
Whatever
your
pleasure
is.
J
L
Mr
chairman,
yes
Senator
here
one
question
on
the
Goshen
irrigation
Tunnel
level.
Three
project
amendments
I,
don't
see
an
amount
there.
It's
one
of
my
missing.
I
I
49
went
to
a
67
367-33
Grant
loan
and
then
the
other
51,
which
was
the
Nebraska
share,
went
to
just
alone
and,
as
you
read
all
the
Nebraska
found,
some
funding
from
their
side
and
costs
for
design
have
gone
up
once
the
consultant
actually
had
a
better
idea
and
started
looking
into
this
and
having
discussions
with
Bureau
and
everybody
so
that
whole
2.35
million
is
now
just
being
changed
to
a
67
33
Grant
loan.
There's
no
additional
funds,
we're
just
restructuring
the
agreement.
L
I
So
Mr
chairman
I
believe
they
worked
through
with
the
funding
they
had
available
over
the
winter
into
about
30
design.
They
will
be
planning
to
do
some
field
work
this
summer
to
get
more
information
on
the
material
that
surrounds
the
actual
tunnels.
I
I
It
should
get
us
through
pre-construction
yeah,
the
funding
available
get
us
through
pre-construction.
They
won't
we'll
be
ready
for
construction.
After
that,
I've.
E
G
Mr
chairman,
thank
you.
So
you
got
a
32
million
dollar
Reservoir
expansion
on
the
list.
Could
you
go
in
a
little
more
detail
on
that
project?
The
timeline
just
where
we're
at
when
we're
going
to
spend
the
money
is
it
is
it
to
spend
32
million.
Now.
Are
we
at
that
point,
or
are
we
out
their
ways.
I
Mr
chairman
on
this
one,
the
Lubbock
Reservoir
Expansion
Project-
it
actually
went
out
to
bid
over
a
year
ago,
and
the
bids
came
in
or
I
should
say
the
bid
came
in
with
more
funding
than
we
had
and
during
the
last
session
we
asked
for
funds
into
the
sponsors
contingency
fund
for
account
three,
but
the
select
water
committee
members
at
that
time
wanted
to
take
the
project
through
the
legislative
process,
because
it
was
such
a
large
increase
in
funds
through
the
sponsor
contingency
from
the
bids.
I
So
with
that
said,
with
this
32
million
now
from
the
sponsor's
contingency
fund
to
that
project,
the
sponsor
should
be
able
to
go
back
out
to
bid
this
year
on
that
and
if
the
bids
come
in
good
and
there's
been
some
value
engineering
being
done
and
trying
to
split
the
project
up
into
different
pieces.
So
we
can
get
some
more
local
contractors
involved
as
well
potentially
to
help
with
those
bids.
Then
we
should
be
able
to
go
to
construction
I
think
this
year,
assuming
the
bids
come
in
well,
foreign.
P
I
I
There
so
I'll
start
with
the
Enterprise
one.
It's
a
district
right
down
near
the
Utah
Wyoming
border.
The
vast
majority
of
irrigated
acres
are
in
Wyoming,
there's
a
small
portion
in
in
Utah.
Okay,
that's
what
we're
talking
about
did.
P
I
So
that's
right:
okay,
the
first
phase
of
their
project
there
is,
they
divert
their
diversion,
need
to
be
upgraded
or
replaced,
and
that
was
funded
several
years
ago
as
phase
one.
And
then
the
canal
is
pretty
lengthy.
I
So
we've
broken
those
up
into
two
phases
because
just
to
give
other
sponsors
a
chance
that
funding
we're
not
putting
all
our
eggs
in
one
basket,
but
so
phase
two
of
the
project
was
the
first
portion
of
the
canal
in
the
pipe
and
then
this
third
phase
is
the
last
portion
of
that
Canal
of
the
pipe
and
they
also
have
Federal
funding
through
the
salinity
control
program.
If
I
remember
right
in
the
amount
of
it'll
be
about
43.4
percent
of
their
overall
project
cost
for
the
space
three.
P
D
P
I
Mr,
chairman
Senator
Kobe
I,
believe
it's
probably
Interstate,
because
a
portion
of
their
infrastructure
is
in
Utah
and
a
portion
of
the
infrastructure
is
in
Wyoming,
but,
like
I
said,
the
vast
majority
of
the
irrigated
acres
are
in
Wyoming,
so
it's
probably
just
the
name
they
put
together
that
describe
their
entity.
Thank
you.
B
I
So
Mr
chairman,
the
next
topic,
is
item
number
10.
E
I
That's
prioritization
of
interim
topics
with
listed
on
here,
but
I
guess.
The
last
agenda
item
on
the
water
development
agenda
is
just
pointing
out
our
next
commission
meetings
commissions
like
water
committee
meetings
and
the
next
meeting
will
be
on
May,
10th
and
11th.
We
for
the
new
members.
We
typically
will
have
a
a
workshop
to
discuss
any
items
that
we
think
need
a
little
bit
more
discussion
than
just
in
the
meeting
in
a
workshop
kind
of
the
afternoon
before
the
meeting.
So
that
would
be
the
afternoon
of
May
10th.
I
If
we
feel
like
we
need
that,
once
we
get
closer
and
no
other
agenda
items,
we
have
and
then
a
meeting
most
likely
in
the
morning
finishing
up
by
noon
on
May
11th
and
that
will
be
at
our
office
here
in
Cheyenne
or
potential
at
the
Capitol
complex.
If
we
can
find
a
room
down
there,
working
with
lso
and
then
the
other
one
I'd
like
to
point
out
so
I'm,
not
sure
the
what
your
agenda
says,
but
the
original
one
I
think
I
see,
says
May,
12th,
select
water
committee
meeting
I.
I
There
is
no
meeting
on
mate
well
and
then
in
August
we
have
a
meeting,
and
this
is
typically
a
meeting
that
we
hold
somewhere
else
in
the
State,
usually
at
the
direction
of
one
of
our
commission
members,
and
this
particular
meeting
in
August
is
going
to
be
in
the
Cody
Powell
country,
and
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
have
a
workshop
again
that
first
day
this
is
August
15th
through
the
17th
we'll
have
a
workshop
the
afternoon
of
the
15th,
then
on
the
16th,
we'll
take
the
the
commission
and
the
select
water
committee
on
a
tour
of
that
area,
showing
you
different
types
of
projects
that
the
water
development
office
has
worked
on,
and
sometimes
other
entities
projects
and
then
on
the
17th
we'll
have
a
meeting
most
likely
wrapped
up
by
noon
to
take
care
of
any
official
business.
I
I
And
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
go
any
further
than
the
August
meeting
and
I
would
ask
Senator
X
if
he
wants
to
mention
this
September
CSG
meeting.
F
Yeah
Mr
Vice
chair
and
then
director
still
those
members
of
Select
water
committee
right
now
it
doesn't
show
up
on
your
legislative
calendar,
but
I
want
you
to
get
this
down.
We
have
a
joint
meeting
with
the
joint
AG
committee
on
the
12th
of
September
in
Pinedale
and
then
on
the
13th
of
September.
We
will
have
a
joint
meeting
and
tour
with
the
Council
of
state
governments,
West
Colorado
River
committee
meeting
and
that
so
plan
on
the
12th
and
the
13th
of
September
in
Pinedale.
F
G
No
I
I
really
appreciate
Senator
Hicks.
Getting
this
together.
I
think
it's
really
important
for
the
other
basis
states
to
understand
where
their
water
comes
from
and
the
different
complexities
we
have
and
the
systems
we
have
and
how
they
differ
and
I
think
it
I
think
it'll
be
good
both
for
the
committee
to
understand
what
happens
in
those
lower
Basin
States,
particularly
and
how
water
is
used.
I
think
it'll
be
informative
for
everybody,
so
I
appreciate
Senator
Hicks,
putting
that
together.
E
Yeah,
just
for
those
that
don't
know
what
it
is,
it's
specifically
a
legislator,
legislative
groups
from
each
state
and
two
legislators
are
appointed
from
each
state
to
be
part
of
that
Forum.
So
we
can
have
discussions
on
whether
we
can
come
up
with
Solutions
and
what
identifying
what
the
problems
are
with
the
Colorado
River
and
the
chair
this
year,
their
two
co-chairs.
It
is
Senator
hips
and
assembly,
member
from
Nevada,
and
so
we're
hosting
it
this
year
in
in
Wyoming,.
F
F
And
12th
I
think
discuss
and
we'll
overlap
a
little
bit
right
that
on
the
12th
with
select
water
and
then
the
13th,
but
we'll
have
select
water
members
stay
that
day
to
meet
with
the
Colorado
River
forum
for
CSG
West.
F
B
Time,
okay,
I
guess
a
question
I
would
have
when
members
are
not
able
to
make
it
to
interim
committee
meetings,
we're
allowed
to
to
participate
virtually
again
this
year.
Aren't
we
Albert?
Do
you
know
much
about
that?.
G
Mr
chairman,
we
are
and
I'm
hopeful
that
our
library
has
a
big
room
and
and
they've
they've
been
able
to
to
do.
They've
got
all
the
gig
necessary
there
and
they've
got
the
equipment
and
everything
to
hold
a
meeting,
so
I
think
it'll
be
okay.
G
One
thing
I
would
suggest
Senator
Hicks
is
you
know
we
need
to
get
that
room
tied
down
sooner
rather
than
later
and
then
to
members
of
Select
water
and
to
all
the
water
folks
remember
to
get
your
reservations
into
hotels
earlier
rather
than
later,
because
during
the
summer
we
get,
we
can
get
high
volume
in
our
in
our
hotels
and
it
can
be
kind
of
tough.
Last
minute.
F
Yeah
and
I
think
we'll
have
what
we'll
do
is
representative
summer,
I
know
David
and
Donna.
If
you
can
go
ahead
and
get
a
block
or
rooms
reserved
I
know
the
joint
AGS
meeting
up
there
on
Monday
Tuesday
select
water
will
be
Tuesday
Wednesday.
We
would
hope
those
AG
members
that
want
to
stay
over,
but
if
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
a
block
of
rooms
reserved
now
so
do
that
for
the
11th
12th
13th,
it
would
be
very
beneficial.
B
F
Yeah
Mr
chairman
so
and
then
back
to
your
original
question,
I
think
we'll
send
our
manual
legislative
procedures
as
it
comes
to
a
remote
participation.
That's
up
to
the
discretion
of
the
chairman,
whether
they
want
to
allow
that
or
not.
There
is
some
rules
that
say
you
have
to
be.
You
know
on
screen
anyway,
but
I
would
I
would
review
that,
but
that's
really
going
to
be
up
to
your
discretion
and
chairman
steinman's.
F
As
far
as
that
participation
and
then
on
your
other
issue,
yeah
I
think
we
include
that
it's
normal
part
of
the
normal
Ag
and
what
we
may
do
is
just
ask
for
usually
on
the
scenarios
like
that.
There's
enough
savings
within
your
regular
Budget
on
these
joint
meetings
to
cover
the
cost
of
those
committee
members
for
a
third
day,
but
I
would
encourage
you
to
ask
for
at
least
one
extra
a
day
for
this
Symposium
chairman
Eckland.
I
Mr
chairman
just
circle
back
real
quick
on
Senator
Coke's
question
on
the
interstate
Canal
project,
just
west
of
McKinnon
is
where
that
irrigated
land
says.
So
just
let
me
cover
that
real,
quick,
okay.
M
Chairman
go
ahead,
whoever
sorry
Mr
chairman
David
Hopkinson
with
lso.
B
G
Is
representative
Summers,
yeah,
I
I
would
just
encourage
you
and
the
the
chairman
and
the
vice
chair.
You
guys
select
the
priority.
You
know
I,
don't
know
if
I
ever
got
it
in,
but
I
do
believe.
You
know
and
I
didn't
see
it
on
this
list,
even
though
the
last
meeting
I
mentioned
it
again
and
that
was
I
think
the
Colorado
River
and
the
issues
behind
it
need
to
be
Forefront
in
our
in
what
we
do
in
this
committee
other
than
our
the
standard
stuff.
I.
Think
that
needs
to
be
an
issue.
B
B
G
G
Obviously,
I
voted
on
a
lot
of
water
projects,
I've
been
beneficiary
of
a
lot
of
water
projects,
but
the
small
water
project
and
how
we
vet
that
before
the
commission
looks
at
it,
I
really
would
like
some
feedback
on
from
water
development
on
whether
that's
it
just
seems,
I
think
the
way
it
was
described
to
me
by
Senator
Hicks,
even
though
that
wasn't
accurate
seems
like
the
best
process,
which
is
very
similar
similar
to
what
the
you
know,
School
Capital
facilities
commission,
what
they
do
they
they
vet
projects
that
the
department
puts
out.
G
Then
this,
then
then
the
select
committee
looks
at
it.
It's
not
much
different
than
the
large
projects
with
that
from
the
wildlife
natural
resource,
trust
fund.
You
know,
there's
a
board
that
that's
those
projects
that
the
agency
brings
out
and
then
the
and
then
the
the
legislature
approves
those.
F
So
Mr
chairman
a
little
bit
on
that
and
and
I'm
just
throwing
some
food
for
thought
out
there.
So
if
we
use
the
wildlife
natural
resource
trust
fund
analogy,
you
know
those
projects
that
are
under
two
thousand
now
under
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
never
come
to
the
legislature.
Those
are
approved
by
that
board.
F
It
was
200
000.
We
just
raised
that
to
four
hundred
thousand,
so
only
the
large
projects
do
we
see
there
I,
don't
disagree
with
representative
Summers,
but
or
we
kind
of
fit
into
this
thing,
and
it's
just
food
for
thought
when
we
get
to
November
and
we
sponsor
those
water
bills.
What
we
do
is
approve
the
amount
of
money
eligible
on
those
programs
and
that
does
go
through
the
commission
through
the
Omnibus
Bill
and
then
a
recommendation
to
select
water
and
then
to
sponsor
that
legislation.
F
So
I
think
a
little
bit
similar
to
The
Wildlife
trust
fund
is
this:
is
we
don't
oversee
every
thirty
thousand
dollar
project
that
comes
through
there
or
so
I?
Don't
know
if
that
helps
add
any
food
for
thought,
but
we
we
do
have
a
comparable
process
there,
and
maybe
we
need
to
just
focus
on
you
know
the
the
total
amount
of
money
available
for
the
commission
to
then
allocate
for
these
small
water
projects
and
I
think
originally.
F
That
was
the
idea
we
didn't
want
so
so
the
idea
is,
is
that
if
you
brought
69
of
these
small
water
projects
forward
and
an
Omnibus
water
bill
that
were
debated,
I
think
that
was
my
recollection.
The
entire
conversation
you
know:
we've
had
upwards
of
90
in
one
year.
Some
of
them
are
twelve
thousand
dollars.
Did
we
really
want
the
legislature's
time
debating
60
or
90
or
80
of
these
little
projects?
F
B
Okay,
committee
and
David
getting
back
to
you,
Senator,
Steinmetz
and
I'll,
get
together
with
you
before
we
go
before
management
Council
one
prioritizing
things
did
you
have
any
other
business
for
us.